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Pug's avatar

I simply will never understand why there isn't a long-term study happening with these death shots. There is a large % of people who are in the control group and have never taken a shot. Why isn't the health of the control group being compared with the health of the shotted? Yes, I know the answer is because they don't want to know and it would compromise the money being made off of these repurposed and failed cancer treatments. Such is science.

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eugyppius's avatar

the unwritten rule seems to be no long-term studies on any vaccines ever.

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jac's avatar

it’s not an unwritten rule. it‘s just unethical not to vax. so your control will recieve another vax as placebo.

can’t make this shit up. there’s ppl agreeing to participate in an experiment, basically, and then you have those corrupt ethics panels ALREADY ASSUMING A BENEFIT of the thing being studied or the fake placebo.

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eugyppius's avatar

sure, and that makes it harder, but there are nontrivial numbers of unvaccinated people out there. it would not be especially difficult to do a matched cohort study comparing outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated children. but, nobody is going to do that.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

When the passports were rolled out I joined VaxControlGroup & got the health card w my drivers license pic & Do Not Vaccinate notice kept in my wallet w insurance card but haven't followed their progress. It seems like a good source to tap since they're very likely the only game in town!

https://vaxcontrolgroup.com/

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carol ann's avatar

I am part of the vax control group as well. I am still completing their monthly health survey. Would love to see some analysis of the data that has been collected.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Why do that when the goal is extermination.

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jac's avatar

a few weeks back i saw a news item floating around that the havelklinik in berlin is mounting a vaxxed/unvaxxed study. i tried to find it for this comment but it completely vanished…

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the long warred's avatar

Why study?

Nothing will be done.

Write your book

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z28.310's avatar

Experts agreed it was more ethical to kill the safety study than withhold the shots. The highest value for The Science is "saving lives"

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PamelaDrew's avatar

No worries Fauci's wife was pandemic ethics lead & followed The Science all the way to the bank for decades.

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California Girl's avatar

Save us from "experts".

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Unfortunately, this just means, we're going to see more and more incidents of heart conditions occur :(

Welcome to the Dark Side of Medicine: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-dark-side-of-medicine-see-no

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Dr Cruz's avatar

I would like to read more about the projected incidence of disease expression subsequent to the clot-shot administration.

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z28.310's avatar

What would the reaction to a grant proposal requesting funding for such a study? Laughter at the scientist's naivety or anger at their insubordination?

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SCA's avatar

It would put those researchers on the permanent shit list. I doubt there's a one of them who doesn't know that.

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z28.310's avatar

I think that list is reserved for scientists that published studies The Science hates. Only at the point of publishing can everyone in charge of grant proposals understand the type of scientist you are.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I would bet on simply ignoring it.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Outright rejection would be the reaction.

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Danno's avatar

This has only become apparent since the failure of the COVID mRNA vax, and frankly it scares the hell out of me.

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Nanc's avatar

You know what scares the hell out of me? The gubment in my healthcare!

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Dr Cruz's avatar

They argue it will promote vaccine hesitancy, when in actuality the reverse is happening; that is, as people come to understand that vaccines are not studied and manufacturers are immune from liability, the tendency to become hesitant increases (at least among those who negotiated mass formation successfully).

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Lorn's avatar

RFK has gotten to you! Me too! The thing I took away from his campaign is exactly what you said. We are t allowed to answer the question. We could easily prove RFK wrong with a study.

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Nanc's avatar

Precisely! Never has been and never will be!

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Time honored policy of don't look-don't find & assume safety while profiteers hide behind claim "we see no harm" which is a perverted truth. Much of the drug business is also chemical & spills over to gmo crops and factory farms w Monsanto/Bayer & AstraZenica as prime examples.

