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The Curious LP's avatar

I had spent precisely zero minutes thinking about German politics until I discovered this newsletter (I was perhaps happier then) but I now I can’t look away. It’s so much more insane than I ever could have guessed. There isn’t a newsletter I open more quickly than this one. Thanks eugyppius (I guess).

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Gilgamech's avatar

Yes, remember that age of innocence when we all thought Germans were practical, sensible, logical?

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air dog's avatar

Seriously. At this point, they might as well be Italians. ;)

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Count Tilly's avatar

Actually, the Italians seem to be the only sensible ones in Western Europe. Dr Venkman should have included that with "Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!”

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Henrybowman's avatar

🎶 "Intellectual, vegetable..."

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David Weiss's avatar

I too, am a teenager of the 70's 😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP8iUyb9Gn8

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

No.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Me too.

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East Anglian's avatar

"I was perhaps happier then". This phrase really struck me. I like the world-weary air of resignation it conjures up. I must start using it.

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RiverHollow's avatar

It's kind of twisted. As Bowden would say "if you're laughing, you're losing."

Just wanting to point and laugh at our enemies as some here do is not a serious stance to take, and is terribly naive. As silly as apparatchiks can be, our enemy taken as a whole is no laughing matter. Insofar as they are a joke, we are the butt of it.

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Warmek's avatar

I understand what you are saying, but some times you just have to laugh so you won't cry.

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Danielle's avatar

As I am married to a German-born Australian and have German in laws, it greatly interests me.

Sometimes it’s fun to wind up my father in law! 😉. He’s definitely of the MSM worshipping class.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Ask him if it's okay to do the salute with a closed fist, like Anders Breivk, who gunned down 50 or so Socialist Youth on Utoya Island. Remember Breivik described himself as a "Conservative Christian" and is staunchly pro-Israel. He isn't a Nazi. Does that make the closed fist salute okay?

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Gregg's avatar

Dodgy event... like Manchester Arena, 'could have been staged!

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CS's avatar

Same here!

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Mitch's avatar

Same here

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Jeff's avatar

What would happen if a person posted this picture online without any commentary? Would they be charged with posting Nazi content? And if so wouldn’t the authorities have to then concede that the person in the picture was in fact giving a Nazi salute? Otherwise it’s just a picture of a guy gesturing

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air dog's avatar
2dEdited

The law empowers authorities to charge anyone who has an arm. But they prosecute only people they dislike. That's the problem.

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Patrick's avatar

It all seems quite armless to me.

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air dog's avatar

In 'artford, 'ereford and 'ampshire, 'urricanes 'ardly hever 'appen.

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Danielle's avatar

😂

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Tardigrade's avatar

"My nephew is *this* tall."

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Jeff's avatar

The taller your nephew is the more likely the authorities will arrest you for a Nazi salute

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Scott Mc's avatar

That would be smart, writing in small print a reason for it might work for the writer, of course Elon doing the "My heart goes out to you gesture" which was pretty obvious why he was doing has him now a paid up member of the N's...

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

.... and I thought it was your dog leaping ...

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Tamenund's avatar

Pity the poor kid at the amusement park who wants to know how tall he has to be to get on a ride...

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SureyaSuzanne's avatar

Good point!

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Good question.

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Danno's avatar

If enough people re-posted it with funny captions that either made fun of Lauterbach, or to used it mirror similar photos of AfD politicians raising their arm (the latter of which were first used by government-adjacent media to smear the AfD), then, yes, the authorities can (and will!) charge someone with simply posting the picture online. The statutes are vague enough that they practically beg for selective enforcement against political opponents.

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Gail Finke's avatar

That is one of the craziest stories I've ever read. "Never have Nazis been in such great demand and such short supply." -- so true! In my city, after Trump's inauguration a bunch of white men in matching outfits and masks showed up in a rented car and rented truck full of "white supremacist" signs to stand on a highway overpass by a mostly-black neighborhood. Police hauled them off after they refused to leave, but strangely none of them has ever been identified, even though they and their vehicles were detained. No news media pressed to have anyone reveal or explain who they were or why they came from out of town to stand in front a neighborhood no one outside our area has ever heard of, and the municipal leaders are STILL making posts about how brave they are and how "hate has no home here" as if neo-Nazis are a dime a dozen here. But they were obviously fake, and obviously sent here by someone, and no one seems to care who or why.

