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“We have to tell the story differently,” a leading Green politician says. And therein lies the problem. They don't see the bankruptcy of 'the story' itself, only with the way it's been told (communicated). So, their solution? Expect them to put some really bright "lipstick on that pig and see if they can get it a date!"

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How many times have we heard this excuse trotted out from various parties in the UK - “We’re not getting our message across”. We understand your message very well, thank you, and we don’t like it.

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from the democrats in the US as well

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narcissists cannot compute rejection. (Lesson hard learned.) They just pretend with a different message but same intent.

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“Telling the story differently” is merely political Newspeak for “we need our friends in media to adopt some new propaganda”

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Yes, of course it is. It's always much easier to re-tread that tire than it is to invest in a new one...

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The Ministry of Truth is alive and well!

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Nail on head.

For example, what percentage of people do you think know the definitions of herd immunity and vaccine were changed in the still of the night?

This is exactly what they do. They eliminate history by eliminating references....so they can try and do the same shit that didn't work before.

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At least, in the case of 'vaccine', they did not change the legal definition, just their interpretation of the word. The US 9th District Court of Appeals has reminded them of that and opened the floodgates to civil/criminal litigation.

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Yes, specifically it excludes any "vaccines" that aren't sterilizing, which is most of them, from being forced on the public..Unless a vaccine prevents the spread of the disease, it is not a public health issue....and the Supreme Court has said that anyone can refuse treatment if there is no public health issue....

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And that suggests that the immunity granted by Congress to vaccine makers will not apply to non-sterilizing vaccines...

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Here’s the problem for Pfizer and the others. They signed a contract with the US government promising a vaccine that was “safe and effective,” but the products they provided were neither. That makes them vulnerable to charges of fraud, invalidating the immunity privilege. There are already cases in the courts making use of this approach.

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And you can refuse treatment in the US, though not necessarily in the military...in the EU, don't know...

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It was and is fraud calling these mRNA products vaccines. They have been used for 20 years in cancer research & virology & known as mRNA Transfections.. any PubMed search has decades of peer reviews papers about mRNA transfection.. failed gene therapy.. failed as cancer therapy.. unknown dose, unknown distribution & unknown duration... LNP delivery was legendary fail.. calling it vaccine was one more malevolent lie... Godfather of the science partner of Nobel winning pair..

real eye opener when Cullis says less than .01% cancer drugs reach the intended target.. pretty sure chemo factiod is @ 57..

https://rumble.com/v3q5vbq-2023-10-17-pieter-cullis-2022-study-hall-16-oct-2023-brief-twitch1953665426.html

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Have you tried finding the definition in dictionaries and online.

Looks like they changed it for all intents and purposes.

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The vaccinators changed it at least twice in the Webster's and medical dictionaries. But they were unable to change it in the law without legal precedent or passing legislation. This might well be their undoing in the US.

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Oh cool. Thanks for explaining, Danno

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interesting

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Last week marked the 75th anniversary of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty. The story I read, written a few years ago, detailing the attack linked to an investigative piece by the Chicago Tribune that debunked Israel's version. Allegedly. The Chicago Tribune removed it from its archives.

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And this has anything to do with German politics…?

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I was replying to a comment about eliminating history by eliminating references.

If you read the original statement, you would know that.

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I am not sure. Could be. Thanks for that.

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“We need different lies.”

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Welcome to the new lies ... same as the old lies. 🤣

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In the immortal words of Mary Poppins (from the movie), "A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down in a most delightful way." There just wasn't enough sugar on the original spoonful ...

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The great advantage of the Left has for decades been their ability to control and manipulate language. They are superb at it. Within my lifetime they have redefined or renamed and had widely accepted:

- Marriage is now between any combination of genders (real or imagined)

- Prostitution or whoring is now "sex work"

- Killing a child in the womb was abortion and now "reproductive healthcare"

- Man is now woman etc etc, we all know about that

- British now means 'British passport holder' even when that person might not even be able to speak the language and often doesn't, God help us

- Illegal immigrants in Britain are increasingly described by the stupid Americanism "undocumented immigrant"

- This is a good one: homosexuals were gays but now they're "men who have sex with men"

- Pride is now the LGBQWERTY types marching down the street or crawling on all fours in front of children and the public instead of a sin

Your point is correct though, they don't understand why the public would reject their political ideas because they, of course, are the experts and we are not. The plan is sound but the problem is convincing us. For decades the plan has been terrible but affluence and the remaining morals and culture have kept things jogging along well enough that the message was swallowed, albeit reluctantly sometimes. Now the plan has become so obviously terrible and the old culture and affluence are gone. The final failure is now the inability of the Left's linguistic tricks to persuade us to accept their politics.

