From the same guy that cut and pastes by rote a link to the old trope of "Concentration camps outside of Germany were just holiday camps "...
A simple google search would find you the photos of murders that you cannot be bothered finding...at the locations you think it never happened..
"..All photographs of heaps of corpses were taken in..Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, and Buchenwald..where historians now agree no mass murders took place."
Except historians dont..but hey..in with a pound of lies in with the lot..
"..It is very telling that the Soviets released no pictures of mass graves or heaps of corpses.."
Its very telling that someone can access the google and still lie.
And something like yourself cannot find access to a computer..
Search term under image search in google "soviet photos of concentration camp corpses"
The "article" used one supposed witness saying great things about Dachau...
But disregarded thousands of witnesses and guards who said the reverse..wow..
No doubt the Nuremberg trials never happened..and when the defendants were fighting for their lives, admitted their crimes but used the excuse "we had no choice we were just following orders"...they could have just argued "never happened" and demanded proof...but the majority never did that.
Wow..history and facts..
And for a final "laugh"...if I lock up a load of people and under feed them and over work them..and they die of illness and disease and fatigue...we would have creatures like yourself slither out dancing with glee going "but they never were murdered them"...
Its murder either way smiley..please dont post rubbish like this here..youre just embarrassing yourself and clearly have no clue..but don`t care....
Are you passing responsibility to the Ford, Rockerfeller organisations?
I wonder if you’ve considered the possibility of both malign influence from the US AND malign behaviour in Germany. There’s little doubt that was a mass formation, rather as there is today, with end effects if I may speculate, to be far worse than happened in Hitlers Germany.
I’m well aware of the deep background to the present day, and the parsimonious explanation appears to invoke many evil people , by no means restricted to one country.
All people need to vehemently push back against any type of mandate around Covid. It's all BS and the fact so many are still driving around alone in their cars wearing masks just confirms people really are stupid. Wake up. Nothing about Covid lockdowns, mandates or other "requirements" is based on public health. It's all about public control. Pray, plan, prepare and RESIST.
They seem to have been relying mostly on intimidation. They threaten to do something, like fire everyone who hasn't gotten jabbed, and then wait for people to panic and comply. Half the time they don't even pass a law, it's just media talking heads speculating about what might happen, and people comply pre-emptively.
My employer told us we had to get vaxxed. I ignored them. They then gave an extension. I continued ignoring them. Then another extension, with more ignoring. Then they dropped it. Later they suddenly brought it back. I waited until the last possible minute, quite deliberately, and sent in a sharply worded exemption request. It was approved within the hour.
Officially the organization has over 90% vaxx compliance. From talking to people, I know many didn't want to get it. If they'd simply done what I did - mostly passive resistance - the organization would have been forced to drop it. These shitweasels only have as much power as we let them have.
What was the basis of your exemption? IFor me I would say it was due to a pre-existing condition known as "critical-thinking" that prevented me from getting it.
a mandate is against Nuremberg, no informed consent is against Nuremberg, coercion is against Nuremberg. I want to know when the arrests and trials start.
The most important word here is *prepare*. All of this could have been avoided if we had rejected the initial "two week to flatten the curve" proposal. Covid succeeded because they persuaded basically good but unthinking people to go along with it.
When they try this again, we have to be uncompromising.
Not necessarily stupid. I can think of other reasons than stupidity why people drive around in their cars alone wearing masks.
• Laziness, they may make frequent stops and it's a hassle to constantly take off and put on masks.
• Fear of being reported. If they are a Lyft or Uber driver maybe they fear being reported.
• Sign of Worship at the alter of government and public health. There are true believers that would rather show their deference for government authority. It is a type of virtue signaling.
Sure was a strange coincidence that the 'private companies' of Uber and Lyft dropped their mask rules the same day the government did. I'm sure it was totally voluntary, though.
Yup. It’s still bonkers here, I live in a tourist town so we got em all: Young, old, fat, skinny, black, white…you name it. I would say HALF of these losers are still masking AND it’s hot/humid as hell!
Everyone has been so afraid of consequences from day one. The majority of the time, the govt was bluffing!
Here in the UK our lockdowns were not enforced. There were always legal loopholes allowing people to be out of the house and most police forces didn't even bother with trying to interpret the web of nonsensical rules devised by the govt.
And yet many people complied not because they believed in the rules but because they were terrified of being questioned by police. But what real authority did they have to determine whether you were out of the home for an essential reason or not? Why not take a chance anyway?
In the end, all of the legal cases brought against people for lockdown breaches were thrown out. The state decided not to prosecute a single one, knowing lockdown laws would not hold up in court.
my friend recently visited austria and said that there too the mandates were loosely, if at all, enforced. but that's very different from months ago when we saw video footage of people being herded and arrested, even beaten, in the streets. in australia (and china) your cell phone ratted you out of you got too far from home.
however, even if lock downs are not strictly enforced, if stores, theaters, restaurants, parks and churches all around you are closed, there isn't much reason for you to ever go out which makes a lock down without enforcement
Yes, I agree. The threat of enforcement and/or exclusion from society can enable a lockdown that is just as damaging and as real as one that is imposed by force.
