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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

You might consider getting out.

I don't see much good in the EU to stay for at this time.

The retards hold all the cards.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

"The retards hold all the cards"

This wins the interwebz today.

Pithy, concise, funny, and 100% true.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Sadly on both sides of the North Atlantic.

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Joseph Little's avatar

Ok, in a sense this is right (that the retards hold all the cards).

But what they are doing is stupid and enormously destructive. It will end, probably badly in some sense.

I think it has to end soon.

And then, I think, people will throw the idiots out.

This might come on as the end of the CDU party (or only a rump is left). This might be as AfD taking the majority and maybe CDU becomes the opposition party. We shall see.

How can Europeans not see this as essentially suicide?

When will they awaken? Or, maybe, when will they (that majority, I think, who feel things must be different) when will they take effective action??

I think it must be fairly soon.

Why? Well, in one way, I think it may soon be too late. Ex: Germany is too bankrupt.

It’s gonna be harsh in many ways for many people.

Forces?

1. No one believes the climate and woke stuff at all.

2. Too many people discredited by all the lies.

3. Paying for their own security.

4. Bloated social welfare network with too few young people to pay for it.

5. America (Trump) stops the $ flow that pays for their own security profligacy.

6. The costs of limitless immigration (direct costs and how it tears up the social fabric).

7. As I read it, each state is massively badly run (little value delivered per euro spent), and the EU bureaucracy is even worse run.

8. Europe (esp Germany) has to open trade with US, but then will lose competitively. I see closing factories.

Are the current leaders ready to deal with all of that? I think not.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well met, Joseph

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RiverHollow's avatar

Running away is for Americans. Europe is our home, no matter what happens.

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Hat Bailey's avatar

One of the best things about the US is that you can easily vote with your feet as I did to escape from the increasing corruption in California for the much freer state of Texas. Those states that become too oppressive lose population to those which are better run.

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Cynthia M's avatar

Unfortunately California expects the federal government to share the financial burden of their own insane generosity to illegal aliens.

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Tank Hough's avatar

DJT will punish California for its Globalist Marxist ways. There will be no more Federal aid.

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Cynthia M's avatar

I hope you're right.

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Jana Crawford's avatar

Not possible. He considered that during #1 and then saw how big the economy really was. There is a reason Newsom went to China and invited Xi personally. There is a reason Newsom was able to 'clean up' San Fran temporarily for Xi's visit. Two economic powerhouses.

I find it fascinating that folks still think little caesar (DJT) is their anointed 'king'. Especially this week. As a reminder, the Jews thought this about 2000 years ago. Look what happened to them.

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Tank Hough's avatar

Newscum cannot negotiate anything with Xi. San Francisco along with the rest of California's problems lie squarely on Newscum. Voting in California is fraudulent and most sane residents would never for this criminal cretin.

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Tank Hough's avatar

You voted for Tampon Tim and Countess Cackula. Your view of DJT highlights your delusional thinking. None of us who voted for him look at him like a King. Your TDS is sad and pathetic.

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RiverHollow's avatar

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but surely you don't think that's going to work, or has worked out well for Americans these last 100 years. A people becomes nothing but a pack of rats if their home is simply wherever they can run away to.

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GK's avatar

So stay and fight, I guess. But, so far Europe has shown a still developing talent for surrender. You wring your hands, clutch your pearls, while politicians shut down your power plants, invite violent immigrants in, and imprison anyone who dares complain. No one's impressed with Europe these days.

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hoppah's avatar

It won't be long, and Islam will solve all those problems for Europe. It won't be Europe anymore, and your cathedrals will be deconsecrated and turned into mosques or museums, but they won't tolerate Leftist tyranny, because tyrants hate competition. And they have the will Europeans no longer have.

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Barekicks's avatar

Oh stop it with the black-pilled nonsense

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Best of all, we - the public - did not ask for any of this.

Over to Merkel et al.

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Bob's avatar

This RH guy is something else. He seems to forget we saved Him from Nazism. Ironically Trump will not save him from Islamism. Syubborn often is synonymous with stupid.

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pyrrhus's avatar

You fail to understand the huge cultural differences between areas of the US....Europe is not similar

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Ernest Judd's avatar

" the huge cultural differences "

There are people with far too much money

and people with not enough money that is getting stolen from them.

At one time I could count on the various musical genres to illuminate possible cultural influences.

Now... support Uncle Shmuel is the only refrain.

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Rocío Matamoros's avatar

So are you just H¡tler-curious, or are you going to have the operation?

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Ernest Judd's avatar

"If voting in the U$A made a difference it would be made illegal."

I laugh at your gaslighting that there is some sort of Democ(k)racy in the U$A. What has happened transparently the last 25 years or so is not the least bit encouraging as far as people's right's are concerned.

The CoronaPrank was everything that the West's bastardized so-called democ(k)racy has morphed into: a Zio-sympathizing Death Cult.

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Hat Bailey's avatar

It worked for all the early immigrants to America. The thing is you have to do something or you are saying we must simply submit to petty tyrants. In a day when so many are easily censored or even oppressed and mocked by those who should be joining them in resistance, you have to think about a new home where you can breathe free, where there is still people with the courage to support the same values that are important to you.

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hoppah's avatar

You can't run. They'll come find you. As California falls, the locusts will follow you to Texas and then, like Colorado and Oregon and Washington, they'll turn it blue and eat you up, all over again.

