“no plan, no justification, just nothing” - that is the real net zero. ESG = CCP. China is laughing as it builds more electricity while Europe takes itself back to the stone ages.
Energy. Masks. "Vaccines." Immigration. Transinsanity. You name it, every single thing the globalists and progressives the world over believe is just as connected to the real world as the professor in this movie scene exemplifies.
It makes sense. Today's leaders the world over were educated by the same type of professor as the movie accurately portrays. And just as disconnected from the real world as a result. And just as arrogant in their ignorance. They live in Fantasyland.
Yes, I was just thinking about how the EXPERIMENTAL jab was mandated, “Or we’re all going to die!” How did that turn out? Now, this EXPERIMENTAL green agenda is mandated. Or, “We’re all going to die!”
I don't know why China bothers to spend so much money on their military, when the money they spend funding Greens is *so* much more effective at destroying their enemies. Worse, getting their enemies to destroy *themselves* and think themselves virtuous for doing so. 😕
China buying oil and gas from Russia and Iran. Building nuclear power plants. Buying coal…. They’re doing it all except not much solar and no wind power.
Who could've imagined that Brussels wants to turn an entire continent into the equivalent of a hippie commune of yesteryear?
There's no hope for people who want to cover beautiful productive fields and the glory of ocean coastlines with the unspeakably hideous monstrosities of solar and wind energy production. They want necrosis everywhere they see healthy life.
By the way--how do they think their nose rings studs and neon-colored hair dye are produced? Well of course "thinking" as we recognize the process isn't part of this.
What a grim and terrible era has managed to come around again.
Europe seems equally full of idiot men and women both, at this moment in time.
As I commented over on another Substack this morning, the best men of two generations were destroyed, one way or another, by two wars in the previous century and we've been paying all those terrible costs ever since.
Ursula seems to have 7 children. All royalties have several. Klaus has at least one daughter, not sure if she has kids. I can't say anything about any of the other female politicians, but I think ALL politicians should be abolished, as none seem to have any knowledge about anything they are deciding on.
No, the EU should be abolished. Politicians and bureaucrats should be responsible to the people and the people should be able to vote them out. The EU was designed specifically to remove the people from holding these bureaucrats accountable.
Yes, the EU is a total disaster. It was okay to have the Benelux, being 3 tiny countries together, but the moment it got bigger, it went all off the rails. I left shortly after the Euro was introduced, another thing we had no say in. Glad I am gone! It seems to go from bad to worse.
Eugyppius, while I can sympathise wholeheartedly with your post, in the UK our own dear Energy Minister plans to achieve “Net Zero” in the not too distant future. We will be beggared, frozen, and left with no means to reverse his insane plans. His ears are closed to the many entreaties from experts who can explain to him the simple physics which render his policies unworkable, but there is a madness in the UK (as elsewhere) and the future here is grim if he cannot be stopped.
I was told recently that Millibrain had 'A' levels in maths & physics. If that is so, & assuming he obtained them legitimately, then he must know that he is spouting nonsense. OTOH, if he actually believes the drivel he is preaching . . . how did he get the 'A' levels?
My dog, Hector, seems to understand except when I stop speaking and then goes to the food. Or, I've bored him and he is fast asleep, dreaming of kibble.
As you say, whether manmade climate change is real or not doesn't really matter. The brainwashed people in charge of the western world believe it is real. They believe we are all going to die if we don't close down our coal-fired power stations and replace them with turbines and solar panels. They don't care that they don't understand the science involved in generating reliable electricity. They don't care that the non-western world is ploughing ahead with business-as-normal, supplying us with all this eco crap made using electricity from coal-fired power stations. They are the zealots put in place by the money makers/takers to be the "face of change". Here in the UK, Mad Ed Milliband really seems to believe all the nonsense he spouts, even though it's clear he doesn't actually understand what he is saying. We live in a totally short-term world where, by the time the lights go out, those who facilitated the catastrophe will have retired on nice pensions to places like Florida. (Apparently, it'll be no good retiring to Australia or New Zealand because they are just as crazy about destroying their ability to live). I think it's terrifying although, on the plus side, maybe all the immigrants will leave when we are poorer than the countries they came from!
Getting people to believe unreal things seems to be the goal of the elite. A citizenry that can be made to deny reality - in weather, medicine, biology, whatever - can be led anywhere.
Hmmm ... could the proliferation of nose rings be a sign?
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
- Voltaire
At least as far back as before the United States of America was founded. Trivia: Ben Franklin was a fan of Voltaire's. Voltaire became a Free Mason after meeting Franklin.
Climate change is the one non-falsifiable dogma that the left will cling to until the end. If there is bad weather, aha, it's climate change. If there isn't bad whether, "just you wait, it's right around the corner". While most of the rest of leftist non-sense is being ground into dust, climate change will endure.
In the USA it is fading . Trump has hit the left with so many punches they can’t focus . Also , polling ,even during Biden showed “ climate change “ near the bottom of anyone’s concerns .
Carney just committed Canada to net zero and has s placing huge taxes on citizens. This is so he could sell steel and other products to the EU. The EU turned around and is giving subsidies to those same industries on the European continent.
Ed Miliband (according to WikiP) studied physics, maths and further maths to A-level and was good enough to get into Oxford*. So he must understand that he's spouting nonsense.
* Where he read PPE, a bizarre choice unless you're a hereditary Labour princeling, who's had his name down for a safe seat since birth.
yeah! I do keep thinking we might just get our poverty-stricken countries back when we cant offer them anything but cold and hunger. My other cold comfort is that digital id and AI will have to disappear when we go back to medieval times.