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Well said.

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BOOM

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That's people who are so blind to reality as to be entirely certain that their worldview is the only right one — and an entirely right one, at that —. It descends from that that whoever disagrees must be disagreeing on account of their failure to understand the thing: maybe it wasn't communicated to them in the best way. Lol.

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I attended a conference on migration in London yesterday hosted by a pro-EU think-tank whose policy experts are cookie-cutter liberal establishment types.

And sure enough, most of the views of the panellists amounted to "We need a better message to convince the public of the benefits of migration! And more public spending!"

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An 'interesting' article in the Guardian yesterday basically saying that EU bureaucracy protects it from what the people really want. Democracy is great so long as you agree with us. Think differently and we'll label you un-democratic and far-right, meaning we have the right to undemocratically destroy you.

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Quite right and the problem is multi-national or trans national because it's the same ruling mindset and agenda of the globalists; think differently either as an individual or nation and we will use "democracy" or any other means to destroy you; So Macron , for example, is losing popularity and calls for a new election; why!? because, as before and in spite of a disgruntled populace, he knows he can count on the FEAR of change which is embedded in the French general population which has shown themselves to be collectively stupid and cowardly and afraid to stand up for their own sovereignty.

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I find the word democracy has to do a lot of heavy lifting for all the Western governments.

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This is precisely the story that the rightwing people's party in Switzerland told the voters when we had the referendums about joining that club. Back then it needed a bit of imagination to see how that construct would turn out, today it's obvious for everyone with eyes to see.

Things have changed in our politics as well however, I don't know what would happen if there was a renewed attempt to join. Recent votes have shown a lack of teeth in the populus.

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Wow that's quite a divide when you show the split on the map.

I say rejoice. This is a beachhead. Perhaps sanity can go on offense now?

I hope the same happens in the US.

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I looked at that map and thought, hmmm we saw this same graphic during covid too! The East Germans ain’t taking it anymore!

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They're not so invested in the 'social image management' as their wealthier, fatter cousins in the West. They won't vote against their own interests for the sake of 'likes' on social media.

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So, they are on their own side? How rational!

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🤞🏻

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On the surface it may be good news, but one has to remember this: the black in the map is the CDU, Merkels party, who were in power until 4 years ago and responsible for opening the borders to the world, and than in 2020 shutting in the citizens in their own homes, forcing to mask, and eventually to get jabbed.

If the CDU gets to power, they will either get into a coalition with the Greens, or with the SPD again, and it will be business as usual, as it has been since Merkel took power 20 years ago.

One could then say "new faces, the same old lies", but those people even look the same.

And on the EU level: the goal of the EU bureaucracy is to be a totalitarian, socialist federation.

This election does not change an iota of that goal.

The green agenda is just part of the means to reach that totalitarism.

They will not change that green agenda, just because EU citizens hate it. But even if they wouldchange it: they would just use a different tool to reach the goal of totalitarian EU socialism.

After all, they are trying mightily to get us into a war with Russia. And if that fails: the next pandemic is just around the corner.

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Structurally everything is terrible of course, and voting is not going to change any of the major forces responsible for the way that things are. I think the juggernaut is slowly but surely running out of steam, though – not even because we're winning, but more because it's losing. Corona was like a fast-burning microcosm of the same dynamic, perhaps.

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TBH, I would have said that already in 2008, and definitively in 2015.

But our societal ability to kick the can further down the road seems to be almost limitless.

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in retrospect 2008 was a very important turning point, though – in a way the Eurocrisis was the beginning of all this insanity. your instincts were totally right, there's just a lot more power in the system than any of us (or at least I myself) appreciated at the time.

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No doubt your sentiments were expressed by observers nearly as astute as yourself as Rome seemed to survive the fabled “barbarians at the gates” time after time. And, as we know the gates eventually collapsed.