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Mitch's avatar

most animal parasites are at least smart enough to not kill their host.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Yes, the States of the US have constitutionally far more power than those in the EU, and Armstrong's AI has long predicted that because of the huge differences between States, the US starts breaking up in 2033...

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Rosemary B's avatar

I agree with you on that point.

It will be a complicated future with all of the muslim take over in various countries and here in the US eventually. I joke it will be a fight between the muslims and the mormons, but I do not think their numbers are very high. I know there is a webpage Xmormon. com, I wonder if they have one for XMuslim? I bet there is

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Wiley's avatar

Yeah, Texas already fucked. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

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Mitch's avatar

the genius of having 50 different laboratories

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TimeSpaces's avatar

No, Americans run TO sane and decent opportunity for themselves and their families. They have the strength, courage and clarity of mind to see it and go for it.

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Rick Olivier's avatar

as I hold my hand up, as proof

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RiverHollow's avatar

A people becomes nothing but a pack of rats if their home is simply wherever they can run away to.

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Tank Hough's avatar

You'll continue to be living like a pack of rats if you don't stand up to the Marxist Globalists.

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Warmek's avatar

So, when do y'all plan to start fighting back, then?

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GK's avatar

Well some people ran away from Great Britain for America some years back. It's not much of a puzzle where the rats are now.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

That's a riddle. Please explain. Oh, and $100 trillion (about €1) if it's got anything to do with the 250th anniversary in 2026.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

No one in America is running away except some stupid lefties, young and unattached adventurers, and very wealthy Hollywood types.

Check the exit taxes for one thing! 🤣

And no, the US egg shortage has been over for at least a month, despite what is bring reported in state media on the euro continent.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

the eggs here in GA are still 7 bucks a carton for the better ones. May be no shortage but price is not yet down.

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

I bought 4 dozen from a local Amish family for $3.50 a dozen.

Large were $4 and duck eggs were$5.00.

They had around 15 dozen available.

Of course, they don't pay much attention to our government, so the only chickens they destroyed were the ones for their dozen kids' supper.

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Mitch's avatar

how do those duck eggs taste?

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

Same as chicken eggs, only bigger, probably 1/3 larger than jumbos.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

soon our farmers market will reopen. We do not have Amish nearby but we do have quite a few Mennonites. We also have a farmer with free range chickens even though he has always been pricy. Better eggs though ! Thanks for the tip, I am going to check our if our Mennonites raise chickens (so far they only sold berries and pies).

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Tank Hough's avatar

That's because you elected a criminal for Governor.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

In Vancouver Canada a dozen eggs is about 13 $ .Canadian chicken charge more . In case of emergency one can order lab eggs from Bill Gates ,.He sells his eggs in thirteen eggs cartons for good luck .

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

even if gates of hell gave them free, or paid me to accept them, I wouldn't want them. I buy from a locally owned store that gets eggs from close by farmers. Expensive, but at least not the rubbery tasting wm-kind

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Ernest Judd's avatar

You are lying.

Where TF are you buying $13/doz eggs.

Organic eggs are $8-9/doz.

GMO eggs are less.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Ernest ,I only buy one egg when shopping ,because of the high price ,and I never lie ,because it is a sin .

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Chixbythesea's avatar

🤢

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Strange. I’m on the left coast. They been down for a month. I wonder if your retailers are price gouging, “just because they can.” Are Costco egg prices still inflated?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

there is no Costco within at least 60 miles. we only have Walmart and Kroger (which I boycott for bad service) and a few smaller stores.

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CMCM's avatar

I just bought a pack of 2 dozen for $8.49. California, too.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Nice there’s more Cali folk here!

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Count yourself lucky ,because your husband still offers his eggs for free .

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Chixbythesea's avatar

You’ll have to man ‘splain me on that.

My chickens give me eggs but my rooster died. He couldn’t do that particular job anyway.

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Becky N's avatar

I paid 10 bucks for 24 eggs at Costco in a red county about 3 weeks ago.n

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Elle's avatar

They are still far more expensive though.

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Juraj Vascik's avatar

And my German ancestors ran TO the USA for a better life.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

You can't run from Germany to the USA .,you have to swim .Will people ever learn??

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

No.

It's because the ones that run seem to disappear. Ha!

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

I hope I did not cause masses of Germans to start swimming to America instead of running . Many Germans can't swim ,that is why they must run on water .

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Running away isn't just for Americans.

The Jewish people did it to escape Egypt, and then later Germany.

More than a few liberals went to Canada after the previous election here in the US.

Many illegal immigrants run from various countries all the time.

But if running away is what we Americans do, then most of the world adopted that philosophy in 2020 to escape a "novel dangerous virus."

There are plenty of citizens here who were originally from Germany, and you're right, they are American citizens now.

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RiverHollow's avatar

Sorry, point taken. It's for backstabbing Anglos and Jews then, along with the skittish, cowardly sorts with which well-rooted people hold some amount of pity, but never wish to become.

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

As usual it's "the damned Joos", eh?

I love America, but if the Democrat communists had won the last election, I'd have been looking. We really dodged a bullet. You in the EU don't even know you're in the cross hairs.

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JC's avatar

I, too, love America, but where would you run to: Canada, EU, NZ, Australia, Venezuela, etc.?