My comment wasn't intended to imply that the UK lockdowns weren't authoritarian and immoral -- which they were. What I mean is that we the people always had far more power than we realised. Collective noncompliance can go a long way, especially in these situations where governments have pretended to have absolute power, when the truth is far from it.
that mask wearing really gets me upset . Some wear the Snot pouch when driving a car or a bike .how did they get a drivers licence ? Its amazing they learned how to'' reed and to rite '',enough to get a drivers licence ?They are on the side of the evil doers ,very far removed from the once who resist and follow common sense .The same goes for the so called ''Leaders '' when in front of a camera or microphone . The one preaching P.S. is not wearing it ,all the other lunatics standing around with snout pouches up to the eye balls .I would like to see them also wearing baby bibs and a plug in the ass .
People do *a lot* of things that seem inexplicable to me, and I've developed the ability to ignore them. Masks are just one more reason for a "whatever" in my internal dialog.
First get a camp stove and propane so you can boil water. I keep at least one case of dry ramen soups, a case of canned chicken or tuna, canned veggies. Canned chili with meat is also good. You can survive on that quite a while. (I live in earthquake country)
"It’s time to close those rifts again. Abolishing the mandate is another step out of crisis mode, towards normalisation. We must learn to live with Covid-19"
They will never close those rifts. We've seen them for who they are now. The fact they could even contemplate the mandate is what opened the rift. Dropping it now doesn't change our view of them.
I don't disagree. Both he and Johnson in the UK are trying their best. Unfortunately, they're either paid shills for the WEF or pathetic incompetents who should not wield any form of power over others.
Yes and it exposed the vast number who will turn a blind eye to those that would murder you and shovel your corpse into a ditch. As you say, a terrible awakening.
It’s interesting and fun to watch all these bastards try to get out in front of the tsunami of political backlash that is going to carry them to their well-deserved extinction.
The problem is that it was the "right" that pushed this nonsense in Austria and Germany. The socialists would have been worse, as you can see with the persistence in Germany. So where do people turn. AfD? That's what I would do.
The AfD are currently making themselves even more unelectable than they were, literally every single day. A party set up to specifically oppose this, DieBasis, which polled respectably close to 2% in the national election has disappeared, also largely up its own backside as it is run by a bunch of esoteric and other types with, er, questionable positions on various things.
There is no functional political opposition to covvunism in Germany.
I remain convinced that these parties get inundated by controlled opposition members. Did you ever notice that whenever a politician came close to being a darling in the CDU, they got capped at the knees? Remember zu Guttenberg? Got caught plagiarizing on his doctoral thesis? (I bet 70% of all politicians with a Dr did) .Merkel is much craftier than people realize- she’s a Pelosi style animal.
I was in Vienna last month. A very beautiful city, a kind of Germany but without all the trash. Hard to believe the most draconian injection mandate originated here. The professionals I met there shook their heads about “all those anti vaxxers causing problems”. But there was no fire in their statements.
They did. Even when the law was made, they were warned that it was unconstitutional etc. It wasn't populsr even then with the legislators, but afaik they thought withdrawing it would make them look weak.
same dynamic everywhere: legislators don't want to be too closely associated with stupid laws like this, but don't want to get blamed for a bunch of Corona deaths either
1) The discourse is still pretending that proper early treatment is ineffective. As "we" let them pretend that vaxxing is the only useful strategy, we concede the contest.
2) I offered a Loonie to anyone who could recall a politician or public "health" advisor recommending adequate Vitamin D supplementation. Two winners in two years, both refused the coin. One ER physician had possibly a hint.
3) CPSO & CPSBC and most others in Canada still (figuratively) burning physicians at the stake, or at least their licences, for undertaking proven early treatments.
4) For an English exercise, compare the meanings of the verbs "to mandate" and "to coerce" in current usage.
We had a conservative politician in the UK, MP David Davies, bringing up vitamin D supplementation in Parliament a couple times back in early 2021. He tried his best to champion it. Was it reported by the media? Did his own ruling party listen to him? No, and no.
"the law "isn't convincing anyone to accept vaccination,""
What were they thinking? Maybe should've studied the history of other communist regimes .... laws that don't make sense are fought back (one way or another). Tyranny will eventually fail
It's telling that he frames it that way. The original claim was that it was preventing disease. Nobody even pretends that anymore. Now they admit it's simple coercion. They'll never be able to admit that such coercion is also evil and illegal. They'll have to leave it to others to point that out.
We have a recent example of voluntary genocide remained unpunished: the tainted blood scandal. The major culprit in France was the minister of health who covered-up the scandal, Laurent Fabius. He became Prime minister and is now the head of the Conseil Constitutionnel. I don’t think anybody got convicted and sentenced in North America and in Europe (except a subordinate manager of a French blood transfusion center.
Remember we are talking about members of the same boys’club.
In Canada the Krever Inquiry (Royal Commission of Inquiry) never mentioned names of people who failed and were responsible for 8,000 deaths. It just blamed the Red Cross and the Canadian Blood Services but nobody got charged.
