Biden admin & WHO finally realise nobody cares anymore, fold up last vestiges of the Covid circus; Polish health minister denounces Pfizer vax profiteering, amazingly asks if it is "only about money"
Biden admin & WHO finally realise nobody cares anymore, fold up last vestiges of the Covid circus; Polish health minister denounces Pfizer vax profiteering, amazingly asks if it is "only about money"
The Biden Administration have announced that their insane vaccine requirements for government employees and international travellers will finally end on 11 May, when the American pandemic state of emergency expires. The WHO have likewise declared that Covid-19 “
And in the small country of Slovenia the courts have decided that all issued covid fines were unconstitutional (no shit) and the State has to pay them back.
The authorities took more than salaries or a business owners dreams; they issued the equivalent of a death sentence to their fellow man/woman by excluding them from society. In other words a sentence of DESPAIR.
I wonder if any of these people who try to apologize could explain what they should really be apologizing for?
I mean what "means" test would you use to determine a "basis" for recompense for despair?
And not only that but why are they not being forced (if necessary) to clean up the mess they made? Which will take years by the way. And some of the scars will be permanent.
Yes, it will be all paid back by the sound of it. Some more details (via google translate of Slovenian news):
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...The draft law comprehensively regulates the area of payment of the amount of fines, costs of misdemeanor proceedings, forced recovery proceedings and forfeited property benefits in relation to misdemeanor proceedings conducted for misdemeanors committed between March 7, 2020 and May 30, 2022, as a violation of measures to prevent spread of the infectious disease covid-19.
The regulation is based on an analysis of the legal bases that were used in misdemeanor proceedings against individuals for violations of measures against the viral disease covid-19, and the starting points for the preparation of normative solutions adopted by the government at the meeting on November 24, 2022. In doing so, they pursue the goal, that fines, procedural costs, forced recovery procedures and forfeited property benefits are paid out as automatically as possible and with as little burden as possible for the beneficiaries.
... From the beginning of the epidemic until May 31, 2022, more than 62,000 misdemeanor proceedings were initiated and fines of more than 5.5 million euros were imposed due to the violation of covid rules. Of this, 1.7 million euros of fines, or about 30 percent, were paid voluntarily, while the rest went to forced recovery. "This amount, i.e. 1.7 million euros, is the real amount of compensation, or the financial consequence for the state," explained the Minister of Justice."
Because they know they will not be held accountable and that our legal system or justice system will never come after them. Knowing this, they act accordingly.
Once a court rules that the EU lacked authority to deprive citizens of the right to seek compensation for side effects, we may find that Pfizer becomes rather less keen to supply the remaining doses.
That’s one of the reasons why the company has already separated it’s other money-making product line sub businesses from it’s vaccine business. Suit insurance.
Courts in the US have the authority to "pierce the veil" of corporate entities in cases of serious misconduct in order to reach the financial assets of shareholders, officers and directors. The personal injury bar already smells blood in the water.
Having read Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe recently I'm not convinced they will get close to what Pfizer should be paying out over these vaccines. The drug companies hire the best lawyers out there who know all the loopholes of the law sadly.
All those fines have long been used up ,by luxurious living habits of politicians .If anything gets paid back it's with money collected as tax ,from the same victims .
They like to use your tax money, take care of the politicians and their friend, and then want to be celebrated as heroes for giving back half the value of the taxes to the tax payers. What a scam. Mostly a scam.
Well, in south africa cleptocracy is here to stay and our govvy will just not pay, ha ha. These pfizer pharma criminals are not the only criminals, our gov is unbeatable.
At least South Africa is a country in which the fact of governmental corruption is acknowledged. In New Zealand there is a fiction maintained by the politicians and public service that corruption does not exist here. It does not exist, so anyone complaining of it must be either deluded or seditious.
Weird, maybe easier to hide their corruption when you don't have the level of unemployment and poverty we have. We gave for the last 2 years + load shedding in our electricity supply, on average we get 14 hours or less electricity per day, because of state capture. The corruption is visible in the form of potholes in the roads, cholera where the drinking water is bad, less waste removal in bigger cities, tremendous job losses due to load shedding etc. You can't hide these things...and crime is skyhigh.
It takes different forms. You can't get out of a speeding fine by slipping the policeman a $50 note in NZ, but there are dangerously undermaintained roads and railway lines. The most egregious (but uninvestigated despite a complaint) was the massive overuse of PCR covid testing. The testing oligopoly delayed entry of rapid antigen testing (equally pointless, but a threat to the profits of the laboratories) to NZ by something like a year, even getting the government to make personal importation of a RAT test a criminal offense punishable by up to three months imprisonment.
How far such previously respected countries like NZ & OZ & Canada have sunk....how is it possible to avoid at least the suspicion of a worldwide conspiracy of the oligarchs to assume global control?
I have a family friend living in Australia for the last 15 years. It seems that all communication came to an end, meaning she does'nt talk about the totalitarian shift in politics or covid related stuff (scam etc), only chit chat. I am so sorry for the common wealth "nations" countries, because it seems that those are the countries that were the most propagandized nations. We will probably get there in our now third world country (we used to be almost first world country), but it will take longer.
Amazing and Miraculous!!!! Hats off to the government of Slovenia! If only all governments would follow this example of “doing what is right.” Sadly here in AB Canada the court prosecutors are still out for blood and are firmly committed to “making examples of every single person who was charged with a covid fine.”
In Romania too, with the difference that here many fines were issued, but few people were scared enough to pay them, so the Government isn't binded to pay something back...
I played a concert in Ljubljana many years ago. Amazing, beautiful place. Kudos to you and your people, I can only hope that there's some sort of justice over here in the New World.
Slovenia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Poland seem to have the best and most intelligent leaders in the West. It makes me wonder how long it will be before the CIA and NATO declare war on them.
As a Slovenian, I cannot say that we have the best and most intelligent leaders. They are no different than any other, however, people are different. Even though we mostly keep our heads down and take the beating, we still don't trust the authority and simply don't comply without much fuss.
Unfortunately, this rebelious spirit is slowly disappearing. It's frowned upon a lot and politicians and media never miss an opportunity to make a mockery out of it. I wonder how much longer until we are like for example Germans that also keep their heads down and take the beating but also comply.
Their experience with communism made them permanently suspicious of government authority. To them the UN and NATO are merely softer versions of the same tyranny.
Pfizer exists to make money, and is therefore behaving rationally. My issue is with panicky politicians falling all over themselves, agreeing to contracts so stupid that it boggles the mind.
It is highly likely that the politicians involved in negotiating these contracts were “incentivized” to purchase excessive amounts of doses--you know, “10% for the big guy.”
The unelected, unaccountable, bureaucrats gave them the immunity. The bureaucrats who came from their own ranks, and used the pandemic to seize power from our corrupt (but still somewhat accountable) politicians.
That's why fascism fails. The corporations that are the parasites on a nation end up wanting more and more hush money. Governments give it away, but in these hard economic times, some governments are like WTF it's over, why are you aholes still trying to milk this scam?
Not meant as disrespect, Because they can get away with it? I’m guessing they have enough to blackmail many, many people in power. These people are afraid. Too they made their beds.
Dr. Linda--my take is that the WEF young global leaders may have been 'caught' in compromising situations (c.f. James Bond novels for the 'how to')--they were 'young' after all, and so are unwilling (one can hope) slaves. Apologies for all the apostrophe.
Back in 1998 Justin Trudeau and his brother Michel (and others allegedly went on a "hike up into the alpine" in Kokanee Glacier Park... in the middle of November, in BC, Canada.
The claim was a Rock slide had carried Michel away, but not the others!
Michel was also allegedly carrying a heavy back pack...