In point of fact, we are a nation of laws, orders, regulations; we have the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution. There is no better place. Believe it or not, the last 9 years have been a 'draining of the swamp,' which is continuing even now. Additionally, the demonrats would never have 'won' without trying massive cheating again, and that would not have been allowed, was not allowed. If you read the laws, orders, declarations, etc. you will find that we have been under modified martial law in a continuity of government situation. Hard to believe, I know, unless you have taken the time to actually read the Constitution and the laws and orders I mentioned above. There are a lot of treasonous politicians still at liberty who violated various sections of US Code 3, 18, 52 on Jan 6, 2021, which was the actual insurrection, and their time is still to come. There is more going on behind the scenes than you might imagine. Be strong; all will be well.

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RiverHollow's avatar

What? You brought them up. Go be half sentient elsewhere.

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

Who brought them up?????

RiverHollow

23m

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Sorry, point taken. It's for backstabbing Anglos and Jews then, along with the skittish, cowardly sorts with which well-rooted people hold some amount of pity, but never wish to become.

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Kate's avatar

A large portion of the American population is comprised of descendants of European immigrants.

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RiverHollow's avatar

Yes, America is rightly a free European colony. Unless it can understand itself as such it will be largely brazilified. I say this as an American with a love for what America has been and by all rights should be.

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Ken Kunda's avatar

You don't sound like an American and you also have little understanding of what is going on in Europe right now.

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

I'd have to agree.

This one's about as American as Klaus Schwab.

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RiverHollow's avatar

Not very common to stand your ground and defend your territory these days in America, is it? Unorthodox as it may be, I don't find that approach sustainable.

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Ken Kunda's avatar

I don't know where you live but where I come from we are celebrating freedom of speech after the election of Trump. I don't know your political persuasion but since Trump was elected I feel like every morning is Christmas morning.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Only 740 million people left in the world of European descent.

We are unique in ways most can't imagine.

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Jana Crawford's avatar

As an American, I agree. Somewhat. We are risk takers. Something deep within us 'runs away' but with the belief we can start anew. Most of us arrived because our ancestors 'ran away', the American West (where I live) was inhabited by those who were still more determined to rid themselves of the Eastern seaboard. I myself ran away from extraordinarily abusive parents, (me again! As a 16yo female, I hitchhiked from NYC to LA, circa 1976). Eventually, one must face these 'demons' and 'fight smart' instead of reflexively. Either way, risk taking is part of who we are.

Many decades later, I think of 'where shall I go' and the more I ponder this, the more I find that I have the strength within to face whatever mountain dares to block me. Not because I am brave but because the Uncreated One gives me this powerful strength from within to be grateful for what I have been so generously given.

In other words, I have found the peace I was seeking. 🕊️

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

this former European left the ship just before it sank completely

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Hohenstaufen's avatar

Yes! Resist. We will live here until we can’t eat. Until our families freeze in the winter while we toil all day to produce bug paste, squeezed out of petroleum free, recyclable tubes for our benevolent overlords. Because this is our h…. Wait what? Oh right. I’m not a moron and will be exiting stage left at the slightest sign of austerity. Why would you suffer for these people? Germans have elected their own demise. “Denn sie wollen zugrunde gehen!” I won’t be around for the zugrunde part.

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John Lester's avatar

So you are saying that centuries of being enslaved to kings and tyrants has turned the Europeans into obedient people that do what their betters tell them to do. Moving to a better place is not exactly running away. People came here to get away from that world.

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dk's avatar

That’s what so many Jews believed …

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Alzaebo's avatar

Nah. They ran to America, Russia, and South America. Nobody did the simple verification of checking the emmigration numbers.

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Michal Platek's avatar

That’s so sad

You’ve lost your mind AND your nationality, just like they’ve planned for you. Awful

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hoppah's avatar

And go where?

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

I'd have thought Argentina to be a natural. Especially so now.

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Barekicks's avatar

Not that easy to get a visa

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

Good question.

At this time, El Salvador looks good, but regimes in S America can change faster than a liberal progressive tranny.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

A real German can't leave Germany ,he would miss his sauerkraut too much .

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Elle's avatar

Best thing to take it along. It’s good for your general health and immune system.

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Elle's avatar

Take the fermenting practice along, to all the smart relies about seeds and cabbage.

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

We grow cabbage here in the US too.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

But you don't grow sauerkraut . It only grows in Germany .

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

Is there any way you could send me some of them sauerkraut seeds?

I'd like to plant them next to my money tree.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

I don't think I will get to Germany for spring planting , I live in Vancouver ,Canada

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Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

I hear they have some big fentanyl plants over there. Do you have seeds for those?

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Elle's avatar

They only make it in Germany. Where has it been frequently served elsewhere? Curious

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TheDukeofAlba's avatar

I feel whipsawed in the extreme. I come around to the view that the administration is going too far with its handling of the allies, then the allies do things like this. How can we in good conscience be allied to such a state that torments its own citizens like this - look at Merz’ shit eating grin as he delivers the bad news? These politicians are enemies of the human race.

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Dee's avatar

Gavin Newsom gets so happy when he is talking about the fires that burned down lots of homes in California. He practically is dancing. It is a shame the water reserves to put out the fires was left to go dry. Darn! I guess now there isn't a choice. 15 minute cities can't come fast enough for this part of California for Newsom's burn back better plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4E5Xot8Xx4

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Jana Crawford's avatar

I saw a scary tidbit float across my 'news' feed the other day, Newsom wants to be president. Guess who wants to replace him? Kamala! Can you imagine anything worse? Must we move to ????