The thing is, even when the laws are obeyed (or half-obeyed), the consequence is a weakening of trust in institutions. You get people to do something ridiculous, but now they see you and yours as "those people whose purpose is to make life miserable for everyone." And so breaking your rules becomes a point of honor. So you get only half-way compliance, combined with lots of corruption, both when your rules make sense and when they don't. That eventually leads to collapse, though not necessarily immediately.
added update to clarify: the mandate has been 'suspended' twice already, so it's effectively already lifted. current suspension ends 31 August, instead of letting it go back into force they're going to retire the law entirely.
“… but what we have done, is increase the cost of their policies, make them look ridiculous, and develop a more compelling discourse about the pandemic, than the pandemicist experts themselves have ever been able to manage”.
Exactly this. Ultimately, I foresee our most effective approach is whatever raises the cost to the authorities of proceeding. While tripping them up, forcing errors, they’ll make themselves look incompetent & untrustworthy. Area under the curve of evil stupidity v time is going to erode any legitimacy & might just bring out enough waking up people to our side.
This is a great line. I always tell people asking about the vaccine status of others, to please get another booster immediately. It usually shuts them up.
…and they did not know that Smirnoff is owned by a UK corp. Diageo. Smirnoff left Russia during the Bolchevik Revolution more than 100 years ago. So that was another set of sanctions which did hurt several NATO countries but not Russia.
"Ridiculous" is the key word here. Our anger and resentment feed them; our laughter shrinks them. This is basic hard-wired biology as any woman who's ever dealt with a guy can testify.
100%. Making a mockery of their absurdities is how you destroy what's left of their credibility or authority. Despair or hopelessness is their most desired reaction.
“You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.” (great movie) Does this mean that Austria has pretended to be a member of NATO since 1955?
Well, brotherly love obviously hasn't been on the agenda much in the last two years, but I don't think we've had villains as grand as the Borgias...just measly little bureaucrats and politicians. What they all seem to agree on is that joining NATO is NOT what Austria wants - just 14% seem to be in favour of joining.
Yeah well, we did a good job on that, didnt we. In fact, Hitler became a naturalized citizen of Germany in1932, so thechnically speaking, everything he did when ge was in oower he fid as a German. Plus, he hated Austria for, well, being us, really.
Hitler was forced into situations and actions he did not plan doing .reading history written by some who where close to him brings me to that conclusion . To me it looks like Austrians where very happy when Hitler came to Vienna Austria to unite it with Germany .
So now the Anglophone countries are the worst on the planet. I don't even think China has a vaccine mandate. I think the US still has one for fed govt workers. In AU, NZ and CAN your life is extremely restricted if you don't comply and can't even leave the country. They also persist with requirements to enter the country.
I’m from Chinada and our abuser just “suspended” the illegal travel mandates for the unjabbed on June 20. BUT coming back into Chinada unjabbed must quarantine for 14 days. The Crime Minister himself allegedly triple jabbed just “caught” covid for the second time after his Californication visit with Gavin Newsom but is now in Rwanda spreading more dollars around with his mistress in tow. No quarantine for that pile of liquified feces. Face diapers still required on flights lol. People lining up for days to get a passport. Chinada circling the drain into a communist third world shi*t hole!
How unusual ...Along with the Uk sending asylum seekers to Rwanda.
Hmm should we conclude that they realise Ukraine is done as their money laundering /people smuggling /biolab hub so are setting up in Rwanda instead. How do we nip that in the bud?
He got it from Newsom? For real? It is remarkable how the OAS due to the vaccine is re-infecting these people within months or weeks. I just wish it was actually a deadly disease..... or that it's like a dengue where you are screwed the second time that you get it. In fact the dengue vaccine primes you, and is pretty much ineffective, so that the first time you get it then the outcome is much worse....
Your friend is right about the travel mandates to a certain degree. Yes, the unvaccinated can finally get on a plane in Canada but upon returning to this country they must quarantine for 14 days. So not quite falling apart. I also think the main reason the Federal Government did this is due to the airline and travel industry complaining. Not to show compassion for the unvaccinated.
" I also think the main reason the Federal Government did this is due to the airline and travel industry complaining. Not to show compassion for the unvaccinated."
Maybe but I think the PM is more vicious than you think. Since vaccinated travellers have been allowed to fly domestically and internationally Canadian airports have been a total mess (like in other countries but for different reasons). Trudeau wanted to make sure that non-vaccinated (the small fringe minority with racists and misogynistic views) would not squeeze into the lines of vaccinated. So control of vaccination status and scanning of QR codes created bottlenecks.
The majority of the MPs who voted for the vaccine mandate as well as their electorate who were vaccinated could not enjoy their privilege and had to be lined-up and checked even after being the good member of the vaccinated sheeple.
Of course nobody could blame the non-vaccinated for this mess because they were not allowed to travel.
So now, by allowing the non-vaccinated to travel (which are twice more than claimed by the government, close to 10 millions), will create more chaos in the airports and the storm troopers of the Covidian cult will have somebody to blame for this situation, the unvaxxed.
Just want to mention the AC flight from Montreal to London where 27 people were deplaned before leaving the gate; apparently for some unruly unmasked travellers.
