Following the science is when politicians send their goons to the pandemic managers in Germany's leading public health agency to get them to say what the politicians want them to say.
Every time another layer of the Covid onion is pulled back it is abundantly clear the magnitude of the duplicity and obfuscation foisted upon us by our overlords was off the charts. I will never again believe any recommendations coming from public health unless it can independently verified by an unbiased third party expert. In fact, my personal view is to do exactly the opposite what is recommended by the CDC, FDA, RKI, etc.
For all my adult life, every media outlet ran medical horror story exposes at least once a year, urging the populace to always get a second opinion, and that was such a widespread conviction that legislation was passed in the US requiring health insurance companies to pay for second opinions.
And then everyone got amnesia and entered Happy Ignorance Heaven on Earth where the Sacred in Scrubs were here to minister to us in their selfless wisdom.
Me, though, I stilll got all my faculties and remember them articles full well.
second opinion same as the first one if there is widespread alignment with the status quo
how does one get an honest second opinion?
how does one know who can give a second opinion?
Bestselling new book in US "Lies I Taught in Medical School" Bridely, the chronic conditions that are breaking the US GNP are because of diet and lifestyle. The author, an MD, had 4 chronic conditions and was on medication which would have continued for the rest of his life. Now off all medications and his biological age has gone down
Bought, owned and bonused solely by big pharma, hospital networks, and governments in this 'not going to end well' Jonestown Guyana type of place where money, power, control and fear meet.
I'm constantly amazed at how proficient these people are at concealing important truths. So, in some matters (like "covering their asses"), they aren't "incompetent" at all.
Why hasn't any official public health agency investigated the "embalmers' clots?" These were brought to the attention of the (alternative media) world 2 1/2 years ago.
Richard Hirschman is still trying to get the word out. His most recent "clot" photo has been viewed 3.4 million times on X. So the officials can't say they don't know about this.
What happened during COVID was just the same old corrupt bureaucratic bullshit writ at a much larger and invasive scale. It wasn't that "the pandemic" made them go nuts, it's that they applied the same processes and justification that they always do at scale and with no restraints. I think that most people are yet to grasp this truth: this is just how these politicians and their lackey organisations *are* - the difference is that during COVID they had the public scared enough, and the global coordination to let them get away with whatever they wanted.
I have never in my whole life seen anyone who attained a position of authority handle it with absolute honesty and a willingness to risk that attained status.
Like not ever.
In a mystery novel by one of my favorites-of-all-time authors, a character, ordinary, without any sort of meaningful status in the world, contacts a journalist with the plea that she look into a troubling case, and she accedes to his plea because he'd said that he wanted to "see right done." He hadn't asked for justice, which is another animal.
There's a terrible simplicity to doing the right thing, and the consequences can be terrible too. As I said yesterday in response to the pinned comment--if we want more people of courage and decency to step forward we must have the courage to see they do not lose everything by doing so. We had that awful warning from the authorities during the Canadian truckers convoy--help them at your peril.
I explained to everyone, far and wide, why taking this untested gene therapy was very dangerous and foolish, and pointed out that all the lab animals in the 2012 mRNA trials had died...few took it, but those few, including the parents of two little girls, took it, and that made all my efforts worthwhile..One of those little girls had a congenital heart problem, but is currently healthy and happy...I shudder to think what this "vaccine" might have done to her...
I had heard (from someone who read Pfizer's EUA application) that the surviving animals were destroyed as a matter of laboratory protocol, which is plausible.
They didn't say what the proportions were, nor did they explain why the surviving animals weren't kept around for studying of long-term effects of the mRNA therapy.
"dunno"..???? Thats it...?jesus weeps...and other people as stupid and lazy as yourself will keep on repeating the same trash...The animals were euthanised..they did not die from the procedure...and for the 1000th time.,...Malone(whose name you also forgot)...was not the inventor of the technology.He was the first to try and commercialise it..do you follow???(sarcasm)...In 2015, Katalin Kariko and her colleague Drew Weissmann found the solution to prevent activation of the immune response against the injected mRNA.
"..In 1969, mRNA was translated in the lab for the first time. Lockard and Lingrel, who worked together at the University of Cincinnati, Ohio, provided the first evidence of in-vitro translation of mRNA...
Lockard, R. E., and Lingrel, J. B. (1969) The synthesis of mouse hemoglobin chains in a rabbit reticulocyte cell-free system programmed with mouse reticulocyte 9S RNA. Biochemical and biophysical research communications, 37(2): 204-12.
"...By the end of the following decade, a cationic liposome mRNA delivery system, DOTMA, was described and commercialised (Malone et al., 1989)..".
Malone, R. W., Felgner, P. L., and Verma, I. M. (1989) Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 86(16): 6077-81.
Wolff, J., Malone, R., Williams, P., Chong, W., Acsadi, G., Jani, A., and Felgner, P. (1990) Direct gene transfer into mouse muscle in vivo. Science 247(4949): 1465-68.
"...In 2015, Katalin Kariko and her colleague Drew Weissmann found the solution to prevent activation of the immune response against the injected mRNA...."
Karikó, K., Buckstein, M., Ni, H., and Weissman, D. (2005) Suppression of RNA recognition by Toll-like receptors: the impact of nucleoside modification and the evolutionary origin of RNA. Immunity, 23(2): 165-75.
Sahin, U., Karikó, K., and Türeci, Ö. (2014) mRNA-based therapeutics — developing a new class of drugs.
Blame is natural human response when one does not want to take responsibility.
It goes way back. If you think Adam and Eve is folklore, think again!
Given a warning that this thing (apple) is not good for you.
Eve could have just listened. BUT she acted on a lie. The truth was there, she made a CHOICE. Next up....
Get someone else (Adam) to join you. Use whatever tactics you will but Adam listened AND ACTED.
Next up: blame the liar. Whatever you do, do not take responsibility and 'licks' for it. Next...
Adam blames God (!) for giving Adam 'that woman'.
God (in His mercy) provides a way out.
Rinse. Repeat.
People make their own decisions whether pressured or not. Life is all about standing up to the pressure of 'evil'. There is no one to blame.
My anger has melted and I choose to be merciful to those who forced, continue to force these deadly shots. They will eventually have to take responsibility. I am grateful that I was given a triple dose of discernment. This time. I pray I am given discernment for the next round they have for us (that digital prison sure looks clearer each day).
