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eugyppius's avatar

According to me, two of the three Vierhaus accusations (the "drought in the head" one and the "snitch" one) really, really stretch the definition of insult. We're getting to a place, where mere negative or vituperative commentary directed against the politically protected classes can land you in court, it's insane.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Everything else is getting redefined, so I wouldn't be surprised if "insult" now means "anything short of fulsome praise".

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Viv's avatar

All you have to do to get dragged out, taken to the gulag, and shot once you are no longer fit for forced labour, is to be the first to stop applauding Stalin.

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CMCM's avatar

This is nudging people towards accepting that even NOT commenting is criminal. Support is required. Think of the the Chinese sitting in the room with Xi. They clap dutifully like trained seals at everything Xi says.

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Rosemary B's avatar

yes. disgusting. wow

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

Yes, but at least Xi is not destroying his country as the German political cabal is doing.

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Danielle's avatar

I suspect that he is, however that sort of information rarely escapes China. Far tighter controls.

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Rikard's avatar

I thought we passed that in 2005 or so?

I have anecdotes about that, from teacher-conferences, when some bespectacled harridan would just stay on stage and prolong a meeting until she ot her applause.

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Jeff's avatar

That will arrive shortly

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

People always ask; how can this be happening?

Well Solzhenitsyn identified it 80 years ago:

"Your punishment for having a knife when they searched you would be very different from the thief's.

For him to have a knife was mere misbehavior, tradition, he didn't know any better. But for you to have one was 'terrorism'."

Laws aren't designed, and enforced, to protect the citizens, they're designed, and enforced, to protect the lawmakers. Thieves carrying knives aren't a threat to lawmakers living in gated communities, but potentially revolutionary citizens carrying knives.

#Germany2025

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Cynthia M's avatar

The same goes for "hate." Anything less than full approval of any behavior or words someone utters is full on hate. If you don't like someone, you automatically hate them.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

In effect, Antifa do this - the game is 'I'm correct, and everyone else follows or else'. The game has to change constantly because only a few know the correct code at any point, and belittling others who don't follow is a way of establishing power.

Of course this infantile game concludes with nobody free from being belittled.

See revolutions.

Not one worked.

Each time it cascaded into other revolutions where a whole bunch of other people developed parallel stories - all with the same purpose, to take and keep power.

Hope Not Hate is a false charity run by UK ex-Labour Party types.

It represents the exact opposite - it hates everyone and offers no hope at all.

Antifa.....

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

To hate what one identifies as hateful is a human right. Do not those German bien pensants hate Putin?

Or is there allowed hate and not allowed hate?

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John Watkinson's avatar

Yes beyond insane.How did we get this low? (Wanders off shaking head).

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

With weak morals and weak government.

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Epaminondas's avatar

I only wish it was insanity. The best case scenario is that the proponents of these laws are incredibly stupid and can't see where this is headed. The worst case scenario, of course, is that they know exactly what they are doing.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It only took the Nazis 6 years after the Nuremberg laws were passed for them to go from a policy of exclusion to extermination.

People don't think it can happen again. I beg to differ. The Nazi ideology was just an extension of the dark side of the human condition.

The signs are ominous imo. Just wait until they get a legal definition of "right wing extremists". At that point they can come up with progressively more exclusionary laws. It was only after 1935, after Jew was legally defined, that the rest of the laws were predicated on the definition.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

There is talk of classifying racism, sexism and homophobia as mental illnesses. One of the first groups to sign up for the Nazi claptrap were the medical profession. So they'll be no help to stop such things.

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Ernest Judd's avatar

What?

Jews are not IllegaL?

In Europe, virtually ALL the Jews are NOT SEMITES.

They are imposters merely committing fraud against the German Govmnt for forcing lies and gaslighting upon the people.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Reread my comment and then go look at the Nuremberg laws.

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Fager 132's avatar

They know. Mistakes of that size are not made innocently.

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erin's avatar

It's targeted humiliation.

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Mike Williams's avatar

Hanlons Razor...they don`t know or understand or care where this all leads.

And are not very bright as individuals and even less so as groups..

Which explains why so many western govts/universities are all following the same game plan.

People want simple answers "they all know"..which requires sentience and communicating the "plans" to other countries..for the last 30 years.Zero evidence of course.

