Typical Germans, banning the expression of alternative political viewpoints not approved by the German deity, i.e., the State. Hallowed be its name. Are there enough of the offending magazines in print form for a good old traditional German book burning.
It won't be relegated to a box, it must be defeated. The Left has no cogent argument and thus only the power of the state and the threat of violence to carry the day.
Please provide a list of Journalists that were tortured.
Please detail what you mean by "and more".
Every person (18+) in South Africa had the vote before "democracy reached us" so what exactly does that mean?
Zimbabwe Namibia and South Africa had dictatorships imposed on them through false 'elections'. Muzorewa-Smith were leading in Zimbabwe and then no results for 48 hours and Mugabe declared the winner. Turnhalle alliance were leading in Namibia and then no results for 24 hours and SWAPO declared the winner. IFP-Conservatives were leading in SA and then 36 hours of silence and ANC were declared the winner.
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ~
George Orwell.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." -- George Orwell, 1984
The easiest is to refer you to this article: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064227908532927 I was born in the fifties so I was fed "racism" with my mothers milk and were also not allowed to ask questions. It is true we had the vote, such as it was, but you do agree that it was not real democracy. I am not saying anything about the situation today were for white people if feels as if the situation has been reversed. I do not want to go into a lengthy discussion about our history now, I know a lot more that you seem to think I do, but that is not what this article is about, it is about freedom of speech and all I say as that we also did not have freedom of speech and indoctrination in our schools were the standard. I am also not commenting on the situation in our country at the moment, you seem to be well informed so there is no need.
Having read the article to the end, there is not a single reference to a "tortured" journalist. As a young person I wanted to know what Biko's appeal and his philosophy was. I was 'attacked' as a kafferboetie regularly, so I studied Biko and his sole message (like Malema today) was take it from the whites. Not a single thought except to steal.
Segregation was and remains the only solution to this world. It gets in the way of global domination and thus Verwoerd and all who actually work and understand peoples who are not the same as them will be vilified and or assassinated. The three (relatively) successful countries were Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland. They are still the most peaceful countries in Africa, as they are based purely on tribes.
I did not assume you were 'clueless', I assumed that you did not have any facts and were basing your comments on nonsensical propaganda.
> so I studied Biko and his sole message (like Malema today) was take it from the whites. Not a single thought except to steal.
Given that the whites in this case invaded, settled, enslaved, and seggregated a place far away from their homeland that they had no reason to be in the first place, it sounds about right.
First White (Dutch) did not invade. Second they did not enslave anyone in South Africa. Third nobody was in a place far from their homeland and the whole point of "Apartheid" was to ensure that they kept and lived in their Homelands.
There were no blacks in the cape when the Dutch arrived and there was no clashes until some 200 years after, as the blacks moved down the coast to the Fish river and stole white cattle.
The only slaves in south africa were Malays brought to grow vegetables for the DEIC ships on their route to the east. No African Blacks were enslaved by Dutch, Boers or English.
I can see you are reeling for an argument. I give you "beaten up" is probably not "torture" and I know about the propaganda on both sides. Some of the things that went on I witnessed with my own eyes. Maybe trivial in your eyes, but farmers beating workers never looked right to me.
If one says that one system was bad it does not mean that the one that replaced is better, maybe worse as both of us know. And I have to be honest I do not have an acceptable resolution. (Malema will scream and carry on about anything that gets him attention and draws the attention away from his expensive shoes at the Durban July or his chauffeur driven SUV that takes his children to their expensive private school)
There is no doubt that the present regime has only one agenda and that is enriching themselves and we once again do not have total freedom of speech as I am sure you know. As I said, this is a really long and detailed conversation that has nothing to do with this article. Just rest assured that all my knowledge does not come from hearsay and propaganda, it comes from personal experience. Apart from that, so you really think we did not learn anything about our history.
To go further, my husband was a very active member of the youth league of the Nasional Party and the infamous "Rapportryers" so I do actually know a thing or two.
I am not giving an opinion of whether Apartheid was right or wrong neither am I giving an opinion of whether the present system is better, it is all one big mess!
I also have to be honest and admit that growing up in the 60's in South Africa was really fun. Whether it was morally right to enjoy it is not a question I can answer. As a teenage girl it was fun to be able to go to parties and walk back home at night or to go to the Illeky (I have no idea how to spell it) and taking the las bus back home was fun, I would be a hypocrite to deny that. As I said, all I did was make a comment about freedom of speech in those days and we both know there was none.
Freedom of speech was abundant, the only problem was that the solution was "Drive the whites into the sea", and we saw how that worked for the Indians of Tanganyika and Zanzibar.
