They are just trying really hard to encourage another variant to work around with another failed method like this. Honestly, these folks, the stupidity, the hubris...
The worries about the shots encouraging new and more dangerous variants were based on the idea the shots were effective. In reality, new variants were just an excuse for how obviously ineffective the shots have been.
Oh, my understanding was that if they were leaky (only partly effective), they would encourage the new variants. And now this would be another, presumably super leaky and only 0-12% effective type of vaccine?- thereby encouraging new variants?
If you call it a leaky vaccine, it still assumes it did something to help people against the virus. I don't think the shots ever did anything positive. Pfizer tried to hide their data for 75 years. Did they want to hide it because of issues with safety claims, effectiveness claims, or both?
Lucky for me I live in Canada and don't have to worry about three variants ,but if you live in Germany you have to look out for three variants .The Nr. one variant makes you kabutt .The Nr. two variant makes you ka butter and the number three variant makes .you ka fett .
Two variants are easy to detect .The up and down variants .You have the up variant if you have holes in your head .You have the down variant if you have holes in your socks .
Well, since we're in the era of everyone's-pet-project-getting-approved, the nasal delivery crowd is gnawing at their cage. The gold at the end of the rainbow is actually brain access via the nose cribiform plate --- mucosal immunity is just a convenient-to-have selling point at this point in time.
Here's a stroll through that history, plus adeno history thrown in:
My question is: if respiratory viruses routinely infect the mucosal system via the nose, wouldn’t viruses and perhaps other things be gaining access to the brain this way? Wouldn’t it be a somewhat normal outcome that there is some contamination of the brain?
Unfortunately, we're outside of the realm of somewhat-normal when encountering a heavily modified mix of organisms, molecules, and tricks that are based on 30 years of worldwide efforts to navigate past the body's natural barriers by taking nature's own mechanisms and reorganizing them in favor of that goal.
The somewhat-normal situation is also fascinating, because there's still much that we don't know (unknown unknowns, to those operating with more assurance than sense). For instance, it was only recently discovered that the brain has its own nest of immune defense cells - whereas previously we were assuming that they magically teleported there.
When you consider all of the brain-based pathologies that we consider part of everyday life -- tired, depressed, hard to remember -- this might edge closer to what you are asking, about the degree to which things have access to the brain. Is it the exception or the rule? Many viruses are neurotropic, but what they're actually doing, when, and where is a black box.
Yes, possibly a matter of degree … a natural infection results in limited quantity of viruses and most are handled in the mucosal system but perhaps a few would find pathway to the brain … snorting AstraZeneca however is an overwhelming dose of (attenuated) virus and who knows what else.
What I am failing to appreciate is just how STUPID and ARROGANT immunologists can be … unbelievable how little they know and how they are charging in the dark at full speed across an effective highway of potential disasters. I am a layperson. When I read about the immune system I know two things … 1) it is not the outcome of randomized events but the brilliant handiwork of Someone and 2) you better be sore you know what you are doing before you lay even a finger on it because there are so many moving parts all interconnected. Because I am on the outside, these two things are wildly obvious and I am appropriately horrified at the idea of injecting vials of adjuvants, man made chemicals and mRNA sequence instructions directly into the bloodstream. HORRIFIED. The level of hubris to actually do that like you know the smallest thing about what it will ultimately cause is … sighing …
Agree on the potential for future disasters. Consider the fact that we are into the third year of what is likely the first (widespread) genetically engineered pandemic ever to afflict the whole world. By official counts, it killed millions and did further damage on a scale only exceeded by mankind's worst wars. Yet the pathogen involved is rather tame, compared to the worst that Nature (and now Man) can perpetrate. What has been apocalyptic [science] fiction for decades, the appalling prospect of a plague that kills off a large fraction of humanity is already well within reach, I suspect.
And motives don't matter. An academic research project getting loose, or a terrorist's deliberate attempt to eradicate a targeted genome, all pose a risk, whether a bad cold or a Captain Trips that wipes out nearly everyone. I'm sure that some precautions are taken, but I place no more trust in them than I would have in whoever the idiot was who brought the rabbit to Australia, or the man who got the brilliant idea to cross African and Brazilian bees.
