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I wonder why this is the strategy these brave radicals have chosen: What does classic art have to do with "raising awareness" of climate change? Why don't they hurl filth at oil co. headquarters & execs? Why don't they attack Wall St or City Hall etc, where actual decisions on policy are made? What is the connection bw art & the climate?

I think first is simple cowardice: Klimt or his work can't punch back, and the security guards at your average museum aren't exactly trained assassins. But also what these works represent is Beauty, individual skill and talent, and most importantly, transcendence, which paradoxically takes us out of ourselves but also links us to each other through a shared experience of the sacred and eternal.

I think this gets more to the heart of why these obviously miserable children have chosen artwork as what needs to be befouled and destroyed to "raise awareness" (of themselves): they need to destroy what they could never create, and just like so many radicals throughout history, what they really most desire is for the rest of us to be as miserable and hate-filled as they are. And I guess that's why our cultural heritage must be attacked: if they can't experience joy, gratitude, transcendence, etc, then none of us should either.

These acts are an assault on all of us, on the best and most beautiful parts of humanity and human history, and they should not be excused for either the youth of the perpetrators or that age-old Get out of Jail Free Card: they were doing it for a good cause.

These children need a nice stiff jail term.

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Gail Finke's avatar

They do it because they get in the news. You and I care about art (presumably) but not homes of executives, so it will get publicity and we will care. However, they don't actually damage the art -- that might enrage us at THEM. Seeing them make this "statement" ("You care about art more than you care about people!!!") we are supposed to admire and join them.. That's the strategy. Of course it's stupid. That's why so few people actually do it.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

"You care about art more than you care about people!!!"

There's only one Mona Lisa but like 8 billion people.

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Paula's avatar

Of course I do. Have you ever met people?

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Actually there isn't only ONE Mona Lisa. I know!

There are several copies including the one in the Prado museum in Spain. They may have been painted by Leonardo's assistants and students, even with his assistance - no one knows for sure.

And did you know the original used to hang in Napoleon's bedroom. Fascinating.

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Bird's avatar

And how's that statement as the perfect reflection of anthropocentrism: 'caring about the environment = about people'.

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kertch's avatar

I certainly care about art more than I care about them.

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Jln's avatar

They are not actually damaging the art now. The Left is a cult, that’s the irony of them calling other people that. They, like any religion, demand strict adherence of thought and actions. However, eventually they will destroy everything just like they did in China, the Soviet Union, Cuba etc. They can never create beauty only destroy it.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

take away their driver's licence forever. Everything on foot or pedal bicycle. No heating in their houses, nothing at all. After a long jail time, of course. And nothing made with petroleum, including meds, shampoos, plastics, and lots of other chemical products. Hehe. That would be REAL green. Living like the cave men.

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Graham Stull's avatar

This is what I always say to the "the economy is not everything" crowd:

Imagine a 500 sq km chuck of primeval northern European forest. Now imagine you have no clothes, no tools and are placed in the middle of this forest, naked. How long would you (or any of us) survive? A day? A week? Not longer, surely.

This thought exercise should show you that the economy - which provides all the things that separate you from harsh reality of nature - is in fact 'everything'.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it always amazes me that when I go out in the woods or even in my yard, and pick something edible, people panic because they think I will drop dead LOL. It is absurd how people grow lawns with all the work and the poisons attached, and have no idea about edible plants all around us. They do not cover a daily need, but at times I have enough greens to cover 3 days a week. Just with wild greens. And summer berries make for several desserts !

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Rikard's avatar

"...primeval northern European forest."

That's were I live!

Naked at this time of the year (-5C right now, very high humidity - almost fog, and an inch of snow), you have maybe at best hours to live and that's if you keep in motion only.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

I had to read your comment twice, Rikard. I’ll let you guess why. Haha

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Rikard's avatar

Ooops! Haha, well.... ahem.

Thank you, goodnight!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

😂😂😂

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SnowInTheWind's avatar

Leave out the naked part, because that's obvious death in the winter for a hairless tropical animal. But even so, how much respect is due to our ancestors who DID live there for tens of millennia under pretty nearly those conditions?

When the fossil fuels go away, we will probably need to revisit half-forgotten methods for doing it again.

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jim's avatar

words spoken by people who want for nothing,

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Ernest Judd's avatar

Ahh! A mammon worshipper./

Go make some inflationary and financial economic misdirections to further you at the expense of the environment and the people that don't behave and think as you.

This thought exercise makes the absurdity of the fear of nature! Nature is all!

There is no need to fear, unless you are an incompetent human being.

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Jeff's avatar

And when they glue themselves to something cordon them off and leave them to their own devices. No food, no water, no seat, no bathroom...until they free themselves. Then they can be provided those things in a jail cell. Once they realize they will have to stand there for hours or days and p!ss themselves they’ll lose volunteers.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and have them clean up after themselves, too, not have some other poor cleaners have to do that! They probably never had to do that before. Haha, i am just imagining this... some spoiled rich brats having to clean up after themselves !