My point? We are all human, therefore, imperfect. It's not easy and I understand the anger but finding mercy and being thankful one did not succumb is very freeing.
I disagree, even as a scientist, that it is necessary to "follow a scientific rather than political" agenda in a pandemic.
Science may come up with some thoughts and scenarios, though coronatime was notable for the hysterical, scaremongering, Ferguson on down type of doom-mongering.
Deciding what to do with that information is politics. It's politics that came up with the abandonment of cost/benefit essential for any decision ("if it saves just one life"), and then compounded the error by throwing individual freedom coupled with individual responsibility overboard and using the time to re-establish authoritarianism. The rulers themselves became enthralled with a constantly self-reinforcing ever more rigid approach that took almost 3 years to collapse under the weight of its own stupidity.
Completely agree with you, it is not possible for politics to enact 'science' because 'science' does not produce actionable political agendas at all. The whole discussion around this is just childish and naive.
But when Government mandates large and harmful change(s) in the public's way of life, there must be a solid rationale of some sort behind those changes...There was, in fact, none for the extreme covid measures...so the Government pressured scientists and medical bureaucrats to provide such justification, even when it contravened existing medical research...and in the US, at least, allowed Pharma to hand out huge financial incentives to doctors and administrators to push an untested gene therapy "vaccine."
And this is one reason that the (good) economists have a point when they say their input should have been heard in order to weigh the benefit/cost of lockdowns, school closures etc.
At least the ones who weren't regime parrots predicted the fallout of 'lockdown nation' quite accurately. Most of them write for https://mises.org.
On the other hand their complaint rests on the assumption that this wasn't a long-planned, malice aforethought, bivalent biological weapon attack on the compliant demographic.
Everything we now see, from the Covid response to international affairs, is based on a centralized dependence model. As Europeans we have forgotten our great strength was decentralization in all things.
America broke away from the Mother Country when this was in vogue and also difficult to police, so it is part of its founding DNA. Decentralization, independence, autonomy. But these are also the hallmarks of many European states, including regions within modern countries.
Most of our woes are because of the centralization of life. We are increasingly ruled by ever more distant leaders.
The Covid response was the bureaucratic element of the controllers asserting itself. The antidote is decentralize everything. Let them rot because we cannot fix them.
One large contributing factor is money. The centralization of money creation by central banks gives governments enormous power. Take that away and government cannot exert nearly as much influence. Imagine if the Dollar or Euro become worthless overnight and no one would accept the currency. What would the government do? How would they pay for all the useless bureaucrats, the welfare recipients, the corporate subsidies? How would they fight the foreign wars or buy Chinese exports? If everything went back to gold or barter, no one would be willing to pay for the type of government that today is financed with money printing and debt.
P.S. Kudos on your guest spot on John Carter's blog - great subject!
Totally agree, hence their desperation for CBDCs. I suspect they are now too inept to create or impose them. And pretty soon the Dollar will probably lose its value anyway.
And thanks for reading the piece on JCs site. It was a crazy idea, but that's what JC likes.
Great comment, well-founded upon the historical record, the events surrounding the Reformation in the 16th century an excellent comparable period in many ways.
Lots of examples of dissidents being chased from one little duchy to find safety elsewhere and bringing ideas, commerce, banking and culture with them. A kind of cultural free market of tiny competing states. That's also what saved a lot of Jews.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to, then the point still stands even if you believe the people I was referring to deserved to be chased. The overarching point being one about decentralization. Today's hated group is more easily hunted by a centralized state than a series of decentralized ones.
Whether it's in Germany, China, Russia, England, Europe, Finland, New Zealand, South America, Canada, Australia or United States Of America, the political class and Medical practitioners have lied their collective asses off since March of 2020 regarding COVID-19.
Look around the world today and the psychological & economic damage done can't be denied. Why did these corrupt bastards implement unnecessary protocols/mandates upon their citizens ?
To implement "their global vision of a compliance" upon the people.
Its abhorrent what they have done and must be exposed.
"Why did these corrupt bastards implement unnecessary protocols/mandates upon their citizens ?"
IF IT SAVES ONLY ONE LIFE ARRGGHHH!
The modern West is not ruled by any sort of competent leadership class who can process info, think clearly, attempt a decision, weigh its results, accept responsibility etc...
We instead have a class of assistant bank managers of the global corporate state, whose thoughts/agenda are provided by the media and who live every second of their lives in terror of conjuring up a horde of Twitter Furies who will devour them and their careers.
I live in Cali but have family in Florida: Here we had a stringent and punitive Covid regime where they closed beaches, mountain trails, and even filled up skate bowls with mountains of sand—which were applauded despite how stupid, malevolent and useless all this was.
In Florida, when Gov DeSantis actually used available info to make a wise decision to NOT close his beaches, the media crucified him and called him DeathSantis, the mass murderer of your grandparents.
Now he's a popular governor who'd made it part of his persona to fight the MSM, but for your average apparatchik throughout the West, the safest bet was being as punitive and pants-shitting as possible, as the other option was waking up in a cold sweat to see if you'd become today's Emmanuel Goldstein du jour, sentenced to social death.
We are ruled first by the hive mind of social media, then by the media plankton who feed off the ugliest narratives they can repackage and sell—with any actual intelligence or social responsibility barely in the picture.
The absurdity of these “ control measures” was so obvious. I am banned by my family of ranting any more but still the tyranny and corruption boils my pi*s. I hope I live to see prosecution of these tin pot greedy tyrants like the good Dr F.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anyone to be held responsible.
Any policy that has total elite buy-in—from just about every mainstream politician, journalist and public figure—also comes with a Get Out of Jail Free card.
You can't expect them to hold each other accountable for the same crimes they all supported. Covidmania is already being buried and forgotten.
The damage of the measures they imposed as assessed in terms of drug and alchol abuse, suicides, spouse or family abuse, all vastly exceeded the damage caused by C-19.
Why, you ask? This was about power. Implementing all this required the imposing of a "perfect" socialism in which the government controlled everything and personal and property rights were completely suppressed. Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler would have recognized the social control being imposed.
Agreed. I do not pretend that my list was exhaustive.
What was also a factor was the way that governments found no difficulty in suspending whatever legal or constitutional rights may have been inconvenient for them in ramming home the measures they wanted to enact.