Stuffsays You are correct about Australia being crazy about destroying their ability to live. Today 9/7/2025 John Grimes - Chief Executive of the Smart Energy Council was at the National Press Club:
Duration: 1 hour 2 minutes 57 seconds1h 2m
John Grimes, Chief Executive of the Smart Energy Council, addresses the National Press Club on the topic of "Power politics: The political power of Australia's renewable energy industry". (Available on our national broadcaster, the ABC )
This address was all about how we need renewables and how fossil fuels are a thing of the past and the press were mostly lapping it up with frequent applause. Only a few dissenting voices asked sceptical questions. What hope do we have here in the land of abundant resources of coal and gas which we sell to mostly China? I despair.
I have been sending the CERES link left and right, with Dr. Willie Soon explaining how climate change is not real. He does such a great job at it, and with so much zeal, that everyone should see it.
The absolute tragedy that is Germany these days. I hold a fondness for the beautiful country I visited in the 80's. I took my children to see in 2015. It was a dreadful shock - and everybody walked around defending the invading hordes and Mama Merkel (🤮) like Stockholm victims.
In the meantime the Uniparty ( CDU/SPD/ Greens) have done their damnedest to inflict as much damage as possible. Their self- hatred has been weaponised to a frightening degree.
Don't misunderstand me - but I believe a bullet in 1945 would have been kinder than what has been done to Germany in the 80 years since.
In the first day of Merkel my German friend, now 96, told me this woman was the ruin of Germany. My old friend now has dementia, but she sure was right.
I lived in Germany for a total of 8 years. In winter it is dreary and rain drizzles. There is not enough sunlight to use photovoltaics and little wind. So, it sounds like they have the perfect plan....LOL
Hydrogen is not a source fuel. You have to burn hydrocarbons to create hydrogen. Are these idiots trying to fool themselves they are "going green" by using hydrogen?
they are placing their hopes in “green hydrogen”, achieved via electrolysis from excess renewable power generation. but it’s not economically viable because grey hydrogen is cheaper and for other reasons too it just isn’t going to happen.
Again, not an expert here, so just somewhat educated speculations. One of the biggest problems with hydrogen is not even producing it, it is storing it. It is much worse than even LNG. The critical temperature of H2 is something like 39K (-240C, -160C for LNG). You just cannot liquefy it above this temperature. This means that either you have to store it at absolutely terrifying pressure (dangerous!), or have to go to such low temperature. Both options are hell from the economics perspective, that is why we still do not have good safe and affordable hydrogen-driven cars, even though that would be awesome from the energy density perspective. Imaging having a "nice green nuclear plant", producing tons of electricity that is used for electrolysis, and than you have a "hydrogen station" to refuel your car. :)
Sweden decided to go all in on green steel , ie steel made using hydrogen for reduction of Fe2O3 instead of carbon. Now, thanks to a small thinking glitch they decided to implement this before inventing nuclear fusion plants or even building instead of shutting down nuclear power plants and a few (evil) people are raising the point that this consumes much more energy than Sweden produces . That aside a few people promising this new green future are making themselves very wealthy on behalf of the many
Shutting down half of the reactors, in fact. The rest are what, 50-60 years old by now, and are often taken offline for maintenance.
And the EU just barred Sweden from continue to depend on the Karlshamn emergency power plant (oil-powered!) any more, because Sweden has been running Karlshamn 24/7 for a couple of years now.
Sweden is way ahead of Germany in its climate-insanity; we're on the brink of the next Red-Green governement making questioning climate change a crime.
Fusion power will never happen. There's enormous amounts of fissile material fueling fission nuclear power plants available for thousands of years.
Worse, the only research project to demonstrate steady state fusion and net energy production is not at least two decades late with no sign that it will be finished and ready to go in the next decade.
Another of the biggest problems is that hydrogen is very dangerous to transport and use. It is not like natural gas at all. It ignites at very low concentrations in air, it has a very high flame speed ("bang!" not "whoosh"), and it burns very hot. Any leaks or equipment malfunctions are suddenly much bigger problems.
May be the idea is to use hydrogen as some kind of "energy storage"? In theory you can do enough electrolysis (e.g., using renewable energy from wind and sun) to produce hydrogen, store it, and then burn it at a windless night? Just speculating here... I do not think electrolysis is economically viable at such an industrial level...
That's all it is. Hydrogen is a battery, that's all. Source fuels are mined -- they exist in free state somewhere and humans exploit them. You can't create source fuels, it's a (slightly less than) zero sum game.
Now, if you could mine the sun's photosphere or the Jovian atmosphere then yes -- hydrogen could become a true source fuel. But almost certainly not economically.
Fortunately, "expert" mostly inhabit the areas of human knowledge which heavily overlapped with political stuff. Whenever you get away from that, there is still a lot of hard science where people usually know what they know and know what they do not know, and are typically not shy to talk about what belongs to these two categories. Wikipedia is not always trustworthy, but articles on science are usually good, at least as a starting point, to get the big picture, learn keywords, and see some references to real scientific literature (e.g., peer-reviewed papers). The article "Atmosphere of Jupiter" is one of those.
No, it's not just assumptions. The spectroscopy evidence from Jupiter and the planet's known mass is all consistent with 76% hydrogen content and 24% helium content. For all practical purposes, Jupiter and Saturn are identical in element composition.
Jupiter's mass and gravitational field are sufficiently enormous that the hydrogen at its core will be in metallic form.
This is not guessing; it's based on spectroscopic observation from earth and instrument flybys from a number of unmanned space probes, the most informative of which was the Galileo space probe in 1995. A large amount of additional information was provided when Comet Shoemaker-Levy impacted Jupiter in 1994.