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Danielle's avatar

We have a group here in Oz that are very similar. Turn up at any patriotic event, completely covered in black clothes, hoods, masks and sunglasses. Associated, naturally, by the media as “far right, neo Nazis”, but given the care and attention given to anonymity and the foiling of facial recognition technology, I suspect that they are government agents.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

And zero curiousity from journalists. I asked questions on the Spectator site. Crickets! Lazy journalists and police just label them neo Nazis. Zero curiosity.

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Throgmorton's avatar

Antifa is effectively an NGO. There is certainly collusion with the government, and a lot of dark money behind them. There is nothing grass-roots or organic about Antifa.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

All the lefties in the states initially tried to blame Antifa on right wing extremism. Couldn’t stick after a couple of years.,

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AndyinBC's avatar

"I suspect that they are government agents"

I suspect that a significant percentage of all so-called "protest" activity, world wide, may be false flag operations, performative psy-ops by agents of, or persons hired to sell the panic de jour.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

“Patriot Front?”

Those guys fell away faster than a dress on prom night.

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Eidein's avatar
2dEdited

I met them when they staged their shit in berkeley in 2017. I'm just some guy spouting off first impressions, but they did _not_ seem like glowbois to me. They seemed like a bunch of hilarious asshole trolls who found a moment to mess with people, and did. And since I don't like the people they're messing with, I'm not going to speak out too hard against them.

As far as I can tell, they staged their Berkeley rally for absolutely no reason other than 'hahaha those liberals will shit their pants if we do this'

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Gail Finke's avatar

While that sounds very on-brand for trolls in Berkley, they are not likely to come all the way to Ohio to troll when California is a target-rich environment.

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Eidein's avatar

Fair. I have no comment on that, plus, I mean, I low key assume every group like this is sponsored and orchestrated by _some_ state actor

I just meant to contribute that I don't think they're some super elaborate conspiracy, or even a false front. I think they're just guys with a fun sense of humour

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Perhaps we’ll find out some day. My Q is…. Perhaps the real enemy to humanity is just Ai as soon it will potentially control all online discourse and if paychecks or missiles get their “go” button pushed or not. Sorry, OT. Lol

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Late night update….

Hot off the Press!

Kash Patel identified two Patriot Front. They’re funded by George Soros.

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Eidein's avatar

I'm pretty sure Q is a bunch of trolls fucking with everybody.

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Tardigrade's avatar

That's certainly one plausible possibility.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Are you still in Berkeley? I’ll be up that way end of summer.

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Eidein's avatar

Unfortunately not. I left California for Texas the better part of a decade ago. If you're ever in Austin tho, say hi!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

👍🏿

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Throgmorton's avatar

They are Feds. Patriot Front = the Spook Klux Klan.

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

They will be back in a year or so. Midterms approach.

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Myriad Mike's avatar

Nope, they are still around, and just as active, and larger than ever. Growing daily. Don't believe the MSM, I know!

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RiverHollow's avatar

Patriot Front is still going strong. Whatever you may think of them, they are organized while most can't even manage to be on good terms with their neighbors.

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CS's avatar

Hah!

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

The same thing happened here in a Let Women Speak rally in Melbourne. But these ‘neo Nazis’ were laughing and joking with the police. No curiousity shown by the ‘journalist’ class.

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Danielle's avatar

Australia Day in SA and now Anzac Day too.

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Scott Mc's avatar

Paid protestors I would guess, would be easy enough for authorities to know who..

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Mitch's avatar

Ever see someone before arrested in handcuffs still wearing a balaclava? No, me neither. Definitely a deep state paid psyop

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Henrybowman's avatar

"a bunch of white men in matching outfits and masks showed up in a rented car and rented truck full of "white supremacist" signs"

There really ridiculous part is that in one of their first appearances in 2021, one of the "white supremacist" protestors was... black.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/glenn-youngkin-aide-accuses-terry-mcauliffe-team-of-fake-white-supremacist-stunt/

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Chixbythesea's avatar

You’re not supposed to notice.

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Tamenund's avatar

I think that was a Dave Chappelle skit.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Steve Martin did a different take on it in The Jerk.

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RiverHollow's avatar

I, too, am part of that demand for National Socialists, but the kind who would put this farce of a political system in its place.

