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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Instead of assuming every public health policy in the world is ignorant I find it easier to point out that both maximum lockdowns & maximum vaccination are consistent with the hypothesis that the perpetrators want us dead.

Add that assumption & everything suddenly clicks into place: the lying, the complete disregard for our prior pandemic preparedness plans & substitution with useless & harmful “measures”, toxic vaccines & blind eyes to VAERS, to boosters, to VaxPass coercion etc

They want us dead & our economies too.

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Mike H's avatar

Thank you Dr. Yeadon. Spot on. Close examination of depopulationist/New World Order literature over the past 25 years reveals that many cite the figure of 500M for a manageable "restart" population before "building back better," which means a LOT of us have to go.

And there's a method behind the madness of lockdowns that intentionally destroyed millions of small businesses and are now resulting in massive disruptions to supply chains, including food supplies, and soon-to-be crippling inflation. We have to fight back NOW, or things will get much worse.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I think they’ll use manufactured + real shortages to introduce rationing & make presentation of an individual VaxPass mandatory to obtain the ration - IF they need to.

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Georgiaboy61's avatar

Dr. Yeadon,

Manufactured crisis - i.e., false-flag acts of terror - have been one of the most-effective tools in the hands of tyrants and those who do dirty tricks for them, for a very long time. The communists call it - as Rahm Emmanuel said, "Never let a crisis go to waste..."

The method is simple but brutally effective as a tool of mass deception: Manufacture a crisis (or take advantage of a natural one) > Provoke a response or reaction, preferrably sever-enough to make people sit up and take notice > And then the powers-that-be step in with a "solution" to the crisis which just happens to give them everything they wanted in the first place. The communists call it the Hegelian dialectic, but the black-bag guys call them false-flag attacks or psychological ops.

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Randy Bella's avatar

But since plenty of population know their game, if they try rationing, they will see themselves really quickly on the run and much, much worse. They are playing with fire.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Certainly my plan. I won’t need much from services & good shich they can regulate.

We’ve survival rations for a few weeks.

Limited energy independence is the key goal remaining.

I no longer dependent on the NHS for my repeat prescription.

With my adult daughters included, we’re 11 adults in the village who all see things the same, not a bad number! Two others ten miles away, who we’ve known for over 30 years, also red pilled.

Cheers

Mike

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Katherine's avatar

I totally concur! Where my husband and I live many people are red-pilled, and, I believe this region can feed itself; many farmers, ranchers, and orchards. However, the fight against the "force vaxxers" is ongoing, and the court just turned down our TRO against mandated "vaccines" for all health care workers, public employees, teachers, etc. Religious Exemptions are being approved, but only for a few.

Now they are heading for the public school kids. A parallel society is forming with those that aren't leaving for a Red state....

But, the real question in my mind is how to reach those who know something isn't right, but still are buying the official story. Will it be the injuries from the "vaccines," or the supply shortages, or hyper inflation, that finally wakes them up?

Or nothing will?

I do wonder.....

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Sounds like your daughters learned well from good parenting! We are red pill side of wa. State....planted ground, cattle for neighbors. One of our state troopers signed off telling Inslee what most of us thought of his blue pill crazies. 🙏 to your family.

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Richard Seager's avatar

As any prepper would tell you, make sure that you have some spare water around.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Agreed, we’re 50metres from a freshwater brook.

Presumably filters & sterilising kit required to avoid microorganisms.

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Jessica's avatar

But what about this alien/graphene thing growing in the injections.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I’m far from convinced on the graphene.

Who knows, but the analytical evidence so far is inadequate.

Aliens. Hmm.

Again, I’ve seen nothing that I thought was convincing.

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Dawn's avatar

There has been increasing talk about energy prices and shortages. I wonder if they might even try freezing people to death or is this just another tactic to make people feel helpless and bring them into submission?

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Not mutually exclusive goals...

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Randy Bella's avatar

Some may do one last thing before they freeze...like some little bit of justice.

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Dawn's avatar

It could also be the hard core press to ram their climate change agenda down our throats? You can’t afford to heat single family homes or drive those gas guzzlers anymore.

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Georgiaboy61's avatar

The globalist billionaire oligarchs believe that if they can reduce most of the world's population to penury and poverty, that the people will be submissive and more-easily dealt with. They fail to account for one thing: The most dangerous man alive is one who has nothing to lose. If it gets to that state on a large-enough basis, there will literally be no place to hide for the perpetrators of this great evil. The hungry mobs will pursue them to the very ends of the earth to see that justice is done.

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Jessica's avatar

That’s why they all bought yachts and spaceships. Just saying.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Yes, as far as I can tell Larry Page is hanging out in Fiji and the NZ government (with the wonderful Ardern /s) seems to have given him citizenship and paid to fly his injured son here (NZ) for medical care last December.

The South Island is well known as a bolthole.

Earlier, and under a different PM, Thiel was given citizenship and is now planning this;

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/126710817/billionaire-peter-thiels-wnaka-luxury-lodge-proposal-inappropriate-in-natural-landscape

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mrakhoover's avatar

Most humans on Earth are in that position already and have been for hundreds of years. There/our combined strength hasn't amounted to anything meaningful so far. Just look at the history of the Soviet Union.

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mrakhoover's avatar

I'm probably feeling a little pessimistic today.

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Georgiaboy61's avatar

Dr. Yeadon,

Thank you for having the courage to say what ought to be said. You are entirely correct. It beggars the imagination - not to mention the laws of probability - to claim that public health officials around the world are "ignorant" or incompetent on such a scale. These are people, in many cases, holding the most-advanced scientific & medical credentials it is possible to get. A few may be incompetent, and a few ignorant, but all of them? No, that explanation is not consistent with the facts.

The entire corona virus event has been engineered from the start. A manufactured crisis to supply the pretext for the transformation of the world's economy, culture and ways of life on a scale heretofore unimaginable. It's all laid out at the World Economic Forum, and at similar places the globalist oligarchs and their collaborators hang out - the U.N., Davos, World Health Organization and so forth.

This is no mere "conspiracy theory," it is now proven reality. The proof lies in the fact that in no so-called "pandemic" in human history have the powers-that-be ever behaved in such a fashion as they are now. The now-famous Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was far-worse in terms of the cost in human lives and in the strain it placed upon society, than anything which has happened in the last 18-24 months. Humans did not dismantle civilization because of the pandemic, as the oligarchs and billionaires are now doing.

It is bad-enough that the rich are getting even richer upon the backs of the ill and the dead, selling "vaccines" which don't work and are more-harmful than the illness they are supposed to fight - but the evil doesn't end there. The globalist billionaires have decided to demolish the world economy, end paper currencies, ban fossil fuels, destroy individual liberties, end the ability of humans to move freely, and much else besides.

They mean to chip us like livestock, track us like inventory in a warehouse, and lock us out of advanced civilization unless we consent to the chains they have waiting for us. A new dark age looms before us, unlike anything humanity has ever seen before - if people do not arise and reclaim their birthright as free human-beings.

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Jessica's avatar

The nwo follows the Bible. As this has already been laid out for us. Biden is being given authority for 42 months. Yes trump did win. Yes trump is aware what’s happening. He will be reseated and feign innocence. They want us all tagged like cattle. If they are successful in tagging all of us, God steps in. The nwo is Satan.

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Ian in Vancouver's avatar

WOW! Well said. But how? I am praying and talking but I don't know what else to do.

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OzRita's avatar

All my senses a d every fiber in me agree with you. If history does not record you as a hero, history too will have sold out to the murderers.

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Katherine's avatar

We need to "pull their teeth," or there will be no one left to write an honest history of this time, it appears, and, I also believe Mike Yeadon to be a hero! Blessings to you, and yours, Dr. Yeadon!

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YYR's avatar

Victors write the history books.

Marxists re-write them.

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Richard Seager's avatar

That's what a computer scientist would call a never ending loop. Needs some more code.

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Katherine's avatar

We need a solution to this madness and murder. Mass strikes? Leaving government and corporate employ? Educating the Covid Hypnotised? Boycotting all multi national companies involved in this diabolical plan, and building a parallel society? Lawsuits? Affidavits? Which strategies are likely to be most effective?

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Richard Seager's avatar

An eye for an eye? They're extremely rich and they value their assets above all else. Strikes for sure.

And an alternative to be offered, point out the absurdity of their 'environmental' 'solution' to the environmental crisis, the idiocy of using up all the remaining oil in the next 20 years, that smart cities are pie in the sky dreaming, the electric cars that will rust in the Mad Max 'utopia' that you 'accidentally' created, that their wealth relies on 8 billion people so wealth on the basis of 500 million people will get rid of 15/16 billionaires so good luck not ending up in the pile of bodies at the camp to be taken to the waste recycle plant that just happens to be further along the train line from the 'camp'.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

To be energy independent and go to current is the dumbest thing I've seen since people walking rite into USA without a covid test only to be flown to the interior.

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Jessica's avatar

I believe that they will use graphene for their energy. I believe they have all the technology to do so. They want us tagged (or dead) because they want control over all of this wonderful new technology. Similar to what they did when they discovered oil. All the rich bastards got ahead of it and lived a life of luxury for generations.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

And now want to spy (send in IRS) on everyone who spends $200. per week from their bank account and every person should be sounding the alarm about this closed door deal! Ask your bank!!

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Worker walk outs! Planned,Massive cordinated sick days. Elite will lose their minds if they dictators have to lift their own plates.

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Harry Potter's avatar

I thought the Southwest pilots got attention. Atlas Shrugged!

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LP934's avatar

I find this substack the deepest offer so far of how humans can move beyond repeated cycles of violence and vengeance

https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/a-temple-of-this-earth

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Richard Seager's avatar

Unlike that author I'm tending to viruses being just mRNA rather than viruses, which seem to be a renaming of 'germs'. That they're part of the system that deals to whatever poisons they have to deal with and that our body ejects them as part of that process (this is Terrain theory as I understand it). The very fact that viruses are not alive themselves (unlike bacteria) points me in that direction. As does the 'Spanish Flu' as a sequel to this in 1918/19 and it was Fauci himself who wrote a paper back in 2009 or so that concluded that victims of the Spanish flu died of bacteria (masks?) rather than from a viral, what's the word, overload? Medically I think we've been on the wrong path for over a century. Politically we've been on the wrong path for a few millennia, especially in the focus on male to the detriment of female.

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Katherine's avatar

Finally. THANK YOU! Here is what I know, but have the hardest time communicating to many men: 1- War, and it's compatriot, excessive levels of "winner takes all" type competition, is both insane, and in the case of competition, coded into male biology. Males must compete, strenuously, against other males, for their DNA to continue, and must "control" their "winnings" as well, to do so. Whereas women, basically do not, or to a much lower level. No woman could give birth to a child that wasn't hers for the entire evolution of our species. Her DNA is "secure," and she functions mostly through cooperation, AS DOES NATURE! Add to this the fact that our entire species has PTSD from climate change, 6000 years ago, when "war" was adopted to survive, and the insanity of war, which is a psychological disease, in my viewpoint , swept across our globe, killing peaceful, harmonious, and matriarchal societies. We still are resonating in this with our national, corporate, and societal behavior. We must move back to a balanced female/male society, based on cooperation with one another and Nature. Not "war" against anything or anyone. If back in the 1970's, we had started moving this direction, our world would be in balance now. Once women reach social, legal, educational and financial parity with men, the birth rate drops precipitously. That is, and was, the solution to almost all our problems.

There are two other issues though, that must be addressed, I believe, and are related- consolidation of power is to be avoided at all costs- it is an artifact of the "war" mentality and inherently destructive, and a society must have the ability to recognize the Dark Triad personality structure, and keeping those individuals out of key positions in government and science. Most people do not understand Sociopathy and that is like heading into Alaska for a year in the Summer, and not knowing about Winter! They have filled the top positions in our government and NGO's and are herding the human race off the cliff. There are better solutions, IMO, but not if we fail to recognize the origins of our problems......I am certain others here will have pieces of the problem, and our solutions, but this is the "piece" I see.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I doubt that I can disagree with any of it. It is also noticeable, here in Oceania anyway, how physically and intellectually unimpressive the main talking heads in favour of the vaccines are. NZ's Director-General of Health recently stated that the r0 of the local 'Delta' variant was less than 1. Yet we continue with vaccination and lockdown and he probably still doesn't realize that he accurately described an endemic (or maybe a non-demic) and not a pandemic.

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

More recently- "Don't Believe Everything You Read About Flu Deaths"

https://archive.ph/jr9oQ

"The CDC's decision to play up flu deaths dates back a decade, when it realized the public wasn't following its advice on the flu vaccine. During the 2003 flu season "the manufacturers were telling us that they weren't receiving a lot of orders for vaccine,"Dr. Glen Nowak, associate director for communications at CDC's National Immunization Program, told National Public Radio."

"According to the National Vital Statistics System in the U.S., for example, annual flu deaths in 2010 amounted to just 500 per year... Even that 500 figure for the U.S. could be too high, according to analyses in authoritative journals such as the American Journal of Public Health and the British Medical Journal."

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

That might be because flu vaccination in a population doesn’t reduce hospitalisation or death, net there’s no benefit.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Isn't covid the cold virus and there's a bunch of them? Yet to isolate the "19" takes extensive blood work? I am 0- rh and really not interested to play with my blood over the mass human test currently in play.

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Richard Seager's avatar

It's really no wonder that they've removed the 'do no harm' from the Hippocratic oath. Obviously these bastards (eugenicists) see potential in medicine for much death.

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Katherine's avatar

Well, it's no longer the Hippocratic Oath, when you change the words; it's now "Fouci's Oath!" Or who ever did the rewrite!

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GAU8A's avatar

If you live in the US, you have already purchased your shot via your tax dollars. They forecast what the virus will be, manufacture a stockpile of some injectable mix that they say will prevent infection, and give it to the unsuspecting. The rest goes to the dump. This happens every year. I know, I worked with one of the manufacturers.

You can achieve auto immune status from these shots! The medical professionals will never suspect that your condition is related to the flu shot or booster shot you received. In fact they may say something like “That’s impossible, he is just a child and doesn’t know anything”. You just go through life sick and no one knows or cares. This is what I learned from studying the world wide panic and the COVID “vaccines”, and why I am so upset about the shooting of our children.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Reading Frank Snowden's epidemiology back in January gave me some hints regarding what happened in India, Hong Kong & Naples. In all instances the authorities were prepared to kill to get valuable land. The locals were in all cases convinced that they were being targeted by needles.

And then in the last few months I've read up more on Terrain vs Germ theory and I've come down firmly in favour of the first. War has not just been fought with guns over the last 160 years or so, it's also been fought with needles, both foreign and civil. It's time for the elites to offer up their own in an evening of the ledger.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Covid is a cold virus? 19 is the strain and to isolate the "19" takes blood work. We all carry covid but do we truly carry 19? The rest of this crazy is to cover a bigger plot...Control!

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Julie Harrell's avatar

There haven't been any flu deaths for 2 years, and my Aunt Cathy just died from pneumonia. But they killed her in the hospital. Stay away from hospitals if you are at least 60. Don't go there anyway. Because they will find something wrong with you. My Aunt Cathy had lost her 45 year old daughter to something but bless her heart. She was morbidly obese. My Aunt died of a broken heart. And the hospital couldn't find her. When I spoke to her she wanted to come home and have Hospice in. Her son left her in there one more day. And when he went to pick her up. She died when he arrived. Lost his sister and his mother within two days of each other. That's 3 family members, who did not get a shot. That would have killed them quicker.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Pan demic rats

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

Interesting, I had not heard of that paper, thanks. "Based on contemporary and modern evidence, we conclude here that influenza A virus infection in conjunction with bacterial infection led to most of the deaths during the 1918–1919 pandemic." https://phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Fauci-2008-Paper-on-Spanish-Flu.pdf

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Daithi's avatar

There is an alternative theory that the Spanish flu actually originated from an experimental vaccine given to soldiers at Fort Detrick. The doctor in charge? Frederick Gates. if I can find the article again I will link it.

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

"Did a Military Experimental Vaccine in 1918 Kill 50-100 Million People Blamed as “Spanish Flu”?" https://homunizam1.wordpress.com/2018/11/19/did-a-military-experimental-vaccine-in-1918-kill-50-100-million-people-blamed-as-spanish-flu/comment-page-1/

It is an interesting theory, and a wonderful insight into the history of vaccines.

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Katherine's avatar

Another interesting theory is that every time the artificial electrical grid goes way up-- think radar in 1918, suddenly lots of people come down with a new influenza.

Read Arthur Firstenburg's book "Invisible Rainbow" for a different perspective.

It seems to hold some merit to me.

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Richard Seager's avatar

No problems.

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Katherine's avatar

Can we please vote to put you in charge? ; ))

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Richard Seager's avatar

I'm just a cog in the machine. We need to improve the machine. :)

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Machival's avatar

I had to make an account here just to comment about the above link.

from the above blog: "For all I know, Bill Gates fervently believes he is working for the good of humanity. He is convinced of his public identity as a philanthropist—a lover of humanity. His heart swells with righteous certitude. He has ready justifications for certain things he’s done that even he knows were wrong. Some things, maybe he just prefers not to think about. In short, maybe he isn’t that different from you or me. I can and do reject utterly his vision of the future; therefore I think he is a dangerous individual. But an evil one? I cannot know that. Why would I be so sure?"

Yea, this is extremely stupid and the author of said blog is what they call "concern troll". His whole needlessly long blocks of text can be dismissed as concern trolling or extreme stupidity. Only an idiot can believe the stuff that I quoted. There is plenty evidence of the fact that B.G is a murderous overlord.

Concern trolling should be brutally criticized and not tolerated. if it looks like a duck .. etc

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Florida Man's avatar

None of that will work. The disease has spread too far in this host. Like every "great" civilization before, ours has lost its way and will eventually implode. It might take 5 years, or it could take 500 years, but if history is any guide, it's a certainty.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Save the planet, **** a billionaire.

