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They will twist the data however it takes to make you think the vaccines are effective. People aren't buying it any more.

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Unfortunately, too many people still are and do buy it. If people in general weren't buying this anymore, the entire planet would look like downtown Ottawa right now. Instead here we still are with vaxx mandates and/or testing everywhere, masking of children all over, more vaxx being pushed on children everywhere, etc. The cult is still strong and not showing signs of abating. Hiding the data is just the most recent example.

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I disagree. Most people are cowards and submissive, even if they aren’t buying the narrative. Most people prefer to follow the path of least resistance, even if they know the path is paved with bullshit.

I liken our current situation to the Harvey Weinstein saga in Hollywood. Everyone knew this man was a predator. They knew he was a complete hypocrite. But they looked the other way for years.

What changed the dynamic?

When a critical mass of people found the courage to stand up and call Weinstein out for what he really is. That didn’t happen overnight, but when a tipping point was reached it emboldened the cowards to finally join them and take action.

I think a similar phenomenon played out with the American Revolution. Initially, very few supported the uprising against the Crown, but as the revolutionaries met with success, it encouraged those on the sidelines to get off their asses.

This is what the global cabal genuinely fears. This is why it has invested heavily in psychological warfare: to convince the masses that resistance is futile.

But resistant is NOT futile. Resistance is the key to toppling any tyrannical government.

Resistance and persistence are what will ensure our victory in the greatest battle in the history of humanity.

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Remember, back in school, when the class was taking a test? One person would be the first to hand in their completed test paper, and a flood of others would immediately follow. No one was brave enough to be the first, fearing what finishing the test quickly would say about them, but after someone else broke the ice, they were all willing to turn theirs in even though it was only a few seconds later than it was when they were waiting.

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We're not at the point where somebody is afraid to go first. We're way past that point. Many have had the courage to speak out. They've all been silenced or marginalized and slandered as purveyors of misinformation.

In your classroom analogy, the gate keeper (teacher) wants students to speak out. The teacher is encouraging participation from everybody. In a more fitting analogy for where we are with this debacle, the teacher will only allow one student to speak and any student who attempts to share an alternative view is first shamed in front of the class and then suspended.

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I'm afraid there's little or no useful difference between buying it and complying with it.

I don't disagree at all that "when a critical mass of people find the courage (or any reason) to stand up" then we will be able to say that people aren't buying it anymore. My point is, we are nowhere near that critical mass yet, unfortunately. I'm also not saying that resistance is futile. If I believed that, I wouldn't have resisted to this point. What I'm saying is there's still far too little of it.

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Agreed.

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yup. here in CA they are frothing at the mouth for more Covid restrictions. They want the unvaxxed to "go the way of the dodo." that is a direct quote from a SF native in SF Chronicle. They are hateful people, and it's clearly easy to see how Nazi Germany remained crazy for so long- the Bay Area is the same. They want to be told what to do, and rewarded for it, and punish people who think differently or resist. Its amazing to me how many of these citizens were children of the 60s, were protestors, arrested for it, and now support Brandon or JT with their Dictator level mandates, as well as actions to freeze the financial accounts of people who are protesting. We're leaving as soon as we're able.

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I was born and raised in the Bay Area. I got out long ago when I saw what was coming.

What's somewhat frustrating for me is that I live in a MUCH more conservative and sane area now. People are mostly living normal lives here, but far too many still buy into the vaccines are the solution and masks work narrative, even if they aren't terribly hostile to those who think otherwise. And I truly believe a huge part of that problem is that most of them have been vaxxed. And they simply don't want to admit or even consider that maybe they made the wrong choice. It's going to be really hard to change the hearts and minds of a critical mass of adults when that critical mass is 70% or more vaxxed. Even those that had adverse reactions don't want to blame it on the vaxx or think it was worth it because at least they didn't die of COVID. It's like trying to convince a mass of people who all got the same ugly barbed wire tattoos that they'd have been better off without it. Not gonna happen.

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In Ontario Canada the PM literally said this week "everyone's getting covid vaccinated or not" and we are talking about doom central Canada. The narrative is effectively collapsing.

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He said that and said he really wants to move on, but then refuses to actually move on.

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Many people, especially older people, still are. All it will take is for another variant and a whole load more people will go back to believing it again as well.

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..and they'll soon get one..looks like Omicron2 is on the way..I can't anymore...I just want to hide under a rock and get out when it all ends.

