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Here is this evening's Aktuelle Kamera, with the latest news from B...n and around the globe. In breaking news, the American imperialist capitalist Elon Musk has again insulted the leaders and peoples of Democratic G...y by expressing his support for dissident internal critics of the regime. In response to this entirely unwarranted, and inaccurate, foreign meddling in the internal affairs of the Democratic G...n Peoples Caretaker Minority Government by foreign lackey capitalists, the caretaker government once again reiterated its unwavering support for the current Five Year Economic Plan, Ten Year Economic Plan, and most of all Economic Plan 2040, under which G...n industry, households, and people breathing will cease emitting carbon altogether, and expressed its certainty that following the forthcoming elections, regime forces would once again be able to establish a People's Coalition and the Antidemocratic Force of Antidemocracy would once again be humiliated and consigned to a small corner of the parliament where they would continue to be ignored by both internal and global media.

The President has explicitly warned voters against voting for he Antidemocratic Force of Antidemocracy. Citing binding legal precedents set in Romania, should they win, the result would have to be nullified as clearly undemocratic, and due to American lackey capitalist running dog interference by the likes of Musk, who runs a platform where unauthorised opinions can be aired, and people of all views can argue for and against voting for particular parties. Such discussions and arguments have, per the president, no place in the traditions of our peaceful and co-operative Democracy.

A member of the G...n Democratic Peoples Caretaker Minority Government has formally apologised to Democratic Chancellor S...z for having been misheard, misunderstood, and misrepresented on Foreign American Lackey Capitalist media as having gravely insulted him by using a word that is used millions of times a day by schoolchildren in the Fascist Western Zones to insult their fellow schoolchildren and even, according to latest reports from the UK, their teachers. Following this bulletin there will be a special programme with our legal specialist, on the consequences that can arise from using such language to insult politicians, followed by a four-hour panel discussion on whether the increasing use of the word on school playgrounds in the G,,,n Democratic People's Republic should also be banned.

The Caretaker Health Minister has responded to criticism of alleged lack of security of his Digital Patient File by the western-funded "Chaotic Computerists" by saying that health records should be public knowledge in a Socialist Utopia. Professor U. flashed his digital vaccination certificate to the cameras to prove that those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear. Aktuelle Kamera has pixellated the Qr code in this footage in the interests of the minister's privacy.

In the Western Zones, planes continue to fall out of the sky due to climate change. There have been a series of incidents, several of them fatal, involving passenger aircraft in Norway, Russia, South Korea and elsewhere. Viewers are warned - flying anywhere means taking your life in your hands, especially as the increased carbon concentration in the atmosphere itself causes planes to crash.

That was the news. Now Andreas Windmühle will bring you tonight's weather forecast, and latest electricity prices.

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eugyppius's avatar

fantastic. pinned.

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Pat Robinson's avatar

🎯

Can’t wait until you get sarcastic as that was clearly just factual discourse.

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Chickensusie's avatar

😂😂👍🏼

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Doug Ross's avatar

Isn't it amazing that in the West, every media outlet prefixes "AfD" with the words "far right"? It's dishonest, destructive and ultimately suicidal.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Exactly.

What we should call it is the party of Leave Us The Fuck Alone. Let's see how they try to frame that one.

I think that's the glue that binds this motley crue.

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AndyinBC's avatar

As a charter member of the "Leave Us The Fuck Alone" party, (for over six decades), I would like to extend our sincere thanks to you for welcoming our philosophical brethren in Germany to our ranks.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I've got a lot to learn from you, Andy!

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Doug Ross's avatar

LUTFA has a nice ring to it.

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Lou Cassivi's avatar

So obvious! AfD needs to change it's name to LUTFA, although auf Deutsche, probably wouldn't have quite the same ring to it. Good one, AndyinBC.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

LUTFA could become the name for a worldwide movement!

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taxpayer's avatar

Apparently in Arabic it means "Joyful", and some girls are so named. https://www.babynamescube.com/lutfa-name-meaning

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

🤣🤣🤣That’s a hoot! It would be joyful for us if the left us alone.