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Rome always survived the enemy at the gates.

But it fell from the rot, the enemy within.

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Corona did everyone a favor by pulling back some of the curtain to show that corporations and bigwig politicians were in control and that most decisions were based on money, not scientific outcomes. But it has taken high rent, high food prices and high energy costs for most people to finally really wake up.

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and a whole helluva a lot of despair.

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'corporations' anagrams to 'corona psi rot'. It was always about the money.

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I may be wrong, can be but why I’m 150% convinced the now so beloved AfD ist just the other side off the old rotten coin we see since 2001 with it’s skyscraper in NYC. Sure fake news, aka illegal wars like against Serbia had been happened all the time before but the so called free market economy was still functioning because our societies had a comfortable living with some high quality productions. These production facilities are now leaving our region. Raw materials and energy prices leaving no other changes to produce compitative. So the path is clear, poor societies rebel, to stop them rebel you give them the party thy want. If them no change is happening and people rebel you do like Italy in 2001 June, at the G7. This is what the EU is about. It is set up to fail, like it currency. Once cash payment is gone then there is no way back.

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The AfD is not yet an homogenous party. Different factions are fighting each other, from the beginning of the party 10 years ago.

There is always a large part of the party who wants to be part of the current regime, be like the CDU of the 1990ies. Probably most of the Western part of the AfD is that.

Then there is a the Eastern part (Höcke, Krah), who want to become an alternative to the current system.

The system-conforming Western part is always wooed by the current regime, and the allure of making a lot of money as a politician.

They raised immediately their head on Sunday, with trying to Krah out.

The only strength the AfD really has is, paradoxically, because the current regime is so hateful and inept, that they fail to include the AfD. The hysteria of the government against the AfD makes it impossible for its members to become part of the system, and they appear like a real alternative.

If the current regime would include the AfD today, the AfD would not really be an opposition anymore, just part of the Uni-party.

But if they continue with their hysteria, and even become more violent, and keep excluding the AfD, the AfD will may be a real alternative, and an agent for change in a decade or two.

That is what happened to Trump: he was a "normal" part of the system, as his first administration showed.

But they are fighting him so hard, he may do some real changes in his next administration. Maybe.

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no, trump's a part of the system pretending to be an outsider. The cabal is running the "billionaire is a victim" game. 🙄 He's still bragging about OWS. Nope nope nope.

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The West Germans oversaw the liberation of the East Germans from an oppressive socialist state and then wonder why they don't vote for socialist political parties. So confusing.....

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Don't forget the East Germans initially liberated themselves by breaking down the dividing barrier.....and were not stopped by the East German police......it was a movement that had reached critical mass and a point of no return.

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This memory gives me comfort.

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You nailed it!

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I love the fact that politicians are so dumb that, when the voters don't vote for them, they say "oh, we must change how we put out the message" rather than thinking maybe it's the content of the message that the voters don't like!

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Not dumb! Stubbornly covetous of power.

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I don't know, it is really Catch 22, they are all such morons, but morons who are convinced they are brilliant, ala Dunning Kruger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect. I always say I'd rather have Joffrey Lannister, the pubescent sadistic budding psychopath king of Game of Thrones than these people, but I'm not sure. Malevolent psychopaths with megalomania or a marmocracy of those further emboldened (by having purged all the religious, the high IQ, and the critical thinkers) to see themselves as cognitively superior? One crazed evil ruler, however, is easier to take down, than vast bureaucracies of dimwitted compliant mall cop control freaks. It is a conundrum. Or is the incompetence part of the agenda???

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Greens? Would you mind telling me how child slave labor making your electric vehicles and running your surveillance centers is "green"? Could you explain how your totalitarian 15 mins. cities full of toxic cameras and fake food is part of a "green" platform? Can you tell me how injecting people with poison death shots became part of the "green" agenda. When I was a green I don't remember killing and enslaving people was a worthy goal. Why did that change? Ringing this beautiful planet in your toxic surveillance soup of 4, 5, and 6 G is killing every form of life on this planet. You whole heartedly support wars. Did you not know that the military is the largest polluter on the planet? And you think other people don't see through you? You think we want this? We don't!

