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Delcina Skrubbs's avatar

As a physician in the USA with a coagulopathy (a genetic clotting disorder called Factor V Leiden) I went to my Hospital Medical Board and requested an exemption from being "Jabbed". In my life I have already had 5 DVT's (Deep Vein Thromboses) requiring being 'Anti-Coagulated' with blood thinners for 6 months each. 2 of the Clots broke loose and I had PEs (Pulmonary Emboli) which can block the blood supply from reaching the Lungs from the Heart.

"NO OXYGEN, NO LIFE".

My Medical Board found I had a valid exemption, due to the Venous Coagulopathy Associated with each of the Vaxx's. The Hospital Administration overrode that decision, stating, in part, that there was also a Clotting Disorder associated with SARS CoV-2 infection, itself, and the exemption would set an "unacceptable precedent" for an Attending Physician to be granted an exemption being denied to the 'general community'.

Forced with a choice of a "Leave Without Salary & denial of Unemployment Insurance" I have resigned my position and am in the process of opening a "Solo" Practice of my own.

The difficulty is that I've lost the ability to admit and manage my patients in any Hospital Accepting Medicare Monies. With no admitting privileges, Medicare reduces my reimbursement, (and eventually all private insurance), will be reduced by 10%. This is essentially my profit margin after covering 'Overhead & Associated Fees'.

There are now 1,200 patients with Parkinson's disease & related Movement Disorders without a specialist to manage their condition.

This is "mise en abyme" of the entire predicament created by this Administration. For the illusion of the "Health of the Public", patients cannot be exposed to my Un-Vaxx'd person... Even though for the last 18 months they were glad to be treated by me. So more than 1,000 severely afflicted individuals are left without adequate, specialized care.

Hopefully a day will come where the insanity of this moment is looked back on and be seen for what it is: "CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY" as the Rome Declaration clearly stated.

Eugyppius, Thank you for providing such clarity, moral dignity and a platform for sensible human beings to feel they are not lone voices screaming in this imposed Political Wilderness. --EJD

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cmpalmer75's avatar

I'm very sorry this has happened to you...and to your patients.

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RDP's avatar

I live in NZ. Terminated for not complying. I empathize .

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Man-i's avatar

I used to want to visit NZ and AUS and now Im not so sure. What is wrong with the political class over there. They've revealed themselves to be just as stupid and ignorant and cowardly as in the USA

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RDP's avatar

The average Kiwi knows very little about themselves and the world around them. But have an opinion about everything, the volume of their hubris disproportionate to their moral courage.

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arthur brogard's avatar

disproportionately inversely proportionate

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Soma187's avatar

Awesome... so I can get COVID and herpes at the same time

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Fla Mom's avatar

They willfully ignore the probability of your becoming naturally infected at all, which is the multiplier by which they must calculate the risk of developing clots via natural infection. The multiplier for the injections is 100%, because they're mandated. Regardless, they also ignore the ethics rules by which we used to have to conduct clinical trials on experimental products. (I'm sure the rest of us will still have to, of course.)

I'm a fellow American physician (retired) with a clotting disorder, but mine is mild (only two, provoked, DVTs and no PEs), and I'm on no routine medications. I just got over COVID, and am still on Eliquis/apixaban. I feel fortunate that I began listening to Dr. Simone Gold and then others, so I had my home test, prescribed HCQ, azithromycin, and prednisone in addition to the anti-coagulant (my doctor surprised me by already having a "COVID-home-therapy order set"), and pulse oximeter, and I'd already been on the immune-system-boosting nutraceutical regimen for some time. I didn't get very sick, but I was fatigued with low motivation to do much.

I think most of us have been leading our normal lives while the international oligarchy planned and carried out their moves. I've come to think that the unifying description for tyrants is, "Substitution of their judgment for others' and the use of force to compel compliance." For insight into why so many blindly comply, read George Orwell's Brave New World Revisited, in which he reviews and updates (as of 1958) the mind-control science on which he based his 1932 dystopian novel. (The book is available to read for free online.)

I'm so sorry for you, EJD, and I'll pray for you, your patients, and all the others being treated like slaves, as well as for a re-awakening of a love for liberty and self-reliance, with action taken to try to regain them.

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Steve Jordan's avatar

Sadly, none of this has been about practicing proper medicine. This has been about politics and control by the bureaucrats, politicians, and the billionaire class.

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Delcina Skrubbs's avatar

I've gotten passed by "Incredulity that this could happen in my supposedly 'free country' phase... Now I'm pissed. Here is a actually scientific opinion piece on the Immune Suppression being caused by the Mass Vaxx'ing during a Plandemic. It is a sort of follow up on Eugyppius' 2 Part expose on Original Antigenic Sin...

https://trialsitenews.com/the-original-antigenic-sin-covid-19-vaccination-and-sub-optimal-initial-immune-priming-deranges-the-antibody-cytotoxic-t-cell-immune-response/

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arthur brogard's avatar

excellent. thanks.

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Man-i's avatar

Aldous Huxley... Brave new world... and yes read it... all of it is there.

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Steve Jordan's avatar

I haven't read it, I don't think. If I have, it's back behind those memory cells that quit working. I will read it. I did finally get all the way thru Atlas Shrugged, and so much of what is going on now, she wrote about in the 40s. Chin up, it's time to fight back against this evil.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Edit: Aldous Huxley's Brave New World Revisited

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Soma187's avatar

Off topic... yes we are discussing virus's... but not hepatitis

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Ben's avatar

When my Covid-skittish relatives who work in hospitals talk about how terrible things are in the hospitals during local Covid spikes (bed shortages, nurse burnout, etc.) they seem to be blaming the virus. But then I read accounts like this and it sounds to me like a management failure. In other industries we certainly don't give upper management a pass when services collapse and large numbers of employees quit during times of external pressure...

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Carol's avatar

And medical centers are complicit, in so much as they obediently follow the “expert” guidance, and then “spin” the truth when communicating with their own employees (I’m one of them) and the community. I have gently tried to raise awareness by responding to FB posts asking about whether (for instance) pediatricians are providing the rates of myocarditis and mortality risk to parents considering vaccinating their children, or asking what proportion of hospitalized pts with covid are vaccinated ( I can’t even get that information *within* my workplace), but it is very clear that a large (but one hopes shrinking) proportion of the population continue to be driven by a psychotic snd unfounded fear.

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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

"and the exemption would set an "unacceptable precedent" for an Attending Physician to be granted an exemption being denied to the 'general community'."

It is unacceptable that this exemption is unavailable to either a physician or the general community.

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Delcina Skrubbs's avatar

Precisely.

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Ann Glover's avatar

Too true, Frank. None of this is acceptable, full stop. There should be no exemptions with experimental treatments at all. It should be 100% choice. We are sovereign beings who should be permitted to assess our risks for ourselves. There is no compelling evidence that this is an all-age, universal threat to humans. Nor is there compelling evidence that this touted "vaccine" stops it. It is on its way to endemicity, so people should be able to decide when and how they will greet and manage their own, inevitable exposure to the disease.

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Mary G's avatar

I am so sorry this happened to you. You are not alone here. 🫂

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Ann Glover's avatar

That is an appalling predicament and an abhorrent ruling. I'm so sorry, EJD. They do love the "well, you would probably get that anyway if you get Covid itself" argument. Reprehensible.