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The obsequiousness and willful ignorance of health officialdom is something to behold. They don't need to be coerced. They dug such a deep hole they are blind to daylight. They are the most useful of idiots. I'm sympathetic to the sane among them.

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Lucky for us, there are some things that are impossible to hide. Reality has a way of revealing itself, often with impeccable timing.

https://youtu.be/589Ct0-yUso

"I think we should stop here." Truer words were never spoken.

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Yeah, just like the comedian who collapsed on stage as she was joking about being triple vaxxed and people laughed because they thought it was part of the act, but it wasn't an act. These things are far too scarce and can't thus far be linked to the vaxx. Even if it is, nobody is going to admit it. Will need to be WAY more obvious than this to get to that point.

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There was also Raphael Silva last month, who keeled over on camera three days after bragging on Twitter about getting his third booster. He had five heart attacks immediately afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLw83xZEYH4

I fear we will witness a large wave of such incidents with the arrival of the next booster. Fortunately, I think enough of them will be broadcast live to make people think more carefully about what they will let a government mandate be put into their bodies (or, more importantly, into their children's bodies).

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I don't think the uptake on a 4th jab will be very high. Pretty low actually. The booster has not been that popular. That may actually work in their favor. That could all change, of course, if a new variant comes along that they can use to frighten everybody with and coerce states and cities back into mandates again.

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That recalls a story (late 80s maybe) I read in an article: Guns 'n' Roses were on stage, and (I think) Axl accused other band members of drug use and then proceeded to fall off the stage 😎

"I used to do a little, but a little wouldn't do it, so a little got more and more..."

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I disagree. It´s certainly not evidence of the injection mania lethal and damaging consequences that´s missing. This goes for all age groups in all countries. No, what´s missing is, that people as they´re most ADMIT to the fact that yes, it IS weird that those who are injected with a protective, harmless vaccine IN FACT ARE THE ONES INFECTED, it IS weird children are having issues with heart inflamation et al. In other words, conscious awareness that is given a VOICE. To do so, COURAGE AND STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS is necessary. It seems to me many are hiding behind wilful blind compliance and an unwillingness to face themselves truthfully.

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Single biggest conspiracy in the history of the human race has been exposed and now they need to pretend it didn't happen. We're not going to let them.

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Or they're trying to save their necks.

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Won't be as easy as catching a greased pig.

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I’ve done that. Hebron NE Centennial in 1968? Not sure about the year but around then. They greased the pig, I got my hands on it’s back legs and it slipped out of my hands and left me in the dirt on my face. Then came the goat roping. Ah, the good old days.

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Whats super interesting to me is that this is coming around the same time that the US CDC is releasing its own vaccination data. It can be found here:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

The CDC data doesn't even come close to matching the UK or Scotland data. The CDC claims the unvaccinated are 4X more likely to CATCH covid and 15X more likely to die. It's insane how different the numbers are. I haven't been able to find the disconnect yet, but I'm wondering if it has something to do with this asterisk: "Unvaccinated persons" .... "has not been verified to have received COVID-19 vaccine."

What does "has not been verified" mean???

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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The UK approach (Scotland being part of UK, of course) is to try to explain away the numbers that aren't going their way with hypothetical objections (the same kinds of things that are always raised as potential confounding factors as part of the scientific review process). The US approach is to gerrymander the criteria for various statistical categories to produce statistics that don't need explaining away.

In other words, in the US, we just make shit up.

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Yep, they draw a lot of the data for these things from NCY data...who have admitted to "counts as unvaccinated unless we can find and verify a vaccination record" https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC has details about this

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In the same way that it counts as a covid death if the person has tested positive (which could mean multiple use of unreliable tests), no covid symptoms, and was admitted to the hospital for a heart attack or been in a car crash, gunshot wound etc?

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Do you know the specific Twitter link? Hold is quite prolific!

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https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1493951439047172106 attached is the screenshot of the response from a NY health employee via github

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This is insane.

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Thank you!

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I had the same question. I was scanning their thread and wasn't really sure what I was looking for.

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Keep in mind that when they say something like "15 times more likely to die", they're using *relative risk* which is incredibly misleading. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated have vanishingly small chances of dying – depending on your risk factors of course — but relative risk makes it look significant when it's not.

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Right, it's super important to understand absolute risk reduction. For example, for a 75yo, a 50% effective covid vaccine would be much more useful and prevent more death than a 95% effective vaccine for a 25yo.

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I think some people just make up the data as it suits them.