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"Did you not know that the military is the largest polluter on the planet?"

That's the elephant in the room for the Democrat party in the USA.

The war in Ukraine has been an environmental catastrophe, yet they want to go full speed ahead with it?!!

They are rank hypocrites and/or idiots.

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Not idiots. I have come to the conclusion they want you to believe they're idiots because it lulls people into apathy instead of lighting a fire in them. Biden is the figurehead idiot. They seem less lethal that way. But if an equivalent amount of"good" had been accomplished as the destruction and decay of the past 3 years, it would be considered the most successful party in history. It is statistically impossible this administration has made (imo) blunders 100% of the time. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It IS the plan.

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Astute comment. Thank you.

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Very astutely stated!

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Tony, Thank you for your kind words. I can only assume that the top"green" people are either WEF (many of them acknowledge this connection) or IC. Their values align perfectly with these types of organizations. I understood that actual green party members cared about class and stood against oppression. These people cheered when a black woman carrying her child had her faced smashed into the floor of the subway station by cops in NY. Hmmm.... Just like their masters they say they care about social justice. I think that is the last thing they care about!

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Excellent comment

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carily, thank you! And I'll add one last thing. Look at the "leadership" of the WEF--a bunch of old white men who are more wealthy than God. Yet these people are pushing -- Diversity! Sure!!!

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The deck chairs are being rearranged. Never mind the ice cold water covering your ankles.

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There is only "criminal A" and he is a "D."

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The support of the ADF no matter what they throw at them is reminiscent of Trump. There are a lot of people who can't stand Trump, who are now absolutely committed to voting for him no matter what. The Russia China collusion is so similar also. Where are the hookers? It's not salacious enough.

The Western world is "fortified for democracy"™ so it's really hard for anyone on the right to win and you know the ones in power are going to pull out all the stops now. I would imagine they have a great deal of fear about what happens to them if they lose. I'm not sure if it's justified though. I hope it is.

Here in the US, if the election were even moderately fair, Trump takes everything but I still think the election will be so blatantly stolen that you're going to be able to see the corruption from Mars. These people cannot conceive of losing, they are the enlightened chosen ones, it is not possible for them, it is not something that can happen. And that's why they're going to be the first one to drop nukes on Russia.

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I share your concern here in the US the 2024 general election outcome will be rigged, manipulated and fixed to an extent never before seen in American history.

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that is what I am expecting. and the media and the leftist lapdogs or whatever you want to think of them, their minions and messengers will continue to spread their hate propaganda, and most certainly their loved for all things progressive.

It is nauseating.

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They are fascists, dressed up as 'leftists'.

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It will not be easy for them - a lot are laser focussed on this problem. And no way, can they cover up a landslide for DJT, which it might well become.

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There may be too many Trump voters to rig it. Recall that the cheating effort was directed at a few urban areas in the swing states by voting empty ballots (mail-in ballots for registered voters who didn't actually vote) for the Democrats. While difficult to prove, even that form of ballot box stuffing arouses suspicion (especially when you get nearly 100% turnout in certain precincts, and nearly 100% of those mail-in votes are for Biden). If the election rolls are cleaned up (dead people and folks who moved away are de-registered), and enough people actually vote, there will be too few empty ballots left to change the result. Also, it only takes 2 or 3 "blue" states turning red to ruin the riggers' plans.

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All Trump has to do is get enough votes over the Margin of Fraud.

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If that is even possible…

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The Dems follow Alinsky.. " accuse your enemy of what you are doing". Are they telegraphing that Joe won't leave the WH after the election because he can't hand over"democracy" to a convicted felon? Will he(they.. Not pronoun... They meaning whoever's really running the country) use " insurrection" to save our democracy? Mostly peaceful protestors, like BLM and Antifa? Radicalized old ladies and college students? Criminally insane illegals? The wokified military? All of the above?

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I fear you may be right, though I pray that you are wrong....

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What those people don’t seem to understand is that young voters in general (myself included even if I am not German nor European) really care about virtue signaling anymore, no young person in their right mind believes in democracy or cares for it more than we care about stability and prosperity, the western liberal democratic cultural conception has consistently undermined and attacked that very stability and prosperity which young, mentally healthy, and overall well meaning citizen populations value in the first place.