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Maxstirner's avatar

Well either it's the next turning a sniffle into an elephant and stuffing everybody with experimental pharmaceutical products so shit that the thesis they're lethal by design (euthanasia) actually appears plausible OR they've been reading Gert vandenBossche and they've understood that any of these days the festering merry-go-round among the vaxxed Cov2.0 may to turn highly virulent, clear the field and allow herd immunity/return to equilibrium. You'd be left with all the naysayers in ultra bereaved silly angry mode plus a couple of covidians on special batches (Pfitzer AU apparently, as I learned as part of their congressional enquiry, which they are refreshingly serious about!). Now that'd be a bittersweet day. And I happen to have a ticket.

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Rob Kay's avatar

One of the reasons, well here in the UK, as Norman Fenton has shown, is that the health records simply cannot identify many of those who refused the shot. I'm (and my wife and son) are in the group who were in the census in 2011, and am also registered with a GP, but many unjabbed people fail to meet this rather odd criteria.

Nevertheless it would not be rocket science to draw a random sample of say 1M vaccinated and 1M unvaccinated from the UK database, adjust for age and sex, and compare their subsequent health events.

As you say, I am also astonished that this has not been done - or maybe it has, but the results are too shocking to be published.

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Tardigrade's avatar

In order to head off at the pass the argument that Covid infection could've caused the myocarditis, you might want to include that in the selection criteria. So there would need to be four arms: the unvaccinated uninfected, the unvaccinated infected, the vaccinated uninfected, and the vaccinated infected.

I recently took a 35-40 YO friend of mine to the emergency room with suspected heart issues. That did turn out to be the case, although I don't know the exact diagnosis. She is boosted to the max and has had serious Covid at least twice. When I gently wondered if the vaccine might be a suspect, she claimed it was the Covid infections if anything. See what I mean?

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Rob Kay's avatar

I did consider that, but as we all here probably had Covid in Dec 2019, we have no diagnostic confirmation . We had it again in May 2022, this time confirmed by Lateral flow at home, but never saw a doctor either. So I think that we would just have to assume that this information is unavailable.

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Tardigrade's avatar

It might not be impossible to figure out. Speaking for myself, I've only had one tiny little blip of URI since 2010. So I don't believe I've ever had Covid. I did have a couple of PCR tests, negative, and a couple of home tests, also negative, but I don't consider those by any means trustworthy; and if you go back to the old definition of "case" which includes symptoms, then I've never had Covid. Surely there are others.

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Danno's avatar

What you probably have is genetic immunity, which is normally present in at least 20% of the population. Even though it was a lab-modified virus, there was enough similarity to something in our past that your innate immune response blocked it before it had a chance to create symptoms.

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There were 4 commonly tested coronavirus variants via PCR prior to 2020. I had one in Oct 2019 that was a nasty cold that lasted a couple of weeks. Tested + for a human coronavirus. Now of course it is probable that that was an early SC2 infection, which provided immunity for several years. I have also read that the common SC2 PCR test (without sequencing) is not actually specific to SC2 and will get a positive on other coronaviruses that have been with us for a very long time.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I don't think so. What happened in 2010 was I adopted a ketogenic diet, which morphed into simple low-carb high-fat eating. Ever since the dietary change I have not had a cold, despite joining my family in multiple annual colds previously. I'm fairly confident in ascribing my resistance to Covid to a healthy immune system. So, as you say, my functioning immune system blocked Covid before it had a chance to create symptoms. That's how it's supposed to work.

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California Girl's avatar

You should realize that even "immunity" is a theory.

If doctors were serious about their belief in immunity, why would they not test for that before administering a vaccine? Why knowingly give you a pharmaceutical drug not proven to be completely "safe" when it might not be needed at all?

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Rob, I agree! I reckon I caught it Christmas 2019 - one of the first. It totally floored me and took a couple of weeks to get over. I got to the point where I thought I might have to see someone about it as it was pretty serious. But I resisted as I don't like to make a fuss. So no record.

No jabs or tests for me and all well ever since. What pandemic?

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Rob Kay's avatar

I don't know if we had Covid in late Dec 2019, but there are some suspicious circumstances.

Recall the World Military Games in Wuhan in fall 2019?