There were dozens (hundreds) of "Black" newspapers, they told of the travails of blacks, they moaned about the government and laws, and as long as they did not call for violence or civil disobedience they operated freely.
I saw blacks beating blacks, attacking whites and (Soweto 1976) putting policemen bodies into dustbins and burning them. I drove ambulances into Soweto and Alex to pick up black accident victims and sick.
Some aspects of Apartheid were bad, all political systems have their bad aspects but I cannot keep quiet when lies and distortions are spread. There was no systemic torture, no denial of freedoms, no specific targeting of journalists any better or worse than any country or system in the world.
The biggest distortion is the idea that "Western Democracy" is the best or only system. Africa has/had it's own culture and it's own political systems. Western multi-party 'democracy' is a sham even in the west, and a disaster in Africa. The African solution to dissent is witch-smellers and now necklaces. I am making no moral judgements on whether that is good or bad, it merely is what is.
I love Africa and the African culture, the white africans have nothing to apologise for. Anglo American stole SA from the Afrikaner and took their billions to London by putting the ANC in power. They still hold all the power.
I would seriously warn people against using "they are scared" rhetorics when authorities are walking over you. Have seen this narrative playing out among Russian opposition for 20+ years every time they got trampled by the state. No one says it anymore.
I understand the emotional appeal to portrait the power balance in your favour, I do. It's also dangerously misleading.
No, when the powers are scared they behave differently. They appease, they negotiate, they join.
Humiliate and mock the individuals BY NAME - the Left are acutely weak and vain, that's why they operate in mobs for their strength. Single them out with good arguments, show them to be stupid and they crumble, the others get the message. The same with any bullies in a mob, stand your ground, take down the big one with a good punch, the rest think 'oh, I think I'll go and tidy my bedroom'. Seen any of these vids where some big guys deal with antifa thugs? More humiliation is needed for Klaus Schwab.
Rule of law is a great punchline to the worlds worst joke. Did police raid Sebastian Hotz for tweeting that unfortunately the bullet missed trump because its great when fascists die?
Apparently German ministers can confiscate assets without even a court order...Can't do that even in the FUSA...Apparently, the Stasi just changed its name and continued operations...
Yes, they cleverly arranged the income tax to make it part of life...It was passed with some dubious maneuvers in the first place, but you can't fight wars, as they love to do, without a lot of taxes from the peasants...
You are referring to the temporary seizure of assets used directly in a crime...In theory, and sometimes in practice, you get them back if the crime isn't proven...Not quite the same thing...
Try the seizure of (expensive) bump stocks declared contraband by presidential fiat four years ago, owners told to surrender them or be imprisoned. Four years later, the Supreme Court says the seizure was unconstitutional... well after people's expensive equipment has already been destroyed.
It's the same thing....SCOTUS really needs to address the issue of asset forfeitures...But no law can restrain a criminal government which doesn't care about the law....
Well, as an attorney, I'm quite sure I could get it back, but for the average person, it might be too burdensome and expensive, which is what they are counting on.....There is really no practical way to fight a powerful and lawless central government...
"Come get your porn here! You got a fetish, no matter how extreme and profane it may sound and look, c'mon Germans, show us what you got! Dogs, horses, kids, vegetables, Nero-style orgies, don't be ashamed! Verdammt, I've probably done it! We're the land of freedom and free speech, let your kink flag fly in the Deutschland of freedom!"
Thanks for this write up. At lunchtime I went to the local train station to try and buy the most recent issue just to see for myself what all the fuss was about, but they had already been removed from the shelves.
The first-person language used by Faeser, I find remarkable: "Today I have banned the right-wing extremist Compact magazine." Not a government office/department/ministry or constitutional court, etc. but "I", she, herself is responsible for this banning. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
'The first-person language used by Faeser, I find remarkable: "Today I have banned the right-wing extremist Compact magazine." Not a government office/department/ministry or constitutional court, etc. but "I", she, herself is responsible for this banning. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.'
As soon as AFD will get a significant amount of votes they will move to the center and destroy the whole party. I saw this playbook in my country multiple times. If people believe you can vote yourself out of an abusive relationship they should take more safe and effective.
The only question I, as an East German who grew up in the DDR, have is this: How far will it go this time? Will we get mass arrests of political opponents? A wall with barbed wire and armed guards to keep us from leaving? Concentration camps? What keeps me from leaving is the hope that it won't be quite so bad, and my whole family living here. But I am seriously scared now.
Our situation is unprecedented in recent history; it's difficult to say how it will continue.
The best analogy seems to me the last 200 years of Rome: just a slow, endless decline into ever-worsening conditions for every Roman. I fear that is in store for us.