Aesop's fable of the scorpion and the frog seems appropriate for the relationship between Pfizer and society through covid.
Why would you put out an experimental drug, lie and misrepresent the benefits and work hard to hide problems when the truth would eventually become obvious? No amount of money could be worth the inevitable damage to society and Pfizer itself.
Pfizer behaving rationally is the heart of the problem. The organization's highest and only value is making money. Fear of liability could have provided what looks like moral restraint, but even that was eliminated.
I think society going along with the massive taxpayer funded contracts and mostly accepting the vaccines better represents the frog. Politicians were not innocent.
How much is Hanlon’s razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" a truism of the entirely coincidental, accidental resemblance between wicked intent and incompetence, and how much is it simply a cover story conceived by the criminals themselves or their agents in order to exculpate their crimes if and when they ever are caught out?
Did Aldous Huxley write Brave New World because the theme, plot, and narrative just came to him, or was it predictive programming? Incidentally, brother Julian the evolutionary biologist, eugenicist, and internationalist, rather reeks like a scoundrel. There are just so many convenient coincidences, and they all seem to favour the criminals. That's also a coincidence, I'm sure.
All human beings exist to act justly. Pfizer exists to serve the common good, to make pharmaceuticals, and to make money all in relation to each other. They do not exist merely to make money, whether they understand that or accept that is another question.
Perhaps the very idea that a human-created entity should ever “exist to make money” versus “exist to produce things of human value and also, when appropriate and not evil, make money doing so” is one root problem.
Acting “rationally” is no excuse for acting evilly. Shifting blame reflexively onto the politicians who signed stupid contracts exclusively in order to exonerate such psychopathy seems bizarre to me.
With full acknowledgement that the alternate reality you describe would be a better one, any system that will actually work has to start with accepting human nature for what it is. It's a little like the design of an encryption scheme, in which the only successful approach assumes the adversary has full knowledge of how it works, and still cannot break the code. One element of human nature is to act in self-interest, and it applies at all levels - individual, local government, national government, and corporate. With that in mind, a pharma company trying to maximize profits is rational - not "psychopathy".
If you assume that (rational) behavior, you can then set up rules (laws) that expect it and account for it. So, you might set up a regulatory agency to make sure that drugs are safe and effective - not just profitable! But that stops working as soon as that agency gets its funding from the very companies it is supposed to regulate, because the regulatory agency will act in its own self-interest. Notice how this perfectly describes the situation today.
To make an analogy, think of it as a football game in which the players are pharma companies and government is the referees. You can wish/assume that they'll play by the rules "for the integrity of the game", "for the benefit of the fans", or whatever. How well do you think that will work? The players want to win; some will cheat. For sure. So you need referees that assume some players will try to cheat and do everything possible to prevent it. The situation today is not unlike having the teams pay the referees' salaries.
If a company acting in its own self-interest is assumed, then it is up to the buyer - the politicians - not to sign contracts that overcharge or have ridiculous terms. Saying that the politicians need to do so isn't "shifting blame reflexively", it's putting the blame exactly where it belongs.
But if you're being honest, the root cause is electing said politicians.
“any system that will actually work has to start with accepting human nature for what it is”
That’s the point. It’s not “working” except in the sense of facilitating massive unmitigated harms without a mechanism for redress.
Politicians (like referees) aren’t some lofty exception to what you call rational and I call evil. They also pursue maximization of self interest, which if done without regard to harms is evil.
The point of my comment was to call attention to what a ludicrously low standard of human behavior “maximizing self interest” is.
We may be approaching the limits of what this rational/contractual/cynical view of fallen humanity is capable of producing in terms of good, as all mechanisms of redress and justice are utterly subsumed by the logic of maximization of self interest and are busily and gluttonously consuming what remains of the social capital.
I'm not even remotely convinced - and all government behaviour everywhere and ever bears this out - that the politicians were/are panicky and over-reacted in good faith. They knew/know the score, they act with (almost) complete awareness of the plan/programme, and only if there might be consequences to face will they merely feign contrition when the bodies pile up, behind that moth-eaten alibi of, "but we were acting on the experts' advice, with the best of intentions."
ALL governments and state bureaucracies are instituted by and resolutely act in furtherance of their bosses interests. And who might their bosses be? It should have been obvious to everyone by now that they are the owners of the corporations, which of course includes the owners of Pfizer, BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca, etc., etc., indeed the whole disgusting lot.
We must stop this inane caper, this foolish delusion that governments are appointed by the people to serve the people, and are like any cross-section of society, composed of people with good and less good intentions. They are criminals. They are without doubt criminals, and they are the agents of the globalist oiler-banker corporate owners - the greatest criminals - and it is for them that they exist and work for.
Mask wearing still prevalent in certain areas of northern California. You may take the soy boy away from the pandemic, but you'll never take the pandemic out of the soy boy.
In northern Virginia 35 miles west of the cesspool (DC) there are so many mask wearers everywhere! in stores, whole families masked. These people have been damaged. There are lone mask wearing humans walking their dogs, people on bikes masked. It is crazy
I confess to having avoided going to church for last years in part because of this shedding possibility--am officially still member in Presby. Ch. USA--and they (see website) pressed every member to get vaxxed, as a theological duty. Yes to your second point; I avoid conversations with anyone but my husband and one dear friend.
Mask wearing dog walkers are very cruel ,letting their dogs run without a mask ,causing them to die a horrible death by inhaling Whyrusses in large amounts .
I did a gala last night — 700+ in attendance. ONE band member wore a mask. The event was totally outdoors. We’re in GA. Those of us who are suburban to rural have been veryyyy lax mask wearers since day 1.
We have a lot of that here in Vancouver too. Mostly Asians and a few old white paranoids. The hypoxia and the injections are both known to cause brain damage.
And S.Cal. I look at them like their wearing a florescent outfit and an asshat. I don't think they have enough brain power to even notice I am mocking them
The major MA hospital systems are getting rid of their mandatory masking requirements despite the squealing of the media. This is actually first sign to me that people in charge have given up. My wife still had to test and mask for a company function this week, though, so I’m thinking there will still be certain groups maintaining the cult for years to come.
I see probably 3-4 people a day still masking,a few even outside.Still people coming into pick up food masked .But lately a very large number of older people catching up and eating in groups without any cares.These people have given up on everything because I have overheard conversations of Covid cases after vaccination,so they understand the vaccine doesn’t stop everything.Northern Maryland area.
The masks are one of the symbols of the ‘woke’ cultural Marxist revolutionaries along with the pink hair, drag costumes and their various flags. Commifornia is the capital of woke, virtue signalling retards. Sad
Jared Diamond's 1997 Guns, Germs, and Steel has a very interesting chapter on how zoonotic diseases develop and evolve. It's happened repeatedly since the development of agriculture 10,000 years ago (with subsequent population densities and close contact with domestic animals). These diseases always find an equilibrium allowing them to maintain a long-term presence in the population which, of necessity, requires not killing everybody.
Even a lab-created microbe would follow this pattern once released into the wild.
If public health and governments weren't so fixated on the short term, they might have realized this.
I was pulling my hair out throughout this whole ordeal with the alarm and panic associated with each new variant, "nobody" understanding that viruses, particularly respiratory viruses, always "find" a balance where they're highly and easily transmissible. And how do they "do" that? By becoming benign enough that they don't put people down hard so they go about their daily business.
(of course, viruses don't do or find anything. they just mutate and selection for the variants that dominate are those mutations that are the easiest spread, so they're also going to be the more benign)
Did even 1 in a million people understand this? Was their ignorance exploited and manipulated to the hilt?
... Anyway. Good classic read, BTW. Loved that book.