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Paulette's avatar

Probably sent by an NGO😉

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Erik Hoffmann's avatar

Eugyppius' Law: Every time you think you’ve finally hit the limit and that surely this is the dumbest speech case ever, a new even dumber one happens around the corner.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Germany and the UK are the top contenders.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Both fiercely fighting for supremacy in stupidity ...

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Erik Hoffmann's avatar

Over the Top stupid - Germoney burning vs Sun dimming Yookay:

https://x.com/ErikHoffma35980/status/1915850648773448002

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Henrybowman's avatar

Dimming the sun over the British Isles is as intelligent as installing walk-in freezers at McMurdo.

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Danielle's avatar

Yep, while they cover land in solar panels. You just can’t make this stupidity up! 🙄

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Henrybowman's avatar

Ayn Rand famously contended, "A is A."

Big Brother famously contended "not-A is A" (freedom is slavery, etc.)

Just look for the countries that live by the latter rules instead of the former, and you will find all the censorship and two-tier "justice" you can stomach.

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Toni Weisskopf's avatar

Not stupid at all, if your ultimate goal is to undermine Western confidence in rule of law.

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eugyppius's avatar

look, you guys want to believe this is some hyperclever strategy, a lot of you will never be convinced otherwise. but this is just a deeply retarded prosecution that makes all involved look like morons.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Either hyperclever strategy to alienate people from their government or just the same old, same old “scales-in-front-of-eyes” by retarded power seekers as alluded to in places like Old and New Testament. 🤔

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Same result tho, right?

At this point it's a distinction without difference imo.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Anybody noticed that Klabauterbach raised his RIGHT arm whereas police officer Fritsch raised his LEFT one ??? ... Maybe, that is all the difference ... 🤣🤣🤣

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Gingerbread's avatar

Yeah, what does it matter whether it is intentional, or organically moving there, if the results are the same.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

When most all of the leaders, politicians, judges, prosecutors, media, are actual Nazi's - descendants of actual Nazi's anyways, who were eugenicists (traits, values transfer to the the next generation) - and they get über-defensive about Nazi symbolism, resorting to Nazi totalitarian governance and political prosecutions it's not an unreasonable leap to believe there's some nefarious Nazi-related strategy in play.

Kind of like when a domestic abuser tells their victim not to call it abuse if they don't want to meet the back of a fast moving hand

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: most all of the leaders, politicians, judges, prosecutors, media, are actual Nazi's - descendants of actual Nazi's anyways, who were eugenicists ...

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The National Socialists were far from alone in believing in eliminationist eugenics. Almost all the "nice" people in the West casually advocated murder or at least sterilization of humans regarded as "inferior stock" (note the horse-breeding lingo) as late as the 1940s. G.K. Chesterton was one of the few to take a principled stand against eugenicist ideas.

In the 1920s, the Ford foundation organized high-powered missions to Germany to spread the eugenicist creed.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Choosing Audience for Brieux Play

JD Rockefeller, Jr Suggests Those Who Have Aided White Slave Investigation

Social Workers Approve Think the Drama Will Impress the Moral of Eugenics

- Proceeds for Education

New York Times, Sunday, February 23,1913, Page 13

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-new-york-times-edward-l-bernays-m/31090629/

"White Slavery" was the term for human trafficking, prostitution. The objective of the play was to stop wealthy men of privileged genes from sleeping around with lower class women, breeding with them. No mixing of the high class gene pools with lower classes. Eugenics. Population control. But the real story in this is who the VIP's are. You'll recognize many names. And for those you don't if you search the webs a little you'll find many names high society names, industrialists, descendants of founding fathers, early Big Pharma, religious leaders. Yes. Many "nice" people in the west actually helped Nazi's come to power. Two US Presidents are descendants of one who even traded with the enemy *during* WWII, as "Hitler's Banker." And defendants on trial at Nuremberg cited US eugenics case law, "Buck v. Bell" "three generations of imbeciles is enough" in their defense. "You did it in the US, what's the big deal?" And they had a point.

That said, the US propaganda machine quickly pivoted as the drumbeats for entry into the war grew louder. And the Fascists/Eugenicists retreated into the background and had their histories whitewashed. The nation was galvanized to defeat totalitarianism, tried the "master race" proponents for their crimes against humanity.