What they don’t understand is that young people don’t care about immigration and “helping the refugees” and “cultural diversity” more than they care about having high trust societies and functional institutions as well as stable economic models, the recent elections show this and now the establishment and the current ruling classes will try to somehow delegitimize these elections, write this down: the German and French governments will do something to make the popular and “democratically legitimate right wing” look illegitimate enough to try and justify their actions when they attempt to physically intervene and remove them from power.

I am for my part convinced that if one ask the average young person today “if you had to give up your right to vote and a democratic state in return for living in a highly competent monarchy or some other form of authoritarian state whose interests are aligned to those of the population they rule over, would you do it?” I believe the answer would be a resounding “yes”, young people, and in fact most people, don’t care about voting, they care about having a future they can reasonably obtain through honest effort: and that means a stable economy, a strong culture, a high level of social trust and reasonable laws.

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Yes of course, no one ever loved democracy for its own sake. If we even ever loved it at all it was because it stabilised wealth and order without repression. If both wealth and order decline significantly whither the vote and whither the voter?

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"If we even ever loved it at all it was because it stabilised wealth and order without repression."

Exactly.

In the USA nowadays the establishment tells you that "democracy" means you get to vote to re-elect a corrupt old incompetent dipshit who will pile your country ever-higher in debt and foment wars around the world. Oh, yeah: And your standard of living will continue to drop year by year. And your Constitutional "rights" won't be respected.

Who needs that awfulness?!!

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Only 1 out of our 6 children bothered to use their vote Sunday! They are aged 17-27 and have no interest in politics! That is most probably due to how politicians act than any other reason as they say one thing and do another!

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In a way that is in fact true: most people don’t have the will, time, means or motive to actively pursue the kind of knowledge and understanding necessary to actively engage in politics in any meaningful way, on the other hand, everyone cares about things when they start to affect them and their personal lives, it isn’t maybe that your children do not care about politics in as much as they do not see themselves largely affected by political developments, of course this can be due to a myriad of factors: maybe the locality in which they live isn’t that affected, take it with a grain of salt for I am not a German nor a Frenchmen nor an English man and this is something I merely heard and that is that, for example: the region of Bavaria for the most part is relatively unaffected by broader German politics in comparison to places like Berlin or the Rhine, hence if they do not perceive politics as something that actively weights on their lives they will not find motive to look more into it, or maybe it is that they don’t see a sense in why they should vote or not, as they do not perceive any meaningful political change or development as a result of their political act of voting, again I am merely speculating and I won’t pretend to know your children better than you do.

My point is merely that more than any sort of political involvement or development people, specially young people, care much more about stability both political and economical, security both legal and physical as well as social trust and societal cohesion than any sort of broad political system, party or action, you may say your young do not care about politics and you’d be right but I find it reasonable to assume that they care about their future and their prospects, even if it isn’t expressed in the manner of voting or not.

Be assured that the more people are negatively affected by political developments not only in material senses but also cultural, spiritual and social senses, the more you will find that they do in fact care even if they may be at a loss in how to express such a thing.

Again I mean no disrespect towards you and I do not mean to know your children or country better than you yourself do.

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Or actively did not vote because they do not believe in the System. Maybe, and hopefully, they will realise revolt is the only method of change now.

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More likely the reason as all but the youngest and oldest have voted in the past.

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Don’t forget they have been mis-educated by the Establishment in the decades leading up to the present. They were taught that the elites know best but their masters now admonish them to not believe their lying eyes. Hence the confusiob.

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Check out Singapore. It's the model for a wealthy, peaceful, and stable non-democratic country. One with plenty of economic opportunities.

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No thanks. The state controls your life.

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The state controls your life in every developed country anyway, so what's your point? If you want to live where the state won't bother you, you can try herding yaks in Outer Mongolia. I was told the following by a very smart person a decade ago, but I dismissed it. Now I think it's likely: "You don't see it yet, but democracy is over. Soon you will need to choose whether you want to live in a Left-wing dictatorship or a Right-wing dictatorship."

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this speaks to the sheer success of the cabal's programming and manipulations to throw everyone into survival mode 24 / 7. People in survival mode don't think, at all. That is actually the goal. They can then promise "safety" and voila everyone bends the knee. This is exactly what we must NOT do. We need to get ourselves out of survival mode -- the cabal are certainly never going to help us with this. We're the ones who need to build the new noncorrupt systems we need.