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CMCM's avatar

Well, the Democrat idiots in California will probably elect the moron. They're dumber and more clueless than she is. And Newsom has the IQ of a rock but there are probably enough illiterate Democrats to elect him too. That will be a sad day.

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Bizarro Man's avatar

I don't know about Gavin Loathsom being stupid. He's a clever politician. Evil, yes.

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Calvin_The_Hee's avatar

As it turns out the administration has not yet gone to far with the Europeans.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Relax ,once all the girls have gone into politics and hubby is cooking his chow at home alone ,things will change to the better .

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Alzaebo's avatar

They'll do a better job of running things! LOL

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Do you know things don't run well without lubrication ?

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David Rinker's avatar

The face of evil.

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Gilgamech's avatar

I just want to stop and sanity-check myself. Merz is leading what used to be (before AfD) the *right* wing of German politics, yes? I’m not hallucinating all this?

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eugyppius's avatar

you are not hallucinating this, this is all apparently real.

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Patricia Ernst's avatar

I had a young woman tell me “right wing is bad, everyone knows this!” I have been right wing my entire adult life Now I am a bad person for being right of center. It’s like the Democrats in the USA trying to tell us that the Republicans are the party of the KKK when it was actually their party

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Elle's avatar

There was a shift, The progressive party was renamed, you are not aware of this? The progressive abolitionist party was in the north, then renamed Republican after Jefferson’s original Republicans party. Democrats were the south. That flipped in the 50’s - 60’s with civil rights. Dems for civil rights, Republicans against.

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Warmek's avatar

Good luck peddling that bullshit to people who aren't gullible idiots.

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Patricia Ernst's avatar

I don’t know where you were educated but I can tell you that what you wrote is a huge pile of hogwash. The Democrats were always the party of separation. Nothing changed other than the propaganda they spew. They fought tooth and nail against civil rights.

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Elle's avatar

Patricia, You must be referring to the Dixiecrats. You are so lacking in the history.

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Elle's avatar

Mississippi? Remember the killing of the northern boys the went to help with registering blacks to vote? But surely you are correct, as always.

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Elle's avatar

You mean Pres. Linden B Johnson? He wasn’t a democrat that passed the civil rights bill? 🤔

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Patricia Ernst's avatar

After reading your replies I can only concede that you are a complete and total failure at history of any kind. LBJ was a Democrat and yes he passed the civil rights act after immense pressure. You epitomize the Liberal mindset.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

One day we may find ourselves hallucinating and Russia will have to ride in and save Germany from the Nazi's...again.

Medvedev just called out Merz for what he really is. A Nazi. And so is von der Leyen. And all of the Nazi legacy babies running Germany and the EU (and Canada) today:

https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1911739999722012767

Alexander Solzhenitsyn alluded to this day over thirty years ago:

https://www.forbes.com/2008/08/05/solzhenitsyn-forbes-interview-oped-cx_pm_0804russia.html

"AS: If one looks far into the future, one can foresee in the 21st century such a time when the U.S. together with Europe will be in dire need of Russia as an ally.

Forbes: That is a puzzling assertion.

AS: It is puzzling only for those who don't look into the future and do not see what kind of new powers are arising in the world."

Truth is the truth. No matter how butt-hurt anyone in Germany, the EU and Canada gets when they heat it. Foes will often tell difficult truths that friends won't. The US is even fighting off it's own Nazi baby legacy, like Hitler's Banker Prescott Bush and his legacy in US politics, like the Cheney/Romney NeverTrumper wing of the GOP. Difficult truth.

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Elle's avatar

Frankly they’re two sides of the same coin, both controlled by the same people in EU super elite, small club with the same bankers.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

There is much truth in that.

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Ken Kunda's avatar

How can Merz be so stupid? All he has to do is form a government with the AfD and he could then govern as a conservative. Are Germans that afraid to take some "heat" from the noisy, useful idiots? Is there no Trump like person in Germany willing to step forward?

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

He isn't stupid, he is merely manipulated. Because conservatism is nothing, he has never been psychologically equipped with the mental tools to push back on leftism, and in that environment it's inevitable that the left will always win - because they DO have the mental tools to push on the right.

Let me ask you, does the average center-right conservative on the street feel comfortable saying any of these things in public?

1. Leftism is immoral and leftists should be ashamed of their views.

2. Leftist violence is a serious issue that the state needs to address.

3. Academia is systematically unreliable at best, malicious at worst, and you should therefore not trust scientists or experts (on anything, at all).

4. Conservatism is the most correct ideology.

5. The welfare state is immoral and doomed.

The answer is no, because although all these positions are easily made the average conservative has never heard any arguments for any of them, and nor will the left-controlled media ever allow him to hear such arguments. As a consequence, the average conservative is in reality mind-controlled by the left and will do whatever the left wants when programmed using the right words.

The only solution for this is to not only nicely package up answers and rebuttals to all left wing positions in pre-digested soundbites for people to learn and repeat, but to find ways to get such material to people despite left wing censorship. And it's important to make everything have a moral spin. Leftists are fanatics because it's a religion to them which tells them they're moral and good people. Conservatives are weak in their face, because conservatives aren't sure if they're good or moral people, or what morality even is anymore.

It's partly for that reason I don't personally think conservatism is something that exists or makes sense to try and save - the only position that can oppose the left consistently is libertarianism.

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CMCM's avatar

Leftists don't seem to know they're leftists. They think they are right smack in the middle and represent the common viewpoint. Hard to believe, but true.