But, you're right, the US is full of hypocrisy with the blood of tens of millions on our hands. Our "special relationship" partner in the UK with equally bloody hands, along for the ride the entire time, even driving it. Nazi Germany. Imperial Japan. Soviet Union. Communist China. ALL funded and supported by UK/US bankers, industrialists, politicians even while they opposed them as official UK/US policy.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Wow great find. The whole rogues’ gallery out in force: John D. Rockefeller, Edward “Freud is my Uncle” Bernays, Rabbi Steven S. Wise, etc. All in 1913, …

The play was later performed for Woodrow “Wanted War” Wilson and his cabinet.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

- JD Rockefeller.

- State Senator Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

- Edward Bernays, father of modern propaganda, advertising. Both Joseph Goebbels and Madison Avenue, informed by his teachings. Coined the phrase "quack medicine" to discredit natural healers. Successfully.

- Simon and Abraham Flexner. Authors of the "Flexner Report." Used by legislators and congress to criminalize natural healers, put natural healing schools out of business, asserted allopathic (western) medicine as the only real "evidence-based" healing, effectively killing homeopathy, herbalism and naturopathy:

https://ac.news/the-1910-flexner-report-rockefellers-corporate-illusionists-create-foundation-and-framework-for-sick-care-medicine-over-a-century-ago/

- Rabbi Stephen S Wise. He is an enigma. He was the Jesse Jackson of American Jewry in the first half of the 20th century. A Zionist who's early work to establish a Jewish homeland in the British Palestine Mandate eventually led to the establishment of the State of Israel. He was FDR's most senior Jewish influencer. Did a lot of good for Jews. But...he also was who helped conceal the true horrors of the Holocaust from FDR and the public, and opposed efforts to expose it. I found this Wikipedia write up on him interesting. Particularly the section "Criticism":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Samuel_Wise

And Rabbi Wise was an ardent eugenicist. One of the early faith leaders to advance it. As highlighted in the following book link. It's not to say that Rabbi Wise supported the Holocaust. But it shows how even Jews can co-author their own holocaust with their grandiose ideas about "fixing" mankind:

Preaching Eugenics: Religious Leaders and the American Eugenics Movement

https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/42944393

"She specifically documents how Protestant, Jewish, and a limited number of Catholic religious leaders contributed to making American eugenics the foremost eugenics movement in the world by the 1920s and sought the creation of a 'good society" in America by means of those methods that the eugenics movement advocated: sterilization, immigration restriction, incarceration, intelligence testing, and statistical analysis applied to the racial/ethnic/genetic backgrounds of families."

"The American eugenics movement became the model used by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, who turned their zealousness for eugenics as the means of preserving the health of the nation into, first, the murder of the disabled, and, subsequently, the brutalization and murder of millions of innocent men, women, and children in the final solution."

Both Rabbi Leon Harrison of Temple Israel in St. Louis and Rabbi Stephen Wise publicly expressed opposition to intermarriage, but some Reform rabbis objected. The advocates of intermarriage did not view Jews as a race, while the opponents did (pp. 106-7). In 1915, Rabbi Max Reichler (1886-1957) wrote an essay seeking to reconcile the divergent views and reconcile Judaism with eugenics."

"Rabbi Wise subsequently followed Rabbi Reichler s lead in seeking accommodation (pp. 108-9). In the same way that Protestants and some Catholics had come to support eugenics, Jews also came to be numbered among the advocates of the movement in the early twentieth century."

- William J Schieffelin - Descendant of John Jay, first Supreme Court Chief Justice of the US. Family owned the oldest pharmaceutical company in the US, headed up early Big Pharma trade association. Eugenicist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jay_Schieffelin

https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1002%2Fjps.3080161113

- Abraham Jacobl, the first leading pediatrician, president of the American Medical Association. and a leading eugenicist:

https://stanforddaily.com/2019/11/18/eugenics-on-the-farm-ray-lyman-wilbur/

- Paul U Kellogg - another enigma. He is the father of the modern "Social Justice" movement. And supported eugenics. But it's hard to reconcile with his work to help blacks and other minorities. I suppose someone can be a eugenicist without being a racist. Just get rid of the undesirables, disabled, antisocials without regard to race?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_U._Kellogg