Thats why the far more dangerous and insidious answer is..group think disguised by language all marching along sprouting Orwellian "good intentions".

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Actually, somewhat worse than "insanity".

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

It not insane. It is dictatorship.

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M. York's avatar

Dummheit, Tyrannei und Feigheit fuer das Deutsche Vaterland 🎶

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Clay's avatar

The truth is insulting.

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Danielle's avatar

And still, no-one actually GIVES offense. It must be TAKEN.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Rudat is a hero. Since it’s 2025 Germany, he will likely be punished while the migrants walk free. US State Department should liberate Europe from nincompoops and snitches.

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Mitch's avatar

The US should let the German people liberate themselves this time. Freedom isn't free and the US shouldn't have to solve everybody else's problems. If we're going to use our blood and treasure, let's "liberate" Canada first. They've got a lot of natural resources.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

German people need yo experience max pain, whatever that is. Intervention simply enables the slow agony. USA needs to stop being interventionist and start focusing on our own problems.

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Rosemary B's avatar

1000%

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nought's avatar

The US State Department has “liberated” Germany enough as is.

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SCA's avatar

I was pregnant with my child when the Berlin Wall came down and I thought that meant he was going to be born into a world getting better for everyone. I was so happy.

And here I am knowing now that we managed to fuck up the world for our kids in ways we couldn't imagine. Well, we could imagine, couldn't we? History coming around again and kicking us in the throat.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Well, the big scale stuff looks grim.

But.

We all have to do our best, and as this entire substack shows, there are many good people out there. Not everything is as bleak as MSM would like us to think.

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SCA's avatar
5hEdited

Yes, I know. But still normal parents want our children's lives to be good ones in every respect. It gets a little tiring, seeing the same battles needing to be fought for--what is it now--a trillion generations already?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

🤔 I’m starting to think there is something to “human nature.” Also, Cain and Abel. Also, “eternal vigilance” we were warned about. Or my personal favorite….

“Evil (like rust) never sleeps.”

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baker charlie's avatar

I was pregnant about the same time. Had so much hope my kid wasn't going to grow up with the constant threat of nuclear annihilation looming over them like it had for my cohort.

Gods, I was a hopeful little fool...

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SCA's avatar

I wonder how many in the readership had the same experience. I remember it perfectly. Sitting at my dining room table looking across to the TV in the living room and seeing that remarkable moment as the wall started to be torn down.

I'd been in sixth grade when there were those internationally-publicized shootings of desperate attempted escapees by the East German guards and at least two of us in the classroom wrote (pretty lousy) short stories around the theme.

So yes--we had so much hope for our children's futures...

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Who are “we?” 😂

I for one did not vote for the dementia patient nor did I willingly further the actions of the Faucist.

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CS's avatar

I've never read it, but I believe Barbara Tuchman's "The March of Folly" explores extensively this notion: "History coming around again and kicking us in the throat."

And you'll remember the absurdly titled 1990's tome "The Last Man and the End of History."

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SCA's avatar

You don't want to get me started on professional intellectuals.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Eugyppius, I hope the German authorities are hugely embarrassed by the publicity given to the attack on this courageous young American, but I fear they may be too busy directing their energies towards the more important crime of policing internet insults.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Chancellor Merz is rather excited to be on the next train to Kyivvv. He had a lot of fun on that train recently. His friend 'little' Napoleon Macron and 'weak link' Starmer KC joined in. Oh what fun. Toot! Toot!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Like a weekend at Bernie’s with coke.

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Danielle's avatar

😂 Nah, a Weekend at Bernie’s would require Biden present.

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Bill Beeby's avatar

Germany and the UK are moving in tandem towards utter defeat of their people from within their own states / governments .

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Vivian Evans's avatar

Amazing, isn't it, how granny-lefty politicians especially think they're practically gods and goddesses and any sort of verbal put-downs like these reported above are blasphemous and need to be stamped out. At the same time, they don't mind at all when migrants not only attack native Germans - 'Bio-Deutsche' - verbally like calling them 'kartoffel' (potato) and such, but also physically with knives, because 'it's their culture'.

Here's a nice thought experiment: what would this Green politician say if a migrant called her 'kartoffel' in public?