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Tom Taylor's avatar

LUTFA 👊

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Russell A. Paielli's avatar

Labeling them "far right" is a key part of what Dinesh D'Souza called "The Big Lie" in his book by the same name. The folks who read eugyppius don't fall for this lie, but unfortunately a huge portion of the public still does. Until this lie is fully and finally debunked, we will be fighting an uphill battle. That's why I wrote this:

National Socialism is Not Right-Wing

https://russp.substack.com/p/the-false-flag-of-right-wing-fascism

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Oh yeah definitely. "DENIER" and "ANTI" this and that... Labeling is a powerful tool. Or even the absence of labeling for one side of a debate.

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AndyinBC's avatar

My political position hasn't changed much since my late teens. Over sixty years ago.

But the labels sure have. I seem to have, somehow, gone from 'middle of the road' to 'conservative with libertarian leanings', to 'far right'. And recently, to 'far right white supremacist'.

Who knew?

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Jana Crawford's avatar

If you didn't take the mRNA shot, you are an "anti-vaxxer"!

Assuming "AndyinBC" is male...you also left out misogynist. :) If female, being called a 'feminist' won't be an insult until next year!

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RSgva's avatar

Don’t forget “Russian asset”!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Labeling is a powerful tool, and it saves a lot of time and brain power on something called "critical thinking."

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AndyinBC's avatar

suggested edit: "it saves a lot of time and brain power on something called thinking"

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pyrrhus's avatar

Indeed, because they aren't "far right"...not long ago, their platform would be that of the US Democrats who were pro labor and anti-immigration...

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Russell A. Paielli's avatar

And even if they *are* "far right", so what? The main reason the "far right" label is considered derogatory is that the Nazis were given that label to mislead people.

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Doug Ross's avatar

Very compelling.

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Doug Ross's avatar

Russell, many years ago I did a comic strip that references the very quote you mentioned (Hitler writing to Rauschning): https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2019/03/heads-up-for-aoc-crowd-hitler-and-nazis.html

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, and the Wikipedia is even worse than the corporate media.

Every article even remotely threatening to rule by woke global corporations is prefixed with the "far right" slander, and is _locked_ so that contributors who are not actively pfellating Pfizer or rimming Blackrock are forbidden to correct those blatant falsehoods.

Wikipedia took the beautiful dream of worldwide cooperation on a universal encyclopedia and expropriated the voluntary work of millions to serve repressive and corrupt corporate interests.

No one should donate to Wikipedia anymore, or even contribute edits. They don't need the money anyway since getting a mysterious $100M that coincided with their turn towards extreme intolerance for the truth. And they now merely exploit those foolish enough to keep contributing edits.

The whole project should be forked, scrubbed clean of propaganda, and relaunched under ethical leadership.

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Doug Ross's avatar

Wikipedia is rightfully lampooned as Woke-apedia. It's horrible now.

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Hunterson7's avatar

Wikipedia is a "source" not worth the trouble of even attempting to use.

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

It serves communism.

The true communists are the western monarchies, bankers, and billionaires.

They want a monopoly on everything.

That's communism.

It's totalitarianism.

The rule of oligarchy with everyone enslaved to the system.

Wikipedia belongs to the western establishment, who are the true Evil.

And have been for 2,000 years.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

It works mostly as a social signal: Moral Pollution up ahead! Support this party at your own risk, as this will expel you from the Good tribe and render you a member of the Bad tribe.

Our global liberal clerisy are really a priesthood and the first prerogative of a priesthood is to be able to decide who/what is Good and who/what is Evil.

They and their supporters see themselves as the owners of modern morality and they will keep slapping these labels on everyone and everything even after they stop working.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well their supporters are going to find out the hard way that he who sups with the devil should carry a long spoon.

We know from history that the useful idiots are first against the wall...i wonder what they would do with all the useless idiots they had to "recruit" because the useful ones we're already selected for? It's almost like late stage Marxism. When you look at it in that light it's not hard to understand how you go from "the good of collective" to "shock- fetishism" of identifying as a barn yard animal replete with a tail sticking out their ass.