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Man-i's avatar

sorry for your predicament. I am an MD as well, early 50s, surgical sub spec. unjabbed. didnt feel that I needed it. got covid in Aug 21, now Valley Hostpital ridgewood kicked me off staff. Getting privileged somewhere else hopefully religious and med exemption. Also unless evil CMS mandate is defeated then cant operate at two sx centers I take cases to.

But CHECK THIS OUT! this MD in NJ was born with NO LEGS from Fetal exposure to thalidomide. He deferrred the vax and Valley hospital in NJ FIRED HIM. He worked for them. I am in Private prac so I still at least have a job for now.

read and look

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chh4g339FYHY968Srpdrfk1-wpIY-JrS/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NGyzWHP_qtH5qpEivUOFHUkXo7lbm-zP/view?usp=sharing

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arthur brogard's avatar

I think we have to stop talking vaccine and start talking immune system. you still cover the same ground but the shift in viewpoint makes all the difference. I think. I hope. I posted on facebook and twitter my point of view.

https://www.facebook.com/arthur.brogard/posts/10227104356457137

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BC's avatar

(germ theory vs terrain theory... yep.)

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arthur brogard's avatar

well yes and no. I mean I strongly believe in terrain theory etc but what I"m about here is taking the word 'vaccine' out of the narrative because it simply is hogging the limelight and distracting and deceiving everyone.

Instead of 'are you going to get vaccinated?' it would better be 'Are you going to have your immune system artificially provoked?'

and instead of 'this vaccine gives 99% protection' it would better be ' these immune systems were apparently 99% proof even after artificial provocation' accompanied by ' we find that the normal immune system of itself is 99% proof against this pathogen'.

And so on.

Constantly bring attention back to where it belongs: the immune system.

Which is under attack first by these injections, that's their mode of operation and the entire extent of their abilities and then:

by every single govt measure mandated.

so we could say, quite blandly, ' I'd like to stay indoors all day but it is very prejudicial to my immune system you know'.

or ' It is nice to have us all at home but such crowding is prejudicial to our immune systems you know..'

and so on.

Never mention the injection. And never mentioning the self.

For very good reasons:

1. The injection is a sacred cow and you cannot win by mentioning its name.

2. The self has no rights and you cannot win by suggesting it may.

Ah... but the immune system... well there's a chance there....

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BC's avatar

ahh! I get it. And I like it.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

This disregard of your specific life, arrogance etc is terrifying and deeply immoral.

I want to assure you that you will do very well in your private practice.

Did you have Covid already, by the way?

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Delcina Skrubbs's avatar

No SARS-2. Have not had any Sxs. Never had a PCR or any other COVID Test. Have been on IVM for last 6 months. Do a lot of outdoor activity. My last Vit 'D' level was 60ng/ml. Take elemental Zn. I've been lucky... my wife is currently actually obese and has 3 medical risks factors. We are both Un-Vaxx'd

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JCR's avatar

Sorry to hear of your situation. I am very familiar with the Factor V issue from my time in the vascular device business. It seems a group like the Society of Vascular Surgery could make a statement related to the issue faced by individuals with the Factor V genetic disorder.

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BC's avatar

This is insane. We are living in insane times. So incredibly frustrating. I'm so sorry.

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V3's avatar

WTAF

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Adam Harris's avatar

I’m sorry to hear you had to go through this.I can see parallels to this in my own story in trying to get a medical exemption from my neurologist and PCP. I have a vascular condition called brain arteriovenous malformation (AVM), which puts me at increased risk of stroke and hemorrhage. If you Google “Brain AVM and covid-19 vaccine” you’ll find about 3 different medical journals where people with AVMs suffer fatal hemorrhages. I brought this information to my physicians and they tell me that it’s not grounds for an exemption because if I were exposed to the virus I could have similar complications. Your point about “unacceptable precedent” is basically their argument as well. What I’ve learned recently is that It is very difficult to find a doctor to write a medical exemption due to state medical boards tracking these exemptions and also, pressure from the state medical boards on doctors to deny people medical exemptions. While many businesses, colleges, and schools do offer medical exemptions as a way to be exempt from the Covid 19 vaccines, they are very difficult to obtain.

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Man-i's avatar

thats insane, there's no reason why ANYONE should be compelled to take this vax. Its pure vindictive politics at this point virtue signaling, fear driven hysteria

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arthur brogard's avatar

Yep. Seems to me there's simply no risk assessment in any of this.

None.

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TZVI's avatar

Parkinson's, MS, Lupus, CFS = Rickettsia, Lyme, Endemic Typhus, and co-infections. Now that you are off the Government Socialized Medical System ( Medicare) you are free to explore what I wrote, and treat patients accordingly.

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SomeChick's avatar

What is being done to you and so many other U.S. health care providers is unconscionable. And yes, your patients are suffering due to these nonsensical "one size fits all" draconian mandates.

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Graham Stull's avatar

We need to get you on a plane, to Austin Texas, so that you can have a nice, three-hour long chat with Joe Rogan. I'm serious. You need to talk to Rogan.

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Lorenzo Casaccia's avatar

I totally second that.

At the same type, our author is in academia, maybe has a family, I empathize completely with his desire to keep a low profile.

I have myself increased my dissident stance on Twitter (and I am vaccinated, just appalled at the worldwide delirium acceleration) - I have some little modicum of visibility in my corner of tech and am a regular family guy like a lot of people, I have been joking whether i've been wise. People are getting real crazy out there

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Graham Stull's avatar

I hear you, brother. I am also a regular person. I work as a public servant and have always considered myself more of a centrist. I still do, in fact. It's just that the centre itself has shifted into Crazyland.

I decided not to take the vaccine in May, not because I thought it was terrible, but because I am a data analyst and I calculated the absolute risk reduction for my age group and decided that a medical intervention of any kind that reduced my risk by 0.22% was not worth the economic resources. At best, I thought, give my dose to someone in the developing world who could benefit from it.

I have since changed my views somewhat on the vaccine, becoming more critical of the policies and more attune to possible long-term personal or epidemiologic risks.

At the same time, colleagues and friends seem to have shifted the other way. In lockstep with the media, they have begun to see the unvaxxed as unclean, somehow. Friends who sympathised with my criticisms of the first lockdown now see me as a crazy antivaxxer and they don't want to share physical space with me, much less ideological space. I blog about it (grahamstull.com) but I don't push my views on any platform where I'm likely to be seen by anyone who isn't deliberately looking.

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TexBat's avatar

I donate my family's doses to Fauci

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VeryVer's avatar

I'm in the same boat. I had Coviv back in March 2020 and never gave the vaccines much thought. I never go to the doctor or take drugs anyway. Knock on wood. Now they're pushing the most useless thing on us? It's very easy to get any group pf people to hate another group. First make then scared, and then blame the out group. What's funny is that the same people pushing Critical Race Theory see nothing at all wrong with outright discrimination -- as long as it benefits them.

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CornPop's avatar

It's not useless... it has a purpose! Just not the one you'd expect. The Great Reset, its alive and well.. if you don't know it, I strongly suggest you learn it. It's being thrust upon us and we must fight like hell against it.

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VeryVer's avatar

Yeah, I know. :-( but what can I do?

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Fear's avatar

Prepare.....

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Florida Prophet's avatar

As DJT quipped to his family before descending the golden elevator into the presidential race in 2015, “Now we’ll find out who our real friends are.”

