In a sane society the collective realization that we have had a clearly senile person in charge of our nuclear launch codes for four years would trigger a major inquiry into how this happened, who enabled it, and why nothing was done about it sooner. And preferably, some public executions as a warning to not let it happen again.
The only thing that matters in this election is whether the Democrats can, prior to election night, guess (using polling and analytics) the delta between "expected" poll results vs how many votes they need to find in 7-10 precincts, in 5-7 states, in order to win.
If they determine they can't close the gap, without being obvious, they'll deploy political violence.
The question is....will Americans again obediently accept that the election was "not" rigged this time? It's laughable to think that Trump will get an enormous number of votes nationally, yet will the majority believe that Biden eked by him with a relatively small number of votes to miraculously win again? It's just not credible. The idea that this dementia addled man could get elected is beyond belief. A great many of those who would vote Democrat even if the candidate "were a lectern" as Trump just said, may not vote for Biden. They may vote for an alternate 3rd party candidates, or they may not vote at all. It will all be interesting to watch.
Barr previously served under the Bush administration as Assistant Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, and Attorney General.
“I started off in Washington at the Central Intelligence Agency and went to law school at night while I was working at CIA,” William Barr said during an oral history event in 2001.
As a former AG, Barr got to work helping aid the cover-up of INSLAW, just as he did for the CIA protecting the agency from Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) and BNL investigations, the Church Committee as a part of the CIA’s Office of Legislative Council (OLC) from 1973 to 1977, and ongoing scandals today walking through a revolving door.
Barr appointed a former Justice Department crony Nicholas Bua to conduct an “investigation” of the INSLAW matter, and then report back to him. The special counsel would be selected by Barr; would be subservient to him; and would report to him. Barr could then ignore the recommendations if, in the remote possibility the special counsel did not cooperate in the expected cover-up . . .
Why I can no longer be comfortable voting for DJT. I know big Trump defenders constantly blame his advisors, but he should’ve known this guy was dirty. And if he has advisors who are not serving him well, then that’s on him.
I've watched Trump for 45 yrs because I knew he would be president one day. He's not an idiot, he's very astute about people and he works in very unusual, often unfathomable ways - that in the end always work. He appointed the criminals to office for 2 reasons:
1) to show the public how crooked they are. This needed to be done to wake the public up.
2) to entrap them in their crimes so he could prosecute them.
We can't take things at face value at this point. There is so much going on behind the scenes that we have NO idea about. We are meant to do our research of everything then put the pieces together. Trump isn't stupid enough to get sucked in by these criminals and not know they are crooks.
Who was AG for 9-11 attack by an international and inside team of people high enough up the food chain to control response to the disasters????? Well, it was Bill Barr, the CIA operative, night-school lawyer, and now appointed to the highest legal office?? That's strange. Why was he appointed by Trump? Was he keeping his enemies closer like he did with Mike Pompeo, CoS. Were they lured into treason?
It wasn't Bill Barr, it was John Ashcroft. Bill Barr was A.G. 1991 to 1993. Nor did Trump "lure" anyone into treason. They had already committed treason, he was simply giving them a chance to be shown to the public as to who and what they really were - America hating, treasonous liars, thieves and many of them pedophiles. The public needed to be shown the truth about them before arresting them.
I begin to think that all Dem efforts to keep Kennedy out of view might have the (unanticipated?) secondary effect of keeping him alive - at least long enough to stir more citizens into awareness that no one's coming and we've got to rescue ourselves.
At this juncture, the Dems' teeth just got a lot sharper vis-a-vis RFK, Jr. With such a crappy debate performance, moderate dem voters, especially women, will be incentivized to vote for RFK, Jr. in November, so as to avoid voting for Trump or Biden. Prior to last night, it was debatable how many votes RFK, Jr. was siphoning off from Biden vs. Trump. Now things have changed. He clearly will siphon off more votes from Biden. He's the perfect vote splitting spoiler now. The Dems will be out to totally destroy him, while the Republicans, who normally would do that job, will back off. RFK, Jr.'s presence in this race is also another good reason why replacing Biden as the Dem nominee is a non-starter.
RFK Jr. is just warming up. Next phase of his campaign is a concentrated confrontation with legacy media/MSM/NPR. It will be directed by his campaign but carried out by his supporters. They will be inundating local network affiliates and NPR stations as well as local newspapers with phone calls demanding that they explain why they are ignoring him. Stay tuned.
Anything is possible, but just a bit ago Vanity Fair came out with a hit piece on RFK, Jr. about an alleged sexual assault claim in his past. They'll destroy him rather than look to him as a savior, which is foolish in my opinion.
It's waaaaay too big to rig. Yes, there could be an assassination. But they won't be able to steal another election with fraud. 5-7 states won't be enough now. You can throw in Virginia, New Hampshire, and Minnesota on top of those other 6 states.
Really interesting comment. This touches on a sense I have that fundamentally everything we are seeing is scripted, and the players are constructs. “China” “Russia” “Covid” “Biden” “Trump” are at some level “UNREAL” in the sense that they are “entities” that are in large part plastic media phenomena—shells that are rapidly being moved around in front of us for us to get drawn in to trying to guess which one the pea of the day is hidden under. Meanwhile, the actual controllers of the Truman Show are NOT nervous—to the degree that they continue to believe that they are in a position so insulated that at any point in the game they could dump our entire “aquarium” (economy-civilization) down the sink and start over. Were they biting their nails when they took down Khadaffi or Saddam? I don’t think so. Control of the money power gives the ability to raise an army to do what you want done anytime. You just find some ambitious psychopaths and fund and protect them while they build what you want built. I heard that J.P.Morgan once boasted he could hire half the middle class to kill the other half. Saddam had a big army and palaces etc. but when they turned on him they found the dogs they needed and ran him down in the desert. The money power is very great and very reliably effective UNTIL it comes up against the Divine, by which I mean whatever it is that is the Source of Love and Humor. Love and Humor transcend the levers of the money power, Fear and Greed. They are of a higher order value that the money power simply can’t ultimately touch. They can be killed but they keep welling back up, so “Team Evil” cannot subtract it from the world and forget about it like they are trying to do.
I recently Heard the interview of Bukele by Tucker Carlson and I was struck by Bukele’s statement that when they decided to go after the gangs in El Salvador, they only lost 8 men rounding up the 30-40,000 gang members they incarcerated. I would have thought they might have lost thousands. Why didn’t they? That would be an interesting study. The gangs were relying on sheer terror, killing people at random to try to dominate the situation. I think there must have been a profound spiritual dimension to this contest. Ordinary humans who have not “sold their souls” want to enjoy ordinary love and humor, and you can’t do that if you are willing to commit murder so you can join a gang and share in the “rewards.” As such you lack soul force and you will lose the combat against men whose souls are intact once those men understand what is at stake. Because they are capable of self sacrifice, which is anathema to the Satanists, who try to sacrifice everyone but themselves, and forfeit the ability to participate in the Realm of Love and Humor to do so, thus consigning themselves to “Hell.” I think it is that simple, ultimately. So I can understand that perhaps now THEY are running as they are becoming exposed to the men who still have souls who understand what has been happening and recognize the need to identify, find, and deal with them up close and personally.
Well, last time they did it DURING election voting which is why counting suddenly stopped at the same time in multiple precincts. The weighting had to be recalibrated. Then the western states (think Arizona) had to be called early to suppress voting there.
They found them in Motor/Voter laws. And that’s where they will find them again. Illegals with driver’s licenses converted to state licenses. They won’t actually vote, but their identities will.
North Philly precincts routinely have Democrat votes totaling 130% of the total number of registered voters. Been that way for decades. Nobody seems to notice, let alone do anything about it.
The US constitution has provisions for removing a president if he or she is unfit to serve. The left-liberal media was all over that when Trump was president but mysteriously forgot about the issue as of 2020.
I remember taking a class with a constitutional law professor who was ranting about the need to invoke Section 4 (or whatever Section it is) on Trump. I'm going to bet he doesn't say a peep about that Section these days.
Our society worships black criminals as saints, embraces mass street celebrations by sodomites, and tells us with a straight face that men are women and vice versa. We have a people problem.
Small minorities get the job done, and always have. The rest of us post grumbling messages on Substack or X, hate read articles, drink beer and watch sportsball, and shrug our shoulders. In other words, we the people are lazy and shiftless.
True until recently. I believe the veil has been lifted on the cesspool that the Dems have created by letting the minority far-left serve as spokesmen for and otherwise run their party. I think the days of begrudging acceptance on our side have come to an end, after years of heaping bullshit upon bullshit.
Not quite. My dad used to say: people with full stomachs don't start revolutions. In the western countries, the majority have full stomachs, so 'lazy and shiftless' is really 'too much still to lose'. Probably won't be that way for long.
There's an inner core of true believers enabled by a broad outer core of nice, smiling ladies of both sexes working in nonprofits or universities with kids at the "better" public schools and private schools. Without the latter, the former would be impotent—all dressed up with nowhere to go.
Luckily not all of the higher-level military commanders are on-board with the Mark Milley agenda. And just about zero of the enlisted men/women and NCO’s.
So, still a minority, even within the walls of the Pentagon.
When murderous SecDef Austin forced troops to take the covid DeathVax or be punished for refusal, how many senior officers pushed back?
None.
I would have thought that the Commandant of the Marine Corps would have said, "no fucking way are you injecting my Marines with an experimental mRNA gene therapy full of spike proteins, lipid nanonparticles, polyethylene glycol, and other toxins."
Agreed. And they have been busy behind the scenes. They have formed the white hats military and are busy arresting criminals, have been for at least 2 yrs, probably 3. I saw a post when Trump was still in office, asking for military vets to re-enlist no matter what age. Trump put us under martial law Jan. 6 when there was an insurrection of the criminals in Congress, led by Nancy Pelosi. When there is civil uprising, martial law can be initiated. Biden is an illegitimate president, as Trump abolished U.S.A., Inc. (we were incorporated and became a corporation in 1871). Biden isn't president but Trump is still commander-in-chief of military, backed by over 200 generals. It was the white hats in military who invited Trump to run for president. They did this in April 2015. If you doubt any of this, do some research, info is all out there. I've researched eep state for 27 yrs every single day and have gathered lots of info. Here is one place to start:
well--obviously he's not in control on anything-- and they all know it. SO that's why they're not worried. So who IS in charge and why don't we get to vote for the actual President anymore?
I'll tell you how it happened. Powerful people put in place a partially senile Biden because he was easy to control. He stayed in place because every American knows Kamala Harris could be worse. Nobody us willing to impeach Joe because they would get Kamala.
> In a sane society the collective realization that we have had a clearly senile person in charge of our nuclear launch codes
Not trying to pick on you just using this as an opportunity to soapbox more.
How can anyone actually seriously believe that the president is in charge of the nuclear launch codes? That's insane.
Just about literally every security system that has ever been rolled out has, at some level, an administrative override controlled by whoever set up the system. This is why, for instance, when I worked at a financial services firm I could just log in to the database, look at anyone's private financial information (SSN, credit score, bank statements, etc), and the only thing stopping me was the honour system (+ the thought that if I abused that priviliege I'd probably get fired eventually).
What does it mean, in a very literal sense, for the president to "be in charge of the nuclear launch codes"? As I understand it, it means that he has the 'nuclear football', some kind of technological device he uses to authorize the use of nuclear weapons.
Ok, but, I mean, he wasn't the president prior to 2020, so who gave him the football? Do presidents hand it down one by one like some ancient artifact?
Where does the football go when he's done with it? Does he give it back to Trump? Would any sane politician do that if he seriously believed the other guy was going to end the world with it?
Presidents aren't nuclear physicists. The nuclear football wasn't built by a president, it was built by a bunch of military engineers. They must maintain it actively, because no piece of technology can sit for 50 years and still work.
How do you know they didn't put a failsafe in it? They didn't put some kind of "oh shit the president is insane we need to stop him" backup plan inside. Every security system has a secret superadmin override in it. Only ALL of them.
Biden's obvious dementia is demoralizing and depressing but I don't for a second believe it poses a serious nuclear security risk. He has people around him who wouldn't allow that. For that matter, 100% one of the secret service guys has the job of murdering the president if it comes to that. 100%. As I've said for a long time, the presidency isn't a guy, it's a team. I don't care if their face man is insane, as long as the people telling him what to do aren't
The "Football" is a device capable of generating authorization codes. Those authorization codes would then be sent to the chain of command, which would serve to unlock further ones, eventually to the level where the two guys with codes and keys are ready to input them and turn the keys and actual arm some nuclear device.
There is no "button" that actually launches missiles or drops bombs. There is something analogous to a button that can eventually *cause* the launching of missiles and the dropping of bombs, but it's like saying that Helen of Troy had a face that launched a thousand ships. She was not literally pushing ships down the launch ramps with her face. ;)
Frankly, the worse part of the current presidency isn't that a severe dementia patient hold the position, but that it means that even more so than usual, there are completely unelected people steering the country. Not that elections are any guarantee of competence, but we're supposed to at least *notionally* have a say in things.
> The "Football" is a device capable of generating authorization codes. Those authorization codes would then be sent to the chain of command, which would serve to unlock further ones, eventually to the level where the two guys with codes and keys are ready to input them and turn the keys and actual arm some nuclear device.
Basically my point is that every single person in that chain has the ability to disobey orders.
> Frankly, the worse part of the current presidency isn't that a severe dementia patient hold the position, but that it means that even more so than usual, there are completely unelected people steering the country.
I agree with this but am so cynical that I interpret it as "it's always been like this, we can just see it now" and so I am not bothered marginally more than I was already bothered
> Basically my point is that every single person in that chain has the ability to disobey orders.
Right, absolutely. My comment was intended in support of yours, apologies if that didn't come across properly.
> I agree with this but am so cynical that I interpret it as "it's always been like this, we can just see it now" and so I am not bothered marginally more than I was already bothered
I'd say I am bothered by it *marginally* more than I was before, just because it's being done so blatantly. Though perhaps it's better if everyone can see it, than if it remains in the shadows.
Agreed. I am not bothered by the fact that they're doing it. I know they're always doing it. They're _probably_ doing it with Trump, too.
I'm bothered by the fact that they're so goddamn bad at it.
I believe this is intentional. It has deep parallels to various things throughout history. IIRC, Spandrell once blogged about this. He is a self-claimed student of Chinese history and one day, probably 15 years ago at this point, he wrote a post called 'point deer make horse'.
Apparently, "point deer make horse" is the Chinese equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes story, but it takes a rather different tack. In the west, The Emperor's New Clothes story ends with the innocence of a child showing everyone the error of their ways.
In the Chinese story, there's an emperor who has a deer in his court, and whenever he has guests, he makes a big point of pointing at the deer and saying "wow what a beautiful horse this is". And whenever anyone corrects him, they're executed on the spot.
