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Reading your piece, I was reminded of this quote.

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."

Malcolm X

While I am overall, not a big fan of Malcolm X, he was right on the money with this quote. We all know that the media has the power to control the minds of the masses. We saw that with Covid. It is very unfortunate that these acts have occurred and they must be condemned in all cases. However, it is particularly disgusting when one side uses it for a political advantage. It is both irresponsible and dangerous. Sadly, it seems like most politicians and members of the media don't care, as long as their side retains power; consequences be damned. Power is the goal and they use everything they do in a justifiable manner as a means to this end. Of course, it's all for "the greater good." Ethics and morality seem to have left the building long ago. We're living in a time period devoid of civility.

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Malcolm X was what you might call a real man--someone with the courage to grow and to repudiate beliefs he later found to be untruthful. He still remained a cult believer but had moved to the mainstream rather than with the fringe. And he was savagely intelligent from the start.

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Very true. Most Americans don't know that he was as important to the black liberation movement as MLK was, and personally, I found his ideas and analysis to be more accurate and grounded. We keep pretending black folks want to move on and live in peace with us white folks, but that's a myth that MLK sold us. Most don't seem to want that and Malcolm X spoke honestly about that deep rage and hatred of the white man. That's what DEI has harnessed most of all, a la Franz Fanon. The oppressed have a right to hate their oppressors? Right? Even if they are no longer being oppressed? I was shocked to find out how much many black people hate whites today.

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Oppressed and/or persecuted? Blacks and Jews. How different both „groups“ dealt with diversity. Now, there is a bag of worms I opened…….

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Probably you should not get me started on MLK Jr who in my view was an absolute schmuck with one o' them messiah complexes who was more than comfortable betraying the people to whom he owed the most loyalty and care.

Otherwise a great guy, undoubtedly.

Edit: In the latter part of his life after having gone on hajj and met Muslims of every ethnicity, including blue-eyed blonde former devils, Malcolm X became someone extremely dangerous to pieces of shit like Farrakhan. And we see who's alive and who's dead.

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Spot on about Farrakhan. Wrt MLK, I haven't gone deep, but have seen some questionable accounts and stories about FBI files that were concerning. My biggest problem is his veering into Marxism when he'd earlier been opposed. There was a great struggle within the Civil Rights Movement against the Marxists and revolutionaries. Many of the so called "Freedom Riders" (read as White Saviors from the Northeast) were Marxist and saw the race issue as something they could spin up into a revolution or at last more division. Of course, the Marxists won and here we are today.

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My biggest problem with MLK was his fucking around as hard and often as he could while playing the Moral Savior of the Nation which was a lot more fun than being a husband to his wife or a father to his children.

I know I have unrealistic standards. But for me there's no public/private life divide. You betray the people to whom you owe the most loyalty, why should I think you won't fuck me over too?

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I know some guys who cheat on their wives that I'd trust with my life in a heartbeat, so that really doesn't go far with me. But the sexual assaults and orgies that were reported are deeply concerning. However, I've never looked deeply into all of that, and I always like to hear the critique of these stories before I accept them. As for what he was selling, I bought and lived the 'color blind' society. Silly me, what a sucker I've been.

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Something to keep in mind about controversial (I'm being charitable here!) figures such as Malcolm X, Josef Stalin, Hermann Goering, Klaus Schwab, and even Vladimir Putin: No matter how much you might disagree with them, remember that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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Parallel to the endless and explicit Jew-hate from the campus groups in the US immediately being buried when a two-second clip appeared of a white frat guy making an inappropriate joke toward a black female protestor. 10000 examples of (much worse) misbehavior from our team will be ignored in favor of endless repetition of one minor offense from your team. Media is nothing but regime propaganda now.

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the German leftist parties have a literal informal militia (Antifa) that runs around assaulting and intimidating all kinds of people and nobody ever talks about that, but a random assault with unclear motivations becomes a national tragedy. it's profoundly frustrating.

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May 6·edited May 6Liked by eugyppius

Antifa was actively intimidating freedom protesters in the US during the lockdown. They were also guilty of helping to plan and foster the Floyd riots - another intimidation operation. Now, finally, a few of the worst offenders are being brought to justice.

https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-san-diego-jury-convicts-two-so-cal-antifa-members-of-felony-conspiracy-to-riot-with-co-conspirators?/cfp

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It's about time.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

History actually repeating itself. Who would have guessed?