These people in control are not ideologues. They are simply faceless party bureaucrats who are good for absolutely nothing except getting ahead in the party. They aren't even competent bureaucrats.
Their only real aim is to keep their jobs and pensions. They will continue to exploit the citizens, taking more and more through increased taxes, restrictions on inheritance, and so on.
They won't build a wall to keep you from leaving. They will simply take everything you own while you remain here.
It will be fascinating to see how this story develops in an age of alternative media easily accessible online. Setting apart for a minute that censorship was generally counterproductive, it was also difficult. Today it is practically impossible.
On a different level, this reeks of desperation. I am sure "the authorities" have considered banning AfD altogether, and concluded this was legally impossible, so they are doing these work-arounds.
Also gave me a chuckle, though I think Eugyppius allowed himself a little licence with his translation. Methinks it was more intended as "intellectual firebrands".
The results of the German government in the 1930s may have been sucessful in the short term, but it directly led to Germany's disasters in 1945. It led to the death of 4.5 million soldiers and a further 2 million civilians. And that's not counting the millions of Europeans either shot, gassed in concentration camps or starved to death. I'm not sure you would call that 'working'.
Moreover, Germany's political punishment was to be divided into two separate nations for more than 40 years and to have most of its 1930s political leaders either committing suicide or hanged as war criminals. Germany of the 1930s thus produced what most would agree is the purest form of human evil ever devised.
That's what the Socialists always squeal, "This time we will get it right."
Except they cannot get it right ever. Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot: all mass murderers. Some like Che Guevara were simply insane murderers who loved inflicting death on others. (He was so dangerous even Fidel Castro found it necessary to get rid of him by arranging for the CIA to dispose of him in Bolivia.) Or Pol Pot. He and the Khmer Rouge seemed to love killing their fellow-citizens just because.
The beginning of socialism arguably was the French Revolution. Despite its high ideals, the First Republic was still a regime of mass murder until the dictator Napoleon Bonaparte put an end to it.
I agree with you: dealing effectively with the future is NOT their strong suit. Every time they try to put in place another Plato's Republic, it turns into a murder-fest. Surely after centuries of ONLY getting it wrong, they should have learned by now.
I'm simply speechless - not only about the utter disregard for the Grundgesetz, nor about this 'devastating blow' by by Ms Faeser aimed at the AfD, but about the sheer political stupidity exhibited by that woman. Does she really think that e.g. 3rd parties will be quiet about not being paid for their work 'because we say so'? Does she really think that this won't go before the courts, providing headlines in the run-up to the elections in Saxony, Thuringia and Brandenburg? Really?
Or, more sinister, is this the first step to declare the whole AfD as being 'verfassungsfeindlich', i.e. a danger to the constitution and thus ban the party just before those elections?
Anyone recalling the beginnings of the DDR will recognise the trajectory ...
Perhaps she should cut through the confusion and, on behalf of the international elites, declare us all to be untermenschen. Forgive me if I mis-spelt that as I am not a German speaker.
The elites clearly regard us as a nuisance at best and an undeserving group of people.
Well spelled! Indeed, this is what happens when those who declare us as 'deplorables', only good enough to pay taxes and vote as they demand, have the power - or think they have the power - to do as they see fit.
Nah - that won't happen because she and her lot are using the communist playbook. the NSDAP lasted 12 years - the soviet Union 79 years, the DDR 40 years: it's obvious which one was more successful. German MSM are mostly 'red', under a thin veneer of 'liberalism'. The people know, especially those from the former DDR.
How many similarities there are between fascists and commies - that is a debate for another day.
"The editorial team saw Compact as a counterpoint to the allegedly ‘synchronised’ media landscape of ‘standardised media’. This self-image culminated in the advertising slogan ‘Courage to tell the truth’ and ‘Read what others are not allowed to write’. "
Obviously grave threats to democracy and free speech.. what nerve, eh?
On the other hand we have the New York Times with "All the News That's Fit to Print". At least they're more (unintentionally) honest in admitting they will only print what they believe is fitting.
These aren't even normal police officers, but as Eugyppius pointed out SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) troops. They used a SWAT team to raid a publisher's house. These people are despicable.
Riri, agreed. So how are the Spez... any different from the Shutzstaffel or the Gestapo? Or the KGB? Or the Red Guards of the PRC in the 1960s? Or the Khmer Rouge? The only difference I can tell is that the Spez... have not yet graduated to having a licence to kill people deemed "undesirable".
The actual reason is to prevent reprisal against their family-members.
When european police (on the rare occassions they are allowed to) target migrant organised crime, such as moslem rape gangs, slave smuggling negros, and drug&weapons-smuggling afghans (you can move around the ethnicities as you please), the gangs invariably go after the children and spouses of officers and prosecutors involved in the operations.
