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Jane De Haven's avatar

Of course, we have CNN's headline, "How the Lives of a Ukrainian refugee and a Charlotte Man With a Criminal History Converged in a Fatal Stabbing." You see, it was just "convergence!" Nothing anyone can do! It's the way things work! Move along, people!!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Utterly disgusting.

The judges who let these types of savages go free are more dangerous by far than crazy murderers like this guy.

They are literally a clear and present danger to our safety.

Think about it, ONE judge could easily allow 100+ of these thugs to go free per year.

Its not often 1 person kills 100.......

But a single judge could easily be responsible for 100+ deaths during their tenure on the bench

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kertch's avatar

Let's tie the standing of judges to the actions of the criminals they fail to deal with. Judges should not be immune from the consequences of their decisions.

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Jane De Haven's avatar

💯 I am a teacher, and we are routinely blamed for student failures or behavior problems. It’s never a matter of a student misbehaving, not paying attention, refusing to work, no, it's my problem for not speaking loudly enough, speaking too loudly, telling them to do their work, not reminding them to do their work, etc. When they grow up to believe they are completely unaccountable for their actions, it's the fault of teachers, as well. I say let's force much more highly paid judges to take blame for their actions for a change. Join the party!

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Henrybowman's avatar

I'd be happy if the teacher just let the PARENTS know when the work (or the kid) were delinquent. Even getting that much is like pulling teeth out here.

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Joseph Little's avatar

To say one useful thing quickly: There are "students" who should be removed from the classroom for the sake of the other students, the teacher and the society.

What exactly to do with those "bad" students is much harder. And a longer discussion.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

We're heading towards civil war or some protracted conflict.

Charlie Kirk was just shot.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I suspect it will be more of a reckoning than a civil war.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Latest murder is just one in the very long list of the many foundations needed and promoted by the oligarchs to convince the general plebes to joyously adopt CBDCs, digital-IDs, face-recognition, gun-bans, further militarization of local police-forces, restricted movement, forced implementation of AI in all facets of daily-life, you name it.

It happens BY DESIGN !!! no matter the skin-color ...

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kertch's avatar

I just heard that Charlie is dead, and the shooter is still at large.

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Fred Ickenham's avatar

They caught the shooter immediately. A bald middle aged to older white man. His race will be immediately and repeatedly covered by legacy media.

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Warmek's avatar

Wrong guy. They later picked someone else up, who was also not the guy. Shooter still at large.

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Frank Sterle Jr.'s avatar

Corruption, plain and simple. The end-justify-the-means journalism. And they themselves must know it. People need to tell them. Perhaps even pay them a visit.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Unfortunately not the right one. There is video though. They know where he was positioned, I believe they will get him or he will make himself known for the sake of noterietay.

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Joseph Little's avatar

For some readers: Yes, Charlie Kirk is dead.

They did arrest a bald older man. Apparently he was NOT the shooter. They have, I hear, a good description of the shooter, and some evidence. It is promising that he (it seems) will soon be caught.

I think they know little about the motive or whether others may be involved. I will guess that the shooter may have been alone -- but not an educated guess.

To push back for now on some conspiracy theories: from what I know, lots of people with a little target practice, can hit a target 200 yards away with most any rifle. It did not require a high-level marksman. Again, from what I know. (vs what some people might mean by "professional hit man" or similar phrases).

Let's see what we learn later.

12:53pm ET USA

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Margaret Treis's avatar

He was killed it was later reported.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Gives me the heaviest of hearts

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Juraj Vascik's avatar

Oh God! Thanks for the update.

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Joseph Little's avatar

Ryan: Please be careful not to amplify this this way.

Rather say: We must do some things and contain this violence. Be it Iryna or Charlie or others.

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Henrybowman's avatar

They are and always have been since the dawn of the constitution. This is going to be a mighty big ask to accomplish.

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

That would just incentivize them to imprison everyone.

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kertch's avatar

What is the alternative? Strict guidelines for sentencing? Do you really want to take away all of the judge's discretionn and thus thier accountability? If there is not some way to hold judges accountable for the consequences of their judgements then judges will become little dictators who's personal opinions now substitute for justice.

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RichT's avatar

I think we’re already at the point where we have a lot of black robed judges who rule based on personal opinion.

Ketanji Brown Jackson for instance

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

The fix is to just end the independence of the judiciary. Have politicians appoint and fire the judges.

The usual argument against that it that it would lead to politicization of the judiciary, which could then be weaponized to persecute legitimate political opposition. My answer: that happens anyway. Someone has to appoint and fire judges, and the idea that this person or committee would be rigorously politically neutral if given absolute independence is a dumb idea that clearly isn't true. Or at least, isn't true enough of the time for it to be a justification by itself.

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kertch's avatar

Still, the same thing would happen as is happening today. The liberal mayor of a city like Charlotte or Chicago would appoint judges much like the liberal ones there already. People like Soros would give campaign money to mayors and governors in exchange for picking judges. There needs to be some personal responsibility for judges, and I think that will only come if we can revert back to a culture of personal responsibility.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They can be disbarred for one thing. Stricter rules on adherence to law.

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Steven Work's avatar

May I propose an alternative to expensive torturous degrading living time killing psychotic creating man-raping brutal private prisons?

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"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2213:, 20th May 2025, Proposals to Heal Fatherless Nation's Jailed Single-Mother's soul-sickened Adult-male Children"

https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2213

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Feed-back welcome.

God Bless., Steve

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Henrybowman's avatar

When I saw "Multiverse Journal," I thought you had a REALLY NOVEL alternative to prisons... but it was not to be.

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Steven Work's avatar

Well, I am sorry but decided that making them build a moon-base moon-industry would likely be too much ahead of our time.

Can you explain why this proposal is not so much better than anything else, and that you might actually want to serve there?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Exactly. As it should be

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VeryVer's avatar

vermont is having the same problem. judges let everyone go until there's an actual murder.

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

It's everywhere this plague. In Canada too. Worse, we have top cops like Jim MacSheen in Ontario telling people to comply with criminal demands. It's mental as it is irresponsible as it is immoral. He said this AFTER two high profile home invasions where one father was arrested by police for beating the crap out of the invader IN HIS HOME and the other resulting in the DEATH of a man.

And this cop tells the people to cower in fear. We need a tipping point.