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In life very few people don't have a "side." Very few people actually want Truth and Justice regardless of what those two concepts of advanced civilizations might reveal.

My Friend-From-Fifth-Grade accuses me from time to time of being a Trumper because I believe everyone should receive true justice and not be persecuted by the legal system on fraudulent bases but only be charged for actual evidence of crime, and this despite her voting for him once and me voting for him never.

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They are mostly peaceful protests.

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I am not seeing "endless and explicit Jew-hate" on campus. I am seeing young people, many of whom are Jewish, protesting a g*notice and US funding of it.

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Many of those Jewish young people have not yet learned that ethnicity is indelible though one can assume any philosophical belief one chooses, and one's earnest allyship is not an invincible shield for when those allied with stop finding you useful.

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What is a g*notice?

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It is a word my tablet prefers to g*nocide wheI I am trying to evade the eye of Sauron.

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There is no genocide—the extermination of an entire people—this is an evil lie and slander. I can only guess that in wanting to defend Hamas—a theocratic cult of terrorists who proclaim their desire for genocide in their own charter and public statements—the only way to do so is to tell a total lie to hide the truth.

If Israel wanted to destroy every Palestinian they could in one night, yet that haven't; if the Palestinians had the means to kill every Jew on earth they would have done so already. The IDF does their best to follow the laws of war—which this is, A WAR, and which was begun when Hamas violated the most recent ceasefire with the barbaric massacre of 10/7—and as we speak they are creating corridors for civilian evacuation and building tent camps for refugees. Please tell me one other genocide in modern history—Nazis v Jews, Turks v Armenians, Hutus v Tutsi—where the perpetrator tried to move its opponents out of harm's way and where all the violence would end if the losing side sued for peace? You think if the Tutsis dropped their weapons and surrendered they would have survived? Or the Jews in the Third Reich? They were all murdered by the thousands with no mercy.

This entire war could end today if the leaders of Hamas cared about their own people as Westerners do, who have wept enough crocodile tears over the Palestinians to flood the Nile. Even if you take at face value the numbers reported by Hamas, Israel has killed no more than 1% to 2% of the Palestinians, many of them terrorists from Hamas, who also terrorize their own people by hiding their HQs in hospitals and schools. A far cry from "genocide".

This is Hamas' war and Hamas' doing and they could end it right now if they wanted to. The genocide charge is a hateful lie.

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Hamas remains unscathed. Babies? Not so much. Remember what General McCrystal said about Afghanistan. 10-2=20. If you have 10 terrorists and kill 2 you end up with 20 terrorists.

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Hamas hides in schools and hospitals and uses babies as meat shields. Every one of their leaders is on record saying that they don't care how many of their own people are murdered. This is grotesque.

Hamas wants its people, including and perhaps especially its children, to die. And it wants those deaths to be photographed, and to circulate throughout the world. Hamas is a death cult, for Palestinians and Israelis alike.

None of what Israel is doing equals "genocide."

It's a hateful ugly lie you demean yourself by regurgitating.

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If you actually look you'll find that the official definition of genocide is much broader than "the extermination of an entire people", and Israel's present conduct absolutely does qualify.

I agree it confuses people, but it's a reasonable conservative approach to have a broad definition, and it's too late to change the rules now just because it's Israel that's committing the genocide.

The claim that Israel could kill every Palestinian quickly is true, but doesn't at all mean that what they *are* doing doesn't make the definition.

What Palestinians would do is entirely a matter of conjecture on your part. Of course under the circumstances you could be right, but that's not remarkable: clearly plenty of jews would like to kill all Palestinians, and they don't have anywhere near as much reason.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

You can read the actual definition here:

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide

I think you'll find the Gaza offensive does not qualify in the slightest (nor does the October 7 attack for that matter).

However, part of the palestinian agenda (from PLO to Hamas) has always been the abolition of the state of Israel and the extermination of the jews as a people. As such, it is much more correct to accuse Hamas et al of attempting genocide.

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"it's too late to change the rules now just because it's Israel that's committing the genocide."

There is no "genocide" and this is an evil lie.