Therefore, it has long been standard practice for special police forces to work masked, out of necessity.
Here in Sweden, it is now so bad that they are considering anonymising prosecutors and judges too, essentially creating face-less anonymous courts, simply because "arabs will arab" and attack defenceless innocents whenver they can.
You can certainly see where all this is headed. After all, anyone who criticises the decision to ban COMPACT is, in a way, abetting 'the extreme-right'.
That puts you in their crosshairs too, E.
And, if I cross the border into Germany, me too.
Or, given the power of European Arrest Warrants, I already am.
Nothing. As was shown in the one US city that are governed now by them and also the anti-israel protests all over the world where the flags were ripped from the hands of protesters. These people are really stpid
Obviously that will also be the fault of the "far right".
The Brahmin Left will claim (they already do) that the poor sacred innocent immigrant has been warped and poisoned by the trauma inflicted by those other Bad Germans, who, by not welcoming them into the country with unconditional love, have caused grave wounds to their self-esteem.
Thus the only answer to that will be more silencing of the Bad Germans and more generous benefits and more immigration to make the immigrant feel better and more open to eventually converting to the Social Justice faith.
The Left can only create the same output regardless of the input. They live by their sacred creed and would rather die (or at least have their country die) than give it up.
Its actually worse than woke cancel culture, IMO. Some SJW or has been actor calling for the demise of a long held institution is bad enough, especially when tacitly approved by the controlling parties, but this is an official, published government edict. Openly censoring, as a matter of policy, allows us to imagine the next steps.
They are scared shitless. Profound weakness.
Nothing else to add. Another banger E!
Typical Germans, banning the expression of alternative political viewpoints not approved by the German deity, i.e., the State. Hallowed be its name. Are there enough of the offending magazines in print form for a good old traditional German book burning.
Scared people often do stupid things.
You all need to broadcast this IDIOTIC BEHAVIOUR far and wide and DO NOT STOP until the fascist urge in the idiot Left is put back in its box.
It won't be relegated to a box, it must be defeated. The Left has no cogent argument and thus only the power of the state and the threat of violence to carry the day.
I love your attitude!...;p]
One thinks of a jack-in-the-box....
Sounds like apartheid South Africa, we lived through all of this, before democracy reached us, journalist jailed tortured and more.
Wonderful you replaced it with necklacing, torturing farmers, destroying your infrastructure. Hope you're enjoying your new diverse SA.
Please provide a list of Journalists that were tortured.
Please detail what you mean by "and more".
Every person (18+) in South Africa had the vote before "democracy reached us" so what exactly does that mean?
Zimbabwe Namibia and South Africa had dictatorships imposed on them through false 'elections'. Muzorewa-Smith were leading in Zimbabwe and then no results for 48 hours and Mugabe declared the winner. Turnhalle alliance were leading in Namibia and then no results for 24 hours and SWAPO declared the winner. IFP-Conservatives were leading in SA and then 36 hours of silence and ANC were declared the winner.
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ~
George Orwell.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." -- George Orwell, 1984
You are either ignorant or stupid.
The easiest is to refer you to this article: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064227908532927 I was born in the fifties so I was fed "racism" with my mothers milk and were also not allowed to ask questions. It is true we had the vote, such as it was, but you do agree that it was not real democracy. I am not saying anything about the situation today were for white people if feels as if the situation has been reversed. I do not want to go into a lengthy discussion about our history now, I know a lot more that you seem to think I do, but that is not what this article is about, it is about freedom of speech and all I say as that we also did not have freedom of speech and indoctrination in our schools were the standard. I am also not commenting on the situation in our country at the moment, you seem to be well informed so there is no need.
Please do not just assume that I am clueless.
Having read the article to the end, there is not a single reference to a "tortured" journalist. As a young person I wanted to know what Biko's appeal and his philosophy was. I was 'attacked' as a kafferboetie regularly, so I studied Biko and his sole message (like Malema today) was take it from the whites. Not a single thought except to steal.
Segregation was and remains the only solution to this world. It gets in the way of global domination and thus Verwoerd and all who actually work and understand peoples who are not the same as them will be vilified and or assassinated. The three (relatively) successful countries were Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland. They are still the most peaceful countries in Africa, as they are based purely on tribes.
I did not assume you were 'clueless', I assumed that you did not have any facts and were basing your comments on nonsensical propaganda.
It seems I was correct.
> so I studied Biko and his sole message (like Malema today) was take it from the whites. Not a single thought except to steal.
Given that the whites in this case invaded, settled, enslaved, and seggregated a place far away from their homeland that they had no reason to be in the first place, it sounds about right.
Who stole from whom again?
