To be clear: A non-mRNA nasal vaxx approach is probably preferable in many ways to our current vaccine repertoire, at least for the sick and vulnerable. But, people have been making this point for a long time and nobody has really given a shit until this moment. Also too: In keeping with the rule that measures are only ever added, never withdrawn, the Iwasaki nasal spray is envisioned only as a booster. You still have to get mRNA vaxxed (or, "primed" as the preprint calls it: a further demotion for the vaccinated). And, it sounds a lot like they'll be wanting you to snort spike at regular intervals indefinitely, which is very unlikely to be a good idea.
Out in nature, fickle wind would disperse it before the subjects could inhale enough to be effective. But it's feasible that the vaccinators might try to introduce it into the ventilation systems of public buildings.
Easy..they are just contrails...Imagine if ground crews on public listed companies, whilst working on the planes..ALL MISSED the spraying devices fitted to the planes..for the last 40 years...(or are "they" in on the whole thing to?)wow..so thats out..which leaves you with secret squirrel planes doing it...to wreck people health..even though the public do that with diet without requiring any "sprays"...
Please don't mention stuff like "chemtrails" here. This drags down a wonderful community into the realms of rabid, deranged conspiracy theorists. Chemtrails are really one of the more idiotic conspiracy theories.
I know someone who manages clinical trials for Pfizer. She is currently working on mRNA vaxxines for the flu, pneumonia and shingles. They let the mRNA genie out of the bottle, and it will never go back in, regardless if it works or not.
I think it was the CEO of Pfizer who gave a speech bragging that the pandemic response had normalized a class of therapies that would otherwise have been a very hard sell.
That's a big driver here. Imagine the money that can be made if 'vaccines' can be pumped out on a monthly basis with little or no testing. Especially if they're use is made mandatory.
Bonus points if the treatments critically injure people who then need to purchase additional medical services.
And now said friend is kind of p*ssed off because for the flu/pneumonia/shingles mRNA studies, the FDA has returned to the old formula of lots of studies over a long time. Which, in her opinion, makes life so much harder and stops life saving therapies from getting to the public in a timely manner.
I agree between malfeasance, lab mistakes and paper based data and subject manipulation, it seems a waste of time for further analysis of the CTrials. It is clear the product is a unsafe from all world adverse reporting systems.
good point. Like medical personnel who thought it was too much work to switch out needles from patient to patient. Example: those nuns who started the first ebola epidemic in a newborn ward
Oh, I know. And if you ask her about things like unblinding the original C0VID studies, her response is "they HAD to unblind and give the vaxxines, because people would have died otherwise." If you point out issues in any of the clinical studies, her response is either "this person doesn't know what they're talking about and are harming the medical world by discouraging people from participating" or "this person is attacking the C0VID vaxxine to gain publicity and is not helpful, because there are NO OTHER ways to stop C0VID outside of vaxxines."
Which is why we rarely speak about her job.
Anecdotally, her son has "long C0VID;" I suspect he is vaxx injured.
Not only did they normalize pharmaceutical products being released with basically no testing but also forcing those products on whole populations with perpetual EUAs.
“We are really taking that leap [to drive innovation] – us as a company, Bayer – in cell and gene therapies … ultimately the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy. I always like to say: if we had surveyed two years ago in the public – ‘would you be willing to take a gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body?’ – we probably would have had a 95% refusal rate,”
And I read yesterday that some folks at the U of Colorado are studying if these jabs shed—and it seems they do. More work needed, of course. And some kind of review yet to be done of their work, but…. Totally scary that we may be exposed to the spike protein via shedding, etc. Masks do trap some—but that means that the masked are breathing back their own toxins into their lungs. The work was done on masks people wore for one day.
Please, stop with this "shedding" nonsense. All kinds of cell surface proteins, receptors, growth factors, adhesion molecules are constantly shed into the bloodstream or the extracellular environment. They will not be expelled with air from your lungs in any meaningful amount. And even if they did, what would a few nanogram of shed Spike protein do? Nothing, obviously. It can't even do its job if it is not anchored into the viral membrane. Also, all of us have been infected with various coronaviruses, so we all got a good dose of spike protein. The hysteria around a protein is as ridiculous as the Covid hysteria itself. It is a protein with a defined function, not a prion like toxin that can harm you in small amounts.
You are shooting the messenger. I suggest you take up your complaint with the folks in Colorado doing this research. Or at least read what they are finding. They, as I recall, did not limit to the spike protein. There was, it seems, a theory that shedding of toxins from lungs was not possible due to the jabs not being “live.” But that theory did not account for the spikes, the other proteins, etc., made by one’s body after the jabs. There was a beneficial side possible here—in that some sort of passive herd immunity might form. More work needs to be done.
I doubt that these will be bestsellers. Way too harsh in the side effect profile. I felt absolutely awful after my second Moderna shot, I would never ever consider an mRNA based flu shot. I never had an infection that made me feel as bad as this "vaccine".
p.s.: In fact, I don't get any flu shots. Just the really important stuff like tetanus shots.
There is no reason for any of us to trust ANYTHING these demons create in record time after what’s been done to & forced on us the past 2+ years, especially if Gates-From-Hell, WHO, CDC, FDA, WEF, our illustrious global elites are all in for it
Why a vaccine at all? You can get nasal sprays that will deal with everything. No need for a vaccine. Simple salt water has been a remedy in my family for decades. ALWAYS works and yes, I take a little into my nose and blow it out in addition to gargling with it.
One of the best ways to do this is get a little warm salt water cupped in your hand, raise it to your face and cup it against the base of your nose, pressing one nostril closed and gently tipping your head back and slowly and gently drawing a little of the water into the open nostril. It will not be at all uncomfortable if done like this and you can clean your nose one nostril at a time very well with successive tries, to the point where the water will painlessly trickle all the way thru the channel that comes into the back of your throat and allow that passageway to be rinsed clear. In Yoga this technique is called Neti and it is very easy.