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In fairness, the unreliability of statistics works both ways. We know that the statistics themselves are unreliable due to inconsistent technical issues and VERY inconsistent non-technical reasons 😎. But for the same reasons, those "defending" the narrative have their valid reasons. Think about it: to even verify that a person had or had not received a Covid-19 "vaccine" is a non-trivial issue. Do we interview the patient and take his word for it? Even if proof of a vaccination exists in some database, what assurances do we have against error? What if he received an undocumented injection? Etc. Optimally there would be some way to test or verify, perhaps a blood assay for certain types of antibodies? My point here is that something as apparently simple as validating whether, when and how many of what types of shots a person has had, is far from a simple thing. While I don't check the literature, I seriously doubt that such a validation, to create a reliable data set, has been undertaken. There are obvious barriers to doing it, not the least of which are that the "authorities" might not like the results that would arise from such an investigation.

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Maybe.... makes you wonder...

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I loved the footnote at the end , lmao. That's absolutely the point, isn't it? They've been painted into a corner by their own numbers and now they have to make up stuff. They have zero evidence showing that the jabs make you less likely to catch/transmit the virus (to the contrary we see that 14 day donut hole as an alarming period of wild transmission and illness). And again, no numbers that support that you are less likely to be hospitalized.

I bet part of the reason they decided to hide the numbers was also that Sturgeon is furious that Boris was forced to open everything up (or be removed for his political/covid party blunders) and now she has pie on her face.

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Romania is control group inside EU.

As of today, 42% of our population is vaccinated and 13% is boostered.

Latest official data: 49.6% of the infections are among vaccinated. It is like this since the beginning of Omicron. The authorities are trying to hide the data (vaccinated people aren't tested unless they REALLY have bad symptoms) but, no matter what, they can't hide this simple truth: 49.6% > 42%.

It was obvious during the Delta wave that vaccinated people are the true spreaders of the virus, but because back in October we had only 34% people vaccinated, it was easy for the authorities to fake the data.

These aren't vaccines. These are weapons of mass infection and bioterrorist tools.

LE. And I want to add something. During the Delta wave, when data could still be faked, a lot of people became afraid of the virus and went to vaccination (this is why the ratio increased rapidly from 34% to 42%). But today everyone is seeing that Omicron is litteraly "the pandemic of the vaccinated". And now people AVOID the vaccines... When Omicron arrived here, around January 1st, many resistants were afraid that a new fear-porn chapter would open up and people will go again to get the vaccines, and we'll become a minority. And, indeed, between 1-10 January we had a little vaccination rush, with more than 8,000 newly vaccinated on January 8th, but then people began to understand little by little that Omicron is "the pandemic of the vaccinated" and they chilled down. In the last 2-3 weeks the average number of the newly vaccinated was around 1,500 / day (including those with fake certificates :)))) ), with a negative record on Feb. 13 when only 691 unique people (including 90 children under 12) choose to get vaccinated. This is why the government announced a couple of days ago that the vaccination centres will be closed and soon the vaccination will follow on through the network of "family physicians". Apparently, they... surrendered. Now it's time to lift the restrictions, too, and everything will be like it was before this madness, except the new "iron walls" erected around each EU country by Ursula von der Leyen's travel rules.

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My Bulgarian friend says it's similar there. The EU is now lucky to have several "control groups" that can call out the bullshit being peddled by France, Germany and others. Unfortunately, nations towards the east don't have as much clout and influence :/

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thanks. Really useful to get an insight into this from Romania. Where can we get some more?

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We don't have an English language website with all the information related to the pandemics.

There is an official website with updated charts: https://datelazi.ro/ (you can use Google Translate).

This website is made by some independent guys and provides much more charts: https://www.graphs.ro/

And there are the official press releases from the National Statistics Institute. They publish 2 important press releases each week (https://insp.gov.ro/centrul-national-de-supraveghere-si-control-al-bolilor-transmisibile-cnscbt/infectia-cu-noul-coronavirus-sars-cov-2/analiza-cazuri-confirmate-covid19/):

- "S[x] Informare cazuri cu variante care determina ingrijorare" (about sequencing and variants in circulation)

- "Raport saptamanal (Episaptamana [x] 2022)" (this is the most important report, because it summarizes how many infected and dead people, by vaccination status, were in the last week - unfortunately data are melted together, all the ages)

Regarding the deaths and vaccinations, the government publishes here: https://stirioficiale.ro/informatii each day official information. The deaths are communicated by age cohorts and by vaccinated / unvaccinated status.