The current WHO power grab attempt notwithstanding, it's a fact that tinkering with pathogens continues apace all over the globe, and realistically there's not a damn thing that can be done to halt it, surely not with present institutions and probably not even under the the wettest dreams of the WEF cabal.
This is why we need to keep talking about these things to people - here and wherever else.
There are some fundamental differences in reasoning that enable Reasonableness / Critical thinking / Appreciation of complexity and nature / Awareness of lab dangers
vs
Arrogance
and-or
Short-sightedness / Lack of critical thinking / Anthropocentric reasoning / Simply being uninformed
Results matter more than intentions. Yet our society refuses to hold leadership to the only standard leaders should be held to: their effectiveness (which is measured in results). Why do so many policies exist that continuously have bad results?
This problem is easily solvable. We need to be a results-driven society once again. Intentions irrelevant, we need to demand results with receipts.
I was involved in a scientific research program, where for the past 2 years we researched the best delivery methods, and which segment of the population would benefit the most. We discovered, through human trials, that the best method for inducing long term, proper immunity, to the whole virus would be if the segment of society involved in the current vaccination scheme would shove their vaccines up their ass.
If I recall correctly, the highest efficacy was from the CEO's and upper management of the pharma corps doing the same, but by first inserting it into the base of a giant spike-studded buttplug covered in pepper spray and drain cleaner, then sealed with super glue.
Actually, the best nasal vaccine exists since millions of years ago: its called life. As you live every minute you inhale millions of viruses that your magnificent inmune system turns into super effective protection. Using said method of immunization when this thing began i immediately went to the market. And lo and behold, since then i am perfectly healthy.. no covid..
I'm sure it's been researched. SARS-CoV-2 can infect the intestine. I'm not sure how common. I make the suppository supposition that there might be untoward effects. For example, in my own personal experience, my lower digestive tract already does a more than capable emulation of a paper mill. I prefer not to imagine what would occur if my bowel were doing the equivalent of coughing and sneezing. 🤡
Are we to believe 30 unvaccinated actually offered themselves up to snort this poison right into and up their nose near their brain when they had the good sense to stay away from the shot!! Love to see these 30 people and interview them. We’re they forced??? We’re they in prison and had no choice and we’re coerced?? Worse yet did they go get them out of orphanages like Fauci did back in 80,s?? We need to find out. I truly want to hear from these 30 people. If they are even still alive.
In a lot of these studies people who have had a single shot in a two shot series are counted as unvaccinated. Literally, they are counted as unvaccinated. I would bet that that is the case here; that the "unvaccinated" people in this study have had one shot.
They do count them as unvaxxed in their stats to make it look like the unvaxxed are still hospitalized and dying of covid. But I doubt they would use partially vaxxed here as any antibodies they detected could be from that first shot of the unfinished series. Or maybe they did and hoped that would give them higher antibody numbers in their data (as if antibody levels mean anything). But if they did use partially vaxxed, that would be an obviously glaring error in their study design.
Maybe even: the entire vaccination project generally (or at best, with very few exceptions) is a top-to-bottom pharmaceutical scam? Research the childhood vaccination schedule, health outcomes, VAERS reports and statistics… et al.
At the moment, the optics really aren’t great relative to anything the pharma industry and governments are doing, or have been doing, in collaboration with each other… for sometime now.
This sh|tshow is creating multiple generations of profoundly skeptical “healthcare” consumers, and I love to see it.
"Nasal sprays are advantageous for vaccinating mannequins and other inanimate objects, which do not have bloodstreams and cannot receive intramuscular injections."
Why ANYONE would volunteer for this shit after everything coming out about the unknowns & the known dangers now is beyond me. Especially anyone unvax’d.
"Probably the entire influenza vaccination project is a top-to-bottom pharmaceutical scam."
Ya think?!
Well said! I take it one step farther, ALL vaccines are drug company scams. This is coming from someone who along with her mother took part in the polio vaccine trials; both the Salk and Sabin versions, she died, I didn't.
Introducing small doses of environmental pathogens via your fingernails, in order to expose and strengthen your immune system. Sound science. I doubt NIH will fund a study, though.