Sometime in 2020 I read about research into a nasal vaccine. Unfortunately I did not save the reference. But you're correct that a nasal vaccine would be more effective than the one we use now. "Effective", of course, being the operative word.
None. During thousands or however many years of human history how long have we been letting psychopaths inject us with random poisons and floor sweepings dumped into vats (I wish I was exaggerating, but it does seem that bad, actually.)? Do we like the results of the last 100 or so years of this madness? Did primitive man wander around the plains looking for his asthma inhaler? Did he think it wise to take 50 of his tribe's progeny and let venomous snakes bite them and another 50 and keep them safe to determine if snake bites produced "health"? Vaccines do produce mental retardation (autism and developmental disorders) and I can prove it from a reference to a text from the 1960s. On page 16 of this reference you can find the truth: https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/DSM-II.pdf
Absolutely agree. A vaccine has never previously been proposed as the response to a global novel respiratory pandemic. In the case of seasonal flu, unfortunately they don’t work well in the very demographic you’d want to protect, the elderly & infirm, because their immune systems are senescent (which is why they’re vulnerable in the first place).
Frankly, after all that we’ve learned, I’m flummoxed as to why anyone would even consider getting any type of experimental injection. Or, for that matter, even the other vaccines (pneumonia, flu, you name it). I think folks are brainwashed via marketing & propaganda to believe they’re necessary. I don’t believe in ANY of them any more.
Another Side of the Story, Thats what’s been diabolical all this time: instead of caring about “public health” by promoting relevant vitamins & minerals, cheap therapeutics, exercise, losing weight, mitigating comorbidities, living our lives, fresh air…they promoted everything to make us physically & mentally ill - lockdowns, masks, detention, phony treatments that killed, isolation, all of which led to gaining weight, eating/drinking/ingesting too much, depression & anxiety, loneliness & feeling that we were going nuts, & major issues of anger &/or despair
OK, so there's a BETADINE nasal spray on Amazon that purportedly kills 99% of virus and AFAIK does not stand a chance of negatively affecting one's immune system.
I mean, even the best vaccine is doing *something* to affect your immune system, hopefully in a good way but every single medication has some amount of side effects.
It would have to beat the performance of that BETADINE spray or what's the point outside of enriching billionaires?
I searched on iodine and found "Combined Nasal, Oropharyngeal Povidone Iodine Plus Glycyrrhizic Acid Sprays, Accelerate Clinical and Laboratory Recovery and Reduces Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: A Randomized Placebo-Controlled Clinical Trial
Elsersy et al., Frontiers in Medicine, doi:10.3389/fmed.2022.863917"
Which actually has very impressive results listed in the table:
Hospitalization: 91% improvement
Viral Clearance: 90% improvement
Transmission: 92% improvement
Transmission(b): 94% improvement
All categories favor providone-iodine. Heck, I never even knew that. I primarily use Chinese herbs and haven't struggled with covid one bit. I had it once and went through it relatively easily.
https://c19pvpi.com. there were two studies I read done with health care workers in Bangladesh and another one in India. McCullough sites studies for this preventative as well.
I think risky too. Nasal delivery shortcut to the brain. I hate to ask because we have evolved with corona virus exposures, although perhaps not lab-made ones like c19, have any nasal delivery/animal trials been done?
Wouldn't an mRNA or DNA vector virus based nasal spray just cause pneumonia? Since all cells these vaccines enter into will be killed by T-cells, which causes local inflammation.
That being said, I guess pneumonia is preferable to myocarditis. However, LNP's or adeno viruses entering the lungs can probably still enter the bloodstream from there so idk if the biodistribution profile will be safer.
mRNA vaccines work almost the same as attenuated virus vaccines, with the difference being wider biodistribution and being able to enter every single cell type...
A nasal spray with a live “attenuated” virus allows more exposure to the general population so you’re running the risk of vaccine induced viral infections similar to what’s going on with polio vaccine in Africa.
How is it different from the virus vector or LNP-mRNA tech? Those viruses/particles infect cells as well, triggering a killing of that cell after the cells presents viral protein peptides through MHC 1*. mRNA, furthermore, can be repackaged by cells and ejected, allowing it to enter new cells. Virus vector vaccines are - of course - attenuated virus vaccines, with the difference being that the virus itself is not used as the antigen but as a carrier of a genetic (DNA) payload. I assume both adeno viruses AND LNP's can be coughed up and "infect" other persons.
But then again, I see no reason why vaccine injected into the arm muscle cannot to some extend end up in the lungs, or in the your pee or saliva or whatever.
* Some claim most LNP's will be taken up by antigen presenting cells directly, but given the total lack of evidence, I find it safe to assume a large portion gets taken up by regular cells, which cells will end up being killed (causing localised inflammation).
How delightfully Hegelian. They cause the problem, orchestrate the reaction, and then offer (which is to say order) the solution. Profit every step of the way.
We're truly blessed to have such people labouring so diligently to make the world a better place.
It's like the brilliant cartoon from The Far Side: there is a brick sitting inside a broken window with a note attached that says, "Brick thrown through your window? Call xxx-xxxx". Pretty good business model.
Reminiscent of the fire departments of 19th century New York City, who were only too happy to use arson against those who declined to become customers so as to motivate others to purchase their insurance. "Nice saloon you got here...."
I am fine with it AS LONG AS the idiots making and pushing it are also ingesting the poison themselves. That should take care of the problem in short order. If they are not, they should go directly to hell and not pass go!
It’s my opinion that the higher ups in this scheme & perhaps useful idiot politicians & so-called “celebrities” in various formats have been injected w/ normal saline - esp if they made a big to-do about preening on TV as they got it
they're saying he had struggled for 5+ years neurologically, I'm guessing the VAXX advanced it quicker! just like it's re-igniting past infections and viruses in those that it's wrecked their immunity.. Gonna be seeing ms als alzheimers shingles and a whole slew of saddness very soon. I quit drinking and started fasting 2 weeks ago, these days are too precious not to honor and support my health. I quit watching the news months ago and that has been SO helpful. Gained 20 lbs during covid BS, drinking too much wine to knock off the anxiety.