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Mitch's avatar

if you can't defend yourself in your home by law, you are a slave.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Compare idiot MacSheen to our very based Sheriff Grady Judd in Florida, and two of his colleagues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zz0NieKMR4

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

Saw that.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I saw that.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

This murder should be the driving force behind all sorts of reforms. Let’s start with the broken families that if not fixed will perpetuate this into how long, eternity?

Before LBJ, the black family units were more numerous than whites’.

The Kennedys deinstitutionalized mental illness causing chaos everywhere. The education system in my estimation did not give up on minority students, they don’t educate them ON PURPOSE because they are racist to their core

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Henrybowman's avatar

Not sure it was that far back. Watch the gross-out documentary Titticut Follies, which was shot after the Kennedys,

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SSGJOHNZO's avatar

And exactly HOW LONG does it take for them to actually bring a suspect to trial, unless the victim is a member of a “protected class of individuals”?

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_ikaruga_'s avatar

Judges are influenced by two forces: the will of the people and the will of... powers above the judiciary (o if those exist). The resulting behaviour is the vector made up of those two forces.

If people don't organize to let their voice be heard seriously, well... the powers above the judiciary inform judicial policy, without disturbance.

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William's avatar

Shoot, I thought Hen and Fairy and their rainbow scoops of unicorn poop ice cream assuaged the lustful impulses of the deranged left. Must be lactose intolerance, not to mention intellectual fraud.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Climate Change. 😂

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Neris's avatar

Incompetence + suicidal empathy + stupidity, etc.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

= civilization collapse

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Neris's avatar

I would prefer that not to happen but there are a substantial number of accelerationists out there

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

We're on the same page

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Neris's avatar

Doing my best not to self medicate

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Henrybowman's avatar

There's a difference between an accelerationist and a person who reluctantly accepts the inevitability of TINVOWOOT.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

{...Incompetence + suicidal empathy + stupidity...}

It's by design:

- WHAT "system" enables incompetent creatures to be encumbed ???,

- WHO injects the plebes with disastrous suicidal empathy ??? and

- WHO generates rampant stupidity in th general populace (as opposed to the

infamous "swarm intelligence") ??? ...

Simple:

Totally corrupted "democracy, so-called liberal progressivism, fraudulent electronic election procedures, long-term, shameless (and totally unaccountable) public lying/deceiving, brainwashing via TV, film, governmental-led "educational" institutions !!!

Just dig deeper and get to the roots of all this evil ...

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National Rust's avatar

Not incompetence then, clear decisions.

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Neris's avatar

Yeah, I grapple with this. I agree with the clear decision making part. My question is, where does it stop or is it turtles all the way down? I'm resigned to the turtles all the way down

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National Rust's avatar

Good question. My basic perspective is if it wasn't deliberate then it wouldn't be happening. Nothing diverts from more of the same, all of it bad, which tells you very clearly that those who truly rule over us want it to continue and see the patently bad outcomes of their decisions as good.

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National Rust's avatar

They are probably responding to intense social pressure to conform. You have to be impressionable to begin with which let's be fair is a lot of people.

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Neris's avatar

Good point, thank you for this framing. To clarify, I wasn’t wondering about the rulers. That is obvious to me. I wonder, for example, about nearly all of the people whom I work with who are ideologically captured. It isn’t helpful to think that everyone whom I work with is a bad actor, so I think about this question often.

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Art's avatar

The judge was a “magistrate” who was not even an attorney. She did however have other “qualifications” including a simultaneously held position at this organization:

https://www.secondchancesservicesnc.com

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Another blood sucking NGO.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

The clear and present danger is intentional, meant for the destruction of our country and culture.

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

I wonder if these progressive thinkers consider that when the civil institutions collapse the thinkers become the prey.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Their voters are constitutionally incapable of connecting the squalor they have to live in with the people they are voting for. They are like locusts -- when their support system collapses, they migrate and eat yours.

https://comicallyincorrect.com/a-f-branco-cartoon-invasive-species/

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. And yes.

Cloward-Piven theory in full gear.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

And the best solution? Exactly what Trump is doing....pull the plug on the CP goal .... welfare.

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MamaBear's avatar

The judge wasn’t even a lawyer and a fat black woman. What do you want to bet she is a BLM, structural racism supporter?

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Another contributing factor: throughout my time in grad school (which started in 2009), the discussion of "white people" being the perpetrators of colonialism and being the root of all social ills had crept into many of my social science and humanities classes. Not all, but many. That has only ballooned since 2020. Liberal/leftist academics have encouraged and enabled this to happen. I remember two graduate students wishing that they had bombs to set off in the universities in order to eradicate the colonizers. This line of thinking is everywhere on the left; I have heard this over and over. It is shocking what some people will say to you if they assume that phenotype is a marker for ideology.

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Danielle's avatar

The biggest problem in most Western countries is SOCIAL WELFARE.

We have the same problem in Australia. They receive billions each year in social security, they get specialized training, medical services etc and still they whine about over representation in prisons. Yet they all get 8 chances first before they’re finally given custodial sentences.

And all because of manufactured white guilt.

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Mitch's avatar

Leftists never look at the results of their bad policies, they just double and triple down on funding them.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

The gang problem in Melbourne and the most recent machete murders had the African community thinking that their children are safer in boarding school in Uganda. Makes you wonder why they come to Australia in the first place. The premier doesn’t care.

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Neris's avatar

Yes and the guilt is wittingly (or unwittingly) manufactured in academia. I've seen it firsthand.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

That seems to be coming to an end. Attitudes are hardening. The fate of Iryna Zarutska doesn't help. People are learning what culture mixing really means.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

Fatigue, it's called. People are just SICK of self-identified "victims" in a country where there are a million Black millionaires. If you're Black and a loser in this country, you did it, no one else.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I think the wisdom of mixed societies is being tested and found wanting. That is what is coming.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

