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Just_Henry's avatar

The seasonality of all flu's, including COVID, is partially related to population-wide fluctuations in vitamin D level. Adequate, or optimized vitamin D serum levels diminishes the need for seasonal flu shots and protects from severe outcomes should one develop COVID.

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JennyG's avatar

Not enough exposure to sunlight?

-Indoor Staying During Winter Season Makes People More Susceptible to Flu

"Staying much time indoor, away from contact of sunlight during winter season lowers the vitamin D level in human body."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27426715/

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SashaK's avatar

Many Italian garment factories are Chinese owned and staffed by Chinese. Blocks of Milan are bought by Chinese. Massive influx of Chinese often commuting from Italy to China and back. When you buy an inexpensive item marked " Made in Italy" read "made in italy by chinese".

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eugyppius's avatar

exactly right

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Stoichastic's avatar

Which made the Giro d'Italia doubly repugnant with the constant "Made in Italy" government advertising everywhere.

"Made in Italy by Chinese workers in Chinese owned factories with all proceeds returning to China".

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FLR's avatar

There are in fact 300,000 Chinese guest workers in Italy, working in garment and leather industries. I forget the region that it is the epicenter of this, but it is not Milano. The Chinese bought a lot of Italian names that were faltering due to high labor costs, but then wanted to keep the "Made in Italy" label, so they shipped in the labor. How they negotiated (bribed politicians?) is something I have not researched yet.

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FLR's avatar

Here is an article from the New Yorker. The epicentre that I referred to was Prato in Tuscany but there are probably many more if my 300k number is correct. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany

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Stoichastic's avatar

It's the Belt and Road initiative. It's the virus spreading throughout the world. The cells are weak, immunity is down as the politicians have no spine, and the spike protein is basically money and the appearance of a growing economy.

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JennyG's avatar

Lombardy region has been said to have one of the worst air qualities in Europe due to smog. Pre-existing respiratory diseases.

Wuhan is said to have vitamin D deficiencies due to lack of sunshine(valley?) and there is smog.

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These Current Years's avatar

I've always thought (for less scientific reasons) that it must have started: 1.) Before the death of Kary Mullis on August 7th, and 2.) Before the Gates Foundation bought $55M of Biontech (now worth $550M) on August 29, 2019, and probably 3.) Before the filming of Amazon's Utopia, which commenced in late May, and wrapped on October 16th, just 2 days before Event 201.

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These Current Years's avatar

The infamous "Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence" NIH project, with its $666k grant ended on May 31, 2019. Sounds about right.

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These Current Years's avatar

One last comment on the timeline: In researching the dynamics at play with CV, looking back at how HIV/AIDS played out was very informative. This article was retracted more than 5 years post publication on October 29, 2019. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172096/

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Cairn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Thank you Slugdaddy for the article. Good to know this.

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David Watson's avatar

Hospitals cause death. What a concept. Read "Less Medicine More Health." It's not really intentional, just their business model. Hospitals are like a virus. They need to maximize replication without killing the host, but some losses are inevitable.

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Holly Champaign's avatar

Yes. If there is a kernel of good out of this mess, it's the fact that this has put a significant chink in the armor of our healthcare Gods.

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Jessica's avatar

It’s upsetting. We know the testing is flawed.

Spike protein was the bio weapon. Please pray for all of the people who don’t know this & are still getting this injection.

🙏❤️🇺🇸 Jesus, heal our nation!

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Hidden Markov Respecter's avatar

Other dissident analysts noticed as early as Spring 2020 that California, with twice the population of New York, at that time had and for a long time maintained less than half the Rona case totals and death count. This was chalked up to Californians and their love of automobiles, the ultimate social distancer- made even more distant if you wear 2 masks in the car with a face-shield while driving alone [ha] -compared with mass transit reliance and high-rise human storage with ancient low-tech HVACs as hallmarks of Manhattan life. Only later did we discover that it was New York government-mandated nursing home warehousing that murdered so many elderly there. And it rarely got mentioned that the bulk Trans-Pacific roundtrip China-to-West Coast pathogen cycling may have established a small baseline immunity to sarbecoviruses, whether engineered or not.

Now the virus has an extended phenotype that has altered the social milieu in which it must find a way to thrive. By altering the way that the world's biggest democracy does democracy- now in every place the Left can command it...by mail-in balloting fraught with mischief potential -TPTB have no incentive to solve this crisis, these now permanent crises, and so they will not be solved. Expect more boosters and more medicinal suppressions and medicinal failures and more variants. Forever. An America owned by virus cheerleaders posing as Health Stasi is a stain on the planet and a danger for all.

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Anastasia's avatar

I’ve been convinced of that for a while, mostly by Twitter’s Ethical Skeptic. I appreciate you following up on this information.

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Brian Mowrey's avatar

I for one feel a lot more safe knowing that governments are freezing our sewage in case they need it later.

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Abner Knight's avatar

<broken record>World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation. — Marshall McLuhan </end broken record>

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Thank you for this followup article. I'm sorry that I just got a chance to read it. We are foolish to think that it was widespread in Europe and not in America. Around Christmas 2019, we had a respiratory infection fly through where I live that was worse than anything seen in years. The school in a small-ish town an hour away nearly shut down because most of the students and teachers were sick, people all around were coughing and hacking, and miners from the palladium mine who never got sick ended up in the hospital. I got it. I woke up in the middle of the night struggling to get air past the cement-like mucus in my throat. I coughed for months after. The same was true of others.