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Barekicks's avatar

Libertarianism is just the right's version of utopian thinking, sorry

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EppingBlogger's avatar

It is common for people to assume that those who were content to be described as centre right or conservative and then do leftistthings have done so through error. The evidence in the UK is that such actions are impossible to explain as error.

It must be these people wanted to do what they did or at least had no strong feelings against it and allowed bureaucrats to carry on. In short, they were not and are not conservative, free market, libertarian or centre right (chose your handle). They are leftists who chose a different gang.

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Barekicks's avatar

Most big-C conservatives in the UK are not in fact small-C conservative. This is the issue

The entire political establishment in the UK is liberal and has been for a long time. You have the left liberals (Blair, Brown, now Starmer) and you have the centre liberals (Cameron, May, Johnson, Sunak). All have governed from the same principles, just to varying degrees and with slightly different priorities. And most crucially,nall have allowed the progressive left (which accounts for a good chunk of the civil service and institutional bureaucracy) to influence social policy, education and the judiciary.

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Elle's avatar

That’s due to neither left or right because they seen to both be under the same control.

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Latz51's avatar

There are more RINOS that ultimately go to the other side than vice versa. For instance the former Republican leader in the Senate has (in his semi Biden like vegetative state) gone full anti Trump…

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

If he were to ally w the AfD that would be the end of his entire career, he would become a social outcast (along with his family) and their cushy lives and futures would go up in smoke.

This is a class war bw the managerial elite and the unwashed rubes (the Controllers v the Controlled) and apostates or defectors will be punished harshly to encourage the others.

And it's probably for the best that Germans are allergic to blustery demagogues, they fell for one of those last century and it didn't turn out too well.

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Rikard's avatar

If Merz allied with the AfD he would have an accident.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Sounds like Metz needs a dose of DEI “INCLUSION”, when it comes to AfD.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I'd also like a sanity check on how do you make the case that something that becomes more expensive over time has some inherent value.

That can never be the case with commodities. Quite literally the opposite.

Orwellian. And nobody has made that argument from what I can tell.

Seems like the base question.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Is this CO2 we’re talking about? Sorry I am slightly lost.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Energy prices

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Gilgamech's avatar

Ok I was close 😁

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I think Merz realizes that the German people have been sufficiently terrorized into believing that if they pay out enough of their hard-earned money, they can "solve" "climate change," which is of course insane.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

'Specially, considering there is no demonstrable climate change.

Crazy thing is that CO2 is .004 of atmosphere....002, and plant life ceases to exist.

So do we.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Even leftists are unsure about what carbon is. We all know there’s a war against carbon…. Just ask a farmer.

The city leftists think you’re tawk’n carbon monoxide. No joke.

BTW, you’re 💯 correct about plants needing carbon. In greenhouses where it’s too cold open windows they literally pump in carbon dioxide approx 12 hours of every day. The rest of the time plants need O2.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

When leftists talk about carbon, they think it's only black, like coal, and we have all been told that coal is bad, bad, or worse.

Arguably the most efficient material to burn in small quantities.

I had a french "Mon Godin" woodstove that could handle coal...

Small stove could heat a 1,000 sq. ft. house, no problem .

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Rikard's avatar

Yep, been asking people that for years now whenever they start with "Muh klimate"-spiel.

"How much of the atmosphere is CO2?"

Most people, including high school teachers of chemistry and physics, answer in the double-digit percentages.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Nitrogen- the 2nd climate boogieman comprises approx 78% of the air we breathe.

We pee it out.

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Rikard's avatar

Shhhh! Don't teel them that! They'll legislate clamps or catheters for everyone next!

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kertch's avatar

Our problem is a shortage of nitrogen in a green plant-usable nitrate form, not an overabundance. CO2, now nitrogen - seems these climate crazies don't like plants.

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Rikard's avatar

At the risk of being disgusting, that's Easy(tm):

Separate the urine in the sewage treatment plants. Let it freeze and thaw for X no. of weeks (tarp-covered outdoors basins f.e.) during Winter. This makes the impurities and such collect on the bottom of the basin/tank.

Dilute to 1/10 with water, and use to water the soil before planting.

Okay, so exaclt how to scale that up to industrial scale I can't say and I can't give you the chymical process either - but that's how it's been done for donkey's years, and it works.

That's how we do it during Winter, in my little house: go outside to pee, and do it in the pee-bucket(s). Combined with chicken crap from the coops and ashes from the stove, it works like a charm in the garden - it's like 'roids for the plants!

Surely, there must be ways to do this on an industrial scale - there used to be, at least, based on historical records dating back to the Middle Ages even.

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Steven Work's avatar

I looked into this a while ago because it seemed strange that our cities' septic was not used, dried and powered and sold or given to farmers to spread with their cow poo.

The septic is filled with everything from heavy metals, birth-control and anti-psychotic drugs and other and all other things. Can't be used. No one would want it on their land and especially on their food.

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kertch's avatar

There probably is a way to do it on an industrial scale, but right now the Haber-Bosch process is probably cheaper and faster - though more energy intensive. The old process has multiple steps that require the right conditions because it's a metabolic process. Urea > ammonia > nitrite > nitrate. Each step being completed by a different bacteria that gain energy from the process. It's the final nitrates that plants crave. When you pee on the ground, it's bacteria in the soil that do all this. Chicken manure provides phosphates and wood ash (or bone meal) provides potassium.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Some of them don’t because they’re a death cult. Others simply don’t know. No one ever informs them. There’s a thing called the “carbon cycle.” I tell people to look it up but they’re fearful of being ostracized from their peer group. Supposedly nitrogen fixers like legumes grab nitrogen from the environment and make it available to other plants but it’s never been specifically proven or disproven.