What i thinks funny is they can't figure out is HOW Trump and AfD created a party of "class" cohesion as opposed to oppressor/oppressed tribalism. To confront that would mean they'd have to confront WHY people rejected the later for the former. Which means they'd have to question the hallucination they call reality.

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KCwoofie's avatar

I fear a lot of people will never question the hallucination they call reality.

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Jana Crawford's avatar

'he who sups with the devil should carry a long spoon'...🤣🤣🤣

Unfortunately, these folks have no consideration for the consequences of the choices they make.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I fear economic collapse is the only thing that will sharpen their minds

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Epaminondas's avatar

AfD are about as "far right" as our Libertarian Party in the US.

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

Not so 'amazing' in my view. Entirely predictable. Which is why these media outlets are all so discredited and increasingly disregarded.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Indeed, and the bankster class that rules the EU is going to cause an apocalypse if they aren't stopped.....

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Danno's avatar

Just like every media outlet had to prefix every reference to allegations that the 2020 US Presidential election was been stolen with "false", "debunked", "unsupported", "unfounded", "fallacious" or the like. The louder the corporate media tries to deny something, the more likely it's true.

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Tell's avatar

And if any party or writers or activists call themselves nationalist, the media call them "ultra-nationalist." As they say about Hungary's Jobbik. What is the "ultra"? Why is there never any nationalism without being "ultra"? Why is "ultra" never used about communist parties?

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Tardigrade's avatar

'(one suspects) he likes to troll unreasonable ridiculous people'

One look at his Xwitter feed and it becomes more than just a suspicion ;)

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SCA's avatar

Though I despise how he earns his money I'm really, really glad he's used some o' that mighty big pocket change to have bought himself that toy we can all share in playing with when and if we want to.

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Awilson's avatar

Which parts of how he earns his money do you despise? I am quite open to learning about projects he has developed other than Tesla, Space-X, and the Boring Company, all of which are, in my opinion, amazing and beneficial to the public. Since we are communicating via comments, I need to emphasize that this is a genuine question and not snark hiding under a bear skin of polite words.

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SCA's avatar

I do not like EVs. I think we should stay the fuck out of space and stop leaving trash on beautiful objects like the Moon. We got a nice home here; there's plenty of room on it; it has unplumbed mysteries still. The Boring Company? Maybe, I don't know, too many tunnels in CA ain't such a smart plan. But boys love to dig.

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eugyppius's avatar

I don't even own an automobile, so I can't say whether EVs are good or not. If people like them, great, I just don't like the idea of subsidising them or otherwise artificially inflating demand for specific technologies because of CO2 anxieties.

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SCA's avatar

Those lithium batteries, for anything bigger than a flashlight, are like a pyromaniac's Christmas dream, and of course The Electricity Fairy, entirely unlike myself, is only mythical.

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Warmek's avatar

I'll agree wholeheartedly with your position on EVs, but strongly disagree with your position on outer space. Having all of humanity's eggs in one basket is a terrible idea, and we could move lots of industry into space, thereby making the Earth a much nicer place. Imagine never having to mine for almost anything, planetside, ever again.

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SCA's avatar

Sure. Let's turn all them nice planets into mine tailings.

Our eggs in this basket is just fine. We ain't none of us gonna live, you know, forever.

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Warmek's avatar

> Sure. Let's turn all them nice planets into mine tailings.

I am, of course, not speaking about mining other *planets*.

> Our eggs in this basket is just fine. We ain't none of us gonna live, you know, forever.

Well, hard disagree. Individuals won't, but I'd like the species to have a better chance of it in the long run.

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Hunterson7's avatar

The lifeless planets have care if we find ways to make them useful. Space is the ultimate frontier. Please feel free to deny the frontier for yourself. But not those who recognize the importance of frontiers.

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Hunterson7's avatar

Musk is wrong on climate. There is no crisis. Yet I am ok with EV vehicles, if unsubsidized. Thecrest of the listed items you reject, with all due respect, makes no sense at all.

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KCwoofie's avatar

Could be he’s thinking that if he bores enough holes in California it’ll break off and float away.

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Tardigrade's avatar

That can happen. It did once in an episode of Rocky and Bullwinkle, except that was Florida.