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Wendy Llewellyn's avatar

I don’t like it at all and it should not be happening but I’m grateful to be aware of this and sadly massive amounts of treason across EU and UK

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Pat Robinson's avatar

What is needed is another speech by Vance, at a very public european forum, calling out these particular speech issues and state that unless this stops the USA is going to stop any pretense of defending Europe.

There is no right not to be insulted, when you are provably a nincompoop.

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Nicholas's avatar

I'm sure Donald Trump has been repeatedly insulted in German media. Could he sue under the law used by German politicians? If it could only be availed of by German politicians, that would be discriminatory, and as we all know, discrimination is Double-Plus Ungood.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

He knows he’s being insulted in German media. Always has been. Remember the journalist with the big hair who laughed at Trump for his warnings on over-reliance upon Russian fuels??? That did not age well.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

There are allowed insults and allowed hate: Putin, Trump, Vance, Xi, comming soon, Modi, Lula, all Iranians and Venezuelans except Guaidó.

The rest is civil blasphemy.

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marlon1492's avatar

Thanks for the new article as well as the update on Rudat. I have no idea what the German broadcaster said, but Rudat struck me as a salt of the earth mid-Westerner. Nice man who has been raised to help those around him .

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Rikard's avatar

In Sweden, such remarks if made against a government official in the execution of their duty are punsihable by up to six months in prison, effective from 2nd of July this year.

And the way our laws work, if I was to give hypothetical and fictitious example, it could count as criminal speech anyway, if the prosecutor convinces the court that it is so.

Since Swedish courts are manned by 1-3 judes (dep. on the size and scope of the case) "advised" by 3-5 politicians and the court votes on the verdict. . . you can guess the rest, yes?

The pilot-case is up in court soon. A man walked up to police at Arlanda Airport and said a verse from an old childrens' rhyme (in English: "police, police, potato-pig"; i.e. someone who roots out stuff where's he's not invited to be), which caused one police to grab the man's arm. The man then had the temerity to "tense his arm in a manner perceived as threatening" and was arrested.

In more positive news, the artist Dan Park was released from prison a couple of weeks early, having served his second prison sentence for his art.

And of course, there's that law that makes reporting on things that miht give foreigners a negative opinion of Sweden a crime too: although it is intended for inciting terrorism and to curb espionage disguised as journalism, we all know that a law means what the men with the guns decides it to mean.

Use the 2nd to defend the 1st, Americans, because otherwise you'll lose it all - and quickly too.

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Rikard's avatar

Right. Spelling-errors that are hilarious, maybe. Our courts are manned by 1-3 /judges/, not judes!

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: Use the 2nd to defend the 1st, Americans, because otherwise you'll lose it all - and quickly too.

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The Second Amendment is the BODYGUARD of the First, and of all other Amendments and rights.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'the worst Economics Minister Germany has ever had'

You mean 💩?

😆

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Firstly - John Rudat is a very good man.

Secondly - the fine is back to front.

The economist is owed €16100 from the pseudo politician (plus interest at 10% per minute, compound), €32200 from the 'student' (plus interest at 5% per hour, compound) and €1.61 million from the self important pseudo journalist - on the grounds his / her / zey 'reach is bigger, and so much more is owed.

This barely begins to address the deep damage done by libtards.

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Riri's avatar
6hEdited

What a based economist and from Düsseldorf of all places. These thin skinned nincompoops are so tiresome. Since when is being a whorenalist a protected trait?

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Tardigrade's avatar

Well. What else would you expect from an economist?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

No fuel, no economy. No wonder he’s bitter. Pretty soon the remains of his vocation will be snatched by Ai.

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Riri's avatar

Maybe an economic pun 😁

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Tardigrade's avatar

John Rudat came really close to losing an eye. His great attitude is pretty amazing.

In fact, he and his story are so perfect that I fully expect any minute now people to start claiming that's just a good make-up job and the whole thing was staged.

3...2...1...

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Riri's avatar

Indeed. And he wanted to become a model. That is now probably of the table. I'm just waiting for the loathsome leftwing press to call him a right winger and/or Trump supporter

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

I think he already is a model - see dailymail.co.uk article today, where there’s a photograph of him in a pose.

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Joe Pazos's avatar

East Germany 2.0 Rats !

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