You know what, the issues are more complicated than that. America has been a mixing pot since it's inception, and by and large it's worked by assimilation over time. If you look at Blacks in America, there's a huge middle class that except for their color, one wouldn't know their difference from the white middle class. Ghetto is different, way different, and deplored by most Blacks who don't belong to it. If mixing didn't happen in the past there would be no one here but indigenous. As it is, people say the indigenous don't fit in. But recently, many immigrants never fit in, nor want to. Islamists and many of the recent illegals who broke all our laws to get here, were funded and transported by those who hate our country and radicalized the illegals..... who then hate us while living off us. They and native ghetto Blacks have been weaponized to destroy the country, led by progressive politicians who have their own media-created dupes called liberals. Mostly white people. So, it's the underpinnings of things that need to be looked at. The weaponizers were/are not Black or Islamist. They're international communistic WHITE instigators who want global fascism. Their lackeys are just useful idiots. Their race doesn't matter as long as contention can be built easily using them, and they're willing to destroy the country by hostility, violence and stealing, financial dependence claiming victimhood, refusing to assimilate and in general causing mayhem. The destructive behavior of ghetto and Islamist folk is being exacerbated and rewarded by liberal politicians, police and judges, who as far as I'm concerned, are traitors. It's not mixed societies per se which we've always had, even if things were sometimes oppositional. Now, it's deliberate weaponization of race and it's becoming more violent by the day. It goes to a certain point and the natives get violent against it, as just happened in England and other places. It's all intentional and right on track with cabal NWO agendas. When it gets chaotic enough, they will step in and offer their services and...knowing humanity... we will accept it. Don't get distracted via divide and conquer. Keep your eye on the ball.

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William Laing's avatar

Aboriginal people have little in common with black people in the USA, and their rates of violent crime are absolutely nothing like those of the US black population.

In some areas indigenous problems in both countries do bear some comparison, but not much.

For heavens' sake, don't start the idea that Aborigines are particularly violent. They aren't.

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Danielle's avatar

Not my intention at all, although I suspect that residents in Alice Springs might disagree. I have good friends that are aboriginal, but they work and are just normal members of society.

My intention was to point out that they are overly represented in prisons and that I don’t believe that continually handing them cash does them any favors.

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_ikaruga_'s avatar

Bloggers such as Spandrell and the Curtis Yarvin of (quite some) years ago have described the clerisy-clergy (which in our day are those social science silver tongues and pens) aptly, and sketched out what may sadly possibly be the only way a society has available to deal with them and bring them into harmlessness.

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Squire's avatar

Spandrell's Bioleninism essays, read on a microscopic old mobile screen, followed by Mencius on the same, are what greatly accelerated my journey from left to right.

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National Rust's avatar

Been going on since at least 2006.

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MST's avatar

The irony, of course, is that one of the defining institutions of the “colonizers” is the University system. To “decolonize” the University is to eliminate it.

Oh, wait. It looks like that is “mission accomplished.” Never mind.

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working rich's avatar

It is the gospel.

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Jeff McRockets's avatar

When your BLM fist stabs your Ukrainian flag to death because of a DEI black lesbian retard judge…

Have fun with the cognitive dissonance, fuktards… if you have enough intellect and self awareness to suffer from it

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Franz Kafka's avatar

From that description, the poor girl (Memory Eternal!) may have stabbed herself. Someone should fumigate the NYT.

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TheUnderToad's avatar

The passive voice takes over when there's "really no one to blame."

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Stony Stevenson's avatar

That was one of several articles, you make it sound as if that was the CNN article on the murder.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Are we arguing about which mushroom in the casserole was the poison one?

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RichT's avatar

Are you kidding? If he’d been in prison where he belonged this murder doesn’t happen but instead a DEI judge let him out.

Look at the rates of crime by race. Remove black crime and the US would have a much lower crime rate.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

If Democrats would quit killing each other, murders would drop 90%

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Mitch's avatar

the problem is that they sometimes kill the rest of us

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Robert M.'s avatar

I see your point, but how did the blacks get there? Check your history, but when Columbus arrived in America, there were no blacks. Until later centuries all blacks that arrived in America came involuntarily.

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RichT's avatar

They’re here because other blacks sold them?

Doesn’t really matter since I’m tired of hearing about past racism excusing current disfunction. It’s become an excuse that’s past its expiration date since black families were stronger a century ago

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Kaycee's avatar

Exactly. Presentism doesn't work here. Yes, black people were brought here by other black people selling them into slavery in Africa. And yes, there were buyers. But we are no longer living in that time. Black people perpetrate more crime against their own race, but then there is this guy who said he killed that white bitch. Racism through and through. So no, no more presentism on why blacks commit crimes against anyone. He should pay the ultimate penalty!

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

The simple solution is always mirroring. Treat them as they treat you, after a few polite warnings. That means East Asians get politeness and consideration. Other groups, not so much.

Reciprocity works.

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SnowInTheWind's avatar

To the Southern plantation states, yes. To much of the rest of the country, including many states that never had slavery, they came voluntarily in search of opportunity like everybody else.

They account for the bulk of violent crime there as well.

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CelticJedi's avatar

Every State in the Union had slavery. New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Missouri, and West Virginia did not end slavery until the 13th Amendment was passed. As far as slavery being a galvanizing factor for secession, it was how to end it versus its existence or non existence. Many of the Irish and Germans did not come voluntarily either, yet we do not see the violent crime from their decedents. This is a deliberately created problem by those that cannot be named to bring about their utopia.

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SnowInTheWind's avatar

What about northwestern states, like Indiana, Illinois, and west? I seem to recall that, for a period prior to the Civil War, there was an unspoken rule that states would be added in pairs, one slave and one free. Those free states are the ones I was thinking of, as well as those added after the war.

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FkDahl's avatar

Now do murder rate by ethnicity in the UK, or Sweden

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Charlotte's avatar

My ancestors didn’t own slaves , but fought to free them and some of them died. So where’s my money? I want reparations.

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Rosemary B's avatar

just "fyi"

long long time ago, back in ancient times (early 16-1700's) blacks were sold and trafficked to all other parts of the planet. Most certainly the introduction of slave purchase was not anything different than what the people of Europe were doing.

I do not know how or why this was drilled into the heads of present day blacks here in the US. Honestly, they are more fortunate at present, than most blacks around the world. Most blacks here in the US do not know how to speak properly and have no respect for themselves or others. Yep, white ppl too of course, but most of us are not talking jib all the time.

You get one life, no one owes you anything.

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Danielle's avatar

When Columbus arrived, how many whites were in America?

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Henrybowman's avatar

And after the Civil War, they were offered the opportunity to return to their ancestral continent at no charge, and run a new country of their own. Some did so, and the ones who remained here didn't. They made their choice then.