None of these supposed "rules" take into account the idea that a state or territory could be run by a death cult that wants its own people (especially telegenic babies) to die, as this may be unprecedented and seems to be something that people either want to ignore or can't bear to look at honestly. And this goes double for Western liberals, who prefer to see Palestinians as helpless victims instead of agents of their own destruction, and who play word-games while never having to face existential threats.

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Jew-hatred, especially when one has a way to legitimize it to oneself, is a very tasty treat indeed.

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I see. It is not a word I would use in that circumstance myself.

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It's a notice so profoundly arousing that you will climax upon reading it.

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Media has ALWAYS been regime propaganda, we're just starting to realize it

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This is why I should read the comments before making my own. Exactly the case!!

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if you're going to babble about jew-hate on campus at this point you better link some good examples because all the ones I've seen have turned out to be total bullshit

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May 6·edited May 6Liked by eugyppius

Perhaps the establishment bureaucrats and politicians are right to fear for their own safety. Deep down they have to suspect how angry the public has become, and will become once more of their criminal incompetence is revealed.

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I am not sure this is the case. I suspect the opposite. I think they are astounded we are not all cheerleading economic destruction, deindustrialization and mass replacement of populations. They live in a bubble and never hear a dissenting view.

So when they do hear something we consider reasonable, like restrict immigration, they are horrified. They have a vision of a technocratic future. They will not tolerate anything that stops it happening.

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Only because in this technocratic future, they believe they will be well taken care of. I know a retired couple who worked in media. They are well educated and well-traveled, but are far left liberals, who regularly spurt out liberal tropes that they can't defend when questioned on them, yet they do this with an attitude of superiority. This makes them a bore to talk to on most subjects. The wife has been unfocussed and depressed lately because her ultra-wealthy ex-husband remarried and now has kids. She believes that their two daughters will now no longer get an inheritance as it will go to the new family. I said to her, "Your daughters are married with kids of their own, they and their husbands have good jobs. If it comes down to it, I'm sure they'll do fine without the money. The look I got in return was both shock and horror. She quickly changed the subject. It seemed her great fear was that her children and grandchildren would end up being middle class! Once the reality of no longer being in the elite hits them, they are shattered.

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good on the ex-husband. Maybe Family Number 2 will be more grounded in reality.

And you are correct. I have know a few rootless metropolitan types. Borderline Queers for Palestine in terms of their total lack of understanding how rare the first world is and how carefully it needs maintained. Alas they will discover the hard way.

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Unfortunately, the ex-husband is a complete elitist snob, so the new family will fare no better. The odd thing is that these people are not rootless metropolitan types, they are experienced world travelers. The husband is a writer who wrote, produced, and directed documentary films, often in third world countries. He knows they have it good in the US - he's told me. The couple's problem is that they were both liberal activists fighting the establishment in college in the 70's, but now they can't accept that they ARE the establishment and people are challenging their rule and dominance. Intellectually and emotionally, they never grew out of the 1970's, and they see Trump as some sort of Uber-Nixon reborn that they must oppose. However, they understand clearly (though they will deny it) that having money and being part of the elite protects them from the consequences of their own moral philosophy. They are terrified of losing their money and elite contacts (which happens when the money is gone) and having to live like the "deplorables".

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It is a fascinating dynamic. I'm eternally curious about how this class of people are and how they think they can escape the consequences.

The consequences of mass immigration alone will hit their children hard. Money won't mean anything in a Rhodesia type situation.

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Exactly right. They recently moved here to an exclusive gated community in Florida from Santa Monica, CA. I asked what brought them to Florida. They hesitated and really wouldn't tell me, finally coming up with the wife's daughter lives here. Yes, but she's a 4-hour drive away. Of course, they came here for the taxes, cost of living, and safety (Santa Monica now has an illegal immigrant and crime problem). Yet these people are pro-open borders, spouting every liberal argument. The only thing that got them out of their self-delusion was when I said that all the new illegals are getting resources meant for other poor minorities, and that soon the pissed-off black voters will abandon the Democrat party. I could see real fear and concern on their faces, and I say on their faces because throughout any discussion I could NEVER get either one of them to concede a point or explain their logic. It was always a weak, canned liberal response followed by a change of topic. Penetrating the ideological bubble proved exceedingly difficult. And these people consider themselves intellectuals.