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Moonspinner's avatar

Not all are worthless scum. I'm very partial to Taki Theodoracopulos myself.

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Franky Frank's avatar

Keep on spreading truth. Look at Communism in Eastern block. Lot of similarities. People got tired of it and changes came from top down. We have pray more then before. God help us.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Pandemic simulation 201 Oct 2019

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Event 201

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Leslie Kay's avatar

Dr. Yeadon - 100% agree! Can you please help me? I'm searching everywhere for true statistics on myocarditis on males 18-35+. I'm desperately working on an exemption for my 21 yr old son in the Air National Guard. If you could send me in the right direction, I would so appreciate it!!!! God Bless You!

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I think a team working with Steve Kirsch in the US is covering this along with numerous other adverse events.

He’s prominent & smeared of course.

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Leslie Kay's avatar

Thank you Dr. Yeadon! I will check that out. Reading Dr. McCullough and Dr. Rose's paper now.

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Doubting T's avatar

L.Kay - not sure if this gets you all the way there but it should help move the needle; found this on Malone's twitter, article titled by Rose and McCullough: A Report on Myocarditis Adverse Events in the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) in Association with COVID-19 Injectable Biological Products

here: https://www.mlpol.net/images/src/EA1CF9537A892BC5795D9BBE18154242-1190907.pdf

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Leslie Kay's avatar

Doubting T - THANK YOU!!!!

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Leslie Kay's avatar

Thank you specifically for the pdf link....since it's been removed from online. SHOCKER.

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Katherine's avatar

Try Peggy Hall's work. I believe she is one of the main people helping the employees of SouthWest Airlines with their fight for religious exemptions. And today it appears the battle has shifted and the airline will allow people to work, not be placed on unpaid leave, until they get their exemptions filed, or rewritten, if necessary. A big win!!

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SaraB's avatar

I don't know if you need general help with the exemption but TheHealthyAmerican site group is very good. They have different levels of help. From what I've read, the religious exemption seems to be the strongest and you don't have to be part of an organized religion. https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/religious-exemptions . Peggy Hall has a lot of videos you can watch. Here is a sample from someone else. https://news.gab.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Vaccine-Exemption-Full-Military-PDF.pdf Good luck!

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Leslie Kay's avatar

Thank you SaraB! I have watched Peggy Hall et al and yes, she has amazing info I am also compiling. You all are amazing!

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SaraB's avatar

I just saw this interview. Maybe you've already seen it?" Dr. Simone Gold talks about the effect of the COVID 19 vaccine and lawsuits that have been filed as a result of deaths that have occurred among members of the armed forces." https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Unfortunately, and I disagree gently on only pursuing “lawfare”, a reasonable assumption is that the justice system was derailed a long time ago.

No one takes over the planet yet leaves an escape through a court decision.

It’s a waste of time.

ONLY reaching out to people can work. Any way you choose.

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Katherine's avatar

Catherine Austin Fitts told me that, " these battles are won in 2 places, the courtroom, and the court of public opinion!" So yes, we must wake people up, whenever possible, but the courts will rule on the illegality of this Covid Coup also, I do pray.

On that note, my group is working with an attorney who had filed a Temporary Restraining Order against the State of Oregon, over their "vaccine" mandates, and while it has been denied, we will either amend or appeal. Our argument is that the shots are experimental, (because the EUA is still in force, even for Comirnaty, which is unavailable; the judge is arguing that since BioNTech is identical, it is also approved,) and need some expert witness testimony to show that a) the drug trials were inadequate and possibly fraudulent, and b) no matter what FDA says, these products are still in trials, and therefore experimental, c) possibly that since they neither stop infection or transmission, calling them vaccines at all is a false statement.

Would you help us please?

Blessings to you Dr. Yeadon, hearing you speak the truth has been very inspiring to myself, and many others!

Katherine Green, CHD Oregon

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Richard Seager's avatar

Re Comirnaty, here in NZ this is what we're told is being used. But it just seems to be the same concoction (under an EUA here as well) used elsewhere.

Here's an example;

https://covid.immune.org.nz/covid-19-vaccines-nz/comirnaty-mrna-pfizerbiontech-vaccine/how-comirnaty-vaccine-works-and

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Richard Seager's avatar

Reaching out to Judges should be a part of that, this system is going to f most of them over as well. Agree that most of them are convinced right now that they're part of the system still not realizing that there are definite plans to replace them with AI (which operate, a little like them maybe, on the shit in shit out principle).

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Todd's avatar

The brilliance of the cabals plan is it is SO BIG no one can believe it to be true. My question is... are there whistleblowers who have come forth stating the cabals indoctrination or orders? Tens of thousands of people from courts to ER doc have to be in on it and know what is happening and the fact that no one has come forward to reveal details is my biggest question mark. I have leaned to the side of big pharma profit being the motive who buy off a few in the FDA and NIH that set everything in motion. If the plan is depopulation there should many who refuse to keep it under wraps.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Todd,

I thought about that immediately.

In brief I suspect very few indeed know about the depopulation aspect.

Instead they’re told a more palatable plan.

A non democratic but essential counter to global warming.

Every step to reach totalitarian control is identical.

Only the end game differs.

Hardly anyone needs to know how the culling is to be done. Just a handful in pharma.

If I’m correct, it’ll be boosters that will deliver the lethal gene sequence, sufficient to kill many, over weeks, of what looks like a disease like virus induced haemorrhages.

I’ve never wanted to be wrong more.

Cheers,

Mike

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Moonspinner's avatar

Comparmentalization has always been a "thing". Most evil paradigms are pyramids -- only the top (the true evil) know the details of the culling. Same thing happens in Freemasonry. The bamboozled lower levels think they're doing "good services for the community". They only move up the Freemason ladder to the much higher levels if they have psychopathic tendencies and wilfully demonstrate them -- it's the oligarchy's way of finding their new psychopathic puppets (the ones that are visible to the world and doing Satan's work, but being visible, they are also expendable -- can be "thrown under the bus" when their usefulness is over). The real power never shows themselves, per eminent historian Carroll Quigley.

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Cairn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

The Vaxpass has all the medical history, and soon every other kind of personal information, for targeted culling.

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Mike's avatar

How do you totally try to eliminate the control group lack any interest or investigating possible vaccine side effects and have no concern for long term testing and yet the overwhelming majority of scientists and doctors agree this is science . What a scandal.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Could they be planning to use Marburg? Saw somethIng (from WHO?) that called Marburg the next big global risk & called on pharmas to start developing vaxes for it.

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J R's avatar

There has to be enough plausible deniability at these touch points such that people will harbor doubts but not connect the dots.

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Mike's avatar

The fact that the Supreme Court has not addressed this yet or looked at any evidence of election fraud tells you all you have to know they are part of the system or lack the courage to define it classic twiddling while Rome burns .Taking real important cases like online bullying in high school while it is quiete clear censorship and totalitarianism is destroying all but the elite . Contemtable people trying to ride the storm out pretending they are the last defense of people s rights . They care not for any rights as long as they sit in there dresses looking important.

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Oh I pray for you 🙏

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Allow me to don my tin foil hat for a moment:

There exists a number....A number of humans that this clump of dirt we call earth can support... I don't know what that number is. Maybe 20 billion? 30 billion? 50? Who knows? But it DOES exist.

Do you want to get close to it? Using the proverbial iceberg and titanic analogy - If you do a minute course correction while 10 miles away, you'll miss the berg by 5 miles by the time you get close. If you wait too long, you must go hard to port/starboard and may still hit it.

When would be a good time to whittle down the human population? Before you get too close or when you're right on the threshold?

Consider:

In 1950, the earth's population was roughly 2.5 billion people. In 2020, we have 7.7 billion people. That's an effective tripling of the earth's human population in just 70 years.

There are probably some very smart people looking at the rate of consumption that the human population is engaging in.... And they're extending the trend lines out a few years and shaking their heads.

That could very well be what this whole Covid hysteria is all about...

Or should I switch to decaf?

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Florida Man's avatar

The problem with your theory is that most western countries and China, have populations that are on the verge of cratering. Many of the highest consumption countries have very old populations with birth rates well below replacement. In fact many experts have been predicting an economic crisis in most of the world due to a lack of consumers to absorb the world's production. It also seems that as quality of life increases, people opt to have less children, so the highest consumption countries populations tend to shrink. My own pet theory is that these "people" pulling the stings are undertaking an entirely ideological project to create a unified planetary government that "they" in their magnanimous benevolence will control. They believe that this will lead to a more peaceful and just world. It's megalomania and hubris on a grand scale!

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Mike H's avatar

But they can't wait - they want control within a few years. This has been in the planning stages for a while and now, many of those running and/or funding this don't have many years left.

They want to create paradise on Earth (run by them) before they check out and be remembered as one of the greatest humans who ever lived. Of course sane people who have learned the lessons of history know the opposite will occur.

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Franky Frank's avatar

Great and true opinion. They are trying to play Gods who would turn this despotic dangerous planet to paradise where everyone live in peace. They think the only way to reach it is to destroy all identities human being can have - racial, national, even sexual. Remove God from our life as much as possible . Control every single detail of our life. Create system where you gonna be watched and punisched like a child if you don't behave. I am really afraid that they create system very totalitarian and then they will be replaced with new generation of tyrants and petverts who would have all tools to change that " heaven" into real hell. Nothing good came up from evil. And this pandemic is planned evil.

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Mike H's avatar

Yes. History is rife with individuals who believed they could create some form of paradise on earth (as opposed to experiencing it in the next life), and some even had good intentions. But whether they were corrupted by power or replaced by oppressive thugs, it has never worked and never will. The essential flaw is that we are all human -- absolute power corrupts absolutely, and those who would play God rather than submit to him always fail.

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Jessica's avatar

Unfortunately I think they have advanced technology that is at bare minimum going to extend their lives. And in the worst case, provide a form of immortality. It’s suspected that the organism that dr Carrie madej discovered in the “vaccine” is some type of hydra worm.

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R.E. Finch's avatar

Your pet theory is my pet theory. I did demographic analytics in political campaigns for 20 years, which led me to study group behavior more deeply. Charles Murray's, 'Coming Apart' was an enlightening read, particularly when I got to the parts about how today's elites were created. It's interesting to note they generally have more stable, above-replacement-rate families.

What's happening in the West is the eradication of the middle class by afflicting it with struggling families that require two-wage-earners just to get by, creeping dependency, and notably increased rates of single parenthood.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Interesting theory and you may be right... You certainly are with your point about replacement birthrates. I know this was the case with Germany - which is why Angela Merkel threw the doors open to 7th century cretins. 80 years ago they tried to purge themselves of productive, intelligent and certainly decent and civilized Jews - only to let themselves get overrun by ignorant and uncivilized savages. Need a chainsaw to cut thru that irony.

This is what totalitarians do - they want to consolidate power in a central government that has jurisdiction over as much area as they can. Like the EU. That way there is no escape.

The left hates the existence of federalism... The fact that since we have 50 states, and each of those states can do things differently than any other state, really annoys them. That's why they always want to cram down stuff at the federal level. No escape.

Look at how many people are fleeing NY and California for more sane destinations like Texas and Florida.

People can vote with their feet when you have 50 states. Not so when you cram down nonsense at the federal level.

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Richard Seager's avatar

As a lifelong leftie, a proper one, I consider Texas and Florida currently to be sanctuaries and I'd vote Di Santis if I was in Florida.

And you're right about federal state as well to a degree. Here in NZ we South Islanders are ruled by North Islanders and they're rotten to the core. But so is Australia tbh with 6 states all in lockstep with the Federal government on vaccines and lockdowns. So separation of powers is not working so great there, in fact they're in competition to outdo each other with how outrageous they can be.

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Katherine's avatar

Lol, I'm an older school feminist, animal rights person, believer in the the inherent rights of aboriginal people, strong envirnomentalist, natural medicine advocate, law and order supporter, hard money advocate, gold backed or silver backed, anti-multination corporations, or at least the virtually limitless power they currently wield, and a firm supporter of the U.S. Constitution , including the second amendment! What does that make me, lol??

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Moonspinner's avatar

It makes you my twin sister.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I think the Republicans & Democrats have to some extent swapped roles. Di Santis looks like a throwback to a better time from here and I'd trust him more than I do Trump. There don't seem to be any good Democrats.

Ardern's government has sanctioned abortion right up to full term here, we all have limits and that's well past mine. I voted Green two elections ago, last time I spoilt my ballot due to Government's (Labour i.e. Ardern) intention to bring in laws that imposed on women (I'm sure you know how) and because the Greens had gone full brown shirt with accompanying Green Washing & the Nationals (conservative) were just more of the same but with extra (if possible) meanness.

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dawn's avatar

I wish I was in Florida right now, sunshine, sanity and FREEDOM

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

A proper leftie? Is there such a thing? :-)

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Richard Seager's avatar

LOL. Probably not.

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

To answer this properly requires more time and space than I have now, and more patience than I think the readers would indulge me with.

The shortest answer is you are right.

Slightly longer, Malthus was not a genocidal maniac. He basically just said what you did, and that either nature would reduce the human population or somehow we would. But he was NOT genocidal and in fact was eminently decent and reasonable from what I have been able to learn from those who are onside, and studied him.

But what appears to be happening in the worst case, is genocidal, not Malthusian. If the worst case is true.

Yet Trudeau has made it clear that he is onboard with a program that will make the population of Canada 100,000,000 people. I believe through immigration. He is covering Canada's best farmland with housing developments everywhere you look.

Oddly when every other industry is shut down, large groups of construction workers seem to be able to continue their trade under conditions that no one else is allowed to do. This when Canada's exiting population is having far less than replacement babies.

So at the end of the day, it kinda looks like mass immigration, covid and vaxx regs etc. are all in tandem to negate Canada's culture of Western individualism, and create a densely populated but HIGHLY compliant population with a culture that is being imposed from a distinctly Hegelian/Marxist world view.

In other words...

Its all a commie plot. For real.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Well - I'm glad you didn't suggest decaf! Might have been a bridge too far!

Not just Trudeau... It seems that team dementia wants to spread the immigrants here too.

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Amy Joy's avatar

At the end of the day it kind of looks like "Shigalov's Model". It is 10/90, 10% of the population at the top, 90% slaves with no social mobility.

You can find it in "Demons" or "The Possessed" by Dostoyevsky. It was written 150 years ago and essentially explains - through deep character development - how the West has gotten from there to here. It can be listened to for free on Librivox while you do dishes and fold clothes. There is also a beautiful Russian-produced - really - 4-part mini series adaptation done in 2014 that I highly recommend. The dance with the pigs is chillingly familiar after the year we've been through!

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Daithi's avatar

Which makes me even more curious about why the increase in air traffic in recent days? My house is close to the great circle air route and for the past few weeks air traffic especially at night is easily double what it was in the summer.

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Polemos's avatar

Check flightradar24 and see their destinations. It might be cargo traffic, delivering mail. It might be weapons (Dilyana Gaytandzhieva's reporting of what Silk Way Airlines was doing in Saudi Arabia and Syria). Either way, it might enflame your curiosity . . . but maybe you're already aware of flightradar24.com?

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Harry Potter's avatar

That may be true. The planet can only support so much. But who ordains the response? Is this done by a faceless global bureaucracy? Or better yet, while man plans, God laughs.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Yes on all counts. Imagine for a moment if it were true. It's so fantastical that people would be like "Oh come on!! That could never happen!!" Which is exactly how it CAN happen.

There were people in Germany during the 30s and 40s that said: "What do you mean they're rounding up the Jews, putting them in boxcars and shipping them off to be exterminated! That's crazy talk!!"

I knew a German man who lived in Germany at that time. We were watching the "World at War" mini series... When the holocaust came up, he shook his head and denied that it was going on! This was after all that was discovered, all the witnesses, the Nuremburg trials, etc - He STILL didn't believe it!

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Harry Potter's avatar

Hard to believe. There is an episode in the docuseries Band of Brothers that chronicles the American paratroopers happening upon a death camp and being completely horrified. And then they made the local German townspeople bury the dead. They knew all along what was going on and did nothing. Once confronted w the actual dead bodies piled up they were in shock. Evil can build amongst us.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

A lot of people knew what was going on. You can find clues in old movies. Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator (1940) has glaring references to what was happening. Also in Casablanca (1942)

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

Yeah, it's funny what kind of fantasies people will indulge in..

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

What really made it interesting was his wife. Her father worked for the railroad and was well aware of what was happening in Germany at that time. So when we were all watching 'The World At War' and he started in casting doubt on the Holocaust, etc.... She chimed in with "Oh stop it! Everyone knew what was going on!"

It was astounding.... These two grew up in Germany and were living there during WWII.... And now they were husband and wife. Here it is in the 70s - 30 years after the end of WWII and apparently, they never talked about what went on and he was completely ignorant of those events.

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

I apologize, I was being facetious. "History is not black and white" https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/welcome.html

Though I abhor identity politics, let me offer some context: I am a liberal in the true meaning of the sense, I'm gay, in an interracial relationship, and grew up in the system in a variety of multicultural households, and have had the good fortune to travel the world. I believe there is no logical reason to bear animosity for any group based on things which are out of their control, such as their race, or to whom they were born. The only people I dislike are *bad* people, and I'm only interested in the truth, or in lieu of that, the facts. This subject brought me discomfort when I first came across it, I was totally oblivious of its existence. I literally felt a quivering in the pit of my stomach. I believed what I'd been told. Nonetheless, being the inquisitive type, I ploughed forward. I eventually learned a lot about the way the world really works. I can't tell you what to do, I can only suggest that we take a lot for granted, and make an awful lot of assumptions. With the best of intentions, we repeat falsehoods because we haven't taken the time to confirm any of the facts for ourselves. There's a reason so many people said "I never knew anything untoward was going on." Why is it we never give any of them the benefit of the doubt, or take them at face value?