It's a scam like most everything else. World wars. All planned. JFK. Moon landing my ass. 911. Corona. Dinosaurs too probably. Created a whole scientific field to fool people and steal money via grants. Its how it works. Its mosty all a sham. BUT most people would.lose themselves as they're so inexplicably attached to all this BS as part of who they are. Unbelievably sad BUT also funny. Brainwashed sheep.
You mean Trump's vaccines that Biden mandated? I know the average US voter doesn't even think about stuff, but I lay the blame on both parties. A pox on all their houses.
I look forward to entertaining conversations with my liberal neighbors if that election PR campaign comes to pass.
Oh from the Biden perspective it’s going to be Trump’s vax and everything that came afterwards is going to be memory holed like crazy. A Trump vs Biden election is something not many really want but probably what we’ll get. I’m personally rooting for a DeSantis v Trump “death match”. That should be Thunderdome.
DeSantis is good in FL, but, he is sadly backed by the Bushes and Karl Rove. He will yield to corporate powers and endless wars, he has to, they finance his campaign.
I keep hearing that but I keep seeing what he’s doing. Trump used Karl Rove. I would expect people who don’t like Trump to go to his chief competitor. I’m not too concerned who his donors are at this stage. Trump is running like he doesn’t have a record. He does and so does D. I supported Trump twice but the third time is not a charm for me. Let the games begin.
I used to be a Stephen Colbert fan. Even though I now thnk he's misguided, to put it charitably, I still have very fond memories of his interviews with Ham Rove. Hysterical.
I would be happy if the media could pull off the shift to blaming the pandemic and vaccines on Trump. For one thing, he deserves it. And second, it would mean that the threat of public health authoritarianism taking over may actually be past.
Agree with your first point but not necessarily the second one. Trump’s covid response was one of the worst political decisions in history and he needs to answer for it. I’m not convinced that will make a difference for the authoritarians now that the horse is out of the barn.
The Donald is not my favorite person. Actually, I detest the guy. My wife would watch The Apprentice and I’d leave the room. But in fairness, he is a scientific illiterate being advised by rapacious criminals like Tony Fauci et al, so while I agree with you that it was a disastrous handling of the situation, I do cut him some slack.
Read the chapters in Scott Atlas’ book regarding the time he spent advising him in the White House. Then get back to me about how much slack you cut him. Trump got rolled by everyone. The only way he should be allowed back in the Oval Office is if he’s pushing a vacuum cleaner.
The words "Biden" and "realize" don't belong in the same sentence. The man's brain is gone and it's getting worse. I don't think he is even going to make it to the election much less to the end of a potential 2nd term.
No Chris because he’s about to be 25th’d, lol 😝. As for the whole dementia gig, one has to truly wonder 💭. For starters it’s not even biden we’re seeing, just a very good actor who’s got crazy down pat. Look at all the TRUTH coming out regarding the biden crime family, what better way to skate than the old “I’m crazy” ploy. For all we know the real Joe biden is dead as a door nail.
The whole shit show is coming down and the roaches are taking cover. The laptop alone is bombshell!
And for all of those blaming Trump, who is not perfect, I’m not sure there was much he could do as this was all planned well before he took the ride down the escalator. Time will tell.
the miracle of modern chemistry and Hollywood make-up artists (mask, anyone?) --maybe just my fondness for very thin sheets of aluminum covering my head
Exactly. Yes, Trump should have fired those idiots by mid-summer. But there was an election on. He felt in couldn't. God bless him, I think he actually believed in miracles. (so hoped I was well.) so, I forgive him his mistakes. He thank him for his fighting the swamp.
Whereas, the Biden admin had a long time to learn. And learned incompetently in every way.
Yes, I agree with this. The Demsdo not want to be blamed. They want to say: Fauci and Wolrnsky are gone. Put the blame on Trump. Classic blame shifting. We shall see how well this attempt holds up.
It seems to me that this whole 'adminsitration' has relied on blaming. Over and over. My mother taught me, at the age of 7?, that casting blame was a no-no.
There can be zero wonder about why the best and highest level of opposition to EU and white genocide-globalism come from former USSR-satellite states.
They've already done this dance, they know all the steps and they know bullys of any size only ever stops when stopped with greater force.
The mongrel people of the formerly british isles as well as the the german, french, italian etc serfs and the Scandinavian village idiots and so on in the western parts of the EUSSR - to say nothing of the american fruit salad society, now ripe, rancid and rotten through and through - all think "It doesn't happen here, because we believe in Good and Rights and Equality...
...and should it happen it's for a Good Cause."
There is only ever one way and one way alone to deal with crimes where the victim(s) cannot be recomensated: the axe.
Admittedly, the U.S. were founded by religious nutcases, for whom the catholic monarchies of Old Europe weren't hardcore Christian enough. Yup, Maria Theresia was in puritan terms a progressive beacon of Liberalism.
So no wonder the Muricans love their idiotic little catechisms, like "family friendly" and so on.
Also look up Cyrus. You don’t even need a bible app. Just search whatever version you like and key words. I’m a KJV girl myself, so KJV King Cyrus. There’s a major reason Israel and scores of others compare Trump (the Trumpet) to Cyrus.
I’m headed out the door now . Just go to any Bible app and search the words 3 years. In Revelation, the Antichrist is revealed at the halfway point, but that’s not the only instance.
Revelation and Daniel a time and times and half a time is also 3 1/2 years the 1248 days is as well. Features in one other book I think, but cant recall it. It divides.the 7 year period of the great trib.
Yes! This is a time where we need truth and reconciliation. The truth must come out more.
So, those who can do this bear a responsibility. Yes, I am sure in many personal situations it is hard. They must become whistleblowers.
And the side effects (of all that crapped) investigated and the damage estimated. Some of evil doersdeserve punishment. Lost job. Prison for clear felonies. But mostly ridicule and derision. They betrayed the people.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, because it cannot be said too much. Pharmaceutical companies are not in business to make or keep you healthy. They are in business to make money. They will do anything they think they can get away with to make that happen.
As a former boss once told me, in reference to Pharma ( big and small), Margaret, it’s not about services or value...it’s about ching, ching, ching ching, ching ching.
Yep, you are spot on. I refer them to the Big Hamster Wheel of slow death. They treat you just enough to keep you hanging from a thread until they have maxed out your insurance and bankrupted you, then they just toss you aside.
I like Nancy Reagan’s slogan, “Just say NO to drugs”. And this includes Harmacuiticles!
"Sue me", implies sue all the taxpayers that funded purchases by both elected and un-elected officials, who seemingly know what's best for the populace.
"All knowing" comes to mind.
I haven't touched on the grift or graft that may have ensued over the past 3 years.
So to re-phrase, go ahead and sue the taxpayers...
Still a shocking number of people to me still wear the mask. And when I see it I feel a little bubble of rage welling up. I guess I could say I'm being "triggered" by the mask.
The contracts weren't stupid to the EU bureaucrats who signed off on them. They were benefited financially most probably, so made plenty of sense to them. The entirety of the Wuhan virus was a gigantic financial scam, with the added benefit to the globalists of reducing population.
It is thinking far too highly of eurocrats like von der leyen, to imagine they even received kickbacks. They behaved like hungry children facing an ice cream shortage.
No doubt the scamdemic realized billions of euros or dollars in grift for many of the players, but many of the faceless, nameless, unaccountable bureaucrats who enabled that grift were doing so in order to to be perceived as "doing something". And to be seen to be exercising power in the twisted reality they inhabit.
‘... the last remaining participants in the Covid circus are finally folding up their tables and going home.’ Circuses tour... they do take a Winter break... but they always come back. So, I suspect the participants are defusing and rehearsing new acts to amaze and thrill the paying crowds. I have always disliked circuses.