So actually there's a great deal of established fact about Jupiter. Jupiter, for example, is a key reason why life exists on Earth at all. With its giant gravity well, Jupiter has been sweeping up large orbital objects in our solar system that would otherwise repeatedly have exterminated all life on our planet as Chicxulub nearly did 65 million years ago.
Colin, do you believe men landed on the Moon? Do you believe NASA’s many lies? We humans cannot access what is called “space”. Why is there no genuine photograph from “space” of our Earth? Space probes? I doubt it.
Thanks for the overview. It is amazing to me what radio astronomy can tell us about places no one has visited. I just started re reading Carl Sagan’s book Cosmos which talks about this among many other things.
Last time I paid attention, it was doctrine that the upper atmosphere was pretty much all methane, which frankly isn't a bad consolation prize as far as energy goes.
Another huge point is turning these energy plants on and off isn't like hitting the light switch. There is a huge amount of things that go into starting up power generation and the same with powering down. While I'm no engineer, even I know there is an immense challenge switching fuel sources (coal or oil to solar and back). They think they can alternate between power sources with ease is just absurd.
Thank you, Germany, for continuing to show the world how stupid you are. Hopefully, you continue to be the shining beam of progressive left woke insanity. At least this way, the US can look at everything you are doing and do the complete opposite.
I have to congratulate the brave people of the US who voted for Trump. I know he is not perfect and he does leave me wondering at times but somehow he seems a lot more sane than the current crop of democrats. Incidentally I do work with people from the US who become positively hysterical when Trump is remotely in discussion. All quite bizarre! I do hope you guys keep going in the opposite direction! It gives us hope here in Europe!
I voted for him because I knew things couldn’t continue as they were. We were headed for destruction. Those loud-mouths who rant over Trump feel it’s ok to spew their hatred because, for a time, it was “cool” to sh!t-talk about him. Those of us who are not afraid to speak up quickly put them in their place. BTW: I doubt the nay-sayers will change their tunes when they come out financially better via no tax on tips, social security and some other nice bennies they’ll be reaping.
We in the firearms community used to depend on England and Australia to do the same for us. So comforting when local idiots proposed bootless "gun safety" confiscations to be able to point to one or both of them and say, "They already did this, and made things worse." Very frustrating for the native totalitarians.
You should point to us here in Sweden. We're top of the class in this regard.
Until 1935, Sweden had no license-laws for firearms.
You could legally own a fully automatic submachinegun and keep it at home.
And gun violence was virtually non-existent.
Until the 1990s, many military men - whether active or conscripts or Home Guard - kept their service weapons at home. AK-47s, AK-5s, m/45s, et cetera.
Virtually no gun violence.
Nowadays when you need a license to own an air rifle powerful enough to shoot rats with, shootings are so common they don't even make the news unless it's something spectacular, and even then it doesn't stay in the news-cycle more than maybe a couple of hours.
I am glad I live in a country whose chief executive hates wind power because windmills kill migratory birds and hates solar power because without taxpayer subsidies it is not viable. So we will remain warm in the winter and cool in the summer while Germans try to figure out what went wrong with their magical thinking about energy.
The good news is that the EUs suicide pact will be another warning to US citizens of the dangers of utopianism and help us foster our industrial strength.
we in the US can hope but I'm not so sure. use to think euro countries were 10+ years ahead of us chasing these follies. that gap has closed to 4 yrs (1 election cycle).
We are risking catastrophic electrical grid failures ... for absolutely no reason.
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We are risking it for very good reasons. The layer of society charged with running everything have a series of mental models implanted inside their minds, primarily by university lecturers. These models are now part of their identity and are strenuously maintained even in the face of overwhelming evidence or data that contradicts their precious ideas. As you say, it doesn't matter if they are right or wrong in objective terms.
These models now govern our world and are common across the West:
All humans are more or less the same and ethnic differences are fiction; men and women too are substantially the same, any deviation from this is oppression; climate can be controlled by human beings planning 80 years into the future; nation-states create ethnoracists and should be upgraded to generic economic zones; and on and on.
None of it is true and none of that matters. They will do anything to keep the little pictures in their heads intact. That's why sensible criticisms about "renewables" is clearly homophobic racist misogyny.
You can add biology, economics, math... pretty much anything reality-based.
As I mentioned elsewhere recently during a discussion about the phrase "assigned at birth" -- these people think their sex as determined by the physical meat dongles they were born with is arbitrary, but their sex as revealed to them in a dream by a silver unicorn is authoritative.
There are probably no more delusional idiots, who think they know something about technology, when in fact they have no clue whatsoever, than today's journalism graduates.
Classic Marxist tactics - have a gaggle of Marxist profs cook up a vocabulary tool box, then get lower-tier "academics" and journalists to propagate the new terms _ad nauseam_ until it becomes part of many people's unexamined mental furniture.
Its more of a religious-ideological belief system ; if you bring up physics/industrial reasons as to why something will not work they hate you with religious zealotry and you are the bad heathen person
George, that's not the way these things play out. The EU cannot and will not be abolished. Idiot governments don't 'wither away' as the delusional Karl Marx fantasized. What happens is that their captive peoples desert them. We saw this in Europe 150 years ago. Increasingly delusional autocratic governments in Europe became so impossible that their peoples fled them by the millions, emigrating to other countries and places.
We've seen this in the United States. The increasingly socialist dictatorial states like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey and Massachusetts are hemoraging people to better states like Texas, Florida, the Carolinas, Arizona, Georgia.