The moral of the story in the Chinese version is twofold. First off: don't publicly contradict your superiors. But secondly, there is a connotation of 'breaking the spirit'. If the Emperor was trying to make people believe a _plausible_ lie, you could kind of make your peace with it. But this is a lie where everyone knows it's a lie, and everyone-knows-that-everyone-knows that it's a lie, and everyone knows that when you say it, you're lying. Forcing people into this situation rapidly breaks their souls, because it evokes a feeling of psychological distress of the form "I am so broken by this man that he can force me to do _anything_". It's kind of a psychological version of "stop hitting yourself" schoolyard bullying.
They do it blatantly on purpose, because the more blatant they make it without anyone like you or I standing up and _successfully_ pointing out to the public the absurdity, the more our spirits break
Do you really, truly, seriously, believe that if the president one day said "fuck niggers, let's nuke africa", not one person in that chain of command would stop him?
I do not believe that for a second. A secret service agent would put a bullet in the president's head before allowing that
And honestly? I'd be much much much more concerned if I didn't believe this
I don't think I disagree with you in the way that you may perceive. Your over-the-top scenario would likely be responded to by people immediately resigning, rather than following such an order, so likely the same result as you describe would occur - that the order would not be able to be executed. But that is very different from disobeying an order. Where the extreme-ness of an order is not so obvious and it involves using nukes, for example in the case of us being struck first, that's when things get serioiusly difficult to disobey an order, regardless of the perceived incompetency of the Executive issuing the order.
For me, the worrisome thing is that I've come to believe that Biden has pretty much always just been a front man who reads the teleprompter words that those in power have written for him to say. Others whose names we do not know (for sure) and who were not elected and who are not accountable have been running the country all this time. That should frighten people.
Chilling to say the least, that a twenty-something White House intern with a Ukrainian flag on his profile who nobody knows, much less has voted for, may yet get us into World War 3. Should give anyone pause.
I think you need to read Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson. It details every minute from when an enemy nuclear launch is detected until the 72 minutes later when America is obliterated, having first launched all their missiles back. It's not a happy ending.
It goes into great detail about all the procedures; it is the President's decision alone to launch - he can be advised by the chiefs but it is his decision - no one else's. And the 'football' is always with him wherever he goes, carried by a military handler.
At a time when American missiles are being fired into Russian territory from Ukraine by American personnel I would suggest everybody needs to understand the process and the potential consequences... It's terrifying! "The survivors will envy the dead. "
I genuinely don't think total world nuclear war will ever happen as the rich wouldn't allow that to happen. The late Daniel Ellsberg dedicated his life to preventing nuclear war. I'm convinced that the need to prevent that outcome is what made absolutely anything and everything, no matter how heinous and evil, permissable towards that end. I also think there are numerous back up systems of control to prevent that occurring, though they want to terrify us with it. Signs went up about what to do in the event of a nuclear strike in NYC, for instance. I do think tactical suitcase nukes might be used, and these braindead incompetents wouldn't comprehend that radiation transcends borders. The crisis might be used to trick us into lockdown, too, or into duck taping up our houses and fearing our supposedly radiated neighbors or wildlife. People went crazy during Fukushima, buying out iodized salt, and the total whack Ann Coulter said radiation (via a simplified version of the theory of hormesis) was good for us. I'm sure that hasn't gone unnoticed as a nudge unit tool. In California there were plans drawn up, prelude to our cognitively impaired bureaucracies, to send the mail up the coast to the little town of Bolinas if SF got nuked. Our neighbor built a bomb shelter during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Radiation mostly terrifies ordinary people, but those that work in the nuke plants in the US were in denial over radiation and would have contests to see who could get the most rads on their measurement badges. John Hersey's Hiroshima really describes what happens, and those were tiny early bombs.
Agree generally but Sniffer in Chief has never been in control of anything including his bowels since his candidacy started. Even so, the operators of the Blunder Administration have driven us damn close to kinetic nuclear war anyway.
I think the assumption one has to make that he simply isn’t in charge at all but that he is (or rather was) a convenient (incompetent, corrupt, hence easily controllable) puppet that now has run the course of his usefulness as the election approaches. It had already become apparent in the months before that he was being slowly phased out, as the public was allowed to see more and more of his dementia (which could easily have been prevented). So the question is, who will replace him and when?
Those surprised or shocked by Biden's state must be outsourcing their cognition to digital media. Talking heads told them for months what they should believe, not what the reality was.
Exactly. Everyone who reads substacks, conservative or alternative media already knew Biden’s condition. They also knew the DNC’s next move- remove him and offer Michelle Obama as the candidate. Right on schedule, today USA Today ran an article saying just that. All of this is theater. It is absolutely scripted and planned.
Democrat party apparatchiks now have a pretext for installing a Biden replacement with no input from voters. Which raises the question of whether this was the plan the whole time. His obvious dementia is not a recent development.
The debasement of his 'cognitive capacities' was already clear in that - basement. That anyone should be surprised by the now catatonic human scarecrow - that is the horror.
Respectfully disagree. They propped him up for the state of the union address, which they claimed dispelled all the naysaying that he was losing it. They thought with the strict format that they set up with ABC that they could duplicate the result of the SoU address. So, they are very much surprised by this turn of events, as they expected him to at least be as "on task" as he was at the SoU address in the winter. If they had known that he was this dysfunctional, they would not have allowed him to debate at all, as it is political malpractice for a candidate with the natural advantage of incumbency.
i think they were worried the stims would run out under 90 minutes, so they gave him them as late as possible, but he just didnt digest them in time to wake up then later his eyes are black saucers! Which is why they refused testing.
I’m guessing they couldn’t blast Joe and his ego and Dr. Jill out of there if they’d used dynamite, so they goaded him into this pathetic performance on the national stage so that he and those around him, who had kept insisting that Joe was the second coming of FDR, would finally be forced to see the stark reality of what is in all actuality just a nasty variety of elder abuse.
Either way, they still have an election ahead of them, for Joe, or whomever they install as his replacement (my money is on Hillary). But what will they do with Kamala?
"...would finally be forced to see the stark reality of what is in all actuality just a nasty variety of elder abuse."
But clearly Jill Biden doesn't see it that way, as she did the "oh Emperor, your clothes are just beautiful" routine in the face of the obvious carnage. Don't underestimate the ability of the Dems to remain in a state of denial.
In fact, I just now saw a headline: "President refuses to drop out of race, makes admission about widely panned debate performance" the attached video to that headline was rich indeed, with the crowd of supporters chanting to Biden at the podium "yes you can, yes you can!" The power of denial is strong no matter how farcical.
I still believe that this small kernel of fanatical, Biden-til-the-bitter-enders is a small minority whose tone deafness to the drumbeat around them makes them more of a carnival sideshow spectacle than a political threat.
Dr. Jill’s cajoling rant after the debate was clearly more tantalizing click-bait than any bearded lady could compete with 🧔♀️
The bitter-enders constitute all the campaign personnel, and virtually all of the executive branch, including all cabinet members (unless KH chooses to go for a 25th Amendment process - she won't because she's too chicken). And even if that group of people is smaller than the rest of the DNC machine, they have control of all the campaign's fundraising money accumulated to date. True, the money will now take a pause from some of the donors who were blindsided by this, and maybe that's how they get JB to step aside. Absent that, JB's not going anywhere. And his bitter-end approach matters. Because if he won't step aside voluntarily, the opposing powers that be would have to engage in a floor fight at the convention to wrestle the nomination away from Biden's hands - which I personally would love to see! But I think the opposing powers that be will also be too chicken to try this.
'His obvious dementia is not a recent development.'
Last night Matt Taibbi told how he was covering the 2019/2020 campaign, and all the journalists knew Biden was already failing, but participated in a conspiracy of silence. The media has a lot to answer for but unfortunately there's no one to hold them to account. They're not going to do it to themselves.
That hangs together. But I'm having trouble imagining how they came up with Gavin Newsom as a replacement. He's every bit as un-electable as Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. The only conclusion I can come to is that the Democrats, for all their careful planning and clever wordplay, really are that stupid and out-of-touch.
Some candidacies look better in theory than in practice. Remember 2007 when Rudy Giuliani was the surefire GOP Presidential nominee? He was unbeatable until people started voting.
Yes they have the pretext, but not necessarily the ability to pull it off, because there will be a huge fight with the folks who are running Biden's campaign.
I've been saying since 2020 that Michelle Obama will end up the Democrat nominee, and I stand by that. She ticks all the intersectional boxes, has massive support from the Ellen/View/Soccer Mum media Karens, and is power hungry enough to want it.
Democrats could also present her as a return to normalcy, much as they did with Biden in 2020, as incorrect as this is.
I wouldn't discard the chance of the Democrats dropping the mask and just nominating one of the security agency spooks who actually run the country anyway. Adam Schiff maybe?
It's either one of these or they wheel out Hillary Clinton again. Shudder.
Maybe, but he has an incredibly bad record as Governor of California, one which even Californian Democrats are critical of, let alone your run of the mill PA Democrats, let alone independents or those somehow still on the fence.
That was the most ruthless political spectacle I've ever seen. What happened was effectively a hit on their own candidate in broad daylight. The way all of state-media was in lock-step makes it clear. Within seconds they were all using the same description "halting performance." A flash memo went out. This was all planned. His condition was no secret. All insiders knew it. And in a way it's brilliant. They scheduled the debate unusually early in the cycle so they could dump him. Now the Party leaders can install whoever they want as their candidate without letting a pesky detail like a democratic primary get in the way.
Joe will drop out. Surely we've seen hints there might be some leverage there darker forces would have no qualms about using to their advantage should it be necessary but they don't want to alienate older voters so it will be made to look like a solemn passing of the torch. It will also be made to look like Kamala is given the option but after much reflection with friends and family she will decide now is not the right time to be POTUS. Maybe it's Newsom. Or maybe they reach for someone who appears less radical? It doesn't really matter much. The media/DNC will go full-throttle on Trump's age with Biden out of the picture. And the contrast between him and a younger candidate will be striking.
I know conservatives are excited about this. They think the Party is panicking but I don't buy it for a second. This was always the plan. I'm more nervous for the fate of the country than I ever have been. There is a nasty group of brutal individuals running this country and they have no intention of stopping.
I agree that there are significant power factions in the Deep State that want Biden replaced, and likely they angled to get this debate staged to achieve this outcome. However, if all the power factions were in harmony about this, Biden would have not run again at all. If you talk with the average lukewarm regime supporter, you see quickly that they have been told for years to have a good deal of sympathy for Biden, to see him as a "peoples champion."
If the power factions who want him replaced get their way, there is a significant hit to the legitimacy of the Presidency in both principle and as it applies to Biden and his "successor." Also, the whole legitimacy-generating show of the elections suffers further erosion after the "irregularities" of 2020.
"However, if all the power factions were in harmony about this, Biden would have not run again at all."
If they had done this by-the-book then they would've had to deal with primaries and appeasing/debating with more extreme minority factions within the Party. This was the optimal time to make a change, IMO, and incur the least amount of damage/risk for whoever the actual candidate will be. "Vote Blue No Matter Who!" well now they don't even have to worry about it.
If there was harmony among Democrat factions on the plan to replace Biden and a desire to sidestep an open primary, you'd have seen Biden booked to appear on primetime TV around this time (after primaries but before convention) not to debate Trump but to give a solemn scripted LBJ-esque speech about how his doctors just diagnosed him with such-and-such and that for the good of both his country and his family he was now turning down the nomination and withdrawing from the race.
The fact that he made a spectacle of himself and gave Trump 90 minutes of positive airtime suggests to me that things aren't exactly following a unified front's Plan A.
Under that scenario he would've faced much stronger calls to resign his current position right now. You'll notice none of the media organs are calling for that nor even discussing it. It's just about the campaign -- which is itself insane, assuming the Joe Biden we all saw actually has the ability to eg. launch a preemptive nuclear strike (which I seriously doubt.)
I know many people (including eugyppius) see this as some sort of intra-party faction battle but I don't see that at all. This Party is foremost run by the security state. Joe's inner circle have no real power. When he leaves they're all discarded. His campaign will make some noise about not giving up but they will be made to give up. Sure Obama and Clinton voiced support. What else were they going to do publicly? They want the Party to save face. You can be sure privately the message is getting delivered. At the end of the day, even Obama and the Clintons don't have any real power either that can't be instantly taken away by those that do.
The tell is always what the security state's media organs say and do. The NYT editorial board said it's time to go. Without them Joe has nothing.
There is meaningful crossover between the permanent Security State and Biden’s inner circle of advisors and cabinet appointees. That's the crux of the matter.
Who do you think organized the 2020 campaign-saving “Letter from 51 Former Intelligence Leaders” falsely denouncing the Hunter Laptop as some kind of Russian intelligence scheme (which formed part of the air cover to justify Facebook / Twitter suppressing the NYPost’s completely accurate reporting on the matter, thus throwing the election)?
Anthony Blinken. The current secretary of state. Yes - he had the entire leadership tier of the Deep State on his Speed Dial.
To me, the Clinton, Obama, Biden, etc., crime families are simply the public faces of different factions or wings within the deeper security state, and these factions compete and cooperate at different levels much like the old Mafia organizations in NY and Chicago.
Trump, Bernie Sanders, RFK Jr and others (possibly including DeSantis) are so radioactive to the security state and their mass media apparatchiks precisely because they are not on board with the role of being the public-facing puppets of the spymasters and therefore threaten that mafia's monopoly on the levers of state.
It's not strictly an R-vs-D thing in any deeply historical sense. The Bush family got 3 terms in the White House because they literally *were* the Deep State - George H.W. was CIA head-honcho before becoming veep and then President; W was always careful to keep Dick Cheney deeply involved in policy. And have you seen what Dick's daughter Liz has been like in Congress?
To close with an aside - this has also been my working theory in the Epstein case since the day he was arrested at Teterboro Airport after flying in from France. That is, his fall from grace and loss of protection was one Deep State faction executing some kind of hostile takeover of another faction by neutralizing a key asset and seizing the trove of Kompromat.
There are certainly direct connections from the security state to Biden world. How else could this absurd debate have been arranged anyway? But I'm not sure I'd classify Blinken as a true member of Biden's inner circle. Blinken is foremost a security state operator. Joe's true inner circle are guys like Mike Donilon, Ted Kaufman, and Ron Klain. As an aside, the inner circle seemingly had plans for Tom Donilon (Mike's brother) to run the CIA as evidenced by Biden planning to appoint him as director back in 2020 (when he was referred to as the front-runner for the position by CNN/Politico) but that didn't happen for whatever reason.
I completely agree this isn't R vs. D. When I say "the Party" I don't strictly mean Democrats -- although that's clearly the coopted party of the moment. The true Party is much more fluid in my estimation. (And FWIW, I'm not so sure RFK Jr. scares the security state. I don't really trust him but I'm also not sure what's going on with his candidacy. I used to think he was meant to foil DeSantis and would drop out after DeSantis did but I guess that wasn't accurate.)
I'm not convinced there was any real "kompromat" in the Epstein affair. How could whoever have seized it been sure they got everything? I think it was some sort of facade for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me. I think the Epstein blackmail mythology was the point and perhaps the general public weren't the intended primary audience.
I agree. Allowing a man with such obvious detriments to participate in a televised debate is incredibly cruel and even criminal. But what does “criminal” even mean anymore. I am clinging to my eternal hope in Jesus.