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Hah!

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Tyranny always ends in violence.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Over a decade ago, swedish journalist Janne Josefsson lead a show called "Uppdrag: Granskning" (Mission: Investigation).

In a speech he gave about journalism college, he accidentally called it "communism college" instead, and when asked about the slip, he explaine dthat when he was there, he was the only journalist among over a hundred students that wasn't a communist or socialist of some kind.

Here comes the point pertinent to the post:

When he was host of the show, he wanted to do an investigation into political violence here in Sweden. According to EXPO (the suit&tie-front organisation for Antifa) and the press, white nationalists and neo-nazis were beating up leftist politicians every day, torching asylum centers and so on.

When he proposed it to the programming committee, making it clear he wanted to investigate /all/ political violence, they responded with: "Why do you want to investigate left-wing organisations? They're on /our/ side!". That's a direct quote from mr Josefssons interview.

The investigation confirmed what the State Secret Police alread had noted in their investigations since the late 1990s: 3/4 of all political violence was carried out by leftist groups or persons with such affiliations. The rest was an even split between moslems and animal rights activists. Actual, real, right-wing and neo-nazi violence was so rare it wasn't measurable, statistically speaking.

I have had zero doubts it is the same in Germany, not the least from my own days there, and also because swedish leftist groups have long-standing ties with their german Kameraden, dating back to the 1970s at least.

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it is very much the same in Germany. to take attacks on the Greens alone: in 2023, of 244 recorded incidents, 71 were by leftists, 46 by rightists (in the remaining cases the perpetrators had no clear political affiliation). these are attacks on the most obnoxious ridiculous leftist party, and *still* leftist attackers are the clear majority. now ask about political attacks on ordinary people (not politicians), on rightists, on whatever – leftists will be even more predominant.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Recently, a communist party function alleged to have been assaulted, in the afternoon, by masked neo-nazis. Since these neo-nazis were a) fully masked b) wore no emblems and c) shouted no slogans during the assault, it is amazing they knew it to be neo-nazis. One of the communists claimed to have needed to visit the ER, but report of that was filed, nor was any injuries visible.

But the most telling: the socialist grift-funded paper ETC published on their webpage news about the attack. At 0300 AM the same day it happened. Clairvoyance?

I've gone up against the real deal when it comes to neo-nazis. Real skinheads sporting swastika-tatoos. I've seen five such chase over five hundred various leftists.

If it had been a real attack by real neo-nazis, several of the communists would have needed hospitalisation and ICU care.

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For reference, the episode "The Good Violence" was later removed from the state television archives but is mirrored in various places such as here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0LZ7cvwCUg

The transcript & notes for the episode still remains on the state television site here, in Swedish but translatable:

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/ug-referens-3

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Thank you! I haven't owned a TV-set for ages, and I never go onto the state TV-site.

Still have to pay the ******* tax for the crap though.

As a side note, for non-swedes seeing this: our state media has /everything/ they ever transmitted or produced archived, but refuse to make the archives fully digital and fully searchable.

Wonder why.

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Don't forget, they also increased the payout to "the press" (mediestödet) shortly after making state media taxes obligatory. At the same time they also introduced stricter rules for who may receive the payout, basically limiting it to leftist media.

Not sure if things have changed much since, but looking at the payouts (https://mediemyndigheten.se/stod-till-medier/beviljade-stod/) it doesn't look like it.

"Mediets publicistiska verksamhet får heller inte väsentligt verka mot grundläggande demokratiska värderingar." - https://www.regeringen.se/pressmeddelanden/2023/06/regeringen-foreslar-ett-hallbart-mediestod-for-hela-landet/

Such objective rules they set!

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Thank you for taking the time to rejuvenate. I have recently exited Twitter permanently and focused my reading on certain substacks, including yours. For my personal well-being, I have strayed away from my laptop for 3-4 day periods to relieve myself of the continuous cycle of delusion our 'leaders' continue to bestow upon us. They dish out fear and hate to attempt to steal our peace and joy while they steal our money. These 3-4 day periods restore my peach/joy and provide me physical (blue light) breaks from the continuous lies that can drain one's soul.