Well, lots of funny things happened at that time.

Many visitors said that the city was empty: nothing happening.

Our own visitor over the New Year was a young woman who happens to be an editor and reporter for a military newspaper for on the largest US Military bases in a South Eastern State.

And we all fell sick, and lost our sense of smell and taste - so badly that I even gave up smoking cigars!

Not that bad in retrospect, though she was grossly overweight and later hospitalised for a severe lung infection. She ended up with a $70k bill: doncha just love the USA?

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Danno's avatar

Why? Because the manufacturers wouldn't like the results, that's why. Besides the bad PR from having to pull their death shots off the market, it might make them vulnerable to all kinds of lawsuits and even criminal prosecution. It's become all too apparent how much influence they have on funding and publication for all studies related to their products. Since COVID, it's also become clear that they control the data as well. Their power to silence criticism is frightening.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Even if we exclude a comparison study w mRNA transfected v not, these adverse events are off the charts and red flags w epic Sigma deviations. Sudden & unexplained are now leading causes of death. There is not one iota of defense for not pulling these jabs months into Warp Speed deployment if not sooner w shoddy clinical trial showing great harm.

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Danno's avatar

They are afraid to pull them because that would legitimize their critics. They seem to have painted themselves into a corner.

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curt s sanders's avatar

This is much more than a cynical money grab Buy big Pharma. This is a bona fide Unqualified Psyop With almost 15,000 adverse reactions from this maniacal formulation. It was ordered by the DOD and they knew precisely what they had ordered.

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The Chad Rabbit's avatar

You'll understand.

You're close.

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CecilRhodes's avatar

It also bothers me that any study like this is confounded unless it expressly states that those that "got" heart damage from a case of Covid were also never vaxed. Not fake unvaxed (jabbed but under the bad side effect limit of 2 shots +14 -21 days) and also not vaxed but ill some time after. I do not trust that the clinically noticeable symptoms were just from the raw disease alone unless that has been expressly studied in virgin cohorts. Earlier studies before there was a vax showed no cases. Did that really change? Older cohorts were vaxed early and often.

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Douglas McClenaghan's avatar

You mean THE Science aka Holy Writ. They don't do research, they do propaganda.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It's not about money - trillion have been burned to make billions.

If it was about money why would they not simply inject a benign vaccine? Why maim and kill your customers?

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Jane Geraci's avatar

In the clinical trials the control groups were offered the shots after a few months! Definitely for the Pfizer shots at least.

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Lisa Reisman's avatar

Mind you we are speaking about myocarditis and related heart conditions only. The medical journals are oozing studies of all sorts of other statistically significant incidences of cancer and other harmful vaccine induced side effects. My super healthy 40 year old cousin just had a double mastectomy because of DCIS (ductile cancer). I forwarded her a study showing the vaccine likely caused that...

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Charlotte's avatar

Did she test for BRCA 1 and 2? The jabs suppress the p53 marker and that makes those women more likely to get their cancers they were already predisposed to. There are now 2 studies to back this. I can send you the info if you like. I first found this described inWelcome to Gilead by Arkmedic, here on substack.

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

yes, we need to look at the CANCER rates...

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Irena's avatar

My God, that's awful...

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Ben Kurtz's avatar

Double mastectomy for DCIS sounds like overkill. Sledgehammer to swat a fly and all that. Did her physician identify additional risk factors or complications that made this treatment advisable? Or was this a patient-led "nuke 'em from orbit, doc" situation because of cancer fear? I've known older ladies who've done just such a thing in these circumstances and they've gone on to regret it.

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SamizBOT's avatar

What was her reaction to the study?

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Lisa Reisman's avatar

I haven’t heard back hopefully, she doesn’t cancel me

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Jana Crawford's avatar

I consider this an act of love. I pray she comes to understand that.

You are a good friend. A very good friend.

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

I get the impression that the myocarditis is basically just a signal you see when they're injecting people with a highly immunogenic dose of whatever witch brew they came up with. It's the price you pay for a strong immune response to anything. You see it with Anthrax and Smallpox vaccines too.