"Joseph Goebbels’ 105-year-old secretary: ‘No one believes me now, but I knew nothing’" She said of Goebbels “No ACTOR could have been any better at the transformation from a civilized, serious person into a ranting, rowdy man … In the office he had a kind of noble elegance, and then to see him there like a raging midget – you just can’t imagine a greater contrast.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/15/brunhilde-pomsel-nazi-joseph-goebbels-propaganda-machine

If there's no other link you follow, you should look around Miles Mathis' site, he covers a huge array of topics, and any honest examination of his work will show he's not some crackpot bigot.

Hitler's Genealogy http://mileswmathis.com/hiller.pdf

The Beer Hall Putsch http://mileswmathis.com/putsch.pdf

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William Rau's avatar

History shows that nature will level off population. At some point it just will happen. Regardless of that, building houses for people who aren’t going to be here is not rational. None of this rational but two things: power and money.

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

I'll take, "none of this is rational" for 500 Alex.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

True.... But we no longer have world wars, like we did last century, helping mother nature with the heavy lifting. We whittled away about 100 million between WWI, WWII, and the spread of communism.

Of course, we have democrats to resurrect communism right here in the land of the free! Or used to be.

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Jessica's avatar

All of the people in the 3rd world will be imported here. The conditions they live under now would be greatly improved here. All they have to do is inject the substance, work to “build back better” and be provided subsidized basic living expenses. It would be like winning the lottery. If anyone still doesn’t understand, this “vaccine” is too put a tracker on each individual so they can lock your identity to the blockchain. This is also a great currency reset. When the dollar fails and we switch to cbdc’s, only those who have taken the shot will be able to buy or sell.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I don’t think a course correct involving destroying human civilisation works. Not in a positive way, anyway.

I do think it’s possible the elites see us as using up “their” non renewables.

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Katherine's avatar

One question I do have is how many "perps" do we have in this Global Crime Spree? I know many of the "middle management" is in full hypnosis and just blindly stumbling forward, and for the general population it's easier to accept your orders once you have bought into the plan, (taken the Covid money, the Covid Bio Weapon, [disguised as a "vaccine,"] masked themselves, locked down, etc.,) but, that's different than the people, (if they are people,) who planned and executed this event. It is my supposition that it is only a handful, and the rest are just following orders, asking no questions and raking in the cash and power, but I would really like to know... Any guesses?

Thanks!

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Jessica's avatar

Rumor has it that there are 12 bloodlines that are involved. And have always been involved. This has been in the works for a very long time. https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Two years ago I’d have chuckled. Now, I’m just humble. I don’t know anything, including the truths surrounding my own life.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

It’s a great & tough question analogous to the situation pertaining to Germany 1945-6.

Reiner Fuellmich has suggested in a few thousands who have a copy of the script, but only a fraction know the endgame isn’t carbon neutrality by constrained living, but by dying.

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Katherine's avatar

Sounds about right to me. And, studies show that many people are truly Sociopaths, Psychopaths and Narcissists,

so a couple thousand at the top of the power pyramids with that disorder would be no surprise.... But I think there is a chance everyone is in for some surprises, as I have seen some wonderful research on the sun, it's cycles, and influence on climate. There is good evidence and a theory that we are actually heading into a "Maunder Minimum" type of quiet solar cycle, which will cause global cooling, between now and 2030. And while I think it very possible that excess CO2 is a problem, I also believe our planetary climate is very complex, and that we don't understand it yet. There is also evidence of epochs with very high CO2, and the flora and fauna were much, much larger than today, and totally thriving. Also, there was the Roman warm period, with a much warmer climate than ours, and ancient sea maps showing coast lines of Greenland and Antarctica. (Without ice.) Also, as our planet becomes more geologically active, (upticks in volcanoes and earthquakes,) we could have heating from within the oceans. Now, I do believe we should be getting off fossil fuels, and nuclear power, for many reasons, but I don't believe we need to kill our civilization (and ourselves) to get the job done. In our human hubris we always think we know more than we actually do....and also seem to panic often. Climate resilience is my watchword, along with, listening to, and analyzing ALL the science, not just the current "politically correct" science....

Maybe our "perps" should broaden their reading material also.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I'm pretty middle of the road on climate science, I would find it hard to believe that humans are not having an impact on it currently. CO2 & Methane have spiked since industrialization and more so recently (there's a delay between release of the CO2 & impacts - about 30 years or so). The Arctic is losing ice and I did my mini-thesis on it (for a PGDipSci) about 5 years ago and concluded that summer ice would be gone very soon, but even the ones who think it will take longer think it will be gone by 2040. Also multi year thick ice has almost gone completely now so what's left is one or two year ice (so it has to refreeze each year). That to me seems pretty scary especially with all those methane deposits on the East Siberian shelf.

And Romans mapping Antarctica? Seems unlikely. Even Romans mapping the Arctic seems unlikely albeit there are some who claim that the Romans did make it that far. The Arctic would have been a lot more extensive 1-2k years ago but even more extensive if you go back a little further. The 10k holocene started more or less at the same time that the Laurentide slipped out of its bed.

But on the other hand I've just seen a paper on the Stratosphere and it is definitely cooling. In the interests of science I intend to track down some Finnish academics (physicists) who wrote some papers a few years ago suggesting man made CO2 didn't have a large part to play. Also correlation and causation, definitely in the past CO2 increases were correlated with warmer periods but they didn't seem to cause them. That may have changed with out prolific outputs of CO2.

But whatever the case is these guys have latched onto it for other purposes. Their Agenda 21 for example predates any of them having much of an idea about climate change. It is very useful for them.But the trillions that have been printed since 2008 with the trillions before then that these guys stole from the American Government suggest other reasons for this nonsense, as do covid passes and their requirements for a jab every few months. So they have a motivation to exaggerate climate change dangers but i tend to think they don't need exaggerating, they really are bad. Nevertheless we could probably manage it. Yet they're building luxury electric cars instead and manufacturing giant windmills which probably over a lifetime have a net impact of more C02 into the atmosphere (manufacturing, transportation, support). It's just completely nuts.

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Richard Seager's avatar

There's definite involvement at lower levels than 'only a handful'. I definitely know of a few of them, maybe even know a few of them.

And some of them have been told the same thing, it's about population. Others have been told other things. Whatever floats their boat basically.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Wow. People told it’s about population and they don’t realise the implications?

I think I know some people close to the top of the executive side. Because of my long history in Biopharma. None will speak with me, even though we’ve been colleagues & sometimes friends.

Most people asserted to me that no one knowing it’s population would cooperate. You know, your info counters that. I think, sadly, plenty of people will do things for money. They’re fools if they think they too won’t be eaten by the monster they’re bringing into being.

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idaman winahjusidi's avatar

Dr Yeadon, hat tip for You, Malone, mcCullough, Kory, Simone, Judy & dozen other senior doctors for initiating fight for science & pro public in covid.

I am a dhuafa (the poorest) from SE Asia, on Tele I follow Robin+Cory, Tenpenny, dailyexpose, NursesSpeakOut, etc, also Sidney Powell, Garret Ziegler, Stew Peters & other political/law fighters in U.S.

I posted many in Tele (coz Twiter discarded me) the viral Spartacus Letter pdf less than 24 hour after apearred in net--zerohedge.com, before that pdf was taken down.

Pierre Bourdieu R.I.P. is the greatest sociologist of 20th century & most productive of all with >20 important books (of course I read none--I rent a room in slums & got knowledge from net).

Bourdieu is also a public intellectual (joined rally, etc) and a rarest who can debunked Marx, clean & clear.

Bourdieu has 4 interrelated important concepts For Research on one's doing in social setting : Habitus, Practice, Field, & Capital (his Capital concept is a breakthrough).

Simplified, that 4 makes a Framework For Research : one's PRACTICE ~ [ (one's HABITUS) (one's CAPITAl) ] + one's external FIELD.

Bourdieu's concepts related to narrative/discourse : Doxa (search images of it), Symbolic Violence/or Power, Misrecognition, & Social Reproduction.

His "theories" were based not on "things" or substances, but on the structural arrangement and meanings of their social relations.

Among Bourdieu quotes:

Everything Is Social.

Practice has a logic which is not that of a logician.

A Capital Does Not Exist and Function Except In Relation To a Field. (me: imagine electromagnetic field)

Public Opinion Is A Battlefield.

Every established order tends to produce the naturalization of its own arbitrariness.

The Most Violence Element in Society Is Ignorance - Emma Goldman

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Katherine's avatar

I so totally agree with you!

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Richard Seager's avatar

My main interest is climate science....

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Katherine's avatar

Go deeper, and go higher. Learn about the condition Native Americans call"Wetico." Think about the Gnostic texts which describes the "Archons" and their appearance.

"There are stranger things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your Philosophy. "

(Shakespeare)

There is nothing new under the sun.

Evil walks abroad, can appear human, but is not. Humane and Human are one concept. What is going on now is neither, IMO. But, humans are easily conditioned, easily "hypnotized," and once you watch the Milgram experiment, you see how quickly most decent, normal, young people can be convinced by an Authority figure to inflict terrible suffering and harm to others.

Moral education, and the development of critical thinking skills are essential to human beings, if they wish to remain human, and not become hosts for something that frankly isn't! (Again, just IMO.) If we are to preserve portions of humanity from the plague of evil and corruption that currently besets us we must learn to see that any time we move away from, "do unto others as we would have done unto us," we are heading off into the darkness.....

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R.E. Finch's avatar

You can already search the peak number. "Very smart" people have already figured it out. It's estimated at 10.9 billion, after which point it is going to fall. It will happen by 2100.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

It really doesn't take a genius to figure out that with unbridled population growth, improved overall health and increased lifespans, increased consumption of resources, etc. - that it doesn't look good for planet earth in the long term.

Of course, that doesn't mean I subscribe to the weird weather cult of AOC, Greta Thunberg, and Al Gore.

Somewhere in between.

Be good stewards of the planet, it's resources and wildlife but not to the point where we're all back in mud huts.

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Duchess's avatar

The worlds population is already declining. This population stuff is just another way to control people and things. We are animals, and like all animals, will go through population booms and busts. Except this one is man made...but it is still going on. Worrying about population control is a waste of time. Just like worrying about Climate. YOu cannot do anything about either. Despite thinking you can.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Need some clarification.... Worrying about population or worrying about population control?

What I do know is the human population was 2.5 billion in 1950. In 2020 - it was 7.7 billion. That's a tripling of the number in just 70 years. Back in the last century, we had 2 world wars and a flu pandemic in the early 1900s. Between the world wars and the communist and fascist dictators, they finished off over 100 million people. Had those things not happened, I wonder how many people the earth would have? There is a number.... A number of people the earth can reasonably support. What is that number? 10 billion? 20 billion? 15? The closer you get to that number, the more drastic the measures you must take not to exceed it. And what happens if you surpass it and you exhaust the earth's resources? What then?

I agree with you that trying to affect climate is folly. But trying to control population growth can be done - I think it's happening right before our eyes now.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

The one thing I've never seen is the rate of consumption that we're currently achieving. Some things are renewable but many things aren't.

I'm glad I won't be around in 2100 though...

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norstadt's avatar

Don't be so melodramatic. Competition makes us stronger. Maybe trust-fund-types are afraid of it.

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Jessica's avatar

Had the government not been handing out fistfuls of cash to their corporate buddies since inception, growth wouldn’t have spiraled out of control. You used to have to plan for families and such. Because they are expensive and require resources. That’s no longer an issue apparently for.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Well.... It won't be when the government takes control of raising our kids.... Incidentally, they already do that in large part with the black community....How's that working out?

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Jessica's avatar

It’s the most terrifying aspect of all their plans. They are going to wipe out the people who took the substance and the kids will be left to be indoctrinated.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

When you see how hard they're trying to force everyone into the vaccine chute, including children, it's hard not to come to that conclusion. Except for members of congress and their staff - AND illegals spilling over the border... Ostensibly, they would already have their allegiance. If they didn't, they have the power to deport them.

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Richard Seager's avatar

The Romans tried for hundreds of years before a new religion settled. But even then you have a very similar story in Nicaea and Whitby and 9th Century British coins with Islamic script on them.

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Julie Harrell's avatar

No don't switch, they are trying to depopulate the earth all over the country. Look up the Georgia Guidestones. That will tell you what the Satanic Freemasons want. 500,000,000. That's all folks. They will pull another off if Trump has not come back yet. And who knows, I pray God still has his back.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

The only real question one has in any of these possibilities is: What are we going to do about it? I have no clue. Comes a point when I just have to trust that God has this all in hand.

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Jessica's avatar

Yes. That is the way. The evil people that are at the top of the hierarchy are the ones who want the ultimate control over you. They want you tagged and submissive. Eventually worshipping them. This is all spelled out in the book of revelation. Behold a pale horse by William cooper (killed by the govt) lays out the detailed plan. We are somewhere between revelation 13-17. The pope is the false prophet. He is leading us to a one world government that will deny that Jesus is the son of God. The only salvation needed by God is your belief that Jesus died for your sins. He explains that throughout the entire Bible. Then you get to revelation, and He specifically tells you what the plan is. We haven’t gotten to the “you can’t buy or sell without the mark” yet. But you can see where this is going. The vaccine has the tracker in it. They’ve been doing it openly for years in 3rd world countries. They will reset the currency digitally. Then deny you the ability to use the system without the mark. These evil people have been slipping into important positions of control for decades. In multiple countries. This is a global takeover. The tyranny coming out of Australia is because the heads of state are complicit.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Sure seems like their plan is coming together.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thanks for this link—I have been wondering about the stats of reported vaccinated deaths vs. supposed COVID deaths. When I crunched Australia’s numbers in the Down Under Edition of my Recommendations Roundup (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/recommendations-roundup-2-down-under-41b), I found:

“The number of deaths reported following injection (509) is NEARLY TRIPLE the reported deaths from COVID (193) during the same time period—and that is with COVID death rates being vastly inflated due to comorbidities, administration of lethal medications like Remdesivir, the use of fatal practices such as intubation and ventilators, and the denial of lifesaving medications like ivermectin (which, incidentally, the TGA—Australia’s equivalent of the FDA—recently banned for use in COVID patients, having already done so for hydroxychloroquine, in a stratagem to force people to submit to injection).”

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Jessica's avatar

This is how it happened:

1. release covid

2. Use pcr tests at lowest threshold to confirm “cases”.

3. Those who end up in hospital, use remdesiver and vents to kill them

4. Call the deaths covid

5. Terrify the ppl. Run propaganda 24/7.

6. Shame ivermectin. Confiscate monoclonal antibodies

7. Introduce the “final solution”.

They had to do part 6 because proof of anything that was effective would mean they couldn’t use the EUA. Then the whole scale with approving comirnaty that is not available and then swapping it out with the experimental. Yes same substance. But one makes them liable and one doesn’t.

Even right now I do believe ivermectin is banned at every hospital in the US. I also believe that remdesivar is still the primary treatment.

There are also reports from nurses that midazolam was used at higher doses in the nursing home. This killed those patients, no autopsies were done, they claimed it as covid deaths and scared the crap out of people more.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Jessica, that about sums it up! Don’t forget #10 in the 10 stages of genocide: denial.

Interesting point about #6 because that’s exactly what I said in the piece I published last night, Letter to a Scientifically-Minded Friend, Case Study: The Ivermectin Disinformation Campaign (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-scientifically-minded)!

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Steve Meadows's avatar

It's a substitute for a world war. It's the same agenda as WWI and WWII. Mass death and panic causes certain industries to profit, pharmaceutical instead of defense industries. Asset values crash such as small businesses forced into bankruptcy while the elite profit.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

It's not a hard conclusion when you consider that many who have been pushing vaccines the hardest have also participated in forums regarding population control. Gates, Fauci, Schwab, etc.

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Glen Jung's avatar

Thank you, Dr. Yeadon, for your voice in this fight. Would you be interested in doing an interview with us, brightlightnews, an independent media outlet from Canada born out of Covid.

We have interviewed the likes of Dr. Peter McCullough (https://brightlightnews.com/the-truth-about-covid-19-vaccines-dr-peter-mccullough-md/), Dr. Paul Alexander, Dr. Richard Urso, & Dr. Roger Hodkinson.

If so, we would greatly appreciate you sharing your wisdom and expertise in a way that other doctors are not warning...

Best,

Gord

gord@brightlightnews.com

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idaman winahjusidi's avatar

Yes, all the (massively fatal) lies/lying are consistent with criminal motives.

For example...

https://nzdsos.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Call-to-action.pdf

Monday 28 June 2021

New Zealand Doctors Speaking Out With Science (NZDSOS)

A Call To Action

....

Finally, let us look at some real covid vaccine disinformation, some of it from the Prime Minister herself :

1. Injection stays in the arm.

UNTRUE

2. Makes an inert harmless protein.

UNTRUE

3. Not possible to change our DNA.

UNTRUE

4. Better than natural immunity.

UNTRUE

5. Vaccine is the only effective option against covid-19 infection.

UNTRUE

6. The Pfizer Comirnaty has been tested like our registered vaccines.

UNTRUE

7. Approved in New Zealand.

UNTRUE

8. Is not an experiment. That is ridiculous.

UNTRUE

9. Medium and long-term complications are known.

UNTRUE

10. Will be voluntary and you can keep your job and live normally.

UNTRUE

11. Will protect against the variants now all over the world.

UNTRUE

12. Hydroxychloroquine was proven unsafe and ineffective.

UNTRUE

13. Ivermectin has no evidence as a cure for the pandemic.

UNTRUE

14. Asymptomatic people spread the infection.

UNTRUE

15. Children are at risk of significant harm from covid.

UNTRUE

16. Only our MOH and the government can be trusted as the single source of truth.

UNTRUE

17. The vaccine companies have to pay out for injuries.

UNTRUE

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Cairn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Cindy's "Be Kind" mask has fallen. I am proud to have been on Tuesday's March on Parliament. The media is still working on the narrative for that. Currently I am hearing from once-were-friends around the country, that the protesters are "idiots". Some are playing up the MAGA aspect. It was actually Make Ardern Gone Again.