May I leave you with some good cheer from the prophet Isaiah?

"No weapon formed against us shall prevail."

For those interested, a song of hope to strengthen your spirit. Thank you for your kind and thoughtful analysis, you help many of us, especially me. I am most grateful for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WdUIWfMDeU

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

typo alert:

peace/joy

not peach/joy

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I like peach/joy lol. Makes me think of T.S. Eliot--

... I grow old ... I grow old ...

I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?

I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.

I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

I do not think that they will sing to me.

I have seen them riding seaward on the waves

Combing the white hair of the waves blown back

When the wind blows the water white and black.

We have lingered in the chambers of the sea

By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown

Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/44212/the-love-song-of-j-alfred-prufrock

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Cynthia! Thank goodness I saw the email for your comment.

What a delightful poem, how joyful! You've inspired me to go get some printed poetry and relish it. I might try reading it at my local beach this summer (I'm in So Calif for a reason).

Do you have favorites you would recommend? Or could you put some recommendations on your Substack. It may be helpful to others if they want to build a little printed library for the upcoming tech censorship planned that may or may not happen, I call it being prudent.

They don't all have to be as whimsical as this brilliant poem but if you have more suggestions like this, you might help some folks (like me, for instance).

Thank you for sharing. Very kind of you, Peach.

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Peach! This website is amazing...a man reading me poetry! More inspiration! I think I may be able to convince my man of the benefits of him reading poetry to me. ;)

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I left "social media" for good in 2018. I immediately felt happier and more like myself. Good choice on your part.

Now, I get my news and analysis a la carte, from just a few intelligent sources that I trust.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Hmmm . . . it seems the intel agencies may have found a use for Guo after all.

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I've been waiting for your write-up on this since it hit the Daily Mail Online (surveillance state rating of The Best Bad Fairy: Conspiracist! Conspiracist!) and I knew you wouldn't fail me, and I knew the usual idiots of German governance wouldn't fail the stress test neither. Malevolent idiocy at full bore.

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Jörg Luyken of The German Review just wrote a column about this very thing today.

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Der Spiegel, which is the German equivalent of the Guardian or NYT, on Saturday blamed the attacks on “right-wing extremists and populists who portray democratic politicians as aloof elites, enemies of the people and traitors.”

Der Spiegel has since published at least a dozen articles on the subject of violence against politicians. None of the articles mention any attacks on politicians from the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

And

Meanwhile, a hundred politicians from the Bundestag signed a letter that called for an end to the “escalating violence against politically engaged people in public spaces.” The letter promised to “treat others with respect to ensure that the atmosphere does not become any more heated.”

AfD politicians were banned from signing the letter.

I wonder why

https://open.substack.com/pub/germanreview/p/what-a-brutal-attack-on-a-politician?r=8ahwm&utm_medium=ios

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

So the man responsible for attacking Ecke (Quentin) turned himself in to the police? And the police found “indications of right-wing extremist views” on his cellphone? Seems very suspicious to me. I would wager good money that this person is a left-winger who was set up to look like someone on the Right to allow the "authorities" to go after the Right. In other words, a plant or an agent. Very much like what happened on the US on Jan 6, 2021. That or he and his cohorts were coerced or were entrapped into doing this, by the left.

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there are many suspicious points in the case, including this one. then there's the fact that none of the offenders are in custody (all judged not to be flight risks somehow), weird inconsistencies about early witness statements, police initially saying there was no evidence of Quentin's political allegiances before reversing themselves and saying he appears to be a right-wing extremoid after all, the extremely limited information being leaked to the press in general, etc etc. hard to know what to make of this until more comes out.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Well, Eugyppius, do you think they would have kept it secret if they had any clear connection to AfD or another political organisation on the right?

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definitely not, which is why we are left to ponder what is really happening.

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May 7Liked by eugyppius

We’re they possibly from Tajikistan and paid by someone on Telegram?

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

“A humdrum current events post” …. I think not.

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That story reminds me of the recent 'OMG RACISM' here in America because one idiotic frat boy made monkey noises at a black woman. Democrats are screaming from the rooftops about racism -- yet they were completely silent when a white woman dressed up as a gorilla and threw eggs at potential California governor Larry Elder.

Same exact energy.