Well, thanks to Aya and to the Professor Eugyppius, Germany knows much more about what was going on. The UK has a pompous wing bag of a judge (Hallett) spending at least £93 million until 2027, with one question - did the UK Government act quickly enough in March 2020.
Thanks to Aya and others Germany at least has a record of what went on released to the public.
Naked Capitalism had a long post about these released documents today. I managed to read it before they took it down. Some commenters asked about it, why was it taken down? No answer, but I tried to reply with links to your article from yesterday as I was just then reading it and got banned. Then I saw the part of yesterdays article about masks and thought... yup...NC and its readers are quite sure they are the smartest people in the room and they are the hardest of hard core mask cult believers. The narrative MUST be protected.
I stopped reading NC very early in the Scamdemic, because they seemed to swallow the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Sad to hear that little if anything has changed there.
Criminals, all of them...How many kids have died, or had their lives wrecked by this Government and scientists who value their salaries and reputations over human life? That needs to be brought out into the open....
Originally, ideology meant "science of ideas"; philosophy of the mind based on information derived from the senses, and was the opposite of metaphysics.
The meaning it has today, as any political doctrine for interpreting the world, is barely a century old.
Please eugyppius- this is a serious question: what is the “political agenda” that you attribute to health ministry officials that caused them to exert so much pressure onRKI scientists to ignore the actual science and endorse the “Science” of lockdown-until-vaccine - which was so terribly devastating to citizens and the economy?
Is it the same political agenda that caused the exact same chain of events in the US, UK and pretty much every other allied country ?
This is a crucial question that I have never heard you or anyone else who claims “it was all politics “ answer.
This is something that the British Health Secretary Matt Hanckock's WhatsApp leaks from a while ago speak to. We haven't had equivalent high-level political leaks in Germany, so it's hard to say to what extent the same dynamics applied here, but I suspect they did. Anyway, the general picture is this:
1) A small group of internationally networked 'pandemicists' (Christian Drosten, Neil Ferguson, etc.) are persuaded that locking down is the way to go, especially after the Italian lockdown. They sell lockdowns to the politicians, who then have to impose them on the public health establishment (who had never planned on lockdowns previously). They also have to sell them to their respective citizenries.
2) They do the latter primarily by massively increasing testing and pulling out all the stops to terrorise people about a virus. This then creates political demand for lockdowns, and a kind of feedback loop takes over. To convince people to comply with measures, you have to convince them that Covid is superscary, and popular demand for more measures just grows.
3) The politicians at this point have powerful reasons to force their respective public health apparatuses to churn out nothing but lockdown-justifying data and lockdown-justifying analyses, even when these aren't warranted. As they find themselves locked into policies that are destroying the economy and society, they latch onto the vaccines as an escape. Matt Hancock's advisers, for example, emphasised to him that his political future depended upon "owning the exit" by making himself the face of mass vaccination.
4) The vaccines don't do much about Covid at all and so the politicians end up blaming the unvaccinated instead.
I am not sure this captures the complete picture, given that the security/anti-terrorism/intelligence services dominated (and were in charge of) the C-19 response (as admirably analysed by ms Lerman cs). This was most likely based on the intelligence concerning the gain-of-function work in China, the Wuhan lab leak and the need to cover the NIH/intelligence community's tracks in sponsoring the Chinese fiasco. So the politicians were informed by their intelligence/security services about the true (political/terrorism) risk of C-19, and they then applied pressure on the public health authorities to fall in line with their delusional response. It just won't do to have a 4 star general on TV telling the citizens what to do, you need someone in a labcoat. However, those labcoat folks have difficulty justifying the delusional responses concocted by the intelligence/security services and hence loose face all the time they try to defend lunatic measures dreamt up by power hungry crazies. This explains the flopping by Fauci and others.
I have posted about this before. Some national security (and perhaps intelligence services) involvement has been demonstrated, perhaps, for the United States, but the evidence is limited and vastly outweighed by oceans of documentation for the civilian nature of the response. Often there is a kind of one-drop rule that prevails in this theories – find an intelligence agent somewhere, and suddenly the whole thing is an intelligence operation; find hundreds of civilian bureaucrats and scientists, that doesn't matter quite as much.
That's because the intelligence people are better at secrecy (their work is legally shrouded by the national security incense). In NL it is, however, beyond doubt that the NCTV (National Coordinator for Terrorism and Security; a function held by the current PM BTW) called the shots even in cabinet; his remit included bio-terrorism obviously. In view of the huge German involvement in the Wuhan bio-security experiments, it would be surprising if the same didn't apply there (i.e. the pandemic was potentially caused by German state sanctioned bio-experimentation in China); the experiment was oriented towards (safeguarding against) bio-terrorism and the leak could be seen as an act of bio-terrorism. Given this fact pattern, I wouldn't expect the politicians would allow the response to be dictated by the health authorities, but rather by the institutions to blame for the fiasco.
I can't speak to the NL, but there is an intellectual problem here.
What role is there for intelligence services to play in lockdowns and mass vaccination? We know lockdowns came to the west via the joint WHO-China mission at the end of February, so they didn't originate with intelligence agencies. We know the Italian lockdowns were instrumental in convincing other European countries to lock down. The origins of the Italian lockdown are still partially obscure, but all trails point to Health Ministry actors and modelling projects. Then, we know that Neil Ferguson's 16 March model was crucial for almost all Western lockdowns beyond Italy. Did intelligence services in some countries play a role in establishing lockdowns? They may well have, the precise dynamics will vary from country to country, but I can't see space in the narrative for anything but a secondary role, in some nations.
This makes a lot of sense. In Germany, for example, domestic intelligence is under the control of the Interior Ministry. They don't have any authority to dictate domestic policy, they are rather dictated at. The same goes for the health security goons in the RKI and elsewhere – all under the authority of the Health Ministry.
Of course, it makes total sense to me that the intelligence and security services were seized by lockdown feature, as the rest of the bureaucracy were.
I would also add that intelligence services plans for a bioattack are available to us. the Johns Hopkins CHS was paid to wargame a few different such attacks. these plans never call for lockdowns, or really anything much beyond accelerated vaccine development.
The same is true for all the 5 eye countries and Mr. Graff helpfully adds NL as well (thank you!)