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Moonspinner's avatar

Make Ardern Go Away!

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nightspore's avatar

An alternative hypothesis is that this is all about vax passports and mass surveillance. The problem is that the vaccines turned out to be much more dangerous than was realized. This would certainly be consistent with the stupidity and downright unreality that we've witnessed during the past two years. I also think that this vaccine madness is too widespread to be planned. And why is Israel leading the pack? Seems like an odd thing for the Israeli government to do to its own people.

My point in making this argument is that we're all speculating - and we should remember that. (On the other hand, at this point I don't think any of these ideas can be taken off the table.)

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Another entertaining theory... And it could be true. I like your final statement about the fact that WE'RE ALL SPECULATING. How very true and how very typical of people who can critically think. Bravo.

We're not so convinced of our positions to eliminate the possibility that we just might be wrong.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I appreciate the effort.

May I ask you to watch this one hour documentary & hear if this changes your view or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3WUv5SV5Hg

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Horten Who!'s avatar

Dark Winter! Wow

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Florida Man's avatar

Of course it's all speculation. Trying to make some sense it "all" is the the unavoidable exercise of the brain. This mass psychosis; regardless of its origin, or path, is ultimately just another cycle, in the endless series of historical cycles of rise and fall, that characterize all human civilizations. The precise motives, and mechanism of action, only really matter if we could learn from our mistakes as a society, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

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Bryan G Nielsen's avatar

Will Rogers once stated that there's 3 kinds of people:

1. Ones that learn from reading.

2. Ones that learn by observing others.

3. Ones that must pee on the electric fence for themselves.

Sadly, we are being governed by the 3rd variety... Normally, I would find it quite amusing to watch someone else pee on the electric fence while I stood by and watched.... But they insist that we ALL join hands and stand in 6 inches of water while they do it!

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Franky Frank's avatar

Ok. When it comes to Israel - rich people don't give a damn about poor people. Rich jews about poor jews. Rich christians about poor one , doesn't matter religion. And globalists don't want all this circus look too much suspicious so they are squeezing throats of Israelis more then throats of others. And yes , its planned. USA, western countries, Russia and China made a deal - unleash on its citizens green vax passports and mass surveillance. I believe later they will require you to " behave " not to get your passport revoked - pay tickets, taxes etc.Social score system. Other small or big countries has no chance to protest. Politicians are either paid off or threatened. Vatican has globalists Pope and other institution are are already long time in hands of globalist. Any resistance its only all up to us - ordinary people .

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

Great comment!

As I see it, the eternal question, is this incompetence or malevolence, and which is usually incompetence, in this case is a double helping of both. There is an enormous amount of malevolence in the gain of function research and subsequent use of the virus to subvert democracy to unseat a president who was not on board with what increasingly looks like a fascist revolution globally.

Fascist in the proper sense where a merger of large corporations and government centrally plan everything at the expense of the existence of the individual, or any culture on Earth at all.

Incompetence in the sense that a lot went wrong that they did not expect to go wrong. So now the trick is the micro-blaming. Which things were intended and which are blunders.

We'll probably have to wait till the mRNA shots are in people for a year or so to truly know what they do, and which of those things we can prove are intended.

I would bet the fact that they wear off from 2 months (Jensen) to 6 months, (Pfizer and ModeRNA) was unintended. I think they expected these damn shots to force our bodies to make the spike proteins for years. If indeed those who got the shots live that long.

As you say, Vaxx passports. That is part of the overall plan to negate all our cultures. Between loss of all basic individual rights and a flooding of alien cultures into our midst, there will not be enough cohesion to restore who and what we are and our history is no longer shared with those around us.

So I would say the mRNA shots are merely one vector of attack against all our peoples and cultures in what is a mass line Maoist attack against our very essence. Some will die, the rest, slaves in that Soviet or North Korean sense.

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Randy Bella's avatar

Incompetence v malevolence when both lead to the same tragedy, may not have a real difference, certainly not to the victims. But since they claim to be experts, then the punishment reserved for the malevolent is met.

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

The difference is really in the predictive value of the model. But I fully agree at many levels it makes no difference. To quote a friend of mine who is a lot smarter than me, "When someone is shooting at you, it doesn't matter who it is or why, you have to shoot back".

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Katherine's avatar

Or get out of town, quickly!

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Florida Man's avatar

Wouldn't even surprise me to learn that these vaccines were developed a decade or two before the outbreak; held back, and then released after they got us to an appropriate level of hysterical fear to take it without question.

I don't trust anything anymore, but I won't be turned into an angry cynic. I've decided to be a happy cynic. It's not easy to be both cynical and happy, but I believe the key is to view the rest of your life as an adventure to be tackled with as much courage and enthusiasm as possible. No sense in getting all upset and crying over spilt civilization.

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Harry Potter's avatar

nightspore this may seem like a dumb question. Can you point me to the reports or data that show the vaccine is worse, the dangers of the vaccine. I am surrounded by vaccine evangelists who believe the vaccine is everything.

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Katherine's avatar

Sheryl Atkinson has put together a tremendous amount of information on the Covid Shot collateral damage, it's origin, and more. I don't have the links handy, but I bet you can find them easy enough. Then there is Dr. Peter McCullough, Geert Vanden Bossche and Robert Malone interview where they cover the dangers, Dr. Rose on VAERS, Dr. Ryan Cole on suspicious deaths, after Covid shots, Byram Bridle, Dr. James Lyons-Weiler with new data from DOD, and finally Dr. Christine Northrop, Dr. Carrie Madje, & Dr. Sherrie Tenpenny, if you want to deep dive. Of course Dr. Micheal Yeadon, formerly of Pfizer, is here on this thread, and his information is stellar! Good luck with the Covid Hypnotised.

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Harry Potter's avatar

Thank you very much. I am afraid now to read this I am interested because of my 10 year old daughter. There has been tremendous pressure in my community for kids her age to be vaccinated. I was not in favor and planned to hold off. But unfortunately my wife got her the shot while I was away on business.

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nightspore's avatar

Just noticed your email - Katherine's comment below covers a lot of the major players . To that I would add dailysceptic.org, which has a lot of general information on the pandemic, including problems with the vaccines. A site dedicated to your specific concern is vaccinedeaths.com. You really need to look at Sen. Johnson's hearing on this topic at youtube.com/watch?v=lepqvdXoA2E. Also there is a German workshop on vacccine effects, which can be seen at odysee.com/@en:a5/Pk_Tot-durch-Impfung_english:a

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

The UK government and Israeli government data is best. Alex Berenson's substack is a great source. Here is a link to the UK data that Alex used on the Joe Rogan show:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

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Horten Who!'s avatar

It's to control the narrative of Big Government can save everyone if people become co dependent to the very scum that caused all of this. It is mind boggling that people are just blindly going along without questioning every aspect. Our children need to be protected at Every cost!

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly. Another prong is the vax passport / world government scheme. The wargames / "tabletop exercises" would seem to confirm the fact that the perpetrators had foresight. There's Event 201. Also, from 2019, there was "Stress Tests: An Insight Into Crisis Scenarios, Simulations and Exercises (Unleashing 'Virus Z')" and 2018, the European Commission's "Exercise Chimera"

Dr. Yeadon, what is your opinion on virus isolation, whether it's occurred, and whether *any* of the tests are using a valid reference standard?

If, as it appears based on the exercises, this 'pandemic' with a 99.97% survival rate is just a pretext, and was in planning possibly for decades, then what are the odds they would then just sit around and wait for a real virus to show up? Pretty low, I'd say, so that leaves two options. 1) They released a harmless virus, or 2) they just re-branded an existing cold virus.

Eugyppius posted an article the other day about how the SARS-COV2 is showing up in sewage samples etc. around the world from 2019. The implication is that these tests are meaningless.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

You’re right, it’s not strictly necessary to release (or capitalise upon) a new virus to see all that we see.

I’m not certain if SARS-COV-2 exists outside a computer or not.

The PCR mass we have in U.K. is unregulated, moved out of the state sector in early summer 2020. It’s now done in huge new private labs. No one inspects them or their staff. They run excessive cycles & seemingly change numbers of gene detected. A very experienced friend worked in one & says the operational false positive rate could be anything, and they never run full chain based of custody negative controls.

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

I appreciate the response. I can't recall where, but I've also read that each brand/lab is looking at a different segment of the sequence.

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

of the (purported) sequence

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SKent's avatar

Dead or no, they clearly want no 'control group' for commoners to make clear comparisons with.

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VladTepesBlog's avatar

We will always have the Amish. I believe they are a control group for all vaccines. I wonder what the autism rate and peanut allergy rate is amongst those people. Oh wait its zero.

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John Ben-Daniel (dr)'s avatar

A thought provoking comment, Mike, but I would suggest the observations point to the attainment of a new social reality, rather than simply 'death' of large numbers. If instead of the guillotine, or the 'red army', the vaccine is the primary means of imposing a far-left totalitarian 'revolution', then it may be that deaths are considered an inevitable consequence, a necessary part of the scenario. For the dark forces organizing this 'revolution', the means justifies the ends, and that is the kind of morality we up against....

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Sadly, as we all know by now, this whole debacle has almost nothing to do with public health and everything to do with making money for Big Pharma. For me, the most alarming aspect is the near total control that TPTB (not just Pharma, clearly) have been able to exert over most government and health officials, all corporate media, the entire medical industrial complex the court system, and, in some places, law enforcement officials (e.g. Australia). It's mind boggling to watch so many professional people become so beholden to . . . them.

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M. G.'s avatar

Agreed. And to see supposedly educated people falling for it hook, line, and sinker is distressing. We haven't seen our MIL in a year and a half (she lived with us for 19 years up to then) after her daughter drove over 1000 miles to rescue her from us since we actually lived life in 2020. We went to the lake with family-gasp. We went bowling-unbelievable! And so on and so on. They watch CNN 24/7. It is truly frightening to see the mass psychosis going on right in front of our eyes. We finally got Covid this past summer (after a fun 2 weeks in Florida) and guess what, EARLY TREATMENT with Ivermectin, HCQ, Budesonide, Zpac, Vitamin D3, Aspirin and other supplements did the trick. Felt better after 2 days! There is proven early treatment, and the fact that the news won't report it is astonishing.

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Mike Fay's avatar

It’s not even that media simply avoids reporting it. It’s actually worse because they perpetuate misinformation on top of censoring the counter-narrative. Mary Beth Pfeiffer just helped get retractions regarding ivermectin and Twitter responded by locking her account.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Agreed: it is a mass psychosis. Question is why. It is absolutely not an accident & the same methods have apparently been used everywhere. I’m surprised that they work everywhere.

Why not here?

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MJamesConway's avatar

We're going through the same brainwashing process that Germans went through in the 30's. Find an enemy, instill fear and confusion, divide, and provide a solution.

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LP934's avatar

Can't remember where I came across this - I think someone posted it in a Eugyppius reply (sadly, tragically, maybe it was always thus?):

"Plays, farces, spectacles, gladiators, strange beasts, medals, pictures, and other such opiates, these were for ancient peoples the bait toward slavery, the price of their liberty, the instruments of tyranny. By these practices and enticements the ancient dictators so successfully lulled their subjects under the yoke, that the stupefied peoples, fascinated by the pastimes and vain pleasures flashed before their eyes, learned subservience as naively, but not so creditably, as little children learn to read by looking at bright picture books. Roman tyrants invented a further refinement. They often provided the city wards with feasts to cajole the rabble, always more readily tempted by the pleasure of eating than by anything else.

The most intelligent and understanding amongst them would not have quit his soup bowl to recover the liberty of the Republic of Plato. Tyrants would distribute largess, a bushel of wheat, a gallon of wine, and a sesterce: and then everybody would shamelessly cry, ‘Long live the King!’ The fools did not realize that they were merely recovering a portion of their own property, and that their ruler could not have given them what they were receiving without having first taken it from them.”

~ Etienne de La Boétie, Discourse on Voluntary Servitude, 1548

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Jessica's avatar

Because the only goal here is to tag the people before the great currency reset to digital cbdc’s. The financial system was going to crack just before “covid” it. I’ve been following since 2001. They “lost” trillions of dollars the day before 9/11 according to the govt. Then we get to the fraud of 2008. Putting the system at the brink of economic collapse. But they swooped in and print money for 11 straight years. This is why people have been calling for a crash for the last 11 years. When they couldn’t justify more printing, “covid” showed up. Allowing them unprecedented and unlimited ability to print. But as you know, once you start, you can’t stop. This always ends in demise for a govt and a country. The only solution is to let it crash. Unless you figure out something that no other economy in history has ever figured out. ALL currencies fail eventually. The great currency reset was required. But this time, they can reset the currency with cbdc’s. But they must have everyones identity on the blockchain for it to work. Crypto is too decentralized and they would have lost the ability to continue their control over their slaves.

The ONLY goal with the vaccine is that “every human being must be marked before the great reset. Or dead. Either is fine”. That’s why you see them all sticking to the same script no matter the overwhelming amount of data. Every human being must be marked.

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Freethinker321's avatar

They must have been so inwardly disappointed that you recovered so quickly.

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Mike H's avatar

So you took HORSE DEWORMER?? (Me too -- taking it prophylactically, via prescription).

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VeryVer's avatar

Where’s you get it?

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M. G.'s avatar

myfreedoctor.com They will prescribe for prophylaxis. I would get it now and have it on hand. That is what I did before we went to Florida. I got sick after we got back, it started like allergies on a Friday night, then cough and mild soreness on Saturday. I took my Ivermectin that night just in case, and I am glad I did because the cough and soreness hit like a truck the next day. But by Monday that was all gone and I was just really tired. I'm over 50

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John001's avatar

Belated comment ... one can buy IM via Indiamart. UK Customs didn't confiscate my friends' order but did open their parcel to inspect. Another chap got his parcel delivered unopened. So it's probably random.

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Julie Spehar's avatar

How did your MIL's daughter get your MIL to go back with her?

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M. G.'s avatar

Because my MIL is living in total fear of the virus. She was glad to be rescued from our unsafe house. Went to live with her daughter, got double-vaxxed, and is now on oxygen 24/7, but NOT because of the shot. Just a coincidence to them. I'm so over all of this.

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M. G.'s avatar

And here's the kicker. Even though we have awesome natural immunity now, she still won't see us and actually asked my husband today if we were going to get our shot now! You can't make this shit up.

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Ann Marie's avatar

So, I take it that at least she is no longer hospitalized and is off oxygen any longer, but is now still communicating with your husband urging you all to get vaccinated ??? You are right, if you tried you could not make up a more bazaar story ! It's like my relatives who are currently vacationing at a resort, and he was told he must wear a MASK while lifting weights (NOT a medically intelligent thing to do to deprive the heart of even a small percentage of oxygen while doing such strenuous activity), but WAS told he could walk 8ft to the treadmill area with 6 units, and run as long as he wanted without a mask...yes, you can't make up things so BAZAAR ! It makes as much sense as the virus KNOWS not to enter when you take your mask down for a bit of your meal, but all bets are off once you pull it back up while chewing ???? And WE DO IT, like victims of lobotomies !

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

I'm sorry - who is MIL? A millennial kid of yours?

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LP934's avatar

Mother-in-Law i think...

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M. G.'s avatar

Yes

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Ann Marie's avatar

What is even more astonishing is that your doctor was willing to give you these treatments, so many near us have passed while trying to find treatment. Another neighbor only 3 weeks ago, fine and active all summer, "fully" vaccinated at they say, and with in a week after contracting it, passed. Trying to get these kinds of treatments, Zpacs, HCQ ,Ivermectin, etc. etc. it's too late after you are ill and can hardly stay awake from the fever, to try to drive around, or search the internet to find a place or doctor who will agree to treat you...it's really difficult to believe this is actually happening ! When another neighbor passed last week, it was like a terrible nightmare and I'd wake up and it would be over. Now, after calling Sen. Rand Paul a liar over and over, we find out Fauci is actually the liar all this time...and deep down most of us KNEW didn't we... that the NIH most certainly funded GOF research. Yet publicly, very publicly, over and over, Fauci said, Sen. Paul, quite frankly you are a liar ! ?

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M. G.'s avatar

myfreedoctor.com I got the Ivermectin for prophylaxis, and when I got sick he immediately prescribed the rest. Spread the word! People are struggling trying to get these life-saving medications.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

The most bizarre thing that has happened, happened early, and even now I find it astonishing:

These events are important because they show that this is not now--and has never been--a pandemic of the unvaccinated. It has always been a pandemic of the untreated.

Virology Journal in 2005 reported that HCQ was effective at stopping SARS. (In 2005 there was only one SARS virus. When covid hit, the original SARS was renamed to SARS-Cov1 and the new virus was named SARS-Cov2 which we now refer to as just "covid".) So it makes sense that when covid hit, doctors who read the journals would try HCQ. Many did and some started doing small trials. These small trials looked promising, so in the Spring of 2020, the NIH set up and fully funded a large, nationwide, double blind, placebo controlled study (Radomized Controled Trial or RCT) to test HCQ and Azithromycin used in combination to treat covid outpatients early in the disease. The study centers were set up, medicines and placebos were purchased, it was all set to go, but what happened next was unprecedented.

In May 2020, The Lancet, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, abandoned all their editorial standards and published a FAKE study (unprecedented) that was based on FAKE non-existent data that concluded HCQ doesn't work and is dangerous. (It’s actually one of the safest drugs around, been used for 65 years, and is safer than aspirin or tylenol). After the FAKE study in The Lancet, the media went crazy, telling everyone HCQ is dangerous and ridiculing Trump for talking about it. (How did we ever end up politicizing a disease!?) And the NIH canceled their fully funded RCT (unprecedented).