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SCA's avatar

I still have my Boris and Natasha watch. I gave away the Dudley Do-Right one to a friend.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I'm leery about the transhumanism bits, possibly because of a subconscious association with WEF/Harari.

I read an article recently where it was pointed out that everything Musk does is in service to colonizing Mars. SpaceX, electric vehicles, battery technology, the Boring Company. Looked at through that lens, much is clarified. As a lifelong science-fiction nerd I'm drawn to that. (And I want an Occupy Mars T-shirt.)

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

I like that explanation, Occam's Razor...and also want that t-shirt.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Agree!

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Jana Crawford's avatar

For me, it's the source of his wealth. First, PayPal (and you know about the PayPal mafia with Thiel). Next, is the $ he receives from federal govts to fund his projects, including StarLink (which depends on the satellite technology and info scooping fed back to govts, like Theil's Palantir). Without government contracts/tax breaks, it would all be science projects. He is not his public persona yet it is amusing.

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Kaatje Gotcha's avatar

The financial side has always seemed murky to me. And consumers aren't being told the truth about the environmental impact of EVs. Rare earth minerals are mined by child slaves, for starters. The energy it takes to produce 1 Tesla vs an efficient 1.4 liter ICE sedan is not in favor of EVs. Aside from the AGW scam, the infrastructure required, at a time when knowledgeable techs are retiring, amidst an aging and disintegrating US grid would mean collapse. Then, Mars. Fact is the radiation doesn't allow human life to travel there any time soon. I'd have more respect for people like Musk if he had simpler goals: 1. provide indoor cooking so 3 million women and children don't die from inhaling wood and dung smoke every year. 2. ensure clean drinking water and indoor plumbing for the poorest 500 million. Bingo. Two goals that would decrease mortality, and leave Musk with a legacy.

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Deadladyofclowntown's avatar

To go all Jungian here, Musk strikes me as the living Archetype of the Trickster, or the Fool (as in the tarot) -- a sort of wild creativity that's on the loose. Sometimes with a good outcome, sometimes with a bad outcome, but mainly he keeps stirring the pot and keeping things lively.

I use Starlink, and it's been a godsend here in the Santa Cruz Mts of Calif. But I don't like his neuralink stuff and the AI stuff and the stupid tunnels...a lot of what he does is just crazy, like colonizing Mars. But it's the sheer creativity that I admire most. He dares to think of going where no man has gone before, and that kind of creativity and idealism has sadly faded from our culture. Colonize Mars? I doubt it can be done any time soon, but hell -- I want the t-shirt!

I love that he's so wealthy he can't be blackmailed with money, as he said in the famous "Go fuck yourself" interview. He's an independent thinker, a fearless troll. He's a wild card! The Joker! Some good, some bad, and definitely entertaining.

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SCA's avatar

Well, he can certainly be influenced by the mystique of government contracts.

There is certainly a place for autistic geniuses. They're great with shiny stuff and wires coming out all over.

But they cause a lot of grief, too. What really keeps the world spinning in its best way are all the ordinary people with the rare and precious gift of forming healthy families and keeping them.

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Deadladyofclowntown's avatar

Yes, it's probably a very good thing that this sort of wild creativity is rare; it surely has a destructive edge. But it shakes things up in ways that can be good, fortunately. I think mainly I just enjoy watching Musk trolling all the wokesters out there. It's just a relief to find a wealthy industrialist who has a sense of humor!

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SaHiB's avatar

So, why's he block mine? Does El-Ayin believe his own feed not advocate suicide?

He's ridiculous, claiming ivermectin for river blindness do that!

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Ned's avatar

How ironic for 'woke' Germany that Alice Elisabeth Weidel is a muff diver.

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Charlotte's avatar

“He is a battery salesman who wants to sell Germany more batteries”, LOL

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Ted's avatar

It WAS a rather droll observation, wasn't it?

.... but it needs to be repeated, over and over again.

There are far too many "my savior, the billionaire" personality cults forming, these days.