The explanation that all politicians in all countries were somehow convinced they had to lockdown by Italy - despite all the top epidemiologists, virologists etc. telling them this was wrong (and being brutally censored and silenced) - is more far fetched than the "conspiracy" explanation. It also gets the timeline backwards and misses the point of the lockdown-until-vaccine plan.
The Italian "outbreak" started with a media blitz based on nothing and then a huge increase in testing and hospitalizations based on that testing.
It was part of the larger global plan to lock everything down in anticipation of the mRNA vaccines, on which work started in January 2020.
The military/IC involvement was INTERNATIONAL and run through biodefense agreements, the global censorship and propaganda industrial complex which has large military/intelligence involvement, and "public-private" partnerships involving agencies like DARPA, the institutions/agencies people like Drosten are in charge of, and the global "philanthropic" orgs that pretty much ran the whole thing: Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust, with their sub-orgs CEPI and GAVI, and the WHO over which they exercise enormous leverage.
The overarching goal of the anti-scientific fear mongering and lockdowns was to prep the world for the arrival of the completely unsafe and ineffective mRNA vaccines - by illegally rushing them through Emergency Use Authorization that applies only to emergencies caused by CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear) attacks.
This EUA was the basis for all emergency authorizations of all covid vaccines everywhere - thanks to various agreements and memorandi of understanding that conveniently bypass each country's pharma regulating process.
The G3P structures (global public private partnerships) have been sucking up increasing amounts of wealth and power, and Covid was the most glaring manifestation of how how that power can be wielded
This is not a "conspiracy theory" about a bunch of spies or power mongering politicians or businessmen sitting around in dark rooms plotting to take over the world. This is the result of what CJ Hopkins (whose plight I'm sure you're aware of) calls "GloboCap"
Here's as good a quote as any by Hopkins, to summarize what the Covid "conspiracy" and globalist "conspiracy" theories are actually based on:
"I’m not suggesting there’s a bunch of capitalists sitting around in a room somewhere in their shiny black top hats planning all of this. I’m talking about systemic development, which is a little more complex than that, and much more difficult to intelligently discuss because we’re used to perceiving historico-political events in the context of competing nation states, rather than competing ideological systems … or rather, non-competing ideological systems, for capitalism has no competition. What it has, instead, is a variety of insurgencies, the faith-based Islamic fundamentalist insurgency and the neo-nationalist insurgency chief among them. There will certainly be others throughout the near future as global capitalism consolidates control and restructures society according to its values."
The plandemic was just a primary, globally well coordinated rehearsal of top-down power-play to see how far governments can go unimpeded when
- deleting people's basic rights like right of movement, congregation, schooling, medical care,
- widely imposing tracking-apps on mobile-phones,
- test populace's resilience or rejection to utterly undemocratic rules as well as
- widely applying state-psyops, fear-porn and misinformation (gullibility-test)
before a general backlash manifests in the slowly awakening populace.
Simple as that and brace yourself because in the last one people failed "the test" miserably, it still being not very clear if they learned enough to resist the next one without losing their dignity for good ...
Power acquisition is the primary political agenda and I am speaking of the base level. Globalization is merely the inevitable result of unfettered personal ambition and greed for power in those lacking any other desires or moral controls. The average person will trade their power ambitions for the emotional and physical benefits of family. Psychopaths lack the temptation of those alternate goals. The individual craves power. This is achieved through more and more control of others. Combine with others with similar ambitions and eventually you have a control grid run by those psychopaths. The political agenda is an inevitable end result of that personal character flaw.
I say it is flaw because it does not benefit those with it in any really way. No one in the upper hierarchy live happier, more satisfied, or secured lives than those below them. Some may live longer, but a miserable existence is not improved by the number of days it is allowed to continue. Or to say another way, A life is not measured in years, but by the deeds within.
i'm on another continent. i walk around, look at the people. they are clueless. 90% are absolutely clueless. there could be new nuremberg trails and they'd continue to be absolutely clueless. and even if they'd hear about those trials they'd say "weird germans. there absolutely was a dangerous pandemic. what should we have done?".
Every time another layer of the Covid onion is pulled back it is abundantly clear the magnitude of the duplicity and obfuscation foisted upon us by our overlords was off the charts. I will never again believe any recommendations coming from public health unless it can independently verified by an unbiased third party expert. In fact, my personal view is to do exactly the opposite what is recommended by the CDC, FDA, RKI, etc.
For all my adult life, every media outlet ran medical horror story exposes at least once a year, urging the populace to always get a second opinion, and that was such a widespread conviction that legislation was passed in the US requiring health insurance companies to pay for second opinions.
And then everyone got amnesia and entered Happy Ignorance Heaven on Earth where the Sacred in Scrubs were here to minister to us in their selfless wisdom.
Me, though, I stilll got all my faculties and remember them articles full well.
second opinion same as the first one if there is widespread alignment with the status quo
how does one get an honest second opinion?
how does one know who can give a second opinion?
Bestselling new book in US "Lies I Taught in Medical School" Bridely, the chronic conditions that are breaking the US GNP are because of diet and lifestyle. The author, an MD, had 4 chronic conditions and was on medication which would have continued for the rest of his life. Now off all medications and his biological age has gone down
I saved myself a lot of money and brain-waste by never going to medical school, didn't I?
Anyway that was not the point of my comment, was it?
The rejoinder still hit the mark.
It missed it entirely.
Broadly the medical profession have regressed to mere superstition peddlers. That is a great tragedy for those medics who were and are honest.
Bought, owned and bonused solely by big pharma, hospital networks, and governments in this 'not going to end well' Jonestown Guyana type of place where money, power, control and fear meet.
Perhaps they need to hear Dumah's message to Mr. Jim Jones towards the end of the Death Tape. Sadly, he spoke in reverse. "Here's the door" (to hell).
The ones who were honest have been de-licensed in many instances.
Spot on. However, these people are medical professionals to their core, and have remained so. God bless them.
I'm constantly amazed at how proficient these people are at concealing important truths. So, in some matters (like "covering their asses"), they aren't "incompetent" at all.
Why hasn't any official public health agency investigated the "embalmers' clots?" These were brought to the attention of the (alternative media) world 2 1/2 years ago.