Why should this have surprised anyone? It unfolded exactly as expected to anyone even casually observing Biden recently. How’s he going to be in 3 years? These people who claim they haven’t decided yet if he should be replaced are lying and/or delusional. Hence it was a planned public execution.
my impression is that they’ve gotten Biden minimally functional for press events and speeches down to this point. i expected his performance to be less than spectacular, but nowhere near this bad.
The looks on Biden's handlers' and party members' faces whenever he spoke the last couple years made it clear: the people around him are well aware of his mental state. Blinken on Air Force One comes to mind as a recent example.
In fact, he was significantly in better shape for his speech in North Carolina today (because it was scripted) except for talking too rapidly and slurring his words (not to mention the logical fallacies ad nauseam). It's clear that he flounders when there is unscripted questions that he may be required to answer. Contemporaneous speech is what sets him into a cognitive twilight zone.
He seemed jacked up again for the "rally" he had after the debate, somewhat in the manner of the SOTU speech but not quite as hyped up, but a very different demeanor from the debate. I wonder what they give him? But the other question was why he wasn't given that stuff for the debate. It was almost like he was stoned or something.
And at the rally, he was doing the amped-up shouting, almost angry shouting, to get the audience revv'd up against Trump. Dementia patients often are more lucid and articulate when they are in a state of high emotion, either angry or happy. My mom went through it before she died. By the end she couldn't speak at all, until one day she was mad at my father and was able to mouth the words "I'm gonna kill him!" Good question about the drugs not being effective during the debate. I just think most of the questions he was asked were about bland policy issues. No emotional excitement, no ability to articulate his thoughts clearly. So we got the dementia "doll face" with that blank stare, especially when it wasn't his turn to talk.
Maybe the plan is to show how ridiculous our "greatest system in the world " is. Maybe this is a mockery? Maybe they want us to be sick of it so something better, not so messy, will replace it. Rest assured they'll blame the public because we're too stupid to select our leaders.
It's always the lesser of 2 evils, why?
Trump did not best his beleaguered opponent.
In a parallel story Jake Paul, brash and controversial, boxes old washed up professional athletes. Makes a ton of money with the over the top spectacle. This feels similar to me.
Biden was installed , and remains, as part of the ritual humiliation of the entire nation. What better humiliation could be concocted?
By whatever it is that controls the USA, specifically the DC Sewer, with I guess tentacles extending back to NYC then abroad.
I call it The Monster. It matters not what form it takes. Not right now. But there is no question the US Government serves The Monster, NOT the US people.
He was installed to excuse evil intent and action as simple incompetence.
Look at the guy.
If he was not a tool of Empire they would have invoked the 25th years ago. They would have never let him run.
With all eyes on the flood of savages crossing the border - and somehow eligible to vote - there is a ready made excuse for whatever electoral upset caps off this abysmal year. A cover for even more blatant tampering than in 2020.
It has been clear for a while, but none of the western nations are voting their way out of this fatal terrain.
The Monster has spent generations putting us into an unwinnable position.
Or so they think.
Turns out the answer was staring us in the face the whole time.
Reading between the lines, it seems there are different factions within the Democratic Party, but the anti-Biden faction has certainly profited from this.
There's a reason this was the earliest first debate ever and one of the latest debates ever scheduled for the last one. We shouldn't kid ourselves....the D's always have a plan....and in the end they will all march together like the Red Guard.
It was just a matter of time before that waxed dummy with marbles in his mouth froze up.
The split screen format is a very small detail that could very well determine this election.
You could've turned the volume off and just watched the comparison in the presentation of their "presence". A mummy would've presented better than Biden. Very similar to the 60' debate between Nixon and JFK.
I was thinking the exact same about the Nixon-Kennedy debate. Death knell for the campaigns of both him and Joe. The cameras are not kind to Joe (thus recent claims of “deepfakes” and “cheap fakes” by White House staff and Karine Jean-Pierre).
You said: "There's a reason this was the earliest first debate ever and one of the latest debates ever scheduled for the last one."
I agree with that, but not in the way that you mean. I assert that the reason the Dem campaign scheduled things the way they did was in the hope of a strong performance in the first debate, such that they could cancel the second one in October. They're just that cocky. They were assuming that the way they set up the format for this debate would be similar enough to the state of the union address (where they all claim that Biden performed well and put the naysayers in their place) such that he could succeed. After all, Trump wasn't allowed to interrupt him, so, what could go wrong?
So, I assert that his handlers absolutely did not expect him to fail to this extent. They are genuninely stunned by this. From their conventional wisdom point of view, it's already too late to field new candidates for the nomination. They remember the debacle in 1968 at the convention, and they really really wanted a coronation this year in August, not a floor-fight. They know they are going to have their hands full with the pro-Palestine protesters at the convention. So this latest development makes things worse. Just getting the states to get the November ballots printed correctly is going to be a complete cluster.
The best part of this from my point of view is that the factions that will be promoting replacing Biden are going to be in for a spectacular fight against those folks who are utterly entrenched in their current position of defending him. Campaigns are about loyalty. Biden's defenders who know this, and they cannot, they will not, abide suggestions of pulling Joe Biden out of this race against his will. That is because, if they do this, they'll never be trusted to work in a future campaign ever again. Jill Biden is certainly not helping those who want to replace him, as she is his chief dementia enabler, blowing sunshine up his butt telling him what a great job he did.
For a replacement to occur, the first thing that needs to happen is for the campaign chair to resign. I don't know much of anything about Jen O'Malley Dillon, but my guess is that she perceives that she worked hard to get to this position. She was previously the deputy Chief of Staff for the White house during the past three years. So, unless a really really big donor comes forward to make her an offer she can't refuse, I am guessing that her first priority is to maintain her entrenched position, to prove her loyalty to the President, and hope for the best.
Interesting analysis; I hadn’t thought of the debate schedule in the way you described. My view has been that the June debate was planned to showcase Joe’s dementia early enough in order to prepare the base for a new candidate in time for the convention. Additionally, they were counting on low information voters not to be watching along with lots of others who are not yet following the campaign and who won’t until after Labor Day. We may never know but one thing is certain: Democrats will stoop to anything to keep their hold on power.
You're right, we may never know. But I'm betting Jen O'Malley Dillon's motivation was to get her candidate ready to "shine" in that debate - hence the 8 days of preparation, the ear piece, all the rules that favored Biden (e.g., no live audience; no ability for Trump to interrupt him, etc.). She wants a promotion to Chief of Staff or some other higher post in the next Biden administration. There is no way she was part of some group of Dems that purposely set out to have Biden fail so miserably on purpose. I believe they thought they could pull this off - hubris is one of their defining characteristics.
This has always been the plan. They are waiting for the right time, before anyone has a chance to fully vet the candidate and they will full court press that campaign. This debate has one purpose: to get all of America on board with a new,late-stage candidate.
I don’t think so. They’ve known (and been selling the fact) that he is incompetent. But they needed the debate to drive it home to the masses. It’s all a set up. They need to seem sincere and justified.
They most definitely have not been selling that he is incompetent - prior to the debate debacle. They clearly are now, but notice, not enough to do the most obvious thing: the 25th Amendment maneuver. So if this was a set up, they would have KH invoke the 25th Amendment. But they're not doing that. They're publicly defending him. They need to appear loyal. I'm certain that they are desperately trying to get him to step aside, behind the scenes. But if they were bright (they're not) and they actually had planned this in advance, they would have endgamed the strategy execution in advance. But there is no execution of an endgame right now, one week after the debate debacle. Also, the Convention folks have been advertising that they are going to certify Biden's delegates to the states in the middle of this month, partly to comply with the ballot rules for the state of Ohio. So, if their edgame plan was to replace him in a floor fight at the Convention, they won't be able to do so, if he refuses to bow out. It's a cluster. You don't plan clusters of this magnitude in advance.
I have such a hard time believing they left anything up to chance re the leader of the free world. They were able to coordinate a fake pandemic world wide with media, military, corporations and every foreign government. But they’re incompetent over the presidency? I think that’s naive. Something is happening.
There are so many "news stories" that she does not like politics and enjoys her life as is. Why put all that out there if they are going to slide her in? And what do they do with The Cackler?
Gavin Newsome is extremely unlikeable even amongst radical democrat extremists and would perform worse than Biden. Michelle Obama is the obvious replacement. And God save our world when he is installed.
You mean Mike don’t you? That would be a fatal mistake in the part of the Dems!! A part of why they are normalizing trans everything, but it will backfire!!!
I don't think so. A majority of the population has no idea what the Big Mike reference means. Only we political junkies. Besides, if they voted for Biden the sock puppet it doesn't matter who takes his place as long as there is a D after her/his name.
A white man stepping over the heir apparent? Where's the DEI in that? Plus the rest of the country hates California. Hell even California hates California.
I think they have to keep Kamala on as the diversity hire. To throw her over at this point would alienate too many in their base. So the real question is: who would Kamala willingly take a backseat to? Definitely not Newsome. Possibly Killary.
"Wisconsin does not allow withdrawal from the ballot for any reason besides death.
In Nevada, no changes can be made to the ballot after 5 p.m. on the fourth Friday in June of an election year or 'a nominee dies or is adjudicated insane or mentally incompetent.'
If Biden were to withdraw less than 60 days before the election in Georgia his name will remain on the ballot but no votes will be counted."
In Wisconsin, the candidates for President aren't even *put on* the ballot until September.
If Joe bows out now, he's not withdrawing from the ballot and there's really no problem.
The Daily Mail did a terrible job of reporting this, but the Heritage Foundation paper that they attempted to summarize in their article basically says that if Biden bows out before the convention, the delegates in Chicago will pick some other candidate and he'll get onto every state's ballot with little legal trouble.
I used to think Newsom would be the one but have been reading recently that he’s becoming hugely unpopular in his own state over transgender issues where children are concerned, taxation, and other issues. He may be regarded as too far left now to be considered for national office. Right now I don’t think there is a Democrat anywhere in the country who can run and win the presidency. All are tainted.
You are correct that Joe Biden is a figurehead, but that has been the case since 2020. If you recall, Biden was floundering in the primaries until the call came for the other candidates to step aside. It was clear at that time that what the operatives behind the scenes (the Obamas specifically) wanted was a candidate with name recognition, who could perform well enough in a general election to be pulled across the finish line with strategic chicanery in a few cities. Those cities were Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix, Detroit and Milwaukee. They also wanted a candidate in office who would be pliable enough to allow them to actually run the show.
It is now clear that Biden cannot reach a level of performance in the 2024 election that will allow a repeat of the 2020 strategy. Biden himself could probably be pushed aside, but for the fact that his wife Jill really likes being first lady. My assessment is that she is the one stopping the party from replacing him. Even if they could replace him, the problem for the democrat operatives is that none of the sufficiently pliable candidates available are capable of the necessary performance in the general election either.
The only potential candidate with anything near the necessary name recognition and popularity is Hillary Clinton. But the Obamas and the Clintons hate each other. She also would try to run her own ship, which is not acceptable to the Obamas.
My view of the appropriate strategy for the democrats is to simply concede the election, and gird for a long fight in the courts. Even if Trump wins the general election, he would not have full control of the administrative state, which could simply slow walk his policies or outright refuse to implement them. They could fight a delaying action in the courts, further thwarting his policy initiatives through strategic forum selection, knowing that his next four years would be his last.
If Biden does not get replaced on the ballot, it is a sign that the Obamas have opted for my strategy. Even if he is replaced, my guess is that the deep state is preparing for this strategy.
They'll run Michele. She won't really need to do much. Just hang out on Martha's Vinyard and step out every now and again in a Presidential address to remind the nation that white supremancy is still our biggest threat. Her husband and the alphabet agencies will continue to run things as they are now.
Yes; expect to see sonorous articles in the FT from the likes of Edward Luce about why eternal litigaton by the Ds over the result of the election was not "election denial" which could be summed up as "it's different when we do it".
You give Obama way too much credit. Remember how he suddenly appeared as a DNC nominee, as a messiah out of nowhere? He himself is a puppet. He does not run shit.
I fear Michele Obama. She solves all their problems, especially the increasing loss of the minority vote. She will win in a landslide and only afterward with the nation wake up to the fact that they have continued the disasterous policies of the Biden admin for another four years. We all know the Obamas have been running the show anyway.
for the love of god there is ZERO chance Michelle Obama wants to be prez. Imagine her life for a moment: she wakes up every day in one of her mansions or in the mansion of a friend, has a full staff of servants, heads to a private plane for either a jaunt to a private island or maybe to some event to get her ass kissed, lives better than Louis XIV and has to answer to no one—and she's gonna trade this to negotiate a budget with some greasy reptiles in DC? Being prez would be a downgrade for her! She aint that stupid.
She keeps maintaining she has no interest in politics. But that makes her the candidate best suited for the position since others, just as with Biden, are running the show.
And that evil Jennifer, who was a man in the military and now wears dresses if I remember right. Pritzgers put Obama into power, one sits on the Harvard board and they are raking it in in SoCal from trans surgeries and human experimentation. I put them up there with the Sacklers for transmigrating geckos from beyond Antares. But the Walmart family is building Utopia, Telosa, in Arizona, so they come into it too. Apparently Bezos, whom they should've left in space, is building some kind of a bugout bunker in the hills of Mexico just south of the border. I'd say "eat the rich," but that would be like drinking kale smoothies for eternity.
I don't like either candidate and won't be casting my vote for the debatees, but I can tell you that this was not a great showing by either side. No one really answered the questions asked, especially Trump, as they were worried about making sure to respond to one another's boasts or criticism. They're both old men that don't deserve to be in the race but the facts are what they are likely to be in November - both will be on the ballot and will be the major choices. Bobby Kennedy seems more rational and relatable but there are issues there, as well. What a mess...
The DNC had the opportunity to allow an honest primary, which would have accelerated the revelation of Biden as a dementia patient. Bobby Kennedy would have been exactly the refresh the democrats needed to remain relevant. RFK would have likely won the general election against Trump without the usual election shenanigans that have become the new normal. But the DNC moved heaven and earth to prevent that situation, and look where they are now. Whatever one thinks of Kennedy, he is obviously anathema to the establishment, and that speaks volumes about what the power brokers have as their agenda.
Nope, he has a few videos on youtube about his position. No full term, no late term, and, unlike the anti-woman prolife people, he said he'd discovered that many women have abortions who want to keep their babies but can't afford it, so support for women to have the babies they want to have. You may not agree with early term, but progressives really are fine with very late term, and he's not like that.
That is a revised opinion then. Watch the Sage Steele interview. He says it. She gives him a chance to clarify and he says again no limits. His veep was interviewed and said she was surprised and didn't realize that was his position.
Where I maybe disagree with you is that I do think Bobby is a lot better (even if I don't agree with all his policies). I'm still hoping as the train wreck that was on that stage becomes more apparent, more Americans start to consider him as an alternative.
Same as before. If you don’t vote for Trump, you don’t love your nation and you don’t want current economic, geopolitical, or cultural conditions to improve.
Good, pithy summary of that surreal event. It's striking to see Biden's incoherent babblings transcribed in print.