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Tardigrade's avatar

A good point, and I'm glad it was acknowledged.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

I’m grateful for any disparaging comment by Elon Musk against the unholy mess being made by British politicians, and I suspect there are many Germans who quietly welcome his “interference” in German political affairs too.

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Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Musk is one of those people that must be taken with a large dose of skepticism. I personally do not want Musk's version of the future, where everyone relies on Musk branded, battery powered AI robo-taxis and gets their brain plugged into Star Link.

My personal view of the man is that he is largely self-interested and self-important. His views on technology and transhumanism are wrongheaded and, quite frankly, antithetical to God. But Musk seems to grasp on some level what has gone wrong in Western Civilization. He doesn't get it completely because he lacks an understanding of the spiritual void that technology like the ones he pushes have left in Western society.

While I don't find him to be a very sympathetic person, his combination of ego, platform and grasp of what ails the West make him a very useful person at this moment in history. Musk doesn't know how to fix Western Civilization, and many of his solutions would serve to make matters worse. But, he is in a unique position to clear the path for others, who do understand how to save the West.

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PatriotInGibraltar's avatar

Very well stated. My watchwords for Elon are "Musk is as Musk does." At this point, it's a mixed bag, but many of his most strongly-felt impulses are helpful to patriots...for the moment.

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Tuco's Child's avatar

Thank you for this excellent article.

VW is the "canary in the coal mine", and represents Germanys stunning decline, from the diesel scandal to the EV scandal, and now teetering on bankruptcy.

Der Spiegel and Bloomberg recently published interesting articles, one of which is in video form:

https://youtu.be/HjSyYZ5M2H8?si=WP3P4XpuxBNGjvZX

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SF Bay Area's avatar

It's amazing that VW hasn't gone bankrupt by now. It's perhaps one of the worst products on American roads. The French and Italians are almost making better cars than VW.

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Awilson's avatar

My opinions about VW are based on the VWs my family has owned. In the U.S. it was expensive to repair them and they required repairs more often than Japanese cars like Toyota and Honda.

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reality speaks's avatar

So true.

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Tuco's Child's avatar

Agree.

Porsche is suffering from the VW fiasco as they hold a large equity stake in VW.

If Porsche goes down, that would be a real tragedy!

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alexei's avatar

VW also owns Bentley, Lamborghini, Audi, Porsche and Seat.

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Paul's avatar

I've owned two VWs. A '99 Jetta TDI sedan and now have a '14 Jetta TDI Sportwagon. Yes, maintenance at the dealership is pricier, but I've taken on that myself and have handled everything the past 4 years. I've very much liked them, they're VERY comfortable driving, handle well and are fairly fuel efficient. The 99 was more efficient than the 14 though.

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Mark Alexander's avatar

I have a 2016 GTI that I love, but maybe I just got lucky. And now all I see at VW dealers are giant ugly EV SUVs, a very sad state of affairs.

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Livin In Cin's avatar

They were also stupid enough to allow the U Ain’t Workin’ morons to unionize their Tennessee plant here in the US

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TheDukeofAlba's avatar

I’m glad Musk is doing this, and not only for Germany but here in America. The absurd lies about the AfD have been imported here from the German press “who would know” and I have been accused of being a Nazi by ppl I know for expressing support by them. “But the German government says they are!” It’s time this whole lie complex be buried and done with once and for all. I just got a Christmas card from old friends in Mainz I haven’t heard from in years, interested to see what they have to say (usually include a long letter in the card). Back in 2015 I emailed them about the migration situation and received a handwritten letter in response, so worried were they that their real thoughts about it get known outside our circle - afraid that email would be monitored. Which seemed absurd to me at the time but it doesn’t now.

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Awilson's avatar

Am I wearing a tin foil hat when I believe that all email is digested and analyzed?

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Tardigrade's avatar

Nope. Google does it to Gmail in order to serve up ads—it's not a secret. Do you think the intelligence community isn't gonna get in on that?

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Best part of this moment in history is unreasonable ridiculous people trolled! :~)

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I know!

I'm having so much fun with the sport of this that if i keep it up too long I may need a "clinic" myself.

Sorta like with how fucking stupid the masks, plexiglass, one way arrows, etc. were.