You are spot on, the cockroaches are simply rebooting. I’m hoping and praying many have learned their lessons from the last one. I too always hated circuses, they always felt evil and manevolent.
About a year ago, I was on a tour bus, rolling along some scenic Bavarian road, past picturesque villages. Our tour guide directed our attention to a point-of-interest: A large, modern building with a PFIZER sign.
Other bus passengers, several of them masked, applauded this pharmaceutical shrine.
THIS is what brought us to this point of a bumper crop of useless, pointless "vaccines."
Yes, governments were hoodwinked, but too many civilians went along with it, and let the government get away with it.
Americans should remember that as we approach the 2024 elections.
RFKjr is unlikely to become the Dem nominee, but he can push the discussion on government over-reach, which manifests itself in other ways--beyond covid. Case in point: I read the Constitution. It doesn't say anything about gas stoves, carbon emissions, and funding regime-change wars.
Thank you, Kathy Hochul--your ban on gas stoves will work nicely while you do nothing to increase the production of electricity. To say nothing of the elec. needed for your electric vehicles.
Preparing to respond to you, I realized that 'our' schools is a faulty idea. I was about to remark that this is an argument for other ways of learning/teaching/educating.
Our kids attended public schools. 40/50 years ago. When teachers were still allowed to teach. So did our older grand-kids. The younger grand- kids were home-schooled. As are ALL eight of our great-grandchildren.
We very strongly support "other ways of learning/teaching/educating".
- Being able to trust agreements with governments in future
- The factories that they built to manufacture the ordered vaccines that are no longer wanted, which will now have to be mothballed and destroyed at enormous cost.
@theloneranger Yes, all true to some degree. The part about future contracts not so much. Everyone knows Pfizer never needed that lopsided a contract.
So, a Poland says, lets negotiate a revision to the contract that is fair now, with our new knowledge. There might indeed need to be some “payout” to recover some costs. But NOT half the price of the not-manfactured medicine. Also, they cannot say now they need huge sums to cover original R&D. In fact, given all their immoral behavior (I mean mostly the lying), they deserve no profit IMO on future stuff.
The EU also had a willing alternative supplier in the form of AstraZeneca, who was doing the work on a non-profit basis. For this good will the EU screwed up the acquisition process causing it to be near the back of the queue, spurned AZ, attacked it very publicly, even made plans to illegally seize its factories and then turned to Pfizer/Moderna instead.
Now the EU cries foul! Yep, that will definitely encourage companies to produce medicine for it in future.
> given all their immoral behavior (I mean mostly the lying), they deserve no profit IMO on future stuff.
Although their standards of honesty are woeful, it was mostly the governments forcing everyone to purchase their stuff who were lying. The world can do without public health programmes by governments, but it can't do without pharma companies.
True, but those arguments are still all about the money and business. They are not about public health or improving the lives of their customers. The pharmaceutical industry and Pfizer in particular are not “good”. They are about as bad as the military industry.
Money and business are just alternative words for cooperation, projects, getting things done. These are not orthogonal to improving the lives of their customers.
The EU was already near the back of the pile and desperate when they started signing these contracts - a consequence of their appalling levels of collectivism. That's why the contracts are so terrible, so the EU could try to skip ahead in the queue. To violate them now would be a clear demonstration to all and sundry that the EU is a backwards and unreliable government, China-like in its fickle nature. Pharma goes from hero to zero overnight thanks purely to mistakes by civil servants. And look at what's happening to China - the people who get things done are fleeing.
No, the EU and the people who live there should pay Pfizer what they agreed, even if it's stupid and impoverishing. They should part willingly with their money to give it to Pfizer, just like they were doing two years ago. And then they should direct their ire where it actually belongs: on the EU. Only when they realize that there was a good reason for Brexit will they be able to avoid future catastrophes like this one.
And in the small country of Slovenia the courts have decided that all issued covid fines were unconstitutional (no shit) and the State has to pay them back.
Should be with interest and pain and suffering.
How they can break the law and not have to pay restitution?
"How they can break the law and not have to pay restitution?"
Simple---just behave like a typical totalitarian state, such as Biden's US, or the EU, etc...
Agree. But can it ever truly be paid back?
The authorities took more than salaries or a business owners dreams; they issued the equivalent of a death sentence to their fellow man/woman by excluding them from society. In other words a sentence of DESPAIR.
I wonder if any of these people who try to apologize could explain what they should really be apologizing for?
I mean what "means" test would you use to determine a "basis" for recompense for despair?
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Hear, hear!
And not only that but why are they not being forced (if necessary) to clean up the mess they made? Which will take years by the way. And some of the scars will be permanent.
I would wait and see ,before celebrating ,if anything gets payed back .
Yes, it will be all paid back by the sound of it. Some more details (via google translate of Slovenian news):
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...The draft law comprehensively regulates the area of payment of the amount of fines, costs of misdemeanor proceedings, forced recovery proceedings and forfeited property benefits in relation to misdemeanor proceedings conducted for misdemeanors committed between March 7, 2020 and May 30, 2022, as a violation of measures to prevent spread of the infectious disease covid-19.
The regulation is based on an analysis of the legal bases that were used in misdemeanor proceedings against individuals for violations of measures against the viral disease covid-19, and the starting points for the preparation of normative solutions adopted by the government at the meeting on November 24, 2022. In doing so, they pursue the goal, that fines, procedural costs, forced recovery procedures and forfeited property benefits are paid out as automatically as possible and with as little burden as possible for the beneficiaries.
... From the beginning of the epidemic until May 31, 2022, more than 62,000 misdemeanor proceedings were initiated and fines of more than 5.5 million euros were imposed due to the violation of covid rules. Of this, 1.7 million euros of fines, or about 30 percent, were paid voluntarily, while the rest went to forced recovery. "This amount, i.e. 1.7 million euros, is the real amount of compensation, or the financial consequence for the state," explained the Minister of Justice."
Citizens should use this as a model for approaching their local governments, city councils ect.
Because they can.
Because they know they will not be held accountable and that our legal system or justice system will never come after them. Knowing this, they act accordingly.
Double standards. One standard for wretched subjects another for the State
Once a court rules that the EU lacked authority to deprive citizens of the right to seek compensation for side effects, we may find that Pfizer becomes rather less keen to supply the remaining doses.
That’s one of the reasons why the company has already separated it’s other money-making product line sub businesses from it’s vaccine business. Suit insurance.
Courts in the US have the authority to "pierce the veil" of corporate entities in cases of serious misconduct in order to reach the financial assets of shareholders, officers and directors. The personal injury bar already smells blood in the water.
Having read Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe recently I'm not convinced they will get close to what Pfizer should be paying out over these vaccines. The drug companies hire the best lawyers out there who know all the loopholes of the law sadly.
All those fines have long been used up ,by luxurious living habits of politicians .If anything gets paid back it's with money collected as tax ,from the same victims .
They like to use your tax money, take care of the politicians and their friend, and then want to be celebrated as heroes for giving back half the value of the taxes to the tax payers. What a scam. Mostly a scam.
The only celebration I’m looking forward to is the day they are swinging from the Gallows!
Still, it does create a precedent, which tenders the barest possibility of serving to stave off the next wave of political insanity.
Well, in south africa cleptocracy is here to stay and our govvy will just not pay, ha ha. These pfizer pharma criminals are not the only criminals, our gov is unbeatable.
At least South Africa is a country in which the fact of governmental corruption is acknowledged. In New Zealand there is a fiction maintained by the politicians and public service that corruption does not exist here. It does not exist, so anyone complaining of it must be either deluded or seditious.