Those who shun you now never were true friends. You’re best off knowing this.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

UNfortunately it took this terrible mess to find out that the people I thought were friends are not. I talked shortly to one of them last week and had this idea we have been living on 2 different planets. They have no idea about what is really going on and still defend the government's view. I could not stay long ad I was glad I could escape. Then I went to another house where I was treated to breakfast by a person I barely know. I have new friends. Better friends.

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Edna Jayne's avatar

Weirdly it's my family, most have just crossed us off as granny killers and crazy conspiracy theorist because we decided to wait and see which "vaccine" would be the best. Obviously we have concluded that NONE of the current "vaccines" are "best"! It's ok though, most of the family that's angry with us are the ones I always thought were crazy nut cases anyway!

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VeryVer's avatar

Only my family really knows that i'm unvaccinated. Because, normally, medical issues are not public knowledge. I'm sure I'd be castigated by more people of they knew the truth.

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Burbankjim's avatar

I think some of them are starting to realize that they made a mistake and now secretly regret it.

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VeryVer's avatar

Too bad you're not in my town! I went through all this already sort of when I started eating low-carb and high fat, and I tried to talk to people about it. They think I'm crazy, and expected me to die in short order. For most people, "an authority figure told me to do something, so that's all I need -- it's the same as "the truth." People don't have the mental energy to doubt the official story on everything -- it's too tiring, especially if they don't eat food that's good for your brain. (I've noticed very high correlation between anxiety disorders and a diet high in processed carbs, sugars and caffeine. People at the Waffle House aren't panicking. But customers at Starbuck's are afraid to touch the cups.)

How easy is the official narrative: "There's a terrible plaque and we are fighting it and everything we do is working. Listen to your Dad, you good little children." It's certainly much more mentally fatiguing to "tilt at the windmills" and swim upstream.

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Susanna's avatar

VeryVer - I find it wonderfully fascinating that the same tribe I found for low-carb ended up being totally on the ball and suspicious about COVID from the get-go. People like Ivor Cummins, Robb Wolf, Paul Saladino, Tim Noakes, and many more - it's like low carbers had swallowed the red pill long ago and we were not easily deceived.

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Ann Glover's avatar

I may need to get on to your diet, VeryVer! :D

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Rafael Kubelik's avatar

I am in a similar position. I'm semi retired but my wife is not. She works for a fortune 100 tech giant and boosters will be mandated soon. Her argument is, why should I do this if you won't? It may get ugly.

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Scott's avatar

Wow, so sorry to see this. So if you show him data on Israel, Gibraltar, Scotland, etc., he's like, Lord Fauci is STILL correct! Damn.

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VeryVer's avatar

That's a shame, truly. You never know about people until something like this happens. My sister couldn't wait to get my nieces vaccinated -- 12 and 17. I hope they'll be ok. But of course, she loves all things medical. They're like priests to her.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

That sounds ominous. Have you sight on another job? With all the information around you would think people wake up. But there are several that just want to keep on sleepwalking. I hope for the best, for you and god only knows, your spouse.

I only have a dog and 3 cats. They don't comment.

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Edna Jayne's avatar

Ugh, yes that would be heart wrenching. That is a very difficult situation to be in right now. Sorry.

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elsterbirb's avatar

I am so sorry to hear this. You mentioned (I assume adult) children in another post of yours-- what do your children think?

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Semicolon Addict's avatar

My marriage became a "casualty of war"; will be final next month. At least she's finally at the point where she admits that she knows something's amiss; hopefully, enough so that she has dropped the notion of getting our 9 yr old son poked with the bioweapon.

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Lisa H's avatar

🥲

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Tall Chick's avatar

Learned this quickly and it hurts. We would all stand up for their rights to make a free choice about their healthcare. All in the name of "safety".

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Dr. MaryAnne Shiozawa, D.C. 🌸's avatar

I'm half-French, and most of my family is in France. I noticed your most recent post is in French about Belgium. The pass sanitaire in France is just ridiculous. I wonder if you've been following what's been going on there?

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Graham Stull's avatar

I actually live a few miles from the border, in Belgium. Here we now have a half-baked version of the French pass sanitaire (not enforced the same way in all regions, but that may change tonight), which is just as ridiculous of course.

My take on France is that, well, they have always had a very authoritarian streak, with a penchant for taking to the streets to counteract that.

The anti-vaxx pass movement seems to have merged with the gilets jaunes who preceded. Not sure if that is good or not, but they have my full support, given what is at stake in Europe and across the world.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

My family is in Belgium and I follow both the dutch and french speaking part. The dutch newspaper is all government follower. The french one is a whole lot more critical, although very carefully wording it. I read that the press in Belgium was forbidden to mention the deaths and damage the shots do. I know many doctors have lost their license and others are being blocked on all media, the most known Dr Geert VandenBosch, but he has an own web site. I always liked southern France but am glad that instead I moved to the US. In our small town in the south, everything is back to normal, except for a few people who hold on to masks.

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Cherrie's avatar

Just being able to read all these comments has lifted my spirits this morning (here in Australia). It is amazing how we are all following many of the same 'posts' eg Dr VandenBosch. Which I must admit, his way of writing was very difficult for me to comprehend at first. My tribe here in Australia's capital is very very tiny. Most people have been vaxxed, and are very very happy with their decision. My two adult daughters are among those. I try to understand their reasoning for getting it, but I was very surprised they jumped in so early....they know it is experimental, but they didn't hesitate. I feel that I have failed as a mother. Their critical thinking went out the window as soon as they were told their 'freedoms' would be curtailed if they didn't get vaxxed. My heart is hurting, as they have ghosted me on our private social media. I don't know whether to just ignore them now, or push on with trying to stay connected with them??? :(

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

That does sound like quite the police state. For all our faults here in the USA, I will hug my 1st amendment tonight. I thought most of Europe was relative freedom of the press, save for certain, ah, delicate questions about historical events around the WW II era, which can get one prison time for saying (writing) forbidden things.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Hi, 'neighbor!' Small town in the American South. We thank God every day we're here for this episode.

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Cautious One's avatar

Some people hold onto masks, not because they are rabid vaxxers who believe in vaccine passports, but because they believe it does help “somewhat” (i.e., it’s better than nothing) to prevent the spread. Especially those who have underlying conditions. Just sayin’.

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JeffDavid's avatar

Not sure what's wrong with grahamskull.com, but all of my browsers flag it for security issues and block it. Suspect it may be an outdated certificate

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cm27874's avatar

skull -> stull?

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JeffDavid's avatar

Sorry I did mean to type stull. I'll try it later in a container on another laptop. Not letting it through on this one.

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_Jim's avatar

Oui!

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coords1306's avatar

How unreal would it be if eugyppius was the first guest on Joe Rogan to get the 'Secret Source' treatment. Dark room, blurred lense type deal.

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_Jim's avatar

Luv it!

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Richard Seager's avatar

Just be careful of the crows protecting their young. They can get mad.

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Candis's avatar

Not if you give them food stamps and free phones, apparently. Well, at least not that mad. They grumble a bit.

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Tall Chick's avatar

What's your twitter handle so we can follow you? I'm working on spreading knowledge through Twitter as well.