- Yale University Civics Club. Prescott Bush, father of George HW Bush was a student at Yale in 1913. And had been president of his high school civics club in 1912. His family was already tight with the Rockefeller's, his father, Samuel Bush, worked for Frank Rockefeller, John D Rockefeller's brother. Prescott Bush was a eugenicist, who was also "Hitler's Banker." And was one of the six Yale students in attendance.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

https://books.google.com/books?id=sQSvBYR0xKUC&pg=PT35&lpg=PT35&dq=%22prescott+bush%22+%22civics+club%22&source=bl&ots=y-gQTD9psX&sig=ACfU3U3mzt2Pd8cwb_q4hMGqry9k-rz8rA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiumLiu1sqEAxVwHNAFHViyBqIQ6AF6BAgJEAM#v=onepage&q=%22prescott%20bush%22%20%22civics%20club%22&f=false

- Mrs. W K Vanderbilt. Aka Anne Harriman who married into the Vanderbilt railroad dynasty. Daughter of Oliver Harriman, from a railroad tycoon family himself, handled the finances, went into banking. Brother of Edward Harriman. Partner in bank Prescott Bush worked for as "Hitler's Banker."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Harriman_Vanderbilt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kissam_Vanderbilt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Harriman

But wait, there's more! Next comment.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: descendants of actual [National Socialist bigwigs] ... get uber-defensive about [National Socialist] symbolism,

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Astute psychological observation.

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Peter Hönig's avatar

We have seen the 60min video. Did those Three Stooges give the impression of scheming masterminds?

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Pacific Observer's avatar

True (and thanks for the funny reference), but the Three Stooges (who were from three different locales in Germany) are EACH clearly receiving material and moral support from much higher up their RESPECTIVE chains of command, coming together at the very top (beyond Germany).

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Seb Thirlway's avatar

The problem is that it's hard to tell the difference. I was thinking hard about this last night. The "One Hand" theory is very appealing, because all you then have to do - according to relatively "primitive" implementations of paranoia (as exploded in Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow" - which I note some Austrian inspired crazy-person actually _ translated into German_

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfriede_Jelinek

wow!) - is to find the One Hand, expose it... and... You Are a Hero! The World Resounds With Your Truth!

But that just does not work. Hundreds of people more prominent than I (including Eugyppius) have been exposing the truth for 4 years now, and... nothing happens...

So I tend more to the Adam Smith Invisible Hand theory. It's more depressing. It's the idea that tens of thousands of people - let's say, German prosecutors, in this case - are acting as if in concert: but that there is no One Hand up their bums sockpuppeting them. They are doing it _independently_. Because they all sincerely _believe_ - supposedly independently - that this is not moronic. I call it metastasis, but that's getting close to a collapse back into the One Hand theory. And it's useless as a rhetorical attack-vector, because these people truly believe that they're acting independently; also that they are not morons, even in the face of irrefutable evidence that they are.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Yes but they are 5D retarded morons.

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SaHiB's avatar

Change the name "Deutschland" to "Dummkopfland"? (Apologies to AfD and a few others.)

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Many thanks for "the FEW ones" !!! ... 👍👍👍 🔥🔥🔥

SPOT ON !!!

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AndyinBC's avatar

"Look like" morons"??

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RiverHollow's avatar

That's more of a side effect that they're plenty willing to tolerate.

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KarlM Alias's avatar

Together with strokes, heart attacks, blood clots, kidney death, CJD, cancer,....

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Have you seen the latest Walter M Chesnut stack? Repeated infections of the virus many here say is non-existent, although of decreasing severity are linked to TURBOCANCER. This is the case for the jabbed as well as the unjabbed. The jabs don't save the jabbed.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

As you allude to, there is much demand across the West for Nazis, Klansmen, wifebeaters, gaybashers, Jew haters, skinheads, and other assorted Hollywood bad guys. Alas the supply seems constrained.

Surely an opportunity for some enterprising young men to make their fortune supplying these comedy villains from central casting?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They do that in the US already. They tried it with the group, “Patriot Front” which mysteriously died as soon as USAID funding was yanked. Imagine that.

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kertch's avatar

Joining "Patriot Front" was used to initiate and haze rookie FBI agents.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Why did they vanish? No more FBI hazing? Maybe they switched to dropping them off in the wilds of Alaska or Detroit as a test of survival skills.