Weird, maybe easier to hide their corruption when you don't have the level of unemployment and poverty we have. We gave for the last 2 years + load shedding in our electricity supply, on average we get 14 hours or less electricity per day, because of state capture. The corruption is visible in the form of potholes in the roads, cholera where the drinking water is bad, less waste removal in bigger cities, tremendous job losses due to load shedding etc. You can't hide these things...and crime is skyhigh.
It takes different forms. You can't get out of a speeding fine by slipping the policeman a $50 note in NZ, but there are dangerously undermaintained roads and railway lines. The most egregious (but uninvestigated despite a complaint) was the massive overuse of PCR covid testing. The testing oligopoly delayed entry of rapid antigen testing (equally pointless, but a threat to the profits of the laboratories) to NZ by something like a year, even getting the government to make personal importation of a RAT test a criminal offense punishable by up to three months imprisonment.
How far such previously respected countries like NZ & OZ & Canada have sunk....how is it possible to avoid at least the suspicion of a worldwide conspiracy of the oligarchs to assume global control?
I have a family friend living in Australia for the last 15 years. It seems that all communication came to an end, meaning she does'nt talk about the totalitarian shift in politics or covid related stuff (scam etc), only chit chat. I am so sorry for the common wealth "nations" countries, because it seems that those are the countries that were the most propagandized nations. We will probably get there in our now third world country (we used to be almost first world country), but it will take longer.
You are not alone in your suffering annoyance. These criminals are unrelenting.
Governments disgust me.
So true! We have to keep on suffering
Same for NSW.
"Millions of dollars worth of NSW fines for COVID non-compliance set to be withdrawn and refunded after legal challenge"
I never masked in Sydney and almost got fined coming out of a food store mask free.
Amazing and Miraculous!!!! Hats off to the government of Slovenia! If only all governments would follow this example of “doing what is right.” Sadly here in AB Canada the court prosecutors are still out for blood and are firmly committed to “making examples of every single person who was charged with a covid fine.”
In Romania too, with the difference that here many fines were issued, but few people were scared enough to pay them, so the Government isn't binded to pay something back...
Wow, that is one of THE best news items I have read in a long, long time.
I played a concert in Ljubljana many years ago. Amazing, beautiful place. Kudos to you and your people, I can only hope that there's some sort of justice over here in the New World.
Every victory, however small, must be celebrated!
Slovenia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Poland seem to have the best and most intelligent leaders in the West. It makes me wonder how long it will be before the CIA and NATO declare war on them.
As a Slovenian, I cannot say that we have the best and most intelligent leaders. They are no different than any other, however, people are different. Even though we mostly keep our heads down and take the beating, we still don't trust the authority and simply don't comply without much fuss.
Unfortunately, this rebelious spirit is slowly disappearing. It's frowned upon a lot and politicians and media never miss an opportunity to make a mockery out of it. I wonder how much longer until we are like for example Germans that also keep their heads down and take the beating but also comply.
Their experience with communism made them permanently suspicious of government authority. To them the UN and NATO are merely softer versions of the same tyranny.
More details on the proposed bill... https://www-dnevnik-si.translate.goog/1043022415/slovenija/vlada-sprejela-predlog-zakona-za-odpravo-kazni-za-krsitve-neustavnih-covidnih-odlokov?_x_tr_sl=sl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
But of course, that 'pay back' will come out of taxpayers' pockets. Because the money incoming from the fines has already been spent.
This is always good optics but whose money does the State use to make these reparations?
Mine and yours naturally.
This already happened in Spain in 2021.
Total travesty that it is not the norm. All covid fines everywhere were unconstitutional and an abuse of the citizenry by the state.
Pfizer exists to make money, and is therefore behaving rationally. My issue is with panicky politicians falling all over themselves, agreeing to contracts so stupid that it boggles the mind.
It is highly likely that the politicians involved in negotiating these contracts were “incentivized” to purchase excessive amounts of doses--you know, “10% for the big guy.”
Quite
And who gave pharma immunity?
Out stupid and corrupt politicians
We need to go after our useless representatives….first.
The unelected, unaccountable, bureaucrats gave them the immunity. The bureaucrats who came from their own ranks, and used the pandemic to seize power from our corrupt (but still somewhat accountable) politicians.
That's why fascism fails. The corporations that are the parasites on a nation end up wanting more and more hush money. Governments give it away, but in these hard economic times, some governments are like WTF it's over, why are you aholes still trying to milk this scam?
Not meant as disrespect, Because they can get away with it? I’m guessing they have enough to blackmail many, many people in power. These people are afraid. Too they made their beds.
Dr. Linda--my take is that the WEF young global leaders may have been 'caught' in compromising situations (c.f. James Bond novels for the 'how to')--they were 'young' after all, and so are unwilling (one can hope) slaves. Apologies for all the apostrophe.
Yes---entrance into the elite requires moral and ethical compromise
Back in 1998 Justin Trudeau and his brother Michel (and others allegedly went on a "hike up into the alpine" in Kokanee Glacier Park... in the middle of November, in BC, Canada.
The claim was a Rock slide had carried Michel away, but not the others!
Michel was also allegedly carrying a heavy back pack...
Don't forget Bohemian Grove.
Had never heard of the grove--so checked just now--the whole idea of 'gentleman's club' is so repulsive--nothing gentlemanly about it I suspect
so of course one wonders, what had Michel done to deserve such death?....
Aesop's fable of the scorpion and the frog seems appropriate for the relationship between Pfizer and society through covid.
Why would you put out an experimental drug, lie and misrepresent the benefits and work hard to hide problems when the truth would eventually become obvious? No amount of money could be worth the inevitable damage to society and Pfizer itself.
LOL. LMAO. -Bourla
So funny - I was thinking of putting the scorpion and frog in my original comment. So relevant to what's happened here! Dumb politician frogs...
Pfizer behaving rationally is the heart of the problem. The organization's highest and only value is making money. Fear of liability could have provided what looks like moral restraint, but even that was eliminated.
I think society going along with the massive taxpayer funded contracts and mostly accepting the vaccines better represents the frog. Politicians were not innocent.
The pols are scorpions too. “Elected” ones.
How much is Hanlon’s razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" a truism of the entirely coincidental, accidental resemblance between wicked intent and incompetence, and how much is it simply a cover story conceived by the criminals themselves or their agents in order to exculpate their crimes if and when they ever are caught out?
Did Aldous Huxley write Brave New World because the theme, plot, and narrative just came to him, or was it predictive programming? Incidentally, brother Julian the evolutionary biologist, eugenicist, and internationalist, rather reeks like a scoundrel. There are just so many convenient coincidences, and they all seem to favour the criminals. That's also a coincidence, I'm sure.
Scorpions drown. The frog should dive.
The scorpion stings the frog
The frog should dive even (especially!) if the scorpion have begun stinging, and definitely before arriving at the far shore.
Where is the third player in this new version of rock, paper, scissors?
Those contracts aren't stupid for the politicians........
Rationally, yes, but unethically. There will be a long-term price for their overreach: "Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered."
All I can say is, I hope like hell you are right. But not holding my breath.
All human beings exist to act justly. Pfizer exists to serve the common good, to make pharmaceuticals, and to make money all in relation to each other. They do not exist merely to make money, whether they understand that or accept that is another question.
Perhaps the very idea that a human-created entity should ever “exist to make money” versus “exist to produce things of human value and also, when appropriate and not evil, make money doing so” is one root problem.
Acting “rationally” is no excuse for acting evilly. Shifting blame reflexively onto the politicians who signed stupid contracts exclusively in order to exonerate such psychopathy seems bizarre to me.
