A news article at Science throws water on the prospect of an impending SARS-2, RSV and influenza “tripledemic”, pointing to “a growing body of epidemiological and laboratory evidence” which suggests that “SARS-CoV-2 and other respiratory viruses often ‘interfere’ with each other.” There is therefore little chance that all three viruses “will peak together and collectively crash hospital systems.”
People aren't generally bothered by coughing & sneezing?
Perhaps once upon a time they weren't bothered.
In May I was returning to the US from a vacation. This was peak allergy season for me, and I accidentally packed my OTC allergy meds in my checked luggage. Halfway between Zurich & the US, I had a dry cough, which I treated with frequent sips of water. (Note: this was AFTER the airlines lifted the mandatory mask requirement.)
Welll....
The masked 20 & 30-somethings were horrified, looking at me like I"m Typhoid Mary.
The "older" passengers didn't bat an eye.
As I was leaving the plane, a flight attendant whispered to me that I should, in the future, wear a mask because I was coughing.
I snapped at her: I do NOT have COVID. I had to take a TEST before I boarded the flight. Masks do NOT work. I have ALLERGIES. Springtime pollen causes me to cough & sneeze. Anyone who's anxious about a cough & a sneeze needs to GET OVER IT....and KISS MY ASS.
All this is interesting from the point of view of basic science, which is fine. It is also of interest to people who earn their living by getting research grants. It is easy to look at this complex set of relationships and argue that more research is needed.
However, for those people who genuinely want to minimise the impact of viruses, including by limiting average viral shedding due to lower disease severity, and so to reduce overall rates of transmission, there is one intervention which stands out as being far more effective than anything which comes out of conventional research: boosting everyone's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels from the typical (in the absence of lots of UV-B skin exposure or proper vitamin D3 supplementation) 5 to 25 ng/mL (12.5 to 62.5 nmol/L) to at least the 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) level which the immune system needs to work properly.
For 70 kg 154 lb bodyweight without obesity, this requires, on average 0.125 mg 5000 IU of vitamin D3 a day. This takes a few months to build up the levels. This is a gram every 22 years, and pharma grade vitamin D3 costs about USD$2.50 a gram ex-factory.
All sound too simple to be true? Please read the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/ and in the recent Nutrients article by New Jersey Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa "Rapidly Increasing Serum 25(OH)D Boosts the Immune System, against Infections - Sepsis and COVID-19: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/14/2997 .
Most of conventional medicine is mistaken or at least has something seriously missing as long as doctors go about their business with patients without first ensuring they have enough circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D for their immune systems to work properly.
Hasn't it been completely obvious that there is a "survival of the fittest" and "whack a mole" phenomena occurring in the battle against respiratory viruses? That targeting one virus, if done effectively, simply advantages another circulating virus. There has been data that shows that the influenza vaccine doesn't reduce your risk of getting "sick", in general, but instead reduces your risk of getting sick from the targeted strain. But regardless, people still get sick with some sort of respiratory virus. Obviously, it's more complicated and with many variables. But, the simplistic concept that the flu vax "reduces your risk of getting sick" is total b.s. Who knows, perhaps covid was the result of a highly effective flu vaccine, paving the way for a novel coronavirus to be the predominant circulating respiratory virus. Perhaps it's a phenomena that is bound to occur with all of our tinkering.
I've always thought people make too much fuss over coughs and colds. Scientists seem particularly keen on viruses don't they? Good hygiene, good health and luck is what people need to stay alive!!!
Science has become Science Fiction. Don’t believe any of it from “official” sources any longer. FYI, this is from a neuroscientist with a handful of discoveries published in Science magazine. Pretty sad.
"This is probably one of the reasons that containment policy and virus mortality often seem to be so closely correlated. Care homes, for example, were subject to some of the most zealous containment measures of all, and they were repeatedly ravaged by high-mortality SARS-2 outbreaks."
I don't know if this is debunked. It sounds plausible. The impact of these hypotheses is that lockdown was even worse: it contributed to the death rate. I wonder if this can be captured in numbers.
We are nowhere near the point of fully understanding our microbiome nor microvirome, despite attempts from those that claim to know that using an immunological sledge hammer carries with it no negative impacts on our immune systems.
Many viruses, retroviruses, phages, etc all compete for space in their ecosystems which are our bodies, and all the other animals on our planet. This interplay is not simple, and one imagines that most of these agents have formed a consensual relationship with their hosts over time, such that their success, which is predicated on our success, forms a defense system that, in a health individual, one perturbs at one's peril.
Another great article! So interesting to find out there's such an interplay between viruses and the results of trying to suppres them. It seems like hubris is at the core of all these terrible interventions, people believing they can out-nature nature and getting it wrong. It's the precautionary princliple in reverse - lets try it and see what happens instead of lets not try it till we know what happens. I work in a school and usually viruses go around at this time of year but this year is different. For instance we've had chicken pox which is normal, but instead of infecting a few children it has gone though entire classes and the whole school, that's not normal and I don't know if it's becasue they didn't mix for so long and then they get it all at once but that seems likely. It seems to be happening with other illnesses too.
Just like with masks, natural herd immunity and immunology 101 the entire world wide medical profession just simply forgot everything it knew prior to covid. With a few notable exceptions, of course.
Nov 22, 2022·edited Nov 22, 2022Liked by eugyppius
I'd like to point out that the interplay between rhino and SARS-CoV-2, per the Biofire panel, mirrors the interplay between influenza A and rhino in the Scotland study: https://syndromictrends.com
Also note in the Biofire data that rhino and influenza A have been up and down at the same times, of late.
I find prolonged unsubstantiated FEAR revolting.
People aren't generally bothered by coughing & sneezing?
Perhaps once upon a time they weren't bothered.