I think I win the trophy for writing the most "Biden-has-dementia" stories (7). In every one of these stories, I point out the real scandal - e.g. Everyone who matters in America has KNOWN THIS for years. They've just covered it up and lied about it. If our trusted leaders and press can lie about a subject this important, they'd probably lie about anything and everything that was important to the public ... and have.
... Now we see why the release of those audio tapes would be seismic. Why is the "Justice" Department working so hard to cover up Biden's dementia?
It's like reading a story about a rich and powerful family, the fatherhead of which has gone senile, yet no-one dares challenge him for fear of the will being changed.
So everyone just smiles and nods and waits for him to pass, tongues tensing behind rictus grins, bodies ready to pounce to grab what they can once the patriarch croaks.
And then the doors of the mansion are kicked in by the rambunctious enfant terrible-relative ignored by the more staid members of the clan.
"Is it Biden's White House, or is it Dallas*?" so to speak.
*The TV-series, it was yuge over here in the 1980s.
You make me think of a book called From Beirut to Jerusalem by Thomas Friedman, in which he describes being in the back seat of a car trying to make it through an Islamist checkpoint, and the keffiyahed official pokes his AK47 through the half open window, pointing it at his heart, and says "Who shot JR?"
it was obvious to us. establishment media has been playing this down relentlessly. suddenly the dam has broken, and even German press are talking about this.
"Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible."
Normies can't see anything until the media tells them they're allowed to see it.
That might be happening now, but we'll have to wait and see. Sometimes the politically obsessed go off-script for a bit and then regroup and return to the status quo. Normies never notice the deviation because they aren't watching that closely. If the narrative on Biden next week is the same as last week's, that he's strong and in charge, last night will go down the memory hole for normies.
I was wondering the same thing since all conservatives have known about his dementia for years now. But when I talk to liberals, they ferociously deny that Biden is unfit cognitively. They get angry when it’s suggested. That means only one thing: the media they watch and listen to has been lying to them all along. And right there you can understand the power of propaganda.
It’s possible that they now throw in the towel, allow Trump his remaining 4 years under the realistic assumption that Trumpism ends with Trump, and use the time to rebuild.
To wit: Kamala Harris. She will be crushed, but her nomination will be a final sop to the identitards before her humiliation is used to bury diversity hiring (for now).
Remember when BHO said this in January 2015? From a WH transcript.
"You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be by far the best-looking attorney general in the country — Kamala Harris is here. (Applause.) It's true. Come on. (Laughter.) And she is a great friend and has just been a great supporter for many, many years."
It was utterly embarrassing and excruciating. I actually think Trump was holding back out of compassion. This is what happens when tribe loyalty is placed above logic and observable facts. Now even DNC operatives have to accept what the rest of us have known for years.
I agree. And I also agree that Trump truly felt awful at Biden’s condition, and tempered his criticism accordingly. That gave him extra points for character in my book. He could’ve mocked him to scorn, but knew that would just be abusive and his heart wouldn’t let him. You could see it in his face. He was personally disturbed by it.
I'm with you both. I couldn't bear to watch but I did listen... to the first twenty minutes.
It was apparent that Biden's incapable of performing as President at this time and that DJT was working very hard to avoid putting his foot in his mouth, choosing words with great care, rather than take advantage of the obvious condition of his opponent. Given how Biden's DOJ has pursued Trump since 2021 I have to give Trump credit for maintaining some humanity after such egregious treatment.
Trump would have scored a coup de grace if in response to Biden’s blathering about “retribution” Trump had only said “You don’t need to worry Joe, the DOJ has already determined that you are incompetent to stand trial”.
As bad a state as Biden is in, even if he resigned or was removed, would Harris be any better? In dissident circles it's long been speculated she was chosen as "insurance" precisely because she's viewed, possibly correctly, as an incompetent. We all know that it’s really powers behind the throne that make the decisions, but in normal times the regime at least tries to present a veneer of capable leadership.
We live in unprecedented times in America, at least in my (long) lifetime. I’ve no idea what’s going to happen. Pessimist that I am, I think these are just a few of many symptoms of a once-great empire in terminal decline.
I suspect those really in control would control her exactly as they control Biden. They would orchestrate everything, she would read the teleprompter occasionally in a speech, and otherwise grace the country with her hyena like laugh and stupidity.
I'll be surprised if he steps down, either as nominal president or candidate. The people closest to him desperately need him to keep going. The knives will be out for them if he's no longer a figurehead. They'd have to be bought off and they're an awful lot of them, with a lot to fear. Absent that, they'll keep urging him to stay the course.
The real albatross is Kamala imo...not Biden. If they had a plausible backup they would've already dumped Biden in the bin.
If the Dems bump Kamala they have to run a black woman. The radical base will go nuts if they allow another white guy to be their candidate. That might leave the door open for Michelle Obama in my opinion
I think this can be solved if they use the 25th amendment, Kamala is “President” (the first “black” female President) for 3-4 months, then steps aside as the DNC chooses Newsom and Susan Rice as the next heir apparent. But I do think this didn’t go to plan because Obama asked Joe to step down for the second term, he didn’t count on a family of grifters trying to stay in. Now maybe Newsom won’t be too keen on taking this shot.
Biden is now going downhill very fast. For the last few months the rapid decline has been palpable to those who have been observing outside the mainstream media, who have worked overtime to hide the truth about his condition.
If the press continues to turn on him, his inner circle will break; usually the deal is to support the replacement team in return for protection and a golden exit. This was the deal that used as Putin replaced Yeltsin, btw. Otherwise the current Biden mandarins are faced with a Trump Attorney General and FBI, prospects that might impact their personal status…
Will they use the 25th Amendment to install Acting President Harris? Will they make her the next candidate? We know that Dr. Jill will only relinquish the White House keys with her cold dead hands.
i too wonder about the plausibility of a 25th amendment intervention. i guess it’s unlikely unless biden refuses to back out and the entire party turns on him. he still has some supporters as of right now.
I think they will only invoke it if he starts not doing what he is told. His obvious dementia and mental decline are no real obstacles to those in power, as long as they can move his puppet strings.
Exercising the 25th would require almost all of his appointed cabinet to turn on him, would hand the Democrats the poison chalice of Kamala as President, he still wouldn't technically stop Biden being the candidate.
half of his cabinet has to go against him, and then if he objects like 2/3 of the house and senate have to agree to get rid of him, no? i don't quite remember. it seems like it would be easier to impeach and remove than do this.
The exact words from Amendment XXV, Section 4 are: " Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."
Thereafter, if Biden disagrees, he can transmit his own written document to the Senate president and Speaker of the House that "no inability exists," and resume his powers and duties. Then the VP has to make a decision to fight back within four days of the President's resumption of power. If the VP decides to fight, she and the same majority as before can submit another written declaration that Biden is unable to discharge his powers and duties of office, whereupon Congress must assemble within 48 hours and has 21 days to decide the issue, which requires a two-thirds vote of both the House and Senate that the Biden is unable to discharge his powers and duties. If Congress sides with the VP, she becomes acting President. With the ensuing vacancy of the VP's office, Harris would, as Acting President, nominate a replacement which would only require a confirmation of a simple majority vote of both the House and Senate.
Basically, the anti-Biden faction will offer Jill Biden a better deal for leaving and maintaining Democrat power than staying and risking Republican power. Plus, they can allow R efforts at trails in the Senate, and DoJ to investigate the family, etc; basically damage Joe Biden to the extent that Jill realizes she loses the Presidency either way. They have another two months to execute this strategy. The fact that CNN, Politico, Axios, and the NYTimes all say ‘replace’ means that powerful intra-Democratic factions have already decided on this course of action…
They will try, but those who are already entrenched in the Biden campaign are a force with which to be reckoned. Doing a replacement maneuver is an existential threat, professionally, to them.
Yes sadly I fear the group around Biden may prefer him to continue as the candidate and lose, than for him to be replaced and they lose their power base immediately.
In a sane society the collective realization that we have had a clearly senile person in charge of our nuclear launch codes for four years would trigger a major inquiry into how this happened, who enabled it, and why nothing was done about it sooner. And preferably, some public executions as a warning to not let it happen again.
The only thing that matters in this election is whether the Democrats can, prior to election night, guess (using polling and analytics) the delta between "expected" poll results vs how many votes they need to find in 7-10 precincts, in 5-7 states, in order to win.
If they determine they can't close the gap, without being obvious, they'll deploy political violence.
It really is that simple.
I figure that with the internet connected voting machines, they can rig anything. And since it's illegal to question elections now---
The question is....will Americans again obediently accept that the election was "not" rigged this time? It's laughable to think that Trump will get an enormous number of votes nationally, yet will the majority believe that Biden eked by him with a relatively small number of votes to miraculously win again? It's just not credible. The idea that this dementia addled man could get elected is beyond belief. A great many of those who would vote Democrat even if the candidate "were a lectern" as Trump just said, may not vote for Biden. They may vote for an alternate 3rd party candidates, or they may not vote at all. It will all be interesting to watch.
agree totally
There's always cheating...
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Let My People Go
https://rumble.com/v4h66w3-official-let-my-people-go-full-length-documentary.html
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/bill-barr-lied-foia-requests-reveal-no-doj-investigations-election-fraud-2020-election-bill-barr-claimed-video/
Barr previously served under the Bush administration as Assistant Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, and Attorney General.
“I started off in Washington at the Central Intelligence Agency and went to law school at night while I was working at CIA,” William Barr said during an oral history event in 2001.
As a former AG, Barr got to work helping aid the cover-up of INSLAW, just as he did for the CIA protecting the agency from Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) and BNL investigations, the Church Committee as a part of the CIA’s Office of Legislative Council (OLC) from 1973 to 1977, and ongoing scandals today walking through a revolving door.
Barr appointed a former Justice Department crony Nicholas Bua to conduct an “investigation” of the INSLAW matter, and then report back to him. The special counsel would be selected by Barr; would be subservient to him; and would report to him. Barr could then ignore the recommendations if, in the remote possibility the special counsel did not cooperate in the expected cover-up . . .
https://themillenniumreport.com/2019/10/the-octopus-inslaw-promis-software-scandal-and-those-killed-by-its-tentacles/
Why I can no longer be comfortable voting for DJT. I know big Trump defenders constantly blame his advisors, but he should’ve known this guy was dirty. And if he has advisors who are not serving him well, then that’s on him.
I've watched Trump for 45 yrs because I knew he would be president one day. He's not an idiot, he's very astute about people and he works in very unusual, often unfathomable ways - that in the end always work. He appointed the criminals to office for 2 reasons:
1) to show the public how crooked they are. This needed to be done to wake the public up.
2) to entrap them in their crimes so he could prosecute them.
We can't take things at face value at this point. There is so much going on behind the scenes that we have NO idea about. We are meant to do our research of everything then put the pieces together. Trump isn't stupid enough to get sucked in by these criminals and not know they are crooks.
wow
hahaha
Who was AG for 9-11 attack by an international and inside team of people high enough up the food chain to control response to the disasters????? Well, it was Bill Barr, the CIA operative, night-school lawyer, and now appointed to the highest legal office?? That's strange. Why was he appointed by Trump? Was he keeping his enemies closer like he did with Mike Pompeo, CoS. Were they lured into treason?
It wasn't Bill Barr, it was John Ashcroft. Bill Barr was A.G. 1991 to 1993. Nor did Trump "lure" anyone into treason. They had already committed treason, he was simply giving them a chance to be shown to the public as to who and what they really were - America hating, treasonous liars, thieves and many of them pedophiles. The public needed to be shown the truth about them before arresting them.
Don't forget:
http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/about/
This one isn't available anymore on YT. Is it on Rumble or ? I don't have the name to search for it.
https://youtu.be/Fob-AGgZn4Cheating...
Please try this:
Watch this:
https://youtu.be/Fob-AGgZn44
Bullseye. You nailed it, as per usual.
I begin to think that all Dem efforts to keep Kennedy out of view might have the (unanticipated?) secondary effect of keeping him alive - at least long enough to stir more citizens into awareness that no one's coming and we've got to rescue ourselves.
If America has a shortage of candidates ,let Frauzi run .He always tells the truth ,winning every discussion ,because he does it through science .
At this juncture, the Dems' teeth just got a lot sharper vis-a-vis RFK, Jr. With such a crappy debate performance, moderate dem voters, especially women, will be incentivized to vote for RFK, Jr. in November, so as to avoid voting for Trump or Biden. Prior to last night, it was debatable how many votes RFK, Jr. was siphoning off from Biden vs. Trump. Now things have changed. He clearly will siphon off more votes from Biden. He's the perfect vote splitting spoiler now. The Dems will be out to totally destroy him, while the Republicans, who normally would do that job, will back off. RFK, Jr.'s presence in this race is also another good reason why replacing Biden as the Dem nominee is a non-starter.
RFK Jr. is just warming up. Next phase of his campaign is a concentrated confrontation with legacy media/MSM/NPR. It will be directed by his campaign but carried out by his supporters. They will be inundating local network affiliates and NPR stations as well as local newspapers with phone calls demanding that they explain why they are ignoring him. Stay tuned.
I hope you're right, but I don't see NPR cooperating. They're in the tank for the DNC.
Unless they replace him with RFK himself
Anything is possible, but just a bit ago Vanity Fair came out with a hit piece on RFK, Jr. about an alleged sexual assault claim in his past. They'll destroy him rather than look to him as a savior, which is foolish in my opinion.
oooh, that is a very good point.
Heavy sigh
Amirite tho?
The violence will be seen as understandable protest by the downtrodden standing up for democracy.
Exactly
IF the Democrats can summon Violence, THEN we’ll see it long before November.
Agree. They're waiting to draw us offside.
If they can't in the next 6 weeks....expect widespread violence.
It's waaaaay too big to rig. Yes, there could be an assassination. But they won't be able to steal another election with fraud. 5-7 states won't be enough now. You can throw in Virginia, New Hampshire, and Minnesota on top of those other 6 states.
No, there’s no offsides Ryan.
Draw us into what?
There’s no Onside either…
And THEY aren’t there..
and neither are We…
There’s Decades You Sense The Abyss then Evenings The Abyss Stares At You.
No Sides Ryan.
No we, no they…
This is the Internet it’s not real
we're on the same team, right?
that's what matters to me
There’s no Teams.
No sides.
Lol.
This is going.
The sides are whoever fights twice or more, until then we know nothing.
THEY are running, WE are a bunch of Dogs who just caught a Car out of gas… rusted out with 4 flats on jagged rims…
We don’t have a team Ryan.
They had a team and they’re fleeing for their lives.
whaaaa?