Your child probably is immune. I saw an article somewhere recently that children aren't developing the immunity they should because they aren't allowed to play outside in the dirt anymore.
This is certainly the case. I am a teacher and am a parent and at school/in kindergarten we usually have these infection waves at the beginning of the school year where everybody catches a cold or some stomach flu bug...after the lockdowns, we had them immediately and much, much worse than we usually do. And then we had these many and severe cases of rsv, not to speak of the cases of hepatitis in children that were thought to be linked to a lack of exposure to adenoviruses. rsIsolating kids from human contact (and the dirt) was totally counterproductive.
I suppose it's more common to get fungus and bacterial infections from dirt, which may provide some immunity from that, but according to this article there are many RNA viruses in dirt, some of which may infect animals.
If children get immune from yrusses ,if playing in the dirt ,than we all should do it ,young and old . If the ground is frozen in the winter can we still get healthy by not using the shower for the winter time ?
Well, if you're picking your butt I would not pick your nose right afterwards without washing your hands first. There's no shortage of toilet paper where I am.
Because if you want something badly enough and “BELIEVE(!!!)” you can make anything come true. The bucketload of arrogant stupidity in that one man is enough to nauseate me
Lauterbach is busy pussiling over how to fix the broken pipes .How can poor Lauterbach make spray if the gas pipes are broken .? Did Lauterbach know gas can't come out if the Russkies don't put any gas in on their side ?
It's time to leave the nose alone already I see people running around with noses swollen like giant cucumbers .Now masks will have to be made many times larger ,at a time of global shortages . Not of swollen noses but of cotton in china .
That sounds exciting, a bit like blocking the mTOR cellular-growth signal in mosquitoes, releasing them in Brazil, and then years down the line noticing that microcephaly Zika babies have mTOR defects but never mentioning the mosquitoes. https://medquotes.substack.com/p/enthusiasm-wrecking-ball-
Not surprised. The nasal mucosa has intrinsic defense mechanisms against viral entry, which probably blocks the modified adenoviruses to a large extent.
I can't believe they are still trying to invent new vaccines against the Omikron cold, though. Idiotic....
Adjuvants are just one method. The receptors that are targeted by spike are dense in the cribiform plate region and facilitate BBB crossing. Arginine-rich motifs also permeate the BBB. Adenos are also neurotropic and thus a fine-tuned favorite tool to get past the BBB.
But the mRNA are even more pointless, as they only have one antigen. The whole concept is pointless for a quickly mutating virus, and it was pointless from the beginning, and everyone with knowledge in immunology knew it.
The "pointless" indictment can be leveled against a great many medical interventions. Already on my "Why the hell did I ever use this product?" list are pneumonia or flu vaccines and statins (for those with "high cholesterol.") And that's not even to say a drug is ineffective. For example, that shot may really produce antibodies or the statin reduces LDL numbers. But the relevant information, looking at all-cause morbidity or mortality for several years, often shows little net benefit. And these are the questions that Pharma and your captured MD would rather a patient not ask.
Disagree partially. With the disclaimer that I am just a layman, as I understand it, the mRNA does what it's designed to (makes cells produce a certain protein). These products are problematic because of rapidly ebbing efficacy (they produced less target protein with repeated doses) and more importantly, that they have dangerous side effects. While the analogy is not perfect, consider this one: many drugs in history were effective, but they fell out of use because a toxic or fatal dose was not much more than the typical effective dose. It wasn't "pointless" to use them, but at some point, the risk/reward becomes unacceptable.
No, the side effects or efficiency is not the issue why they were pointless all along.
The issue is: we have a virus which mutates quickly.
If you give a vaccine which targets only a few antigens on the Spike protein, the virus will very quickly mutate those antigens so that the antibodies elicited by the vaccine are useless, possibly even worse than useless.
All that would happen is that we get new variants.
If you get immune by the whole virus, or a vaccine containing the whole virus, you produce antibodies against many different antigens. In the Corona case, it would also be to other proteins, not yet Spike.
The virus then has it much harder to mutate enough to escape your antibodies. You will have a much better chance to be immune.
And this is also why the non vaccinated who encountered CoV-19 before have a much better chance to be immune against other variants.