First White (Dutch) did not invade. Second they did not enslave anyone in South Africa. Third nobody was in a place far from their homeland and the whole point of "Apartheid" was to ensure that they kept and lived in their Homelands.
There were no blacks in the cape when the Dutch arrived and there was no clashes until some 200 years after, as the blacks moved down the coast to the Fish river and stole white cattle.
The only slaves in south africa were Malays brought to grow vegetables for the DEIC ships on their route to the east. No African Blacks were enslaved by Dutch, Boers or English.
Your ignorance is astounding.
I can see you are reeling for an argument. I give you "beaten up" is probably not "torture" and I know about the propaganda on both sides. Some of the things that went on I witnessed with my own eyes. Maybe trivial in your eyes, but farmers beating workers never looked right to me.
If one says that one system was bad it does not mean that the one that replaced is better, maybe worse as both of us know. And I have to be honest I do not have an acceptable resolution. (Malema will scream and carry on about anything that gets him attention and draws the attention away from his expensive shoes at the Durban July or his chauffeur driven SUV that takes his children to their expensive private school)
There is no doubt that the present regime has only one agenda and that is enriching themselves and we once again do not have total freedom of speech as I am sure you know. As I said, this is a really long and detailed conversation that has nothing to do with this article. Just rest assured that all my knowledge does not come from hearsay and propaganda, it comes from personal experience. Apart from that, so you really think we did not learn anything about our history.
To go further, my husband was a very active member of the youth league of the Nasional Party and the infamous "Rapportryers" so I do actually know a thing or two.
I am not giving an opinion of whether Apartheid was right or wrong neither am I giving an opinion of whether the present system is better, it is all one big mess!
I also have to be honest and admit that growing up in the 60's in South Africa was really fun. Whether it was morally right to enjoy it is not a question I can answer. As a teenage girl it was fun to be able to go to parties and walk back home at night or to go to the Illeky (I have no idea how to spell it) and taking the las bus back home was fun, I would be a hypocrite to deny that. As I said, all I did was make a comment about freedom of speech in those days and we both know there was none.
Freedom of speech was abundant, the only problem was that the solution was "Drive the whites into the sea", and we saw how that worked for the Indians of Tanganyika and Zanzibar.
There were dozens (hundreds) of "Black" newspapers, they told of the travails of blacks, they moaned about the government and laws, and as long as they did not call for violence or civil disobedience they operated freely.
I saw blacks beating blacks, attacking whites and (Soweto 1976) putting policemen bodies into dustbins and burning them. I drove ambulances into Soweto and Alex to pick up black accident victims and sick.
Some aspects of Apartheid were bad, all political systems have their bad aspects but I cannot keep quiet when lies and distortions are spread. There was no systemic torture, no denial of freedoms, no specific targeting of journalists any better or worse than any country or system in the world.
The biggest distortion is the idea that "Western Democracy" is the best or only system. Africa has/had it's own culture and it's own political systems. Western multi-party 'democracy' is a sham even in the west, and a disaster in Africa. The African solution to dissent is witch-smellers and now necklaces. I am making no moral judgements on whether that is good or bad, it merely is what is.
I love Africa and the African culture, the white africans have nothing to apologise for. Anglo American stole SA from the Afrikaner and took their billions to London by putting the ANC in power. They still hold all the power.
" lived through all of this, before democracy reached us"
SA sounds way better before democracy reached you. How's that load shedding going?
Unfortunately I have to agree for us it was a lot better but not for black people. No load shedding at the moment.
I would seriously warn people against using "they are scared" rhetorics when authorities are walking over you. Have seen this narrative playing out among Russian opposition for 20+ years every time they got trampled by the state. No one says it anymore.
I understand the emotional appeal to portrait the power balance in your favour, I do. It's also dangerously misleading.
No, when the powers are scared they behave differently. They appease, they negotiate, they join.
Humiliate and mock the individuals BY NAME - the Left are acutely weak and vain, that's why they operate in mobs for their strength. Single them out with good arguments, show them to be stupid and they crumble, the others get the message. The same with any bullies in a mob, stand your ground, take down the big one with a good punch, the rest think 'oh, I think I'll go and tidy my bedroom'. Seen any of these vids where some big guys deal with antifa thugs? More humiliation is needed for Klaus Schwab.
It's the EU/NATO two headed monster.
Rule of law is a great punchline to the worlds worst joke. Did police raid Sebastian Hotz for tweeting that unfortunately the bullet missed trump because its great when fascists die?