A friend of mine finally went to the walk-in clinic. They sent her home with a z-pac and steroids. In fact, that was the way the doctors were treating it. Everyone knew the routine. If you're not getting over "that" cold, go to the doctor and get a z-pac and steroids. End of story.

Yes, people were in the hospital, but the evening news was not splashed with stories about how we all had to hide in our houses to save our understaffed hospitals from the consequences of putting profits over patient care.

So what changed? We gave it a name.

Recently I've been reading about "Havana Syndrome" and how the sound when analyzed is just literally the mating call of crickets and cicadas, but that the state department with its Russia-fixation has caused a mass psychosis in people who now experience symptoms from a non-existent "sound" weapon. COVID is striking me as much the same thing: mass psychosis.

The "pandemic" is not COVID. The "pandemic" is public fear and the arrogance of people who have just enough knowledge to be dangerous but not nearly enough to be telling the rest of us what to do.

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Cherry Ames's avatar

That last paragraph is so powerful. Thank you for summarizing this so well.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Thank you. If you haven't found him yet, you should give El Gato Malo a look. He recently had a post about the above. It's hopeful, which I'm not always, but he makes me feel better about things. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-covid-is-catnip-for-karens

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Cherry Ames's avatar

That was a great article! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Damian's avatar

Are you familiar with Ethical Skeptics argument that, judging by the mutations of the virus which seemed advanced by early 2020 and an unprecedented reduction in CO2 levels in China in summer 2018 (locked down) that it actually began mid 2018?

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eugyppius's avatar

yes. i don’t find it totally credible but i think it’s important to think flexibly about the influenza seasons prior to the pandemic and also the underlying reasons for Corona‘a vastly reduced transmissibility/ lethality in asia-pacific countries

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JennyG's avatar

In China they were touting the use of Vitamin C injections to come out of quarantine.

The FBI raided a clinic in the US that was administering Vitamin C injections to doctors and nurses, with the same propaganda they used against all therapeutics/prophylactics. "quack science".

If you read the initial report from the WHO when they went to China, even if the data isn't accurate, the data shows it's not a "killer" virus, which suggests the IFR(infection fatality rate) is low.

Even though they're testing/including people WITH not FROM covid, after they die for any reason(car accident), the IFR is still low.

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Holly Champaign's avatar

Can you link to the specific blog post, or bluebird tweet, for those who weren't familiar with this work?

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Damian's avatar

He has referenced it a few times, like in this tweet for instance. ES never spells anything out but this is what he's saying. This tweet also references the high immunity levels seen in China's trading partners in Africa as another piece of evidence. https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1386896534038515715?s=20

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MDSmith's avatar

For the past 18 months I've been treated as a lunatic. I returned on 03 Sept 2019 from a trip to Beijing, China. Seven days later I became extremely ill, with difficulty breathing and a high-grade fever. I assumed pneumonia, but local medical services ruled that out. I was advised to rest, and my running log shows I was back on the road 10 days later, though it took me almost a month to fully recover my strength (speed) and stamina (distance).

When the pandemic hit full-force in Feb/Mar 2020, I took care of at least five people with full-blown COVID without ever becoming ill myself. In late 2020, I tested positive for the presence of antibodies. I can only point at the illness in 2019 and conclude it was COVID.

More and more the evidence points to the fact this was circulating widely in China before the end of 2019. Thank you for another piece in what I believe is a very convincing collection of evidence.

Michael Smith

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Colorado Mom's avatar

My family and everyone I know was sick as dogs in Nov/Dec of 2019. For many reasons, I think it was the Rona.

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Alice Smith's avatar

Did Australia have it in August 2019 when we had a severe flu outbreak. Same excess deaths 2019 as Sweden 2020? Lots of Chinese students studying in Australia. University holidays in July so lots of students would have gone back home for a few weeks and returned late July 2019?

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FLR's avatar

This is a topic of interest to me, as discussed in comments to the previous article, because I believe that I contracted corona in November 2019 in Sydney in a hotel with majority Chinese guests. I looked into flu at the time because Nov is 2 months outside the flu season. 2019 was a bad year but it started (March) and peaked early. Officially the flu season in AU ends in September.

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Maxwell agent 99's avatar

Hello

I just posted a comment that I believe I contracted the virus on 12 Jan 2020 at concert Hunter Valley Aus. Still have long Covid symptoms and forced to be vaxxed or no job..

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RDobson's avatar

I remember reading this almost 2 years ago. Curiously, when Trump began calling for extraordinary measures in early January, the Democrats mocked him. Apparently they can't read.

https://patch.com/california/pacificpalisades/early-flu-deaths-hint-nasty-flu-season-california

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Lucian Popa's avatar

If the genomic sequence was published on January 9-10, 2020 and the first pcr protocols were based on the genetic structure of SARS 1, how could anyone appreciate in 2019 that those people were affected by SARS 2 precisely?

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eugyppius's avatar

they would’ve just known, based on symptoms and the positive results from their SARS-based PCR tests, that it was a SARS-related virus of some kind. we don’t know how early it was truly sequenced, either. perhaps chinese authorities did. this very early.

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