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Warmek's avatar

> Others simply don’t know. No one ever informs them.

It's worse than that. Even the ones who aren't full in on the death cult aspect will actively resist being educated on the topic.

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kertch's avatar

It's not the legumes themselves, but symbiotic bacterial that live within the root nodules. The plants get fixed nitrogen and the bacteria get sugars. Some scientists claim lightning helps fix nitrogen by forming NO or NO2. Of course, we all know that animals are very good at fixing nitrogen in the form of urea.

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Alzaebo's avatar

One farmer explained the full chemistry cycle of cow manure, demonstrating that it is actually "carbon-positive", that is, reduces CO2 in the atmosphere.

What's worse, CO2 was never the problem; carbon monoxide, CO, is the deadly stuff from tailpipes.

Far, far worse still, is the depth of their lies; cargo carriers run on "bunker diesel", that is, used motor oil.

15 - fifteen! - supercargo carriers put out as much atmospheric pollution as all the automobiles on the earth combined.

There are 55,000 cargo carriers in operation on any given day.

The Greens seem to think that shipping foodstuffs and products all over the planet is economically sound;

but then, "Green" also means a lithium pit mine the size of Ohio and mountains of hypertoxic tech junk...and plastic bags "to save the trees", remember?

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Dee's avatar

And cows... and people.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Interesting distractor:

What is the THIRD most common element in the atmosphere by molecular count (ignoring water vapor), accounting for about 0.9%?

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Rikard's avatar

It's a noble gas, isn't it? Neon, Argon, Xenon, one of those?

(I could search it of course, but the first memory that pings is "noble gas".)

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Argon.

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Elle's avatar

It’s all fake to bring in the NWO. Weather manipulation goes to far more that could seeding for rain, otherwise it wouldn’t be so secretive and protected for 60+ years.

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Vaxless's avatar

Climate change is more aptly called weather.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Or "Mother Nature."

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Dee's avatar

Americans have been fighting a "War Against Terror". The problem is we just don't really have a set terrorist enemy so the terror continues on and on and on. So of course they need more money to fight this booey man that we can't see. I believe Bush jr started the War on Terror.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

...the war is meant to be continuous...

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The War on Terror, the War on Climate Change, the War on Bigotry, the War on Whatever, always do the opposite of what they say they will. Of course, those of us who are sane understand that you can't wage a war on an idea.

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Elle's avatar

The wars are to gain the world, and they create terror.

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baker charlie's avatar

A friend of mine is an engineer and sat down to figure out mathematically how dire the 'Carbon crisis' was. Turns out that there really isn't one.

Simple Proof that CO2 has little Effect on the Earth's Temperature:

https://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?f=Simple-Proof-that-CO2-has-Climate-Change_Climate-Change_Climate-Change-Deniers-230426-912.html

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Correct. I think we are at peak Net Zero - carbon tax credit trading is made up, the 'solution' to zero emissions is zero activity, and yet, and yet......

All of the beneficiaries of Net Zero consume cash like a coke head.

It is quite simply unaffordable, most of the spend to date is a waste (for example, CCP glass farms pegged at 40 years life knowing full well the panels don't last more than 20 years) and the effect so far is. Nothing. Nothing at all.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

But think of the trillions $ already spent on Global warming/cooling /climate change.

$1,000,000,000,000.

That's just 1 trillion...

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Dee's avatar

But was it really. Maybe they said we are spending money on that but.. the money really got spent in other ways.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Kinda what I was intimating

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

I have solved my own personal climate long ago ,and everyone should do the same . Sometime I like it hot ,sometimes I like it cold it depends on the season and my mood ,or how many coats I wear or not .

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I have my climate set at 74 degrees at present, and shall wear a light sweater.

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Gilgamech's avatar

“You will own nothing, you will freeze slowly in the dark, but you will be happy.”

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Happy™.

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Stuffysays's avatar

Every time I think the UK government must be the dumbest one around, up you pop to show me that Germany is giving us a fair run for our money!

I still don't understand how the general population of Europe is continuing to act like nothing odd is happening. I know our education systems have fallen into an abyss of Woke stupidity but even so, do people really believe all this nonsense? Most of the (admittedly older) people I talk to now think electric cars are dumb and getting rid of gas boilers is dumb and 15-minute cities are dumb and destroying power stations and replacing them with windmills and unicorn poo is dumb. And yet...nobody does anything. There are no riots on the streets, no mass civil disobedience, no People's Champions appearing. Bread and circuses eh?

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

The idea of riots on the street or civil disobedience replacing bad governments with good is an a-historical fantasy. It never happens. The closest you find is something like the end of the USSR, but those "uprisings" happened because the government was so demoralized it let them happen deliberately. Or possibly the American Revolution, but that was unique in so many ways.

Otherwise, governments of all stripes are good at holding onto power regardless of how bad things get. And they can get far worse than they are now in Germany - far worse. Look at North Korea.

The only reason street protests exist in the modern world is because the public sector uses them to manipulate conservative governments into being more left wing. Protests against left wing policies are ignored or crushed, as anyone who tried to protest against COVID travesties will tell you.