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Riri's avatar

Maybe not release him this time in the name of social justice.

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HappyLittleClouds's avatar

Maybe execute him this time in the name of real justice.

Garroting would be a particularly appropriate method of execution, given what this felon did to the victim.

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Brook Hines's avatar

what needs to be done is a federal program administered thru HHS + govt contracting of forensic psych care so that ppl like this aren’t out on the street. right now that $$ is given in block grants to states who use it to wipe their noses with.

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SCA's avatar

There is not a living member of the animal kingdom on Earth whose survival does not depend on situational awareness.

The public education system in the West has been ruthlessly focused for generations on shaming and destroying children's natural instincts to recoil and flee from what is sensed as dangerous.

If I had entered that light rail car and seen that every occupied seat was taken by non-professionally dressed black people I'd've moved to another car. This is based on the situational awareness that three muggings have given me.

When I was still a Noo Yawkuh and walking on non-crowded streets if I heard footsteps behind me I slowed down and stopped and let the person pass me.

Even as that poor girl was dying she showed a gentleness that's almost incomprehensible and entirely unbearable to watch. She didn't scream or even look around for help. She buried her head in her hands in quiet shock and despair as her life ebbed out of her.

I sure hope there is cosmic justice. We won't get it here. The guy who killed her is (perhaps intermittently) schizophrenic and I'm laying bets now he'll be found unfit for trial.

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Tom Burns's avatar

Thank you for bringing up situational awareness! No victim blaming here, but it is imperative when in public to keep your ears open as well as your eyes, and so few people do, especially on public transit. During my years of living in NYC and riding its buses and subways, I never stuffed my ears, and never when on the street either. I witnessed everything from some fat moron with earphones on half sit on a slightly built woman on the subway, who rightly went OFF on him, to a friend who wore earbuds habitually get mugged and taken to his ATM to clean out the maximum cash withdrawal. It is a pity!

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SCA's avatar

My God I am not blaming her. (I recognize you recognize that.) In the moments of her dying I could see how much she surely enriched the world by her brief time in it. Imagine how she glowed in the normal moments of life. That poor girl was like a kitten and a rabid monster savaged her.

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Decaf's avatar

Her sweetness even then is what made the video clip so painful for me. And seeing the people nearby slink away after the attack was over made me disgusted and angry. The attack itself, I just couldn't grasp it was happening. Horrific.

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SCA's avatar

She walked into a car filled with the OJ jury.

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Decaf's avatar

There was another comment here that made me think of OJ.

That the U.S. would come to this pass where murderers are coddled and excused and victims left to die and not see justice even after their death, is something I still can’t grasp. As bad as the OJ trial was, it was nothing compared to where we are now.

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SCA's avatar

We're in the same place. A significant number of black women, especially, ain't in the least bothered by a black guy killing any pretty blonde woman and they'll never convict him for it.

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Charlotte's avatar

Ain’t that the truth. Let’s reverse races for a moment, all whites in the car and one white man hacked a black man to death. What would be the response? All the white witnesses slinked away. We would never ever hear the end of it. Have we heard one prominent black person curse this crime in the open press?

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SCA's avatar

Keep in mind I am speaking about the OJ jury type.

An Army football player and his father pulled a guy from a burning car last week. There are plenty of black guys who step up and do the needful in emergency situations.

Their mothers are unlikely to have been the type to let OJ walk.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

Very true, but I don’t blame her too much. She had no experience with blacks in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and I have heard that she was very receptive to neoliberal ideas about equality and that blacks are always getting picked on for no reason whatsoever. And had a BLM poster in her apartment

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Henrybowman's avatar

https://x.com/WomenPostingLs/status/1571913393434419202

She was very young, and can be forgiven for this common idealistic naïvete, which is usually gradually tempered by life experience.* Unfortunately, her full ration of life experience was condensed into 10 seconds, too concentrated to survive.

*As per François Guizot: "Not to be a republican [socialist] at 20 is proof of want of heart; to still be one at 30 is proof of want of head."

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Lily_1905's avatar

In fact, he was unleashed back into the public because he was found unfit for trial for a prior crime. Unbelievable that at the time, knowing he was mentally-ill and violent, that the justice system decided the best course of action was to allow him freedom. Forget systemic racism, this was systemic failure of an epic proportion.

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SCA's avatar

This happens all over and has been happening since the ACLU won its Supreme Court victory in 1975.

You'd think that was enough time for sane voters to get their shit together but this is why neither of the two US political parties gives a--pardon this ungentlewomanly expression--hot flying fuck about meaningful legislation and enforcement.

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

Which 1975 case pls?

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SCA's avatar

Use keywords and do your own research.

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

O’Connor v. Donaldson US 563

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SCA's avatar

I knew you could manage it.

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SCA

How about if when you raise an obscure decades old legal judgement, you provide an inkling of what the H*ll you are talking about instead of forcing everyone to go and look it up? Or at least refrain from revealing your savoring of your victory at having inconvenienced everyone and forced them to waste their time trying to figure out if your comment had any relevance.

And for it's worth, the decision you reference did *not* leave authorities powerless to deal raving homicidal maniacs. It simply provided many authorities with an excuse to do what they already wanted to do.

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HappyLittleClouds's avatar

Make insane asylums great again!

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I disagree with your refutation of the involvement of racial politics, but I found your post interesting and useful, partly because it led to some researching in my part.

Because of your post & the discussion in response to your post, I studied O'Connor V Donaldson. That SCOTUS ruling did not require releasing into the general population people who are violent or incompetent, but the legal and mental health systems have been doing that anyway.

Stephanie Aguilar's essay on O'Connor v Donaldson is the most clearly written I found so far, but it does not address the human error or moral degradation that leads to hostile or incompetent people being wrongly released from captivity.

https://www.3da.org/post/o-connor-v-donaldson-1975

I have no solution. Our systems of health care and justice are currently unable to diagnose chronic feral or demonic behavior. I suspect that most chronically feral people are not violent; merely difficult to get along with. However, the essays on this issue show that when destructive persons were being confined more consistently, harmless people were confined unnecessarily. None of the essays I found include any attempt to study the relative impacts of the two types of error -- (A) confining the harmless and (B) releasing the vicious and violent.

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VeryVer's avatar

insane asylums have a purpose. but the older i get the less i care why there's crime. i just want less of it.

