On Tuesday, 29 March, virologist and foremost German Corona astrologer Christian Drosten went on indefinite hiatus from Coronavirus Update, his noxious state media podcast.
Today it was reported in coffee and covid Jeff Childers, Elon Musk has just bought 9.2% stake in twitter. I (and many others probably) sent Elon a tweet to buy twitter and guess what? He did. He is against censorship. One baby step at a time? πππππππ₯°π₯°π
Dont trust the rich and powerful. Musk, Gates, Zuckerberg: they may be at odds with each other on certain topics, but in the big picture their interests are much more in alignement than in contradiction.
Good point. We are scheduled to work for the fascists and the money we receive can only be spent on renting the spaces we will be forced to live in plus fees to enter the metaverse.
I wish I could meet in person some of the like minded people who comment here .In towns and cities places should be established where one can meet and get together for discussions ,as I consider most of the people posting here as friends .
And you don't think that would be deemed "dangerous", exactly like the "loose and dangerous" talk prohibited on Twitter, FB, all of them ? Do you think the "place" could be secret enough to escape surveillance cameras and listening devices ? Do you remember what happened to people who affiliated with groups considered "conservative" here in the USA ? Lois Lerner, of the FBI, found them out, many just simple, middle class "housewives", "soccer moms", and others, and brought down the full weight of the IRS, FBI, etc. on them . There was a time in the world, when Christians had to meet secretly in caves, caverns, and catacombs. They made the simple sign, icon, of a fish made with one stroke.... as a symbol to each other of a meeting.... just saying...
Drosten's lockdown preaching along with the other astrologers caused irreparable damage to children. It was inexcusable for a virus that barely affected them.
They may be disappearing but they need to be held to account.
I agree that letting the Drostens and Faucis quietly slip away is unacceptable. They need to some how be held to account. I am not optimistic that it will happen, but in my dream world they would be stripped of their funding, credentials and be treated as social pariahs. I dream that Fauci becomes an expression of derision - " they are going to Fauci this crisis".
He, Fauci, seems to now be (somewhat) quietly rolling out yet another tour. Like an aging rock star, he KNOWS he's lost stellar stardom, but he also knows he has a legion of loyal followers who will follow him to their death if necessary. He also realized it is going to take every once of effort he may have left ("left", LOL !) to fight what has to have him worried about the mid-term elections. So he's packing up the old van, getting out ALL the old tunes; little cotton masks, the "distance" decals for all buildings and businesses (the PERFECT distance remember, 6', NOT 5 1/2", NOT 10", SIX FOOT... the virus is picky and the virus KNOWS), dusting off the "laws" that you can only leave your house for NEEDED medicine and food, and ONLY during certain hours, packing up the old tour bus, hitting all the networks that will accept him, and playing all the old tunes for the fully devoted groupies, the "ONE LAST TOUR TOUR"... that always brings them by the hundreds of thousands doesn't it, the Stones, the Eagles, Billy Joel, Tina Turner, Cher and....... TONY FAUCI... which hot ticket would YOU buy ?
The last time I can remember Congressional investigations doing more than white wash was 1976Church/Pike Committees. The revelations about CIA infiltration of media was effectively neutered by CIA's own Bob Woodward Watergate bombshell. It launched the myth of adversarial media and offered Nixon as a pound of flesh to an irate public and lives on in our propaganda soaked culture. In the rare cases Congress finds anything of substance like Senate Torture Report it's classified to be released with the speed of Warren Commission findings for JFK assassination.
No question DC has its share of suspicious deaths but not a factor here. Frank Church held his Senate seat until 1981 and died in 1984.. Otis Pike lived til 2014..
Lock em all up and maybe the cell door will hit them all in the keisterβ¦..and donβt forget to throw away the key. They have caused irreparable harm.
Absolutely. My biggest fear is that upon relief of the terror we have been held under people will βforgive and forgetβ. This can NEVER, EVER HAPPEN. We must hold every single one of these bastards to account!
I am an optimist and rather than believing that the Covid pandemic has softened the public up for future authoritarian responses to "crises", I think the opposite is true. People (like me) went along with masking and vaccine regimens because of the unknowns and the purported dangers. Next time, I beleive there will be an immediate and vigorous pushback. People are not going to believe the experts and conservative politicians will respond accordingly and create a more robust counterweight to the lefty establishment. Personally, I will never, ever wear a mask for any reason (other than in my woodworking shop). I will never take a pharmaceutical that is on an emergency use waiver. I know a lot of people who feel the same way, some of them are very politically liberal. It is starting to sink in broadly that the last two years was a horrible mistake that can't ever be repeated.
It has also destroyed confidence in the medical industry. It certainly ly has for me, to my great benefit. Just before the pandemic panic I had already become suspicious of standard medicine and had begun learning about my conditions on my own instead of blindly following doctors orders for increasing meds and procedures. Since then I've become medication free, my blood tests and diagnostics have improved a lot, and my doctors are diplomatically mystified. Their training is to impose medical standards, not optimal health. Until that changes, everyone needs to become much more participants in their health.
True. It applies to nearly all medical conditions. Read up on the prostata scum, cholesterin hoax, knea operations .... without doctors we would live just as long and life expectancy has equally increased in countries, where health services are non existant, so to speak
Just look at how the terror, death, fear of 9-11, set up those of us in the U.S.A. to HAPPILY give up sacred rights hundreds of thousands have died for since 1776, when Covid mysteriously hit (just like 9-11), we were more than ready to comply with most anything, even down to agreeing to deprive our newborns and young toddlers of FULL oxygen ! That we were "groomed" for this is a vast understatement.