The only way to fix anything is, for better or worse, via the ballot box. That does have some track record of success. Which is why the left is always freaking out and trying to ban its political opposition. They don't fear farmers politely honking on the street, they don't fear right wing street armies (because there aren't any), they fear votes.

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Ming the Merciless's avatar

Good luck fixing the problems of Germany by “voting”. I mean… they just had an election, how did that work out? 😂

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David Rinker's avatar

The West has rejected its Christian identity, therefore is rudderless, having chosen scientism, materialism, existentialism, and hedonism as replacements. Drifting toward the rocks.

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Vivian Evans's avatar

Doesn't making everything, especially transport (which also transports goods for consumers, like fresh veggies and stuff), "more expensive" means heating up inflation?

And doesn't increased inflation make banks rise interest rates?

And don't raised interest rates mean more tax money will have to be paid to serve state debts which have also increased?

'Shitty' ain't the word for that government - I'd go with 'insane'.

Meanwhile in Argentina, Javier Milei haș managed to balance his budget and lower monthly inflation from nearly 30% to 2.7% ... Time to learn Spanish, perhaps?

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SCA's avatar
Apr 14Edited

"We have agreed to fuck ourselves over as a nation because we didn't get fucked over enough by everyone else. It's true--the German cultural ethos is BDSM with a vengeance and I am its foremost evangelist." - Merz

God help you guys, truly. And--my fellow Americans here--if the party that pretends it's glad that Trump is at its head doesn't get its shit together fast, the Democrats will bring this to us beginning in 2026.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Agree. Our reprieve could be very temporary.

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SCA's avatar

Every additional chapter in my current email conversation with my brother is a foreshadowing of what will happen if Republicans continue their grand old tradition of being morons and corruption whores.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I've been viewing Trump as functionally a third party. The Republicans are trailing along like a ribbon of toilet paper stuck to his shoe.

The sooner we can jettison both parties, because of their entrenched corruption, the better.

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SCA's avatar

Exactly. This is why cosplaying is a bad thing. Trump didn't have the courage, the first go-around, to campaign as a genuine new thing. He had a force of personality that Perot and Ron Paul and all them others did not, and he let the GOP fuck him over but good. And his own ego too--he knew an idiot like Pence had no ability to overshadow him. But he wasn't smart enough, at that time, to understand that Pence would undermine him every possible way he could.

So, again--those four years making plans in the wilderness were good for Trump, but the cost paid by all of us for four years of Biden--I mean George W. Bush's fifth Administration--was unspeakable.

If we let it be for nothing now...

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NAB's avatar

I don't think Trump 1.0 had the first clue about how fetid and deep the D.C. swamp/system was/is. He clearly knows much more now and has been doing an admirable job in trying to drain/dismantle it, but he is only one man and, boy, does most of the GOPe hate him for it.

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SRwilson's avatar

Just slightly better than stuck to his ass I guess.

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Paul Ashley's avatar

"I put the chances that they see 2029 at less than 50%."

What are you odds on whether you'll even see a German nation in 2029?

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Christy H Carter's avatar

Make plans to move to America. It looks like we have defeated the Leftist zombies for now. God answered our prayers when He gave us Trump. I feel bad for Europe. Believe me, our victory was the result of prayers. Since we won it is easy to see all the big and little things God is and has been doing to bring us back from cliff’s edge and clean out the government swamp. And we thank Him everyday for saving us.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Complacency is dangerous.

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Warmek's avatar

I'm not complacent, I'm more energized than I have been in decades.

I truly thought it was hopeless. Now it looks like it might not be. That might just get me through the next thirty years, even if we lose momentum. :D

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

I hope you're right but I really wouldn't count your chickens before they've hatched on that one. Europe may be run by idiots, but Trump just managed to trash the one thing voters care about the most, and you have a violent street army destroying cars on a daily basis with the full approval of half of your political system. Only a single Democrat has condemned the violence, which is a very bad sign for the future.

Hopefully the Democrats continue to wreck their own popularity, but fundamentally American voters vote for being wealthier and always do. Trump's obsession with tariffs might not only be the undoing of him, but the Republicans as a whole.

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Barekicks's avatar

I agree. Things look fractious as hell in America. It has the advantage of being large and so there's a real spectrum of places, some doing much better than others.

But no govt can offer a panacea. The rot runs deep.

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Norman Pagett's avatar

Trump sees the USA as his personal cash cow.---He is already ruling by fear. He has emasculated the judiciary, and decapitated the military. How long before you see soldiers on the streets to ''restore order''----(from the disorder he creates of course)

He is clearly the ultimate atheist, and cares nothing for anyone but himself. Religion in his context is utterly laughable.----or would be, if the prospect of his dictatorship was not so terrifying.

trust me---he is not ''the chosen one''----if i believed in such nonsense, he fits the description of the antichrist perfectly.

a convicted con artist, and sexual predator, by his own words.

Do you not recognise the playbook of the dictator.?

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Charlotte's avatar

Hahahaha. I’m guessing you live outside of the US and subsist on a daily diet of main stream media. Might be time to change your diet.

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Nicholas's avatar

"How long before you see soldiers on the streets to ''restore order''" - such as seen in DC in January 2020 you mean?

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ThePossum's avatar

Oh for God's sake. Do you keep smelling salts in your pocket, do you have fainting couches available at all times? Oh wait, you wear your big baby diapers and live in a crib!

"...the prospect of his dictatorship was not so terrifying."