Who wants to fly intercontinental with a diaper on his or her face with a bunch of vaccinated people shedding spike proteins all over and be in isolation on arrival?
we still have the quarantine for the pure blood with mandatory test during the 2 weeks (checked by public health officer). Also all travellers entering Canada have to upload a stupid ArriveCan application and report 72 hours before arriving at the border their vaccination status and certificate number with address of intended quarantine for the non-vaccinated and the vaccinated in case they are tested positive on arrival (random testing is done at all ports of entry whatever your status).
Interesting that I could not find anything in an English search about this except this blurb "Controversially, people over the age of 50 who work in the public sector were bound by a vaccination mandate but this has been lifted." in an article on April 30 about the start of removal of corona restrictions. I thought it was a universal mandate with a small fine and also prohibited private workplace presence for unvaccinated over 50s?
As I understand it, the law was set to expire on 15 June anyway, and they simply didn't renew it. Indeed it was the general rule you describe. Now a limited version remains in place that applies only to healthcare personnel.
I talked to a couple of Austrian friends yesterday; mostly they think (and I think) that the health minister (who inherited this s*t show from his predecessor, who was responsible for starting the vax mandate) realized that due to vaccine damage it might be legally problematic to have a general vax mandate (apart from it being unconstitutional, of course). Still, they might want to get people to get the vaccine, so my friends think the elegant way of forcing people in a more roundabout way would be reimplementing 2G rules.
I hope you are right, Eugyppius, and they will just let go. I think the current wave is crucial. "Numbers" have been rising for 3 weeks now and, if Portugal is anything to go by, will be peaking in 1-2 weeks' time. IF they manage to sit on their hands and wait for the wave to pass without implementing measures, and nothing much happens, this will set an important precedent. They will be able to point at the Horrible Summer Wave of 22 and explain that we did fine without measures. But if they blink now and implement measures now (Austrian specialty: lock down at the peak of a wave and see the numbers fall), they're more likely to do it in winter.
Do go to Austria when all this madness has passed. It's such a beautiful country; if you like Bavaria, you'll like it there.
I remain a bit more cynical. I fear as the cold with Fall and Winter sets in again, the bureaucrats (Beamtinnen) grow restless and power hungry again... It's almost like we need sunlight (Summer/Spring) to get the transparency we need with these people.
“it wasn’t our idea here in Vienna, we just went along with it.”
What courage!
That's what his ancestor, who worked at Dachau also said in 1946.......
"Just following orders"
And it didn't save his neck either.
Oh look..a nazi in the thread..
From the same guy that cut and pastes by rote a link to the old trope of "Concentration camps outside of Germany were just holiday camps "...
A simple google search would find you the photos of murders that you cannot be bothered finding...at the locations you think it never happened..
"..All photographs of heaps of corpses were taken in..Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, and Buchenwald..where historians now agree no mass murders took place."
Except historians dont..but hey..in with a pound of lies in with the lot..
"..It is very telling that the Soviets released no pictures of mass graves or heaps of corpses.."
Its very telling that someone can access the google and still lie.
And something like yourself cannot find access to a computer..
Search term under image search in google "soviet photos of concentration camp corpses"
The "article" used one supposed witness saying great things about Dachau...
But disregarded thousands of witnesses and guards who said the reverse..wow..
No doubt the Nuremberg trials never happened..and when the defendants were fighting for their lives, admitted their crimes but used the excuse "we had no choice we were just following orders"...they could have just argued "never happened" and demanded proof...but the majority never did that.
Wow..history and facts..
And for a final "laugh"...if I lock up a load of people and under feed them and over work them..and they die of illness and disease and fatigue...we would have creatures like yourself slither out dancing with glee going "but they never were murdered them"...
Its murder either way smiley..please dont post rubbish like this here..youre just embarrassing yourself and clearly have no clue..but don`t care....
Are you passing responsibility to the Ford, Rockerfeller organisations?
I wonder if you’ve considered the possibility of both malign influence from the US AND malign behaviour in Germany. There’s little doubt that was a mass formation, rather as there is today, with end effects if I may speculate, to be far worse than happened in Hitlers Germany.
I’m well aware of the deep background to the present day, and the parsimonious explanation appears to invoke many evil people , by no means restricted to one country.
the SPÖ (his party) is also in the opposition, so he's saying this is their L not his. but, it's also not a good look.
Just following orders? Where did I hear that before?
This is why I always say hey are 'leaders'.
Sounds like "Wir haben es nicht gewust".
Another type of anschluss
you'd think austrians were have a better historical understanding of what that means
Another, in the very long line of spinelessEuroCrats....
All people need to vehemently push back against any type of mandate around Covid. It's all BS and the fact so many are still driving around alone in their cars wearing masks just confirms people really are stupid. Wake up. Nothing about Covid lockdowns, mandates or other "requirements" is based on public health. It's all about public control. Pray, plan, prepare and RESIST.
They seem to have been relying mostly on intimidation. They threaten to do something, like fire everyone who hasn't gotten jabbed, and then wait for people to panic and comply. Half the time they don't even pass a law, it's just media talking heads speculating about what might happen, and people comply pre-emptively.
My employer told us we had to get vaxxed. I ignored them. They then gave an extension. I continued ignoring them. Then another extension, with more ignoring. Then they dropped it. Later they suddenly brought it back. I waited until the last possible minute, quite deliberately, and sent in a sharply worded exemption request. It was approved within the hour.