This is why the succesful vaccines, e.g. smallpox or measles, are all containing the whole virus.
Not to fear, the valiant FDA will approve it anyway if not because it works, but to keep big pharma's fraudulent drugs alive and profitable. Maybe they should have sniffed-up 42 mice since that breed of willing volunteer has moved ahead of humans as the basis for vaccine/mRNA injection trials.
They’ll push it through one way or another. How did these 2 get through? Wouldn’t trust the research further than I could throw it, the nearest trash can.
‘Despite AZ's troubles, Bharat Biotech of India and CanSino Biologics of China have scored approvals in their respective countries for their nasal COVID-19 vaccines.’
It appears that the body's nasal/pharyngeal immune system is knocking hell out of the adenovirus that the vector is trying to introduce, as it has evolved to do in healthy people.
You don’t happen to have a handsome pristine teenage son, do you? I worry about the prospects for my pureblood teenage daughter as all her male peers are vaxxed…
"Forty-Two Volunteers Snort AstraZeneca Intramuscular Vector Vaccine, Fail to Develop Mucosal Immunity" Then... APPROVED!
Wondering about adverse events, shedding with this.....Oh that's right, they don't bother to look ....
They are just trying really hard to encourage another variant to work around with another failed method like this. Honestly, these folks, the stupidity, the hubris...
probably trying to use up all the crap they have in stock
Ha ha next they will be advising us to put it in our socks! They GOTTA MOVE PRODUCT l!!
i wonder how many have already expired and are still being pushed ! no way that thing is going into my home made socks LOL
The worries about the shots encouraging new and more dangerous variants were based on the idea the shots were effective. In reality, new variants were just an excuse for how obviously ineffective the shots have been.
Oh, my understanding was that if they were leaky (only partly effective), they would encourage the new variants. And now this would be another, presumably super leaky and only 0-12% effective type of vaccine?- thereby encouraging new variants?
If you call it a leaky vaccine, it still assumes it did something to help people against the virus. I don't think the shots ever did anything positive. Pfizer tried to hide their data for 75 years. Did they want to hide it because of issues with safety claims, effectiveness claims, or both?
I hate that term leaky , it’s inappropriate.
Recent Geert VDB piece, entitled 'It is 5 past 12!'.
He is in no doubt that it's the shots that promote immune escape and that we will soon see mass ADE.
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/it-is-5-past-12
That is the problem with GVB. He is in No doubt, which is deeply unscientific.
That is a well titled article...
I suspect they are desperate to encourage the deadly mutation.
We are on the cusp of a financial explosion -- the UK bond market was about to blow up two weeks ago but the BOE rescued it...
We need this Devil Covid -- or else
https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220
Lucky for me I live in Canada and don't have to worry about three variants ,but if you live in Germany you have to look out for three variants .The Nr. one variant makes you kabutt .The Nr. two variant makes you ka butter and the number three variant makes .you ka fett .
Warning,only German speaking Germans ,may understand the above warning .
Two variants are easy to detect .The up and down variants .You have the up variant if you have holes in your head .You have the down variant if you have holes in your socks .
I thought you had the down variant if you had holes in your pillow.
...... the brilliance, the infallibility, the paycheck ........
I read in some sub stack ,that after Fausi retires,he wants to become adviser to the Pope .
Things have gotten so absurd that satire is indistinguishable from reality.
They are trying their best to prove Geert right!
stomach cancer to follow
God help these TPS. Straight from the nose to the brain.
Except in the case of these volunteers, who apparently had little brain to target from the offset
They will get free shots for the rest of their lives . Than rest in peace .
Or they do, as that's all part of their plan, but don't want us to know. I'm not putting it past them.
Hey, that’s more than 8 and 10 mice in bivalent booster trials by Pfizer and Moderna
Well, since we're in the era of everyone's-pet-project-getting-approved, the nasal delivery crowd is gnawing at their cage. The gold at the end of the rainbow is actually brain access via the nose cribiform plate --- mucosal immunity is just a convenient-to-have selling point at this point in time.