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uselesseater's avatar

Throw in a diet of meal worms

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the long warred's avatar

You Europeans.

Sigh.

Repatriate them to our jails.

We’ll have some diversity review the actual sentence.

Its not as bad as the rumors.

Its worse.

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Rikard's avatar

Several european nations are now debating and negotiating whether to hire prison space in nations like Sudan and Somalia, so if that pans out, the US might consider outsourcing too!

Ain't no holy writ sentence must be served where the crime was committed after all.

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SnowInTheWind's avatar

Interesting. And there goes any responsibility for measured sentencing and humane punishment. Once convicted of any real or imagined crime, the condemned will have no human rights, and will become the property of whoever owns those transnational prison systems.

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the long warred's avatar

Yes.

[whistles happily]

We all live in Amerika, America, America....

You.

Do.

Now.

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the long warred's avatar

Privately owned prisons are a business in the USA.

Here's one.

https://www.corecivic.com/

Americans NEVER say no to money !

Ship us your problems, starting with these little shits.

Diversity needs to have a word with them.

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bigfatpop's avatar

My solution would involve extreme violence.

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Demeisen's avatar

That would have the salutary effect of discouraging copycats.

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Andreas Stullkowski's avatar

Wall Street was attacked a decade ago by Occupy Wallstreet.

The reactions of media and state was summarily dismissive. This was the time when real protest became "right wing populism", while protests in favor of the state became "activism".

Every time someone is called an "activist" in the media, like these "!climate activists", it is a protest the regime supports.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You definitely are onto something there, language means everything. And we have seen it many times throughout our life time.

But it's not as mild language as you might expect. Protestors and activists are called such when it supports the current narrative, but when you don't, it's an insurrection, and the people participating in it are "terrorists. This isn't by accident.

It was in our face. When buildings were burning, it was known as a "mostly peaceful protest" and when people broke windows on the capitol building, and the only person killed was one of the protestors, it was an "insurrection." And the definition they want to associate with it is an "armed uprising." If there were actually guns involved, they would be front and center in the media. It would have been a boon for the narrative. But it wasn't an armed protest, and there were legitimate complaints, complaints waged by the very same people that have called such ravings "a big lie."

You can always tell the principles that the narrative promotes, because the opposite is known as "anti" Such as anti-vaxxer, anti-lockdown, etc.

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Andreas Stullkowski's avatar

Yes, "anti" and also "denier" signify the outsider who does not belong in our good society. And of course they are "extremely dangerous to our democracy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE

In German it is even worse, because they use very old fashioned words, which remind us of the Nazi propaganda. Like "Hetzer" or "Leugner" - these have in German a very evil taste.

Anyone who has done some reading about the language of Nazi-Germany will be involuntary be terrorized by these words.

This must be on purpose, since these words are not used in everyday language, and our journalists are usually not very well read and don't have a big vocabulary.

"The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists".

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It's ironic you should say that, because antifa is pretty much that in a nutshell. "We're not fascists, we are just employing the same methods as fascism against who we see as fascists."

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I've seen that video..."No propaganda or mass formation going on here."

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I wonder if at times it just boils down to, there are people that love to build sandcastles, and others that just like to knock them over.

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Paula's avatar

I believe you are exactly right about their motivation. That which is beautiful speaks of a hope that they want to crush.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

Hatred of Beauty (of art and individual talent) is one common trait of all fundamentalists, whether religious or political. This is probably because works of art are often ambiguous and open to interpretation, which makes the Very Certain uncomfortable. Also, Leftists are usually strict materialists, so any higher (or even just separate) truths or paths, any spirituality or transcendence, strikes them as suspicious and possibly reactionary. All fundamentalists present the world with the same blackmail/demand: everything that doesn't support or obey our One True Faith needs to be destroyed.

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Paula's avatar

They figured it was the best target for getting 15 minutes of fame.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Nice Warhol reference.

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Paula's avatar

LOL

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Ernest Judd's avatar

What did "Removed" comment?

Was it that vile?

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Duchess's avatar

Agree. 100%

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GT's avatar

You expect too much intellect in low self esteem nutz cultists

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I was talking rather about a response that would completely misinterpret what it was they were trying to do. It would be similar to taking the "Black Lives Matter" protest and instead of undestanding it the way it is meant to be understood, to comment "So I know there is matter, anti matter and Dark Matter, but now there are a bunch of people excited about a different thing known as "Black Lives Matter?"

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Dark Thomas's avatar

I just add an "O" to the signs so they say "BLACK OLIVES MATTER", and everyone thinks of pizza and stops fighting like the globalists intended

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I like that!