Officially the organization has over 90% vaxx compliance. From talking to people, I know many didn't want to get it. If they'd simply done what I did - mostly passive resistance - the organization would have been forced to drop it. These shitweasels only have as much power as we let them have.
What was the basis of your exemption? IFor me I would say it was due to a pre-existing condition known as "critical-thinking" that prevented me from getting it.
It was a religious exemption, worded in such a way as to preempt any attempt HR might have tried to argue with it.
Shitweasels ... I'm gonna borrow that one. :)
Since they are so numerous, they won't notice if you borrow only one.
a mandate is against Nuremberg, no informed consent is against Nuremberg, coercion is against Nuremberg. I want to know when the arrests and trials start.
Will "shitweasels" replace "asshats?" I vote YES. 🤣
I had a similar outlook without the Shitweasle part.
I call them.... Fucktards.
A good many who masked up did it to "get along to move along." It's great to hear a lot are voicing their opinion.
The most important word here is *prepare*. All of this could have been avoided if we had rejected the initial "two week to flatten the curve" proposal. Covid succeeded because they persuaded basically good but unthinking people to go along with it.
When they try this again, we have to be uncompromising.
Not necessarily stupid. I can think of other reasons than stupidity why people drive around in their cars alone wearing masks.
• Laziness, they may make frequent stops and it's a hassle to constantly take off and put on masks.
• Fear of being reported. If they are a Lyft or Uber driver maybe they fear being reported.
• Sign of Worship at the alter of government and public health. There are true believers that would rather show their deference for government authority. It is a type of virtue signaling.
Sure was a strange coincidence that the 'private companies' of Uber and Lyft dropped their mask rules the same day the government did. I'm sure it was totally voluntary, though.
I think a bunch of them are still afraid. I walk every fine day at a little park, always see someone wearing one outside
Yup. It’s still bonkers here, I live in a tourist town so we got em all: Young, old, fat, skinny, black, white…you name it. I would say HALF of these losers are still masking AND it’s hot/humid as hell!
at some point, you gotta wonder how much oxygen deprivation they are suffering
And why do you think worship at the altar of government and public health is not stupid?
not just around covid, but around anything! monkeypox and whatever the next disease that Fauci & company are cooking up in their labs
moneypox
Everyone has been so afraid of consequences from day one. The majority of the time, the govt was bluffing!
Here in the UK our lockdowns were not enforced. There were always legal loopholes allowing people to be out of the house and most police forces didn't even bother with trying to interpret the web of nonsensical rules devised by the govt.
And yet many people complied not because they believed in the rules but because they were terrified of being questioned by police. But what real authority did they have to determine whether you were out of the home for an essential reason or not? Why not take a chance anyway?
In the end, all of the legal cases brought against people for lockdown breaches were thrown out. The state decided not to prosecute a single one, knowing lockdown laws would not hold up in court.
my friend recently visited austria and said that there too the mandates were loosely, if at all, enforced. but that's very different from months ago when we saw video footage of people being herded and arrested, even beaten, in the streets. in australia (and china) your cell phone ratted you out of you got too far from home.
however, even if lock downs are not strictly enforced, if stores, theaters, restaurants, parks and churches all around you are closed, there isn't much reason for you to ever go out which makes a lock down without enforcement
Yes, I agree. The threat of enforcement and/or exclusion from society can enable a lockdown that is just as damaging and as real as one that is imposed by force.
My comment wasn't intended to imply that the UK lockdowns weren't authoritarian and immoral -- which they were. What I mean is that we the people always had far more power than we realised. Collective noncompliance can go a long way, especially in these situations where governments have pretended to have absolute power, when the truth is far from it.
that mask wearing really gets me upset . Some wear the Snot pouch when driving a car or a bike .how did they get a drivers licence ? Its amazing they learned how to'' reed and to rite '',enough to get a drivers licence ?They are on the side of the evil doers ,very far removed from the once who resist and follow common sense .The same goes for the so called ''Leaders '' when in front of a camera or microphone . The one preaching P.S. is not wearing it ,all the other lunatics standing around with snout pouches up to the eye balls .I would like to see them also wearing baby bibs and a plug in the ass .
People do *a lot* of things that seem inexplicable to me, and I've developed the ability to ignore them. Masks are just one more reason for a "whatever" in my internal dialog.
Amen!!!
First get a camp stove and propane so you can boil water. I keep at least one case of dry ramen soups, a case of canned chicken or tuna, canned veggies. Canned chili with meat is also good. You can survive on that quite a while. (I live in earthquake country)
Ability to boil water is crucial- for water sanitation and cooking. Stock up on propane canisters.
Start taking ownership of your food supply. Planting a vegetable garden is a good first step.
Yes, and a garden can't yield a good old cheeseburger, unfortunately. ;)
Don't worry, everything will be OK.
"It’s time to close those rifts again. Abolishing the mandate is another step out of crisis mode, towards normalisation. We must learn to live with Covid-19"
They will never close those rifts. We've seen them for who they are now. The fact they could even contemplate the mandate is what opened the rift. Dropping it now doesn't change our view of them.