Here's a stroll through that history, plus adeno history thrown in:
https://medquotes.substack.com/p/to-the-nose-and-beyond-ii
https://medquotes.substack.com/p/adenovirus-vectors
My question is: if respiratory viruses routinely infect the mucosal system via the nose, wouldn’t viruses and perhaps other things be gaining access to the brain this way? Wouldn’t it be a somewhat normal outcome that there is some contamination of the brain?
Unfortunately, we're outside of the realm of somewhat-normal when encountering a heavily modified mix of organisms, molecules, and tricks that are based on 30 years of worldwide efforts to navigate past the body's natural barriers by taking nature's own mechanisms and reorganizing them in favor of that goal.
The somewhat-normal situation is also fascinating, because there's still much that we don't know (unknown unknowns, to those operating with more assurance than sense). For instance, it was only recently discovered that the brain has its own nest of immune defense cells - whereas previously we were assuming that they magically teleported there.
When you consider all of the brain-based pathologies that we consider part of everyday life -- tired, depressed, hard to remember -- this might edge closer to what you are asking, about the degree to which things have access to the brain. Is it the exception or the rule? Many viruses are neurotropic, but what they're actually doing, when, and where is a black box.
Yes, possibly a matter of degree … a natural infection results in limited quantity of viruses and most are handled in the mucosal system but perhaps a few would find pathway to the brain … snorting AstraZeneca however is an overwhelming dose of (attenuated) virus and who knows what else.
What I am failing to appreciate is just how STUPID and ARROGANT immunologists can be … unbelievable how little they know and how they are charging in the dark at full speed across an effective highway of potential disasters. I am a layperson. When I read about the immune system I know two things … 1) it is not the outcome of randomized events but the brilliant handiwork of Someone and 2) you better be sore you know what you are doing before you lay even a finger on it because there are so many moving parts all interconnected. Because I am on the outside, these two things are wildly obvious and I am appropriately horrified at the idea of injecting vials of adjuvants, man made chemicals and mRNA sequence instructions directly into the bloodstream. HORRIFIED. The level of hubris to actually do that like you know the smallest thing about what it will ultimately cause is … sighing …
Agree on the potential for future disasters. Consider the fact that we are into the third year of what is likely the first (widespread) genetically engineered pandemic ever to afflict the whole world. By official counts, it killed millions and did further damage on a scale only exceeded by mankind's worst wars. Yet the pathogen involved is rather tame, compared to the worst that Nature (and now Man) can perpetrate. What has been apocalyptic [science] fiction for decades, the appalling prospect of a plague that kills off a large fraction of humanity is already well within reach, I suspect.
And motives don't matter. An academic research project getting loose, or a terrorist's deliberate attempt to eradicate a targeted genome, all pose a risk, whether a bad cold or a Captain Trips that wipes out nearly everyone. I'm sure that some precautions are taken, but I place no more trust in them than I would have in whoever the idiot was who brought the rabbit to Australia, or the man who got the brilliant idea to cross African and Brazilian bees.
The current WHO power grab attempt notwithstanding, it's a fact that tinkering with pathogens continues apace all over the globe, and realistically there's not a damn thing that can be done to halt it, surely not with present institutions and probably not even under the the wettest dreams of the WEF cabal.
This is why we need to keep talking about these things to people - here and wherever else.
There are some fundamental differences in reasoning that enable Reasonableness / Critical thinking / Appreciation of complexity and nature / Awareness of lab dangers
vs
Arrogance
and-or
Short-sightedness / Lack of critical thinking / Anthropocentric reasoning / Simply being uninformed
Yep. They're not useless.
They make $$$$ for Big Pharma and their friends in the government get kickbacks.
Results matter more than intentions. Yet our society refuses to hold leadership to the only standard leaders should be held to: their effectiveness (which is measured in results). Why do so many policies exist that continuously have bad results?
This problem is easily solvable. We need to be a results-driven society once again. Intentions irrelevant, we need to demand results with receipts.
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/we-should-value-results-more-than?r=7oa9d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Wonder how much that cost in bribes of one sort or another...
A free doughnut?
Don't be so cheep ,it's a free ice creme cone ,the whole family can lick .