The same thing is happening in cities. Detroit was once the fifth largest city in the US. It's now down to a mere 660.000. In all of the above cases, malevolently incompetent socialist governments make people want to leave their jurisdiction. That's why all socialist states throughout history have had to create national fortified borders to keep their own population trapped.
So, in short, the solution to the insanity of the EU and Germany is that both will simply depopulate by those who are skilled leaving for just about anywhere else more promising. This has happened many times in the past. Babylon and Memphis were once the greatest cities in the world. They are now merely broken ruins abandoned for thousands of years. Percy Shelley understood this at the end of the 18th century.
Indeed! Florida and Texas are growing like wild fire. Any state that has "sane" leadership is being deluged by people from New York and California. It's actually pretty crazy.
The hubris associated with the climate religion is stifling.
A short story:
I went to a milonga (tango dancing) in Berlin. Had a particularly lovely connection with a woman from Dresden, until I told her my company had discovered commercial amounts of gas in Brandenburg. Connection lost: she spent the rest of the evening giving me stink-eye from across the room. …like I was some kind of rapist or something…
Austria is in a stronger position than many, but it’s not immune. Without focused investments in reliability and flexibility, the system’s stability won’t be guaranteed for long.
The country is often praised for its clean and stable electricity supply, largely thanks to hydropower. But behind the good headlines, structural weaknesses are becoming harder to ignore. For the Green Party, the principle seems to be: where there is political will, a wind turbine will follow, even in regions where the wind rarely blows.
Hydropower depends on rainfall. In dry seasons or cold winters with low water levels, output drops significantly. Without enough storage or backup, shortages become a real risk, especially when wind and solar fall short too.
Austria is part of the European power grid. In peak demand periods, it relies on imports. When neighboring countries run into trouble, Austria feels the impact, through soaring prices or potential supply gaps.
Political goals like “100% renewable electricity by 2030” lack solid backup plans. Without clear strategies for balancing the grid, they remain more aspirational than actionable.
Recently there was a project being formulated of a pump storage hydro plant in Styria (on the Teichalm). Local protests killed it before detail planning. Imagine being offered a free new alpine lake, local power gen, and a bit of good employment and wigging out.
A few years before, a market garden on the Styrian-Burgenland border wanted to build a geothermal plant to meet their own heat needs and amortize faster by selling the balance of the heat + electrical power. This was killed by the need for various slow and expensive environmental consultations and certification, for a totally safe and zero-carbon plant.
Impossible to build anything in Austria between overall anti-development fanatics and NIMBY retards.
The last off-ramp would have been if Kreisky had just opened Zwentendorf and held the protesters under the Danube until the bubbles stopped. Instead he caved, and, in an environment of heavy anti-nuclear FUD, held a referendum to ask the hoi polloi about a technology they had no remote hope of understanding. The same man is still venerated by those who deplore “populism”.
Wish I could be around to see how that training goes for the new staff in the gas plants. Current generations are great for doing that kind of work.
I was GM of a water/wastewater utility on a barrier island. Before 1990 we used to offer summer jobs to local high school students, picking athletes when possible. This is riding around in a truck doing various easy jobs, sometimes having to dig a three-foot hole, taking turns at digging, to get to a valve or pipe. The last two were football players. Both quit after two days citing the reason as being "the work was too hard."
eugyppius. that's exactly what it is. All the people who designed and built the large scale nuclear power programs in the United States, Canada, Britain, Germany, Japan, Sweden, France are now all long since retired or deceased. The skills to build new nuclear power plants no longer exists in any of them. Outside of Communist China and India, the only remaining nuclear expertise for building new nuclear power plants resides in South Korea (KHNP) and Framatome in France.
It's much the same thing with industrial infrastructure. Much of that is long gone as well.
“no plan, no justification, just nothing” - that is the real net zero. ESG = CCP. China is laughing as it builds more electricity while Europe takes itself back to the stone ages.
Like the meme says, 'YOU are the carbon they want to eliminate.'
Fantasyland: Germany and the EU
Rodney Dangerfield
Thornton Talks Business
Back To School
https://youtu.be/uSLscJ2cY04
Energy. Masks. "Vaccines." Immigration. Transinsanity. You name it, every single thing the globalists and progressives the world over believe is just as connected to the real world as the professor in this movie scene exemplifies.
It makes sense. Today's leaders the world over were educated by the same type of professor as the movie accurately portrays. And just as disconnected from the real world as a result. And just as arrogant in their ignorance. They live in Fantasyland.
Yes, I was just thinking about how the EXPERIMENTAL jab was mandated, “Or we’re all going to die!” How did that turn out? Now, this EXPERIMENTAL green agenda is mandated. Or, “We’re all going to die!”
Brilliant film BTW.
I don't know why China bothers to spend so much money on their military, when the money they spend funding Greens is *so* much more effective at destroying their enemies. Worse, getting their enemies to destroy *themselves* and think themselves virtuous for doing so. 😕
Oooh! Profound!!!
Building more using coal and diesel.
That’s the China model .
^^This!!^^
Stone Age with CBDC and digital controls. Social adherence or your bank account gets frozen.
China buying oil and gas from Russia and Iran. Building nuclear power plants. Buying coal…. They’re doing it all except not much solar and no wind power.
Who could've imagined that Brussels wants to turn an entire continent into the equivalent of a hippie commune of yesteryear?
There's no hope for people who want to cover beautiful productive fields and the glory of ocean coastlines with the unspeakably hideous monstrosities of solar and wind energy production. They want necrosis everywhere they see healthy life.