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Dark Thomas's avatar

You can also draw a penis in the Black Lives Matter fist sign, but that just tends to get everyone riled up again

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I'd rather stick to it's original slogan and just innocently misinterpret it. Sometimes I love to "Forrest Gump" things. By that I mean follow up cliches with innocent questions.

One of my favorites was>

Jenny: Forrest, what do you want to be when you grow up?"

Forrest: "Aren't I going to be me?"

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kertch's avatar

It's the lighting. They were not lit properly which detracted from their beauty and content. If only these ignorant museum directors fixed the problem, the attacks would stop. These poor youngsters could then properly appreciate the artworks.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Yeah they do!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

We do? I wasn't under the impression it was a competition.

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Ernest Judd's avatar

These miscreants have created an evil "toxic mimic" of protest.

Of course, dead artists masterpieces of art is so threatening because the degenerates actually and violently fear the transendence that art reveals to the unsuspecting observer, as well as how defenceless such cultural images really are. They only hold power when an observer least expects it, and is uncompromising in the reaction that art can provoke.

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JMJ's avatar

Well said

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

thanks!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

I agree with you! It’s an attack on transcendent beauty. It truly IS an assault on all of us. And beauty eternal, so old and so new...

They never attack “modern art.”

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

if u threw oil on a pollock no one would notice!

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SimoneM's avatar

Agree on all points and eloquently expressed. Thank you

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SimoneM's avatar

Also these ratbag wannabes are gutless simply because they are, as eugyppuis labels them, repressed and repressive western taliban -i would add of communist and totalitarian mindset. Hideous. Is this a consequence of education?

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the long warred's avatar

it's become the direct purpose of education.

Really, to put a bunch of military age males together under education based on Prussian Drill LOL LMAO of course they march.

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Stephanie's avatar

I couldn’t agree more.

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the long warred's avatar

In Camden county NJ lockup.

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

>Why don't they hurl flith at oil co. headquarters & execs? Why don't they attack Wall St or City Hall etc, where actual decisions on policy are made?

They often do, but that doesn't hit the news. When activists outrage people, the outraged people start doing their work of generating publicity for them.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

hey, i consider warhol to be one of the most overrated humans in all of recorded history, much more marketer and con man than artist, but to the average person (esp the young) Warhol codes as Art and Art codes as Beauty (or at least points outside itself to something larger and less ephemeral than the internet's crisis du jour) so i think the point still stands...(tho of course is fine if u disagree)

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Rikard's avatar

The marketing and the con was the art. He was pretty open about that, as if he was saying: "Hey, look at how skillfully I convince everyone but you that this is art! But just because you are sospecial and insightful, to you I'll sell my /real/ art!".

One can admire his audacity and skill as a grifter without approving of the drug abuse and all the other shit he was up to, that gets labeled social problems and crimes when poor not famous people do the exact same things.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

They did??? I didn’t realize this. All the news we’ve seen about it over here talks about beautiful “actual” art.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

I’m not sure what you’re asking, or if it’s me you’re even asking.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Children play-acting at doing something meaningful to "help" -- while all around them are actual atrocities playing out in real-time.

Tough times are coming. Then nobody will have time to worry about gluing themselves to artwork OR talking about the people who did.

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Duchess's avatar

Absolutely correct.

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kertch's avatar

At some point we will just leave them there. In addition to nobody worrying about someone gluing themselves to artwork, no one will worry about how they will get themselves unstuck.

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Demeisen's avatar

I admit I might be tempted to improve the gluing job. So many modern adhesives. And I suspect the type of people who do this aren't exactly technical craftsmen.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Nobody ever wonders what a woman is after the apocalypse! :)

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Rikard's avatar

In post-apoc prepper camp, newbie being given the tour:

"Every day except Sunday you can use the barrel of fun for sexual release, just put it in the hole in the barrel."

"Why not Sunday?"

"Sunday is your day in barrel."

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Paula's avatar

In some places your next meal.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

TERMINUS IS A TRAP

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Yaaasss!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Haha indeed!

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CygneRouge's avatar

"...to what degree our climate Taliban are justified in their fear of the beauty, discipline and the strength that remains in our world."

Eugy, you KING.

And of course, most of the hucksters currently torturing the world beyond recognition are gripped by the same fear of the beautiful, the disciplined, and the strong. Also, as a natural redhead, I ADORE Klimt, so EFF those CVNTS.

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Dennis D. Duffy's avatar

Terrorist criminals. Getty should be charged (and fined) as a funding accomplice.

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GAF's avatar

Agree. Austria should indict Getty in Austrian courts, then call in the US Ambassador and demand her extradition for trial. When the Ambassador refuses, place him under house arrest and declare the US embassy staff persona non grata. They should also recall the Austrian Ambassador from Washington and begin freezing US assets held in Austrian banks.