Richard Hirschman is still trying to get the word out. His most recent "clot" photo has been viewed 3.4 million times on X. So the officials can't say they don't know about this.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/richard-hirschman-keeps-finding-terrifying
It's amazing to me that you can't even find "anti-disinformation" debunkings of those clot videos
Great point. That is amazing.
What happened during COVID was just the same old corrupt bureaucratic bullshit writ at a much larger and invasive scale. It wasn't that "the pandemic" made them go nuts, it's that they applied the same processes and justification that they always do at scale and with no restraints. I think that most people are yet to grasp this truth: this is just how these politicians and their lackey organisations *are* - the difference is that during COVID they had the public scared enough, and the global coordination to let them get away with whatever they wanted.
I agree, but then it was all for our own safety.............................
My criteria to select a dr:
1) that when i look at him I think, gee i want to look like kim
2) that the conversation is about what lifestyle changes i need to make to resolve whatever condition is afflicting me
3) And most importantly, that he didn't vax himself.
Sounds impossible, but i have successfully replaced all the dr that i used before the pandemic and my health is better than ever.
I have never in my whole life seen anyone who attained a position of authority handle it with absolute honesty and a willingness to risk that attained status.
Like not ever.
In a mystery novel by one of my favorites-of-all-time authors, a character, ordinary, without any sort of meaningful status in the world, contacts a journalist with the plea that she look into a troubling case, and she accedes to his plea because he'd said that he wanted to "see right done." He hadn't asked for justice, which is another animal.
There's a terrible simplicity to doing the right thing, and the consequences can be terrible too. As I said yesterday in response to the pinned comment--if we want more people of courage and decency to step forward we must have the courage to see they do not lose everything by doing so. We had that awful warning from the authorities during the Canadian truckers convoy--help them at your peril.
Is we gonna lie down and take that?
I explained to everyone, far and wide, why taking this untested gene therapy was very dangerous and foolish, and pointed out that all the lab animals in the 2012 mRNA trials had died...few took it, but those few, including the parents of two little girls, took it, and that made all my efforts worthwhile..One of those little girls had a congenital heart problem, but is currently healthy and happy...I shudder to think what this "vaccine" might have done to her...
"..out that all the lab animals in the 2012 mRNA trials had died..."
Do you mean terminated early..or died due to the vaxx etc.
Exactly which paper/study shows this?
I had heard (from someone who read Pfizer's EUA application) that the surviving animals were destroyed as a matter of laboratory protocol, which is plausible.
They didn't say what the proportions were, nor did they explain why the surviving animals weren't kept around for studying of long-term effects of the mRNA therapy.
Dunno, but the inventor of mRNA recalled that as a reason he started to doubt his invention...
"dunno"..???? Thats it...?jesus weeps...and other people as stupid and lazy as yourself will keep on repeating the same trash...The animals were euthanised..they did not die from the procedure...and for the 1000th time.,...Malone(whose name you also forgot)...was not the inventor of the technology.He was the first to try and commercialise it..do you follow???(sarcasm)...In 2015, Katalin Kariko and her colleague Drew Weissmann found the solution to prevent activation of the immune response against the injected mRNA.
"..In 1969, mRNA was translated in the lab for the first time. Lockard and Lingrel, who worked together at the University of Cincinnati, Ohio, provided the first evidence of in-vitro translation of mRNA...
Lockard, R. E., and Lingrel, J. B. (1969) The synthesis of mouse hemoglobin chains in a rabbit reticulocyte cell-free system programmed with mouse reticulocyte 9S RNA. Biochemical and biophysical research communications, 37(2): 204-12.
"...By the end of the following decade, a cationic liposome mRNA delivery system, DOTMA, was described and commercialised (Malone et al., 1989)..".
Malone, R. W., Felgner, P. L., and Verma, I. M. (1989) Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 86(16): 6077-81.
Wolff, J., Malone, R., Williams, P., Chong, W., Acsadi, G., Jani, A., and Felgner, P. (1990) Direct gene transfer into mouse muscle in vivo. Science 247(4949): 1465-68.
"...In 2015, Katalin Kariko and her colleague Drew Weissmann found the solution to prevent activation of the immune response against the injected mRNA...."
Karikó, K., Buckstein, M., Ni, H., and Weissman, D. (2005) Suppression of RNA recognition by Toll-like receptors: the impact of nucleoside modification and the evolutionary origin of RNA. Immunity, 23(2): 165-75.
Sahin, U., Karikó, K., and Türeci, Ö. (2014) mRNA-based therapeutics — developing a new class of drugs.
Very scholarly! Yes, I was referring to Malone, and it's news to me that they were euthanized, but it was still good agitprop even if that's true....
Well, you know what they say. "He who saves one life..."
You did good. I'm sure the universe has noticed.
> "Is we gonna lie down and take that?"
Looks like it. *sigh*
Well, don't blame them guys for our failures.
I'm not. It's my failure too.
Oh, I blame them 100%...they intentionally did the wrong thing, so they are stuck with the consequences....
Blame is natural human response when one does not want to take responsibility.
It goes way back. If you think Adam and Eve is folklore, think again!
Given a warning that this thing (apple) is not good for you.
Eve could have just listened. BUT she acted on a lie. The truth was there, she made a CHOICE. Next up....
Get someone else (Adam) to join you. Use whatever tactics you will but Adam listened AND ACTED.
Next up: blame the liar. Whatever you do, do not take responsibility and 'licks' for it. Next...
Adam blames God (!) for giving Adam 'that woman'.
God (in His mercy) provides a way out.
Rinse. Repeat.
People make their own decisions whether pressured or not. Life is all about standing up to the pressure of 'evil'. There is no one to blame.
My anger has melted and I choose to be merciful to those who forced, continue to force these deadly shots. They will eventually have to take responsibility. I am grateful that I was given a triple dose of discernment. This time. I pray I am given discernment for the next round they have for us (that digital prison sure looks clearer each day).
My point? We are all human, therefore, imperfect. It's not easy and I understand the anger but finding mercy and being thankful one did not succumb is very freeing.
"...*our* failures"
Lord Acton would no doubt agree with your first sentence.
I disagree, even as a scientist, that it is necessary to "follow a scientific rather than political" agenda in a pandemic.
Science may come up with some thoughts and scenarios, though coronatime was notable for the hysterical, scaremongering, Ferguson on down type of doom-mongering.