By the way--how do they think their nose rings studs and neon-colored hair dye are produced? Well of course "thinking" as we recognize the process isn't part of this.
What a grim and terrible era has managed to come around again.
"Who could've imagined that Brussels wants to turn an entire continent into the equivalent of a hippie commune of yesteryear?"
Of the top poobahs in the EU, what percentage are women? Just asking.
Europe seems equally full of idiot men and women both, at this moment in time.
As I commented over on another Substack this morning, the best men of two generations were destroyed, one way or another, by two wars in the previous century and we've been paying all those terrible costs ever since.
And what percentage of those women are childless hags who hate themselves and everyone else? My guess is close to 100%.
Ursula seems to have 7 children. All royalties have several. Klaus has at least one daughter, not sure if she has kids. I can't say anything about any of the other female politicians, but I think ALL politicians should be abolished, as none seem to have any knowledge about anything they are deciding on.
No, the EU should be abolished. Politicians and bureaucrats should be responsible to the people and the people should be able to vote them out. The EU was designed specifically to remove the people from holding these bureaucrats accountable.
Yes, the EU is a total disaster. It was okay to have the Benelux, being 3 tiny countries together, but the moment it got bigger, it went all off the rails. I left shortly after the Euro was introduced, another thing we had no say in. Glad I am gone! It seems to go from bad to worse.
I’m afraid the gremlins snuck in and reorganized the tubes whilst no one was looking.
Klaws & Co. or whoever his replacement is, are running the show. The EU bureaucrats do as they are told.
and the fake hair extensions.... or the real hair extensions made of "slave" Uyghur hair
both a product of China.
Yes, it's remarkable the point at which environmental and social concerns vaporize via the pressures of consumer demand.
Only the Europeans have these sensibilities. China is not cursed with such frivolousness.
And wind power cannot exist in the marketplace on its own. It must be subsidized. That is not actually what you call “sustainable.”
hippie commune of yesteryear, subjugated, raped, and killed by seventh century barbarians
Well, that's just an expansion on how those communes usually self-destructed.
Corruption and sloth bring about the inevitable destruction of communes. Especially as they outgrow their britches..
Eugyppius, while I can sympathise wholeheartedly with your post, in the UK our own dear Energy Minister plans to achieve “Net Zero” in the not too distant future. We will be beggared, frozen, and left with no means to reverse his insane plans. His ears are closed to the many entreaties from experts who can explain to him the simple physics which render his policies unworkable, but there is a madness in the UK (as elsewhere) and the future here is grim if he cannot be stopped.
I was told recently that Millibrain had 'A' levels in maths & physics. If that is so, & assuming he obtained them legitimately, then he must know that he is spouting nonsense. OTOH, if he actually believes the drivel he is preaching . . . how did he get the 'A' levels?
Well... now, it's a question of policy.
OK.
No.
Or, if he did, he's forgotten everything.
Trying to explain anything even vaguely technical to most politicians is like trying to explain to your dog why he can't have unlimited kibble.
My dog, Hector, seems to understand except when I stop speaking and then goes to the food. Or, I've bored him and he is fast asleep, dreaming of kibble.
It's okay - the Caliphate of the East Atlantic Islands will not run on electricity.
In the USA we are beginning to beat back the greens .
Big Orange Boss sez no.
Orange beats Green in a head to head contest.
As you say, whether manmade climate change is real or not doesn't really matter. The brainwashed people in charge of the western world believe it is real. They believe we are all going to die if we don't close down our coal-fired power stations and replace them with turbines and solar panels. They don't care that they don't understand the science involved in generating reliable electricity. They don't care that the non-western world is ploughing ahead with business-as-normal, supplying us with all this eco crap made using electricity from coal-fired power stations. They are the zealots put in place by the money makers/takers to be the "face of change". Here in the UK, Mad Ed Milliband really seems to believe all the nonsense he spouts, even though it's clear he doesn't actually understand what he is saying. We live in a totally short-term world where, by the time the lights go out, those who facilitated the catastrophe will have retired on nice pensions to places like Florida. (Apparently, it'll be no good retiring to Australia or New Zealand because they are just as crazy about destroying their ability to live). I think it's terrifying although, on the plus side, maybe all the immigrants will leave when we are poorer than the countries they came from!
Getting people to believe unreal things seems to be the goal of the elite. A citizenry that can be made to deny reality - in weather, medicine, biology, whatever - can be led anywhere.
Hmmm ... could the proliferation of nose rings be a sign?
It's a socialist method of conquer and control acknowledged as far back as Orwell.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
- Voltaire
At least as far back as before the United States of America was founded. Trivia: Ben Franklin was a fan of Voltaire's. Voltaire became a Free Mason after meeting Franklin.
I think it’s their own private joke. “Look at what we made em do! Hahaha!”
Climate change is the one non-falsifiable dogma that the left will cling to until the end. If there is bad weather, aha, it's climate change. If there isn't bad whether, "just you wait, it's right around the corner". While most of the rest of leftist non-sense is being ground into dust, climate change will endure.
In the USA it is fading . Trump has hit the left with so many punches they can’t focus . Also , polling ,even during Biden showed “ climate change “ near the bottom of anyone’s concerns .
It may sound like that Ray, but Trump's agenda is the same new world order agenda, just with different actors.
Carney just committed Canada to net zero and has s placing huge taxes on citizens. This is so he could sell steel and other products to the EU. The EU turned around and is giving subsidies to those same industries on the European continent.
Ed Miliband (according to WikiP) studied physics, maths and further maths to A-level and was good enough to get into Oxford*. So he must understand that he's spouting nonsense.