Lol.

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NAB's avatar

This has to be either sarcasm or parody, right??

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Norman Pagett's avatar

forgive me

i was unaware that the don was a devout christian, had no convictions for fraud, and invariably treated the opposite sex with utmost courtesy and civility.

it is now obvious that a malevolent individual is impersonating him..

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Robert Bernhardt's avatar

Yeah, it's interesting that they don't even bother anymore to even try to pretend how great everything is. That's differentiating them from Merkel who still acted as if she's living in the 'best-Germany-of-all-time'. Now they don't even try to make a convincing sales pitch why they're the best possible government. That seems like a new development - the people who always focused so much on 'controlling the narrative' apparently completely gave up on doing that

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Rikard's avatar

They rebranded to "Look you guys, those populists in insert-your-nation's-political-opposition-here, they can't face the harsh truths that we can! That's why we're honest and open about tax hikes, higher prices, worsened services and more sacrifices having to be made! The populists blow smoke in your eyes and say that they can fix things for the better! Hah! Such an obvious lie!"

And believe me, this works like a charm.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Yesterday I was chastised, at Church of all places, that NATO was responsible for peace in Europe and anyone who says otherwise is for war. The person said this while voicing his support for the Ukraine war stating the authoritarian is snatching people off the street. I literally was confused which authoritarian he meant. I do feel bad for Ukraine. Wise leaders should have steered them to a Switzerland model but the US neo-cons seemed to have other plans. Meanwhile we have Bernie sounding like a globalist from the Bush era. I need a scorecard to keep up.

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Gilgamech's avatar

It’s bewildering. Next we will have Bernie as NATO secretary-general.

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Elizabeth's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's true. A good friend was huge Bernie supporter. When the mandates came out I asked where was his dissent? I asked why he and AOC weren't encouraging the legions of young people to resist. She kept saying 'he has a plan. I know he is against all of it - just wait.' Well, the clock is clicking to five years. Instead of waiting like a jilted bride at the Church, I long ago ran off with the cute dissident groomsman.

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Rick Olivier's avatar

neck-aches from head-spinning round and round ;-)

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refusenick's avatar

Believing that 80 million Germans freezing themselves to death will somehow have a bigger effect on the level of man-made CO2 (not that it matters) than a dozen new Chinese coal plants opening each day appears to signify a rather weird combination of masochism and conceit, no?

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Tardigrade's avatar

What amazes me is how these people believe that volcanoes don't exist. One volcano can handily undo a fistful of Germanys.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Remember Hunga Tonga erupting in 2022, and its effects totally Ignored by the “has been” press?

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Tardigrade's avatar

Yes, and that wasn't even CO2, it was water vapor, which is apparently even more of a greenhouse gas.

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Rikard's avatar

You know, I mentioned that to colleague once. Think it was when one of the unpronouncable Icelandic volcanoes had a hiccup and air travel was suspended.

She responded with "But that's different, it's natural".

To this day, I haven't been able to think of a comeback to that, especially considering she taught maths and chemistry.

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Tardigrade's avatar

😵‍💫

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Warmek's avatar

> To this day, I haven't been able to think of a comeback to that, especially considering she taught maths and chemistry.

Brass knuckles?

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Warmek's avatar

So, for far more than schadenfreudistic reasons, I wish a particular friend of mine were still alive, but I recall an angry argument we had regarding the topic of Europeans "talking about their feelings regarding starving to death in the dark and freezing cold". Wherein he lambasted me about how "advanced" Europe was. Ah, Len. If only you'd stuck around to see this.

Of course, if he had, he'd probably be depressed enough to commit suicide again, but...

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Ronan Barry's avatar

This will be the last centrist German government for a generation

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Viv's avatar

Have a little sympathy with your Handwerker. It's normal for these people to smell a bit. Pluming in particular can make you pretty smelly.

He's also probably faced with the challenge that the new smart water meters have to sit in a gap that is 7mm wider than the older ones, per DIN782975252-378 §B DresWassKlimSatz § 12 Abs. 9. i b. So he has to cut the existing channel back to fit. Thank the stars it is a wider not smaller gap. And that none of this is a work-creation directive for which money was passed under the table by water meter manufacturers or plumbers' guilds.

At least you won't have to have your new smart water meter changed every 5 years because a law says so, lolololll. Or your electricity, or heating, or gas meter. loll. All of which happen at four different inconveniently timed times, and not at all conveniently all on one day.

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eugyppius's avatar

epic comment

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Gort's avatar

What is the likelyhood this government doesn’t make it to the end of their term and is forced to call new elections early?

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eugyppius's avatar

ca. 60%, conservatively speaking, I would say. what killed the traffic light, was budget issues caused by the 2023 Karlsruhe ruling. these guys have serious budget issues in advance of any court ruling. they're already trading barbs in the press, the Jusos (youth wing of SPD) are denouncing the coalition agreement already, CDU/CSU base hates it, this thing is cursed.

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C. L. H. Daniels's avatar

What if the centrists threw a party… And nobody came?

I feel like the youth are going to pull hard for AfD and Die Linke the next time there’s an election. I understand the CDU youth organization also had harsh words for Merz over the coalition agreement… Frankly I think any young person in German has to be insane not to vote for radical parties at this point, seeing as the purportedly “moderate” Center is busy destroying their futures.

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NAB's avatar

Agreed. Seems like the resentment building in the younger generations will only be contained for so long.

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