Apparently German ministers can confiscate assets without even a court order...Can't do that even in the FUSA...Apparently, the Stasi just changed its name and continued operations...
pyrrhus ,all states confiscate without court order .It's called taxation
🙁😅
Yes, they cleverly arranged the income tax to make it part of life...It was passed with some dubious maneuvers in the first place, but you can't fight wars, as they love to do, without a lot of taxes from the peasants...
Uhhh, actually, they can and do.
You are referring to the temporary seizure of assets used directly in a crime...In theory, and sometimes in practice, you get them back if the crime isn't proven...Not quite the same thing...
Try the seizure of (expensive) bump stocks declared contraband by presidential fiat four years ago, owners told to surrender them or be imprisoned. Four years later, the Supreme Court says the seizure was unconstitutional... well after people's expensive equipment has already been destroyed.
It's the same thing....SCOTUS really needs to address the issue of asset forfeitures...But no law can restrain a criminal government which doesn't care about the law....
No. The seizure happens administratively and good luck fighting it. "Oh," says the officer, "you are carrying cash. I'll take that. And your car."
Sure, you have the right to challenge it; good luck. I guess one might argue it's not the same thing. ;%)
Well, as an attorney, I'm quite sure I could get it back, but for the average person, it might be too burdensome and expensive, which is what they are counting on.....There is really no practical way to fight a powerful and lawless central government...
Looks like El Hotzo have Bell's Palsy: https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.juWaUIe-2nep58kICmg2nwHaE8&w=173&h=185&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&pid=3.1&rm=2
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Hotzo
Also from Nancy Faeser:
"Come get your porn here! You got a fetish, no matter how extreme and profane it may sound and look, c'mon Germans, show us what you got! Dogs, horses, kids, vegetables, Nero-style orgies, don't be ashamed! Verdammt, I've probably done it! We're the land of freedom and free speech, let your kink flag fly in the Deutschland of freedom!"
Only half joking.
"El Hotzo vs. Trump (Round 1 💥)" [snicklink AI parody]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5gAOXAJtL4
Thanks for this write up. At lunchtime I went to the local train station to try and buy the most recent issue just to see for myself what all the fuss was about, but they had already been removed from the shelves.
The first-person language used by Faeser, I find remarkable: "Today I have banned the right-wing extremist Compact magazine." Not a government office/department/ministry or constitutional court, etc. but "I", she, herself is responsible for this banning. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
'The first-person language used by Faeser, I find remarkable: "Today I have banned the right-wing extremist Compact magazine." Not a government office/department/ministry or constitutional court, etc. but "I", she, herself is responsible for this banning. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.'
That struck me also.
They mean to rule, and they richly deserve to.
Due process? Who needs due process when we're on the right side?
Due process?!…we don’t need no stinking due process…
LEFT Side!
Have they also managed to wipe it from the Internet Archive?
It's the pinned tweet at her Federal Ministry of Interior:
https://x.com/BMI_Bund/status/1813096662052839846
"Ich habe heute das rechtsextremistische Compact Magazin verboten."
She's a Merkel disciple.
Indeed, La Faeser has committed treason.
The more the German government cracks down on AfD and its supporters, the more people will sympathize with AfD and vote for them.
Danno ,what does AfD stand for ? Does it stand for Adolf for Deutschland ?
Exactly...an unpopular regime always ends up resorting to vote fraud, and France shows how effective that can be...
As soon as AFD will get a significant amount of votes they will move to the center and destroy the whole party. I saw this playbook in my country multiple times. If people believe you can vote yourself out of an abusive relationship they should take more safe and effective.
They may be stupid enough to think they can win.
That's the question
All those years I wasted reading all about history. It was gonna come around anyway and school me in person.
I think you could market that on T-shirts and coffee mugs.
OK to repeat for non-commercial use?
Sure!
I guess their SS uniforms were at the cleaners. No worries, we see your cowardly tyranny.
This is good summary.
But IMO it is impossible to explain how terrible this really feels for a German. (And I have never even read that magazin).
It reminds one of very dark times.
It's a throwback to Germany of the 1930s.
Is it? This seems very anti-german to me.
Was the 1930s?
Never heard of the NSDAP?
The magazine in question that was banned accused of being right-wing extremist. A better analogy is DDR and the Stasi.
The only question I, as an East German who grew up in the DDR, have is this: How far will it go this time? Will we get mass arrests of political opponents? A wall with barbed wire and armed guards to keep us from leaving? Concentration camps? What keeps me from leaving is the hope that it won't be quite so bad, and my whole family living here. But I am seriously scared now.
Our situation is unprecedented in recent history; it's difficult to say how it will continue.
The best analogy seems to me the last 200 years of Rome: just a slow, endless decline into ever-worsening conditions for every Roman. I fear that is in store for us.
These people in control are not ideologues. They are simply faceless party bureaucrats who are good for absolutely nothing except getting ahead in the party. They aren't even competent bureaucrats.