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kertch's avatar

No, the point of the hazing was to do your best to act like a Nazi but not get "outed" as an FBI agent, otherwise you got blackballed. But with Kash and Bongino looking over everyone's shoulder, it's just too risky. Now, they have them shredding files and "swatting" conservatives.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Pro tip for FBI rookies - choose the sub-zero expanses of Alaska over urban Detroit.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Actually Detroit is now a Center for Urban Transformation WEF designate, and only East Detroit is really dangerous, since what it needs is jobs and education (not whole child illiteracy from the Governor) and clean healthy food and interventions, though what they get is a climate emergency shelter courtesy the WEF, for, I guess, when the glaciers return. The park near me, which was pretty Wild West in terms of illegal activity, now has been pesticided into lifelessness, has a police surveillance tower, and has trains-run-on-time levels of signage and bike lanes and handicapped parking so it looks very suburban, and a new Mt. Gentrification, haunted by the Canadian geese the governor is trying to eradicate. Detroit has no sidewalks, with 6 months at least of winter, and no one rides bikes, but the WEF through our Xi kissing Davos governor, is bestowing bike lanes. Though the side streets are never plowed. It was better as an urban jungle. Now it is a climate pseudo reality. The real danger is the increasing radicalization in Dearborn, and Hamtramack. Though MIchigan FBI spends their time creating fake kidnap plots to further the Gov's ambitions, raiding raw milk farms, and shutting down IV vitamin C clinics which were giving C to first responders during 2020. So it is fucked up here, but not for the old mythic reasons.

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ThePossum's avatar

Authentic danger versus simulated safety. Choose wisely.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Thanks for this interesting if somewhat depressing close-up view.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

You shouldn’t call Canadians “geese” however apt that might seem.

If you are referring to the bird, it’s a “Canada Goose”. Canada geese is the plural.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

A weird combo between woke virtue signaling and elite boredom. I hope Robert Barnes cleans their clocks on the milk issue.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

😂😂😂

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Tardigrade's avatar

I believe there are already occupiers of that entrepreneurial niche. For example, https://crowdsondemand.com/

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

That answers a lot of questions.

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kertch's avatar

True, but it's always easier to hire liberal Marxist protesters than fake Nazi ones.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Wow. How blatant. Just one more nail in the coffin of representative democracy.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Disturbing ...

Should call themselves: FAKE crowds on demand

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kertch's avatar

Those overt racists and white supremacists have been really hard to find too, considering that half the country voted for Trump and are racists and white supremacists.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

😂

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Gilgamech's avatar

Step forward Tommy Robinson, Nick Fuentes, etc.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Quite. Alas, that is lost on most.

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RiverHollow's avatar

How about instead of comedy villains we get serious men organized and willing to put an end to all this nonsense?

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

It is coming.

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Rikard's avatar

Okay, this one put you (Germany) in the lead, but we're catching up to you any day now, I'm sure!

Recently, an octogenarian was convicted for hate-crime. The actual crime?

He had painted a couple of water-colours of Adolf Hitler, based on stills from some speech or other, and displayed these in public.

Note that Sweden does not have any law prohibiting this.

Again: he broke no law that's on the books, and was still convicted.

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eugyppius's avatar

you ever want me to run a guest post from you on any of these totally insane swedish cases, just send one to my email. you have standing invitation.

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Rikard's avatar

Thank you, will keep that in mind. I can throw in one right away, though it is non-political.

In Kalmar, police raided the home of man a couple of days ago. They had obtained a warrant to search for stole goods, on reasonable suspicion (the man had been caught on camera stealing).

Sounds reasonable, no?

The stolen goods were two ballpoint pens that he had lifted from the police station. Total value: 148:- (about €14).

So someone had to look through the tapes, someone had to write a report and file a case with a prosecutor, and get a squad of police together and go and ransack the man's home.

For two ballpoint pens.

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eugyppius's avatar

fucking insane. he's a native swede of course? they always are, with these petty ridiculous cases. the migrants get to rob the supermarkets blind and somehow there's nothing they can ever do about it, it's just so complicated, there are these pesky things called rights you see.

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Rikard's avatar

As far as I've been able to find out, it's a Swedish man.

You know, I'm more and more reminded of how Hasek depicted Austria-Hungray in 'Brave Soldier Svejk'; obsessed with petty detail and symbolic stuff, such as throwing an innkeeper in prison because he let the flies crap on a portrait of the Emperor, while conscripting any regular criminal as long as they were physically fit.