Deciding what to do with that information is politics. It's politics that came up with the abandonment of cost/benefit essential for any decision ("if it saves just one life"), and then compounded the error by throwing individual freedom coupled with individual responsibility overboard and using the time to re-establish authoritarianism. The rulers themselves became enthralled with a constantly self-reinforcing ever more rigid approach that took almost 3 years to collapse under the weight of its own stupidity.
Completely agree with you, it is not possible for politics to enact 'science' because 'science' does not produce actionable political agendas at all. The whole discussion around this is just childish and naive.
But when Government mandates large and harmful change(s) in the public's way of life, there must be a solid rationale of some sort behind those changes...There was, in fact, none for the extreme covid measures...so the Government pressured scientists and medical bureaucrats to provide such justification, even when it contravened existing medical research...and in the US, at least, allowed Pharma to hand out huge financial incentives to doctors and administrators to push an untested gene therapy "vaccine."
And this is one reason that the (good) economists have a point when they say their input should have been heard in order to weigh the benefit/cost of lockdowns, school closures etc.
At least the ones who weren't regime parrots predicted the fallout of 'lockdown nation' quite accurately. Most of them write for https://mises.org.
On the other hand their complaint rests on the assumption that this wasn't a long-planned, malice aforethought, bivalent biological weapon attack on the compliant demographic.
Uh f u C X csh
Everything we now see, from the Covid response to international affairs, is based on a centralized dependence model. As Europeans we have forgotten our great strength was decentralization in all things.
America broke away from the Mother Country when this was in vogue and also difficult to police, so it is part of its founding DNA. Decentralization, independence, autonomy. But these are also the hallmarks of many European states, including regions within modern countries.
Most of our woes are because of the centralization of life. We are increasingly ruled by ever more distant leaders.
The Covid response was the bureaucratic element of the controllers asserting itself. The antidote is decentralize everything. Let them rot because we cannot fix them.
One large contributing factor is money. The centralization of money creation by central banks gives governments enormous power. Take that away and government cannot exert nearly as much influence. Imagine if the Dollar or Euro become worthless overnight and no one would accept the currency. What would the government do? How would they pay for all the useless bureaucrats, the welfare recipients, the corporate subsidies? How would they fight the foreign wars or buy Chinese exports? If everything went back to gold or barter, no one would be willing to pay for the type of government that today is financed with money printing and debt.
P.S. Kudos on your guest spot on John Carter's blog - great subject!
Once the money is fake, the rest of the economy is doomed to follow.....
Yes, because politicians Just. Can't. Help. Themselves!
Totally agree, hence their desperation for CBDCs. I suspect they are now too inept to create or impose them. And pretty soon the Dollar will probably lose its value anyway.
And thanks for reading the piece on JCs site. It was a crazy idea, but that's what JC likes.
Great comment, well-founded upon the historical record, the events surrounding the Reformation in the 16th century an excellent comparable period in many ways.
Lots of examples of dissidents being chased from one little duchy to find safety elsewhere and bringing ideas, commerce, banking and culture with them. A kind of cultural free market of tiny competing states. That's also what saved a lot of Jews.
And i almost thought you were insightful for a minute there.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to, then the point still stands even if you believe the people I was referring to deserved to be chased. The overarching point being one about decentralization. Today's hated group is more easily hunted by a centralized state than a series of decentralized ones.
Perhaps that clarifies.
Whether it's in Germany, China, Russia, England, Europe, Finland, New Zealand, South America, Canada, Australia or United States Of America, the political class and Medical practitioners have lied their collective asses off since March of 2020 regarding COVID-19.
Look around the world today and the psychological & economic damage done can't be denied. Why did these corrupt bastards implement unnecessary protocols/mandates upon their citizens ?
To implement "their global vision of a compliance" upon the people.
Its abhorrent what they have done and must be exposed.
"Why did these corrupt bastards implement unnecessary protocols/mandates upon their citizens ?"
IF IT SAVES ONLY ONE LIFE ARRGGHHH!
The modern West is not ruled by any sort of competent leadership class who can process info, think clearly, attempt a decision, weigh its results, accept responsibility etc...
We instead have a class of assistant bank managers of the global corporate state, whose thoughts/agenda are provided by the media and who live every second of their lives in terror of conjuring up a horde of Twitter Furies who will devour them and their careers.
I live in Cali but have family in Florida: Here we had a stringent and punitive Covid regime where they closed beaches, mountain trails, and even filled up skate bowls with mountains of sand—which were applauded despite how stupid, malevolent and useless all this was.
In Florida, when Gov DeSantis actually used available info to make a wise decision to NOT close his beaches, the media crucified him and called him DeathSantis, the mass murderer of your grandparents.
Now he's a popular governor who'd made it part of his persona to fight the MSM, but for your average apparatchik throughout the West, the safest bet was being as punitive and pants-shitting as possible, as the other option was waking up in a cold sweat to see if you'd become today's Emmanuel Goldstein du jour, sentenced to social death.
We are ruled first by the hive mind of social media, then by the media plankton who feed off the ugliest narratives they can repackage and sell—with any actual intelligence or social responsibility barely in the picture.
Excellent post. I live in the North of England.
The absurdity of these “ control measures” was so obvious. I am banned by my family of ranting any more but still the tyranny and corruption boils my pi*s. I hope I live to see prosecution of these tin pot greedy tyrants like the good Dr F.
Thanks!
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anyone to be held responsible.
Any policy that has total elite buy-in—from just about every mainstream politician, journalist and public figure—also comes with a Get Out of Jail Free card.
You can't expect them to hold each other accountable for the same crimes they all supported. Covidmania is already being buried and forgotten.
The damage of the measures they imposed as assessed in terms of drug and alchol abuse, suicides, spouse or family abuse, all vastly exceeded the damage caused by C-19.
Why, you ask? This was about power. Implementing all this required the imposing of a "perfect" socialism in which the government controlled everything and personal and property rights were completely suppressed. Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler would have recognized the social control being imposed.
It's the old create a problem/solve the problem routine. They call it "How to Take Control and Look Like a Hero at the Same Time".
Not to mention the lost years of schooling and social isolation for many students at a critical time of life...That may be the biggest loss of all....
Agreed. I do not pretend that my list was exhaustive.