I remember a commenter asking a while ago something to the effect that if the vaccines were causing myocarditis why weren't the cardiologists shouting from the rooftops?
I replied: 'well, let me introduce you to the real world ...' . As Bret Weinstein says, whenever you think you are getting too cynical, you realize you have not been nearly cynical enough.
well, at least a few were shouting from the America's Frontline Dr's. And Peter McCullough was sued by his previous hospital Baylor Dallas for $8 million trying to shut him up "cancel" him, vilify, bully and intimidate an honest top doc...they filed the suit days before they mandated all hosp employees to get the Zombie Vaxx ...No ulterior motive here, idiot woke corporations, I hope they all go bankrupt from their own evil intentions. Get and stay healthy ppl, not gonna want to participate in our woke medical madness of group think and coercion for $$$.
Epstein's good friend, Bill the computer guy, can't go to Little St. James anymore, so he has to find some good use of his time. Why not inject billions of people with an experimental vaccine and see what happens? I don't trust Bill the computer guy.
Why not just create an aerosol that disperses, say, lipid-encapsulated droplets that they can disperse from the air over the entire world, so that everyone will be vaccinated whether they want to be or not? That seems to be the most important part of this, after all, and he wanted to do this to fight climate change, so he can use some of the same dev teams.
Since he plans on putting vaccines in all the food and drink anyway, this will let him get past the people that grow their own, which must infuriate him enough to keep him up all night stroking his pregnant belly in distress.
the chances this will become a serious policy suggestion in the next 1-5 years are vastly, vastly greater than zero. we'll just be periodically crop-dusted with the latest nasal vaxx cocktail.
Don't give this freakish warlock any more ideas. He should instead be introduced to the iron maiden, the bed of nails, the rack, and the brazen bull. In that order.
The willingly ignorant can sign up for whatever experiment they choose but I'm not taking anything daily, monthly, quarterly nor yearly when kill bill and the untrustworthy establishment are involved.
Developing nasal vaccines would be the next logical step, and in theory I am in favour as it would be a more natural entry than getting it in the deltoid with less systemic exposure. But in the current climate this idea is absolutely toxic, because it is clear that both the producers and regulators have absolutely no care for producing safe and effective products - only for inflating wallets and egos. The disdain for people during these years has been staggering and an airborne vaccine would quickly devolve into forced or unauthorised inoculations and be the final nail in the coffin for bodily autonomy. Of course Bill Gates wants it! Time for your upgrade...
Bad Boy Billy is liked a spoiled child not getting his way. His reputation has been so tarnished over the last 3 years following the VERY SORDID Epstein affair and then the dismal failure of his sponsored mRNA vaccines via WHO he will never be seen in the same light again.
With his wealth he should just be living out his final years quietly and contently not behaving like a psychopathic narcissist.
Mr. Gates is even more annoyed with Omicron. It ruined a perfectly good pandemic. “Sadly, the virus itself, particularly, the variant called omicron, is a type of vaccine, that is, it creates both B-cell and T-cell immunity, and it’s done a better job getting out to the world population than we have with vaccines,” the Microsoft co-founder said.
Maybe it would be both simpler and safer in the first place to stop funding the creation of synthetic chimeras (in this case the RaTG13 horseshoe bat virus backbone, with the MF789 sick pangolin coronavirus Receptor Binding Motif, plus a bit of HIV and a nasty Furin cleavage site thrown in for added danger), Billy-boy?! On a personal note, did you and your wealthy PlayPals play with fire as kids, or is this just a perverted adult obsession?
Before we jump off the rails into a sea of paranoia, let's keep in mind that there have been plenty of attempts beforehand to design intranasal vaccines. We have them now for the flu, and they're considered to be far more effective for their ability to provide immunity within the upper respiratory tract- something highly unlikely with intramuscular vaccines.
There are a few minor concerns that would need to be considered. The intranasal route may provide a quite route to the CNS through the finer blood-brain barrier of the olfactory bulb. This is why researchers are experimenting with intranasal routes of administration for drugs targeting the CNS. However, there are concerns of adverse reactions. We still are not sure to what extent COVID may invade the CNS through the olfactory bulb, and considering the extent of cytotoxicity elicited by the spike we would have to wonder to what extent intranasal vaccines may make their way into the CNS.
A caveat would be the use of other vectors/carriers, as lipids such as LNPs may be capable of permeating the BBB to a greater extent due to their lower ionic characteristic.
My husband is a pulmonologist and said NO vaccine given for a respiratory infection can prevent transmission because the respiratory system has its own immune system which is not activated by a shot in the arm. Such vaccines are given to protect the person, not stop transmission. This was well known long prior to Covid - "they" knew this vaccine would not stop transmission but they demonized the unvaccinated anyway. This is why there has been work on inhaled flu vaccine, and my dogs' kennel cough vaccine is also now in an inhaled form. My husband said the mRNA model does not lend itself to an inhaled form so yes, it would have to be a different type of vaccine. The concern over constant mutations would make this hard, especially considering that the mass vaccination itself drives more mutations. Perhaps it would be best for the powers that be to be honest (LOL) and admit that the elderly are always susceptible to a cold - no matter the virus - becoming pneumonia and proving the last straw.
I'm not very good with immunology- far too many numbered and lettered things that don't work well aside from rote memorization.
But from what I can tell an intramuscular vaccine will lead to the production of antigens (for these vaccines at least) which are then shuttled to a nearby lymph node by antigen presenting cells, usually under our armpits. Then adaptive immunity kicks in.
I believe the issue is that the lymphatic system is both connected but compartmentalized, and the main issue is that the lymph nodes near the upper respiratory tract are not affected by the lymph node activity occurring within the armpit. Therefore, they supposedly reduce severity but not transmission because the virus needs to move deeper into the body where properly adapted immunity can target the virus.