Nah...it'll never get old!

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

"Welt opinion editor Eva Marie Kogel has even resigned in protest."

Really.

An "opinion editor" (oxymoronic), disagrees with a post and resigns?

OK...

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AndyinBC's avatar

Disagreement, or even the perception thereof, is violence!

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Or worse.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

How will we survive without the wisdom and guidance of Eva Marie Kogel!?

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Or her editing...

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Christian's avatar

Maybe she will start a substack and she can find out how popular she really is :)

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Name sounds like Kugel (German for sphere). Couldn't she just have ROUNDLY condemned the piece, and kept her job? Or is this a case where she had to roll clear before she was pushed out?

"Resigned in protest" probably makes for better looks and timing as she tries to move to the (even) more left-wing segment of the MSM spectrum. (Or perhaps she already had an offer in her pocket before the whole brouhaha gave her dramatic cover?)

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AndyinBC's avatar

Pssst - your cynicism is showing.

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Nicholas's avatar

She probably marched righteously towards the door, confident in the belief that her indispensability to the, er, shaping of opinion in Die Welt would mean she would be called back and Musk's opinion piece spiked. But that didn't happen.... I expect her LinkedIn profile is full of sympathetic comments, but job offers? In today's dying dead tree press: no.

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Oliver Driesen's avatar

Well, "Kugel" is also the German for bullet ...

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Eric's avatar

A valid critique of Musk's editorial should be his failure to mention Germany's silence of NordStream 2's destruction that ended forever cheap energy for Germany. There is no coming out of the abyss for Germany, once manufacturing companies close they will never reopen.

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Rob's avatar

Fascinating that Burgtard says "60 per cent of companies view the AfD's position as a risk" as that means the AfD are even more popular with companies than with voters as, I believe, the AfD 'only' has 30-35% support amongst the electorate. So rather undermines his point!

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Tardigrade's avatar

Yeah, 40% is nothing to sneeze at.

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Suzie's avatar

That Musk’s editorial was even published to me reveals a light at the end of the tunnel.

Of course all the usual suspects are going to wail and gnash their teeth, but breaking through the dam of mainstream media censorship is a huge win.

Obviously road ahead is still long, and extremely difficult, but every victory is worth celebrating. This was quite a big one in my estimation.

Sometimes a crack in the dam can lead to a flood.

AfD should seize upon it.

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Tardigrade's avatar

For some reason nobody mentions the Overton window anymore. But it's moving.

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SCA's avatar

Well, don't feel too bad. The crazy here in the US ain't going nowhere anytime soon.

This was most painfully demonstrated to me two days ago. I'm email friends with the daughter of one of my mother's friends. Both our mothers have been dead for awhile now, but she has the same birthday as my mom so it's been our habit for more than 15 years for us to send birthday greetings to each other on the appropriate days, and have a brief catch-up.

When she thanked me for my good wishes she also noted that "...the election results have left us both rather depressed and upset. We have not been watching the news at all."

So I replied that I had voted for Trump, for the first and, obviously, now only time, and gave my reasons. And she replied that: "...I feel that what you are telling me are conspiracy theories.

I believe that Trump is a danger to our country, to our democracy and to our way of life. I can go on and on about his personality and ideas that I feel threatened by."

Or, to translate her words--"you're a gullible moron." She also said that she, her husband with serious health conditions predating The Plague Era, and many of their friends "get the vax every six months and we have had no ill effects." Plus he wears an ordinary face mask in public; she sent me the photo.

And she and her husband and their friends are legion here. Only just not enough to have made The Nincompoop Ticket victorious. This time.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'I feel that what you are telling me are conspiracy theories.'

I have one local friend, still a loyal progressive Democrat, who for some reason doesn't hesitate to feed me wine and tolerates the resultant ranting of an ex-cultist. She has responded that what I'm saying is just conspiracy theories, and specifically mentions Hunter's laptop, which admittedly, I bring up too often as an example of media censorship. When I point out that perhaps she could consider things like reports of Joe Biden's tack-sharpness correspondingly, just as a thought experiment, I don't get a good answer. Because she still believes he's sharp as a tack.