What was also a factor was the way that governments found no difficulty in suspending whatever legal or constitutional rights may have been inconvenient for them in ramming home the measures they wanted to enact.
Have you considered enrolling in a social studies class to see what passes for schooling these days?
They have lied, and in many cases, reaped large financial awards for those lies...
They've been exposed many times before.
The only way we can recover trust in the system is to see the perpetrators hanged. Seriously.
https://patrick.net/post/1377537/2022-11-03-everyone-who-imposed-toxxine-mandates
Even merely publicly suggesting hanging Fauci, Collins, Bourla, Bancel, et al helps to protect us all.
We should each do our part and publicly call for these hangings. To fail to call for justice is to acquiesce to the worst crime against humanity ever.
'He is almost certainly engaged in officially-sanctioned damage control.'
Sigh. Just when you think there might be some good in the world…
Well, thanks to Aya and to the Professor Eugyppius, Germany knows much more about what was going on. The UK has a pompous wing bag of a judge (Hallett) spending at least £93 million until 2027, with one question - did the UK Government act quickly enough in March 2020.
Thanks to Aya and others Germany at least has a record of what went on released to the public.
We have not got that far.
The same criminals are running 'Net Zero'.
They know even less about energy.
They know a lot about money though, and how best to get it, avoiding 'brown envelopes' ...
I wonder if they could offer 'Master Classes' to football scouts?
Naked Capitalism had a long post about these released documents today. I managed to read it before they took it down. Some commenters asked about it, why was it taken down? No answer, but I tried to reply with links to your article from yesterday as I was just then reading it and got banned. Then I saw the part of yesterdays article about masks and thought... yup...NC and its readers are quite sure they are the smartest people in the room and they are the hardest of hard core mask cult believers. The narrative MUST be protected.
Readers of NC aren't useless eaters. Lenin called them useful. Useful... something...
I stopped reading NC very early in the Scamdemic, because they seemed to swallow the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Sad to hear that little if anything has changed there.
When tyrants want to create their own facts and reality, even Science isn't safe.
Criminals, all of them...How many kids have died, or had their lives wrecked by this Government and scientists who value their salaries and reputations over human life? That needs to be brought out into the open....
Science does not conform to ideology.
Why is that so hard to accept for politicians?
I've worked in scientific instutions and cannot confirm.
Making the distinction with 'true science' would be closer to the mark.
Secondly, ideology ought to describe a science ("-ology"), namely: "Which set of ideas conforms to reality?"
Interesting that it's become a slur of sorts, since the dominant ones, don't.
Originally, ideology meant "science of ideas"; philosophy of the mind based on information derived from the senses, and was the opposite of metaphysics.
The meaning it has today, as any political doctrine for interpreting the world, is barely a century old.
Why ??? ... Simple: they're psychopathic narcissists !!!
The entire universe revolves around them ...
At least that's what they think.
Please eugyppius- this is a serious question: what is the “political agenda” that you attribute to health ministry officials that caused them to exert so much pressure onRKI scientists to ignore the actual science and endorse the “Science” of lockdown-until-vaccine - which was so terribly devastating to citizens and the economy?
Is it the same political agenda that caused the exact same chain of events in the US, UK and pretty much every other allied country ?
This is a crucial question that I have never heard you or anyone else who claims “it was all politics “ answer.
Thank you!!!
This is something that the British Health Secretary Matt Hanckock's WhatsApp leaks from a while ago speak to. We haven't had equivalent high-level political leaks in Germany, so it's hard to say to what extent the same dynamics applied here, but I suspect they did. Anyway, the general picture is this:
1) A small group of internationally networked 'pandemicists' (Christian Drosten, Neil Ferguson, etc.) are persuaded that locking down is the way to go, especially after the Italian lockdown. They sell lockdowns to the politicians, who then have to impose them on the public health establishment (who had never planned on lockdowns previously). They also have to sell them to their respective citizenries.
2) They do the latter primarily by massively increasing testing and pulling out all the stops to terrorise people about a virus. This then creates political demand for lockdowns, and a kind of feedback loop takes over. To convince people to comply with measures, you have to convince them that Covid is superscary, and popular demand for more measures just grows.
3) The politicians at this point have powerful reasons to force their respective public health apparatuses to churn out nothing but lockdown-justifying data and lockdown-justifying analyses, even when these aren't warranted. As they find themselves locked into policies that are destroying the economy and society, they latch onto the vaccines as an escape. Matt Hancock's advisers, for example, emphasised to him that his political future depended upon "owning the exit" by making himself the face of mass vaccination.
4) The vaccines don't do much about Covid at all and so the politicians end up blaming the unvaccinated instead.
I am not sure this captures the complete picture, given that the security/anti-terrorism/intelligence services dominated (and were in charge of) the C-19 response (as admirably analysed by ms Lerman cs). This was most likely based on the intelligence concerning the gain-of-function work in China, the Wuhan lab leak and the need to cover the NIH/intelligence community's tracks in sponsoring the Chinese fiasco. So the politicians were informed by their intelligence/security services about the true (political/terrorism) risk of C-19, and they then applied pressure on the public health authorities to fall in line with their delusional response. It just won't do to have a 4 star general on TV telling the citizens what to do, you need someone in a labcoat. However, those labcoat folks have difficulty justifying the delusional responses concocted by the intelligence/security services and hence loose face all the time they try to defend lunatic measures dreamt up by power hungry crazies. This explains the flopping by Fauci and others.
I have posted about this before. Some national security (and perhaps intelligence services) involvement has been demonstrated, perhaps, for the United States, but the evidence is limited and vastly outweighed by oceans of documentation for the civilian nature of the response. Often there is a kind of one-drop rule that prevails in this theories – find an intelligence agent somewhere, and suddenly the whole thing is an intelligence operation; find hundreds of civilian bureaucrats and scientists, that doesn't matter quite as much.
That's because the intelligence people are better at secrecy (their work is legally shrouded by the national security incense). In NL it is, however, beyond doubt that the NCTV (National Coordinator for Terrorism and Security; a function held by the current PM BTW) called the shots even in cabinet; his remit included bio-terrorism obviously. In view of the huge German involvement in the Wuhan bio-security experiments, it would be surprising if the same didn't apply there (i.e. the pandemic was potentially caused by German state sanctioned bio-experimentation in China); the experiment was oriented towards (safeguarding against) bio-terrorism and the leak could be seen as an act of bio-terrorism. Given this fact pattern, I wouldn't expect the politicians would allow the response to be dictated by the health authorities, but rather by the institutions to blame for the fiasco.