Really interesting comment. This touches on a sense I have that fundamentally everything we are seeing is scripted, and the players are constructs. “China” “Russia” “Covid” “Biden” “Trump” are at some level “UNREAL” in the sense that they are “entities” that are in large part plastic media phenomena—shells that are rapidly being moved around in front of us for us to get drawn in to trying to guess which one the pea of the day is hidden under. Meanwhile, the actual controllers of the Truman Show are NOT nervous—to the degree that they continue to believe that they are in a position so insulated that at any point in the game they could dump our entire “aquarium” (economy-civilization) down the sink and start over. Were they biting their nails when they took down Khadaffi or Saddam? I don’t think so. Control of the money power gives the ability to raise an army to do what you want done anytime. You just find some ambitious psychopaths and fund and protect them while they build what you want built. I heard that J.P.Morgan once boasted he could hire half the middle class to kill the other half. Saddam had a big army and palaces etc. but when they turned on him they found the dogs they needed and ran him down in the desert. The money power is very great and very reliably effective UNTIL it comes up against the Divine, by which I mean whatever it is that is the Source of Love and Humor. Love and Humor transcend the levers of the money power, Fear and Greed. They are of a higher order value that the money power simply can’t ultimately touch. They can be killed but they keep welling back up, so “Team Evil” cannot subtract it from the world and forget about it like they are trying to do.
I recently Heard the interview of Bukele by Tucker Carlson and I was struck by Bukele’s statement that when they decided to go after the gangs in El Salvador, they only lost 8 men rounding up the 30-40,000 gang members they incarcerated. I would have thought they might have lost thousands. Why didn’t they? That would be an interesting study. The gangs were relying on sheer terror, killing people at random to try to dominate the situation. I think there must have been a profound spiritual dimension to this contest. Ordinary humans who have not “sold their souls” want to enjoy ordinary love and humor, and you can’t do that if you are willing to commit murder so you can join a gang and share in the “rewards.” As such you lack soul force and you will lose the combat against men whose souls are intact once those men understand what is at stake. Because they are capable of self sacrifice, which is anathema to the Satanists, who try to sacrifice everyone but themselves, and forfeit the ability to participate in the Realm of Love and Humor to do so, thus consigning themselves to “Hell.” I think it is that simple, ultimately. So I can understand that perhaps now THEY are running as they are becoming exposed to the men who still have souls who understand what has been happening and recognize the need to identify, find, and deal with them up close and personally.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
That’s it in a nutshell. Precisely.
Well, last time they did it DURING election voting which is why counting suddenly stopped at the same time in multiple precincts. The weighting had to be recalibrated. Then the western states (think Arizona) had to be called early to suppress voting there.
Exactly. So obvious that it's mockery
81 million votes my A___.
Pennsylvania cheated.
Yeah, I travel a lot through PA and I always wonder where they found all the Biden voters...Philly I guess.
Behind a piece of glass covered in paper so you couldn’t watch. That’s how. Lol
I read this as "Biden is piece of glass covered in paper..." and pondered the metaphorical meaning of the imagery that this conjured for a moment...
And someone just ripped off the paper
They found them in the cities - Philly, Pittsburgh, Erie, Harrisburg.
The rest of the state is normal.
They found them in Motor/Voter laws. And that’s where they will find them again. Illegals with driver’s licenses converted to state licenses. They won’t actually vote, but their identities will.
North Philly precincts routinely have Democrat votes totaling 130% of the total number of registered voters. Been that way for decades. Nobody seems to notice, let alone do anything about it.
2 free movies about US elections (selections)
"State of Denial" tells the behind-the-scene story about state of elections in Maricopa Co. AZ.
State of Denial
https://state-of-denial.com
Let My People Go
https://rumble.com/v4h66w3-official-let-my-people-go-full-length-documentary.html
Critical exposé
https://frankspeech.com/video/proof-32tb-pcaps-and-dennis-montgomery-are-real?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2_q2MZIxY9-ZAKtNn8Sg1jZZHN-iXqCcUYsHYdEfdlTrz0IsI-ohxxIzk_aem_MFI3zxu-kQHIzl1tYq96Pg
James Clapper at eleven minutes 25 seconds
The US constitution has provisions for removing a president if he or she is unfit to serve. The left-liberal media was all over that when Trump was president but mysteriously forgot about the issue as of 2020.
I remember taking a class with a constitutional law professor who was ranting about the need to invoke Section 4 (or whatever Section it is) on Trump. I'm going to bet he doesn't say a peep about that Section these days.
25th amendment
LMAO that’s for Republicans…
:)))
In a sane society...
Our society worships black criminals as saints, embraces mass street celebrations by sodomites, and tells us with a straight face that men are women and vice versa. We have a people problem.
We are celebrating mental illness.
Though these people are a (thankfully)small minority with a large megaphone.
Small minorities get the job done, and always have. The rest of us post grumbling messages on Substack or X, hate read articles, drink beer and watch sportsball, and shrug our shoulders. In other words, we the people are lazy and shiftless.
True until recently. I believe the veil has been lifted on the cesspool that the Dems have created by letting the minority far-left serve as spokesmen for and otherwise run their party. I think the days of begrudging acceptance on our side have come to an end, after years of heaping bullshit upon bullshit.
Hope you are right. It'd be the first time "the people" ever did anything on their own in the entire history of mankind.
Not quite. My dad used to say: people with full stomachs don't start revolutions. In the western countries, the majority have full stomachs, so 'lazy and shiftless' is really 'too much still to lose'. Probably won't be that way for long.
Sorry. You're mistaken. Every single revolution that has ever taken place was started and led (operative word) by a handful of men. The masses follow.
The Pentagon is woke and weak.
They are not a small minority.
There's an inner core of true believers enabled by a broad outer core of nice, smiling ladies of both sexes working in nonprofits or universities with kids at the "better" public schools and private schools. Without the latter, the former would be impotent—all dressed up with nowhere to go.
EXACTLY THIS!👆🏻
Luckily not all of the higher-level military commanders are on-board with the Mark Milley agenda. And just about zero of the enlisted men/women and NCO’s.
So, still a minority, even within the walls of the Pentagon.
When murderous SecDef Austin forced troops to take the covid DeathVax or be punished for refusal, how many senior officers pushed back?
None.
I would have thought that the Commandant of the Marine Corps would have said, "no fucking way are you injecting my Marines with an experimental mRNA gene therapy full of spike proteins, lipid nanonparticles, polyethylene glycol, and other toxins."
He said nothing.
Coward.
The enlisted men and women are the only ones who have any sense.
And they are the first ones who die on some shithole battlefield.
Generals and admirals are safe hiding...they never get blown to bits.
Agreed. And they have been busy behind the scenes. They have formed the white hats military and are busy arresting criminals, have been for at least 2 yrs, probably 3. I saw a post when Trump was still in office, asking for military vets to re-enlist no matter what age. Trump put us under martial law Jan. 6 when there was an insurrection of the criminals in Congress, led by Nancy Pelosi. When there is civil uprising, martial law can be initiated. Biden is an illegitimate president, as Trump abolished U.S.A., Inc. (we were incorporated and became a corporation in 1871). Biden isn't president but Trump is still commander-in-chief of military, backed by over 200 generals. It was the white hats in military who invited Trump to run for president. They did this in April 2015. If you doubt any of this, do some research, info is all out there. I've researched eep state for 27 yrs every single day and have gathered lots of info. Here is one place to start:
thedocuments.info
also look up Law of War manual 11.3
it's online and is what military uses as guidelines during war; we are at war with deep state who took over our govt.
They are also corrupt as it gets.
A thousand motivated and mobilised persons working as a unit can easily defeat a million disorganised individuals, and always do.
We have a good vs. evil problem.
I'd like this, but I can't for some reason
"In a sane society..." In a sane, moral, and lawful society...
well--obviously he's not in control on anything-- and they all know it. SO that's why they're not worried. So who IS in charge and why don't we get to vote for the actual President anymore?
Well, Jeff Zients et al, Chief of Staff, and "Dr." Biden's personal advisor Anthony "what's your dick size" Bernal, most likely.
It's Zeints.
LOLOLOL
Because they think we're peasants
I'll tell you how it happened. Powerful people put in place a partially senile Biden because he was easy to control. He stayed in place because every American knows Kamala Harris could be worse. Nobody us willing to impeach Joe because they would get Kamala.
Only for conservatives! Liberals, as usual, get a pass!
The debate was a set up. For Biden to be publicly dismissed.
I'll make you a friendly waiver of $1 that he remains the candidate until the end.
Boom
Unfortunately this is all a great ritualistic show and until we start to see it from that perspective, it will never make sense: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-we-need-to-stop-voting-in-presidential
Well, Jim Clyburn did it. I hope he's got heartburn for the ages now.
Lmao!
> In a sane society the collective realization that we have had a clearly senile person in charge of our nuclear launch codes
Not trying to pick on you just using this as an opportunity to soapbox more.
How can anyone actually seriously believe that the president is in charge of the nuclear launch codes? That's insane.
Just about literally every security system that has ever been rolled out has, at some level, an administrative override controlled by whoever set up the system. This is why, for instance, when I worked at a financial services firm I could just log in to the database, look at anyone's private financial information (SSN, credit score, bank statements, etc), and the only thing stopping me was the honour system (+ the thought that if I abused that priviliege I'd probably get fired eventually).
What does it mean, in a very literal sense, for the president to "be in charge of the nuclear launch codes"? As I understand it, it means that he has the 'nuclear football', some kind of technological device he uses to authorize the use of nuclear weapons.
Ok, but, I mean, he wasn't the president prior to 2020, so who gave him the football? Do presidents hand it down one by one like some ancient artifact?
Where does the football go when he's done with it? Does he give it back to Trump? Would any sane politician do that if he seriously believed the other guy was going to end the world with it?
Presidents aren't nuclear physicists. The nuclear football wasn't built by a president, it was built by a bunch of military engineers. They must maintain it actively, because no piece of technology can sit for 50 years and still work.
How do you know they didn't put a failsafe in it? They didn't put some kind of "oh shit the president is insane we need to stop him" backup plan inside. Every security system has a secret superadmin override in it. Only ALL of them.
Also worth reading: that time the president ordered the military to nuke North Korea and his entire cabinet just brazenly disregarded the orders and talked him out of it the next day. https://www.military.com/history/time-drunk-richard-nixon-tried-nuke-north-korea.html
Biden's obvious dementia is demoralizing and depressing but I don't for a second believe it poses a serious nuclear security risk. He has people around him who wouldn't allow that. For that matter, 100% one of the secret service guys has the job of murdering the president if it comes to that. 100%. As I've said for a long time, the presidency isn't a guy, it's a team. I don't care if their face man is insane, as long as the people telling him what to do aren't
The "Football" is a device capable of generating authorization codes. Those authorization codes would then be sent to the chain of command, which would serve to unlock further ones, eventually to the level where the two guys with codes and keys are ready to input them and turn the keys and actual arm some nuclear device.
There is no "button" that actually launches missiles or drops bombs. There is something analogous to a button that can eventually *cause* the launching of missiles and the dropping of bombs, but it's like saying that Helen of Troy had a face that launched a thousand ships. She was not literally pushing ships down the launch ramps with her face. ;)
Frankly, the worse part of the current presidency isn't that a severe dementia patient hold the position, but that it means that even more so than usual, there are completely unelected people steering the country. Not that elections are any guarantee of competence, but we're supposed to at least *notionally* have a say in things.
> The "Football" is a device capable of generating authorization codes. Those authorization codes would then be sent to the chain of command, which would serve to unlock further ones, eventually to the level where the two guys with codes and keys are ready to input them and turn the keys and actual arm some nuclear device.
Basically my point is that every single person in that chain has the ability to disobey orders.
> Frankly, the worse part of the current presidency isn't that a severe dementia patient hold the position, but that it means that even more so than usual, there are completely unelected people steering the country.
I agree with this but am so cynical that I interpret it as "it's always been like this, we can just see it now" and so I am not bothered marginally more than I was already bothered
> Basically my point is that every single person in that chain has the ability to disobey orders.
Right, absolutely. My comment was intended in support of yours, apologies if that didn't come across properly.
> I agree with this but am so cynical that I interpret it as "it's always been like this, we can just see it now" and so I am not bothered marginally more than I was already bothered
I'd say I am bothered by it *marginally* more than I was before, just because it's being done so blatantly. Though perhaps it's better if everyone can see it, than if it remains in the shadows.
Agreed. I am not bothered by the fact that they're doing it. I know they're always doing it. They're _probably_ doing it with Trump, too.
I'm bothered by the fact that they're so goddamn bad at it.
I believe this is intentional. It has deep parallels to various things throughout history. IIRC, Spandrell once blogged about this. He is a self-claimed student of Chinese history and one day, probably 15 years ago at this point, he wrote a post called 'point deer make horse'.
Apparently, "point deer make horse" is the Chinese equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes story, but it takes a rather different tack. In the west, The Emperor's New Clothes story ends with the innocence of a child showing everyone the error of their ways.
In the Chinese story, there's an emperor who has a deer in his court, and whenever he has guests, he makes a big point of pointing at the deer and saying "wow what a beautiful horse this is". And whenever anyone corrects him, they're executed on the spot.
The moral of the story in the Chinese version is twofold. First off: don't publicly contradict your superiors. But secondly, there is a connotation of 'breaking the spirit'. If the Emperor was trying to make people believe a _plausible_ lie, you could kind of make your peace with it. But this is a lie where everyone knows it's a lie, and everyone-knows-that-everyone-knows that it's a lie, and everyone knows that when you say it, you're lying. Forcing people into this situation rapidly breaks their souls, because it evokes a feeling of psychological distress of the form "I am so broken by this man that he can force me to do _anything_". It's kind of a psychological version of "stop hitting yourself" schoolyard bullying.
They do it blatantly on purpose, because the more blatant they make it without anyone like you or I standing up and _successfully_ pointing out to the public the absurdity, the more our spirits break
Ah yes. The Soviets played that game as well.
"Basically my point is that every single person in that chain has the ability to disobey orders."
In theory, but unlikely in practice. Following orders is a big deal in the military. Civilian control of the military is an even bigger deal.
Do you really, truly, seriously, believe that if the president one day said "fuck niggers, let's nuke africa", not one person in that chain of command would stop him?
I do not believe that for a second. A secret service agent would put a bullet in the president's head before allowing that
And honestly? I'd be much much much more concerned if I didn't believe this
I don't think I disagree with you in the way that you may perceive. Your over-the-top scenario would likely be responded to by people immediately resigning, rather than following such an order, so likely the same result as you describe would occur - that the order would not be able to be executed. But that is very different from disobeying an order. Where the extreme-ness of an order is not so obvious and it involves using nukes, for example in the case of us being struck first, that's when things get serioiusly difficult to disobey an order, regardless of the perceived incompetency of the Executive issuing the order.
For me, the worrisome thing is that I've come to believe that Biden has pretty much always just been a front man who reads the teleprompter words that those in power have written for him to say. Others whose names we do not know (for sure) and who were not elected and who are not accountable have been running the country all this time. That should frighten people.
Chilling to say the least, that a twenty-something White House intern with a Ukrainian flag on his profile who nobody knows, much less has voted for, may yet get us into World War 3. Should give anyone pause.
it's a deterrent so the possibility that the President is unable to use it makes the nukes pointless.
Obviously the risks of incompetent launch is negligible as you point out.
I think you need to read Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson. It details every minute from when an enemy nuclear launch is detected until the 72 minutes later when America is obliterated, having first launched all their missiles back. It's not a happy ending.