Perhaps such things are an omen. It certainly is a tell-tale sign of what has happened to our nations from 1989 to present day.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

So $8 for ONE ballpoint pen? Whose nephew has the contract for selling these to the police?

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Rikard's avatar

The only slightly charitable excuse I can imagine is that they dearly wanted to search this guy's house, and finally got an excuse to do so.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

{..For sure the ballpoints were new ??? ... 🤔🤔🤔

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Warmek's avatar

What kind of fucking amazing ballpoint pens were these? I'm more used to the sort that you get 40 for €14...

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Eidein's avatar

If there was no law, then what was he charged with? I'm not doubting you, I absolutely believe someone would be railroaded like this. I'm just wondering what the fake-because was

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Rikard's avatar

The prosecutor argued that since the man had painted Hitler-portraits and showed them in public, he is a nazi.

Our courts are staffed with politicians aiding a judge in reaching a verdict, so any case with even a whiff of politics attached usually only goes one way.

If you appeal, no matter if you win or lose, not even if the higher court finds the original ruling wrong (or even the initial case brought by the prosecution being wilful and frivolous), the state will charge you the trial costs, which will always be higher than any damages or compensation.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: If you appeal, no matter if you win or lose, ... the state will charge you the trial costs, which will always be higher than any damages or compensation.

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Must have misremembered the line about "something rotten in the state of DENMARK."

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C. L. H. Daniels's avatar

That is completely absurd, Kafka-esque even, like something you would expect out of a Communist state where you theoretically have rights but will literally be punished for insisting on them.

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Rikard's avatar

Sweden has been called - by political opposition both of the Left and the Right - "DDR Light" or "DDR v.1.2", since the 1970s, for good reason.

It's very hard to explain. Up until the 1990s it didn't matter that much anyway: we were a homogenous society and all parties save the Communists were also some flavour of nationalist, even the Greens were at the start.

So challenging something (like the ban on making your own alcohol; not selling moonshine, just making it) was done /within/ a common cultural context. Now, that "mutuality" of kind is gone, and thus any challenge is instead reacted to and upon as an outside challenge to the staus quo of power.

Perhaps the different way hard left US Democrats view the Constitution and its amendments vs how it is written and how most (?) Americans think of it, is a good comparison for lost commonality and mutuality.

Here's another one:

Under Swedish law, you can be tried and convicted for slander/libel even if what you have stated is true. You could f.e. cite someone's criminal record in an article about them, and be convicted for libel, despite the record being public and the state's own documentation.

This law is abused by the politicised courts to quiet dissenters, since the agents of the Socialist Democrat party (EXPO and Antifa) often have criminal convictions for assault, drug abuse, rape, arson and such, and it wouldn't look good if one of the state's inofficial street soldiers was revealed for the scum that they are.

DDR, but the Wall is on the inside of people's heads.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: Sweden has been called ... "DDR Light" ... since the 1970s ... It's very hard to explain.

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Post-Lutheran spiritual decay in both cases, much helped along in the case of Sweden by long-term infestation by cult-Marx parasitism.

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Eidein's avatar

I don't mean this as a troll question or anything but, uh, is "being a nazi" a crime? How is that even defined? What counts, legally, as 'being a nazi'?

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Rikard's avatar

Since racial hatred is regarded and defined as core precept of national socialism, and since inciting racial hatred or denigrating a race is covered by the hate-speech law, therefore anyone the prosectuion can make credible is a nazi, is in violation of the hate-speech law.

Note that it is down to whether or not the prosecutor can make the court believe her claims, that such a case swings on, and not tangible proof - in this case.

If I were to write "I wish they'd put machine gun nests on the Öresund bridge to guard the border", that's not hate-speech since no group is named or implied. If I re-phrase it to read "keep migrants out", it might qualify despite "migrant" not being a specific racial group (it would depend on my background and a prosecutor would look at my internet posting history for "proof"). But if I put "to keep moslems out" in there, then it's a crime, according to established prejudice.

In other words, if a prosecutor can make their case credibly in the eyes of the judge and his politician assistants, you're convicted. Actual hard proof is not necessary.

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RiverHollow's avatar

I think the problem here is that they regard being a Nazi as a crime.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

News to me that even Sweden has its AIPAC ...