With full acknowledgement that the alternate reality you describe would be a better one, any system that will actually work has to start with accepting human nature for what it is. It's a little like the design of an encryption scheme, in which the only successful approach assumes the adversary has full knowledge of how it works, and still cannot break the code. One element of human nature is to act in self-interest, and it applies at all levels - individual, local government, national government, and corporate. With that in mind, a pharma company trying to maximize profits is rational - not "psychopathy".
If you assume that (rational) behavior, you can then set up rules (laws) that expect it and account for it. So, you might set up a regulatory agency to make sure that drugs are safe and effective - not just profitable! But that stops working as soon as that agency gets its funding from the very companies it is supposed to regulate, because the regulatory agency will act in its own self-interest. Notice how this perfectly describes the situation today.
To make an analogy, think of it as a football game in which the players are pharma companies and government is the referees. You can wish/assume that they'll play by the rules "for the integrity of the game", "for the benefit of the fans", or whatever. How well do you think that will work? The players want to win; some will cheat. For sure. So you need referees that assume some players will try to cheat and do everything possible to prevent it. The situation today is not unlike having the teams pay the referees' salaries.
If a company acting in its own self-interest is assumed, then it is up to the buyer - the politicians - not to sign contracts that overcharge or have ridiculous terms. Saying that the politicians need to do so isn't "shifting blame reflexively", it's putting the blame exactly where it belongs.
But if you're being honest, the root cause is electing said politicians.
“any system that will actually work has to start with accepting human nature for what it is”
That’s the point. It’s not “working” except in the sense of facilitating massive unmitigated harms without a mechanism for redress.
Politicians (like referees) aren’t some lofty exception to what you call rational and I call evil. They also pursue maximization of self interest, which if done without regard to harms is evil.
The point of my comment was to call attention to what a ludicrously low standard of human behavior “maximizing self interest” is.
We may be approaching the limits of what this rational/contractual/cynical view of fallen humanity is capable of producing in terms of good, as all mechanisms of redress and justice are utterly subsumed by the logic of maximization of self interest and are busily and gluttonously consuming what remains of the social capital.
I'm not even remotely convinced - and all government behaviour everywhere and ever bears this out - that the politicians were/are panicky and over-reacted in good faith. They knew/know the score, they act with (almost) complete awareness of the plan/programme, and only if there might be consequences to face will they merely feign contrition when the bodies pile up, behind that moth-eaten alibi of, "but we were acting on the experts' advice, with the best of intentions."
ALL governments and state bureaucracies are instituted by and resolutely act in furtherance of their bosses interests. And who might their bosses be? It should have been obvious to everyone by now that they are the owners of the corporations, which of course includes the owners of Pfizer, BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca, etc., etc., indeed the whole disgusting lot.
We must stop this inane caper, this foolish delusion that governments are appointed by the people to serve the people, and are like any cross-section of society, composed of people with good and less good intentions. They are criminals. They are without doubt criminals, and they are the agents of the globalist oiler-banker corporate owners - the greatest criminals - and it is for them that they exist and work for.
I think you mistakenly used the word ‘panicky’ instead of ‘greedy’ or ‘corrupt.’ They made a lot of money via kickbacks.
Mask wearing still prevalent in certain areas of northern California. You may take the soy boy away from the pandemic, but you'll never take the pandemic out of the soy boy.
In northern Virginia 35 miles west of the cesspool (DC) there are so many mask wearers everywhere! in stores, whole families masked. These people have been damaged. There are lone mask wearing humans walking their dogs, people on bikes masked. It is crazy
They should each wear a t-shirt displaying number of vaxxes, date of last vax. Thus you could estimate the other variable: number of life-days left.
And know to stay away from them because of shedding. And to keep away from awkward conversations with irrational people.
I confess to having avoided going to church for last years in part because of this shedding possibility--am officially still member in Presby. Ch. USA--and they (see website) pressed every member to get vaxxed, as a theological duty. Yes to your second point; I avoid conversations with anyone but my husband and one dear friend.
Reminds me of my latest twitter reply for vaxholes, "Can you call it a democide if the herd self culls?"
Mask wearing dog walkers are very cruel ,letting their dogs run without a mask ,causing them to die a horrible death by inhaling Whyrusses in large amounts .
These people have been damaged.
I did a gala last night — 700+ in attendance. ONE band member wore a mask. The event was totally outdoors. We’re in GA. Those of us who are suburban to rural have been veryyyy lax mask wearers since day 1.
We have a lot of that here in Vancouver too. Mostly Asians and a few old white paranoids. The hypoxia and the injections are both known to cause brain damage.
I had a business trip to LA this week; no less than 30% of all people still wore a masks. And at least 15% wore them outside.
What did you expect in LA?
Or anywhere in California for that matter.
That's where all America's "leaders" live. As I wrote two months ago, we are being led by the obtuse.
And S.Cal. I look at them like their wearing a florescent outfit and an asshat. I don't think they have enough brain power to even notice I am mocking them
Well, bless their hearts.
The major MA hospital systems are getting rid of their mandatory masking requirements despite the squealing of the media. This is actually first sign to me that people in charge have given up. My wife still had to test and mask for a company function this week, though, so I’m thinking there will still be certain groups maintaining the cult for years to come.
Test? In 2023?
You see the FDA news release?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/fda-recalls-more-than-500k-covid-tests-over-bacteria-risk/ar-AA1aNv0z
No idea if this a real problem or the FDA is trying to look like they are doing something.
Many Californian institutions still unconstitutionally, arguably even illegally, mandate vaccines without any scientific justification.
The level of superstition reached by these California cult leaders has reached new heights.
I see probably 3-4 people a day still masking,a few even outside.Still people coming into pick up food masked .But lately a very large number of older people catching up and eating in groups without any cares.These people have given up on everything because I have overheard conversations of Covid cases after vaccination,so they understand the vaccine doesn’t stop everything.Northern Maryland area.
San Francisco city and county are still under vax mandate for all public employees
Shocka!
Pittsburgh VA hospital requires masks...or entry and medical care is denied to veterans.
Signs all over the place.
Comply by wearng a Halloween mask.
V for Vendetta mask.
The masks are one of the symbols of the ‘woke’ cultural Marxist revolutionaries along with the pink hair, drag costumes and their various flags. Commifornia is the capital of woke, virtue signalling retards. Sad
Where there are maskers ,there are venom shooters .Once addicted they are no different than heroin addicts .
perhaps they are not addicts but masking from shedding by the vaccinated
Jared Diamond's 1997 Guns, Germs, and Steel has a very interesting chapter on how zoonotic diseases develop and evolve. It's happened repeatedly since the development of agriculture 10,000 years ago (with subsequent population densities and close contact with domestic animals). These diseases always find an equilibrium allowing them to maintain a long-term presence in the population which, of necessity, requires not killing everybody.
Even a lab-created microbe would follow this pattern once released into the wild.
If public health and governments weren't so fixated on the short term, they might have realized this.
Basic antigenic drift and shift.
I was pulling my hair out throughout this whole ordeal with the alarm and panic associated with each new variant, "nobody" understanding that viruses, particularly respiratory viruses, always "find" a balance where they're highly and easily transmissible. And how do they "do" that? By becoming benign enough that they don't put people down hard so they go about their daily business.
(of course, viruses don't do or find anything. they just mutate and selection for the variants that dominate are those mutations that are the easiest spread, so they're also going to be the more benign)
Did even 1 in a million people understand this? Was their ignorance exploited and manipulated to the hilt?
... Anyway. Good classic read, BTW. Loved that book.
Thank YOU. I teach this stuff and I even have family members who won't listen to a frakkin' thing I say about virology 101 and immunology 101.