Their only real aim is to keep their jobs and pensions. They will continue to exploit the citizens, taking more and more through increased taxes, restrictions on inheritance, and so on.
They won't build a wall to keep you from leaving. They will simply take everything you own while you remain here.
Anti-facist facism. You can't make this stuff up.
The official name of the Berlin Wall was "The Antifascist Protection Rampart".
It's not facism.
"Oppressive, dictatorial control"
Sure it is. By one of the definitions at least.
It’s Marxism, at least the Western version of it.
It will be fascinating to see how this story develops in an age of alternative media easily accessible online. Setting apart for a minute that censorship was generally counterproductive, it was also difficult. Today it is practically impossible.
On a different level, this reeks of desperation. I am sure "the authorities" have considered banning AfD altogether, and concluded this was legally impossible, so they are doing these work-arounds.
Are these work-arounds anything like reach arounds? 🤣
Urbit was made for a reason
And difference between Faeser doing this, and Putin doing this is?
A question no german "journalist" will ever ask her.
Tangent:
"...the spiritual arsonists..."
Think they opened a Die Toten Hosen-gig in the 80s?
Also gave me a chuckle, though I think Eugyppius allowed himself a little licence with his translation. Methinks it was more intended as "intellectual firebrands".
She's doing exactly what the German government in the 1930s did.
why not, it worked.
The results of the German government in the 1930s may have been sucessful in the short term, but it directly led to Germany's disasters in 1945. It led to the death of 4.5 million soldiers and a further 2 million civilians. And that's not counting the millions of Europeans either shot, gassed in concentration camps or starved to death. I'm not sure you would call that 'working'.
Moreover, Germany's political punishment was to be divided into two separate nations for more than 40 years and to have most of its 1930s political leaders either committing suicide or hanged as war criminals. Germany of the 1930s thus produced what most would agree is the purest form of human evil ever devised.
Are "most people" right about political doctrine that has been drilled into them?
I wouldn't say the Left has a firm grasp on the long view; would you? Besides, they are going to do it right this time.
That's what the Socialists always squeal, "This time we will get it right."
Except they cannot get it right ever. Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot: all mass murderers. Some like Che Guevara were simply insane murderers who loved inflicting death on others. (He was so dangerous even Fidel Castro found it necessary to get rid of him by arranging for the CIA to dispose of him in Bolivia.) Or Pol Pot. He and the Khmer Rouge seemed to love killing their fellow-citizens just because.
The beginning of socialism arguably was the French Revolution. Despite its high ideals, the First Republic was still a regime of mass murder until the dictator Napoleon Bonaparte put an end to it.
I agree with you: dealing effectively with the future is NOT their strong suit. Every time they try to put in place another Plato's Republic, it turns into a murder-fest. Surely after centuries of ONLY getting it wrong, they should have learned by now.
I'm simply speechless - not only about the utter disregard for the Grundgesetz, nor about this 'devastating blow' by by Ms Faeser aimed at the AfD, but about the sheer political stupidity exhibited by that woman. Does she really think that e.g. 3rd parties will be quiet about not being paid for their work 'because we say so'? Does she really think that this won't go before the courts, providing headlines in the run-up to the elections in Saxony, Thuringia and Brandenburg? Really?
Or, more sinister, is this the first step to declare the whole AfD as being 'verfassungsfeindlich', i.e. a danger to the constitution and thus ban the party just before those elections?
Anyone recalling the beginnings of the DDR will recognise the trajectory ...
Perhaps she should cut through the confusion and, on behalf of the international elites, declare us all to be untermenschen. Forgive me if I mis-spelt that as I am not a German speaker.
The elites clearly regard us as a nuisance at best and an undeserving group of people.
Well spelled! Indeed, this is what happens when those who declare us as 'deplorables', only good enough to pay taxes and vote as they demand, have the power - or think they have the power - to do as they see fit.
Yes, the people in East Germany say they recognize the rhetoric
Worse than the DDR. When does she assume the title of "gauleiter"? And how much further will she and her cronies push their conversion into the NSDAP?
Nah - that won't happen because she and her lot are using the communist playbook. the NSDAP lasted 12 years - the soviet Union 79 years, the DDR 40 years: it's obvious which one was more successful. German MSM are mostly 'red', under a thin veneer of 'liberalism'. The people know, especially those from the former DDR.
How many similarities there are between fascists and commies - that is a debate for another day.
The tools of power are just that; tools.
To say "this gang is the Cosa Nostra because they use blackmail", when it's really the Lansky syndicate doing it, is very stupid.
Parallels with Trump-adjacent events in the US are inevitable. Hamfisted is the perfect word.