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Rikard's avatar

You might consider looking up the name "Barbara Lerner Spectre"; an American Jewess stationed in Sweden, have been for a long time and who is on record stating that Europe will be made multicultural no matter what the inhabitants wants or thinks about it. She is the founder and leader of the Jewish lobby group Paideia, which have worked for a long time to make sure European nations open their borders to moslem migrants.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

BINGO !!! 👍👍👍

Just go to YT and enter (Barbara Lerner Spectre) to get a plethora of different videos about this satanic Zionist...

She's not the problem, but the domestic traitors, chosen by the Zionists and then elected by the gullible citizens into the governments ...

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SCA's avatar
2dEdited

The blood of the young people of the White Rose is crying out to you from the ground, Germany. So strange that I can hear it and the entire German government and its apparatchiks cannot.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Sad but true.

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SCA's avatar

Learning nothing from history gets to be a little wearying after the four billionth time.

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Random's avatar

Karl dindu nuffin

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Dave's avatar

But this is SO much easier than chasing, say, rapists. Don’t even have to look away from their screen, except for the occasional 5-minute court appearance.

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james (seenitbefore)'s avatar

Fascism never died in Germany. I worked for 2 years with the German criminal and customs police (Kripo and Zoll) in 73-75; I was a customs Mil Pol Invest (linguist). We used to walk into German homes and businesses regularly without a Judge issued search warrant. Every senior German investigator (zoll) had the authority to issue a search warrant, on the spot. The rationale was that since we were dealing with customs xborder goods, the unlimited search at borders extended throughout Germany. Look at the leaders of Germany today and follow their bloodlines; how many of them come from powerful families embedded in the NAZI past? When you are a nation of political sheep, you get governed by wolves.

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C. L. H. Daniels's avatar

The Germans strike me as a deeply conformist people. That is a shallow reading and may accordingly be wrong or unjustified, but it would also explain a great deal.

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cabystander's avatar

Eugyppius, your writings consistently cause two reactions:

1) A combination of incredulity and horror this happening in Germany. My family is mostly (and proudly German, albeit long ago. Pennsylvania Dutch. I have spent a lot of time in Germany--back in the '70's/80's. I found it an amazing country with amazing people. I felt at home, although my spoken German is close to non-existent.

2) Are those hoof beats I hear? Decoded--our horse operas ("Western" movies) of my youth would have people putting their ear to the ground to detect hoof beats of an oncoming enemy.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

For me, the former not the latter. But well expressed! Is that the pitter patter of little feet? Is that a cloud in the sky, or an impending swarm of orchard annihilating locusts? 😂

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

That would be locusts.

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FlyoverCountry's avatar

Or drones.

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Marc Svetov's avatar

The German censorship laws are supported by the political cartel ... how did this happen? How are these people voted in ... the worst censorship laws in Europe, maybe only the English rival them ...

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Trish's avatar

Complete and total insanity.

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John Visher's avatar

courts around the world are showing their true evil.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: Courts around the world are showing their true evil.

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In the U.S., one Hannah Dugan, a local judge in Wisconsin, helped a previously deported illegal immigrant escape arrest by federal agents by spiriting him outside through non-public areas of the court building.

The thug in question, one Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, was in court on CRIMINAL CHARGES (battery) for hitting two persons 30 times in the course of an altercation about loud music. THE VICTIMS WERE IN COURT and thus witnessed "judge" Hannah Dugan blatantly siding with the accused violent thug. The thug was apprehended not far from the court building.

"Judge" Dugan herself has since been arrested. According to her attorney, "Judge Dugan wholeheartedly regrets ... her [own] arrest."

https://nypost.com/2025/04/26/us-news/judge-busted-for-allegedly-helping-illegal-migrant-evade-ice-voted-most-public-trusted-official/

WARNING: PHYSIOGNOMY IS REAL - VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED

https://nypost.com/2025/04/25/us-news/wisconsin-judge-hannah-dugan-arrested-by-fbi-for-allegedly-helping-illegal-immigrant-evade-ice/

Detailed affidavit: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wied.111629/gov.uscourts.wied.111629.1.0.pdf

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

They are a product of Power, nothing more. Reputation is difficult to create and easily lost as the judiciary will eventually find out.

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PatriotInGibraltar's avatar

Stupidity from one angle is brute force from another. The velvet glove has been removed, and the German regime is cracking heads with an iron fist. Intimidation at its finest, and it won't stop here, sadly.

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