Or just being allowed to see a game and go to a movie! I will PAY ANY PRICE 🙄🙄🙄
I was involved in a scientific research program, where for the past 2 years we researched the best delivery methods, and which segment of the population would benefit the most. We discovered, through human trials, that the best method for inducing long term, proper immunity, to the whole virus would be if the segment of society involved in the current vaccination scheme would shove their vaccines up their ass.
Real science, at last.
Was this approved by the FDA and CDC?
FDA and CDC. will approve it as soon as they get the O.k. for it from Klaus Schwab .
Asses could not be found on short notice ,most where in service for Monkey pox .
oh my I think you make a perfect second best on Net today Johnny ! Great solution that !
So.................anally it is!
A small segment of the population will enjoy it.
Small but GROWING!
LOL!
You may be in error.
If I recall correctly, the highest efficacy was from the CEO's and upper management of the pharma corps doing the same, but by first inserting it into the base of a giant spike-studded buttplug covered in pepper spray and drain cleaner, then sealed with super glue.
-=-
Covid 19 vaccine damage repair protocols:
https://davenarby.substack.com/p/covid-19-vaccine-damage-repair-protocol
That is a significant contribution to a true public health effort.
Kinky!
Actually, the best nasal vaccine exists since millions of years ago: its called life. As you live every minute you inhale millions of viruses that your magnificent inmune system turns into super effective protection. Using said method of immunization when this thing began i immediately went to the market. And lo and behold, since then i am perfectly healthy.. no covid..
Perzactly!
Now that’s the speed of science
Perfect delivery. Of your joke, that is.
Next up, vaccine suppositories for rectal administration...
I'm sure it's been researched. SARS-CoV-2 can infect the intestine. I'm not sure how common. I make the suppository supposition that there might be untoward effects. For example, in my own personal experience, my lower digestive tract already does a more than capable emulation of a paper mill. I prefer not to imagine what would occur if my bowel were doing the equivalent of coughing and sneezing. 🤡
You betcha and at least four times a year!
Yes Johnny I agree and testing should also not be done through the nose ,but through your but for testing and TASTING .
That is an excellent, well-considered protocol, a true public health measure.
Are we to believe 30 unvaccinated actually offered themselves up to snort this poison right into and up their nose near their brain when they had the good sense to stay away from the shot!! Love to see these 30 people and interview them. We’re they forced??? We’re they in prison and had no choice and we’re coerced?? Worse yet did they go get them out of orphanages like Fauci did back in 80,s?? We need to find out. I truly want to hear from these 30 people. If they are even still alive.
Probably homeless drug-addicts who could easily be bought but never got around to getting the clot shots...
it’s something like this for sure
In a lot of these studies people who have had a single shot in a two shot series are counted as unvaccinated. Literally, they are counted as unvaccinated. I would bet that that is the case here; that the "unvaccinated" people in this study have had one shot.
They do count them as unvaxxed in their stats to make it look like the unvaxxed are still hospitalized and dying of covid. But I doubt they would use partially vaxxed here as any antibodies they detected could be from that first shot of the unfinished series. Or maybe they did and hoped that would give them higher antibody numbers in their data (as if antibody levels mean anything). But if they did use partially vaxxed, that would be an obviously glaring error in their study design.
Don't you know ,A free donut is like winning the lottery .
Well, sure it is for a small lottery. Everything is relative.
Maybe they got the vaccine and now count as unvaccinated again, the way I do?
Maybe even: the entire vaccination project generally (or at best, with very few exceptions) is a top-to-bottom pharmaceutical scam? Research the childhood vaccination schedule, health outcomes, VAERS reports and statistics… et al.
At the moment, the optics really aren’t great relative to anything the pharma industry and governments are doing, or have been doing, in collaboration with each other… for sometime now.
This sh|tshow is creating multiple generations of profoundly skeptical “healthcare” consumers, and I love to see it.
anyone still trusting any of these people and organizations are deaf and blind.
"Nasal sprays are advantageous for vaccinating mannequins and other inanimate objects, which do not have bloodstreams and cannot receive intramuscular injections."
Someone please revive me...
Why ANYONE would volunteer for this shit after everything coming out about the unknowns & the known dangers now is beyond me. Especially anyone unvax’d.
where do they find these idiots???