But some researchers thought the data in the FAKE study looked suspicious, so they requested to see the dataset from the company that provided it (Surgisphere). The company refused to release the data, so The Lancet issued a retraction in July 2020 (unprecedented). But the damage had been done. (These two articles in The Lancet, the original FAKE study which appeared in May, and the retraction of the May article which appeared in July can be found online in pubMed. I've looked at them.)

There are some obvious questions here:

1) Who paid Surgisphere to create FAKE data that they sent to researchers in Massachusetts?

2) Why did The Lancet abandon all of their editorial standards and publish this FAKE study, and who was behind that? Normally they verify the data, verify the authors of the study, then send it out for independent peer review, and only then after it's passed all those checks, they publish. None of that was done for this FAKE study.

3) Why did the NIH cancel the fully funded RCT that was already underway based on just one article in The Lancet, and on a group of hospital patients when their own study was for covid outpatients?

4) Why didn't the NIH restart the study when The Lancet published a retraction of the original article?

5) Why aren't the CEO and employees at Surgisphere who generated the FAKE data in jail for fraud?

These are interesting questions, but the bottom line is the FAKE study in The Lancet resulted in the NIH RCT getting canceled, an RCT which would have proved that HCQ works against covied if started early. (There are now 290 published studies that show HCQ works against covid.) As a result of the NIH RCT getting canceled, millions of people have died unecessarily. We would be done with covid by now if that NIH study had been completed, and millions of deaths would have been avoided.

Covid has never been a pandemic of the unvaccinated. It has always been a pandemic of the untreated.

One little side note: HCQ had been over the counter for decades in France. French people often go to the tropics on holiday and sometimes come back with malaria, so HCQ was available over the counter. But now HCQ is prescription only in France (something that rarely--if ever--happens, a drug that's OTC goes back to being prescription only). Guess when France changed HCQ from being OTC to being prescription only?

Wait for it....

January 2020

That's not a typo. January 2020, only a month or two after covid appeared on the global scene.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

You are so right in your particulars.

Per several articles in TCW (The Conservative Woman, a U.K. online publication) by Edmund Fordham, a U.K. originated study, funded I think by the Wellcome Trust, second only in size to the BMGF, and chaired by a knight of the realm who also sits on SAGE, the advisory group which is effectively running U.K.

This study used deliberately excessive doses of HCQ, close to acutely lethal overdoses.

The study found HCQ ineffective & dangerous: 25% of covid19 in-patients died.

This was murder with malice aforethought.

It is an example of pure evil which hovers around all the time.

Truly evil people are running this global crime against humanity & it’s worst than the Holocaust.

The only plausible explanation for all this is that the objective is far more important to the perpetrators than the hundreds of thousands killed by toxic “vaccines” & the destruction of the modern economy together with immolation of most sovereign currencies.

That objective is, I believe, MASS DEPOPULATION.

I have been sure of this for a year, which is why I abandoned everything including family in the ultimately quixotic attempt to emigrate to the USA, to help keep Florida open through winter.

I believe if that can be done & boosters held off, the world might yet be saved.

If Florida goes under, the evil perpetrators will succeed.

Obviously I cannot prove my allegations, but not a thing is inconsistent with it.

And no competing narrative exists. Not even close.

Only “policy error followed by cover up” or “nasty pharma making money” have been offered & they’re evidently wrong.

Does anyone have an alternative proposed interpretation?

If not, then somehow we MUST find ways to communicate this shocking discovery to the people.

In terms of means, I’ve long suspected gene-based vaccines. Boosters I mean. The first generation vaccines carried toxicity as a big not a feature.

If the goal was simply VaxPass based totalitarian tyranny, they could have used saline.

I conclude they NEEDED to use this technology for the denouement.

Georgia Guidestones on my mind.

Best wishes,

Dr Mike Yeadon

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

"In terms of means, I’ve long suspected gene-based vaccines"

DARPA seems to have been involved in both Moderna/mRNA and bat-bourne viri.

This short video of Fauci on mRNA shots strikes me *just* like the PNAC "Rebuilding America's Defenses" quote, that in order to drive the success of the defense industry into the 21st century, there would need to be a "catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor". In it, Rick Bright says they need "an urgent call for something that's completely disruptive." Michael Specter says right out "Why don't blow the system up?"

https://rumble.com/vnd86v-fauci-mrna-vaccines-and-the-connection-to-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology.html

"Moderna: A Company “In Need Of A Hail Mary”" Moderna: A Company “In Need Of A Hail Mary” https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/moderna-a-company-in-need-of-a-hail-mary/

"Bats, Gene Editing and Bioweapons: Recent DARPA Experiments Raise Concerns Amid Coronavirus Outbreak" https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

"Leaked docs show DARPA considered funding $14mn project to infect Chinese bats with altered coronaviruses in 2018" https://www.rt.com/usa/535555-darpa-funding-bat-coronavirus-project-china/

WRT various arguments as to "why?" -People who believe it's just about money are suffering the cognitive dissonance that a normal, rational person would. It's like "The Big Lie." It's too monstrous for regular people to contemplate. They haven't studied the elite well enough or for long enough to allow room for motives other than money. The elite live life as a zero-sum game, and their religion is game-theory. When you're among the ultra-elite, and you have more money and power than you could ever use, you turn your attention toward depriving everyone else of those things. They're following plans their great great grand parents laid down. They're often subject to intensely dehumanizing abuse as children to rid them of any semblance of a soul, so in some regard, they're only a small cog in the machine themself. At any rate, I believe the current generation of elite are too lazy and stupid, and that will be their undoing. They leapt before looking. They will probably bring the system down, but I doubt they'll succeed in rebuilding it to their specification. The dollar is going to fail one way or another, as it was designed to do. We can all just cooperate and drop dead, or we can use the opportunity to take our world back while they hide out on their private islands and in their underground bunkers.

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LP934's avatar

I'm quite limited in my full understanding of all this; but I agree fully that there is (and was) always an elite running things. My puzzlement still is WHY? Why are humans such? Is it an unending dance by (the few) reaching for Freedom (on behalf of all); and (another few) grasping for Authority over all? The Authoritarian-Freedom divide sits in all of us, and manifests all over the place (in front of the TV, at school board meetings, in voting patterns). It just gets really nasty when (too much) Money/Power is added to the mix?

And a solution? "Small and Local"? As in small and local government; small and local businesses; etc. Maybe, like alcoholics, humans just have to choose to not go near Big Money/Power, because we know that road only leads to catastrophes that are unfolding right now before our very eyes?

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

As for what motivates the upper elites, I'm afraid my own conclusions are not always welcome. There is a group of people, who can only be described as a cult, who often interpret religious texts to believe in their inherent superiority and chosen-ness, they are taught as children that the very concept of humanity is their exclusive domain. This group represents what have been the richest, most powerful people on earth for centuries. One spiritual leader said of the outsider "(they) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve... Why are they needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," His remarks were met, not with condemnation, but with laughter. The motto of their intelligence service is "By way of deception, thou shalt wage war"

For the vast majority, the problem is the education system. Here's a short summary: "The Origins of the American Public Education System: Horace Mann & the Prussian Model of Obedience" https://youtu.be/HZp7eVJNJuw and a more in depth version: "Examples of Educated People" - John Taylor Gatto on CSPAN in 2009 - Free State Project" https://youtu.be/WpycMRTBrfY

People collude for survival and acceptance. In some cases they collude for food. I think the TV series "The Strain" did a very good job illustrating a hypothetical crisis, and the many working parts and mentality of conspiracy, collusion, and rule by deception.

I think your right on both counts, we have to treat the colluders and the obedient around us as addicts, and we have to live independently. The brainwashed are worthy of empathy, and help when the situation dictates, but you also need to be weary of trusting them, and to be prepared to exclude them from your life if need be. We would ideally set up our own parallel community based economies, which will be necessary after the collapse of the dollar, but in this moment we need to vote *with* our dollars. People are reluctant to alter their lifestyles, but small changes would have made a huge difference just 2 years ago. Something as little as switching from a bank to a local credit union, if everyone had done that, that one action would have completely neutralized the power of the ruling elite. It can still make a difference. Most can't go without store-bought food, but you can buy generic, and use BDS lists to avoid certain brands. Ice Age Farmer has a YouTube channel and a forum for people to learn how to grow food, and to build communities. You can have your phone repaired, and use it for 2 or 3 years or more instead of getting a new one every year. You can go the cord-cutting route with your TV. They may sound like trivial or superficial things, but the more people who disconnect, the more we starve the beast, and the more power we deprive them of.

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Sabracatracha's avatar

I believe this is the cult you speak of. https://www.bahai.org/

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Vic LePanto's avatar

The reason the financial angle appeals to me is that not everyone needs to make money for it to explain things. The main players only need the prospect of making money. If they think that prospect is there, they will push the politicians to push their products and in return will recycle a portion of their revenues as political contributions. The politicians effectively get taxpayer funded kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies.

The difficulty I have with the "they want us all dead" hypothesis is that so far the vax doesn't seem to be all that effective in killing on a mass scale. Also, some governments have shown at least some caution, e.g., the suspension of Moderna for teenagers and the U.S. FDA's reluctance to approve boosters for most people. So what am I missing? Is there some secret time released ingredient set to kill off the population over a period of a few years?

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I don’t regard the first generation vaccines as the killing tool. In fact, serious adverse events are a problem. They could have avoided this, so why didn’t they?

I’ve of course only considered biotech as a force for good.

But if you wish to harm or kill, it’s incredibly powerful.

So I suspect boosters will he the lethal mechanism.

I so badly wish to be wrong.

Mind you, even if that isn’t what they do, totalitarian tyranny via VaxPass isn’t much better at an individual level.

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Vic LePanto's avatar

I absolutely agree about the tyranny. Here is some typical language from an American vaccination record (this specific language is from a Walgreen's pharmacy):

"I hereby give my consent to Walgreens or Duane Reade and the licensed healthcare professional administering the vaccine, as applicable (each an “applicable Provider”), to administer the vaccine(s) I have requested above. I understand that it is not possible to predict all possible side effects or complications associated with receiving vaccine(s). I understand the risks and benefits associated with the above vaccine(s) and have received, read and/or had explained to me the EUA Fact Sheet on the vaccine(s) I have elected to receive. I also acknowledge that I have had a chance to ask questions and that such questions were answered to my satisfaction. * * * On behalf of the patient, the patient’s heirs and personal representatives, I hereby release and hold harmless each applicable Provider, its staff, agents, successors, divisions, affiliates, subsidiaries, officers, directors, contractors and employees from any and all liabilities or claims whether known or unknown arising out of, in connection with, or in any way related to the administration of the vaccine(s) listed above. "

Mandates and "VaxPass" requirements are completely antithetical to such language. They throw it straight out the window. And yet that language remains in the consent forms. It is a farce. Were I ever in a position of having to take a Covid vaccine under extreme duress, I would cross out this language and insert that I am not consenting but merely submitting to the demands of another under penalty of [insert loss here], and that I release no one from any claims or liabilities.

I'd be interested to see how that goes. I bet they'd refuse to jab me.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

"So I suspect boosters will he the lethal mechanism." READ: The West's Obituary*

Right now the Chinese are furiously working in their biolabs, as are a whole host of other nefarious nations, such as North Korea and likely Iran. What are they working on?

...An adversary that develops a virus (e.g. another modified/mutated bat virus, for example) that selectively targets ADE in people with the specific antibodies from vaccination, which are distinct from natural infection, could easily kill every single person who was vaccinated and not harm or only make mildly sick those who either had Covid-19 naturally or who were uninfected and unvaccinated....

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241577

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Richard Seager's avatar

We don't need to look to Iranians or Turks (they invented the Pfizer mRNA 'vaccine') or the Chinese (they invented the Moderna & Astro Zeneca 'vaccines') because we can look instead at our own elites who have decided to dispose of the middle classes of the Western nations.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

My understanding is that when China "gave" ventilators & PPEs to poor countries, payment was required in the dorm of dna databases. They also have supposedly purchased the databases of 23&me & luke companies. Nothing says that boosters or next year's delta vax won't ve targeted against spe ifix subpopulations.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Good one. Thanks. There are more ways to do this than pebbles on a beach.

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Trblmkr's avatar

I understand your reluctance to believe they want us all dead. I wish I had time for a long response, but I don't. Instead, I suggest you check out the book, "The Great Reset," by Klaus Schwab, the Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum (WEF). He lays out the plan, plainly, and it is easy to see the steps we have already traveled as well as where they plan to herd us.

It's absolute insanity, yet likely true.

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Karl's avatar

I suggest an alternative interpretation that we are in a holiness spiral.

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Elizabeth Sonner's avatar

Good interpretation

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Jessica's avatar

The entire purpose is every human must be marked for the great reset. Or dead. The vaccine has the infrastructure in it. The currency will be reset to cbdc after we suffer through a collapse. Starting this winter I believe. Once everyone dies through various different means like enforced poverty, rolling power outages, lack of healthcare, the vaccine, taliban refugee terrorist attacks etc, the remaining people will be very reliant on them. This will also help them to bankrupt or kill the people who own the land they want. The agenda 2030 map shows exactly what they want the country to look like in the end. They use “legal” methods of eradication (bankruptcy) with illegal methods in the background. This is not some haphazard plan. This is a global takeover that has been in the works ever since we have had royalty.

All the major bloodlines are involved. Rothchilds, astors, Collins etc. These families are very powerful. Some have the legal field locked down with generations of lawyers, judges, Supreme Court. Other bloodlines are on the healthcare side. The UN was formed from the Lucifer trust. Many of these people hold/held conflicring positions. Scott gottlieb worked for the fda and on the board of Pfizer. Same with Stephan Han (fda and Moderna). James smith (Reuters & pfizer) You’ll see a n onslaught of ridiculous reporting and fAcTcHeCkInG from Reuters these days.

I pray their plan will fail. I believe that they were on track with this plan since Obama won. But they did not see trump coming and actually winning. If you remember during trumps run, the media did EXACTLY what it has done with covid. Run non stop 24/7 propaganda against him. Every “news outlet” called him a joke and he had no chance. They thought they had it in the bag. This gives me hope that their plan was delayed, then frantically put into motion once he was out. That’s why we are seeing errors which normally wouldn’t happen. Like Fauci not getting the memo in the beginning about why they want the cattle marked with masks.

Their goal isn’t just depopulation and tagging. They also want the people to worship them. Kings are apart of our entire human civilization because man loves being worshipped. There is far more detail to be had in the Bible. Even if you don’t believe, “they” absolutely do and have detailed their plans numerous times to fake a second coming of Christ and complete their world domination plans.

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Jessica's avatar

I’d also like to add that these people have deep roots in devil worshipping. I personally believe this is a battle between Gods people (us innocent people) and Satan. One of the bloodlines here is absolutely kidnapping, torturing and sacrificing children. And the other powerful bloodlines cover for one another. I also fully believe that they want to kill Jesus’s bloodline by changing our dna into this hybrid creature. And killing off those who do not comply. Again, it’s detailed in the book of Revelation and that is their script.

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Nikolai Vladivostok's avatar

Why does the 'greedy pharma' theory seem wrong to you? It explains why cheap, early treatments are demonized - to push expensive vaccines and other new treatments. As another comment explains, those outside pharma like politicians, media etc. still stand to gain indirectly, financially and through increased power. The wealth and control of the elite class has increased significantly over the last two years from all the counterproductive Covid measures, not just vaccines. It's a big club, etc.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I don’t doubt it’s true. That’s not my point.

My point is that GREEDY PHARMA IS A WHOLLY INADEQUATE EXPLANATION for the absence of action from stakeholders in other sectors.

They’ve all been silent. They approve.

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Ggbj's avatar

They all serve evil

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LP934's avatar

I agree. "Making pots of money" was a first waypoint for me; but it just wasn't satisfying as a full (enough) answer - as these people had plenty money and power already

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Gigolo Joe's avatar

Granted, it's a philosophical issue, but there's no reason the rich can't both be fabulously rich *and* preside over a perfect world. There are enough resources, enough technology, and enough creative, ingenious, sane and rational people to make earth a paradise. Moderna and Pfizer aren't just big greedy companies, they're branches of even bigger, greedier entities like Blackrock and Vanguard. BR & VG are asset managers for the world's richest families. When you get to the top, there are only around a thousand people calling the shots. Their worldview is radically different than ours. Their motives are different. They've been told from birth that the world and all its inhabitants were put there for them to do as they wish. You couldn't pay me a million dollars to live in the head of one of these grotesque monsters.

As a thought experiment, take any one of these people, or, say, Oprah Winfrey or Bill Gates. Just a handful of these people could eradicate world hunger, pollution, war, and injustice, and not even put a dent in their bottom line. Seriously, look up just how little money actually goes into congressional lobbying. They have the money, they certainly have the power, yet they pretend to be impotent. They blame *humanity*. It's *their* companies who cause all the environmental damage and political chaos, but it's their customers who take the blame. They're happy for us to fight amongst each other over petty, artificial divides. They shear us for profits, they distribute *their* losses amongst the poor, then goad the fools into whining about Communism. They wind us up and we go.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Nikolai, the primary reason cheap early treatments have been discredited is because BigPharma could not have secured the emergency use authorizations that granted them immunity from all liability while safe and effective alternatives existed. And yes, the pharmaceutical corporations are raking in fortunes, but that does appear secondary to long-term goals such as mass depopulation and one-world tyranny over the humans who survive the democide (kept around as slaves to service the robots performing all other necessary functions ;-)

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Abner Knight's avatar

Nothing to do with money. They have all the money. They're trophy hunting.

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Freethinker321's avatar

I 100% agree that depopulation is the end goal. Money for big pharm and DC insiders is just a bonus.

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VeryVer's avatar

How do we know the actual ingredients of the vaxes? Is it proprietary?