It goes into great detail about all the procedures; it is the President's decision alone to launch - he can be advised by the chiefs but it is his decision - no one else's. And the 'football' is always with him wherever he goes, carried by a military handler.
At a time when American missiles are being fired into Russian territory from Ukraine by American personnel I would suggest everybody needs to understand the process and the potential consequences... It's terrifying! "The survivors will envy the dead. "
I genuinely don't think total world nuclear war will ever happen as the rich wouldn't allow that to happen. The late Daniel Ellsberg dedicated his life to preventing nuclear war. I'm convinced that the need to prevent that outcome is what made absolutely anything and everything, no matter how heinous and evil, permissable towards that end. I also think there are numerous back up systems of control to prevent that occurring, though they want to terrify us with it. Signs went up about what to do in the event of a nuclear strike in NYC, for instance. I do think tactical suitcase nukes might be used, and these braindead incompetents wouldn't comprehend that radiation transcends borders. The crisis might be used to trick us into lockdown, too, or into duck taping up our houses and fearing our supposedly radiated neighbors or wildlife. People went crazy during Fukushima, buying out iodized salt, and the total whack Ann Coulter said radiation (via a simplified version of the theory of hormesis) was good for us. I'm sure that hasn't gone unnoticed as a nudge unit tool. In California there were plans drawn up, prelude to our cognitively impaired bureaucracies, to send the mail up the coast to the little town of Bolinas if SF got nuked. Our neighbor built a bomb shelter during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Radiation mostly terrifies ordinary people, but those that work in the nuke plants in the US were in denial over radiation and would have contests to see who could get the most rads on their measurement badges. John Hersey's Hiroshima really describes what happens, and those were tiny early bombs.
Agree generally but Sniffer in Chief has never been in control of anything including his bowels since his candidacy started. Even so, the operators of the Blunder Administration have driven us damn close to kinetic nuclear war anyway.
I think the assumption one has to make that he simply isn’t in charge at all but that he is (or rather was) a convenient (incompetent, corrupt, hence easily controllable) puppet that now has run the course of his usefulness as the election approaches. It had already become apparent in the months before that he was being slowly phased out, as the public was allowed to see more and more of his dementia (which could easily have been prevented). So the question is, who will replace him and when?
Those surprised or shocked by Biden's state must be outsourcing their cognition to digital media. Talking heads told them for months what they should believe, not what the reality was.
Exactly. Everyone who reads substacks, conservative or alternative media already knew Biden’s condition. They also knew the DNC’s next move- remove him and offer Michelle Obama as the candidate. Right on schedule, today USA Today ran an article saying just that. All of this is theater. It is absolutely scripted and planned.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/03/michelle-obama-would-beat-trump/74289680007/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2Xtqd4Mts
Barack Obama Describes his Ideal Third Term
Yes. In a sane society.
Democrat party apparatchiks now have a pretext for installing a Biden replacement with no input from voters. Which raises the question of whether this was the plan the whole time. His obvious dementia is not a recent development.
Yes, all planned for months, maybe even years. It’s all about the timing.
Years.
Agreed.
The debasement of his 'cognitive capacities' was already clear in that - basement. That anyone should be surprised by the now catatonic human scarecrow - that is the horror.
No one on their side is surprised. As has been said by others: “They’re not stupid. They just think that you’re stupid.”
Respectfully disagree. They propped him up for the state of the union address, which they claimed dispelled all the naysaying that he was losing it. They thought with the strict format that they set up with ABC that they could duplicate the result of the SoU address. So, they are very much surprised by this turn of events, as they expected him to at least be as "on task" as he was at the SoU address in the winter. If they had known that he was this dysfunctional, they would not have allowed him to debate at all, as it is political malpractice for a candidate with the natural advantage of incumbency.
i think they were worried the stims would run out under 90 minutes, so they gave him them as late as possible, but he just didnt digest them in time to wake up then later his eyes are black saucers! Which is why they refused testing.
No kidding.
I didn’t realize it but you are correct. He does look like a scarecrow 🤣🤣🤣
I’m guessing they couldn’t blast Joe and his ego and Dr. Jill out of there if they’d used dynamite, so they goaded him into this pathetic performance on the national stage so that he and those around him, who had kept insisting that Joe was the second coming of FDR, would finally be forced to see the stark reality of what is in all actuality just a nasty variety of elder abuse.
Either way, they still have an election ahead of them, for Joe, or whomever they install as his replacement (my money is on Hillary). But what will they do with Kamala?
"...would finally be forced to see the stark reality of what is in all actuality just a nasty variety of elder abuse."
But clearly Jill Biden doesn't see it that way, as she did the "oh Emperor, your clothes are just beautiful" routine in the face of the obvious carnage. Don't underestimate the ability of the Dems to remain in a state of denial.
In fact, I just now saw a headline: "President refuses to drop out of race, makes admission about widely panned debate performance" the attached video to that headline was rich indeed, with the crowd of supporters chanting to Biden at the podium "yes you can, yes you can!" The power of denial is strong no matter how farcical.
I still believe that this small kernel of fanatical, Biden-til-the-bitter-enders is a small minority whose tone deafness to the drumbeat around them makes them more of a carnival sideshow spectacle than a political threat.
Dr. Jill’s cajoling rant after the debate was clearly more tantalizing click-bait than any bearded lady could compete with 🧔♀️
The bitter-enders constitute all the campaign personnel, and virtually all of the executive branch, including all cabinet members (unless KH chooses to go for a 25th Amendment process - she won't because she's too chicken). And even if that group of people is smaller than the rest of the DNC machine, they have control of all the campaign's fundraising money accumulated to date. True, the money will now take a pause from some of the donors who were blindsided by this, and maybe that's how they get JB to step aside. Absent that, JB's not going anywhere. And his bitter-end approach matters. Because if he won't step aside voluntarily, the opposing powers that be would have to engage in a floor fight at the convention to wrestle the nomination away from Biden's hands - which I personally would love to see! But I think the opposing powers that be will also be too chicken to try this.
Nope. I believe Obama will take up the charge. Maybe Michelle as his VP
Can't happen, 2 term limit
Realistic he can't. But who knows what they are willing to do
I believe it has been planned for a long time.
'His obvious dementia is not a recent development.'
Last night Matt Taibbi told how he was covering the 2019/2020 campaign, and all the journalists knew Biden was already failing, but participated in a conspiracy of silence. The media has a lot to answer for but unfortunately there's no one to hold them to account. They're not going to do it to themselves.
Exactly. This is a planned setup.
The apparatchiks liked having a president too senile to do anything besides signing his name.
I was pondering the same
That hangs together. But I'm having trouble imagining how they came up with Gavin Newsom as a replacement. He's every bit as un-electable as Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. The only conclusion I can come to is that the Democrats, for all their careful planning and clever wordplay, really are that stupid and out-of-touch.
Some candidacies look better in theory than in practice. Remember 2007 when Rudy Giuliani was the surefire GOP Presidential nominee? He was unbeatable until people started voting.
Yes they have the pretext, but not necessarily the ability to pull it off, because there will be a huge fight with the folks who are running Biden's campaign.
That only makes sense if their secret plan was to re elect Donald Trump. This chaos so close to election will absolutely ensure his victory.
Dems are casting about for other options now but it's too late. They've lost.
Definitely planned.
This! The only question now is who.
I've been saying since 2020 that Michelle Obama will end up the Democrat nominee, and I stand by that. She ticks all the intersectional boxes, has massive support from the Ellen/View/Soccer Mum media Karens, and is power hungry enough to want it.
Democrats could also present her as a return to normalcy, much as they did with Biden in 2020, as incorrect as this is.
I wouldn't discard the chance of the Democrats dropping the mask and just nominating one of the security agency spooks who actually run the country anyway. Adam Schiff maybe?
It's either one of these or they wheel out Hillary Clinton again. Shudder.
Lay off those spicy foods man. You're having nightmares!
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Maybe, but he has an incredibly bad record as Governor of California, one which even Californian Democrats are critical of, let alone your run of the mill PA Democrats, let alone independents or those somehow still on the fence.
I know how bad he is- I used to live there. I can’t stand him. I really hope he doesn’t become the nominee
The homeless ads write themselves.
100%
That was the most ruthless political spectacle I've ever seen. What happened was effectively a hit on their own candidate in broad daylight. The way all of state-media was in lock-step makes it clear. Within seconds they were all using the same description "halting performance." A flash memo went out. This was all planned. His condition was no secret. All insiders knew it. And in a way it's brilliant. They scheduled the debate unusually early in the cycle so they could dump him. Now the Party leaders can install whoever they want as their candidate without letting a pesky detail like a democratic primary get in the way.
Joe will drop out. Surely we've seen hints there might be some leverage there darker forces would have no qualms about using to their advantage should it be necessary but they don't want to alienate older voters so it will be made to look like a solemn passing of the torch. It will also be made to look like Kamala is given the option but after much reflection with friends and family she will decide now is not the right time to be POTUS. Maybe it's Newsom. Or maybe they reach for someone who appears less radical? It doesn't really matter much. The media/DNC will go full-throttle on Trump's age with Biden out of the picture. And the contrast between him and a younger candidate will be striking.
I know conservatives are excited about this. They think the Party is panicking but I don't buy it for a second. This was always the plan. I'm more nervous for the fate of the country than I ever have been. There is a nasty group of brutal individuals running this country and they have no intention of stopping.
Worryingly plausible.
excellent comment. nail on head imo
I agree that there are significant power factions in the Deep State that want Biden replaced, and likely they angled to get this debate staged to achieve this outcome. However, if all the power factions were in harmony about this, Biden would have not run again at all. If you talk with the average lukewarm regime supporter, you see quickly that they have been told for years to have a good deal of sympathy for Biden, to see him as a "peoples champion."
If the power factions who want him replaced get their way, there is a significant hit to the legitimacy of the Presidency in both principle and as it applies to Biden and his "successor." Also, the whole legitimacy-generating show of the elections suffers further erosion after the "irregularities" of 2020.
"However, if all the power factions were in harmony about this, Biden would have not run again at all."
If they had done this by-the-book then they would've had to deal with primaries and appeasing/debating with more extreme minority factions within the Party. This was the optimal time to make a change, IMO, and incur the least amount of damage/risk for whoever the actual candidate will be. "Vote Blue No Matter Who!" well now they don't even have to worry about it.
If there was harmony among Democrat factions on the plan to replace Biden and a desire to sidestep an open primary, you'd have seen Biden booked to appear on primetime TV around this time (after primaries but before convention) not to debate Trump but to give a solemn scripted LBJ-esque speech about how his doctors just diagnosed him with such-and-such and that for the good of both his country and his family he was now turning down the nomination and withdrawing from the race.
The fact that he made a spectacle of himself and gave Trump 90 minutes of positive airtime suggests to me that things aren't exactly following a unified front's Plan A.
Under that scenario he would've faced much stronger calls to resign his current position right now. You'll notice none of the media organs are calling for that nor even discussing it. It's just about the campaign -- which is itself insane, assuming the Joe Biden we all saw actually has the ability to eg. launch a preemptive nuclear strike (which I seriously doubt.)
I know many people (including eugyppius) see this as some sort of intra-party faction battle but I don't see that at all. This Party is foremost run by the security state. Joe's inner circle have no real power. When he leaves they're all discarded. His campaign will make some noise about not giving up but they will be made to give up. Sure Obama and Clinton voiced support. What else were they going to do publicly? They want the Party to save face. You can be sure privately the message is getting delivered. At the end of the day, even Obama and the Clintons don't have any real power either that can't be instantly taken away by those that do.
The tell is always what the security state's media organs say and do. The NYT editorial board said it's time to go. Without them Joe has nothing.
There is meaningful crossover between the permanent Security State and Biden’s inner circle of advisors and cabinet appointees. That's the crux of the matter.
Who do you think organized the 2020 campaign-saving “Letter from 51 Former Intelligence Leaders” falsely denouncing the Hunter Laptop as some kind of Russian intelligence scheme (which formed part of the air cover to justify Facebook / Twitter suppressing the NYPost’s completely accurate reporting on the matter, thus throwing the election)?
Anthony Blinken. The current secretary of state. Yes - he had the entire leadership tier of the Deep State on his Speed Dial.
To me, the Clinton, Obama, Biden, etc., crime families are simply the public faces of different factions or wings within the deeper security state, and these factions compete and cooperate at different levels much like the old Mafia organizations in NY and Chicago.
Trump, Bernie Sanders, RFK Jr and others (possibly including DeSantis) are so radioactive to the security state and their mass media apparatchiks precisely because they are not on board with the role of being the public-facing puppets of the spymasters and therefore threaten that mafia's monopoly on the levers of state.
It's not strictly an R-vs-D thing in any deeply historical sense. The Bush family got 3 terms in the White House because they literally *were* the Deep State - George H.W. was CIA head-honcho before becoming veep and then President; W was always careful to keep Dick Cheney deeply involved in policy. And have you seen what Dick's daughter Liz has been like in Congress?
To close with an aside - this has also been my working theory in the Epstein case since the day he was arrested at Teterboro Airport after flying in from France. That is, his fall from grace and loss of protection was one Deep State faction executing some kind of hostile takeover of another faction by neutralizing a key asset and seizing the trove of Kompromat.
There are certainly direct connections from the security state to Biden world. How else could this absurd debate have been arranged anyway? But I'm not sure I'd classify Blinken as a true member of Biden's inner circle. Blinken is foremost a security state operator. Joe's true inner circle are guys like Mike Donilon, Ted Kaufman, and Ron Klain. As an aside, the inner circle seemingly had plans for Tom Donilon (Mike's brother) to run the CIA as evidenced by Biden planning to appoint him as director back in 2020 (when he was referred to as the front-runner for the position by CNN/Politico) but that didn't happen for whatever reason.
I completely agree this isn't R vs. D. When I say "the Party" I don't strictly mean Democrats -- although that's clearly the coopted party of the moment. The true Party is much more fluid in my estimation. (And FWIW, I'm not so sure RFK Jr. scares the security state. I don't really trust him but I'm also not sure what's going on with his candidacy. I used to think he was meant to foil DeSantis and would drop out after DeSantis did but I guess that wasn't accurate.)
I'm not convinced there was any real "kompromat" in the Epstein affair. How could whoever have seized it been sure they got everything? I think it was some sort of facade for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me. I think the Epstein blackmail mythology was the point and perhaps the general public weren't the intended primary audience.
Exactly this.
Trump is more vigorous than anyone the democrats could put up. He will eat any replacement alive, especially Newscum. It’s over.
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I agree. Allowing a man with such obvious detriments to participate in a televised debate is incredibly cruel and even criminal. But what does “criminal” even mean anymore. I am clinging to my eternal hope in Jesus.
And the Key Bridge was brought down on purpose to give Wes Moore national exposure and an easy achievement badge.
Furthermore, they are going to build a tunnel
and name it for Harriett Tubman.
Why should this have surprised anyone? It unfolded exactly as expected to anyone even casually observing Biden recently. How’s he going to be in 3 years? These people who claim they haven’t decided yet if he should be replaced are lying and/or delusional. Hence it was a planned public execution.
my impression is that they’ve gotten Biden minimally functional for press events and speeches down to this point. i expected his performance to be less than spectacular, but nowhere near this bad.
same here, I didn't think the Dems would let him show how feeble he is. Unless that w.as the plan all along
Bingo.