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SCA's avatar

It was the usual idiotic ACLU solution.

It is possible to take buildings rather hideous on the outside and renovate them inside into attractive safe secure incarceration centers for the dangerously insane to live decently in for the rest of their lives.

Of course one extremely and unsolvable problem--re housing the insane as well as every sort of person incapable of independent life--is the scarcity of people fit to staff such places. We can't even keep tiny children safe in daycares--even church-run daycares. It's not even about appropriate wages for the work. It's the shortage of trustworthy people. The typical workforce shouldn't be put in charge of caring for a potted plant.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

His mother’s assertion of his schizophrenia is a guarantee that he won’t face justice.

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SCA's avatar

His mother threw him out of her house because he was too dangerous to allow around family. They tried very hard to get the authorities to render him non-dangerous to anyone else.

There's the evidence of the 911 calls he made demanding help because "the government had implanted chips in him." There's no dearth in the least of all the evidence needed to prove he was a dangerously sick creature roaming for easy prey.

I think in regard to recognition of his illness his family may be considered blameless (though I sure do want to know about how diligently his mother pursued the best pre-conception health for herself and what his early childhood was like).

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

I am not blaming his mother, but to my knowledge her’s is the only specific reference to schizophrenia that I have seen.

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SCA's avatar

I think some of the 911 calls he made to police were from the hospital and they told him, when they responded, that it was a medical issue they were not qualified to assist with. There is clear documentation that he was experiencing typical symptoms even if he was never officially diagnosed or treated.

Trust me, I'm not attempting to mitigate anything here. Survival of any species depends on culling those infected with any dangerous pathogen. We don't need to even particularly hate the rabid wolf as we permanently remove it from the environment. We should, though, hate anyone attempting to prevent us from doing what's necessary.

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Jon M's avatar

This is exactly how I view it. Punishment and retribution aren't the right framework.

Humans are an animal species with adaptive and maladaptive behaviors. Ensuring fitness of the group is rational, and if you are a sentimental type, compassionate as well.

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SCA's avatar

Oh, I'm big on retribution but I want it aimed at the correct target.

But there must be an understanding that some creatures are unfixable. It's like the sentimental morons who bring home rescue pitbulls to raise around their children and then when tragedy comes as can be predicted, sob that the dog was always so good with the baby.

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Charlotte's avatar

If he’s schizophrenic, what is wrong with his half-brother, who’s doing life in prison for shooting an innocent white man dead? I’m thinking it 100% genetics and poor environment. What a crap show.

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Henrybowman's avatar

To be fair, schizophrenia can easily be genetics, too.

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Charlotte's avatar

That’s absolutely true. But you would hope that if more than one family member has schizophrenia, they would encourage them to get on meds and stay on them. I think the family had a culture of violence.

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National Rust's avatar

Is that right about his brother?

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James Farrell's avatar

In the minutes before he killed Ms.Zarutska he looked more bored than schizophrenic. I've seen episodes of schizophrenia up close. He was in no way in the throes of one. He hated that lovely young woman the moment she sat down in front of him. He killed her because she was white.

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SCA's avatar

Are you under the peculiar impression that I'm trying to defend the guy?

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James Farrell's avatar

Absolutely not. He's beyond being defended.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Quite. Something that needs to be discussed openly. The resentment. Alas it open a can of worms few have the stomach for.

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Natalia L.'s avatar

Speaking of situational awareness, there is nothing of sorts in the former USSR. Public transport is one is one of the safest settings out there.

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James Farrell's avatar

That's a function of living in a racially homogenous nation.

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Joseph Little's avatar

I think that can helps. Homogeniety.

The left says living standards are important. And that all the "people" should be equally poor. I think that is a very minor factor, IF you have law and order.

But I think the key is to have strong and well-executed law and order.

I do not know how fair (or unfair) the USSR was or Russia is about these felony crimes. Probably firm and fair mostly, but also unfair some.

The lefty ideas are to break down or importantly weaken law and order. Just wrong and stupid.

Although, once you have the norm of L&O, then you CAN tweak to be slighly more fair. (eg, the punishment more exactly fits the crime, as we say.)

BUT: If people see they can get away with stuff, then enough of them will take it further. And you have the kind of total mess we have many places in America.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Transit of that caliber is a function of having a civilizational state like Russia, China, Iran and many countries do. USA had one once, but lost it entirely due to the deadly influence of the neo Bolsheviks.

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SCA's avatar

For fuck's sake.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Russia, Japan, UAE, there are plenty of places where you can say exactly the same thing.

One of the parameters they typically have in common is that they are almost entirely culturally homogeneous. No "diversity." No "vibrance." Just a large, almost tribal group, brought up with the same values in the same traditions.

Like the US used to be back when "melting pot" wasn't a cancellable term.

Like the Scandinavian countries used to be before they also inexplicably decided that uncontrolled immigration of military-age hostile primitives was the greatest idea ever.

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Gary S.'s avatar

The Russian Federation is not an ethnostate.

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Natalia L.'s avatar

Фак или не фак сейк, так устроена та часть света.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

On prosto debil kakoj to! (Translation: He is some kind of a fuckwit, that's all.)

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thanks for stepping in trying to clarify. The comments section is confusing at times, not to mention the non-native language conversation hurdles.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Why the outburst? It seems awfully neurotic.

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VeryVer's avatar

she was ukrainian and had no idea. poor child.

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SCA's avatar

I disagree. She was taught it was rude and disrespectful to use her natural instincts.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Ukrainians are now among the wokest people on Earth. The CIA has been educating them since the USSR walked away from its responsibilities so that Raissa Gorbachev could shop in Paris without being abused by customs agents upon her return to Moscow. In a way the Gorbachevs had a hand on that knife.

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Pleading insanity still gets you life

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TheUnderToad's avatar

Remember when white people in America were castigated for a research study showing that many would opt to cross the street if they found themselves walking on a sidewalk at night, on the same side of the street of an approaching black man?

https://blackyouthproject.com/when-white-people-cross-the-street-and-black-collective-consciousness/

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Kid, I ain't never found value in putting my own neck on the block just to show my politesse.

Now, I know that stereotypes are often wrong. One of my very bestest friends in all the world when I was 22 was a black low-level drug dealer (he was a mechanic in his day job) and I still think of him with deepest affection and gratitude for keeping me out of trouble during my Year of Living Dangerously.