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Richard Seager's avatar

Various governments have put up the ingredients. For example one ingredient is 22% of the vaccine and is hidden for commercial reasons from Americans. But you can find it elsewhere, it's sterilized water. I figure they might 'sterilize' it with graphene oxide but that's just a guess.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Pfizer. Sounds like 'fights her'.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

This has been a crime against humanity and no one will ever be held accountable.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

absolutely. The people behind this are guilty of mass murder. There is no other way to put it.

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Elizabeth Sonner's avatar

Next life

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pimaCanyon's avatar

maybe the next several lives!

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B Seidem's avatar

Oh yes, the Lord God will burn ALL those who deliberately faked this whole episode. Even tho He allowed it, they'll burn just like Hitler and the SS are now but in His own time.

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Jo Highet's avatar

Ivermectin faced a similar fate, as an off-patent drug with no money to be made, relative to the far more profitable and far less effective Remdesivir. There is a report that outlines the difference in how the medical establishment chose to approve one, but not the other, using far lesser standards for Remdesivir. Had the same standard been applied to Ivermectin, well, let’s just say we’d have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Oh, and no EUA authorized bio-chemical injections either. Last tid bit; Remdesivir was approved for use under EUA authorization in early 2020 as well....before anyone knew much of Covid at all.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

you're right about IVM. IVM probably an even better drug than HCQ because it seems to help at all stages of the disease whereas HCQ seems to work best at the early stages and not so well at later stages. Both HCQ and IVM are very safe--safer than aspirin, tylenol, and ibuprofen--and have been in use for decades. They knew they couldn't get away with another FAKE study to "prove" that IVM doesn't work, so they've just been lying about it and ridiculing it as Horse medicine. The sad thing is that people who watch & listen to only mainstream media actually believe it! So their disinformation campaign is working. And more people are dying whose deaths could be avoided with these safe effective treatments.

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B Seidem's avatar

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Edmund Exley's avatar

The root cause of the HCQ madness, and all the rest of it, was to stop trump from being reelected. Everything stems from that

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pimaCanyon's avatar

I think it was BOTH to stop HCQ from being used as a treatment (because if a treatment exists, FDA cannot give EUA to a vaccine) AND it also served as a weapon against Trump. So the media ate it up because as we all know the mainstream media (except for Fox) hated Trump even before he was inaugurated.

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faithful READER's avatar

WOW !! Would love to see the study design. All I can find are INPATIENT studies for SEVERE COVID by NIH. Do you have a link to the original proposal ?

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pimaCanyon's avatar

not sure who you're asking and what you're asking for, but here's the 2005 report from Virology Journal about HCQ working against SARS. I'll look for the others)

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69

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pimaCanyon's avatar

okay, one more reply, then I'll shut up! If you have looked for the canceled NIH study on the NIH website and are not finding it, I strongly suspect that they just scrubbed it. There was a quote by Fauci about HCQ being like a vaccine for SARS--forget the exact wording--referring to the study done in 2005 that was reported in Virology Journal, and they took that down. These ghouls have deliberately caused the deaths of millions. They would have no qualms about deleting something from their website that might make them look bad.

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faithful READER's avatar

Thank you pimaCanyon for all your responses. The details of the study design might be as interesting as the DRASTIC report. Someone who might want to summarize all the HCQ studies to date might also be interested in a comparison to the cancelled outpatient HCQ study. And thank you EUGYPPIUS for your fabulous article that generated all this discussion !

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faithful READER's avatar

Found it: NCT04358068 Looks like something went very wrong. Cancelled for "lack of enthusiasm" ? Looks like a reasonable design. Only enrolled 20 out of 2000 participants ? What is your take on this ?

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pimaCanyon's avatar

ah... okay, I see you're asking about the RCT to test HCQ and Azithromycin on covid outpatients. I have to confess that that study was described by Dr. Peter McCullough and I took his word for it. I did not follow up with my own research. After I found the fake study and retraction published in The Lancet, that was enough for me, I decided Dr. McCullough knew what he was talking about. Probably be good to have a link to the NIH study that was canceled due to the FAKE study published in The Lancet in May 2020. People want references!

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The Wiltster's avatar

Mind boggling and disturbing. We have known for a long time that what Washington said was true, "Few men have the virtue to withstand the highest bidder." What we, or maybe I, did not know or expect, is that so many people who do not benefit in *any* financial way are willing to carry water for . . . them.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

I agree; a truly sad commentary on the character of so many. Most people have no clue about the invaluable contributions George Washington gave to our country. Many of the Founding Fathers were exceptional, but he stands at the head of that group of citizens. We were blessed, but it appears we are giving up the things they gave us.

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Ann Banisher's avatar

I think you are correct but have it backwards. The powers that be in government isn’t beholden to big pharma, I think big pharma is doing the bidding of TPTB.

All this theater is not about making money, it’s about concentrating power. All the big boys in tech, business, and culture may get the money, but the puppet masters behind the scenes are accumulating power.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

I believe you are right; Big Pharma (and government officials) are doing the bidding of The Powers That Be. Who are TPTB? When you consider that 190 countries around the world, all of them but 3, proceeded to lock down their economies at the same time. That means someone (TPTB?) was coordinating the global response to the plandemic. Yes, pandemic; i.e. this was all planned, not by small-time government officials, but by Globalists, led by the WHO, to destroy economies around the world, all at the same time. Research will lead to the reasons behind this effort, but our government/healthcare officials are small fry in this effort, whether motivated by money, blackmail, keeping their jobs, or whatever, are not smart enough to have planned this global debacle. Power is the goal, no question, but along with that power comes untold enrichment. Both are what "they" are striving for, and we, the little people, are the farthest things from their concern.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

The Wiltster, I analyze some of the motivations behind collusion in my Letter to a Colluder: Stop Enabling Tyranny (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-colluder-stop-enabling) partly based on my analysis of primary texts such as interviews with Nazis and soldiers who participated in massacres during WWII. Money is a negligible motivator for most. Fear, indoctrination, peer pressure, the desire for belonging, and cowardice are just a few of the many factors involved in the highly complex but all-too-common practice of collusion.

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LP934's avatar

Thanks. So would you say the "colluders" are (and always have been) the middle 80-90% who will always be swayed (as we can see irrespective of intelligence) per one or more of those characteristics? And 5-10% (Freedom Fighters) will always see the bluff and try to call it; while the other 5-10% (Elite & Elite wannabees) will want to round up and silence the "dissidents"?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

kittytamer, that sounds like a reasonable analysis, although I think the percentage of elites (at least the string-pullers orchestrating the narrative; the wannabe elites are really just part of the colluders group and aren’t aware of the nefarious goals) is far smaller. And, fortunately, the freedom fighters may be a higher percentage. If we go by Professor Mattias Desmet’s explanation of mass formation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5bo_KFqgo), he estimates that 30% of the population is resistant to mass hypnosis. That doesn’t mean all of them will be part of the resistance, but anyone with courage and a conscience should lean in that direction.

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grayesun's avatar

Are you implying "cult" behavior...nah, couldn't be that...

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Yes, a threat & a bribe will work for most. Quite small amounts are enough for many.

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schnides14's avatar

When my dad was beginning his career in pediatrics in the early '80s, he made a point of bringing his own lunch to pharma presentations (attendance was mandatory) and sitting front and center as he made a show of enjoying his sandwich and apple while the rest of the docs gorged on the *complimentary* food!!

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Suzanne's avatar

Have you seen “The Fugitive” with Harrison Ford? I think they make movies about what’s really going on in the world, in this case Pharma, and we’re supposed to think it’s fiction. It’s all there for us to see if we would only recognize it.

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Brian Dougan's avatar

Re *The Fugitive*--Saw it in 1993. Will have to watch it again; with new eyes. Thx for the tip. :)

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Ann Marie's avatar

I know what you mean by "with new eyes".... the first of the some 14 times I've watched Dr. Zhivago I was young, and thought it was a "love story"...LOL !

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LP934's avatar

Great movie - I had to watch it 3 times before I could follow the plot!!! Sigh

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Ann Marie's avatar

Not many like that these days, what a shame !

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watchingtheweasels's avatar

What's really concerning is that "and everything to do with making money for Big Pharma" is the least evil explanation for what they are doing.

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Mike Sweeten's avatar

People insisting that $$ are driving this are way off base. This is ideological which history shows to be much more powerful. Collectivistism vs Individualism. This is a collectivist uprising. Driven by anxiety from social isolation and a decline in the old collectives. Individualists (aka unvax'd) are in the crosshairs, as always. It's Collectivistism vs Covid, and they have to win, or give the appearance of winning. They'll then leverage that "victory" to battling climate change. Make no mistake. Defeating covid or climate change is not the objective. Collectivistism is the objective.

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Mike H's avatar

You're right about the people at the top who formulated the plan and are running the show -- they have so much $$$ they don't need or want more. What they do want is CONTROL over the global population and remaking civilization according to their collectivist vision. But they are happily assisted by greedy billionaire wanna-bees, such as Big Pharma CEO's and government bureaucrats hoping for jobs with Big Pharma, who are primarily motivated by greed.

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Mike Sweeten's avatar

But this isn't just people at the top. This is a citizen movement. Collectivists are all around us. They're family members and friends. It's ideological. It's a lot like a massive religious movement, only It's not religion per se. It's Universal Secular Collectivism. We should view like a communist revolution. Anxiety in the present with the vision and hope of a collectivised utopian future.

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LP934's avatar

I really do wonder what the Big Tech / Pharma / Media colluder wannabees were offered? I mean, you already have more billions and power than you know what to do with. Maybe it's the "belonging" aspect @Margaret Anna Alice raised previously? What could be more enticing for them than a seat at a "higher table" in the Elite governing systems? A promise to get closer to the Source; to be part of a more inner circle?

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Richard Seager's avatar

Fear of losing everything is also a motivating factor. 12 trillion or so has been printed by the US in the last 12/13 years, Japan and the UK have been doing it as well & probably a few others. There is no way that is sustainable. Also Blackstone et al have been buying up lower socio-economic housing, I guess they need a place to house the marginal workers (grateful to be away from poverty and tyranny of where they grew up.....) who will be on monthly leases and crap wages in this world as imagined by those who think that we all work in their favour.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Also no doubt a lot of that 'capital' is elsewhere now. China, Afghanistan. Not least because the billionaires think that the Chinese and Afghans are more compliant than you are. Chinese companies have gone from being 1 in the top 50 largest corps to about 12 or so in 8 years. That's impressive 'growth'.

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Ann Marie's avatar

And I have commented on this before, but again, I wonder if some way, some how, the strange incidents concerning illegal migrants is connected ? Woke up this morning to find the secret, middle of the night, government chartered plane flights have increased. Last night (or 4 a.m.) we had another flight to obscure airport near Jacksonville, FL, and reporter who got ONE telephoto shot may be in some difficulty. Same plane returned to Mexico and returned "dropping" a load in Springfield, Mo. ? President's spokesperson said today in briefing, it was perfectly normal ? Then added to the reporters, it may not be the flight time YOU would choose for yourself, maybe YOU avoid early flights but many people do not. What kind of answer is that ???? Just too much "murky" type of activities... constant never ending public "service" announcements about vaccine, and then fly plane loads of illegals into the country in darkness, some of whom they admit ARE already sick, and people here are loosing their careers and way to support themselves for not getting a shot ??? That is not required for hundreds of thousands of people who have poured in just this year... Nothing is making sense, not even these White House "press conferences".... it's like Alice in Wonderland, down a rabbit hole where up is down, and wrong is right ?

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Mike Sweeten's avatar

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, especially in the internet age. The key word is conspiracy, meaning it would take a lot of people working together to pull it off. Especially if the objective is overt evil, like depopulation. Someone would crack and leak the info. It couldn't stay secret. Conspiracy theories seem to be an individualist trait. I know we are incapable of the collectivists methods, but it sure would help our cause if we could unify around one explanation, strategy, slogan, etc. Collectivist all fall into line like good foot soldiers. This is why when it comes down to firing squads, they're always the ones holding the rifles.

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Ann Marie's avatar

De-population, what a thought ! There are always "leaks", always, deliberate and just "loose lips sink...... " As for rallying around one explanation, strategy, etc..... well, "we" could just turn the tables and use Alinsky's methods "ourselves" ????? People are so fearful of "looking" or being called, "crazy", "racist", "nationalistic", on and on, that they fear disassociation and looking and sounding "different" more than anything else. To fight back, and try to explain ALL the reasons you are obviously NOT a conspiracy "nut", or a "racist", is a fruitless pursuit, "they" then use that as a further "proof" of just how guilt they "offender" is. Unless, as Alinsky has pointed out, you turn about and use "their" tactics, you find yourself always on the defensive, and loosing, "side" !

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Ann Marie's avatar

A very plausible theory, really has me thinking on that one. The anxiety of social isolation (and I think this very activity I am engaging in, expressing thoughts and idea on a platform that is far from animated in person discussion), Collectivism, BINGO, that may be it, the many Marxist like subtleties.... everyone acting like the crowd in "The Emperor's New Clothes"....does all point to THE "collective", and we al know how that has always ended everywhere it has been tried !

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Mike Sweeten's avatar

What make this so different from anything in history, is it's virtual. It's collectivism while still in social isolation, but connected via social media. This is new. No historical precedent to draw from. Could be more dangerous or less. I would think less dangerous in that many are isolated and afraid to breath in public places. But maybe more dangerous in that it's easier to hold more wacky, uncontested ideas. In which case they'll just hide and vote for anything and everything authoritarian.

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B Seidem's avatar

Read "Virus Mania", Jan 2021 for the truth.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Ordered that and several others 4/5 days ago.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Right, the mass wealth transfer is less about enriching TPTB and more about disempowering the populace so they are less-equipped to resist tyranny.

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Ann Marie's avatar

I have actually talked to undergrads at university from which I retired, I am not exaggerating when I say, none I chatted with were able to articulate the definition of "liberty" (although some did say "it means being free") and "tyranny", and definitely could not articulate the differences. Ditto when discussing "capitalism" and "socialism" and "communism", they really can't articulate the definitions or differences. Good grief, we had essay questions in 8th GRADE that stated: compare and contrast the following economic systems: capitalism, socialism, communism. Maybe parents should get more involved in CURRICULUM development, someone (the professionals ? ) are failing in that department !

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Robert's avatar

I have recently found that "post-Boomers", i.e. those born later than 1964 don't recognise the phrase "Brown Shirts!" (We refer to them as "The Karens" when we see their Internet comments and replies.) I suspect that you are not allowed to say the "Na-" word in their presence . They have no knowledge of or defence against "The Big Lie", and even a 40 year old Jewish colleague does not seem to recognise the technique and programme being established.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Not me! I’m a Gen Xer and have been fully aware of this history and the dangers of totalitarianism since childhood. It is terrifying, though, how few people are these days :-(

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That is beyond terrifying. I weep for the present :-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkcmOyXcLZw

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Ann Marie's avatar

Yep, I know the movie and line.... when he said I weep for the future.. LOL !

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Brian Dougan's avatar

Sorry--Had to Google "TPTB." The Powers that Be. Though it might be some sort of government organization. :) So many acronyms; hard to keep up.

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Mike H's avatar

Today I DDG'd (Duck-duck-goed) LGB when I saw it without the T. It now stands for Let's Go Brandon. Yes, it can be hard to keep up.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Next thing you know it will be Lets go Brandon, Trevor, Queenie, Irene ++

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Ann Marie's avatar

yes I agree... LOL ! Then wondered if it is "recorded" that I "googled" what might be an "unacceptable" acronym ! Like pronouns, I always considered myself a well educated, informed person, but I am loosing trace of the section in my old college grammar text on "pronouns" ! Sorry to see ATEA/Roche 3rd stage trials are NOT showing success !

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I find money completely unsatisfying as an explanation. Because most sectors are losing money hand over fist.

The organisation implied by any deception no matter the motive requires those stakeholders who are losing out financially to be supportive of the policy. Also those stakeholders include the banks.

While money is being made in some sectors, money cannot be the motive.

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Covid Curious's avatar

I find both money and death both unsatisfying answers.

The one that stands out to me is "control." This is about controlling us. We are being disciplined for control. The vaccine is the vehicle. There are "rewards" (retain ur job) and "punishments" (get fired) in the making of the vaccine decision.

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Mike H's avatar

It still gets back to death because they've determined it's too difficult to control 7 billion + people. They need to cull the herd to less than half a billion to make things manageable, and to placate the climate change fanatics in their ranks.

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Covid Curious's avatar

Perhaps.

The current reality reminds me of the Squid Game (on Netflix). 100's of deplorables sign-up to survive to win money, or die. Almost like taking the vaccine, take the vaxx to continue earning money or die of starvation. Choose. It's disgusting.

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Ann Marie's avatar

yes, a very "creepy" series/movie... and what makes it worse is how many of these things (books, movies) like Camp of the Saints, many others like Soylent Green, that nightmare film, and how it was just SOOOO far out... chilling

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Agreed. Transferring trillions from the middle-class/small businesses to the oligarchy is a side perk to a far more sinister agenda.

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Franky Frank's avatar

Power and control os motive. Globalists have unlimited lmost supply of money. They are finance system.

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Mike Sweeten's avatar

It's ideological. Collectivism vs Individualism. History is quite clear on this. It's citizen driven.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Collectivism maybe for the 100 or so families running the show (if there's that many). But it ain't collectivism for the rest of us. Maybe what we're seeing is a capitalist version of the Russian Revolution (albeit that too sounds rigged).

Strange how the Anthropocene turned into the Anthro obscene so quickly.

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Covid Curious's avatar

Hmmm...for over 99% of recorded human history, most of mankind were slaves / serfs / servants / etc... The rising middle class and "freedom" that came with the turn of the 21st century was/is an outlier event. Perhaps we are reverting back to the historical norm of enslavement.

I have found most other answers unsatisfying.

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Richard Seager's avatar

History is written by the winners. The last 100 years will very likely be written differently than any of us would recognize in a few hundred years. How can we know that this is not the norm?

The first thing that we need to do is to imagine a better future. And insist on it.