But remember Merkel annulled the result of a regional election because the AfD had formed a coalition with the Free Democrats to govern it.
"The editorial team saw Compact as a counterpoint to the allegedly ‘synchronised’ media landscape of ‘standardised media’. This self-image culminated in the advertising slogan ‘Courage to tell the truth’ and ‘Read what others are not allowed to write’. "
Obviously grave threats to democracy and free speech.. what nerve, eh?
Sort of like "Democracy dies in darkness" (WaPo).
On the other hand we have the New York Times with "All the News That's Fit to Print". At least they're more (unintentionally) honest in admitting they will only print what they believe is fitting.
Why the cops are wearing masks? Shame?
standard SEK presentation, the officers' identities are withheld from the public and they only appear masked.
Nothing instills confidence in Justice as much as hidden identities.
Holy shit. That is scary.
At least the Gestapo had the courage to show their faces /s
Colombia?Mexico?Ecuador?El Salvador?..no the most important member of the EU
These aren't even normal police officers, but as Eugyppius pointed out SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) troops. They used a SWAT team to raid a publisher's house. These people are despicable.
Riri, agreed. So how are the Spez... any different from the Shutzstaffel or the Gestapo? Or the KGB? Or the Red Guards of the PRC in the 1960s? Or the Khmer Rouge? The only difference I can tell is that the Spez... have not yet graduated to having a licence to kill people deemed "undesirable".
"not yet graduated to having a licence to kill people deemed "undesirable"."
That we know of
You really need to try to figure out the answer to your own question, Colin.
The answer was given - there is no meaningful difference among any of them.
You still don't get it. I'll use short words.
It's a war.
Both sides use bullets so you say, "hey, look, they're the same because they both are firing bullets".
I'm telling you, one side is fighting for me and my people; the other side is fighting against me and my people.
That's the difference.
They learned it from the Americans, who learned it from the Germans.
To protect others from a deadly respiratory virus. Come on, everyone knows that.
They wear masks because they have something to hide.
*DING DING DING*
WE HAVE A WINNER!
The actual reason is to prevent reprisal against their family-members.
When european police (on the rare occassions they are allowed to) target migrant organised crime, such as moslem rape gangs, slave smuggling negros, and drug&weapons-smuggling afghans (you can move around the ethnicities as you please), the gangs invariably go after the children and spouses of officers and prosecutors involved in the operations.
Therefore, it has long been standard practice for special police forces to work masked, out of necessity.
Here in Sweden, it is now so bad that they are considering anonymising prosecutors and judges too, essentially creating face-less anonymous courts, simply because "arabs will arab" and attack defenceless innocents whenver they can.
You can certainly see where all this is headed. After all, anyone who criticises the decision to ban COMPACT is, in a way, abetting 'the extreme-right'.
That puts you in their crosshairs too, E.
And, if I cross the border into Germany, me too.
Or, given the power of European Arrest Warrants, I already am.
The liberal woke cancel culture at full display.
Just wait, once Muslims will have taken over Europe and removed all our rights those same woke idiots will be the first to complain.
What will the wokies do when the Muslims start tearing down their gay flags?
Probably be dumb enough and cheer them on as can clearly be seen with the retarded lbgt+ for palastine crowd.
They are not really the smartest people and just jump on any cause to distract from their miserable lives.
Accuse normal people for being "nazis" and for being so racist that normal people are provoking moslems to be angry at homos.
Nothing. As was shown in the one US city that are governed now by them and also the anti-israel protests all over the world where the flags were ripped from the hands of protesters. These people are really stpid
Obviously that will also be the fault of the "far right".
The Brahmin Left will claim (they already do) that the poor sacred innocent immigrant has been warped and poisoned by the trauma inflicted by those other Bad Germans, who, by not welcoming them into the country with unconditional love, have caused grave wounds to their self-esteem.
Thus the only answer to that will be more silencing of the Bad Germans and more generous benefits and more immigration to make the immigrant feel better and more open to eventually converting to the Social Justice faith.
The Left can only create the same output regardless of the input. They live by their sacred creed and would rather die (or at least have their country die) than give it up.
Its actually worse than woke cancel culture, IMO. Some SJW or has been actor calling for the demise of a long held institution is bad enough, especially when tacitly approved by the controlling parties, but this is an official, published government edict. Openly censoring, as a matter of policy, allows us to imagine the next steps.
Ironically those leftist accusing everybody of being a Nazi are way worse than the Nazis. But they just do it to defend "democracy".
That's because they're Bolsheviks. And words have no meaning to them. Just tools to abuse.
Tell us you're helpless and scared without telling us that you're helpless and scared, Nancy.