But if I don't know you and your propensities sure as all heck I'm crossing that street away from you even if I need to jaywalk to do it.

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Gary S.'s avatar

After reading your comment, I watched a vid clip of seconds after the stabbing. Several blacks -- apparently American blacks -- simply got up & left. They weren't chasing the suspect; they were fleeing the scene w/o rendering aid.

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The end of the full clip shows a man who took off his own shirt to try and stanch the bleeding while another woman knelt to try and assist him. Also in the clip is yet another black woman sitting and filming it on her phone.

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"Even as that poor girl was dying she showed a gentleness that's almost incomprehensible and entirely unbearable to watch. She didn't scream or even look around for help. She buried her head in her hands in quiet shock and despair as her life ebbed out of her."

That is just normal woman nature; nothing to blame about it, but I see how it can feel beyond comprehension to a man.

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Gary S.'s avatar

She showed no sign of sobbing; to me that suggests (does not prove) that her body language showed she knew she was dying.

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SCA's avatar

You dolt. I had a gun shoved in my side once and I pushed it away before screaming for help and I had then and still do have all my ladyparts as naturally fitted.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Some women have a high degree of disagreeableness. I guess that means you.

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Jim Brown's avatar

I saw some (apparently) reliable statistics that say black males, who comprise roughly 6 percent of the US population, commit 47% of the murders. Most of these are murders of other black males.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. That's the "conversation" the racist say they want, but it is verboten to bring up the facts without getting barked at for being raaaaaacist.

Here's the real problem:

Blacks males between the ages of 15 and 40.

So its really only 2% that commit two thirds of all crimes in the US, including 74% of the murders

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VeryVer's avatar

i wish we were allowed to talk about why they commit so many crimes. a real reason i mean. (fetal alcohol syndrome? lead poisoning? retardation) maybe we could fix it then. at the least people need to be locked up before they kill people, not after.

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MeriBear's avatar

No dads in intact families. No strong, good male role models is one reason. They are other reasons too.

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Jon M's avatar

You can pretty much apply those stats to every region in the world, under different historical contexts and different cultures, and will still find the pattern. It's very unlikely FAS or lead or family structure explains the pattern.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Take this into account as well:

"The problem of violent crime in America is largely the problem of the repeat, violent offender. A small segment of our population is responsible for a large share of the violent crime. Study after study has identified a small group of hardened, chronic offenders who commit a staggering number of crimes -- well over one hundred a year for many of these violent predators.... one study by the BATF of a group of career criminals found that each had committed an average of 160 crimes per year. A 1982 Rand Corp study found that 24% of inmates surveyed admitted to having committed more than 135 crimes a year apiece, and about 10% claimed responsibility for over 600 crimes per year."

("Combating Violent Crime," US DOJ, 7/28/92)

It's not only a small number of people responsible for a large percentage of crimes, it's also a ridiculously huge number of crimes being committed per person.

So the answer to "why do they commit so many crimes" is clearly: because they can. After his first 50, it must dawn on even the dimmest thug that nobody is bothering to stop him.

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HappyLittleClouds's avatar

Genetics. It's genetics. The genetics of a race affects its culture, because culture is a product of biology.

It's been the taboo in Western societies for several decades now. It underlies the false morality of "racism", which didn't exist as a moral concept prior to the late 19th or early 20th century. Ask yourself why that moral concept didn't previously exist.

The only way to fix it for blacks would be generations of absolutely ruthless eugenic selection for greater intelligence, low-time preference/delayed gratification, and pro-social/anti-sociopathic attitudes. Basically simulating what thousands of years of winters and many centuries of executing violent criminals did for European and North-East Asian populations. This would require forcibly sterilizing at least three quarters of the dumbest, most impulsive, and most sociopathic members of the black population. Repeat this over at least several generations, and the remaining blacks would begin to resemble Europeans and North East Asians in several important key areas.

That is probably a political non-starter.

More moderate alternatives would be the re-imposition of segregation or apartheid, carving out territory just for blacks (Haiti on the Mississippi), or mass repatriation back to Africa.

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Classical eugenics is inarguably a non-starter.

I was perusing a table of global IQs within the past seven days, and was shocked to find that the country with the lowest IQ on the globe (at least according to this table) was Liberia. For those unaware of the history, Liberia was bought outright by an NGO shortly after the Civil War as a place where ex-slaves could be repatriated and given their own country, exactly as you suggest. Curiously, Liberia still practices slavery, despite it having been specifically written into their constitution (by the same white do-gooder NGO) that slavery would never be practiced there. It tends to reinforce the rating, I suppose.

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php?full

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CS's avatar

Check out the tireless and nonpareil work of Heather Mac Donald on this front.

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Jim Brown's avatar

I remember some of her work from many years ago. That’s a good idea. I will check her out.

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She basically just looks at and analyzes the FBI crime data and tells the truth.

Something politicians should be doing as well (although they are far too cowardly to do so): Pointing out the facts of violent crime in America.

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Exactly! 65% of America’s violent criminals are black. 13% of Americans are black. So eliminate 1/2 of the population because women don’t commit many violent crimes. Then 1/2 it again because black men over 40 are probably not murdering many (they’re “retired” from it or they’re in prison). So that leaves about 3% of America’s population - black men under 40 - committing 65% of violent crimes.

Perhaps a better way to keep me from becoming “racist!” is for blacks to change their behavior rather than continue to call me names for observing them for who they so obviously are.

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Riri's avatar

Cope

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Cope with murder?!

Do you realize most of that is black on black crime?

So what's your point?

Maybe im misinterpreting your comment?

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You did misinterpret my comment. I was replying to a troll who was engaging in whataboutism

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Oh gosh. I'm so sorry, Riri.

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Riri's avatar

All good!

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Jim Brown's avatar

Facts are not racist. And all facts exist within a context. As you well know, the statistic I cited deals with murders within the USA, so your comparison with "the world" - even if it were true, which I doubt - is not legitimate.

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RichT's avatar

This post seems to have really brought out your hate of whites

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Riri's avatar

Citation needed

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Thucydides's avatar

This is the best analysis I have seen of the delusional state of the Progressive establishment on race matters - a state brought about by their desperate attempts to distort reality to prevent empirical disconfirmation of their ideological commitments. One thing I have not seen mentioned yet; years of Democratic Party stirring up of black racial paranoia to gin up their votes, without which they would be electorally unable to compete, surely is a large factor anti-white racism among people like the killer.