An immune system fixated on WT Spike basically refuses to produce neutralizing antibodies against XBB variants:

https://www.rintrah.nl/xbb-1-the-variant-family-that-has-learned-how-to-use-vaccine-imprinting-to-its-own-advantage/

That's evolution at work: It evolves into whatever form prohibits the recalled antibodies from neutralizing it. None of this is shocking, although I expected it would happen faster than it did.

So now they're stuck having to fix this mess they created and the GENIUS solution they came up with is that they're going to try injecting boomers who have already received three shots of mRNA with 10 times the normal dose of their new XBB booster:

https://twitter.com/CovidSafeNZ/status/1683351894352330752?s=19

In other words, pursuing the exact solution that led to the severe imprinting and the heavy side effects in the first place.

Vaccines are like opioids for people with PhDs.

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z28.310's avatar

10x! This deserves that Kylo Ren meme screaming MORE!!!

Who remembers when they kept trying to pitch Novavax to the "vaccine hesitant"? As if mRNA was the only problem.

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The Chad Rabbit's avatar

It's funny that the immune system gets so fooled. It reminds me of illusion. People that grew up in round mud huts don't fall prey to the double-arrow illusion -- the one where the two lines of identical length appear to be different lengths because one is capped with outward-facing arrow points and the other with inward-facing arrow points. But people that grew up with square-angled architecture DO fall prey to the illusion -- the angled visual cues are telling those people that one line is closer than the other, so the "identical" length means nothing to the brain -- it sees the visual cues identifying distance, and it knows the one that is further away is longer just like it knows a quarter at arm's length isn't actually larger than the moon, and it can't unsee those visual cues.

I wonder if this immune imprinting stuff is like that.

Cheers

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Margaret's avatar

I agree. I find the topic depressing although I appreciate your research. My sons, now 22 and 25, had to get the vaccine to remain at university. One has to take 3 doses! I worried then and have a constant deep concern now whether there is a long term future of myocarditis for them. I don't read much of the data now because it makes me sad and angry.

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eugyppius's avatar

they should be in the clear, as all the cases cluster in the first two weeks after vaccination. but, it’s absolutely scandalous that American universities ever mandated vaccines for their students, and that some still won’t drop it.

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Margaret's avatar

Thanks for the positivity. I despise the university now -- really opened my eyes.

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Irena's avatar

I'm not American, but I studied in the United States. (I now live in Europe.) The college where I got my B.A. still mandates the gene juice. The university where I did my graduate work had a mandate (of course it did: it's one the of fanciest American universities, which means they Follow da Science (TM)), but has since dropped it. Both periodically send me donation requests. I LOL and then delete the e-mails. And I tell anyone who asks (and I do get asked on a semi-regular basis) to avoid American universities. It's not just the gene juice. It's also all the woke nonsense.

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

you can reply to the emails that you will never donate because they put mandates in place. This can never happen again...

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Tardigrade's avatar

If you let them know why, and enough people do that, it might actually make an impression.

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Irena's avatar

I understand your point, but by now, I feel so disgusted and so alienated from those places that I don't want to communicate with them in any way.

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Lena's avatar

That desire to withdraw - I get it. I work as a nurse in a hospital and after everything that has happened, I want as little contact with the medical field as possible. I am fine at work but personally - I don’t want to engage with these people. Or universities - which is amazing because before becoming a nurse I took university level classes almost continuously between age 18 - 40. I hate these people and institutions.

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shibumi's avatar

Our great nephew is entering college this fall. He was originally slated to go to a Big Ten school and at the last minute (at graduation) decided to go to a less prestigious school that did NOT require the jab.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Good for him! Your great nephew is a smart kid. You must be proud. I wish him well.

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

The college mandates are even more offensive than the Gov't employee mandates, as they target the healthiest least-at-risk people. Yes, they continue; all U.S. college alumni need to protest this...