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Lorenzo Casaccia's avatar

@lorenzocasaccia

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Constantine Georgoussis's avatar

100% , you need to talk in detail about all your research , this is very important work and could help open more people’s eyes ,

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TexBat's avatar

eugyppius please do this I will drive down to Austin to buy you bbq

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Random's avatar

You need to be maxxvaxed to be able to fly to the the US. But I would also watch the fk out of this episode.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Can you not get in to Texas or Florida without the jab?

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VeryVer's avatar

Everybody needs the shots now to cross the border -- unless he swims the Rio Grande....

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

That is what I thought. No flying, no crossing the border. (ties her dog on her back and swims the Rio Grande. A new kind of wetback)

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TZVI's avatar

I thought US citizens and Permanent resident holders get in with a Covid Test...only no us Citizens / PR need the Injection?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I am not sure about Mexico. I know I can't visit my family in Belgium. Trouble getting out, then trouble getting in Belgium, then trouble getting back out there, and then trouble getting back to the States. Imagine I get stuck there. My poor dog. And I don't want to sit with a face cover for 18 hours - bus to airport, then 3 hours in airport, then 9 hours plane, airport, and taxi !

But if the situation here were to get worse, I would not hesitate to try and go to Mexico at all. Right now everything is fine here in GA

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Bash's avatar

I couldn't agree more

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Tall Chick's avatar

I was JUST thinking this very thing! He could wear a mask or something. Oh how ironic that would be!

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Ann Glover's avatar

As Alex Berenson likes to say "virus gonna virus"! I'm always reminded of those sci-fi time travel series, where people go back in time desperately to try and alter the course of history and save someone they love. Yet, no matter what they do, that person ends up dying anyway. That's pretty much what's happening here. A delay of the inevitable. People would do better to try and fitten themselves up, lose weight, get some sunshine, try and de-stress, hug their loved ones, and then face whatever fate apportions them with serenity.

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Irena's avatar

"De-stress"?? When I wake up each morning wondering what the government is going to do to me next! :-(

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Ann Glover's avatar

Same here, Irena. Same here. It is truly abominable what is happening. I wake up with a feeling of fear and grief in my entire body, every morning.

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Ann Glover's avatar

Seeing your comment on the government, it struck home again for me where the true fear comes from. Apart from the first night when I knew I had Covid and when I had a brief moment of terror that my affairs weren't in order for my kids, I have not once been afraid of the virus. Not then. Not since. Not of dying from it. Not of getting it again. I didn't even need the antibody test to know that this was not something that was going to get me. Maybe in the future, yes, I will get a version of it and, if I am much older and haven't looked after myself, it might do me in. And I am quite ok with that. I would rather meet death on my terms. And most certainly not without the intervention of a locus parentis government that, at best, doesn't realise it has slipped into tyranny or, at worst, is entirely complicit with the medical, pharmaceutical and technocratic sycophants whispering in their ears.

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Irena's avatar

I was never afraid of the virus either. Actually, I caught it about a month ago, and it wasn't fun. I'd describe it as the worst flu I've ever had (high fever, strong cough). However, no breathing problems, no hospitalization. Since I'm young-ish (still in my 30s) and have no chronic conditions, the severity surprised me a bit. Now let's see... I lived in near-total isolation for about a year and half (thanks, government), during which my immune system had no practice. I was also rather stressed out by all the anti-COVID measures (thanks, government), which certainly didn't boost my immune system. Then, some of the restrictions were lifted a couple of months ago (I'm in the Czech Republic), and so my out-of-practice immune system was suddenly bombarded with all the bugs in circulation. In September, I caught some flu-like illness, and then just a month later, COVID. As for COVID: they call to tell you that you must stay in quarantine, but there is no early treatment. No antivirals, nothing at all. (There's the monoclonal antibodies treatment for the old, but I'm not old, and apparently, it's not being used much in any case, because most people don't even know about it. Y'know, it's all vaccination-vaccination-vaccination.) So, you stay at home unless you're extremely ill (thanks, government), and if you're extremely ill, then you can go to the hospital. Meanwhile, I spent a week trying to reach a general practitioner over the phone (I go to some private clinic; they were pretty decent before COVID, actually), as my condition kept deteriorating. At that point, I'd already cleared the virus (according to my self-test), but I had a fever over 39C. And then (without physically examining me) they prescribed something for the cough and fever, plus zinc and vitamin C, and I eventually recovered.

Now imagine if they hadn't wrecked the whole population's immune system over the past year and a half, and actually offered some early treatment. Also, at this point, they seem to have given up trying to suppress the virus. That's mostly a good thing, except that they're now introducing punitive measures for the unvaccinated. Luckily, I have my papers (recovered from the illness), but they're only valid for six months. After that, who knows? Anyway, now that I have natural immunity, I truly have nothing to fear from the virus. The government, though...

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PatriotInGibraltar's avatar

What is most troubling about your saga, Irena, is that you could have identified yourself in just about ANY country and the same description of events would have been amazingly similar. No early intervention, no treatment protocols, don't-call-us-we'll-call-you approach to managing the PLAGUE. What's truly frightening is the concerted uniformity of malpractice being committed across the globe.

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cm27874's avatar

As far as I understand, in parts of India (like Uttar Pradesh), things have been handled differently. Home treatment kits (including ivermectin) have been handed not only to infected people but also to all people in the same household. They seem to be doing pretty well...

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Ann Glover's avatar

Just wait for them all to start bullying you with the line "oh, so what if you've got natural immunity, that will wane". Or "according to the Kentucky study, you're twice as likely to die with natural immunity than you are with a vaccine" (it's a kak study, btw - to use an infamous South African word).

And then there's the doozy (once you show them the 128 and counting studies that confirm natural/prior-infection immunity superiority): "So what if you have natural immunity, with one vaccine you get even extra protection - so just get vaccinated, you selfish person!"

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abrown95's avatar

That's what came up in a conversation I had with someone. Each time I came back with facts or logic, this person would bump to the next talking point.

Her: The vaccines will stop the pandemic.

Me: The CDC admitted in Aug that vaxx'd can still spread it.

Her: But vaxx'd spread it less than unvaxx'd.

Me: Actually that's not true, but even if it did, you're still spreading it so it'll just continue.

Her: It'll reduce hospitalizations.

Me: It's coming out that's not the case either. Plus I've had it, so why take something that I'm already protected against and risk adverse effects?

Her: You'll have "super" immunity.

Me: Huh? What is "super" immunity???

Luckily someone walked up and interrupted us and I could end it at that point. Good grief.

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Irena's avatar

And I see that the Czech Prime Minister just announced that, as of Monday, they are introducing the Bavarian model: only vaccination and natural immunity (as certified by a valid test within the past 6 months) counts for services and mass gatherings. I'm actually not entirely sure what "services" means. Can you go to (for example) the post office? Sure, I've got my certificate (for now), but damn...

And the thing is, the Prime Minister recently lost the election, and the new cabinet is in the process of being formed, although the process is being dragged out. So, the real question is: what will the new cabinet do?

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Susanna's avatar

Irena - I'm currently recovering from COVID, along with my husband and our two boys (15 and 12). I agree with you that it was far more severe than I was expecting. This is definitely the worst flu I've had in my life. I did end up short of breath throughout days 6 - 12, and finally started taking the horse ivermectin on day 12. My sense of smell returned by that first evening of treatment, and I haven't had shortness of breath again (after only 2 doses). I'm going to continue to finish the 5 day course.