I can't speak to the NL, but there is an intellectual problem here.
What role is there for intelligence services to play in lockdowns and mass vaccination? We know lockdowns came to the west via the joint WHO-China mission at the end of February, so they didn't originate with intelligence agencies. We know the Italian lockdowns were instrumental in convincing other European countries to lock down. The origins of the Italian lockdown are still partially obscure, but all trails point to Health Ministry actors and modelling projects. Then, we know that Neil Ferguson's 16 March model was crucial for almost all Western lockdowns beyond Italy. Did intelligence services in some countries play a role in establishing lockdowns? They may well have, the precise dynamics will vary from country to country, but I can't see space in the narrative for anything but a secondary role, in some nations.
This makes a lot of sense. In Germany, for example, domestic intelligence is under the control of the Interior Ministry. They don't have any authority to dictate domestic policy, they are rather dictated at. The same goes for the health security goons in the RKI and elsewhere – all under the authority of the Health Ministry.
Of course, it makes total sense to me that the intelligence and security services were seized by lockdown feature, as the rest of the bureaucracy were.
I would also add that intelligence services plans for a bioattack are available to us. the Johns Hopkins CHS was paid to wargame a few different such attacks. these plans never call for lockdowns, or really anything much beyond accelerated vaccine development.
In the UK the military/IC were in charge of the response
https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/in-the-uk-pandemic-response-was-biodefense
In the US the military/IC were in charge of the response
https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/the-national-security-arms-of-government
The same is true for all the 5 eye countries and Mr. Graff helpfully adds NL as well (thank you!)
The explanation that all politicians in all countries were somehow convinced they had to lockdown by Italy - despite all the top epidemiologists, virologists etc. telling them this was wrong (and being brutally censored and silenced) - is more far fetched than the "conspiracy" explanation. It also gets the timeline backwards and misses the point of the lockdown-until-vaccine plan.
The Italian "outbreak" started with a media blitz based on nothing and then a huge increase in testing and hospitalizations based on that testing.
https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/covid-timeline-wiki-project-february-ec6
It was part of the larger global plan to lock everything down in anticipation of the mRNA vaccines, on which work started in January 2020.
The military/IC involvement was INTERNATIONAL and run through biodefense agreements, the global censorship and propaganda industrial complex which has large military/intelligence involvement, and "public-private" partnerships involving agencies like DARPA, the institutions/agencies people like Drosten are in charge of, and the global "philanthropic" orgs that pretty much ran the whole thing: Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust, with their sub-orgs CEPI and GAVI, and the WHO over which they exercise enormous leverage.
The overarching goal of the anti-scientific fear mongering and lockdowns was to prep the world for the arrival of the completely unsafe and ineffective mRNA vaccines - by illegally rushing them through Emergency Use Authorization that applies only to emergencies caused by CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear) attacks.
https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/what-is-emergency-use-authorization.
This EUA was the basis for all emergency authorizations of all covid vaccines everywhere - thanks to various agreements and memorandi of understanding that conveniently bypass each country's pharma regulating process.
The G3P structures (global public private partnerships) have been sucking up increasing amounts of wealth and power, and Covid was the most glaring manifestation of how how that power can be wielded
https://www.malone.news/p/g3p-global-public-private-partnerships-346
This is not a "conspiracy theory" about a bunch of spies or power mongering politicians or businessmen sitting around in dark rooms plotting to take over the world. This is the result of what CJ Hopkins (whose plight I'm sure you're aware of) calls "GloboCap"
Here's as good a quote as any by Hopkins, to summarize what the Covid "conspiracy" and globalist "conspiracy" theories are actually based on:
"I’m not suggesting there’s a bunch of capitalists sitting around in a room somewhere in their shiny black top hats planning all of this. I’m talking about systemic development, which is a little more complex than that, and much more difficult to intelligently discuss because we’re used to perceiving historico-political events in the context of competing nation states, rather than competing ideological systems … or rather, non-competing ideological systems, for capitalism has no competition. What it has, instead, is a variety of insurgencies, the faith-based Islamic fundamentalist insurgency and the neo-nationalist insurgency chief among them. There will certainly be others throughout the near future as global capitalism consolidates control and restructures society according to its values."
https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-schizotocracy-or-how-i-learned
The plandemic was just a primary, globally well coordinated rehearsal of top-down power-play to see how far governments can go unimpeded when
- deleting people's basic rights like right of movement, congregation, schooling, medical care,
- widely imposing tracking-apps on mobile-phones,
- test populace's resilience or rejection to utterly undemocratic rules as well as
- widely applying state-psyops, fear-porn and misinformation (gullibility-test)
before a general backlash manifests in the slowly awakening populace.
Simple as that and brace yourself because in the last one people failed "the test" miserably, it still being not very clear if they learned enough to resist the next one without losing their dignity for good ...
Power acquisition is the primary political agenda and I am speaking of the base level. Globalization is merely the inevitable result of unfettered personal ambition and greed for power in those lacking any other desires or moral controls. The average person will trade their power ambitions for the emotional and physical benefits of family. Psychopaths lack the temptation of those alternate goals. The individual craves power. This is achieved through more and more control of others. Combine with others with similar ambitions and eventually you have a control grid run by those psychopaths. The political agenda is an inevitable end result of that personal character flaw.
I say it is flaw because it does not benefit those with it in any really way. No one in the upper hierarchy live happier, more satisfied, or secured lives than those below them. Some may live longer, but a miserable existence is not improved by the number of days it is allowed to continue. Or to say another way, A life is not measured in years, but by the deeds within.
Thank you, dear Eugy, for this enlightening missive. Also: 😖
i'm on another continent. i walk around, look at the people. they are clueless. 90% are absolutely clueless. there could be new nuremberg trails and they'd continue to be absolutely clueless. and even if they'd hear about those trials they'd say "weird germans. there absolutely was a dangerous pandemic. what should we have done?".
there is no way out of this.
“ the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution”
Just know that Whenever this gang is mentioned things are happening that they deem need to be covered up and/or crushed.
They are nothing more than thugs with a fancy title.