And I agree, I don't think the genetic material would work well since the lipids and genetic material would either degrade or may not aerosolize well.
I would disagree about the mass vaccination driving more mutations- the mutations are already there irrespective of the vaccine. But the vaccines, and really any immunity, would create a filter for escape variants to percolate through. The main issue is that these vaccines are using very porous sieves due to their selective targeting of one specific antigen.
Well I never stated that, but that these would be things to look out for with respect to intranasal vaccines. I'd rather people not immediately gloss over these vaccines and just dismiss everything, but instead interpret them and understand what issues may arise from either the different routes of administration or from different vectors being utilized.
Of course I want to snort one of the most inflammatory protein sequences known to science, with Staphylococcus Enterotoxin B inside it, DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN.
A new paper demonstrated how a live attenuated vaccines wipes the floor with all others. Who would have thought the entire virus beats a single(highly mutating) protein. Who indeed.
I don't like the sound of this nasal inhalant thingy. It sounds a bit too much like crop spraying (North By Northwest, but on whole cities for example).
For God's sake don't give the idiots more ideas . I can handle the thought of compulsory jabs- anyone tries it I will take the first of you down - then we'll take it from there.
But, just think, the whole of the earth's atmosphere regularly sprayed with the latest mrna gene therapies to rid the planet of all known pathogens. Literally no escape, but I suppose we all go down together that way, - even the RPTB.
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I can just imagine how many peoples sense of smell might be destroyed by those nasal vaccines. I'm not sure Bill Gates was behind the massive live oral polio vaccination campaign in India and Africa, but in India between 2000 and 2017 there were 491,000 cases of so-called Non-Polio Acute Faccid Paralysis. The theory is that the the oral polio vaccine upsets the enterovirus balance in the gut, allowing other enteroviruses to emerge which have similar paralytic effects as polio. Of course that's a convenient theory to circumvent the idea that it's actually the vaccine virus that is causing the paralysis, which is probably the case, even if it isn't contagious.
I corrected a couple of dictation typos--it should be... vaccination campaign, not campaigning, and the time period should be between 2000 and 2017, not 2002 and 2017.
To be clear: A non-mRNA nasal vaxx approach is probably preferable in many ways to our current vaccine repertoire, at least for the sick and vulnerable. But, people have been making this point for a long time and nobody has really given a shit until this moment. Also too: In keeping with the rule that measures are only ever added, never withdrawn, the Iwasaki nasal spray is envisioned only as a booster. You still have to get mRNA vaxxed (or, "primed" as the preprint calls it: a further demotion for the vaccinated). And, it sounds a lot like they'll be wanting you to snort spike at regular intervals indefinitely, which is very unlikely to be a good idea.
If they can create a nasal spray, would not the next logical step be to send it out in crop dusters and just spray down whole regions?
maybe i should get an n95 after all...
That's the dream. They're also trying to vax us through food, like lettuce. Another reason to stick to the 3 major food groups: fat, sugar and salt.
😂🤣😂🤣 Sounds good to me!
I just thought the same thing. And that’s exactly what they’ll do. I’m sure the bio weapon geniuses have already invented this.
Out in nature, fickle wind would disperse it before the subjects could inhale enough to be effective. But it's feasible that the vaccinators might try to introduce it into the ventilation systems of public buildings.
or subway tunnels
I didn't see your comment until just now. Great minds think alike.
I wonder when I see the chem trails, I mean con trails, all over the skies what it is we're being tested for or "protected" from.
Easy..they are just contrails...Imagine if ground crews on public listed companies, whilst working on the planes..ALL MISSED the spraying devices fitted to the planes..for the last 40 years...(or are "they" in on the whole thing to?)wow..so thats out..which leaves you with secret squirrel planes doing it...to wreck people health..even though the public do that with diet without requiring any "sprays"...
Please don't mention stuff like "chemtrails" here. This drags down a wonderful community into the realms of rabid, deranged conspiracy theorists. Chemtrails are really one of the more idiotic conspiracy theories.
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if their primary goal is to kill us, that will be done, no doubt. If their goal is profit and control, that method is not ideal.
the problem is these people greatly overestimate their competence
They all need to be punched in the face. Repeatedly.
I myself have repeated visions of whacking all of them over the head with a 2x4.
And furthermore, they reject competent criticism of their plans or methods, especially if it exposes a flaw.
I know someone who manages clinical trials for Pfizer. She is currently working on mRNA vaxxines for the flu, pneumonia and shingles. They let the mRNA genie out of the bottle, and it will never go back in, regardless if it works or not.
I think it was the CEO of Pfizer who gave a speech bragging that the pandemic response had normalized a class of therapies that would otherwise have been a very hard sell.
That's a big driver here. Imagine the money that can be made if 'vaccines' can be pumped out on a monthly basis with little or no testing. Especially if they're use is made mandatory.
Bonus points if the treatments critically injure people who then need to purchase additional medical services.
And now said friend is kind of p*ssed off because for the flu/pneumonia/shingles mRNA studies, the FDA has returned to the old formula of lots of studies over a long time. Which, in her opinion, makes life so much harder and stops life saving therapies from getting to the public in a timely manner.
Nope, they're still fraudulent studies, so she can relax! They game the placebo to make the adverse event rates look similar in both populations!
I agree between malfeasance, lab mistakes and paper based data and subject manipulation, it seems a waste of time for further analysis of the CTrials. It is clear the product is a unsafe from all world adverse reporting systems.
exactly the wrong sort of personality to be involved in medical research/studies.
good point. Like medical personnel who thought it was too much work to switch out needles from patient to patient. Example: those nuns who started the first ebola epidemic in a newborn ward
That's frighteningly delusional
Oh, I know. And if you ask her about things like unblinding the original C0VID studies, her response is "they HAD to unblind and give the vaxxines, because people would have died otherwise." If you point out issues in any of the clinical studies, her response is either "this person doesn't know what they're talking about and are harming the medical world by discouraging people from participating" or "this person is attacking the C0VID vaxxine to gain publicity and is not helpful, because there are NO OTHER ways to stop C0VID outside of vaxxines."