I would have taken the horse stuff even sooner, but I WAS afraid I'd misdose it or that the horse stuff maybe has some less-than-safe other ingredients. But after seeing my O2 sats go down to 86 one time, I was like - um - worth the risk. Doing it.

I ordered more ivermectin in case my parents or in-laws get this. Like your experience, Irena, I was not exactly prepared for the severity of this bioweapon (although I should add the rest of my family didn't have my bad experience).

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Ann Glover's avatar

I'm glad to hear that you both overcame it and are better again. It's iniquitous that combination therapies of cheap available medicine have been so villified. I'm glad they worked for you, Susanna. No doubt the Pharma crowd and their armies of paid "fact checkers" and usurped and paid-off tech and media were ordered to quash all of that. They want to force the Vax plus also have the opportunity to cook up some ivermectin equivalents to cash in some more dosh.

I was fortunate to have the virus relatively mildly. Delta was less about chest and more about severe joint inflammation. Downed an aspirin hot medication every evening and that did it for me. Anosmia after a week and pretty much better by day 10.

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Fear's avatar

Knowing and adjusting your vitamin D level ahead of time is critical too. Perchance did you have a level drawn?

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LP's avatar

Glad I'm not the only one. I jokingly refer to waking at 5 a.m. (not on purpose) for my daily lying-awake-in-bed worrying period. Prayer helps.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Thank you all for these comments. I thought I was the only one taking anxiety herbs to get me through the night. Obviously not! At least I can laugh again !

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LP's avatar

Laughing during times like these is of utmost importance. It really is.

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Ann Glover's avatar

God, no! Join the club. I'm

practically mainlining them! :D

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Candis's avatar

It's just part of the process. It's either that or denial at this point. If it hurts, you've got a real shot!

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arthur brogard's avatar

yes. the narrative should literally ignore vaccines and concentrate on Immune system v virus.

vaccines should be much diminished in importance for they're hogging the stage and excluding important messaging/thinking.

question: to prod the immune system into life with fake attack or not?

ask that.

don't mention that it'd be a 'vaccine' that does that.

robe them entirely of their stage front, stage centre presence and all their pretentious trappings.

question is what to do with the immune system? how to help it? strengthen it?

vaccines as such are a nothing. that's just a name for one way of prodding the immune system.

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Ann Glover's avatar

Yes, there's a reason why they used to call them "immunisations". Dr Hooman Noorchashm has been taking exactly this stance in his own particular crusade. Haven't checked in on what he's had to say for a while, but he was all for people being permitted to establish their immunity-status - and not get side-tracked by anything else. But it still begs the question whether those who have not been exposed yet and who don't want the vax should be compelled to do anything about it. I suspect that there are very few of those left - what a pity the authorities aren't even interested in finding out. Plus there's the matter of cross-immunity with prior coronaviruses, which may already be protecting many people to a degree. Why mess with that? People should be left alone to elect whichever form of immunity they would rather risk - whether that's through infection or the rather dubious vaccinations currently available (I know which one I have always preferred). At the risk of sounding crass, I suspect the greatest cull has been and gone. And all of those who are really vulnerable and concerned are likely to boost to hell and gone anyway. So everyone should just butt out of everyone's business and let people face their fears and risks whichever way they see fit.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Yes, the thing is there's only one form of 'immunity' and that's the immune system.

Well there is another: anti-viral specifics such as IVM.

But when talking this injection thing they're not in consideration are they.

Only the immune system is in consideration.

And it presumed, insisted, that it is a good ploy to

. artificially provoke it into action

. repeatedly

. with no concern whatever for its prior health (vit D levels etc.)

. with no concern whatever for helping maintain stocks of what it needs.

. no concern whatever with the overall effect upon it of people's psychology in that scenario.

. no concern whatever with corollaries of an artificial attack (i.e. foreign materials)

The point is that in such a scenario: clear and total emphasis on the immune system as the sole player - then it makes complete sense to concentrate entirely on the immune system.

To have great respect and concern for it.

But they're treating it with distain and contempt.

My right, our right, is to wrest back protection for our own immune systems because in the name of needing them they are destroying them!

i.e they are mad. Concentrating on the immune system itself rather like an 'abstract entity' (though it is of course anything but) somewhat 'blind sides' them as we take the personal out of the discussion.

Arguing for our rights is fruitless, pointless, self destructive. To them it is axiomatic that we have no rights. That is their basic position.

Sit down and have a think about it. They all (extreme vaxxers and politicians) share this one thing: we have no rights as human beings.

But other things do have rights. Strangely enough. We can argue for the rights of our unborn children. We could argue for the rights of our livers or our left feet.

We can argue for any and all rights. Except our rights. 'We' have no rights.

To say that we have rights they see as a direct challenge to their right to do with us as they wish. They will not contemplate such a challenge.

So we need an 'end run'. Have to go round them.

So claim disinterest in the self. Do not challenge their 'right' to do anything they wish with us, but deflect attention in that direction: 'protect the immune system'.

I think they are capable of going along with that where they're totally incapable of going along with any 'human rights'.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I also wrote an article about boosters, specifically that they seem to wane at very close to TWICE faster rate than the original shots. Extrapolating this -- doubling shot frequency with every next shot -- I arrived at a joke conclusion that booster administration will become infinite around July.

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/infinitely-frequent-boosters-by-next

Jokes aside, obviously boosters are a total dead end and they do not even buy all that much time -- and they are a danger to all.

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eugyppius's avatar

I noticed that too. I think possibly, the six-month figure is wrong, and the fade to 50% has always taken only about three months. The Qatar study found the same thing with doses 1 and 2: 70% efficacy against infection to start, 10-14 weeks out, you're at about 50%.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.25.21262584v1.full.pdf

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Was it Israel who is going to booster every 4 months now?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Thanks. I agree that there could be different estimates of original two-shots efficacy.

I was looking mostly at Israel's cases curve and when the country was vaccinated (Jan-Mar) and when the second wave happened (Aug). That's my guess of 6 months.

In reality, who knows. In the US, Moderna may wane slower to 50% due to 3.3 times higher dose of the same junk.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I only found out a few months ago that Moderna had way higher doses. All my friends had Moderna. My family was injected with Pfizer and AZ. They are getting 3rd shots next week. I hold my heart.

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Bash's avatar

VE dropping to 50% across all age groups by month 3 means they are worse than useless. Incredible

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New Zealand Energy's avatar

An excellent article it was too thank you. My only comment, and please do not take this as malice, would be the use of twice faster as opposed to half the time.

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Fla Mom's avatar

"As [Wall Street Journal writer Gregory] Zuckerman explains in his book, [A Shot to Save the World,] “The [Moderna] scientists [trying to develop mRNA drugs] ran into a huge new problem… subsequent administrations saw the protein production plummet. It was as if the body’s defenses had learned to fend off the injected molecule and its genetic payload.” Moderna wound up turning away from making mRNA drugs for repeated dosing and focusing on vaccines for just this reason; a successful vaccine should need only one or two doses to produce a sustained if not permanent immune response, thus eliminating the need for regular dosing." Note: "should."

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/playing-god-badly/comments?fbclid=IwAR1N1wZfcfmAz2tcKqq3SSf9mMZyCq4uB1PGxmB8gNGNoMRHrFESpYnhM_8

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

How fortunate for the world that Moderna (and I suppose, BioNT or whatever its name is) got all the bugs out and had products for FDA emergency approval just as a huge pandemic and lucrative captive market became available 😶

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Ann Glover's avatar

Infinity-Booster-Frequency! That is truly hilarious, in a gallows humour kind of way.... People's systems are going to get trashed.