It doesn't help that she's still never heard of Hunter's laptop from anywhere but me.

My progressive friends are suffering high anxiety about Trump, a known blowhard, because of what he says he'll do. Mention that all politicians lie, and provide concrete examples? But Trump! Suggest looking at actions rather than words? But Trump!

Time will tell.

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SCA's avatar

Well, yet again--all cults are the same. My correspondent has previously expressed her great anxiety about the planet burning to a crisp, too. Whenever I hear statements like "hottest year ever" I have to smother myself from asking if, say, the dinosaurs carried thermometers around with them to check.

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Tardigrade's avatar

To be fair, there are scientific ways of determining past temperature using fossilized pollen and other signs :)

Nevertheless, point taken.

I used to be in the anthropogenic global warming cult also. Finding contradictory credible scientific evidence turned me around on that too. My current best argument for people like your friend is ice core samples from Greenland showing there have been much warmer time periods in the past.

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SCA's avatar

People who want to be hysterical--like that other one, my FFFFG, don't want to hear rational evidence. These are all forms of religious frenzy that give the believer a sense of imaginary transcendence. Enlightenment through suffering.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Yep. Still, I can't help persevering, gently.

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SCA's avatar

There are just so many insults--inadvertent or vertent to the max--I can tolerate without getting a little annoyed.

The truth is out there, ain't it? But people gotta want to reach for it. It's not such a joyful process, finding out that what one has believed or trusted in wasn't such sterling goods. It really has to be a voluntary quest and not carefully selected spoonfuls tenderly offered, to cultivate the taste.

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AndyinBC's avatar

"This time"

Yeah - do you get the feeling that our sense of profound relief may be just a tad optimistic?

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Tardigrade's avatar

I'm cautiously optimistic. It's better than the alternative would've been.

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SCA's avatar

I'm just glad. As I keep saying. Tomorrow ain't in my hands. I did my part. I paid attention. I even became, ever so briefly, a happy hooker.

And the Cosmos gonna keep existing, in its strange and marvelous way, no matter who does what and where in politics. I find that comforting too.

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Isaiah Antares's avatar

I hope the human race keeps existing as well.

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SCA's avatar

One, I ain't overly worried. Two, things will work out as they will.

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Isaiah Antares's avatar

Que sera, sera...

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SCA's avatar

When otherwise intelligent, mature people with a whole shit-ton of life experience, some of it terribly painful, are nevertheless willingly deep in the throes of extended hysteria--yes, we ain't got nothing to relax about.

At least my own kid, who disagreed with my decision, fully understood why I made it and doesn't mind being seen in public with me.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I'd call it hallucinations of the insular vs. hysteria

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SCA's avatar

It made me very sad. At least I knew I'd be able to relieve my aching heart on one or another of the comments threads where I find some sustaining camaraderie.

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

“Crazies” out in the wild generally Casualties of information warfare while casualty count of chemo/biowarfare continuing to accumulate.

All such may easily function as the emergent properties of the actual conspiracy to attack the population. Unconscious compliance participates and is more the rule than the exception. They are entranced and those of us who are not must support their awakening and stand free of fear and the potentials arising from their injuries and self-protection/projection.

Good for you on speaking out!

We offer our freedom 💗from exactly what they still suffer

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SCA's avatar

I would not have spoken out had she not gone first. I am a big fan of free will, that people should make their own choices and, you know, foundationally, do their own research.

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

Thank you that seems a worthy sensitivity for we each can only see reality and Reality Itself, the way that we can. And you remind me how listening is the root of communication and inquiry the questions may best begin our speaking

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SCA's avatar

Let's just say it's been a long long journey to the garden of common sense.

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Rosemary B's avatar

This is what I like about Musk. He has piles of money and he loves to point out stupid things.

Of course it bothers many, as if he is a meanie, but most often there are no counters to his statements. I hope it continues. He is just one of a few people that can do this.

I would never imagine Bezos or Soros or Zuckerburg, or others like them, come out with

"idiot alerts"

Why? because they are dumb and Soros is just a criminal

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