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Dennis D. Duffy's avatar

Agree. This nonsense has to stop. Only way is to send a message it not appropriate behavior and will no longer be accepted nor condoned.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I'd like to see more direct action from Austria. They should just send Austrian CIA-types to LA and take a couple of the Getty Museum in Los Angeles paintings as compensation for the hassles, the Getty family will sort out Aileen on their own.

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Carole's avatar

Did you see the magazine article about one of the Getty heiresses' marriage a couple months ago? Opulent doesn't begin to describe it! Perhaps these people need to be required to work in a homeless shelter, actually serving real people, as part of their punishment. Let them spend time with the hoi polloi, rather than dictating to the rest of us from on high.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

But I bet she is all in on "effective altruism ".

Is this how the French Revolution started?

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kertch's avatar

Yes

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z28.310's avatar

If you got together a group of people to brainstorm ideas on how to make the public hate you and whatever cause you were supposedly fighting for, it's hard to think of better ideas than things like blocking traffic and vandalizing museum artworks.

This seems to me like the most extreme case of useful idiots ever, manipulated to mistakenly sabotage their own cause. Hearing that an oil heiress is funding them is beyond parody, and I don't care what she claims her views are.

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kertch's avatar

An oil heiress from a family that also collected art. Seems a little too coincidental. Maybe this has more to do with Aileen and her family issues than it does altruism.

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Barcode's avatar

Idiots searching for ‘meaning’ in life

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Philip Sharpe's avatar

These misguided western culture, if not all culture haters are all young, easily persuaded useful idiots. The grownups who are abusing them and setting them up as living martyrs should be labeled as child abusers and removed from society.

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Carole's avatar

I rather liked the response of the folks at the Volkswagen factory/museum. If they like glue so much, just leave them alone for a day or two! Then maybe take them to jail, and glue them to the jail cell. The story is in Daily Mail, among other sites.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11337831/Climate-protestors-left-cold-dark-gluing-Volkswagen-shop-floor.html

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SimulationCommander's avatar

I love how the protestors complained that Volkswagon provided them no bathroom supplies.

If you can't even think far enough ahead to plan where to poop, you have no business lecturing the world about the future of fossil fuels.

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golftdibrad's avatar

They did the best thing to do, just do as little as possible to accommodate them / ignore them.

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Michael Dansbury's avatar

There is still beauty and strength in the Western canon: look at Caravaggios's 'The Taking of Christ' and you see what small men these weakling vandals are.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/The_Taking_of_Christ-Caravaggio_%28c.1602%29.jpg

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Demeisen's avatar

That is outstanding. You might like the Calling of St Matthew as well.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Incredible

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RioRosie's avatar

There's an element of narcissism to this vandalism. "LOOK AT ME!" "I AM RIGHTEOUS!"

(It follows the narcissism of the "transgender" movement.)

I still think the vandals should be allowed to glue themselves to the wall, the floor, whatever--and leave them there for a few days with no food, no water, no bathroom, etc.

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baker charlie's avatar

Yep. I'm most pissed about the VanGogh incident. Poor man lived in grinding poverty with mental illness, he of all artists does not deserve to be defiled by a bunch of upper middle class wankers.

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The Alive One's avatar

I was in Vienna over the weekend. And I flew there and back to Berlin. So I was reminded of the airport security experience at the time when this story broke. It’s getting to the point where if this type of shouty, messy and iconoclastic activism doesn’t stop, we will have airport departure level security just to enter an art museum. And who wants that? Or, is that the end game?

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Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

It takes petroleum products to make that glue. Hippocrits. (ooops. Need an edit. "Hypocrites"--nothing against hippos here.)

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Paula's avatar

Of course he has a man bun.

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Paula's avatar

Makes me want to snatch him bald.

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Clay's avatar

With one hand glued to a painting, he wouldn't be able to stop you 😂

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Dark Thomas's avatar

"FOSSIL FUELS ARE MAKING THE EARTH TOO HOT, BUT I MEAN NOT JUST WHEN YOU BURN THEM BECAUSE OF COURSE THEN, BUT ALSO LATER ON TOO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT & EVERYONE MUST LISTEN TO ME AND MUST NOT IGNORE ME - ESPECIALLY YOU DAD, AND WHY DID YOU LOVE OUR GOLDEN RETRIEVER MORE THAN ME, OF COURSE HE LISTENED BETTER AND DIDN'T TALK SO MUCH - IT'S A DOG, AND WHY AM I UNWORTHY OF LOVE, BUT ALSO DON'T MESS WITH MY TRUST FUND OR I WILL TELL MOM"

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I am not your Other's avatar

Disgusting.

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Stephanie S's avatar

My thoughts exactly.🤮

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Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Oops. Hippocrit wasn't auto corrected to hypocrite. My bad.

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