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Fear's avatar

Perhaps they can simply retool those fanny pack automatic insulin pump units to provide a steady stream of Pfizer/Moderna/JJ profits. Perhaps a line of vapes?

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Mercenary's avatar

Yea like Ketracel-White

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

“They could very well succeed in making Corona into the unprecedented public health disaster that the virus itself never quite was.”

Well-spotted, eugyppius. And something tells me that’s not accidental, just another prong of this multifaceted democidal campaign, from the denial of life-saving early treatment protocols to administration of murderous interventions such as Remdeathivir and intubation/ventilation to catastrophic public policies (lockdowns, masking, avoidance of sunshine/fresh air, mass global injection of an experimental gene therapy, etc.) to lethal injections and on and on and on. In other words, “It’s a feature, not a bug!”

Have you seen this bloodwork analysis conducted by a physician documenting pre- and post-vaccination (#1 and #2) results? Why this hasn’t been done on everyone who has been subjected to this global experiment is a wonder but no surprise: https://www.brighteon.com/d0b119e8-6c42-4bc3-9e32-d6d37b1ff769

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Mara's avatar

That video was posted on YT & taken down, also on Rumble but no longer to be found there! (And I thought Rumble was immune to the censorship... :/ )

So not only do they not want you to get this sort of bloodwork done, they also don't want you to know that it might show something important...

Here in Australia, we have medicare for all. But they have limited blood Vitamin D level testing to one per year... and if you want a d-dimer test (which shows recent blood clotting) doctors have been told to discourage that.

But yeah, it is all about keeping you healthy...

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Mara, wow, thank you for the additional info, and that’s pretty disappointing about Rumble. Do you happen to know the name of the doctor in the video? I’m having trouble finding it since the original has been disappeared.

Just when I think Australia can’t sink any lower …

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Mara's avatar

Dr. Nathan Thompson. He has a channel on YT, and has done a couple of videos since with very oblique references to the deleted one - he is mindful of censorship!

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Martha's avatar

Do you know if he has done any follow-up studies/analysis yet?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thanks so much, Mara!

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

I did not know about they discouraging the D-DIMER test to ascertain micro clotting. It sounds plausible to me as they won't allow doctors to order rowuhan specific antibody test to prove one has immunity via the memory cells to rowuhan. I heard a story where NSW Health stopped a lab from giving the results of that test to the client! Since the beginning Queensland and Victoria made it illegal to prescribe HCQ to treat rowuhan!

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Mara's avatar

That actually came from the TGA, who directed the states to implement policies accordingly. Both Qld & Vic went above & beyond the call of duty with huge fines & possible jail time - but the other states also were not able to prescribe it. It doesn't really need more than a nasty letter from AHPRA to pull health practitioners into line, as they hold the power of deregistration - and any fines they can get a court to impose - for not complying with directives. Recently, the TGA went in the same direction with ivermectin - just not quite the same penalties. Have a look at their website - it is informative. Remdesivir is one of just 2 approved treatments - and they have a huge list of not approved treatments, including Vitamin C, Vitamin D, zinc... you get the idea.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

"Both Qld & Vic went above & beyond the call of duty..." very droll!

In NSW, until that edict from the TGA, doctors could prescribe ivermectin and HCQ. I asked two chemists about them.

DON'T touch Remdesivir!

I do get the idea; but, alas, too many don't!

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Mara's avatar

It's enough to make a conspiracy theorist start thinking about a planned deliberate genocide, eh? :)

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

They made it illegal to prescribe IVM for it, too. BTW, I’m not on Telegram, so can you check Dr. Yeadon’s channel (https://t.me/robinmg) to see if he’s had any recent activity? Just making sure he’s okay :-)

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

I have not checked since yesterday - I've 116 new ones to scan - but he is OK.

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Cetera's avatar

It's still on Rumble, on Dr Nathan Thompson's own page. Rumble's search functionality is just crap. https://rumble.com/vnefu9-my-jaw-dropped-when-i-saw-these-immune-markers-post-2nd-.html

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Mara's avatar

Thanks for that!

(It wasn't just the search, it was the actual link I had copied was no longer there... weird things are going on!)

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I wonder if Rumble took down Senator Johnson's video too. Youtube did

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Good question. I was APPALLED but not surprised when YouTube pulled the Ron Johnson panel. I had embedded it in “Letter to a Tyrant” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-tyrant), and it got zoinked hours after I posted it. Absolutely, atrociously unconscionable. Also seems like a violation of some law somewhere because government/public meetings are not supposed to be censored, right?

Here is another link to the panel presentation (https://thehighwire.com/videos/live-in-d-c-expert-panel-on-medical-mandates-vaccine-injuries/), which should be required viewing for every human being.

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Ryk.'s avatar

MAA. You remember we exchanged a couple comments with Dr Yeadon? He said that he had a good meeting with leading Jewish authorities in NY and Israel. He said he was optimistic. I have not seen him post for about a month ( not to say he hasn’t) have you heard from

Him? Warm regards.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Ryk., I hadn’t heard about the meeting—that’s encouraging news! And yes, we definitely need to make sure he stays safe! I searched my inbox and see the last interaction I had with him was on 11/9, so not too long ago. Last I heard, he was busy prepping, so that could be the reason for his absence. That said, I haven’t been able to keep up with comments as much this past week, so he may have appeared elsewhere without my knowledge.

Dr. Yeadon, if you show up on this thread, please let us know you’re okay :-) And we need some sort of smoke signal you can send up regularly to indicate all is well so we don’t worry about you ;-)

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Hello! I’m in good heart.

The rabbinical court entered a judgement ever bit as good as we’d hoped.

“Absolutely forbidden to vaccinate children, young adults & pregnant women. Reserved judgement on older adults”

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Wonderful news, and bless you for responding so quickly, Dr. Yeadon! We worry about you :-)

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I’m ok. I’m definitely not scared of anyone any more 😎

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Good thing you’re such a badass 😸

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Given what you’ve shared about your wife’s feelings on the situation at hand, I think she would particularly appreciate the latest incendiary entry in my letters series, “Letter to a Tyrant” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-tyrant), which people have been tweeting at @BillGates, @wef, @JustinTrudeau, @POTUS, @BorisJohnson, and others of their ilk, much to my delight 😁 If I wasn’t already on a list somewhere, no doubt I am now ;-)

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

What kind of impact will the rabbinical court’s decision have in the real world? Will that serve as a religious exemption for Jews in those categories? And can that in any way help people in states like New York, where all exemptions count for nothing in the eyes of the so-called law?

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

It’s a good question & one I cannot answer. There are several such courts but this one serves the NYC Hasidic community (so I understand).

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Rebecca's avatar

Dr Yeadon, thank you so much for all the good work that you do. I learned of that halachic ruling last week. I'm a member of an orthodox Jewish community in NYC, and would like to spread the word about this, particularly to my children's school, especially if NY decides to mandate the vax for kids. I was trying to find out more information - particularly what community that particular rabbinical court serves. Do you have that information, or maybe what neighborhood the proceedings took place in?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That’s what I figured, but thanks for confirming. The important thing is to get more and more high-profile individuals and groups to come out against this visibly, so hopefully we can start to spark the awakening …

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Cherrie's avatar

Thank you Dr Yeadon for all that you are doing. It must be a difficult place to be sometimes. My question is about Satrovamab. I have confirmed today they have given it to a healthy but covid positive teen boy that was due to have his vaxx in two days. They gave him a Satrovamab infusion, and he is happy because his covid symptoms were mild....thinking that Satrovamab was his savour. My question is. What future problems could he encounter after take this experimental treatment??????