* Where he read PPE, a bizarre choice unless you're a hereditary Labour princeling, who's had his name down for a safe seat since birth.
yeah! I do keep thinking we might just get our poverty-stricken countries back when we cant offer them anything but cold and hunger. My other cold comfort is that digital id and AI will have to disappear when we go back to medieval times.
Stuffsays You are correct about Australia being crazy about destroying their ability to live. Today 9/7/2025 John Grimes - Chief Executive of the Smart Energy Council was at the National Press Club:
Duration: 1 hour 2 minutes 57 seconds1h 2m
John Grimes, Chief Executive of the Smart Energy Council, addresses the National Press Club on the topic of "Power politics: The political power of Australia's renewable energy industry". (Available on our national broadcaster, the ABC )
This address was all about how we need renewables and how fossil fuels are a thing of the past and the press were mostly lapping it up with frequent applause. Only a few dissenting voices asked sceptical questions. What hope do we have here in the land of abundant resources of coal and gas which we sell to mostly China? I despair.
I have been sending the CERES link left and right, with Dr. Willie Soon explaining how climate change is not real. He does such a great job at it, and with so much zeal, that everyone should see it.
Where is the link?
https://climatethemovie.net/
The absolute tragedy that is Germany these days. I hold a fondness for the beautiful country I visited in the 80's. I took my children to see in 2015. It was a dreadful shock - and everybody walked around defending the invading hordes and Mama Merkel (🤮) like Stockholm victims.
In the meantime the Uniparty ( CDU/SPD/ Greens) have done their damnedest to inflict as much damage as possible. Their self- hatred has been weaponised to a frightening degree.
Don't misunderstand me - but I believe a bullet in 1945 would have been kinder than what has been done to Germany in the 80 years since.
I am heartbroken for a once proud People.
In the first day of Merkel my German friend, now 96, told me this woman was the ruin of Germany. My old friend now has dementia, but she sure was right.
I lived in Germany for a total of 8 years. In winter it is dreary and rain drizzles. There is not enough sunlight to use photovoltaics and little wind. So, it sounds like they have the perfect plan....LOL
Hydrogen is not a source fuel. You have to burn hydrocarbons to create hydrogen. Are these idiots trying to fool themselves they are "going green" by using hydrogen?
they are placing their hopes in “green hydrogen”, achieved via electrolysis from excess renewable power generation. but it’s not economically viable because grey hydrogen is cheaper and for other reasons too it just isn’t going to happen.
Again, not an expert here, so just somewhat educated speculations. One of the biggest problems with hydrogen is not even producing it, it is storing it. It is much worse than even LNG. The critical temperature of H2 is something like 39K (-240C, -160C for LNG). You just cannot liquefy it above this temperature. This means that either you have to store it at absolutely terrifying pressure (dangerous!), or have to go to such low temperature. Both options are hell from the economics perspective, that is why we still do not have good safe and affordable hydrogen-driven cars, even though that would be awesome from the energy density perspective. Imaging having a "nice green nuclear plant", producing tons of electricity that is used for electrolysis, and than you have a "hydrogen station" to refuel your car. :)
Sweden decided to go all in on green steel , ie steel made using hydrogen for reduction of Fe2O3 instead of carbon. Now, thanks to a small thinking glitch they decided to implement this before inventing nuclear fusion plants or even building instead of shutting down nuclear power plants and a few (evil) people are raising the point that this consumes much more energy than Sweden produces . That aside a few people promising this new green future are making themselves very wealthy on behalf of the many
Shutting down half of the reactors, in fact. The rest are what, 50-60 years old by now, and are often taken offline for maintenance.
And the EU just barred Sweden from continue to depend on the Karlshamn emergency power plant (oil-powered!) any more, because Sweden has been running Karlshamn 24/7 for a couple of years now.
Sweden is way ahead of Germany in its climate-insanity; we're on the brink of the next Red-Green governement making questioning climate change a crime.
"inventing nuclear fusion plants" - a man can dream! :)
Fusion power will never happen. There's enormous amounts of fissile material fueling fission nuclear power plants available for thousands of years.
Worse, the only research project to demonstrate steady state fusion and net energy production is not at least two decades late with no sign that it will be finished and ready to go in the next decade.
Another of the biggest problems is that hydrogen is very dangerous to transport and use. It is not like natural gas at all. It ignites at very low concentrations in air, it has a very high flame speed ("bang!" not "whoosh"), and it burns very hot. Any leaks or equipment malfunctions are suddenly much bigger problems.
All to dodge a problem that simply doesn’t exist.
i read porsche (vw?) was developing that green/hydrogen gasoline.
May be the idea is to use hydrogen as some kind of "energy storage"? In theory you can do enough electrolysis (e.g., using renewable energy from wind and sun) to produce hydrogen, store it, and then burn it at a windless night? Just speculating here... I do not think electrolysis is economically viable at such an industrial level...
That's all it is. Hydrogen is a battery, that's all. Source fuels are mined -- they exist in free state somewhere and humans exploit them. You can't create source fuels, it's a (slightly less than) zero sum game.
Now, if you could mine the sun's photosphere or the Jovian atmosphere then yes -- hydrogen could become a true source fuel. But almost certainly not economically.
Hydrogen exists in metallic state on Jupiter, but good luck getting at it.
No one knows what Jupiter consists of. This is yet more assumptions/guesses disguised as knowledge from our "experts".