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Swen Gerards's avatar

The myocarditis happens right after the shots. Since the LNPs carrying the mRNA to the cells of your body are being distributed everywhere in your body. That is shown in Pfizer's own study they handed over to the FDA late 2020. See here table 1 page 23-24: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/125742_S1_M4_4223_185350.pdf

It is beyond me, that this study is not more well known by now. It shows that 15 minutes after IM (!) injection the LNPs can be traced in the blood/plasma and every organ and tissue in the body of the mice/rats that were used in the study.

Your sons likely have been damaged by the shots they got. How much, which organs are involved, only the future will tell. Sadly, these drugs were never safe. They could not possibly be safe, because the LNPs are untargeted. Meaning they do not care which cells they turn into spike factories and make them into targets for the immune system. And the organ damage can also occur much later, because the jabs can lead to damage to the endothelial lining of blood vessels, which in turn can lead to numerous conditions. Dr. Campbell for instance is now suffering from high blood pressure. I would think due to endothelial damage which made his blood vessels less capable of contracting and expanding (likely elastic fibers were destroyed, which never regenerate after puberty and are necessary for the integrity of blood vessels).

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Swen: Thank you for the honest answer so many others make every effort to avoid.

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Swen Gerards's avatar

I go a little more into depth here: https://ghostfromthefuture.substack.com/p/i-have-questions

And there is so much more... I would recommend reading doorless carp substack.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Thank you, Swen.

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Patricia's avatar

I am not 100% sure but I thought I heard Dr Campbell say he had the Astra Zeneca adenovirus DNA shots - it was a long time ago and I can't remember which video it was on as I have watched lots of his since he got red pilled.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Removal of tonsils is NOT a treatment or cure for strep throat infections. The tonsils are part of our immune system.

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Mary's avatar

My goodness. When did doctors start removing tonsils to eliminate strep throat? Lucky for me I was given antibiotics in the 1990's for my strep throat. Earlier this year. The lemon essential oil stopped my tonsil inflammation and swallowing discomfort dead in its track.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I would have bid the university adios. There is no good reason to get the vaccine.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Exactly right, Jimmy! Absolutely no THINKING person "had to" get a covid shot - No matter who said so.

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Mary's avatar

I'll never figure out why some people have so much faith and trust in the people and the things that keep them sick, diseased and enslaved on every front.

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SCA's avatar

It was my habit, from the time my kid was a baby, to give him Vitamin C right before and aftter any vaccination. I'm very grateful that he continues, as an adult, to routinely take a daily 1000 mg dose.

It's an excellent anti-inflammatory in addition to all the other remarkable things it does. Perhaps you can encourage them to take it--tell them just for maternal peace of mind if that will get them to do it.

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Deb Hawthorne's avatar

Same here. My daughter had to take 3 so far being in the medical field. She already had a heart murmur since childhood. I fear her heart has been damaged and she won’t let me share any info about the vaccines with her as she doesn’t want to hear my ridiculous conspiracy theories. She has not been well. She may have had a blood clot in deep vein in leg which dissolved on its own but she now has fluid back up in that leg and her foot is huge. They say there is nothing they can do. She is only 28. Everyday I fear I will get a call . It’s hard to live in this environment. Sometimes I think I should just stop reading all the data coming out non stop. Nothing changes. They keep pushing these shots. If my daughter succumbs and takes one more I fear the outcome. Her poor body is already damaged. I think all the worrying is affecting my health!

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Margaret's avatar

Deb I am so sorry. My boys came around and now recognize that they have to live extra healthy. Your daughter may change her mind one day. I don't read any more covid studies but I always appreciate eugyppius's take.

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Jonathan Engler's avatar

You are quite right to point out that:

"The vaccines don’t stop infection, so you’re not trading one risk for the other here."

Of course, the truth is possibly / probably worse:

- they may increase the rate of infection

- they may impair the immune response to infection resulting in more severe disease ("ADE")

- they may act synergistically in some way with infection to make an auto-immune response more harmaful

Let us also not forget that myocarditis is but one side effect of many.