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In any group of progressives, social currency points are silently awarded to the person who is the most pure, ie the most loyal adopter of the narrative. They egg one on another on to displays of "not being a terrified little peasant," and of generally being holier, more benevolent, crying more at Floyd's overdose. Attempts to distort reality are highly rewarded and speaking the truth social death. They are locked in firmer than anyone clapping for Stalin was, because this is what they whole-heartedly want.

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FkDahl's avatar

100% and also a belief system much easier to implement when living in a safe upper middle class area

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Delta's avatar

Excellent points, Tara.

The Left are truly afraid of their own far more than they are of us.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Bees. The hive mind is paramount with progressives. Never be the first one to stop clapping for a Stalin speech.

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Michael Magoon's avatar

Wow, if it is really true that the civilian casualty rate in the Ukraine war is lower than the homicide rate in Charlotte (which is in turn much lower than many other American cities), this is a stunning statistic!

That is a sad testament.

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If you exclude Mariupol (where the number of civilian deaths are uncertain), this is true. The UN has compiled all verified civilian deaths from hostilities in Ukraine since the start of the war, we're right around 14k now. Accounting for Ukraine's shrunk population and 3.5 years of war, that works out to around 11/100,000. Kyiv oblast, with the air raids, is more in the range of 20/100,000 – worse than Charlotte, about like Milwaukee.

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Old Jarhead's avatar

The last US violent crime numbers I saw (not just homicide) were 368 per 100,000.

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Old Jarhead's avatar

I use violent crime numbers as a bellwether because any of them could lead to a homicide or great bodily harm.

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Joseph Little's avatar

Interesting. Grok says murder rate for all US is 5 per 100,000 in 2024. So, murder is a small portion of that violent crime rate.

Hmm. Feels like other things (robbery?) can be seen as the gateway drug??

Robbery is considered a violent crime (is that defined as "armed" robbery??)

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Old Jarhead's avatar

Different states, counties, and cities have different definitions. There is also statistical deflation, done by reporting home invasions as burglaries, attempted murder as an assault, carjacking as an auto burglary etc. There are also unreported crimes due to catch and release judges and “come down to the station to fill out a report” areas. Some people just don’t bother.

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Codebra's avatar

These are all black homicides (Ukraine doesn’t have to deal with this). If you subtract black homicide from US murder rate, it’s lower than Canada’s.

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FkDahl's avatar

In fairness to Canada they should also sort their homicide rate by ethnicity. In several European countries it’s explicitly forbidden for police to record this data

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kertch's avatar

Maybe because our inner cities ARE war zones. It's just a different type of war. One in which the forces of Progessivism are fighting the values of Western Civilization.

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National Rust's avatar

You're right. The actual values of Western Civilisation.

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Frank Lee's avatar

I just heard a CBS news radio report on it over two weeks after it happened where they never used the word "murdered" only "stabbed" and if you had not already known about the crime, you would not even know that the victim was dead.

We have an evil element that has permeated the left, the liberals, the Democrats and our institutions including our media. Their evil enables the evil of these racist murders. Until we cut of the head of this multi-headed snake, it will continue to strike more innocent people.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Likewise, I have witnessed articles about stabbings, on the websites of print outlets such as the NYT, that referred to the perpetrator as "the gunman."

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LeftyMudersbach's avatar

Excellent observations. The liberals and their media accomplices are so dishonest and disdainful of the truth because it does not fit their narrative.

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Riri's avatar

Now focus on the plethora of similar crimes committed by black males. Why won’t you? You only have a problem with crime if they’re committed by someone who isn’t black

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Lisa Reisman's avatar

A comment about "declining crime rates": when you have cashless bail (IL, NJ, DC, NM) you "get" less crime because a) you stop calling 911 b/c police won't respond or b) police stop arresting b/c so many crimes no longer require cash bail that you have incentivized catch and release or no catch at all. Crime is a joke in major cities like Chicago. The libtards can play w/ their numbers all they want but they are wrong.

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kertch's avatar

Then there are the Woke District Attorneys who allow felonies to be pleaded down to lesser felonies or misdemeanors. This also skews the numbers.

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Henrybowman's avatar

In the stories about Trump taking over the policing of DC, it was revealed that the city government had been downgrading many cases of violent carjacking of occupied vehicles to "first degree theft," a straight property crime.

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The grossest part about the media and the left is the fact that a racial motive was *entirely fabricated* in both the George Floyd and Michael Brown killings(*).

Yet here we have a case where the suspect says out loud that he killed that *white* girl, explicitly stating a racial intent, and the media is stating that this is somehow a manufactured racial incident.

It's so f*cking disgusting.

I don't dislike black people. I'm around them all the time because of the demographics of where I live. Most of them are normal, decent people... But for the media and the left to pretend that they have not been playing this sick game since Obama's second term, instead choosing to project their behavior on people who, for some odd reason (presumably white supremacy), don't want to get stabbed in the throat is beyond repulsive.

* Brown's friend who created the "hands up don't shoot" lie was killed this week in an altercation unrelated to the police, BTW. Suppose it was the Klan?

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Henrybowman's avatar

Yuh, it was a black dude from... the Klan.

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RichT's avatar

You can’t say “black dude” and “klan” without me immediately thinking of Blazing Saddles

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Dave Chapelle

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Magnum's avatar

Well written. There is a massive toll on Americans from this. Not just the murder rates, but how much of our prime urban real estate is lost to the lack of enforcement against these crimes. How much Americans pay to live to live in the remaining schools districts that exclude this violent subset of the population to try and keep their kids safe.

I guarantee the same people who wrote that NYT article would never have even considered sitting in front of Mr Brown on the train. Any American cringes at the sight in the video of her choosing that seat. It's a shame that no one explained to Iryna these unwritten American rules, but the bigger shame is that America doesn't properly enforce its laws

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David Rinker's avatar

Always sit by a door and with your back to the wall or remain standing.

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RichT's avatar

It sounds like blaming the victim, but her lack of situational awareness is sad.

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MacGuffin's avatar

It's not blaming the victim. It's wishing someone had told her this important advice and really made her take it on board. If she had just sat among whites - there were whites further along the train because they came to help her - she would have been ok.