I KNOW! And again, esp those who had resisted the coercion all this time!
I can understand finding plenty of VAX’D idiots who are addicted to the jab ritual….
Just look around ,any one wearing a mask is a good candidate .
Everyone has a price.
Just proves, once again - YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID !
Yep
"Probably the entire influenza vaccination project is a top-to-bottom pharmaceutical scam."
Ya think?!
Well said! I take it one step farther, ALL vaccines are drug company scams. This is coming from someone who along with her mother took part in the polio vaccine trials; both the Salk and Sabin versions, she died, I didn't.
If you failed you can try again . Was your mother a winner .?
Regularly picking your nose is the best way to develop broad spectrum mucosal immunity. At least that's my theory.
Introducing small doses of environmental pathogens via your fingernails, in order to expose and strengthen your immune system. Sound science. I doubt NIH will fund a study, though.
They did but they did it with tied down beagle puppies … whatever happened to that story? Anyway … sigh …
If you're right, my child must be super-immune to each and any bug that floats around.
Your child probably is immune. I saw an article somewhere recently that children aren't developing the immunity they should because they aren't allowed to play outside in the dirt anymore.
This is certainly the case. I am a teacher and am a parent and at school/in kindergarten we usually have these infection waves at the beginning of the school year where everybody catches a cold or some stomach flu bug...after the lockdowns, we had them immediately and much, much worse than we usually do. And then we had these many and severe cases of rsv, not to speak of the cases of hepatitis in children that were thought to be linked to a lack of exposure to adenoviruses. rsIsolating kids from human contact (and the dirt) was totally counterproductive.
I suppose it's more common to get fungus and bacterial infections from dirt, which may provide some immunity from that, but according to this article there are many RNA viruses in dirt, some of which may infect animals.
https://www.energy.gov/science/ber/articles/soil-viruses-rich-reservoir-diversity
If children get immune from yrusses ,if playing in the dirt ,than we all should do it ,young and old . If the ground is frozen in the winter can we still get healthy by not using the shower for the winter time ?
Leave the nose alone ,concentrate on picking your but ,it works much better now since the toilet paper is sold out for some time now .
Well, if you're picking your butt I would not pick your nose right afterwards without washing your hands first. There's no shortage of toilet paper where I am.
HAHAHAHahaha, Snort ...! OK, Eugyppius, you gave me my laugh today with the title and subtitle Womp Womp.
yes I think he deserves the best on Net today !
Hear hear!!! We will all be healed forthwith from any and all ailments if he keeps up this kind of humor.
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This is the silence of karl lauterbach contemplating what he could now claim will end the pandemic since nasal sprays won't do it.
did you see his tweet? he remains confident that nasal vaccines will nevertheless will work. no arguments, no nothing, just empty appeals to science.
I did. I think he has a sort of bullshit bingo list that he consults every morning before tweeting...
nasal immunity
spring wave
autumn wave
long covid
not over
difficult times ahead
Maske
Abstand
Impfen
It makes me want to weep.
How Lysenko of him.
Because if you want something badly enough and “BELIEVE(!!!)” you can make anything come true. The bucketload of arrogant stupidity in that one man is enough to nauseate me
Lauterbach is busy pussiling over how to fix the broken pipes .How can poor Lauterbach make spray if the gas pipes are broken .? Did Lauterbach know gas can't come out if the Russkies don't put any gas in on their side ?
It's time to leave the nose alone already I see people running around with noses swollen like giant cucumbers .Now masks will have to be made many times larger ,at a time of global shortages . Not of swollen noses but of cotton in china .
Large nose perhaps due to non-disease factor 😉
If misting doesn't work, then expect to see more research into mosquito delivery.
That sounds exciting, a bit like blocking the mTOR cellular-growth signal in mosquitoes, releasing them in Brazil, and then years down the line noticing that microcephaly Zika babies have mTOR defects but never mentioning the mosquitoes. https://medquotes.substack.com/p/enthusiasm-wrecking-ball-
I also read there were vaccine trials going on in the region that suffered microcephaly cases and that in other areas zika did not cause microcephaly.
Yep. Microcephaly emerged as a Zika-associated complication in this specific place and time.