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Covid Curious's avatar

Yes no doubt. I do insist on a brighter future (bc i have kids), and I'm rooted in the reality. As I quant, I am greatly bothered bc history "repeats" itself which means it has a tendency to revert. But, alas, for my children, I have hope. Every day I make it a point NOT to wear my mask in CA. I do this with the aim of encouraging strength in others to stand up to the madness. :-)

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Brian Mowrey's avatar

Most or our cosmopolitan elites think they _are_ "them."

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The Wiltster's avatar

Point taken! Is it just me, or does anyone else just shake their head when a person, living in the U.S., who is "rich" using almost any worldwide rubric, suggests that we "eat the rich." Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful seasoning.

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Richard Seager's avatar

If this is the 3 lettered Senator you're talking about then I've also heard that she did not know what a G&T was recently. So I guess she was a barperson for what, 2 minutes? Fake is kind of an overused word these days but it seems appropriate for her.

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Ann Marie's avatar

how very true, it would seem impossible (yet it obviously IS possible) for the "masses" to have not thought more deeply about the total picture, not just separate "snapshots". I am not totally for, nor totally against, any and all vaccinations, just astounded that people do not begin to think about the constant bombardment of commercials for ALL kinds of vaccinations; vaccinate our children for possible CANCER the commercials say, with a TEEN saying "WHY mom and dad did you not love me enough to get me vaccinated ? Constant commercials for people to get vaccinated for shingles, and reminding ALL people who had chickenpox they are prime targets, and SO MANY MORE. Now not just the "flu" shots, but they are on with commercials about the a super flue shot, "get this new one NOW"..... I guess this shows my age, but when I was a kid no one dared "advertise" that people go to their doctor NOW and ask for certain medicines. No one even seems to have noticed this has not always been the standard. Rx medications were NOT something YOU were told to go to the doctor and REQUEST ????

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DC Lovell's avatar

The media is happy to take the advertising dollars. Makes them partners in this fraud. All of them.

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DC Lovell's avatar

Thomas Sowell's book Vision of the Anointed could explain most of this.

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schnides14's avatar

There's a brilliant bit in the introduction to one of Sowell's more recent (I think) books, in which he reminisces about a talk he gave at some Aspen summit, only to watch as the next speaker—a well-heeled young white academic—flew to the stage and told the audience to dismiss everything they'd just heard: Sowell, after all, does not speak to the Black experience.

I think they hate him so much because he beat them at their own game without ever becoming a lackey to their insidious, ever-shifting Cause™️, and that scares the sh*t out of them.

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DC Lovell's avatar

He is more of a threat today than ever. To me he is the greatest practical / data driven philosopher of all time.

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cabystander's avatar

"Of all time" is a big statement, but in this case not too much hyperbole.

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Ann Marie's avatar

Agree ! !

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DC Lovell's avatar

A young Thomas Sowell versus a Blue Blooded female on Firing Line. Fabulous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y021WAdUlW8

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Heyjude's avatar

Just re-read Vision of the Anointed. I read it when it was first published, but of course then it did not resonate as it does now. Cannot recommend it highly enough.

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K Field's avatar

Purchasing. TY

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SomeChick's avatar

It is indeed alarming and frightening. Two of my physicians, PCP and neurologist, retired in 2019 and 2020. I have a valid medical exemption and must obtain M.D. signature/explanation to keep my job. My new PCP who is just 2 years post-residency admitted that the Board of Medicine is breathing down their necks and that "this is a tough situation" and "due to the current climate" he and a young neurologist who barely know me are refusing to support me. The neurologist stated there is no contraindication to my receiving these injections. These young M.D.'s must know that "one size fits all" is not how medicine is practiced, yet, that is exactly what they are doing in order to keep THEIR jobs. Incidentally, I work remotely and my employer said it is unlikely that remote workers will be exempt from mandatory "vaccination". Makes perfect sense, right?

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Susan: I couldn't be more heartbroken for your situation; I sincerely hope things work out for you in the end. Please try to let us know (through this thread, if you have time) if/when things get better for you. Good luck and take care.

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Ann Marie's avatar

OMG... MANDATE for people who work at home alone ! This is getting downright "spooky" (and Halloween is near !) It makes as much sense as the people you see driving alone, in their own cars, with MASKS on, and even one I saw in the grocery parking lot with the routine fast food handling disposable masks TAPED over the dash vents ! Honest ! Nice looking, rather new car, I'm sure the ventilation system would be working fine but... ?

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DC Lovell's avatar

That is awful. Hopefully you can string it out until it becomes more than apparent the vaccines are a joke.

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SomeChick's avatar

Thanks. I'm hopeful. I could try for a religious exemption (although I'm not particularly holy or a "believer") but I'm hearing that companies will say they "accept" these exemptions and then turn around and tell the employee that they cannot "accommodate" them in any position with such an exemption. It's a trap.

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Lori S's avatar

I'm so sorry! 🙏🙏. Hope you are able to find other physicians. PCPs aren't too bad to find (just to find out kind). But even a human neurologist is challenging without CV-19 to take into account. The number of neurologists I've had to go to just for my migraines..... phew! That would give ANYONE a migraine.

Top problems:

EGO, pushing Pharma drugs, EGO, doing drugs, EGO, making you want to do drugs, EGO.....

I finally found a PCP that even decided to treat me instead. Giving me the samples each month since the meds are about $1000 /injection. Keep looking, they're out there.

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Lori S's avatar

What good will their money do then, when they've killed everyone? At that point it's worthless, just paper or a sparkly paperweight. They won't have ANYONE around to make the food, synthetic or not, fly them anywhere, or do the "menial" things they, heaven forbid, would even know how to attempt.

The one thing their "elite" inbred evil cabal brain has forgotten: GOD WINS!

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Ann Marie's avatar

You know, I have now witnessed such outrageous examples of "tone deafness", it rivals the rulers of old, the Czars of Russia, the extravagance of the French courts, and so rmany more. We all witnessed many "stars" in the entertainment industry (and make no mistake, many are very quietly generous), and political "elites", who have never worked, have always made public "service" a career position, who have no idea HOW ordinary get food into their homes or freezers ( foods like ice cream, and the price of ice cream ?), they have no idea what gasoline costs (except for a few things they "heard" on TV newscast, and their drivers never talk about such things in front of them. In EVERY example in history, when these kinds of excesses have gone too far, the people have rebelled and it ended in a horrific confrontation. This may be why we have removed emphasis on history as a primary subject in free public education, and even in many colleges and universities. I also wonder about our "border problems". Has anyone read Raspail's Camp of the Saints ? I loved his works like Who Will Speak for the People, and many others I could get in English. But, back then it was recognized as "science fiction", in the line of On the Beach, and other such "some truth, some prediction" novels. But now, novels like Camp of the Saints has disappeared from every library I have checked, and to buy ONE copy now costs upward of $300. ! It's considered racist now, not some science fiction fantasy. But I have at least wondered, is there any link between the pandemic and the terrible circumstances at our borders ? Yes, "far out", I admit I don't know how the two could be linked, but it's interesting to think and talk about. Again, "maybe" one day that too will be explored about this period in time ?

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Richard Seager's avatar

Well which jobs are the potential workers from $40 a week or month wage jurisdictions going to do if there's still someone doing it for 50k or 70k or maybe even 120k a year?

Come on Ann Marie, be reasonable.

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Ann Marie's avatar

thank you, I realize I did not make it clear that I have it in my person library, along with other personal favorites by Raspail, but that is an excellent source for any who may be curious about how this book seems to have become so suddenly obscure....

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Babci's avatar

Moderna has one commercial product and will make billions of dollars this year. Name any other company that has only one product? My 8 year old grandchild's lemonade stand doesn't count...her stock is not publicly traded.

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Stoichastic's avatar

and they are already stopping its use in Nordic countries due to AE issues :-/

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Carmen Sepulveda's avatar

Ultimately, this is the CCP's fault and they are still calling the shots. Both on the lies over the initial release of this disease, (and I really believe that this was deliberate), to how to handle this outbreak. Every government agency in the federal government, including the clown masquerading as president, is taking their marching orders from the CCP. Ultimate goal, the destruction of the US economy and to inflict as much harm and death on the American people. The phlebs who are all for the mandates, and are lining up to get this experiment, might regret it one day. That they proved they are gullible and some downright stupid, is beyond question. What is questionable, is if they'll ever realize they've been had?

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Ann Marie's avatar

Your comments are deeply thought provoking on so many levels. I would be ridiculed of course, but after months of thought and analysis, even down to tracking down studies instead of simply accepting a summary or synopsis, and I do believe this was deliberate. Who, why, what has so many possible answers I have not come to any conclusion, but the possibilities are many. If I expressed possibilities, I would be called a conspiracy "nut", yet it seems like we completely ignore what even people like the woman scientist who deflected from China. What IF she is not "just trying to get media attention" ? So many signs we dismiss so easily. But all this brings up even deeper questions. So questionable that some people who died of Covid and were vaccinated, are lauded by the press, and others, perhaps of a different political party, or religion, of even culture, are "condemned" in the news as inconsiderate (they have already died !), some our president even called "UN-patriotic" ! ! ! HOW have we come to equate taking this or that medicine with being "UN-patriotic" ???? As for will they EVER realize ? Well, I have read countless books and academic articles on the plague of he middle ages. Now, living in a world wide plague in this century, I wonder often, will they be writing one day of the totally misguided beliefs about the plague as they did in the middle ages ? Among them; the plague was spread on the "evening breezes" and ONLY the evening breezes, therefore, the people were told to use any rags and materials to stuff into door and window "cracks" (remember, they did not have Pella or Anderson windows, only crude openings with possibly some oiled skin that kept out some rain), and, they were told to make sure the large gap between the crude wood door and the floor (usually 2-4 INCHES) was tightly stuffed. Later, as people gained more knowledge, they discovered that "witches" could be discovered by throwing people into deep water and watching to see if they lived or drowned !

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Richard Seager's avatar

Have to keep the horrors of the plague, as it descended on the damned, hidden from the rest of the populace. If I could go back in time I'd give the ghettoes night viewing glasses so as they could see the plague creeping up on their houses. Might make it a fairer fight.

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Robert's avatar

Giving them "Raid" and Warfarin would have been even more fun! But keep in mind that Plague killed 20-30% of the economically productive population, leading to "The Peasants' Revolt" and some sociopolitical revision. Our Coronavirus deaths are mostly among the institutionalised, despite triumphant news reports every time someone younger with very likely Vit D deficiency succumbs.

Dr David E Martin, PhD, predicts that US Social Security will become insolvent, with possible consequences in 2027-2028. I worry that the "Plandemic" might be part of the preparation to "Kick the Can Down the Road!"

In reality, Covid-19 is very survivable, and the case definitions and infection statistics are so corrupt as to be almost useless. I have not seen any reports in the financial press of undue actuarial stress on the Life Insurance Companies, unlike the beating of breasts which occurs after a hurricane, earthquake, or major forest fire with the Property and Casualty insurers.

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Richard Seager's avatar

All that and more. I no longer believe in the plague, or for that matter in plagues. Mass poisoning as in Jonestown, yes.

Deaths are up 10% or so in Europe at the moment, they might start beating some breasts soon.

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Florida Man's avatar

I think China virology lab was used as a stooge by Fauci et al and his masters. There may have been some Chinese accomplices, and likely a slew of international bag men, but my belief is that it all ultimately falls at the feet of our own bureaucracy, "benevolent" NGO health organizations and their paymasters.

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Tank Hough's avatar

That's because our public health officials and elected politicians are being paid to advance this insane approach. Follow the money.

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Joe Michels's avatar

We must counter Maximum Vaccination with Maximum Resistance. That is our only way out.

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Silverback's avatar

Let's be honest, the vaccine was a status symbol since it became available to the general public. To be vaccinated means to be well-adjusted citizen. Who wants to be on the freak end of the bell curve just to prove a point?

Moreover, if you are vaccinated, you can blame someone else if you become sick since you have done everything you were told to do. To just follow guidelines(or treatment protocols for the matter) is always less of a hassle and even more so if something goes wrong.

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Ann Marie's avatar

I admit to vaccination, but that was based on MY personal circumstances, not the opinion of others, or any of these "commercials", or being accused of NOT loving my country and my fellow man. But..... neither did I purchase any of the (often EXPENSIVE) "jewelry" to make sure everyone knew. I think it is absolutely obscene to purchase jewelry, some of it of KARAT gold, to "brag" on a shot ???? Really ?? Folks in my community proudly sport large campaign type "buttons" with " Proudly Vaxed"... in red, white, and blue with an American flag ! ! ??? Really ! ! ! Maybe we should all RE-READ Atlas Shrugged ? Think about what happens when everything breaks down and everyone is depending on what they "thought" would always keep everything going ! Is it still on the mandatory high school reading list ? ?

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Jo Highet's avatar

No, but should be. I want to find and wear a Who is John Galt shirt

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Rob D's avatar

I'm still in awe that after almost 2 years there's still enough people scared enough to continue wearing useless masks, taking experimental shots, masking their pets, hand sanitizing their mail, and so on and so forth. It's depressing really. I was just discussing "pandemics" with a friend the other day and we were trying to remember how many "pandemics" we've lived through in our 58 years... we came up with at least 5 (whether those were ligit pandemics or not). And somehow we lived. I truly believe that there is a much more sinister agenda at play. There has to be. I could ramble for a long time, but I guess I'll end by saying, thank goodness I stopped watching ALL mainstream news almost 15 years ago. I'm still informed and educated and probably know as much as (if not more than) most so-called "doctors" in the world right now as it pertains to "covid". I surely hope that common sense prevails and that human beings find their courage again. But I'm certainly not counting on it. Thanks for all of your great info Eugyppius.

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eugyppius's avatar

thanks for your fantastic comment, Rob.

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Charles's avatar

Rob,

fear is a powerful persuasive force. it is almost impossible to “undo” it.

and when others don’t share in ones fear the cognitive dissonance is harrowing so they lash out at the non-fearful calling them “crazy” and worse.

i have an aunt (vaxed) who hasn’t left her house (she goes outside) or gone to a grocery store in 14 months.

she called us crazy for going on about our lives even after we explained that we have all had corona.

the only way out for these people is gentle chiding or ridicule, as no amount of data or information can persuade them away from their fear.

it’s like someone started a nuclear countdown clock for them and it’s impossible to stop it.

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Stephen Dedalus's avatar

Yes, and I would add that pride is now overtaking fear among many. Those that bought into this nonsense are too proud to admit they were fooled and so they turn their humiliation against those of us that remind them “we told you so.” Why do you think that things like spousal abuse and child molestation and confidence swindles are under reported crimes? It’s because they are attacks against ones integrity, their self esteem. Same with the COVID con. Remember how it took years before even a small majority of Americans were willing to admit in a poll that Sadaam Hussein had no WMD. It was to humiliating to admit, because of pride, that you were suckered into a war of false pretext.

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Jennifer Y's avatar

I remember being at a friend’s house helping her format her dissertation the night we (the US) invaded Iraq. As I walked through the living room on the way the kitchen to get a snack, I said to her husband, who was watching the show live on TV, “I sure hope they find WMD.” I rarely watch MSM, even back then, and yet I had my doubts, less based on real information and more based on human nature and decades of quietly observing the behavior of people big and small. And here we are.

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Stephen Dedalus's avatar

I am an analytical chemist by training, and I too remember sitting in my laboratory at work listening to Colin Powell’s evidentiary presentation to the UN about the biological weapons lab that he alleged were in the desert of Iraq and other such claims. I remember thinking to myself in disbelief, “that’s their evidence?” If my lab had reported data based on such flimsy evidence we would have been raided by the FBI!

It’s historical irony that old Colin, who later maintained that his UN presentation was the embarrassing low point of his career, just passed away from “complications associated with COVID” despite being double vaxxed.

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giannmi's avatar

The odd thing about that mindset is the arrogance of Americans. As is we and we alone are to determine what other countries are allowed to do in terms of defense or any other issue for that matter. What if they found WMD? The United States has more WMD than any other country. This is not to say that Saddam was a good guy - he clearly was not but the hubris of the United States is astonishing.

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Richard Seager's avatar

We marched against that war several times. It did a fat lot of good, as weeks or maybe months later the Americans were slaughtering (I think they may even have referred to it as a turkey shoot) the 18yo Iraqis in their poorly equipped vehicles on the roads down near Kuwait.

Is this an analogy? Sure seems like it.

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Ann Marie's avatar

That, and the comment below on refusal to accept the humiliation from the Saddam Hussein incident (as expressed below by J. Patrick D, are only two of the many examples of the powerful basic psychological drives fueling much of this. While a relatively small portion of our population have studied human psychology beyond psy. 101 ( if even that), and those who have, have forgotten much of the basics. I now feel fortunate that due to my career, I have remembered the classic principles like those in Crowd Behavior: Contagion, Convergent & Emergent Norm Theory by Gustave Le Bon; still on the shelves of my home library ! And, can any of you who have read it, forget the classic : Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds ? Do you think many in leadership and government positions, actually believe no one (except them) have read these and many other books ? We even read Saul Alinsky in grad school... another eye opener. Maybe we SHOULD have KEPT books and libraries, those "old" relics, we may one day doing away with them in favor of "tablets" in place of school books !

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microbesrus's avatar

I would say you most certainly do know as much if not more. Yet one of my attendings would tell you, “quite frankly, you don’t.” This was his response after a mother told him she knew as much as he did and all she had was a “few Google searches and not some fancy, high dollar education.” But at the end of the day she was right about the diagnosis and my boss? Triggered and fuming. Why? Because the cognitive dissonance is unreal in these people. Their entire identity is tied up in all of it.

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Jennifer Y's avatar

This is slightly terrifying as I age and wonder about when I might need medical intervention. My plan is get along, like I’ve done for a few decades, with “alternative” approaches and mostly good diet, exercise, and sleep. And to be strong enough to resist the fear mongering that seems like a common tactic of modern medicine. I’m a bit worried about the community aspect. I believe that one leg of good health, whatever that is, is to be in a supportive community. Most people around me are insane. I’m working I’m on it.