The jabaholics will tell you that the injections protect the individual against myocarditis.

When pressed for why this must be the case they merely rely on the fact that myocarditis is a severe adverse event and as (in their minds) the injections prevent severe disease they must prevent all serious adverse events.

Yes, they really are that simple.

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eugyppius's avatar

oh, I absolutely agree that the vaccines likely enhance transmission via variety of effects, including by introducing immune tolerance, focussing the immune response on obsolete epitopes, and of course driving virus evolution away from the vaccine. and nobody really wants to do any studies on the degree to which vaccines reduce the (near-zero) myocarditis-from-infection-risk in young cohorts

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Jonathan Engler's avatar

What a world we live in.

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

the mantra that "the myocarditis risk from Covid infection is far greater than from the vax" continues everywhere; if there is no evidence of this (or contrary evidence), that needs attention

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shibumi's avatar

Oh, not only that. Apparently healthy people have always suddenly dropped dead from blood clots. And cancer rates would naturally be high because "missed screenings." And so on. Excuse after excuse.

I've given up on these people. No matter what you do, they simply will not break out of the programming.

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Mary's avatar

You right Shibuni. I just move on to try and help people who I sense there is hope for. I was talking to a diabetic the other day about drinking at least 2 quarts of water daily and reducing salt intake to fight against water retention, and he welcomed the news.

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shibumi's avatar

I had a conversation with a guy at the grocery store. Job forced him to be vaxxed, and now he has kidney issues. I try to be very gentle with people and not scare them. Suggested using nattokinese and/or NAC to "reset your immune system." Also suggested searching "spike protein detox."

I think people can get their heads around "reset your immune system" or "detox," but not "you got injected with something that very well might shorten your life expontentially."

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Mary's avatar

Good points Shibuni. However, I still encounter several people who only look to the medical cabal for healthcare solutions. And I'm not sure there is any medical hope for those people. They have allowed themselves to be deceived into believing that their only hope for good health and healing is through allopathic medical treatments and pharmaceutical drugs. I'm not saying that those two industries never benefited anyone. But this is certainly not the time to be dependant on that system for healing or health improvement.

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Charlotte's avatar

Maybe you could do a quick rundown on 3 different ways the jabs could increase cancer rates? I just battled cancer and still frequently go to the oncologist for check ups and they really really dislike/fear me because it says in my chart that i won’t take the jab because it can suppress the P53. ( that’s a naturally occurring process that helps suppress tumors in our body and the jab apparently stops it from working properly). It’s very niche and exactly the area they study so they hate that i read the study. But now there is also SV40 that it suppresses and there’s the huge increase of IgG4 post boosters. It really does seem that the boosters tip people into all sorts of other new issues.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Having sailed through a breast cancer blip in late 2019, I keep an eye on this news also. I was bamboozled into accepting the original Moderna shots, but then wised up. For a cancer survivor, recurrence is a constant worry. That the shots possibly worsened the odds makes me mad.

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Mark Ch's avatar

The only real question remaining is how long it takes for the risk of cardiac illness to return to normal after vaccination. And it's a big question.

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eugyppius's avatar

the most severe diagnosed events are generally within a week (at most two) of vaccination, but how long to return to normal, is hard to know. and ofc the further out from the vaccination, the more likely your myocarditis won't be attributed to the vaccine, because of prior assumptions.

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Charlotte's avatar

I think we have to factor in natural COVID cases post jab, as an added risk factor. If there is some cardiac damage and then you catch COVID again months later, you can still get myocarditis. It happened to my former neighbor. Also, you don’t cure myocarditis, it’s permanent heart muscle damage. I’m afraid it’s bad news all around.

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Swen Gerards's avatar

Correct. The damage is permanent. If you "only" lost some myocardial cells, you are lucky. Worse if that led to scarring or ectopic foci.