Which is why we rarely speak about her job.
Anecdotally, her son has "long C0VID;" I suspect he is vaxx injured.
she is just dying to poison us! This is your friend? If anyone needs to be social distanced...
Not only did they normalize pharmaceutical products being released with basically no testing but also forcing those products on whole populations with perpetual EUAs.
“We are really taking that leap [to drive innovation] – us as a company, Bayer – in cell and gene therapies … ultimately the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy. I always like to say: if we had surveyed two years ago in the public – ‘would you be willing to take a gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body?’ – we probably would have had a 95% refusal rate,”
Stefan Oelrich
Bayer
https://youtu.be/OJFKBritLlc?t=5851
yeah. Pfizer has permanent customers with heart problems now
How conveeeeenient, as Dana Carvey's Church Lady would say.
Shiny new mRNA hammer in search of nails.
perfectly put.
If I ever come across such a person, I will not hold back my contempt and anger, no matter the social situation.
despite the evident dangers
In her opinion, the risk of dying of c0vid is much greater than any miniscule risk from the vaxxine.
Coof doesn't spread throughout the entire body killing off completely random cells...
Like chemotherapy. Oh wait the covid shots are failed cancer treatments repurposed to healthy people for fun and money!
The exposure to future lawsuits will support an entire generation of plaintiffs' attorneys.
except they aren't liable
But people who administer the vxx without dilution/wrong dosage might be NEGLIGENT.
Lucky us.
And I read yesterday that some folks at the U of Colorado are studying if these jabs shed—and it seems they do. More work needed, of course. And some kind of review yet to be done of their work, but…. Totally scary that we may be exposed to the spike protein via shedding, etc. Masks do trap some—but that means that the masked are breathing back their own toxins into their lungs. The work was done on masks people wore for one day.
Early on FauXi admitted to spike shedding from the clot shots
Please, stop with this "shedding" nonsense. All kinds of cell surface proteins, receptors, growth factors, adhesion molecules are constantly shed into the bloodstream or the extracellular environment. They will not be expelled with air from your lungs in any meaningful amount. And even if they did, what would a few nanogram of shed Spike protein do? Nothing, obviously. It can't even do its job if it is not anchored into the viral membrane. Also, all of us have been infected with various coronaviruses, so we all got a good dose of spike protein. The hysteria around a protein is as ridiculous as the Covid hysteria itself. It is a protein with a defined function, not a prion like toxin that can harm you in small amounts.
You are shooting the messenger. I suggest you take up your complaint with the folks in Colorado doing this research. Or at least read what they are finding. They, as I recall, did not limit to the spike protein. There was, it seems, a theory that shedding of toxins from lungs was not possible due to the jabs not being “live.” But that theory did not account for the spikes, the other proteins, etc., made by one’s body after the jabs. There was a beneficial side possible here—in that some sort of passive herd immunity might form. More work needs to be done.
the very idea of pieces of varicella virus being shed by people all over the place...
I doubt that these will be bestsellers. Way too harsh in the side effect profile. I felt absolutely awful after my second Moderna shot, I would never ever consider an mRNA based flu shot. I never had an infection that made me feel as bad as this "vaccine".
p.s.: In fact, I don't get any flu shots. Just the really important stuff like tetanus shots.
Their marketing department sucks. They should really just package it with cocaine.
at least I'd be happy;
tho guberment cocaine probably sux
new and improved with soy and corn solids
They would outsource it to big pharma. Sandoz used to make it, I think Mallinckrodt still does.
Rather trust the cartels any day
Or put it in Bud Light. That will teach the MAGA Red Hats here in the south.
Corona (ha!) out here in the Southwest!
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People drinking stuff like Bud Light deserve to be vaccinated on a daily basis. Vile stuff.
Can I have mine coming with Oxycodone? Cocaine makes me nervous, especially if it comes with an untested vaccine.
ha! Oxycodone doesn't sound like fun but neither do any vaxxine
There is no reason for any of us to trust ANYTHING these demons create in record time after what’s been done to & forced on us the past 2+ years, especially if Gates-From-Hell, WHO, CDC, FDA, WEF, our illustrious global elites are all in for it
Why a vaccine at all? You can get nasal sprays that will deal with everything. No need for a vaccine. Simple salt water has been a remedy in my family for decades. ALWAYS works and yes, I take a little into my nose and blow it out in addition to gargling with it.
One of the best ways to do this is get a little warm salt water cupped in your hand, raise it to your face and cup it against the base of your nose, pressing one nostril closed and gently tipping your head back and slowly and gently drawing a little of the water into the open nostril. It will not be at all uncomfortable if done like this and you can clean your nose one nostril at a time very well with successive tries, to the point where the water will painlessly trickle all the way thru the channel that comes into the back of your throat and allow that passageway to be rinsed clear. In Yoga this technique is called Neti and it is very easy.
like Neti pot?
Yes, the Diogenes version…your hand is the cup.
I like that. Stoic, self-sufficient. Just learned something. Thank you.
🙏happy snorting!🤓
True. Totally helps better than chemicals. However, the imagery from your description is haunting me.
Very sorry. The last thing I want to do is traumatize someone with a description!
Ohhh. No! Was just joking. Everyone has had a cold at some point in life.
💕 Not a snowflake here. Also a firm believer in salt water in dealing with the hundreds of coronaviruses.
Sometime in 2020 I read about research into a nasal vaccine. Unfortunately I did not save the reference. But you're correct that a nasal vaccine would be more effective than the one we use now. "Effective", of course, being the operative word.
What would be the worst case if we stopped vaccinating altogether? Which vaccines are truly MUST have?