Yeah I’m in Canada and it’s broken the social contract for me. I think they’re bastards.
trudeau is genuinely trying his best. he got covid 3 or 4 times himself yet continues to lead ...
this is a pandemic and as president trump declared mRNA vaxx saved millions of lives ...
I don't disagree. Both he and Johnson in the UK are trying their best. Unfortunately, they're either paid shills for the WEF or pathetic incompetents who should not wield any form of power over others.
It exposed those who would absolutely murder you and shovel your corpse into a ditch when directed by the priests of $©ience. Many were family and friends. A terrible awakening we can never forget.
Yes and it exposed the vast number who will turn a blind eye to those that would murder you and shovel your corpse into a ditch. As you say, a terrible awakening.
i've had to re-evaluate all my old friendships. i don't think many will survive
Many of mine were lukewarm anyway. The amusing part is, they think they need to forgive me, rather than the other way around.
The red pill is very, very bitter.
Yeah I'm not going to suddenly forget what all the Good Germans did the last couple years.
It’s interesting and fun to watch all these bastards try to get out in front of the tsunami of political backlash that is going to carry them to their well-deserved extinction.
I'd put more faith in the genetic therapy helping them with that than in the political backlash.
Well, you do you. It’s a glass-half-full day for me today and I’m just gonna go with it.
The problem is that it was the "right" that pushed this nonsense in Austria and Germany. The socialists would have been worse, as you can see with the persistence in Germany. So where do people turn. AfD? That's what I would do.
The AfD are currently making themselves even more unelectable than they were, literally every single day. A party set up to specifically oppose this, DieBasis, which polled respectably close to 2% in the national election has disappeared, also largely up its own backside as it is run by a bunch of esoteric and other types with, er, questionable positions on various things.
There is no functional political opposition to covvunism in Germany.
I remain convinced that these parties get inundated by controlled opposition members. Did you ever notice that whenever a politician came close to being a darling in the CDU, they got capped at the knees? Remember zu Guttenberg? Got caught plagiarizing on his doctoral thesis? (I bet 70% of all politicians with a Dr did) .Merkel is much craftier than people realize- she’s a Pelosi style animal.
I was in Vienna last month. A very beautiful city, a kind of Germany but without all the trash. Hard to believe the most draconian injection mandate originated here. The professionals I met there shook their heads about “all those anti vaxxers causing problems”. But there was no fire in their statements.
just like the US.
People still blame Trump for not mandating masks.... smh
"But there was no fire in their statements."
There was no logic in their statements either.
All foreseeable. Why didn’t these clowns foresee?
They did. Even when the law was made, they were warned that it was unconstitutional etc. It wasn't populsr even then with the legislators, but afaik they thought withdrawing it would make them look weak.
same dynamic everywhere: legislators don't want to be too closely associated with stupid laws like this, but don't want to get blamed for a bunch of Corona deaths either
so many many disasters connected to this plandemic.
Every day I hear more and more horrible stories of tragedies, torn apart families,
personal questioning, and plenty of misunderstanding information, trusting lies.
It is a catastrophic destruction of humanity on so many levels
Catastrophic destruction was the point.
My same comment as yesterday.
1) The discourse is still pretending that proper early treatment is ineffective. As "we" let them pretend that vaxxing is the only useful strategy, we concede the contest.
2) I offered a Loonie to anyone who could recall a politician or public "health" advisor recommending adequate Vitamin D supplementation. Two winners in two years, both refused the coin. One ER physician had possibly a hint.
3) CPSO & CPSBC and most others in Canada still (figuratively) burning physicians at the stake, or at least their licences, for undertaking proven early treatments.
4) For an English exercise, compare the meanings of the verbs "to mandate" and "to coerce" in current usage.
We had a conservative politician in the UK, MP David Davies, bringing up vitamin D supplementation in Parliament a couple times back in early 2021. He tried his best to champion it. Was it reported by the media? Did his own ruling party listen to him? No, and no.
Yet by not withdrawing it's going to pile a heap of s**t on them, as it is all down to them and no one else.
It's like inflation in the US. No economists could have predicted it!
The purpose of economics to make astrology look good in comparison.
And the purpose of public health is ... any suggestions, anyone?
The purpose of public health is to make snake oil peddlers look good in comparison.
Indeed they were sure it wouldn’t happen just as they are now sure a recession is not inevitable.
OK it might be inevitable, but it won't be that bad.......
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/ok-its-happening-but-thats-a-good-5a6
"the law "isn't convincing anyone to accept vaccination,""
What were they thinking? Maybe should've studied the history of other communist regimes .... laws that don't make sense are fought back (one way or another). Tyranny will eventually fail
It's telling that he frames it that way. The original claim was that it was preventing disease. Nobody even pretends that anymore. Now they admit it's simple coercion. They'll never be able to admit that such coercion is also evil and illegal. They'll have to leave it to others to point that out.
I hope there will be consequences for the crime against the humanity these bureaucrats committed
Same here. This won't stop unless there are conspicuous prosecutions.
honestly, I do not imagine in my wildest imaginings... any one being punished. Just the masses. We are always punished
We have a recent example of voluntary genocide remained unpunished: the tainted blood scandal. The major culprit in France was the minister of health who covered-up the scandal, Laurent Fabius. He became Prime minister and is now the head of the Conseil Constitutionnel. I don’t think anybody got convicted and sentenced in North America and in Europe (except a subordinate manager of a French blood transfusion center.