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Markker's avatar

The cardiologists say once your heart is damaged, it is permanent and 50% will die in 5 years. Many of these "died suddenly" younger people took jabs 12 months or so ago.

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DUANE's avatar

I seem to remember Dr. McCullough also saying that even if a person recovers from myocarditis, the likelihood of losing years on the tail end of their life was quite probable.

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Fear's avatar

There is no "return to normal" after heart damage has occured, no matter how minor. The myocardial cells do not regenerate like other cells can, they simply scar over. These small ventricular scars are probably what's leading to all these sudden deaths due to arrhythmias.

The people that are so afflicted often don't know it until they literally drop dead. The only silver lining is most of these people don't suffer at all, they'll never even know what hit them.

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MaryLS's avatar

Damar Hamlin is right to be nervous about returning to football. Presumably he is going to start practicing with his team.

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Fear's avatar

Maybe they implanted a pacemaker/defibrillator...?

Short of a heart transplant I don't see how he'd ever play that sport again.

We all saw the first interview with him where his silence on the cause confirmed what we all know. My guess is they've reached a yuge $$$$ settlement with the requirement that he keep his mouth shut. The return to football is likely a simple lie.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Bad idea, Damar.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

It never "returns to normal."

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The Green Hornet's avatar

So much safe and effective. 🙄

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Good news, all they have to do is redefine safe and effective.

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Fat Clemenza's avatar

If you can redefine “vaccine,” you can redefine “safe” and “effective.”

CoVax are more than a money grab - they are either or both a population control tool to kill billions or a mind programming tool to enslave billions.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Apparently they've ALREADY defined "safe and effective" as "nothing to be seen here."

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Awkward Git's avatar

MHRA's official definitions for safe and effective:

https://awkwardgit.substack.com/p/mhras-official-definition-of-safe

Safe:

There is no ‘metric or standard’ used by the MHRA to quantify ‘safe’ in terms of a COVID-19 vaccine, or any other medicinal product. No medicine is completely risk-free. For a medicine to be considered acceptably safe, its expected benefits should be greater than any associated risks of harmful reactions. This can be determined based on the data submitted with an application for a marketing authorisation for a medicinal product such as a COVID-19 vaccine. But the balance of benefits and risks for any product can change at any time during its marketed life, for example if a serious new side effect is established.

Effective:

Vaccine efficacy is usually measured in randomised controlled clinical trials. It is calculated by comparing the proportion of trial subjects that developed symptomatic COVID-19 in the vaccine arm with the proportion that developed symptomatic COVID-19 in the placebo arm. The calculation is made after a certain number of COVID-19 cases have occurred in the trial as a whole. This number is decided at the start of the trial. This means that a time period is not chosen.

I've heard exactly the same phrases and definitions sued in other countries so I'd say they all have the same prepared script to quote from given from on high.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Safe and effective is advertising speak for new and improved. The words mean nothing and should be indicators we are being lied to.

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dondonsurvelo's avatar

Maui County Council, all vaxxed, just announced they will be doing meetings from this day forward online as there are still covid cases on Maui.

Depressing to see the idiocy of government.

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Tardigrade's avatar

My local (tiny) town government is finally getting around to allowing physical attendance at meetings. Hybrid (combination physical + zoom) is actually kind of nice because it allows people to attend who are out of town. But it's amazing that it's taken so long to even start approaching normality. And there are some people who will never congregate again, which is very sad.

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

Thank you. Yes, depressing, and maybe "we all already know what's going on," but the increasing evidence isn't yet penetrating Main Stream Media (for whatever it's worth).

Check the Los Angeles Times to enjoy one of the most obstinate propaganda pushers.

18 year-old Bronny James has a heart attack playing basketball at the University of Southern California, and guest expert Dr. Satyajit Reddy assures us in a Q&A that the vaccine has no connection (and subsequent articles attempt to normalize heart attacks in 18 year-olds as just "the risk of playing sports")...