Fortunately, "expert" mostly inhabit the areas of human knowledge which heavily overlapped with political stuff. Whenever you get away from that, there is still a lot of hard science where people usually know what they know and know what they do not know, and are typically not shy to talk about what belongs to these two categories. Wikipedia is not always trustworthy, but articles on science are usually good, at least as a starting point, to get the big picture, learn keywords, and see some references to real scientific literature (e.g., peer-reviewed papers). The article "Atmosphere of Jupiter" is one of those.
No, it's not just assumptions. The spectroscopy evidence from Jupiter and the planet's known mass is all consistent with 76% hydrogen content and 24% helium content. For all practical purposes, Jupiter and Saturn are identical in element composition.
Jupiter's mass and gravitational field are sufficiently enormous that the hydrogen at its core will be in metallic form.
This is not guessing; it's based on spectroscopic observation from earth and instrument flybys from a number of unmanned space probes, the most informative of which was the Galileo space probe in 1995. A large amount of additional information was provided when Comet Shoemaker-Levy impacted Jupiter in 1994.
So actually there's a great deal of established fact about Jupiter. Jupiter, for example, is a key reason why life exists on Earth at all. With its giant gravity well, Jupiter has been sweeping up large orbital objects in our solar system that would otherwise repeatedly have exterminated all life on our planet as Chicxulub nearly did 65 million years ago.
Colin, do you believe men landed on the Moon? Do you believe NASA’s many lies? We humans cannot access what is called “space”. Why is there no genuine photograph from “space” of our Earth? Space probes? I doubt it.
Thanks for the overview. It is amazing to me what radio astronomy can tell us about places no one has visited. I just started re reading Carl Sagan’s book Cosmos which talks about this among many other things.
Last time I paid attention, it was doctrine that the upper atmosphere was pretty much all methane, which frankly isn't a bad consolation prize as far as energy goes.
It's a mixture of hydrogen and helium primarily; everything else is trace elements only.
Kirill,
Another huge point is turning these energy plants on and off isn't like hitting the light switch. There is a huge amount of things that go into starting up power generation and the same with powering down. While I'm no engineer, even I know there is an immense challenge switching fuel sources (coal or oil to solar and back). They think they can alternate between power sources with ease is just absurd.
QUOTE: Are these idiots trying to fool themselves they are "going green" by using hydrogen?
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NO. They know very well what they are doing. IT IS US they are making fools of.
To them, the _process_ of destroying the existing infrastructure and society is the real objective.
PO,
You're probably right. We can't have the "Great Reset" with functioning economies.
Thank you, Germany, for continuing to show the world how stupid you are. Hopefully, you continue to be the shining beam of progressive left woke insanity. At least this way, the US can look at everything you are doing and do the complete opposite.
I have to congratulate the brave people of the US who voted for Trump. I know he is not perfect and he does leave me wondering at times but somehow he seems a lot more sane than the current crop of democrats. Incidentally I do work with people from the US who become positively hysterical when Trump is remotely in discussion. All quite bizarre! I do hope you guys keep going in the opposite direction! It gives us hope here in Europe!
I voted for him because I knew things couldn’t continue as they were. We were headed for destruction. Those loud-mouths who rant over Trump feel it’s ok to spew their hatred because, for a time, it was “cool” to sh!t-talk about him. Those of us who are not afraid to speak up quickly put them in their place. BTW: I doubt the nay-sayers will change their tunes when they come out financially better via no tax on tips, social security and some other nice bennies they’ll be reaping.
We in the firearms community used to depend on England and Australia to do the same for us. So comforting when local idiots proposed bootless "gun safety" confiscations to be able to point to one or both of them and say, "They already did this, and made things worse." Very frustrating for the native totalitarians.
You should point to us here in Sweden. We're top of the class in this regard.
Until 1935, Sweden had no license-laws for firearms.
You could legally own a fully automatic submachinegun and keep it at home.
And gun violence was virtually non-existent.
Until the 1990s, many military men - whether active or conscripts or Home Guard - kept their service weapons at home. AK-47s, AK-5s, m/45s, et cetera.
Virtually no gun violence.
Nowadays when you need a license to own an air rifle powerful enough to shoot rats with, shootings are so common they don't even make the news unless it's something spectacular, and even then it doesn't stay in the news-cycle more than maybe a couple of hours.
And they say it’s not a cultural problem.
I am glad I live in a country whose chief executive hates wind power because windmills kill migratory birds and hates solar power because without taxpayer subsidies it is not viable. So we will remain warm in the winter and cool in the summer while Germans try to figure out what went wrong with their magical thinking about energy.
The good news is that the EUs suicide pact will be another warning to US citizens of the dangers of utopianism and help us foster our industrial strength.
we in the US can hope but I'm not so sure. use to think euro countries were 10+ years ahead of us chasing these follies. that gap has closed to 4 yrs (1 election cycle).
maybe, but I think Trump's win shows people want to fight all this leftist crap.
Looks like we may need that "wall" to keep European" immigrants out. That is other than the billionaires.
We are risking catastrophic electrical grid failures ... for absolutely no reason.
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We are risking it for very good reasons. The layer of society charged with running everything have a series of mental models implanted inside their minds, primarily by university lecturers. These models are now part of their identity and are strenuously maintained even in the face of overwhelming evidence or data that contradicts their precious ideas. As you say, it doesn't matter if they are right or wrong in objective terms.
These models now govern our world and are common across the West:
All humans are more or less the same and ethnic differences are fiction; men and women too are substantially the same, any deviation from this is oppression; climate can be controlled by human beings planning 80 years into the future; nation-states create ethnoracists and should be upgraded to generic economic zones; and on and on.
None of it is true and none of that matters. They will do anything to keep the little pictures in their heads intact. That's why sensible criticisms about "renewables" is clearly homophobic racist misogyny.