Remember we are talking about members of the same boys’club.
In Canada the Krever Inquiry (Royal Commission of Inquiry) never mentioned names of people who failed and were responsible for 8,000 deaths. It just blamed the Red Cross and the Canadian Blood Services but nobody got charged.
Agree, but I hope they still live in fear of the angry masses. Especially once infants start dying.
You're right, the odds are very slim.
Dem lawmakers in the US still claim it stops transmission and are planning school mandates in some states.
The thing is, even when the laws are obeyed (or half-obeyed), the consequence is a weakening of trust in institutions. You get people to do something ridiculous, but now they see you and yours as "those people whose purpose is to make life miserable for everyone." And so breaking your rules becomes a point of honor. So you get only half-way compliance, combined with lots of corruption, both when your rules make sense and when they don't. That eventually leads to collapse, though not necessarily immediately.
That's why communism failed in Eastern Europe (it took 45 years but the outcome was predetermined)
Why not lift them immediately?
added update to clarify: the mandate has been 'suspended' twice already, so it's effectively already lifted. current suspension ends 31 August, instead of letting it go back into force they're going to retire the law entirely.
Every country that abolishes mandates makes it easier for other countries to follow suit. Here’s looking at you, Canada.
They are going to be the last (and Biden is helping them by still requiring the vax for tourists to enter the US!)
“… but what we have done, is increase the cost of their policies, make them look ridiculous, and develop a more compelling discourse about the pandemic, than the pandemicist experts themselves have ever been able to manage”.
Exactly this. Ultimately, I foresee our most effective approach is whatever raises the cost to the authorities of proceeding. While tripping them up, forcing errors, they’ll make themselves look incompetent & untrustworthy. Area under the curve of evil stupidity v time is going to erode any legitimacy & might just bring out enough waking up people to our side.
Last line is a winner Dr. Mike.
this is excellent
My cousin Roland lives in Vienna. He and his girlfriend and her daughter were all totally red pilled.
We email each other because he is a sweet guy. ... but totally washed.
I am so happy to see this observance of freedom and truth for Österreich
I hope all of the people running this are up to date with their boosters.
This is a great line. I always tell people asking about the vaccine status of others, to please get another booster immediately. It usually shuts them up.
Every time I go to the liquor store I get a fresh booster . Just in time I remember to take another gulp from my Schnaps booster bottle
I wonder if I buy another bottle of Russian vodka in the back alley black market ,could I be arrested for trading with the enemy ?
In case you are worried about me now .I don't drink
They were pouring Smirnoff down the drain at the beginning of the war- that was your chance :)
…and they did not know that Smirnoff is owned by a UK corp. Diageo. Smirnoff left Russia during the Bolchevik Revolution more than 100 years ago. So that was another set of sanctions which did hurt several NATO countries but not Russia.
Please please tell me where that drain is located .
Zum Wohl!
Danke schoen
"Ridiculous" is the key word here. Our anger and resentment feed them; our laughter shrinks them. This is basic hard-wired biology as any woman who's ever dealt with a guy can testify.
100%. Making a mockery of their absurdities is how you destroy what's left of their credibility or authority. Despair or hopelessness is their most desired reaction.
"Does anyone here know what Austria is most famous for? I do hope there are Austrians here to be offended by this...
...for trying to convince the world that Hitler was really German and Beethoven was Viennese."
— Christopher Hitchens
“You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.” (great movie) Does this mean that Austria has pretended to be a member of NATO since 1955?
Well, brotherly love obviously hasn't been on the agenda much in the last two years, but I don't think we've had villains as grand as the Borgias...just measly little bureaucrats and politicians. What they all seem to agree on is that joining NATO is NOT what Austria wants - just 14% seem to be in favour of joining.
and I always thought it is the Strudel
Yeah well, we did a good job on that, didnt we. In fact, Hitler became a naturalized citizen of Germany in1932, so thechnically speaking, everything he did when ge was in oower he fid as a German. Plus, he hated Austria for, well, being us, really.
Hitler was forced into situations and actions he did not plan doing .reading history written by some who where close to him brings me to that conclusion . To me it looks like Austrians where very happy when Hitler came to Vienna Austria to unite it with Germany .
Still working hard at it.
Sure. The Germans naturalized Hitler, he's theirs now. :-) And Beethoven was an Austrian at least in spirit. :-)
Does the third Corona Axis member, Italy, still have its absurd mandate for 50 and above?
the general 50+ mandate has been retired since 15 June
So now the Anglophone countries are the worst on the planet. I don't even think China has a vaccine mandate. I think the US still has one for fed govt workers. In AU, NZ and CAN your life is extremely restricted if you don't comply and can't even leave the country. They also persist with requirements to enter the country.
I’m from Chinada and our abuser just “suspended” the illegal travel mandates for the unjabbed on June 20. BUT coming back into Chinada unjabbed must quarantine for 14 days. The Crime Minister himself allegedly triple jabbed just “caught” covid for the second time after his Californication visit with Gavin Newsom but is now in Rwanda spreading more dollars around with his mistress in tow. No quarantine for that pile of liquified feces. Face diapers still required on flights lol. People lining up for days to get a passport. Chinada circling the drain into a communist third world shi*t hole!