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May 6Liked by eugyppius

Straight out of the US Dems playbook, all this. Just accuse your opponents of that which you yourself are guilty of. How long it will be before the majority of Germans figure that out, who knows? When I was a yoof, many decades ago, the thought of actually protesting FOR the government was unbelievable… yet here we are, German jugend doing exactly that. There’s time until Herbst 2025… will sanity return to Germany? I’m not even sure it will.

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Without a free press, it will be doubly hard.

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Look out for the forthcoming “burning of the Reichstag”…. We’ve had the “Jan 6th insurrection” in the US, so it must be our turn here soon…. before the Bundeswahl in ‘25.

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The communist Red party in Norway is having a similar time of it these days. Some in their youth party called the prime minister of the Labor party "terrorist sympathizers" for not being adequately anti-Israel, and immediately the ruling class rolls out the denunciations, and the calls for the rolling of heads.

This is the same ruling class that has been calling the populist Progress party and their members/voters associates of right-wing terrorism through a tenuous connection to the July 22nd terrorist, whenever it suits them to do so.

TL;DR: It's only fine when we do it™

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To get a bit pedantic on the semantics of the German language banner pictured and to note the explanation (not mine!) repeatedly offered as to why it has been permitted under German law despite numerous complaints about incitement to hatred or calls for violent acts.

1. "Nazis töten." => "Nazis kill."

Strictly speaking, with a full stop, or period, it can more simply be read as "Nazis kill." Read in this way it has been considered by courts as a factual statement or warning like "Cancer kills." but about the murderous tendencies of the National Socialist German Workers Party of the Third Reich and its latter-day adherents.

2. "Nazis töten!" => "Kill Nazis!"

And, strictly speaking, with an exclamation mark, it can be read as an imperative statement, or call to, "Kill Nazis!"

However, as with many advertising slogans, terse emotive statements allow the reader to project or resonate with the slogan according to their priors regardless of punctuation - meaning both statements can simultaneously be understood by different readers. Anyway, #1 with exclamation mark could also be interpreted as a more emphatic statement of the first, i.e. "Nazis kill!" And, since imperative or instruction statements don't always come with exclamation marks, #1 could also be understood a "Kill Nazis."

Remember, in German the word order stays the same so, punctuation be damned, the terse wording remains ambiguous. That said, carrying a placard in a German city with a similar slogan featuring groups beloved of the establishment, e.g. "Grünen töten", "Israelis töten.", "Amerikaner töten.", "Kapitalisten töten." would definitely be risky - I have been sorely tempted provoke the virtue signalling leftists by doing so.

If the subject is a protected grouping, it's doubtful a missing exclamation would offer enough of a legal defence against incitement to hatred or violence (see previous posts from @Eugyppius about the Green party repeatedly prosecuting people who dared to irreverently criticise them in mock posters and slogans.) And, I guess that is the whole point of this post, in Germany we are seeing blatantly unequal application of the law, dependent on who the provocateur is and who the subject of criticism.

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yes, they cite one of the court decisions in their asterisked disclaimer. they are nevertheless pretty clearly Antifa and they know exactly what they're doing.

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"in Germany we are seeing blatantly unequal application of the law,"

Not just in Germany! Exactly the same "blatantly unequal" treatment seems endemic in 'western liberal democracies' around the world. Any given day, one can witness hundreds of examples of these perversions of justice in America, or Canada, the UK, or Australia.

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"Kill Nazis" and climate deniers or course, and vaccine deniers…

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May 7Liked by eugyppius

Down-thread, I posted link to UN definition of genocide, since some people in the West as well as Pallywood propaganda insist on misusing the term for the Israeli war of retaliation in Gaza.

This was the reply from one pro-Palestine poster:

"So I went and looked just in case everyone has been lying about it and... you're 100 percent full of shit. Given conduct plus public statements plus strategy papers out of Israel there's absolutely no doubt. It must be weird and stressful time to go through life constantly deluding yourself or lying your ass off"

Sadly, this is fairly typical of westerners of the pro-Palestine mindset. But why? All I did was point out that the legal definition isn't met in any way. I haven't posted the name of the person who responded in this way. If anyone is /that/ interested, you can just scroll down the thread until you find it. No need to sink to the level typical of such "people".

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