The disconnect between green ideology and physics is just stunning.
You can add biology, economics, math... pretty much anything reality-based.
As I mentioned elsewhere recently during a discussion about the phrase "assigned at birth" -- these people think their sex as determined by the physical meat dongles they were born with is arbitrary, but their sex as revealed to them in a dream by a silver unicorn is authoritative.
There are probably no more delusional idiots, who think they know something about technology, when in fact they have no clue whatsoever, than today's journalism graduates.
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Classic Marxist tactics - have a gaggle of Marxist profs cook up a vocabulary tool box, then get lower-tier "academics" and journalists to propagate the new terms _ad nauseam_ until it becomes part of many people's unexamined mental furniture.
Its more of a religious-ideological belief system ; if you bring up physics/industrial reasons as to why something will not work they hate you with religious zealotry and you are the bad heathen person
Abolish the EU?
George, that's not the way these things play out. The EU cannot and will not be abolished. Idiot governments don't 'wither away' as the delusional Karl Marx fantasized. What happens is that their captive peoples desert them. We saw this in Europe 150 years ago. Increasingly delusional autocratic governments in Europe became so impossible that their peoples fled them by the millions, emigrating to other countries and places.
We've seen this in the United States. The increasingly socialist dictatorial states like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey and Massachusetts are hemoraging people to better states like Texas, Florida, the Carolinas, Arizona, Georgia.
The same thing is happening in cities. Detroit was once the fifth largest city in the US. It's now down to a mere 660.000. In all of the above cases, malevolently incompetent socialist governments make people want to leave their jurisdiction. That's why all socialist states throughout history have had to create national fortified borders to keep their own population trapped.
So, in short, the solution to the insanity of the EU and Germany is that both will simply depopulate by those who are skilled leaving for just about anywhere else more promising. This has happened many times in the past. Babylon and Memphis were once the greatest cities in the world. They are now merely broken ruins abandoned for thousands of years. Percy Shelley understood this at the end of the 18th century.
"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
I’ll have to look into this idea. Your examples of US states is persuasive.
Indeed! Florida and Texas are growing like wild fire. Any state that has "sane" leadership is being deluged by people from New York and California. It's actually pretty crazy.
https://substack.com/@tardigrade1/note/c-133224278
The hubris associated with the climate religion is stifling.
A short story:
I went to a milonga (tango dancing) in Berlin. Had a particularly lovely connection with a woman from Dresden, until I told her my company had discovered commercial amounts of gas in Brandenburg. Connection lost: she spent the rest of the evening giving me stink-eye from across the room. …like I was some kind of rapist or something…
Germans got it bad.
Austria is in a stronger position than many, but it’s not immune. Without focused investments in reliability and flexibility, the system’s stability won’t be guaranteed for long.
The country is often praised for its clean and stable electricity supply, largely thanks to hydropower. But behind the good headlines, structural weaknesses are becoming harder to ignore. For the Green Party, the principle seems to be: where there is political will, a wind turbine will follow, even in regions where the wind rarely blows.
Hydropower depends on rainfall. In dry seasons or cold winters with low water levels, output drops significantly. Without enough storage or backup, shortages become a real risk, especially when wind and solar fall short too.
Austria is part of the European power grid. In peak demand periods, it relies on imports. When neighboring countries run into trouble, Austria feels the impact, through soaring prices or potential supply gaps.
Political goals like “100% renewable electricity by 2030” lack solid backup plans. Without clear strategies for balancing the grid, they remain more aspirational than actionable.
Recently there was a project being formulated of a pump storage hydro plant in Styria (on the Teichalm). Local protests killed it before detail planning. Imagine being offered a free new alpine lake, local power gen, and a bit of good employment and wigging out.
A few years before, a market garden on the Styrian-Burgenland border wanted to build a geothermal plant to meet their own heat needs and amortize faster by selling the balance of the heat + electrical power. This was killed by the need for various slow and expensive environmental consultations and certification, for a totally safe and zero-carbon plant.
Impossible to build anything in Austria between overall anti-development fanatics and NIMBY retards.
The last off-ramp would have been if Kreisky had just opened Zwentendorf and held the protesters under the Danube until the bubbles stopped. Instead he caved, and, in an environment of heavy anti-nuclear FUD, held a referendum to ask the hoi polloi about a technology they had no remote hope of understanding. The same man is still venerated by those who deplore “populism”.
Wish I could be around to see how that training goes for the new staff in the gas plants. Current generations are great for doing that kind of work.
I was GM of a water/wastewater utility on a barrier island. Before 1990 we used to offer summer jobs to local high school students, picking athletes when possible. This is riding around in a truck doing various easy jobs, sometimes having to dig a three-foot hole, taking turns at digging, to get to a valve or pipe. The last two were football players. Both quit after two days citing the reason as being "the work was too hard."
WTF are 'demographically-related staff reductions'...?
old people retiring, I guess.
I think you mean the chronologically deprived, you ageist bigot.
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eugyppius. that's exactly what it is. All the people who designed and built the large scale nuclear power programs in the United States, Canada, Britain, Germany, Japan, Sweden, France are now all long since retired or deceased. The skills to build new nuclear power plants no longer exists in any of them. Outside of Communist China and India, the only remaining nuclear expertise for building new nuclear power plants resides in South Korea (KHNP) and Framatome in France.
It's much the same thing with industrial infrastructure. Much of that is long gone as well.
That's where all the old white guys who know how things work, and how to keep it that way, are made "redundant."
Too much to hope it means "firing DEI hires," I suspect.