The looks on Biden's handlers' and party members' faces whenever he spoke the last couple years made it clear: the people around him are well aware of his mental state. Blinken on Air Force One comes to mind as a recent example.
He is the true definition of a demented Muppet.
In fact, he was significantly in better shape for his speech in North Carolina today (because it was scripted) except for talking too rapidly and slurring his words (not to mention the logical fallacies ad nauseam). It's clear that he flounders when there is unscripted questions that he may be required to answer. Contemporaneous speech is what sets him into a cognitive twilight zone.
He seemed jacked up again for the "rally" he had after the debate, somewhat in the manner of the SOTU speech but not quite as hyped up, but a very different demeanor from the debate. I wonder what they give him? But the other question was why he wasn't given that stuff for the debate. It was almost like he was stoned or something.
And at the rally, he was doing the amped-up shouting, almost angry shouting, to get the audience revv'd up against Trump. Dementia patients often are more lucid and articulate when they are in a state of high emotion, either angry or happy. My mom went through it before she died. By the end she couldn't speak at all, until one day she was mad at my father and was able to mouth the words "I'm gonna kill him!" Good question about the drugs not being effective during the debate. I just think most of the questions he was asked were about bland policy issues. No emotional excitement, no ability to articulate his thoughts clearly. So we got the dementia "doll face" with that blank stare, especially when it wasn't his turn to talk.
My thoughts exactly!
Maybe the plan is to show how ridiculous our "greatest system in the world " is. Maybe this is a mockery? Maybe they want us to be sick of it so something better, not so messy, will replace it. Rest assured they'll blame the public because we're too stupid to select our leaders.
It's always the lesser of 2 evils, why?
Trump did not best his beleaguered opponent.
In a parallel story Jake Paul, brash and controversial, boxes old washed up professional athletes. Makes a ton of money with the over the top spectacle. This feels similar to me.
It's fake, but we want it to be real.
Biden was installed , and remains, as part of the ritual humiliation of the entire nation. What better humiliation could be concocted?
By whatever it is that controls the USA, specifically the DC Sewer, with I guess tentacles extending back to NYC then abroad.
I call it The Monster. It matters not what form it takes. Not right now. But there is no question the US Government serves The Monster, NOT the US people.
He was installed to excuse evil intent and action as simple incompetence.
Look at the guy.
If he was not a tool of Empire they would have invoked the 25th years ago. They would have never let him run.
With all eyes on the flood of savages crossing the border - and somehow eligible to vote - there is a ready made excuse for whatever electoral upset caps off this abysmal year. A cover for even more blatant tampering than in 2020.
It has been clear for a while, but none of the western nations are voting their way out of this fatal terrain.
The Monster has spent generations putting us into an unwinnable position.
Or so they think.
Turns out the answer was staring us in the face the whole time.
But it won't be pretty.
Vanquishing tyrants never is.
Peace.
Agree with you mostly - but then, why let him debate Trump?
Nevermind, I see you've addressed it: ritual humiliation.
I was thinking that clearly demoralization is, if not part of the plan, then a totally acceptable outcome.
Of course, humiliation includes lowering America's status in the eyes of the world. So that is probably another goal.
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> the flood of savages crossing the border
Andreas - that's a good German name. A strong family history there, I am sure.
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According to plan? Democrats are likely pleased with his poor performance and will now be promoting his removal. Newsom is a potential replacement.
Reading between the lines, it seems there are different factions within the Democratic Party, but the anti-Biden faction has certainly profited from this.
You can imagine the power struggle that has gone on behind closed door as to who will replace him.
The potential for skullduggery when the candidate lives or dies based on a cocktail of drugs administered in secret is off the charts.
A more conspiratorial read would be that Trump will now walk to victory and support a larger Middle East war…CNN set this up; who owns CNN?
The main power bases are San Francisco, Chicago, and New York, all in competition with each other.
There's a reason this was the earliest first debate ever and one of the latest debates ever scheduled for the last one. We shouldn't kid ourselves....the D's always have a plan....and in the end they will all march together like the Red Guard.
It was just a matter of time before that waxed dummy with marbles in his mouth froze up.
The split screen format is a very small detail that could very well determine this election.
You could've turned the volume off and just watched the comparison in the presentation of their "presence". A mummy would've presented better than Biden. Very similar to the 60' debate between Nixon and JFK.
I was thinking the exact same about the Nixon-Kennedy debate. Death knell for the campaigns of both him and Joe. The cameras are not kind to Joe (thus recent claims of “deepfakes” and “cheap fakes” by White House staff and Karine Jean-Pierre).
He has a face for radio.
But clearly not the voice
You said: "There's a reason this was the earliest first debate ever and one of the latest debates ever scheduled for the last one."
I agree with that, but not in the way that you mean. I assert that the reason the Dem campaign scheduled things the way they did was in the hope of a strong performance in the first debate, such that they could cancel the second one in October. They're just that cocky. They were assuming that the way they set up the format for this debate would be similar enough to the state of the union address (where they all claim that Biden performed well and put the naysayers in their place) such that he could succeed. After all, Trump wasn't allowed to interrupt him, so, what could go wrong?
So, I assert that his handlers absolutely did not expect him to fail to this extent. They are genuninely stunned by this. From their conventional wisdom point of view, it's already too late to field new candidates for the nomination. They remember the debacle in 1968 at the convention, and they really really wanted a coronation this year in August, not a floor-fight. They know they are going to have their hands full with the pro-Palestine protesters at the convention. So this latest development makes things worse. Just getting the states to get the November ballots printed correctly is going to be a complete cluster.
The best part of this from my point of view is that the factions that will be promoting replacing Biden are going to be in for a spectacular fight against those folks who are utterly entrenched in their current position of defending him. Campaigns are about loyalty. Biden's defenders who know this, and they cannot, they will not, abide suggestions of pulling Joe Biden out of this race against his will. That is because, if they do this, they'll never be trusted to work in a future campaign ever again. Jill Biden is certainly not helping those who want to replace him, as she is his chief dementia enabler, blowing sunshine up his butt telling him what a great job he did.
For a replacement to occur, the first thing that needs to happen is for the campaign chair to resign. I don't know much of anything about Jen O'Malley Dillon, but my guess is that she perceives that she worked hard to get to this position. She was previously the deputy Chief of Staff for the White house during the past three years. So, unless a really really big donor comes forward to make her an offer she can't refuse, I am guessing that her first priority is to maintain her entrenched position, to prove her loyalty to the President, and hope for the best.
Interesting analysis; I hadn’t thought of the debate schedule in the way you described. My view has been that the June debate was planned to showcase Joe’s dementia early enough in order to prepare the base for a new candidate in time for the convention. Additionally, they were counting on low information voters not to be watching along with lots of others who are not yet following the campaign and who won’t until after Labor Day. We may never know but one thing is certain: Democrats will stoop to anything to keep their hold on power.
You're right, we may never know. But I'm betting Jen O'Malley Dillon's motivation was to get her candidate ready to "shine" in that debate - hence the 8 days of preparation, the ear piece, all the rules that favored Biden (e.g., no live audience; no ability for Trump to interrupt him, etc.). She wants a promotion to Chief of Staff or some other higher post in the next Biden administration. There is no way she was part of some group of Dems that purposely set out to have Biden fail so miserably on purpose. I believe they thought they could pull this off - hubris is one of their defining characteristics.
Most of the commenters here could have outdebated Biden going into that ordeal cold turkey.
Yup.
Cadaver in Chief!
sad but true.
as a nurse, I have seen a lot of dead people. He does look dead
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The sad part is the repubs never seem to have a counter-plan to the dems, well except for endless fundraising.
The are masters at one thing....and one thing only:
Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
If they had a spine we wouldn't be in this mess.
Democrats are ruthless and relentless. Looking back at that party’s history, they have always behaved this way.
This has always been the plan. They are waiting for the right time, before anyone has a chance to fully vet the candidate and they will full court press that campaign. This debate has one purpose: to get all of America on board with a new,late-stage candidate.
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Precisely
You are giving them way more credit than is due.
I don’t think so. They’ve known (and been selling the fact) that he is incompetent. But they needed the debate to drive it home to the masses. It’s all a set up. They need to seem sincere and justified.
They most definitely have not been selling that he is incompetent - prior to the debate debacle. They clearly are now, but notice, not enough to do the most obvious thing: the 25th Amendment maneuver. So if this was a set up, they would have KH invoke the 25th Amendment. But they're not doing that. They're publicly defending him. They need to appear loyal. I'm certain that they are desperately trying to get him to step aside, behind the scenes. But if they were bright (they're not) and they actually had planned this in advance, they would have endgamed the strategy execution in advance. But there is no execution of an endgame right now, one week after the debate debacle. Also, the Convention folks have been advertising that they are going to certify Biden's delegates to the states in the middle of this month, partly to comply with the ballot rules for the state of Ohio. So, if their edgame plan was to replace him in a floor fight at the Convention, they won't be able to do so, if he refuses to bow out. It's a cluster. You don't plan clusters of this magnitude in advance.
I have such a hard time believing they left anything up to chance re the leader of the free world. They were able to coordinate a fake pandemic world wide with media, military, corporations and every foreign government. But they’re incompetent over the presidency? I think that’s naive. Something is happening.
Alright my friend. I'll bet you $1 that JB is going to be the nominee.
Don't forget Big Mike.
There are so many "news stories" that she does not like politics and enjoys her life as is. Why put all that out there if they are going to slide her in? And what do they do with The Cackler?
Perhaps to make it seem that she was reluctantly drafted into the position; rather than a planned 3rd term for Obama…
"for the unity of the nation I have decided to put my own wellbeing and preferences aside and intend to run blah blah blah"
Agree 100% - and, yes. What about the Joker?
Exactly, methinks she doth protest too much.
That should be a t-shirt.
There is one… Big Mike, Man for the job 2024. 😂
Seeing the fiasco unfolding in France, the chance of that happening seem to dwindle by the day.
What fiasco?
Gavin Newsome is extremely unlikeable even amongst radical democrat extremists and would perform worse than Biden. Michelle Obama is the obvious replacement. And God save our world when he is installed.
You mean Mike don’t you? That would be a fatal mistake in the part of the Dems!! A part of why they are normalizing trans everything, but it will backfire!!!
I don't think so. A majority of the population has no idea what the Big Mike reference means. Only we political junkies. Besides, if they voted for Biden the sock puppet it doesn't matter who takes his place as long as there is a D after her/his name.
Not if they just steal it like last time.
yeah, "liking" the candidate is irrelevant when you rig the votes. We've got Soviet elections here now.
If they could dig up Stalin and run him, TDS would mean that the dems would vote for him.
You are correct. Why else would they schedule him for a debate this far before the convention?
it was all planned
A white man stepping over the heir apparent? Where's the DEI in that? Plus the rest of the country hates California. Hell even California hates California.
I think they have to keep Kamala on as the diversity hire. To throw her over at this point would alienate too many in their base. So the real question is: who would Kamala willingly take a backseat to? Definitely not Newsome. Possibly Killary.
"Wisconsin does not allow withdrawal from the ballot for any reason besides death.
In Nevada, no changes can be made to the ballot after 5 p.m. on the fourth Friday in June of an election year or 'a nominee dies or is adjudicated insane or mentally incompetent.'
If Biden were to withdraw less than 60 days before the election in Georgia his name will remain on the ballot but no votes will be counted."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13556445/joe-biden-legal-counter-fight-election-dropout.html
In Wisconsin, the candidates for President aren't even *put on* the ballot until September.
If Joe bows out now, he's not withdrawing from the ballot and there's really no problem.
The Daily Mail did a terrible job of reporting this, but the Heritage Foundation paper that they attempted to summarize in their article basically says that if Biden bows out before the convention, the delegates in Chicago will pick some other candidate and he'll get onto every state's ballot with little legal trouble.
How does that wash with the state delegates? Is it possible in some states the votes and delegates could become separated?
I used to think Newsom would be the one but have been reading recently that he’s becoming hugely unpopular in his own state over transgender issues where children are concerned, taxation, and other issues. He may be regarded as too far left now to be considered for national office. Right now I don’t think there is a Democrat anywhere in the country who can run and win the presidency. All are tainted.
You are correct that Joe Biden is a figurehead, but that has been the case since 2020. If you recall, Biden was floundering in the primaries until the call came for the other candidates to step aside. It was clear at that time that what the operatives behind the scenes (the Obamas specifically) wanted was a candidate with name recognition, who could perform well enough in a general election to be pulled across the finish line with strategic chicanery in a few cities. Those cities were Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix, Detroit and Milwaukee. They also wanted a candidate in office who would be pliable enough to allow them to actually run the show.
It is now clear that Biden cannot reach a level of performance in the 2024 election that will allow a repeat of the 2020 strategy. Biden himself could probably be pushed aside, but for the fact that his wife Jill really likes being first lady. My assessment is that she is the one stopping the party from replacing him. Even if they could replace him, the problem for the democrat operatives is that none of the sufficiently pliable candidates available are capable of the necessary performance in the general election either.
The only potential candidate with anything near the necessary name recognition and popularity is Hillary Clinton. But the Obamas and the Clintons hate each other. She also would try to run her own ship, which is not acceptable to the Obamas.
My view of the appropriate strategy for the democrats is to simply concede the election, and gird for a long fight in the courts. Even if Trump wins the general election, he would not have full control of the administrative state, which could simply slow walk his policies or outright refuse to implement them. They could fight a delaying action in the courts, further thwarting his policy initiatives through strategic forum selection, knowing that his next four years would be his last.
If Biden does not get replaced on the ballot, it is a sign that the Obamas have opted for my strategy. Even if he is replaced, my guess is that the deep state is preparing for this strategy.
They'll run Michele. She won't really need to do much. Just hang out on Martha's Vinyard and step out every now and again in a Presidential address to remind the nation that white supremancy is still our biggest threat. Her husband and the alphabet agencies will continue to run things as they are now.
they have to have a black woman or their base will go full-on brownshirt if they run another white guy
Yes; expect to see sonorous articles in the FT from the likes of Edward Luce about why eternal litigaton by the Ds over the result of the election was not "election denial" which could be summed up as "it's different when we do it".
Well, he is right in a way. They are not denying the result of the election, they are just trying to thwart it.
You give Obama way too much credit. Remember how he suddenly appeared as a DNC nominee, as a messiah out of nowhere? He himself is a puppet. He does not run shit.
So, who does? And don't tell me it's the Jews.
There's a lot of discouraging plausibility there.
i think you really on to something. well thought out
Brilliant!
That this doddering old man is the president of the US is equally fascinating and troubling. Who will they choose to replace him?
Why - Vice President Harris, of course! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Senility replaced with cackling idiocy! What has the US come to?
DEI
lolol....so true. Cadaver in Chief or a Hyena clucking a cackle over putrid carcass guts.
Well...at least there's Newsollini in the wings....
The US has come to its end. Happens to every empire after 250 or so years.