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Natalia L.'s avatar

It’s because in the former USSR public transport is one of the safest settings one can imagine. She just never had a chance to learn it’s so different in the land of the free.

Poor girl and what a tragedy for her mother and for her family.

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VeryVer's avatar

it was sad to see her just sitting there. she didn't have a racist bone in her body. her vulnerability alone would have protected her from all but the most monstrous animal.

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Dee Cartier-Johnson's avatar

She couldn't have known better. When you grow up with perfectly safe public transport, you take it for granted. She arrived in America with an Eastern European's sense of entitlement to scroll her phone peacefully on trams and the idea that American racism surely must be bad. And she was only 22, i.e. a teenager.

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RichT's avatar

My daughters are 20 and not sure how much better they know so talked to them about this. Will repeat in person when they’re back from college

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Mike's avatar

Per an El Gato Malo piece…1% of the population accountable for 63% of all violent crime

Secondly…80% of all crimes are committed by people with 3+ prior arrests.

IMHO…Seems pretty straightforward, 3 strikes and off you go. Either to prison or a mental institution until your expiration date.

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VeryVer's avatar

i hate to say it but large wars used to really cull the population of criminals and lunatics. we will need another mechanism now.

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Henrybowman's avatar

I've never been a proponent of the draft, all my life. However, I suspect it did much to cull out the stupid, the incompetent, and the criminal, and had the effect of instilling a patriotism largely lost today -- not from authoritarian indoctrination, but from personal lived experience in global theatres.

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Jon M's avatar

California already tried that, but with disparate impact, it lead to results that naive people just refused to accept.

The majority is still quite naive, and are still not ready to accept the consequences of 3 strikes. There was also a fear that the majority would be sentenced to life for simple drug possession, even if it wasn't true.

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Mike's avatar

It’s not naivety if it’s done intentionally

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Bash's avatar

I have a daughter just a few years younger than Iryna. I couldn't watch the video of her murder, I couldn't bear it.

I don't care how mentally ill DeCarlos is. I don't care if he was literally possessed by the devil. The only closure, partial closure, is for him to be executed - preferably violently, preferably publicly. And then his corpse fed to vultures. And then every memory of him erased from the public consciousness, so that the only thing that remains of his rotten soul burns in hell

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My 21-year-old niece, who is a student at George Tech (Atlanta), was attacked in broad daylight while walking down the street on a route she walks regularly. A homeless (and likely drug-addicted) black man came up behind her and slammed her onto the sidewalk. Fortunately, she was only stunned and bruised, and the assailant didn't end up taking anything. My brother was shocked, but he still had that conversation with her about situational awareness. He told her "You got lucky this time. Next time ... ?"

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David Rinker's avatar

Individual accountability is necessary, however society as a whole cannot escape responsibility for conditions within society. Witness the man behind, and the woman alongside, who saw and heard everything, and walked away through the blood. F**ked up society produces f**ked up people.

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Bash's avatar

My hope for myself in this situation is that i have the presence of mind to be suitably equipped or armed, of sufficient courage to act, and of sufficient skill to put him down quickly enough.

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Danielle's avatar

And then you would be Daniel Penny. Defending your own correct actions in a court.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Black, black irony here -- the federal government is prosecuting this killer, despite the well-understood (and long observed in the breach) principle that the feds have no "police powers." What federal law did he violate? A portion of the power-grabbing Patriot Act federalizes violent crime on any public transportation. If New York hadn't moved fast enough to indict Penny, it's almost certain that Feckless Joe would have done so himself.

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Henrybowman's avatar

There is an old adage describing exactly this outcome: "I'd be rather judged by 12 than carried by 6."

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Bash's avatar

Correct. And exactly how it should be. The only way this changes is if enough people take matters into their own hands, despite the system opposing them

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VeryVer's avatar

i truly hate those people more than the insane lunatic.

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MacGuffin's avatar

I was with you right up until 'erased from public consciousness'. On the contrary, I want us to say his name. Say it every day. Shout it every time some race hustler starts yammering about systemic oppression and yada yada.

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Mitch Lindner's avatar

I read this morning that North Carolina relies on magistrates to relieve the pressure on their overtaxed legal system. The magistrate that released this animal was not a judge, nor even has a law license. She is a typical libtard that operates in conjunction with liberal NGO's to destroy America. Apparently, she is laying low. Obviously, this moron can be fired, as she is not a real judge.

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Craig's avatar

She actually profited from it being the owner of a rehabilitation service. That’s a conclusion from her work history

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The Big Ugly's avatar

"these are true things that I have to say and I’m going to say them"

Preach, Brother. The fatigue is real.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Eugyppius, Your reference to the NYT mention of the 1898 Wilmington N.C. event leaves me speechless. How could they? I want to say “Have they no shame?”, but the answer is blindingly obvious.

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SSGJOHNZO's avatar

You cannot despise the establishment media enough.

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Henrybowman's avatar

Sometimes they have to reach back a century or more for an excuse, when not even their brain-dead readers will accept "But Trump!"

"Ukrainian Girl Murdered -- 19th Century Black Males Hardest Hit."

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Foxglove Farmer's avatar

Their old sore toe is always sorer and more life threatening than our current sore toe. It's hypochondriac, missing an empathy bone, entitled and infantile all at the same time. Front and centre is the only seat in the house, regardless how many heads they jackboot to get there.

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Eric F Coppolino's avatar

I am in New York. The "bail reform" law that took effect in Jan. 2020, making it impossible to hold most suspects on cash bail. So basically everyone gets out. Even Democrats agree that this is a problem, but nobody seems to be n a rush to do anything about it.

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VeryVer's avatar

maybe it's all a plot to get conservatives to move out of Dem cities. since conservatives are afraid of getting murdered but democrats are clueless idiots.

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PSW's avatar

I will very happily let them have their fucked up cities.

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

No, cities are important. They always have been, they probably always will be. Letting the left just wreck them all is a bad move for any society.

Unfortunately, because the left tend to accumulate in cities (due to being young), it's not clear how to solve it without something like franchise reform. Tying the ability to vote to level of tax contributed would work. Otherwise, just eliminating city mayors as a concept would also work. Way too many cities around the world have proven incapable of governing themselves, maybe it's time for governance systems to recognize that.

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RichT's avatar

How far are we from Snake Plissken becoming mayor?

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