None. During thousands or however many years of human history how long have we been letting psychopaths inject us with random poisons and floor sweepings dumped into vats (I wish I was exaggerating, but it does seem that bad, actually.)? Do we like the results of the last 100 or so years of this madness? Did primitive man wander around the plains looking for his asthma inhaler? Did he think it wise to take 50 of his tribe's progeny and let venomous snakes bite them and another 50 and keep them safe to determine if snake bites produced "health"? Vaccines do produce mental retardation (autism and developmental disorders) and I can prove it from a reference to a text from the 1960s. On page 16 of this reference you can find the truth: https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/DSM-II.pdf
I have a vaccine injured son. I def blame the MMR. The difference was sudden and dramatic.
NONE…and there would be no child autism. Rockefeller did a real number on us all!
I haven't come this far as a Canuck refusenik to bend over and become a Spike Snorter.
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No. A ‘non-mRNA nasal vaxx approach’ is NOT probably preferable. All of this stuff is evil, unnecessary bullshit.
Absolutely agree. A vaccine has never previously been proposed as the response to a global novel respiratory pandemic. In the case of seasonal flu, unfortunately they don’t work well in the very demographic you’d want to protect, the elderly & infirm, because their immune systems are senescent (which is why they’re vulnerable in the first place).
Frankly, after all that we’ve learned, I’m flummoxed as to why anyone would even consider getting any type of experimental injection. Or, for that matter, even the other vaccines (pneumonia, flu, you name it). I think folks are brainwashed via marketing & propaganda to believe they’re necessary. I don’t believe in ANY of them any more.
Sounds like a horrible idea to me. Indefinite “boosts” rather than say, oh, maybe trying to live a healthy life!! Wow. Just, effing WOW.
Another Side of the Story, Thats what’s been diabolical all this time: instead of caring about “public health” by promoting relevant vitamins & minerals, cheap therapeutics, exercise, losing weight, mitigating comorbidities, living our lives, fresh air…they promoted everything to make us physically & mentally ill - lockdowns, masks, detention, phony treatments that killed, isolation, all of which led to gaining weight, eating/drinking/ingesting too much, depression & anxiety, loneliness & feeling that we were going nuts, & major issues of anger &/or despair
Yes!!
BOOM!!!!💥
and all that produced a mass murderer this week
Open more gyms. Close more McDonalds.
OK, so there's a BETADINE nasal spray on Amazon that purportedly kills 99% of virus and AFAIK does not stand a chance of negatively affecting one's immune system.
I mean, even the best vaccine is doing *something* to affect your immune system, hopefully in a good way but every single medication has some amount of side effects.
It would have to beat the performance of that BETADINE spray or what's the point outside of enriching billionaires?
The publications for providone iodine rinses are available on c19early.com
I searched on iodine and found "Combined Nasal, Oropharyngeal Povidone Iodine Plus Glycyrrhizic Acid Sprays, Accelerate Clinical and Laboratory Recovery and Reduces Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: A Randomized Placebo-Controlled Clinical Trial
Elsersy et al., Frontiers in Medicine, doi:10.3389/fmed.2022.863917"
Which actually has very impressive results listed in the table:
Hospitalization: 91% improvement
Viral Clearance: 90% improvement
Transmission: 92% improvement
Transmission(b): 94% improvement
All categories favor providone-iodine. Heck, I never even knew that. I primarily use Chinese herbs and haven't struggled with covid one bit. I had it once and went through it relatively easily.
Empower people who are receptive
About this spray if they're hyperthyroid they might consider dilute hydrogen peroxide rinses. Check out cofixrx product otc.
I don't see a publication for iodine rinses, I see a "real-time analysis of 1,792 studies".
https://c19pvpi.com. there were two studies I read done with health care workers in Bangladesh and another one in India. McCullough sites studies for this preventative as well.
Good to know! Thanks.
It’s already added to your fillings & toothpaste.
Well, so long as it’s stable to toothpaste.
what is? 😳
I think risky too. Nasal delivery shortcut to the brain. I hate to ask because we have evolved with corona virus exposures, although perhaps not lab-made ones like c19, have any nasal delivery/animal trials been done?
Wouldn't an mRNA or DNA vector virus based nasal spray just cause pneumonia? Since all cells these vaccines enter into will be killed by T-cells, which causes local inflammation.
That being said, I guess pneumonia is preferable to myocarditis. However, LNP's or adeno viruses entering the lungs can probably still enter the bloodstream from there so idk if the biodistribution profile will be safer.
and, as we keeping finding with this past two years of f*ckery, it doesn't actually make sense to do it
I’m concerned about using a live attenuated virus. Sometimes recombination occurs and it ends up being an infective virus.
mRNA vaccines work almost the same as attenuated virus vaccines, with the difference being wider biodistribution and being able to enter every single cell type...
A nasal spray with a live “attenuated” virus allows more exposure to the general population so you’re running the risk of vaccine induced viral infections similar to what’s going on with polio vaccine in Africa.
How is it different from the virus vector or LNP-mRNA tech? Those viruses/particles infect cells as well, triggering a killing of that cell after the cells presents viral protein peptides through MHC 1*. mRNA, furthermore, can be repackaged by cells and ejected, allowing it to enter new cells. Virus vector vaccines are - of course - attenuated virus vaccines, with the difference being that the virus itself is not used as the antigen but as a carrier of a genetic (DNA) payload. I assume both adeno viruses AND LNP's can be coughed up and "infect" other persons.
But then again, I see no reason why vaccine injected into the arm muscle cannot to some extend end up in the lungs, or in the your pee or saliva or whatever.
* Some claim most LNP's will be taken up by antigen presenting cells directly, but given the total lack of evidence, I find it safe to assume a large portion gets taken up by regular cells, which cells will end up being killed (causing localised inflammation).
what's going on with the polio vax in Africa?