I fear Michele Obama. She solves all their problems, especially the increasing loss of the minority vote. She will win in a landslide and only afterward with the nation wake up to the fact that they have continued the disasterous policies of the Biden admin for another four years. We all know the Obamas have been running the show anyway.
in that case we're fucked for good
for the love of god there is ZERO chance Michelle Obama wants to be prez. Imagine her life for a moment: she wakes up every day in one of her mansions or in the mansion of a friend, has a full staff of servants, heads to a private plane for either a jaunt to a private island or maybe to some event to get her ass kissed, lives better than Louis XIV and has to answer to no one—and she's gonna trade this to negotiate a budget with some greasy reptiles in DC? Being prez would be a downgrade for her! She aint that stupid.
Yes, but she can continue what she's doing and hubby can finish off the country. The MSM will cover for her.
Thank you. Also she's proven to be remarkably thin skinned.
criticism stings that much more when you're used to adulation
She keeps maintaining she has no interest in politics. But that makes her the candidate best suited for the position since others, just as with Biden, are running the show.
Likely Gavin Newsom
J.B.Pritzker. very liberal, and he has a ton of money.
Please God no. This guy is a legit communist dictator wanna be of the first order.
Illinois is a complete and total $hit hole under his “leadership”.
His family is funding most of the tranny crap going on in the country.
This guy could finish off the American experiment.
And that evil Jennifer, who was a man in the military and now wears dresses if I remember right. Pritzgers put Obama into power, one sits on the Harvard board and they are raking it in in SoCal from trans surgeries and human experimentation. I put them up there with the Sacklers for transmigrating geckos from beyond Antares. But the Walmart family is building Utopia, Telosa, in Arizona, so they come into it too. Apparently Bezos, whom they should've left in space, is building some kind of a bugout bunker in the hills of Mexico just south of the border. I'd say "eat the rich," but that would be like drinking kale smoothies for eternity.
I hope not, he is worse than Newsom
they'll trot him out just to make Newsollini look better.
JB's sister is a Tibetan Buddhist Lama. Grave forces propels his destiny!
I don't like either candidate and won't be casting my vote for the debatees, but I can tell you that this was not a great showing by either side. No one really answered the questions asked, especially Trump, as they were worried about making sure to respond to one another's boasts or criticism. They're both old men that don't deserve to be in the race but the facts are what they are likely to be in November - both will be on the ballot and will be the major choices. Bobby Kennedy seems more rational and relatable but there are issues there, as well. What a mess...
The DNC had the opportunity to allow an honest primary, which would have accelerated the revelation of Biden as a dementia patient. Bobby Kennedy would have been exactly the refresh the democrats needed to remain relevant. RFK would have likely won the general election against Trump without the usual election shenanigans that have become the new normal. But the DNC moved heaven and earth to prevent that situation, and look where they are now. Whatever one thinks of Kennedy, he is obviously anathema to the establishment, and that speaks volumes about what the power brokers have as their agenda.
A rational man does not support abortion at full term. His very own words...no limits .
Nope, he has a few videos on youtube about his position. No full term, no late term, and, unlike the anti-woman prolife people, he said he'd discovered that many women have abortions who want to keep their babies but can't afford it, so support for women to have the babies they want to have. You may not agree with early term, but progressives really are fine with very late term, and he's not like that.
That is a revised opinion then. Watch the Sage Steele interview. He says it. She gives him a chance to clarify and he says again no limits. His veep was interviewed and said she was surprised and didn't realize that was his position.
Only a novice and a fool answers the moderator’s questions as asked.
You silly man.
Hey, it's my opinion.
Also basically mine.
Where I maybe disagree with you is that I do think Bobby is a lot better (even if I don't agree with all his policies). I'm still hoping as the train wreck that was on that stage becomes more apparent, more Americans start to consider him as an alternative.
Problem is Kennedy is still a democrat in most ways!
Certainly a lot of moderate Dems will.
It’s a stupid opinion that works against your interests in service of your short-sighted pride.
What say you now?
Same as before. If you don’t vote for Trump, you don’t love your nation and you don’t want current economic, geopolitical, or cultural conditions to improve.
Good, pithy summary of that surreal event. It's striking to see Biden's incoherent babblings transcribed in print.
I think I win the trophy for writing the most "Biden-has-dementia" stories (7). In every one of these stories, I point out the real scandal - e.g. Everyone who matters in America has KNOWN THIS for years. They've just covered it up and lied about it. If our trusted leaders and press can lie about a subject this important, they'd probably lie about anything and everything that was important to the public ... and have.
... Now we see why the release of those audio tapes would be seismic. Why is the "Justice" Department working so hard to cover up Biden's dementia?
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/all-this-stuff-ties-into-together
It's like reading a story about a rich and powerful family, the fatherhead of which has gone senile, yet no-one dares challenge him for fear of the will being changed.
So everyone just smiles and nods and waits for him to pass, tongues tensing behind rictus grins, bodies ready to pounce to grab what they can once the patriarch croaks.
And then the doors of the mansion are kicked in by the rambunctious enfant terrible-relative ignored by the more staid members of the clan.
"Is it Biden's White House, or is it Dallas*?" so to speak.
*The TV-series, it was yuge over here in the 1980s.
You make me think of a book called From Beirut to Jerusalem by Thomas Friedman, in which he describes being in the back seat of a car trying to make it through an Islamist checkpoint, and the keffiyahed official pokes his AK47 through the half open window, pointing it at his heart, and says "Who shot JR?"
It was patently obvious he was demented before the election. Are people truly just seeing it now? Really??
it was obvious to us. establishment media has been playing this down relentlessly. suddenly the dam has broken, and even German press are talking about this.
Which should make us all a bit suspicious…
German Press? Will we be able to extradite these menaces to democracy under the liberal German free speech pogroms, oops! Typo. programs.
It has always been thus. Mass-media will soon tell us how they have always talked about Biden's dementia ever since 2020.
Such is journalism: truth and reality is what they report.
Exactly. 1984-style rewriting of history.
"Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible."
Normies can't see anything until the media tells them they're allowed to see it.
That might be happening now, but we'll have to wait and see. Sometimes the politically obsessed go off-script for a bit and then regroup and return to the status quo. Normies never notice the deviation because they aren't watching that closely. If the narrative on Biden next week is the same as last week's, that he's strong and in charge, last night will go down the memory hole for normies.
Nailed it! Yes, for them, it’s not real unless they see it on TV.
I was wondering the same thing since all conservatives have known about his dementia for years now. But when I talk to liberals, they ferociously deny that Biden is unfit cognitively. They get angry when it’s suggested. That means only one thing: the media they watch and listen to has been lying to them all along. And right there you can understand the power of propaganda.
Shows the power of having a pliant press as your ally.
It’s possible that they now throw in the towel, allow Trump his remaining 4 years under the realistic assumption that Trumpism ends with Trump, and use the time to rebuild.
To wit: Kamala Harris. She will be crushed, but her nomination will be a final sop to the identitards before her humiliation is used to bury diversity hiring (for now).
Remember when BHO said this in January 2015? From a WH transcript.
"You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be by far the best-looking attorney general in the country — Kamala Harris is here. (Applause.) It's true. Come on. (Laughter.) And she is a great friend and has just been a great supporter for many, many years."
It was utterly embarrassing and excruciating. I actually think Trump was holding back out of compassion. This is what happens when tribe loyalty is placed above logic and observable facts. Now even DNC operatives have to accept what the rest of us have known for years.
I agree. And I also agree that Trump truly felt awful at Biden’s condition, and tempered his criticism accordingly. That gave him extra points for character in my book. He could’ve mocked him to scorn, but knew that would just be abusive and his heart wouldn’t let him. You could see it in his face. He was personally disturbed by it.
I'm with you both. I couldn't bear to watch but I did listen... to the first twenty minutes.
It was apparent that Biden's incapable of performing as President at this time and that DJT was working very hard to avoid putting his foot in his mouth, choosing words with great care, rather than take advantage of the obvious condition of his opponent. Given how Biden's DOJ has pursued Trump since 2021 I have to give Trump credit for maintaining some humanity after such egregious treatment.
“Yooge” credit is due. Agreed.
Trump would have scored a coup de grace if in response to Biden’s blathering about “retribution” Trump had only said “You don’t need to worry Joe, the DOJ has already determined that you are incompetent to stand trial”.
Yes the Robert Hur comment
Orchestrated train wreck
like
As bad a state as Biden is in, even if he resigned or was removed, would Harris be any better? In dissident circles it's long been speculated she was chosen as "insurance" precisely because she's viewed, possibly correctly, as an incompetent. We all know that it’s really powers behind the throne that make the decisions, but in normal times the regime at least tries to present a veneer of capable leadership.
We live in unprecedented times in America, at least in my (long) lifetime. I’ve no idea what’s going to happen. Pessimist that I am, I think these are just a few of many symptoms of a once-great empire in terminal decline.
I suspect those really in control would control her exactly as they control Biden. They would orchestrate everything, she would read the teleprompter occasionally in a speech, and otherwise grace the country with her hyena like laugh and stupidity.
LGBT is the most glaring sign.
I'll be surprised if he steps down, either as nominal president or candidate. The people closest to him desperately need him to keep going. The knives will be out for them if he's no longer a figurehead. They'd have to be bought off and they're an awful lot of them, with a lot to fear. Absent that, they'll keep urging him to stay the course.
I agree he probably still has better-than-even odds of remaining the nominee.
The real albatross is Kamala imo...not Biden. If they had a plausible backup they would've already dumped Biden in the bin.
If the Dems bump Kamala they have to run a black woman. The radical base will go nuts if they allow another white guy to be their candidate. That might leave the door open for Michelle Obama in my opinion
Good point - Michelle Obama as top name, with Newsome as her second. Would play well, no? A white man deferring in public to a white woman.
The radical phalanx would eat it all up with a big ladle and ask for seconds, and any cricism can be called racism.
Obviously, is should read "black" woman in the third sentence, not "white".
I understand your point, but your third sentence appears to be a bidenism that needs to be corrected.
Guh! Black woman. Correcting.
Thanks for spotting.
It's funny how the brain works. I didn't even register your bugaboo
Short answer is yes
They'll promise Kamala a seat on SCOTUS. She'll happily step aside for Mike
I guess I should know this somehow, but who is Mike?
I believe Mike = Michelle Obama
it's what gross hateful people call Michelle Obama—get it, she's a man! very clever
Plausible. Good point
I think this can be solved if they use the 25th amendment, Kamala is “President” (the first “black” female President) for 3-4 months, then steps aside as the DNC chooses Newsom and Susan Rice as the next heir apparent. But I do think this didn’t go to plan because Obama asked Joe to step down for the second term, he didn’t count on a family of grifters trying to stay in. Now maybe Newsom won’t be too keen on taking this shot.
It will be: Hillary/Big Mike
Don't those two families hate each other?
That doesn't mean they can't work together for a while to get more power.
Once they rule, they can always cut each other throats.
But I don't think they would win the election. Hard to beat Trump now.
It won't be Hillary. There's no way that they could stomach losing to Trump twice, which is what would happen.
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He probably could hold it together for a few more months, and be jacked up now and then for an appearance.
But if his dementia progresses further, in a year or two he will be unable to speak at all.
hence, if he gets the nomination, his choice of VP will be interesting.
I would give good odds that we will not see a Biden/Harris ticket.
We will not see a Biden-anyone ticket.
Biden is now going downhill very fast. For the last few months the rapid decline has been palpable to those who have been observing outside the mainstream media, who have worked overtime to hide the truth about his condition.
How good are the odds you'll give?
If the press continues to turn on him, his inner circle will break; usually the deal is to support the replacement team in return for protection and a golden exit. This was the deal that used as Putin replaced Yeltsin, btw. Otherwise the current Biden mandarins are faced with a Trump Attorney General and FBI, prospects that might impact their personal status…
Will they use the 25th Amendment to install Acting President Harris? Will they make her the next candidate? We know that Dr. Jill will only relinquish the White House keys with her cold dead hands.
i too wonder about the plausibility of a 25th amendment intervention. i guess it’s unlikely unless biden refuses to back out and the entire party turns on him. he still has some supporters as of right now.
I think they will only invoke it if he starts not doing what he is told. His obvious dementia and mental decline are no real obstacles to those in power, as long as they can move his puppet strings.
Exercising the 25th would require almost all of his appointed cabinet to turn on him, would hand the Democrats the poison chalice of Kamala as President, he still wouldn't technically stop Biden being the candidate.
half of his cabinet has to go against him, and then if he objects like 2/3 of the house and senate have to agree to get rid of him, no? i don't quite remember. it seems like it would be easier to impeach and remove than do this.
The exact words from Amendment XXV, Section 4 are: " Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."
Thereafter, if Biden disagrees, he can transmit his own written document to the Senate president and Speaker of the House that "no inability exists," and resume his powers and duties. Then the VP has to make a decision to fight back within four days of the President's resumption of power. If the VP decides to fight, she and the same majority as before can submit another written declaration that Biden is unable to discharge his powers and duties of office, whereupon Congress must assemble within 48 hours and has 21 days to decide the issue, which requires a two-thirds vote of both the House and Senate that the Biden is unable to discharge his powers and duties. If Congress sides with the VP, she becomes acting President. With the ensuing vacancy of the VP's office, Harris would, as Acting President, nominate a replacement which would only require a confirmation of a simple majority vote of both the House and Senate.
Nate Silver used the phrase "shitshow at a plumbers convention" which sums it up nicely.
Perfect analogy.
Basically, the anti-Biden faction will offer Jill Biden a better deal for leaving and maintaining Democrat power than staying and risking Republican power. Plus, they can allow R efforts at trails in the Senate, and DoJ to investigate the family, etc; basically damage Joe Biden to the extent that Jill realizes she loses the Presidency either way. They have another two months to execute this strategy. The fact that CNN, Politico, Axios, and the NYTimes all say ‘replace’ means that powerful intra-Democratic factions have already decided on this course of action…
They will try, but those who are already entrenched in the Biden campaign are a force with which to be reckoned. Doing a replacement maneuver is an existential threat, professionally, to them.
No because then Kamala would become President. A fate worse than what they have now.
My guess is no, they won't. The nomenklatura defaults to extend and pretend. They'll maneuver for advantage while he declines.
Ah...c'mon James!....they'll spin this into him just having a short bout of acute looooong covid!
Everyone knows looooong covid causes brain fog!
I've already seen much more bizarre copium, LOL! They're trotting out the stutter and the broken foot.
True, that would be consistent with their customary practice.
😂😂😂
Yes sadly I fear the group around Biden may prefer him to continue as the candidate and lose, than for him to be replaced and they lose their power base immediately.
You are correct. The campaign is in full swing. Loyalty is the iron rule of campaigns.
Animatronic Biden could be just what they need.
Weekend at Bernie’s 😂
Problem is that Disney with its modern "Woke" values could only produce a transsexuall Biden in a dress or perhaps a pantsuit.
A horrible prospect for most, but the Democratic Party voters would be enthusiastic.
He was for a year or two. He's too far gone now.
😂😂
Hah!