How unusual ...Along with the Uk sending asylum seekers to Rwanda.
Hmm should we conclude that they realise Ukraine is done as their money laundering /people smuggling /biolab hub so are setting up in Rwanda instead. How do we nip that in the bud?
He got it from Newsom? For real? It is remarkable how the OAS due to the vaccine is re-infecting these people within months or weeks. I just wish it was actually a deadly disease..... or that it's like a dengue where you are screwed the second time that you get it. In fact the dengue vaccine primes you, and is pretty much ineffective, so that the first time you get it then the outcome is much worse....
More than any other politician or celebrity, I hope Trudeau's boosters are genuine.
I believe the Canadian travel mandates/prohibition policies have fallen apart too, I heard it from a Canadian friend only yesterday.
Your friend is right about the travel mandates to a certain degree. Yes, the unvaccinated can finally get on a plane in Canada but upon returning to this country they must quarantine for 14 days. So not quite falling apart. I also think the main reason the Federal Government did this is due to the airline and travel industry complaining. Not to show compassion for the unvaccinated.
" I also think the main reason the Federal Government did this is due to the airline and travel industry complaining. Not to show compassion for the unvaccinated."
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Totally agree with this.
Maybe but I think the PM is more vicious than you think. Since vaccinated travellers have been allowed to fly domestically and internationally Canadian airports have been a total mess (like in other countries but for different reasons). Trudeau wanted to make sure that non-vaccinated (the small fringe minority with racists and misogynistic views) would not squeeze into the lines of vaccinated. So control of vaccination status and scanning of QR codes created bottlenecks.
The majority of the MPs who voted for the vaccine mandate as well as their electorate who were vaccinated could not enjoy their privilege and had to be lined-up and checked even after being the good member of the vaccinated sheeple.
Of course nobody could blame the non-vaccinated for this mess because they were not allowed to travel.
So now, by allowing the non-vaccinated to travel (which are twice more than claimed by the government, close to 10 millions), will create more chaos in the airports and the storm troopers of the Covidian cult will have somebody to blame for this situation, the unvaxxed.
Just want to mention the AC flight from Montreal to London where 27 people were deplaned before leaving the gate; apparently for some unruly unmasked travellers.
Who wants to fly intercontinental with a diaper on his or her face with a bunch of vaccinated people shedding spike proteins all over and be in isolation on arrival?
I actually don't think there are any exceptions for tourists entering the US yet. The coercion continues.
we still have the quarantine for the pure blood with mandatory test during the 2 weeks (checked by public health officer). Also all travellers entering Canada have to upload a stupid ArriveCan application and report 72 hours before arriving at the border their vaccination status and certificate number with address of intended quarantine for the non-vaccinated and the vaccinated in case they are tested positive on arrival (random testing is done at all ports of entry whatever your status).
Nothing in England itself, though.
The majority of people are behaving as if it's 2019 again.
Unfortunately the 2020 'police state' legislation which allowed lockdowns was suspended, not repealed.
Interesting that I could not find anything in an English search about this except this blurb "Controversially, people over the age of 50 who work in the public sector were bound by a vaccination mandate but this has been lifted." in an article on April 30 about the start of removal of corona restrictions. I thought it was a universal mandate with a small fine and also prohibited private workplace presence for unvaccinated over 50s?
As I understand it, the law was set to expire on 15 June anyway, and they simply didn't renew it. Indeed it was the general rule you describe. Now a limited version remains in place that applies only to healthcare personnel.
As an Austrian, I am so happy. I am afraid they will still resort to G2 rules, but this is an important step.
I don't know if that 2G/3G nonsense comes back. Rauch is talking mostly about the need to return to mask mandates if cases get bad.
I talked to a couple of Austrian friends yesterday; mostly they think (and I think) that the health minister (who inherited this s*t show from his predecessor, who was responsible for starting the vax mandate) realized that due to vaccine damage it might be legally problematic to have a general vax mandate (apart from it being unconstitutional, of course). Still, they might want to get people to get the vaccine, so my friends think the elegant way of forcing people in a more roundabout way would be reimplementing 2G rules.
I hope you are right, Eugyppius, and they will just let go. I think the current wave is crucial. "Numbers" have been rising for 3 weeks now and, if Portugal is anything to go by, will be peaking in 1-2 weeks' time. IF they manage to sit on their hands and wait for the wave to pass without implementing measures, and nothing much happens, this will set an important precedent. They will be able to point at the Horrible Summer Wave of 22 and explain that we did fine without measures. But if they blink now and implement measures now (Austrian specialty: lock down at the peak of a wave and see the numbers fall), they're more likely to do it in winter.
Do go to Austria when all this madness has passed. It's such a beautiful country; if you like Bavaria, you'll like it there.
I remain a bit more cynical. I fear as the cold with Fall and Winter sets in again, the bureaucrats (Beamtinnen) grow restless and power hungry again... It's almost like we need sunlight (Summer/Spring) to get the transparency we need with these people.