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Cherrie

I wish I could advise but it’d be misleading if I said I’d reviewed the safety information. The name implies that it’s an antibody but it’s not certain. I’m not expecting it to be a “bad actor” in this horrible drama. Good luck!

Mike

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I just pinged him in response to one of his comments on another thread and asked him to let us know he’s okay :-)

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Smoothgrooves's avatar

No offence meant but is the evidence really there that this is a 'lethal' injection? I haven't seen convincing evidence of that. Why for example is there no evidence of excess deaths in some countries with high vaccination rates (e.g. Sweden / Switzerland)?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

No offense taken, and I would say there is beyond ample evidence that many of the injections are either immediately lethal (i.e., thousands of reported deaths of formerly healthy individuals within the first 48 hours) or gradually lethal (i.e., the introduction of life-threatening illnesses and injuries along with the destruction of the natural immune system). There is enough evidence to fill several books, but my “Letter to a Holocaust Denier” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-holocaust-denier) is a good starting point.

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Smoothgrooves's avatar

Very interesting, thanks. I'm still struggling though with why we aren't seeing excess deaths in some countries with high vaccination rates. If the vaccines really are that toxic how can that be possible? Surely it should be a country wide phenomenon?

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Smoothgrooves's avatar

What is needed is some high quality and frequently updated data on non-covid excess mortality in the vaxxed population vs. the unvaxxed since the vaccination programs began, ideally covering the entire population and across multiple countries. It frustrates / puzzles me why this data doesn't appear to be available- unless I have missed it!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Good point, and I suspect that is being intentionally obfuscated!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I’d guess a combination of placebos to slow down the rate so it’s not as noticeable and delayed effects that will only manifest later (e.g., cancer due to the destruction of natural killer T-cells). Sterilization is also an anticipated bonus as per this oopsie video by Sir John Bell: https://www.bitchute.com/video/94NyKw1b6B2Q/

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PatriotInGibraltar's avatar

Last December, tiny Gibraltar shut down completely a few days before Christmas--we're talking 24-hour curfew that lasted for several months. Despite the sacrosanct notion of a 14-day transmission window, it wasn't until three weeks later, in mid-January that cases, and then deaths, skyrocketed. No one else, however, noticed that this should have been impossible if lockdowns actually worked.

The attitude prior to that deadly month had been one of smug pride at the fact that the country had only racked up a single COVID death in all of 2020. "Government has really done an excellent job on this." Funny how government always gets the credit here--I guess it's like handing out participation trophies. The cry of "do something!" is always made in a state of panic, and any government actions that resemble doing something qualify as "help."

Ironically, not one of these double- or triple-jabbed sheep will blame the government for coming down with the virus any more than you blame someone or some entity when you catch cold. Funny how that works, too. Keep an eye on the Rock--it's likely to serve as a case study for the rest of the world as this progresses.

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Mara's avatar

I have been taking note of Gibraltar since Jan this year, because they had hardly any CV prior to the rollout of the jabs. This article was written back in January, and is very interesting in the light of recent stats: https://medicalkidnap.com/2021/01/24/53-dead-in-gibraltar-in-10-days-after-experimental-pfizer-mrna-covid-injections-started/

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Alfie's avatar

Herr Eugyppius, a very short post, but perhaps your most powerful. You have boiled the collective insanity down to its essence.

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Daniel's avatar

What are the informed supposed to do? Just wait it out until this runs its course? But how many years of this until the average person realizes what is being done to them?

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Irena's avatar

This is no longer a public health matter. The problem, as far as I can tell, is that we (the unvaccinated) are being treated like draft dodgers. So, our governments are trying to punish us, and lots of people look down on us, or even hate us. Never mind that the war is unwinnable (can anyone even name the war goals anymore??), and that our participation in it wouldn't help matters and might just make them worse. I'm hoping that the hysteria dies down by the spring, and if not, that they'll at least have slightly less dangerous vaccines on offer (Valneva, I'm looking at you). I've had COVID and am naturally immune (confirmed by a PCR test and all that), so I have precisely zero need for any COVID vaccine. Medically, that is. But this isn't about your health or mine. So, I'm just trying to avoid being crippled or killed in this ridiculous, unwinnable war. How long the war lasts before they finally concede defeat (even if tacitly) is anyone's guess.

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greensocks's avatar

Well said. The draft dodge analogy is interesting.

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Irena's avatar

Yeah. At least in real wars, they don't draft children. Give it a couple of months, and they'll be after infants. Hey, they're already after pregnant women!

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greensocks's avatar

It really was an eye opener for me when they went after pregnant women. It was truly shocking that they pushed that one so hard.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

I question whether the hysteria will go away ever, the authorities have gotten powers beyond their wildest dreams with a willing populace driven by both fear and glee. In SF, there have been under 700 deaths marked Covid—and schools shut for a year, lockdowns, shelter in place, outdoor mask mandate (the only measure ever lifted), vax passport including in some suburbs, soon to be mandated vax in schools (I think 2023) , and very soon, vax passports for ages 5 and up. All and more will be mandated long after the virus is gone. Maybe elections are the next to go.

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Mercurio's avatar

Great historical inflections in society usually only take a commited 9-12% of the population acting with conviction to start the ball downhill. Leaders. Then the sleepers awaken to the realization they didn't even know things needed to change. Unfortunately, media/social media is a historically good amplifier of the somnambulistic trance. But it is also a force multiplier to the awakening. You can feel the pot reaching the boiling point. Hold the line.

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Mercurio's avatar

"They" can feel it boiling too. "They" know the 10% principle, too. They'll get increasingly desperate that they haven't yet co-opted that last hard line resistance. Their desperation will expose them. It already has to a great extent.

Again. Hold the line. Live the truth.

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Mercurio's avatar

Unfortunately. It won't be without cost to you. But, we have always stood on ground acquired at great cost. It's our turn.

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Guttermouth's avatar

This, a thousand times this.

Absolutely nothing is free, and we are entitled to nothing. We must protect, defend, and cherish what we value or it will be stolen from us in a heartbeat.

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Mercurio's avatar

Everybody please say a prayer for our friend, Paula. Those lungs have GOT to be a serious comorbidity. Not to mention what they do to her BMI!!

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NCmom's avatar

Good question - at least anecdotally I know FAR fewer people willing to get a booster than we’re willing to get the 1st (even among the elderly). In NC, excluding the elderly crowd, vaccinations basically stopped meaningfully progressing months ago (except the morons running to get their already immune 5-11 year olds vaccinated). There is still a strong control group here. There will be at least a similarly sized control group of those who only got the first two shots - many by March of last year. At some point the data becomes overwhelming.

Just look at how the data FINALLY broke through on the lab leak, outdoor masks, school closures. Progress is being made on the idiocy of indoor masks and child risk (of the much hyped but not real threat of not only deaths, but also long Covid).

Many things hinder the acknowledgement of actual data and outcomes. Lots of money at stake, lots of Democrat authoritarian power at stake. A ridiculously biased media. A mentally ill unthinking phobic plurality of society. Even still progress has been made.