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2023-07-25/why-would-a-young-healthy-athlete-go-into-cardiac-arrest

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Wendy Bowden's avatar

And yet the ever present fact checkers have flagged my fb post sharing Dr John Campbell’s video citing it as false information. CDC is set to declare covid vaccines will be an annual jab and will be incorporated with flu vaccines. These covid jabs will once again be “new and improved” with zero studies, trials and data. This is the largest and most atrocious human experiment in history.

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Viv's avatar

The DPA are correct in that the study says nothing about the relative risk of myocarditis for vaccine vs covid infection, but it's also the wrong question. The correct question is what is the relative risk of myocarditis for vaccine then infection, against for no vaccine then infection.

All studies performed during 2020-2022 suffer from the problem that during this time most of the population moved, steadily, in one direction, from uninfected and unvaccinated, to vaccinated, or vaccinated and infected.

Since the vaccine dramatically loses efficacy within months of administration, you are reliant on the increase in risk from the vaccine being offset by any residual impact on disease severity when your inevitable, perhaps slightly delayed, infection comes along.

Also most of the vaccine-induced myocarditis is sub-clinical, and patients will never end up in studies like these. So sub-clinical, get over it? No, no killing of heart tissue is ever trivial. We all suffer some amount, but we want it minimised as far as possible. To be an acceptable side effect of any intervention you need much more benefit from the intervention than the covid vaccine provides.

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The Real Dr. Steven Horvitz's avatar

The question should be:

Does COVID infection, the spike protein from the vax, or other viral infections or non-mRNA vaccines have different rates of myocarditis injuries and/or deaths?

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eugyppius's avatar

it’s hard to answer this question from the data I’ve seen, but Covid-related myocarditis looks in terms of age distribution etc. a lot like baseline myocarditis cases. the vaxx-related cases totally different, for being concentrated in young people.

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Clay's avatar

How would a covid infection cause myocarditis? Wouldn't an active infection stay mostly in the cells where it entered the body in the respiratory tract, and not travel to all the other tissues in the body like the jab does?

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

THANK YOU. you'd think the whole medical world might be interested in this question...

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Ludger Gesigora's avatar

1 - The Thailand study showed nearly 30% of kids had abnormal cardiac biomarkers after the shot

https://www.mdpi.com/2414-6366/7/8/196

2 - Subclinical myocarditis estimates 3.5%: 13-18 yo ♂️ post dose 2 pfizer

https://preprints.org/manuscript/202208.0151/v1 , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36006288/

3 - Subclinical myocarditis estimates 3.7%: adult ♀️ post 1st moderna booster

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ejhf.2978

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eugyppius's avatar

i covered the thai study last year here: https://www.eugyppius.com/p/horrifying-thai-study-finds-evidence

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Ludger Gesigora's avatar

thank you so much for your valuable work !

(I might have failed to see your substack on the Thai study, because I hadn't become acquainted with your substack-essays at that time yet - so thanks so much for informing me of that your substack-analysis!)

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shibumi's avatar

Future headline:

"Abnormal cardiac biomarkers caused by C0VID infection"

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Don Midwest's avatar

Important article on legal aspects of Informed Consent.

As a joke, I am suggesting a new slogan. The one "let doctors be doctors" is old had and has been formalized in law in a few states in the US - e.g., doctors can prescribe FDA approved medicines without being controlled by FDA, CDC, guidelines so they can prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychlorine and other drugs as they see fit.

My new slogan is "let patients be patients" - i.e., let them have informed consent. from truthful material on adverse events of a treatment.

The legal statement of Informed Consent includes a summary of the nightmare of the "pandemic". The statement is included in a substack by Robert Malone.

COVID-19 Vaccines and Informed Consent

ROBERT W MALONE MD, MS 2 HR AGO

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/covid-19-vaccines-and-informed-consent-cc1

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LAnoncompliant's avatar

Thank you; and after being ridiculed for 3 years, those patients who "do their own research on the internet" need to claim that endeavor as valid and respectable (and likely life-saving)...

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Cindi's avatar

All tied to “climate change” now!

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