In May I was returning to the US from a vacation. This was peak allergy season for me, and I accidentally packed my OTC allergy meds in my checked luggage. Halfway between Zurich & the US, I had a dry cough, which I treated with frequent sips of water. (Note: this was AFTER the airlines lifted the mandatory mask requirement.)
Welll....
The masked 20 & 30-somethings were horrified, looking at me like I"m Typhoid Mary.
The "older" passengers didn't bat an eye.
As I was leaving the plane, a flight attendant whispered to me that I should, in the future, wear a mask because I was coughing.
I snapped at her: I do NOT have COVID. I had to take a TEST before I boarded the flight. Masks do NOT work. I have ALLERGIES. Springtime pollen causes me to cough & sneeze. Anyone who's anxious about a cough & a sneeze needs to GET OVER IT....and KISS MY ASS.
it's kinda like we all got vaccine induced alzheimer's or something
Thanks for this most interesting report.
All this is interesting from the point of view of basic science, which is fine. It is also of interest to people who earn their living by getting research grants. It is easy to look at this complex set of relationships and argue that more research is needed.
However, for those people who genuinely want to minimise the impact of viruses, including by limiting average viral shedding due to lower disease severity, and so to reduce overall rates of transmission, there is one intervention which stands out as being far more effective than anything which comes out of conventional research: boosting everyone's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels from the typical (in the absence of lots of UV-B skin exposure or proper vitamin D3 supplementation) 5 to 25 ng/mL (12.5 to 62.5 nmol/L) to at least the 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) level which the immune system needs to work properly.
For 70 kg 154 lb bodyweight without obesity, this requires, on average 0.125 mg 5000 IU of vitamin D3 a day. This takes a few months to build up the levels. This is a gram every 22 years, and pharma grade vitamin D3 costs about USD$2.50 a gram ex-factory.
All sound too simple to be true? Please read the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/ and in the recent Nutrients article by New Jersey Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa "Rapidly Increasing Serum 25(OH)D Boosts the Immune System, against Infections - Sepsis and COVID-19: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/14/2997 .
Most of conventional medicine is mistaken or at least has something seriously missing as long as doctors go about their business with patients without first ensuring they have enough circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D for their immune systems to work properly.
" It’s a powerful reason to avoid interference with the broader viral ecosystem via insane policies like mass containment."
I wonder: Is it also a powerful reason to be cautious about mass vaccination?
Hasn't it been completely obvious that there is a "survival of the fittest" and "whack a mole" phenomena occurring in the battle against respiratory viruses? That targeting one virus, if done effectively, simply advantages another circulating virus. There has been data that shows that the influenza vaccine doesn't reduce your risk of getting "sick", in general, but instead reduces your risk of getting sick from the targeted strain. But regardless, people still get sick with some sort of respiratory virus. Obviously, it's more complicated and with many variables. But, the simplistic concept that the flu vax "reduces your risk of getting sick" is total b.s. Who knows, perhaps covid was the result of a highly effective flu vaccine, paving the way for a novel coronavirus to be the predominant circulating respiratory virus. Perhaps it's a phenomena that is bound to occur with all of our tinkering.
That was interesting - thank you.
I've always thought people make too much fuss over coughs and colds. Scientists seem particularly keen on viruses don't they? Good hygiene, good health and luck is what people need to stay alive!!!
Science has become Science Fiction. Don’t believe any of it from “official” sources any longer. FYI, this is from a neuroscientist with a handful of discoveries published in Science magazine. Pretty sad.
I almost feel badly for the covid cultists that spent so much time rewriting basic virology and immunology. 🙄
"This is probably one of the reasons that containment policy and virus mortality often seem to be so closely correlated. Care homes, for example, were subject to some of the most zealous containment measures of all, and they were repeatedly ravaged by high-mortality SARS-2 outbreaks."
I don't know if this is debunked. It sounds plausible. The impact of these hypotheses is that lockdown was even worse: it contributed to the death rate. I wonder if this can be captured in numbers.
We are nowhere near the point of fully understanding our microbiome nor microvirome, despite attempts from those that claim to know that using an immunological sledge hammer carries with it no negative impacts on our immune systems.
Many viruses, retroviruses, phages, etc all compete for space in their ecosystems which are our bodies, and all the other animals on our planet. This interplay is not simple, and one imagines that most of these agents have formed a consensual relationship with their hosts over time, such that their success, which is predicated on our success, forms a defense system that, in a health individual, one perturbs at one's peril.
Another great article! So interesting to find out there's such an interplay between viruses and the results of trying to suppres them. It seems like hubris is at the core of all these terrible interventions, people believing they can out-nature nature and getting it wrong. It's the precautionary princliple in reverse - lets try it and see what happens instead of lets not try it till we know what happens. I work in a school and usually viruses go around at this time of year but this year is different. For instance we've had chicken pox which is normal, but instead of infecting a few children it has gone though entire classes and the whole school, that's not normal and I don't know if it's becasue they didn't mix for so long and then they get it all at once but that seems likely. It seems to be happening with other illnesses too.
Just like with masks, natural herd immunity and immunology 101 the entire world wide medical profession just simply forgot everything it knew prior to covid. With a few notable exceptions, of course.
I'd like to point out that the interplay between rhino and SARS-CoV-2, per the Biofire panel, mirrors the interplay between influenza A and rhino in the Scotland study: https://syndromictrends.com
Also note in the Biofire data that rhino and influenza A have been up and down at the same times, of late.
This is phenomenal. I want to send it to every freaked-out ninny I know.
Coughs and sneezes spread diseases and in days of yore,we kept calm and carried on.
Now that the penny seems to be dropping finally, perhaps we might resume the old sensible policies.
One multiply jabbed friend is tecovering from a particularly virulent flu bout, but will never question what has been done to us since 2020.