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Not exactly, because the people in charge as of the moment cannot deliver on that safety, and democratic institutions do not in fact provide a system of checks and balances but rather a over complicated system ruled by a demagogue and burocrata class which has no incentive to rule in accordance to the wishes and aspirations of their own citizens but instead every incentive to disregard those citizens.

The reason why young people like me would 100% support a dictatorship or monarchy of “our side” and abolish any and all democratic institutions is because in practice we would not lose freedom(for we cannot lose what we did not in practice had in the first place) but instead obtain freedom for our interest groups over those of our enemies, tribalism and in group thinking are, at the end of the day, parts of human nature and western peoples cannot and should not be judged for acting accordingly

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you mistake the false "leadership" of the "democratic institutions" as the real power. They are not. They are puppets of the real string pullers -- the globalists -- who are already your masters. You're mistaken thinking you would gain / keep your freedom by dispensing with the charade of "democracy" if you embrace the replacement offered by the cabal. You would just be giving more power to their already existing domination and everything for you would get much worse. It's the cabal who would engineer this "safety" ruse, not the "democratic institutions." They're orchestrating all the chaos and pain -- including creating "enemies," stoking "tribalism" and other divides -- waiting for the right time to come out from behind their rapidly shredding curtains. They run the whole game. Journalist Whitney Webb describes this exact dynamic happening right now in Argentina ...

Whitney Webb: On creating the destabilization and desperation to get people to onboard the systems they create

https://youtu.be/Kr8wZyd4t8E?si=6XVMkn7J-Cw_XrOv

Full interview

https://youtu.be/_trBBunj2WI?si=i4HLXiNqushtiFTI

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Whitney also has what I agree is the solution: LOCAL empowerment, local democracy.

https://rumble.com/v47ywg8-theyre-hiding-this-about-epstein-whitney-webb-explosive-interview-stay-free.html

Whitney:

"Where the hope for anti-establishmentism lies is with regular people building alternatives to the establishment. The only way to get out of this mess with where the global power is taking us really comes down to people building alternative systems and divesting from the establishment as much as possible, so that we’re not dependent on these systems they’re trying to force us into. The only way to really do that is to build something at the local level and actually actively create something new.

"Taking individual responsibility and accountability in community building ourselves. We don’t need them they need us. Us little people actually creating something. Something else so that you can say 'no I’m not going to participate in this crap authoritarian system. I’m going to participate in this system instead.' And we have to build that.”

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You’re describing the Jeffersonian ideals basically and while I do understand why this would be appealing to some the fact of the matter is that an overly localized society is much easier to divide and conquer than a centralized aristocratic and authoritarian system which can openly go against the wills of an establishment, I am not agreeing to the current ruling classes or saying people should give them more power, I am recognizing the fact that there always will be a ruling class hence it should be competent, moral and nationalistic one instead of a incompetent, immoral and globalistic one, in short: I am not defending the establishment and the ruling class which now rules it, I am defending the establishment of a new ruling class that is benevolent and competent instead of malevolent and incompetent.

That’s all there is to it.

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I disagree with your premise that there will always be a ruling class. That's exactly the program / belief the cabal create and disseminate through their owned media, movies, stories, "news." You are either choosing to hold your own energy and empower yourself and your own self-determination, or you are giving your power away. It's a choice. It is the time on earth when we realize this and empower our individual selves and take back the power given over to false "authorities" -- when you are not holding your own energy and directing it where you want it to go, others will use it. And they are. Today's "competent moral" authorities are tomorrow's tyrants. As a young person you have surely seen first hand "favor" turn on a dime with cancel culture. The lesson we must learn today is that we individuals are the powerful "competent moral" ones we've been waiting for and we must build the world we choose to live in all on our own. It's actual work. We need to do it.

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Bravo!

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> Aside from a the urban centres, German voters are no longer divided about whether the right or the left represents the best path forward for the nation. Instead, they are divided about which flavour of “the right” they prefer, with the Union parties continuing to command the plurality of support in the West, and the AfD becoming overwhelmingly the choice of the East.