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"Burgundy knows those damn rating systems are flawed; they don't take into account houses that have more than two television sets... And other things of that nature" - Wes Mantooth (Vince Vaughn) in Anchorman

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Seems the PHS official is too stupid to realize he/she just gave away the game in explicit language:

"What we are going to do is ...try and make people understand how effective the vaccine is."

That is, we have our conclusion, and now we are going to try to only show numbers that support our conclusion.

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And it spoke all these words, saying:

§1. I am COVID your god

§2. There shalt not be other god unto you for at least two years. Maybe more.

§3. Keep the holy lockdowns

§4. You shalt not approach any other human closer than 2 meters (or 6 feet)

§5. You shalt wear the holy Mask at all times. It's the sign of eternal covenant between you and me. Except when you sit down at restaurants. Or if you are a member of my priesthood.

§6. Vaccines are safe

§7. Vaccines are effective

§8. You shalt never dispute that vaccines are safe or effective

§9. You shalt sacrifice your children to me by forcing them to wear the holy Mask at all times, instilling in them the crippling fear of Me for the rest of their pathetic little insignificant lives.

§10. You must silence all those who do not believe in me. If they refuse to shut up, exterminate them.

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Daleks undoubtedly have a more concise list.

Here you go: https://imgbox.com/cSYotC3J

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"VAC-CI-NA-TE!" (repeat ad nauseam).

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meine güte

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Can we extrapolate from that and conclude that those catching covid in the weeks or month after their booster get sicker and/or stay infectious for longer? Would not surprise me.

My partner and I are unvaccinated and omicron was a breeze. I had muscle aches and a runny nose for 3 days, then felt tired for a further 4 days. My partner just had sniffles for two days. Meanwhile, my partner's recently boosted sister and brother-in-law (a couple years younger than us) both had fever, headache and other debilitating symptoms that really took it out of them for over a week.

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That's not even close.

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Numbers alone cannot express how well these shots work. All future reports will be released in 128 pt. Font declaring: they are safe and highly effective.

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They also made a calculation that they would not suffer any political cost by eliminating transparency on the vaccines

That will surely convince the unvaccinated now!

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Page 60: "Unvaccinated: An individual that has had no doses of COVID-19 vaccine and has

tested positive for COVID-19 by PCR or has had one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and

has tested positive less than or equal to 21 days after their first dose of COVID-19

vaccine."

The key to good science is playing word games with definitions.

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That is a requisite of Covid Science: There MUST be jiggering of definitions.

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They've publicly admitted defeat.

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Here’s what leaves me scratching my head: we all know the vaccines essentially work the same way across populations and nations. So why is data from Scotland so different from the data coming out of other countries?

For example, the data in the US is COMPLETELY different, with most hospitals showing unvaxxed being 12-15x more likely to be hospitalized and die. How on earth do we reconcile this with the data coming out of Scotland?

Is it the case that Scotland is a relatively “unsophisticated” country and not adept at manipulating data the way the US and other larger western countries are? Was Scotland just doing an unfiltered data dump because it didn’t have the “skills” to tweak its data?

Keep in mind that we now know US hospitals have been adept at skewing hospital data for COVID patients:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/many-nyc-patients-hospitalized-with-covid-admitted-for-other-reasons/

(The same thing has been happening in the U.K. and Germany, btw).

I’m wondering if Scotland has a higher concentration of “independent” hospitals that aren’t owned by large corporations and therefore aren’t beholden to the same bullshit record keeping standards. Thoughts??

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I'm pretty sure, it's all about how good you are at vaccinating those most at-risk of dying. These are people who are going to die anyway, and they're also as a rule harder to vaccinate (because they live at the margins of society, they're shut in, etc.).

So if you're bad at vaccinating them, they die and count as unvaccinated deaths, and the vaccines look AMAZING.

If you're good at vaccinating them, like Scotland, they die anyway and count as vaccinated deaths, and the vaccines look not so good, excuse us for a second, we need to do some modelling to prove how awesome they actually are, but in a hidden way, etc.

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It worth mentioning that even if you DO vaccinate them, and they die before some arbitrary time (14 days after 2nd dose, I think), they magically are also counted as "unvaccinated." Ain't it grand how statistics and definitions are twisted to suit desired narratives and images? Really bolsters your faith in the system, doesn't it? 😶

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LOL that footnote got me, well done.

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My goodness, you should have a caveat stating "Chamber pot suggested" for the verbal diarrhea that squirts from the mouths of these bureaucrats.

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