Oh yes. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01186-6
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And flatten a lot of people...
Not surprised. The nasal mucosa has intrinsic defense mechanisms against viral entry, which probably blocks the modified adenoviruses to a large extent.
I can't believe they are still trying to invent new vaccines against the Omikron cold, though. Idiotic....
Decades of work fine-tuning precisely how to get past those protective mechanisms -- many of which are used in these shots.
No, this does not apply for the Astra zeneca stuff. The adenovirus works without any adjuvants or transfection reagents.
Adjuvants are just one method. The receptors that are targeted by spike are dense in the cribiform plate region and facilitate BBB crossing. Arginine-rich motifs also permeate the BBB. Adenos are also neurotropic and thus a fine-tuned favorite tool to get past the BBB.
It’s for the next thing they decide to release from Wuhan
I saw the headline and I thought this might be from Babylon Bee ....
Influenza vaccines are indeed pointless.
But the mRNA are even more pointless, as they only have one antigen. The whole concept is pointless for a quickly mutating virus, and it was pointless from the beginning, and everyone with knowledge in immunology knew it.
Pointless? Pfizer's accountants beg to differ.
The "pointless" indictment can be leveled against a great many medical interventions. Already on my "Why the hell did I ever use this product?" list are pneumonia or flu vaccines and statins (for those with "high cholesterol.") And that's not even to say a drug is ineffective. For example, that shot may really produce antibodies or the statin reduces LDL numbers. But the relevant information, looking at all-cause morbidity or mortality for several years, often shows little net benefit. And these are the questions that Pharma and your captured MD would rather a patient not ask.
But the flu vaccines and statins at least make some sense in theory. Even if the theory turns out to be faulty .
The mRNA vaccines are pointless even in theory.
Disagree partially. With the disclaimer that I am just a layman, as I understand it, the mRNA does what it's designed to (makes cells produce a certain protein). These products are problematic because of rapidly ebbing efficacy (they produced less target protein with repeated doses) and more importantly, that they have dangerous side effects. While the analogy is not perfect, consider this one: many drugs in history were effective, but they fell out of use because a toxic or fatal dose was not much more than the typical effective dose. It wasn't "pointless" to use them, but at some point, the risk/reward becomes unacceptable.
No, the side effects or efficiency is not the issue why they were pointless all along.
The issue is: we have a virus which mutates quickly.
If you give a vaccine which targets only a few antigens on the Spike protein, the virus will very quickly mutate those antigens so that the antibodies elicited by the vaccine are useless, possibly even worse than useless.
All that would happen is that we get new variants.
If you get immune by the whole virus, or a vaccine containing the whole virus, you produce antibodies against many different antigens. In the Corona case, it would also be to other proteins, not yet Spike.
The virus then has it much harder to mutate enough to escape your antibodies. You will have a much better chance to be immune.
And this is also why the non vaccinated who encountered CoV-19 before have a much better chance to be immune against other variants.
This is why the succesful vaccines, e.g. smallpox or measles, are all containing the whole virus.
Not to fear, the valiant FDA will approve it anyway if not because it works, but to keep big pharma's fraudulent drugs alive and profitable. Maybe they should have sniffed-up 42 mice since that breed of willing volunteer has moved ahead of humans as the basis for vaccine/mRNA injection trials.
They’ll push it through one way or another. How did these 2 get through? Wouldn’t trust the research further than I could throw it, the nearest trash can.
‘Despite AZ's troubles, Bharat Biotech of India and CanSino Biologics of China have scored approvals in their respective countries for their nasal COVID-19 vaccines.’
Oh lookie. US backed.
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/worlds-first-nasal-covid-19-vaccine-approved-in-india-based-on-washington-university-technology/
It appears that the body's nasal/pharyngeal immune system is knocking hell out of the adenovirus that the vector is trying to introduce, as it has evolved to do in healthy people.
You don’t happen to have a handsome pristine teenage son, do you? I worry about the prospects for my pureblood teenage daughter as all her male peers are vaxxed…
😂😂love it! Pure blood Pristeens
How bout a 17-year-old grandson ?
He's already got a $25/hr job running heavy equipment after school.