It's kinda funny that the right half of the country votes right and the left half of the country votes left

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Save yourself Europe!

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"“At the same time, however, it is also important that we do our work to ensure that our country becomes modern and moves forward.”

The implication being that conservative classical liberal ideas are old-fashioned and backwards-looking.

'“We have overestimated the willingness to change,” Green veteran politician Jürgen Trittin said.'

More accurately, they've overestimated the willingness to commit suicide by believing in the climate change unicorn.

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Become modern by going back to nuclear power and controlled/sensible legal immigration for starters.

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👏 so true.

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Is it possible that the East Germans, having experienced first-hand what left-wing fascism looks like, are voting for the AfD because they know that in the modern world it’s the left, not the right, that represents the greatest threat to free thought, intellectual inquiry, religious freedom, and scientific advancement?

I’m asking this question as a citizen of the US of A, who doesn’t pretend to understand the inner workings of the German government and certainly not the EU. I do sense, though, that the mini-revolution of these EU votes might be a harbinger of bigger things to come in Europe and here in former British Colonies in North America. I would suggest you keep your eyes on electoral map of US states on Nov. 5th. You may see a sea of red that’ll send tsunami-like shock waves across the pond!

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>left wing fascism

The word you want is totalitarianism, not fascism. Fascism has specific ideological and policy content. It can not be left wing. Totalitarianism, however, is a governance style, rather than an ideology so can be safely called left or right.

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I respectfully disagree. Extreme left-wing groups these days show all the hallmarks of fascism — promotion of a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader or leaders, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Fascism can come from the left as well as the right.

In fact, there are those that make the argument that National Socialism was left wing. Truth is when you get to the extreme left or the extreme right you are in about the same place. The similarities are much greater than the differences.

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Exactly. instead of thinking of it linearly, with one extreme on the right and one on the left, I think of it as circular. Extreme right and extreme left meet at a point of fascism.

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The very definition of fascism is the merging of Corporate and State power. This is exactly what is happening now (and has been for a while), so whatever they call themselves, they are under fascistic power.

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Yes, "'liberal' fascism."

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Let me explain something that may not be understood by non-US readers, for some reason in recent years, US election maps have used red to denote Republican votes and blue to represent Democratic votes. In a logical world it would be the opposite, since red is the color usually associated with socialism and communism, and blue, in the US, is associated with preserving the Union, which the Republicans did over Democratic opposition in the late rebellion of 1861!

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That's the War of Northern Aggression to you.

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Actually the War of Southern Aggression. Who fired the first shot?

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Actually, the first shots were fired in Baltimore by the Massachusetts troops on their way to Washington to support Lincoln’s planned invasion of the South. There were zero casualties at Fort Sumter.

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Lincoln did not plan an invasion of the South. He simply asserted federal authority over federal property in the South. In the case referred to it was Ft. Sumter. Were the shots you referred in Baltimore ones that were to protect the president from the assassination plot in that city? You do know some southerners tried to kill him before he could take office?

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Eerily similar to blaming Russia for the current war. Back someone into a corner and and poke them enough and they will try to lunch their way out. First punch/shot isn’t the entire story.

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Let’s get to the heart of it, my ancestors correctly referred to it as the Great Slaveholders Rebellion. The Democratic Party was, as usual, on the wrong side of history. There were some War Democrats in the North, but they usually ran on fusion “Union” tickets with Republicans.

See: https://78ohio.org/fellow-southerners/

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I too think this is remarkable

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And the Union’s response to the Southern Secession concentrated power in Washington which made the oppression of liberty we are experiencing today possible.

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Even if you think the USSR is left-wing fascism (which is hard, given there were no Corporations in the USSR), there is no way on earth that they would have unleashed a deadly, genetic injection on their populations; all the while assuring them it was a 'safe and effective' vaccine.

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That only proves that the USSR was more nationalist than admitted and the USA is more internationalist than admitted. Strange, since nationism vs international is one of the main distinctions between fascists and communists. The Chinese Communist Party is now almost Fully Fascist. In fact they purposely transitioned from Communust to Fascist over the last 40 years

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Not sure about that last assertion.

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Pray that this is one of the first of many dominoes.

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Own goal: Greens lower voting age, AfD benefits.

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