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/04/who-forced-to-admit-gates-funded-vaccine-is-causing-polio-outbreak-in-africa/
How delightfully Hegelian. They cause the problem, orchestrate the reaction, and then offer (which is to say order) the solution. Profit every step of the way.
We're truly blessed to have such people labouring so diligently to make the world a better place.
It's like the brilliant cartoon from The Far Side: there is a brick sitting inside a broken window with a note attached that says, "Brick thrown through your window? Call xxx-xxxx". Pretty good business model.
Reminiscent of the fire departments of 19th century New York City, who were only too happy to use arson against those who declined to become customers so as to motivate others to purchase their insurance. "Nice saloon you got here...."
I am fine with it AS LONG AS the idiots making and pushing it are also ingesting the poison themselves. That should take care of the problem in short order. If they are not, they should go directly to hell and not pass go!
It’s my opinion that the higher ups in this scheme & perhaps useful idiot politicians & so-called “celebrities” in various formats have been injected w/ normal saline - esp if they made a big to-do about preening on TV as they got it
Except, sadly, Bruce Willis and all those other celebs whose families may have gone properly mad, not seeing any connection.
they're saying he had struggled for 5+ years neurologically, I'm guessing the VAXX advanced it quicker! just like it's re-igniting past infections and viruses in those that it's wrecked their immunity.. Gonna be seeing ms als alzheimers shingles and a whole slew of saddness very soon. I quit drinking and started fasting 2 weeks ago, these days are too precious not to honor and support my health. I quit watching the news months ago and that has been SO helpful. Gained 20 lbs during covid BS, drinking too much wine to knock off the anxiety.
You are a hero to your family! Awesome report!
and there are those videos of govt officials faking the shot obviously
I can't imagine they took it. You know who THEY would include
They're building the world in their own image. Sick and rotten to the core.
I remember a commenter asking a while ago something to the effect that if the vaccines were causing myocarditis why weren't the cardiologists shouting from the rooftops?
I replied: 'well, let me introduce you to the real world ...' . As Bret Weinstein says, whenever you think you are getting too cynical, you realize you have not been nearly cynical enough.
well, at least a few were shouting from the America's Frontline Dr's. And Peter McCullough was sued by his previous hospital Baylor Dallas for $8 million trying to shut him up "cancel" him, vilify, bully and intimidate an honest top doc...they filed the suit days before they mandated all hosp employees to get the Zombie Vaxx ...No ulterior motive here, idiot woke corporations, I hope they all go bankrupt from their own evil intentions. Get and stay healthy ppl, not gonna want to participate in our woke medical madness of group think and coercion for $$$.
Epstein's good friend, Bill the computer guy, can't go to Little St. James anymore, so he has to find some good use of his time. Why not inject billions of people with an experimental vaccine and see what happens? I don't trust Bill the computer guy.
Anything Gates is for, I don't even need to look into it, I know it's bad for humanity.
Why not just create an aerosol that disperses, say, lipid-encapsulated droplets that they can disperse from the air over the entire world, so that everyone will be vaccinated whether they want to be or not? That seems to be the most important part of this, after all, and he wanted to do this to fight climate change, so he can use some of the same dev teams.
Since he plans on putting vaccines in all the food and drink anyway, this will let him get past the people that grow their own, which must infuriate him enough to keep him up all night stroking his pregnant belly in distress.
the chances this will become a serious policy suggestion in the next 1-5 years are vastly, vastly greater than zero. we'll just be periodically crop-dusted with the latest nasal vaxx cocktail.
Oh, believe me, I wasn't being phantasmagorical.
I've been pretty sure for years now, since Gates first talked about seeding clouds way back when, that this is how it all ends.
"Nuclear-grade charitable benevolence".
but but wouldn't someone just sneezing the particular coronovirus do it better, I mean inoculating the population near them?
Better yet, make those lipid particles reflective so that they cool the planet while vaccinating the populace. A twofer!
You mean something like 'chemtrails?"
Yeah, sure, let's say that's what I mean.
Don't give this freakish warlock any more ideas. He should instead be introduced to the iron maiden, the bed of nails, the rack, and the brazen bull. In that order.
I'm sure the people who are getting repeat shingles break outs from the boosters already feel that torture would be appropriate
Luckily for us, such a scheme is not practical. The earth's atmosphere is (way) too big.
The insanity is real. It only stops if we make it stop.
The willingly ignorant can sign up for whatever experiment they choose but I'm not taking anything daily, monthly, quarterly nor yearly when kill bill and the untrustworthy establishment are involved.
Two mice walk into a pub/bar. The first one orders couple o' pints.
The other one scurries up to the bar stool and asks her friend,
Minnie: "So, have you had your booster yet?"
Mickie: "Nope, I'm waitin' for the human trial results to be published."
(I posted this comment last Summer on our taxpayer-sponsored news service, so it was censored, of course).
lol this is great.
Developing nasal vaccines would be the next logical step, and in theory I am in favour as it would be a more natural entry than getting it in the deltoid with less systemic exposure. But in the current climate this idea is absolutely toxic, because it is clear that both the producers and regulators have absolutely no care for producing safe and effective products - only for inflating wallets and egos. The disdain for people during these years has been staggering and an airborne vaccine would quickly devolve into forced or unauthorised inoculations and be the final nail in the coffin for bodily autonomy. Of course Bill Gates wants it! Time for your upgrade...
or just have someone sneeze on you
Harma and gov. used their citizens as subjects to try to prove to the world their product was the best and get more orders.
How long until they think it is an okay thing to crop dust crowds with whatever "vaxxeens" or chemicals "for their own good."?
"How long until" is already in the rearview mirror, by my estimate...
Bad Boy Billy is liked a spoiled child not getting his way. His reputation has been so tarnished over the last 3 years following the VERY SORDID Epstein affair and then the dismal failure of his sponsored mRNA vaccines via WHO he will never be seen in the same light again.
With his wealth he should just be living out his final years quietly and contently not behaving like a psychopathic narcissist.