Truthfully I was expecting somewhere between 15%-30% of sheepish parents to run out and get their little kids 5-11 vaccinated. I was happy to see in NC only 8% actually did run to get shot 1. While the numbers in that group will almost certainly go up, meaningfully, the halt of the OSHA mandate snd the reality that everyone knows young healthy people who have mysteriously dropped dead this year, as well as numerous vaccinated people with symptomatic infections, Lessing government force for vaccination and increasing resistance to something that is not working are good signs.

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Sorry - Far mor UNWILLING to get a booster, not willing. 🤦‍♀️

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Paula - whoever controls this bot - stop harassing me. I am documenting that your pathetic little Trojan horse linked bot is responding to my comments on multiple Substacks with great frequency. I will be reporting you to Substack customer service. You are targeting, harassing, and completely stupid. Go away loser.

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Soma187's avatar

Paula caught herpes ... thats why shes on this topic

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Susanna's avatar

NCMom - I am very very glad that there is a reasonable control group in NC (I lived there for 6 years - still miss it). However, progress has NOT been made on mask idiocy here in Washington State. And Oregon has an outdoor mask mandate. Schools are constantly in upheaval here because of onerous and overly - freaked out quarantine policies. Not only that, but someone on one of my substack's linked me to an estimate that Washington and Oregon have among the lowest estimated natural immunity in the country. We've been so locked down, so isolated, so separate, and so non-church-going (even before COVID my state wasn't much into church) that few of us have acquired immunity from the virus. I think this winter is going to be BAD here.

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Vanessa Hall's avatar

It's not bad here in the Spokane area. Quite a few of us don't wear masks, and even the major stores no longer have signs saying they are required. And lots of Christians here!!

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Charles Mccarville's avatar

I’m near Charlotte - I had no idea the childhood vaccination rate was so low here. I do hope the word is getting out despite the media.

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NoneOfThisIsReal's avatar

Deaths from blood toxicity, among the other blood clotting, brain and heart inflammation and other death by jab causes will begin to plague the multiply-boostered. Natural immunity will bring herd immunity to the world only when we knock off pushing drugs for big pharma so the elite ruling class investors' profits can soar.

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SimCS's avatar

It's almost as if (cue drumroll......) the vaccines/boosters DESTROY natural immunity.

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Florida Prophet's avatar

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement…the consequence of tampering with the body’s natural immunity. What’s worse, the purveyors of death double down with boosters rather than cancel the damn source of the death shot. Evil, plain and simple!

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Florida Prophet's avatar

Mankind’s capacity for denial is inestimable. Agenda-driven and greed-fueled, we have awakened to the capacity of the driven to wreak evil while pretending they are purveyors of good.

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Nat Hollywood's avatar

Classic “double down” when you know you’re wrong tactics. I’m reading the book “Empire of Pain” about the Sackler family that have been pushing prescription opioid painkillers and making billions of dollars in the process since the 1950’s and it’s apparent that they truly believe they are doing good and helping people. It seems to be that self deception is what drives “evil”. And this strange idea socialism... The repressed jungian shadow. It seems it is a potent aspect of the human psyche. Let’s just ignore the truth and push our story. The more others believe it the more true it will become. More and more I think it’s driven into the subconscious. The untrue becomes true. It seems like idiocy but I think it’s will full ignorance driven by the need to be a “good person”. I wish there were more corrupt politicians around tbh, ones that know what they’re doing. These brainwashed shadow selves are exceedingly dangerous.

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Candis's avatar

My two cents here is that an even bigger driver than the need to be a good person is the outright denial of authentic personal responsibility. Someone bigger, better, more "informed", makes the tough calls for me. I follow these "leaders" and yes, while I am praised by them for being "good", I have also relieved myself entirely of coming face to face with my shadows and ultimately, the super hard work of integrating them into my soul. Who has time for that shit anyway?

My "leaders" profit mightily from my acquiescence in a plethora of ways, for providing me with an exceedingly self righteous shield from facing the hard work of my own evolution, while I get to remain yet just another insufferable, inauthentic spiritual midget of the universe, relentlessly seeking out bigger fixes to feed my addiction.. hell my utter allegiance.. to the road to hell. In other words: FAIL.

As a whole, we are all more than complicit in this dance to one degree or another. We deny that at our own roadblocks.

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timmy100's avatar

In aviation there is a term called CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain. Usually when a pilot cannot see visual horizon and not paying attention to instruments. You can be in a steep spiraling decent and not even knowing it. You think you are flying level instead and nothing is wrong.

In a similar way, the vaccination related "instruments" are showing already the vaccination is not working and is dangerous to some people, but they are refusing to correct the course. In a matter of fact, they are taping over those instruments indicating danger and making even more dangerous moves. That is how crazy the situation really is!

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Ryk.'s avatar

Nicely put.

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Analyticalandcautious's avatar

powerful stats that confirm the folly. Like the guy complaining that hitting himself on the head isn't helping the headache - maybe try one more time and hope for a different result. This is perhaps largely suggestive of the recent findings that the S protein gets into the cells and inhibits DNA self-correcting repair processes (this was in-vitro, but does it happen in-vivo?) - hence diminishing the immune system as well as having long term negative impact on cells? So it is perhaps not an ADE or OAS type effect, but more of a pathogenic sabotage by the S protein?

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someothercat's avatar

You may be onto something there.

If one believes the conspiracy theory that the vaccine is about mass depopulation organized by a few elites, then I would suppose that these elites would protect themselves and their families from it. On that principle, the vaccine would probably have a negative effect limited to the vaccinated group. A relevant question is about blood transfers. Would the recipient of contaminated blood be contaminated ?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

As Barry noted elsewhere in this thread, we need to stop using their framing of “conspiracy theory.” Instead, we should start calling them “coincidence theorists” as it takes far more faith to believe in their poppycock than our evidence-based postulations.

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Tiago Antao's avatar

A correction: boosters have started in Portugal for more than a month. Cases are starting to spike. On cue with the typical winter/flu season

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eugyppius's avatar

you're right, now I see the Portugal vaccine data aggregated on Our World in Data hasn't been updated since September. I'll fix the text.

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JayBee's avatar

I have recently spoken to a friend of mine who is a renowned heart surgeon in Germany. I doubt we'll speak again soon, he is completely on message, although/because he didn't even know who Robert Malone is, that the gunk is indeed a gene therapy and not a vaccine, and that the FDA has two different protocols for them, nor what the ct number of the PCR tests mean....

He and the people in his Uniklinik got vaxxed very early, and he and most of his staff got their boosters in September already and are sooo happy about it.

As such, the current wave could well be due to those health care workers in the hospitals already. After all, half of the British hospitalised infected cases occurred whilst those people were in hospital (Germany seems to prefer flying blind with regard to such data, I guess).

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timmy100's avatar

The mental "looking like a moron and a clown"-injury would be just too great for them so they continue blindly to follow the wrong path. Vaccines are safe and effective, damn it!

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

[I stole it from someone else, I'm sure!] They're neither safe nor effective. They're not even vaccines!

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Delcina Skrubbs's avatar

The 'Will To Power' and the Susceptibility of the Masses

The Vertical Invasion of the Masses... Jose Ortega Y Gasset

What happens when the Barbarians at the Gate Are Your Own Leaders?

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