I deal with the same. It’s like I am the village idiot. I have new found respect for those called the village idiot.
Welcome to the club, bud. My doctorate means nothing compared to a google search.
Same. Could have written my dissertation from the back of Rolling Stone magazine.
Politicians and big pharma use their whyrusses to outsmart all of humanity .Are sub variants created in sub marines ??
It's a scam like most everything else. World wars. All planned. JFK. Moon landing my ass. 911. Corona. Dinosaurs too probably. Created a whole scientific field to fool people and steal money via grants. Its how it works. Its mosty all a sham. BUT most people would.lose themselves as they're so inexplicably attached to all this BS as part of who they are. Unbelievably sad BUT also funny. Brainwashed sheep.
One of my favorite books of all time
Damn. I own it. Haven't read it.
Get to it, man!
Don't feel bad, I've had it on my To Read pile for about eight years. Glad I'm finally getting around to it.
You must read the book ; Whyrusses for idiots ,it's a best seller .
Audiobook is a good option too.
Looks like I need to add it to my list.
Jared Diamond? Like the jewelry store?
Husband and I so appreciated that book!
They’re ending restrictions in the US because there’s an election to win and the focus will be shifting to Trump’s vaccines.
You mean Trump's vaccines that Biden mandated? I know the average US voter doesn't even think about stuff, but I lay the blame on both parties. A pox on all their houses.
I look forward to entertaining conversations with my liberal neighbors if that election PR campaign comes to pass.
Oh from the Biden perspective it’s going to be Trump’s vax and everything that came afterwards is going to be memory holed like crazy. A Trump vs Biden election is something not many really want but probably what we’ll get. I’m personally rooting for a DeSantis v Trump “death match”. That should be Thunderdome.
DeSantis is good in FL, but, he is sadly backed by the Bushes and Karl Rove. He will yield to corporate powers and endless wars, he has to, they finance his campaign.
I keep hearing that but I keep seeing what he’s doing. Trump used Karl Rove. I would expect people who don’t like Trump to go to his chief competitor. I’m not too concerned who his donors are at this stage. Trump is running like he doesn’t have a record. He does and so does D. I supported Trump twice but the third time is not a charm for me. Let the games begin.
KARL ROVE !!??🤢🤮
I used to be a Stephen Colbert fan. Even though I now thnk he's misguided, to put it charitably, I still have very fond memories of his interviews with Ham Rove. Hysterical.
Colbert 🤣🤣🤣🤮
I’ll bring the popcorn!
I would be happy if the media could pull off the shift to blaming the pandemic and vaccines on Trump. For one thing, he deserves it. And second, it would mean that the threat of public health authoritarianism taking over may actually be past.
Agree with your first point but not necessarily the second one. Trump’s covid response was one of the worst political decisions in history and he needs to answer for it. I’m not convinced that will make a difference for the authoritarians now that the horse is out of the barn.
The Donald is not my favorite person. Actually, I detest the guy. My wife would watch The Apprentice and I’d leave the room. But in fairness, he is a scientific illiterate being advised by rapacious criminals like Tony Fauci et al, so while I agree with you that it was a disastrous handling of the situation, I do cut him some slack.
Read the chapters in Scott Atlas’ book regarding the time he spent advising him in the White House. Then get back to me about how much slack you cut him. Trump got rolled by everyone. The only way he should be allowed back in the Oval Office is if he’s pushing a vacuum cleaner.
Are you for real?
The words "Biden" and "realize" don't belong in the same sentence. The man's brain is gone and it's getting worse. I don't think he is even going to make it to the election much less to the end of a potential 2nd term.
No Chris because he’s about to be 25th’d, lol 😝. As for the whole dementia gig, one has to truly wonder 💭. For starters it’s not even biden we’re seeing, just a very good actor who’s got crazy down pat. Look at all the TRUTH coming out regarding the biden crime family, what better way to skate than the old “I’m crazy” ploy. For all we know the real Joe biden is dead as a door nail.
The whole shit show is coming down and the roaches are taking cover. The laptop alone is bombshell!
And for all of those blaming Trump, who is not perfect, I’m not sure there was much he could do as this was all planned well before he took the ride down the escalator. Time will tell.
Who knows. The miracle of modern chemistry. I’d like to know their protocols. I never imagined he’d make it this far.
the miracle of modern chemistry and Hollywood make-up artists (mask, anyone?) --maybe just my fondness for very thin sheets of aluminum covering my head
Yes, of course--not Biden's vax mandates.
Exactly. Yes, Trump should have fired those idiots by mid-summer. But there was an election on. He felt in couldn't. God bless him, I think he actually believed in miracles. (so hoped I was well.) so, I forgive him his mistakes. He thank him for his fighting the swamp.
Whereas, the Biden admin had a long time to learn. And learned incompetently in every way.
Yes, I agree with this. The Demsdo not want to be blamed. They want to say: Fauci and Wolrnsky are gone. Put the blame on Trump. Classic blame shifting. We shall see how well this attempt holds up.
It seems to me that this whole 'adminsitration' has relied on blaming. Over and over. My mother taught me, at the age of 7?, that casting blame was a no-no.
There can be zero wonder about why the best and highest level of opposition to EU and white genocide-globalism come from former USSR-satellite states.
They've already done this dance, they know all the steps and they know bullys of any size only ever stops when stopped with greater force.
The mongrel people of the formerly british isles as well as the the german, french, italian etc serfs and the Scandinavian village idiots and so on in the western parts of the EUSSR - to say nothing of the american fruit salad society, now ripe, rancid and rotten through and through - all think "It doesn't happen here, because we believe in Good and Rights and Equality...
...and should it happen it's for a Good Cause."
There is only ever one way and one way alone to deal with crimes where the victim(s) cannot be recomensated: the axe.
I vote for "BLOOD EAGLE".
I think a better axe is continuing contempt and derision.
"american fruit salad" LMFAO
Admittedly, the U.S. were founded by religious nutcases, for whom the catholic monarchies of Old Europe weren't hardcore Christian enough. Yup, Maria Theresia was in puritan terms a progressive beacon of Liberalism.
So no wonder the Muricans love their idiotic little catechisms, like "family friendly" and so on.
What about the wheel?
Too slow!
Isn't that the point?
This is an exciting, but also very biblical moment . 3.5 years often marks a halfway point in God’s plans. I’m a little nervous about what comes next.
Interesting point. 7,7,7--years of famine, years to jubilee (?)
Also look up Cyrus. You don’t even need a bible app. Just search whatever version you like and key words. I’m a KJV girl myself, so KJV King Cyrus. There’s a major reason Israel and scores of others compare Trump (the Trumpet) to Cyrus.
Where does it detail that 3.5 years ia a biblical halfway point?
I’m headed out the door now . Just go to any Bible app and search the words 3 years. In Revelation, the Antichrist is revealed at the halfway point, but that’s not the only instance.
3.5 years js
Revelation and Daniel a time and times and half a time is also 3 1/2 years the 1248 days is as well. Features in one other book I think, but cant recall it. It divides.the 7 year period of the great trib.
Thanks. Yeah I too remember something about 3.5. Don't remember didn't research it.
Damn!
"...and the increasing disinterest of the public in obtaining official test results has put all virus statistics in the toilet"
And here I've been having so much fun the last year or so, any time someone complains colloquially of having a "cold" or "flu."
"Did you get tested?"
"No!? <sounding alarmed> So you don't know what strain or variant you have!!!???"
Oh you wicked wicked monkey, lol 😂 Love it!
We need more whistleblowers at the highest level. Bravo for Poland.
Yes! This is a time where we need truth and reconciliation. The truth must come out more.