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microbesrus's avatar

Jennifer, I once heard “if water, nutritious food, and exercise can’t fix it, your time is up.” I believe there is something to this.

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Ann Marie's avatar

Ego ? Or, maybe.. Ego ? Public health figures, lounging by their home pools fully dressed in elegant clothing for the covers of national publications...in their private boxes at games without the silly masks, having a great time with their invited guests..star power...ego...

How many ways can you spell cognitive dissonance????

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Mike H's avatar

Two points re doctors and their COVID knowledge: 1. Many MD's do have extensive knowledge about the adverse effects of the "vaccines" and effectiveness of treatments but are afraid to express or act on it for fear of losing their license, and 2. Many others do not have extensive knowledge because they do not WANT to know. I had an MD friend tell me he stopped reading anything in journals that contradicted the vaccine narrative because he might feel obligated (via his oath and conscience) to act on it. Safer and easier to just not know...

And that's consistent among medical professionals around the world, which tells you the kind of power and reach the people running this global genocide have.

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Jo Highet's avatar

I find that truth sobering. It’s much easier to believe doctors are misinformed rather than willingly ignorant or knowingly hurting people.

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Richard Seager's avatar

My doctor recently signed a letter in support of vaccinations. She didn't need to do that. I will at some stage in the next few weeks make a point of letting her know why she's no longer my doctor. It comes down to trust and I have none for her anymore.

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microbesrus's avatar

Very interesting Anna. To me creating a parallel world is the way to go.

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Joseph Carroll's avatar

It would seem that the predictions of some knowledgable scientists are coming true. Namely, that the vaccinated have set themselves for a world of hurt, for reasons known and unknown. As this plays out in the US over the next 3-4 months and we catch ups what is now happening int he UK & Scotland, there won't be any place left to hide for the sociopaths who have pushed vaccination instead of plain old good health & therapeutics. There may not be enough lampposts for all of those complicit in this scam to hang from.

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Ki's avatar

Thus why they are trying so hard to greatly diminish the size of the control group. Top Priority Number One in the world right now seems to be get as many people jabbed as quickly as possible, consequences be damned. Something fishy is afoot, no question.

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Joseph Carroll's avatar

For sure. No healthy, normal group to expose their malfeasance. Thankfully, at least 40%, if not 50%, have made it clear they will not comply. They have run out of time to hide their crimes. Winter is coming.

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Carmen Sepulveda's avatar

My pharmacists asked me when I will get the jab. I told him when he can show me the long term studies on possible side effects. He didn't ask me again.

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Kimber's avatar

Hold the Line! Do not comply.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Your last paragraph makes me very sad because I think that is basically our only hope.

There are many comments I could make on this, but what is the most frustrating about the whole thing is what you pointed out regarding children: "The truth of course is that we don’t know the true rate of Corona-induced myocarditis in children, because most of infections go unnoticed."

But this is true even for adults. We have no solid case count for adults so we are only pretending that we know COVID's actual IFR. A "COVID hospitalization" is like a "COVID death." The only thing you can say for certain is that that person had symptoms of or tested positive for COVID. Nothing more. A "COVID hospitalization" can be someone who broke their leg skiing and tested positive while recovering from surgery but never got symptoms. The numbers they used to gauge "vaccine effectiveness" are so spun and manipulated as to be worthless, and when it comes to the vaccine's ill effects, then, and only then, did Rachelle Walensky remember that there's a difference between dying "of" and "with." It's all junk, but they pretend that they're doing "serious science." They're not. Third graders entering a science fair have a better grasp of what real science requires than these people. But we're allowing them to make public policy. It's terrifying and infuriating.

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Colorado Mom's avatar

Exactly right. And they don’t seem to understand the more they hide and obfuscate, the more suspicious we are. They think we are dumber than dogs, who even know to spit out the pill after they eat the cheese.

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Ed's avatar

Vaccines aren't the only hope https://covid19criticalcare.com/

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Liz Shelby's avatar

Couldn’t agree more and Uttar Pradesh have 241 million case studies!

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Kevin Green's avatar

Did any of you see this yet? (Pierre Kory presentation to R members of Congress: https://www.youmaker.com/video/453c62c3-f7f7-4f65-b0c2-3f1d29f1a856

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Red_Rabbit's avatar

Check out the Indian numbers for yourself: https://covid19.healthdata.org/india/uttar-pradesh (you can change the state on the site)

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Mark S's avatar

YOU NAILED IT MY FRIEND!!!

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microbesrus's avatar

We have a rule in medicine. You can’t talk to crazy. But what happens when the people in medicine are now the crazy ones?

Interestingly much of the heat at my job has died down because of….wait for it…..football season. I kid you not. Some of the most aggressive vax advocates who would sling such verbal beauties as “no healthcare for the unvaxxed” or “the unvaxxed should be shipped to Afghanistan” have been lulled back to slumber by sportsball.

But doesn’t that really speak to the situation as a whole?

On this side of the fence we face a self imposed existential crisis. Face it, most of us bought the lie of life to some degree. Somewhere along the line we woke up. However most of us probably spent a little too much time plugged into the Matrix. I know I feel a bit like Neo vomiting all over the hull of the Nebuchadnezzar.

I feel like this because I realize I could have prepared for all of this, but didn’t. Specifically I grew up on a farm. Raised cattle, grew veggies, and canned food. But hell, the was 25 years ago. I wouldn’t even know where to begin now.

Can we as individuals get back to that place? As Roland mentions in Stephen King’s the Dark Tower, “the world has moved on.” It doesn’t even seem like the same planet as 25 years ago.

But that is the only vision of hope I see. We must get back to some form of self sovereignty.

These people will not stop with the mandates and imposing their will upon you (us). Honestly I doubt you can even relate to the heinous nature that motivates them. We could show them charts and pie graphs until the cows come home. They won’t budge.

We will have to devise a new world outside of this. This is a hard truth. We believed we could live in this world, but it was always on borrowed time.

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LP934's avatar

I certainly feel my post-covid life will be simpler, more rural and more self/community-sufficient; to some reasonable extent OTG (off-the-grid), or at least not dependent on it. I don't think isolating oneself is helpful; but maybe with "good tech" / blockchain there will be a place for like-minded people to interact?

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microbesrus's avatar

kittytamer, I think they will still come for us in those more rural creations, but again, we are on borrowed time regardless. Might as well attempt to recreate something more wholesome and nutritious while we can.

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Newsyoucanuse's avatar

Bitcoin and cryptos that have fungibility and anonymity are tools in the chest for re-establishing self sovereignty. (Hence the massive price increases recently over inflation concerns / FIAT currency faith as well)

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microbesrus's avatar

Newsyoucanuse, I’ll be honest, crypto feels like you need to be an elite hacker or market analyst to navigate it. I’m an average joe. Where does one even begin to understand such obscure things?

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microbesrus's avatar

Adretto, mine as well. I just wish I knew more people who were interested. Most of the people I know prefer sportsball and Instagram.

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David Shane's avatar

Echoes here of "if masks worked as well as advertised, you wouldn't have to mandate them or compel usage of them for as long as you did b/c they would have killed COVID". Next iteration of the same, "if vaccines worked as well as advertised...".

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eugyppius's avatar

let’s just hope there isn’t an act III and it fizzles out after this.

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TK plus's avatar

here's to hoping.

My observation - don't need a scatter plot for this - of American football, is there are tons of stadiums full of college kids and alumnus , and pro stadiums full of NFL fans (and probably the same for baseball series). I've gone to a kids college sporting event and there was a mix of masked an unmasked.

This return to normal with no breakouts, let alone super spreader events, even tho the bat shit crazies were screaming, means that it'll be difficult for the bat shit crazy wanna be's in the CDC or FDA to impose another round of anything ... especially against the headwinds of the less-political advisory committee votes

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LP934's avatar

It seems to my layman understanding that it will never fizzle out; as the millennia old human tussle seems to be between Freedom and Authoritarianism; underpinned by too-many humans' moral bedazzlement with greed, pride and selfishness.

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Colorado Mom's avatar

If they win, what’s next will be truly terrifying.

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Dave's avatar

They have been "winning" for almost 2 years, with no end in sight.

Hope is not a strategy.

Every one of us needs to attend marches, however small, and mass email government officials and journalists with links to studies proving the error of their current course of action.

At the very least the authorities will not be able to claim they didn't know any better or they didn't have access to the studies.

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Rob D's avatar

May be a silly example (and there are lots of examples) of people knowing something is good and accepting it willingly... no one had to coerce anyone to rush out and buy billions of rolls of toilet paper last year. Because, thus far, toilet paper seems to work really really well for what it was designed for.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Kind of wasteful though. In Poland a generation ago they'd give you two sheets if you were lucky when you went to the toilet say at a restaurant. My Polish friend had his laundry full of toilet paper.

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T Mac's avatar

Even more distressing to consider is that now that “they”, (is it the CCP or vanguard and blackrock behind the curtain- Wth knows?) continue to pull this off despite massive protests in some countries, will they be emboldened to try it again. I was suspicious right from the beginning of 2019, an election year where trump looked set to win and with, as he put it “the ink barely dry” on a fair trade deal he had wangled out of the CCP, that a virus is unleashed on the world with not much done to stop it; that decimated the US economy and provided corrupted media another stick with which to beat Trump. Then the banning of ivermectin and the censoring of thousands of doctors…. Wtf is wrong with people that they can’t see something is wrong? One thing is for sure, until western governments are ballsy enough to break up media conglomerates that have been able to control this blatantly false narrative, the majority of the world’s population looks set to be led off a precipice. It reminds me, eerily, of the old Pied Piper tale.

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Richard Seager's avatar

A combination of the two btw, CCP and Vanguard/Blackrock who seem to have made a "bet" on China at least a decade ago. If you check out the 50 largest Corporates you will note that 7 years ago only one Chinese Corporate was in the top 50 and it was at #50. Now there's a dozen or so. You can't tell me that they managed to capitalize themselves into that position so quickly.

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David Arnold's avatar

Thanks for your research, time and succinctness.

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Charlotte's avatar

As long as the deluded vaccine class continues to say that it keeps you out of the hospital and prevents death, this is not going to stop. I’m worried by the time they finally release some of the true vaccination stats of hospitalizations, the virus will have morphed into something much more dangerous for all of us. People like Fauci (narcissistic , not clever, paid off by big pharma, and convinced he knows what’s best for millions of people) will have set us up as a freight train running full steam off a cliff. Where are the safeguards to stop this when the CDC is even openly disregarding the FDA already?

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Rob D's avatar

I'm sure this has been mentioned before... in reference to "continues to say that it keeps you out of the hospital and prevents death"... I just love the interviews I've heard with people who literally say, "I got both 'vaccines' and a couple weeks later I was in the hospital for a week. I'm so glad I got the 'vaccines' because imagine how much worse it would have been if I hadn't."

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Colorado Mom's avatar

Right?? It defies logic!

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Mark S's avatar

This is largest intelligence test ever designed for humans and like an intelligence test many not everyone passes. The consequences for those who make the wrong choices (and refuse to listen to that little voice in their head) will be devastating and quite simply may last forever.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Reminds me of Jacques Attali’s 1981 statement:

“The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We start with the old, because as soon as they exceed 60-65 years, people live longer than they produce and that costs society dearly. Then the weak, then the useless that do not help society because there will always be more of them, and above all, ultimately, the stupid. Euthanasia targeting these groups; Euthanasia will have to be an essential tool in our future societies, in all cases. Of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps. We get rid of them by making them believe that it is for their own good.

“Overpopulation, and mostly useless (sic), is something that is too costly economically. Socially, too, it is much better when the human machine comes to an abrupt standstill than when it gradually deteriorates. Neither will we be able to test millions upon millions of people for their intelligence, you bet that!

“We will find or cause something a pandemic targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and stupid will believe in it and seek treatment.

“We will have made sure that treatment is in place, treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots then takes care of itself: You go to the slaughter by yourself. ”

[The Future of Life, Jacques Attali, 1981], Interviews with Michel Salomon, Les Visages de l’avenir collection, éditions Seghers.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/bill-sardi/the-worlds-master-diabolitician-calls-the-shots-on-the-extermination-of-human-populations/

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LP934's avatar

Bloody-hell OMG

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I know, right??

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Yet another example of the capacity of the human brain to rationalize away lunacy and double-down on lies they have been suckered into believing.

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JuQu's avatar

What if anything, anywhere prevents death? It comes for us all eventually. N’est-ce pas?

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Mark S's avatar

YOU BROKE THE CODE! If this doesn't wake people up to the corruption within the medical community and government NOTHING WILL! None of this is an accident or coincidence. When all debate and conversation is censored or your threatened with the loss of your job, jail time or worse you need to wake up and see this $hitShow for what it is. Before this is over, those who refuse to think for themselves and blindly follow will enjoy negative health and or financial consequences that will devastate their daily life for decades or worse.

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Colorado Mom's avatar

We are being threatened with losing the job that supports our family right now. Many difficult conversations at my house. These idiot policies affect real people. It’s like we are characters in a video game and they are gleefully experimenting with our lives. We aren’t real to them.

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Pluto’s aura's avatar

Religious exemption?

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Colorado Mom's avatar

We filled out the form. We will see.

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Jessica's avatar

FYI- it’s very difficult for them to deny that the “vaccine” isn’t derived from aborted fetuses. They’ve been running scared over it and trying to hide it. Also, comirnaty is not available. The only injection you can get is the experimental one. If you ask about comirnaty, they say it’s the same formulation (it is) but is not available. This is the paperwork you can ask for if you are forced to get the shot. https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

This explains that you will be given “either shot”. They don’t have the approved shot meaning that you are LEGALLY taking the experimental shot.

Under EUA rules, you can not be forced to take something that is experimental. You also are SOL for any legal liability because it’s experimental.

At that point, you can decline the shot right there. Make sure you document. Lawyers are taking these cases on. At bare minimum, it can buy you time if you feel you have run out of options. You should also be able to file for unemployment if they do fire you when you refuse. It’s complicated and complex. But just wanted to share what I’ve seen. Not a lawyer.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Yes they're calling the EUA one Comirnaty here in NZ, have been doing so all along.

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Tank Hough's avatar

If we allow the government to keep breaking the laws during "emergencies", they will keep creating "emergencies" to break the law

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Brian Dougan's avatar

An unwavering; unvaxed Canadian here. By the end of October; I will not be permitted to board an international flight. By "order" of the joke J. Trudeau. How can this communist tyrant prevent ANYONE from boarding an INTERNATIONAL flight? That should be at the sole discretion of the carrier. If--say--Korean Air doesn't want the unvaxed on their flights--Fine. That's their (lost) business...Literally, and figuratively. Trudeau should have zero say in the matter. In any case; I'll soon be living in the "new" Alcatraz/Hotel California. Shameful. Good thing I don't need to fly anywhere. I'm fortunate in that respect--But; still prevented from entering the USA. (By land; etc.) Hopefully; this whole travesty will blow up in their sickening faces. Just give it some time.

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Dave's avatar

We've given it almost 2 years and they continue to double down. It's actually time to start standing up and raising your voice. Go to marches, write government officials and newspaper editors and link to the studies this article contains.

We can't wait for the insane to come to their senses.

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DC Lovell's avatar

Team vaccination is willing to let this play out, knowing that they control the MSM. I think it's an illusion that this evilness can be covered up. Mexico, India, and other "3rd world countries" have vast populations. They haven't, for the most part, been playing along for various reasons. In the end it will be these countries that will be laughing at our inability to grasp the ancient concept of Hubris and Nemesis.

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DC Lovell's avatar

Oz is in big trouble. They have an authoritarian virus and the only known cure for that is firearms, which they took away. Germany I am not sure about.

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Alice Smith's avatar

Hi from NSW. It is desperate over here. But there is a glimmer of hope. We have to have a federal election by May 2022. Clive Palmer, a mining billionaire, is funding the United Australia Party on a freedom ticket. No vax passes, no mandates, ivermectin and back to normal. They will have deep pockets for advertising, and MSM will have to run those advertisements, which will mean the sheep will be introduced to facts they are currently unaware of. They now have more members then any other party in Australia. It’s going to be very interesting. https://youtu.be/_WdCNWqIwdw

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Richard Seager's avatar

A friend stood for Clive's party last time, didn't get too many votes, well short of getting close to the seat.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Trouble is the party is also running from the right. Need to get the (sensible) left onboard as well.

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Colorado Mom's avatar

They have lost they damn minds over there. And just this weekend I read that Australia has now banned bikers from being seen in public with visible tattoos. One to five years in prison. That is LITERAL MADNESS.

This is why you never give up your guns. I mean, if you haven’t already lost them in a tragic boating accident, which seems to befall so many of us.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I wept inconsolably as I watched my rifles slowly descend into the depths of Lake Superior...

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BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

Reminds me of that meme going around with two young masked people talking to two unmasked Amish people and asking, "Why doesn't COVID affect you?".

"Because we don't have television."

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Turbonutz's avatar

Personally I believe this was about a "vaccine passport" from the beginning. We needed to leave our houses so we needed masks. The masks stopped the virus that lurked around every corner and reminded us of a pandemic that we couldn't see if we turned off the news. It was masks until a magical cure came, a very profitable one. Whether it worked or not probably doesn't concern them, at least in the way the claim it's supposed to work. The shot, effective or not, would require proof that you had complied and were clean. Don't forget to update your card every 6 months to a year with boosters. Your paper card fell apart? No problem! We'll give you a FREE digital pass... certificate with your FREE shot.

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Quoth's avatar

The two red flags for me were 1) when they told people who had developed natural immunity to get injected, and 2) when they told kids to get injected. After this, I realised they were trying to destroy the control group at all costs and then all my calculations changed.

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