Along with the rest of his billionaire cohorts who have nothing better to do than meddle in world affairs. It's disgusting.
Not to mention the hushed failures of vax cine trials in India and Africa. Hpv and polio ect.. see highwire podcast
Mr. Gates is even more annoyed with Omicron. It ruined a perfectly good pandemic. “Sadly, the virus itself, particularly, the variant called omicron, is a type of vaccine, that is, it creates both B-cell and T-cell immunity, and it’s done a better job getting out to the world population than we have with vaccines,” the Microsoft co-founder said.
He actually said it?
Direct quote.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bill-gates-omicron-did-a-better-job-moving-faster-than-covid-19-vaccines?_amp=true
Maybe it would be both simpler and safer in the first place to stop funding the creation of synthetic chimeras (in this case the RaTG13 horseshoe bat virus backbone, with the MF789 sick pangolin coronavirus Receptor Binding Motif, plus a bit of HIV and a nasty Furin cleavage site thrown in for added danger), Billy-boy?! On a personal note, did you and your wealthy PlayPals play with fire as kids, or is this just a perverted adult obsession?
Before we jump off the rails into a sea of paranoia, let's keep in mind that there have been plenty of attempts beforehand to design intranasal vaccines. We have them now for the flu, and they're considered to be far more effective for their ability to provide immunity within the upper respiratory tract- something highly unlikely with intramuscular vaccines.
There are a few minor concerns that would need to be considered. The intranasal route may provide a quite route to the CNS through the finer blood-brain barrier of the olfactory bulb. This is why researchers are experimenting with intranasal routes of administration for drugs targeting the CNS. However, there are concerns of adverse reactions. We still are not sure to what extent COVID may invade the CNS through the olfactory bulb, and considering the extent of cytotoxicity elicited by the spike we would have to wonder to what extent intranasal vaccines may make their way into the CNS.
A caveat would be the use of other vectors/carriers, as lipids such as LNPs may be capable of permeating the BBB to a greater extent due to their lower ionic characteristic.
My husband is a pulmonologist and said NO vaccine given for a respiratory infection can prevent transmission because the respiratory system has its own immune system which is not activated by a shot in the arm. Such vaccines are given to protect the person, not stop transmission. This was well known long prior to Covid - "they" knew this vaccine would not stop transmission but they demonized the unvaccinated anyway. This is why there has been work on inhaled flu vaccine, and my dogs' kennel cough vaccine is also now in an inhaled form. My husband said the mRNA model does not lend itself to an inhaled form so yes, it would have to be a different type of vaccine. The concern over constant mutations would make this hard, especially considering that the mass vaccination itself drives more mutations. Perhaps it would be best for the powers that be to be honest (LOL) and admit that the elderly are always susceptible to a cold - no matter the virus - becoming pneumonia and proving the last straw.
I'm not very good with immunology- far too many numbered and lettered things that don't work well aside from rote memorization.
But from what I can tell an intramuscular vaccine will lead to the production of antigens (for these vaccines at least) which are then shuttled to a nearby lymph node by antigen presenting cells, usually under our armpits. Then adaptive immunity kicks in.
I believe the issue is that the lymphatic system is both connected but compartmentalized, and the main issue is that the lymph nodes near the upper respiratory tract are not affected by the lymph node activity occurring within the armpit. Therefore, they supposedly reduce severity but not transmission because the virus needs to move deeper into the body where properly adapted immunity can target the virus.
And I agree, I don't think the genetic material would work well since the lipids and genetic material would either degrade or may not aerosolize well.
I would disagree about the mass vaccination driving more mutations- the mutations are already there irrespective of the vaccine. But the vaccines, and really any immunity, would create a filter for escape variants to percolate through. The main issue is that these vaccines are using very porous sieves due to their selective targeting of one specific antigen.
learned something and enjoyed the LOL part. Thank you!
If it was easy to create a nasal spray for a coronavirus, wouldn't it have been done years ago?
Well that would be predicated on the idea that it would have been easy to create a coronavirus vaccine period, which has not been the case.
We need less circulating spike, not more. Chemoprophylaxis.
So you're thinking issues of safety might constrain development. Facts not in evidence!
Well I never stated that, but that these would be things to look out for with respect to intranasal vaccines. I'd rather people not immediately gloss over these vaccines and just dismiss everything, but instead interpret them and understand what issues may arise from either the different routes of administration or from different vectors being utilized.
I kinda just said that too but you said it first! great minds
Of course I want to snort one of the most inflammatory protein sequences known to science, with Staphylococcus Enterotoxin B inside it, DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN.
A new paper demonstrated how a live attenuated vaccines wipes the floor with all others. Who would have thought the entire virus beats a single(highly mutating) protein. Who indeed.
I don't like the sound of this nasal inhalant thingy. It sounds a bit too much like crop spraying (North By Northwest, but on whole cities for example).
For God's sake don't give the idiots more ideas . I can handle the thought of compulsory jabs- anyone tries it I will take the first of you down - then we'll take it from there.
But, just think, the whole of the earth's atmosphere regularly sprayed with the latest mrna gene therapies to rid the planet of all known pathogens. Literally no escape, but I suppose we all go down together that way, - even the RPTB.
I can just imagine how many peoples sense of smell might be destroyed by those nasal vaccines. I'm not sure Bill Gates was behind the massive live oral polio vaccination campaign in India and Africa, but in India between 2000 and 2017 there were 491,000 cases of so-called Non-Polio Acute Faccid Paralysis. The theory is that the the oral polio vaccine upsets the enterovirus balance in the gut, allowing other enteroviruses to emerge which have similar paralytic effects as polio. Of course that's a convenient theory to circumvent the idea that it's actually the vaccine virus that is causing the paralysis, which is probably the case, even if it isn't contagious.
I corrected a couple of dictation typos--it should be... vaccination campaign, not campaigning, and the time period should be between 2000 and 2017, not 2002 and 2017.