So, those who can do this bear a responsibility. Yes, I am sure in many personal situations it is hard. They must become whistleblowers.
And the side effects (of all that crapped) investigated and the damage estimated. Some of evil doersdeserve punishment. Lost job. Prison for clear felonies. But mostly ridicule and derision. They betrayed the people.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, because it cannot be said too much. Pharmaceutical companies are not in business to make or keep you healthy. They are in business to make money. They will do anything they think they can get away with to make that happen.
As a former boss once told me, in reference to Pharma ( big and small), Margaret, it’s not about services or value...it’s about ching, ching, ching ching, ching ching.
Driving scripts. That’s all I ever heard from the marketing folks.
Yep….”compliance”!
Including coming up with reasons to keep people sick so that their "solutions" are the first thing they think of.
Yep, you are spot on. I refer them to the Big Hamster Wheel of slow death. They treat you just enough to keep you hanging from a thread until they have maxed out your insurance and bankrupted you, then they just toss you aside.
I like Nancy Reagan’s slogan, “Just say NO to drugs”. And this includes Harmacuiticles!
Incredible.
"2 weeks to flatten the curve", and Pfizer supplying 5 years worth of vaccinations.
AB likely never got the vax.
While there is a contractual obligation, the way forward is to say
No, sue me.
Discovery would be interesting...
Yes, it’s the Discovery that will be the nail in their coffins. So, if it were me I tell em to go pound salt, what are you gonna do about it?
I feel I need to add an addendum.
"Sue me", implies sue all the taxpayers that funded purchases by both elected and un-elected officials, who seemingly know what's best for the populace.
"All knowing" comes to mind.
I haven't touched on the grift or graft that may have ensued over the past 3 years.
So to re-phrase, go ahead and sue the taxpayers...
I feel better having said that...
Still a shocking number of people to me still wear the mask. And when I see it I feel a little bubble of rage welling up. I guess I could say I'm being "triggered" by the mask.
Same here. It’s almost like chalk screeching on chalkboard. I must chill better
Nah, anger is counterproductive, I prefer laughing in their cloth covered mugs, lol 😂
The contracts weren't stupid to the EU bureaucrats who signed off on them. They were benefited financially most probably, so made plenty of sense to them. The entirety of the Wuhan virus was a gigantic financial scam, with the added benefit to the globalists of reducing population.
danny
It is thinking far too highly of eurocrats like von der leyen, to imagine they even received kickbacks. They behaved like hungry children facing an ice cream shortage.
Insecure children wanting to be the “cool kids”. Absolutely pathetic.
No doubt the scamdemic realized billions of euros or dollars in grift for many of the players, but many of the faceless, nameless, unaccountable bureaucrats who enabled that grift were doing so in order to to be perceived as "doing something". And to be seen to be exercising power in the twisted reality they inhabit.
‘... the last remaining participants in the Covid circus are finally folding up their tables and going home.’ Circuses tour... they do take a Winter break... but they always come back. So, I suspect the participants are defusing and rehearsing new acts to amaze and thrill the paying crowds. I have always disliked circuses.
You are spot on, the cockroaches are simply rebooting. I’m hoping and praying many have learned their lessons from the last one. I too always hated circuses, they always felt evil and manevolent.
Wait. What?
"Pfizer" and "good faith" in the same sentence?
About a year ago, I was on a tour bus, rolling along some scenic Bavarian road, past picturesque villages. Our tour guide directed our attention to a point-of-interest: A large, modern building with a PFIZER sign.
Other bus passengers, several of them masked, applauded this pharmaceutical shrine.
THIS is what brought us to this point of a bumper crop of useless, pointless "vaccines."
Yes, governments were hoodwinked, but too many civilians went along with it, and let the government get away with it.
Right on Rosie!
WE let "them" do it.
To us.
And we have always had the power to say NO!
We just lack the will.
Americans should remember that as we approach the 2024 elections.
RFKjr is unlikely to become the Dem nominee, but he can push the discussion on government over-reach, which manifests itself in other ways--beyond covid. Case in point: I read the Constitution. It doesn't say anything about gas stoves, carbon emissions, and funding regime-change wars.
Thank you, Kathy Hochul--your ban on gas stoves will work nicely while you do nothing to increase the production of electricity. To say nothing of the elec. needed for your electric vehicles.
Tyrants create the problems to "save" you with their "lucky" investment insights.
Noting your 'handle'--I have just set to germinate seeds of bush and pole beans, peanuts, corn--it's come to that time where I live
Most of our plant foods come from my vegetable garden--and have for 50 years
I too have read that famous document. Many times.
Pity we no longer teach reading, or history, in our schools.
Preparing to respond to you, I realized that 'our' schools is a faulty idea. I was about to remark that this is an argument for other ways of learning/teaching/educating.
Our kids attended public schools. 40/50 years ago. When teachers were still allowed to teach. So did our older grand-kids. The younger grand- kids were home-schooled. As are ALL eight of our great-grandchildren.
We very strongly support "other ways of learning/teaching/educating".
Well, not this girl! NO! Has to be my most favorite all time response in this crazy town world we’re living in today, lol 😂.
I would like to reassure the Polish government: You have been correct all along, pushing the vaccines was not only about the money.
Pfizer demanding to be paid for nonexistent undelivered doses, on the other hand, is entirely about money.
To steelman their case, it can also be about:
- Contract law being meaningful
- Being able to trust agreements with governments in future
- The factories that they built to manufacture the ordered vaccines that are no longer wanted, which will now have to be mothballed and destroyed at enormous cost.
@theloneranger Yes, all true to some degree. The part about future contracts not so much. Everyone knows Pfizer never needed that lopsided a contract.
So, a Poland says, lets negotiate a revision to the contract that is fair now, with our new knowledge. There might indeed need to be some “payout” to recover some costs. But NOT half the price of the not-manfactured medicine. Also, they cannot say now they need huge sums to cover original R&D. In fact, given all their immoral behavior (I mean mostly the lying), they deserve no profit IMO on future stuff.
The EU also had a willing alternative supplier in the form of AstraZeneca, who was doing the work on a non-profit basis. For this good will the EU screwed up the acquisition process causing it to be near the back of the queue, spurned AZ, attacked it very publicly, even made plans to illegally seize its factories and then turned to Pfizer/Moderna instead.
Now the EU cries foul! Yep, that will definitely encourage companies to produce medicine for it in future.
> given all their immoral behavior (I mean mostly the lying), they deserve no profit IMO on future stuff.
Although their standards of honesty are woeful, it was mostly the governments forcing everyone to purchase their stuff who were lying. The world can do without public health programmes by governments, but it can't do without pharma companies.
True, but those arguments are still all about the money and business. They are not about public health or improving the lives of their customers. The pharmaceutical industry and Pfizer in particular are not “good”. They are about as bad as the military industry.
Money and business are just alternative words for cooperation, projects, getting things done. These are not orthogonal to improving the lives of their customers.
The EU was already near the back of the pile and desperate when they started signing these contracts - a consequence of their appalling levels of collectivism. That's why the contracts are so terrible, so the EU could try to skip ahead in the queue. To violate them now would be a clear demonstration to all and sundry that the EU is a backwards and unreliable government, China-like in its fickle nature. Pharma goes from hero to zero overnight thanks purely to mistakes by civil servants. And look at what's happening to China - the people who get things done are fleeing.
No, the EU and the people who live there should pay Pfizer what they agreed, even if it's stupid and impoverishing. They should part willingly with their money to give it to Pfizer, just like they were doing two years ago. And then they should direct their ire where it actually belongs: on the EU. Only when they realize that there was a good reason for Brexit will they be able to avoid future catastrophes like this one.