Wishful thinking. Just look at the mass hysteria seen after being brainwashed on daily basis as regards Ukraine. Even on their uniforms it is written "death to the jews, death to Russians. Selinsky and his party were celebrating in parliament the death by burning of 40 Russian speaking Odessians
It is with mixed feelings that I greet news of this kind. Obviously, yes, I am glad that the world is wending its way back to sanity regarding public health. However, the much larger part of me wants revenge and retribution. That the bad guys simply get to exit stage left is intolerable, but I fear that is what is going to happen.
I have the same feelings⦠these devils need to be PUNISHED for every death/disability and for all of the suffering that they have caused! Where there is NO consequences, there is NO law. Also, without stiff penalties, what prevents them from doing it again?!
We have only been released temporarily. Unless these people are held to account, they will be back. It is in their nature and, besides, it's not like they met any opposition.
Weβre not out of the woods. I saw a recent article in a large metropolitan daily newspaper refer to a legislator in his title as a βCovid survivor.β If thatβs true, please begin referring to me as a two-time Covid survivor (test confirmed with mild cold-like symptoms each time). But Iβm also an eight-time influenza survivor, a three-time food-poisoning survivor and a 40+-time common cold survivor. Oh, and Iβm unvaxxed to all that stuff.
"anyone who believes he can train his immune system with infection, must necessarily also believe that he can train his digestive tract by eating steak."
Changing your eating habits does tend to produce a gut microbiome that will be more well-suited to deal with the new diet - so that's, in a manner of speaking, actually what you do, "train your gut", lol. (IDK about the specifics of steak, but shifting e.g. to fat-heavy from carb-heavy or vice versa does that)
The vehemence against the Great Barrington Declaration at this late date is pretty understandable, though- it stands as an historical marker with which to compare the panickers. It must grate on the Covidian Cult that the GBD looks more correct with every passing day.
I think the more optimistic take on Drosten's departure back into private life is that he realizes that he was wrong all along, and can no longer stomach the fight to preserve his reputation, so he goes into witness protection like a mafia button man.
They know it's there, and it will be used as evidence at their prosecution. They'll try ever harder to discredit the evidence. It won't work, but they'll become more desperate as their doom approaches. Never as quick as we like, but always inevitable. Standard perp behavior. Cops see it every day. Prosecutors react to public demand. It's up to us to generate the demands.
I offer Drosten is doing the leftist tactic of laying low until people forget what an AH he is. Like Fauci and Cuomo, when the smoke clears he will re-emerge.
Is Drosten considered to be left wing? His first 18 months at helm of corona response was under Merkel who was a conservative (i.e. more Republican than Democrat) leader.
Morrison and Johnson are also on that side of politics. Would the Covid response have been different under Trump's leadership if he'd won? Seems to me that it wouldn't have been from the 2020 developments.
I suspect that Pharma owns the governments of the Western World, no matter their complexion.
News today from Germany is that MPs are scapping plan for mandatory vaccine for all adults and are now proposing mandate for all 50+ starting 1st of October. The Bundestag is to vote on compulsory vaccination on Thursday. Do you think they will approve the 50+ mandate even if it's just to give the appearance that they are doing something? I pray they don't.
Today it was reported in coffee and covid Jeff Childers, Elon Musk has just bought 9.2% stake in twitter. I (and many others probably) sent Elon a tweet to buy twitter and guess what? He did. He is against censorship. One baby step at a time? πππππππ₯°π₯°π
2021: Write your senator.
2022: Forget your senator. Write Elon Musk.
I was Elon Musk I wouldn't even want to be the president.
Dont trust the rich and powerful. Musk, Gates, Zuckerberg: they may be at odds with each other on certain topics, but in the big picture their interests are much more in alignement than in contradiction.
Musk supports Musk not us.
He is a globalistβ¦ π‘
I agree. Musk supports Nazis in Ukraine
LOL!
Musk is a transhumanist. Iβm wary of his true intentions.
Good point. We are scheduled to work for the fascists and the money we receive can only be spent on renting the spaces we will be forced to live in plus fees to enter the metaverse.
I wish I could meet in person some of the like minded people who comment here .In towns and cities places should be established where one can meet and get together for discussions ,as I consider most of the people posting here as friends .
I live in Munich. Anybody likeminded?
And you don't think that would be deemed "dangerous", exactly like the "loose and dangerous" talk prohibited on Twitter, FB, all of them ? Do you think the "place" could be secret enough to escape surveillance cameras and listening devices ? Do you remember what happened to people who affiliated with groups considered "conservative" here in the USA ? Lois Lerner, of the FBI, found them out, many just simple, middle class "housewives", "soccer moms", and others, and brought down the full weight of the IRS, FBI, etc. on them . There was a time in the world, when Christians had to meet secretly in caves, caverns, and catacombs. They made the simple sign, icon, of a fish made with one stroke.... as a symbol to each other of a meeting.... just saying...
NRW
I don't trust Musk.
I distrust him less than the rest of the tech oligarchs.
He is better at lying.
He does not quite own it at 9,7% stake
Murdoch owns News Limited on not much more.
Drosten's lockdown preaching along with the other astrologers caused irreparable damage to children. It was inexcusable for a virus that barely affected them.
They may be disappearing but they need to be held to account.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/how-children-were-impacted-by-lockdowns?s=w
I agree that letting the Drostens and Faucis quietly slip away is unacceptable. They need to some how be held to account. I am not optimistic that it will happen, but in my dream world they would be stripped of their funding, credentials and be treated as social pariahs. I dream that Fauci becomes an expression of derision - " they are going to Fauci this crisis".
They belong behind bars. Murder in the 1st Degree is a capital crime last time I checked!
Speedy trial and then the firing squad.
Nooseβ¦ rope is cheapβ¦ π₯
And reusable.
Guillotine would be most appropriate.
Yes that will work for some let's mix it up.
He, Fauci, seems to now be (somewhat) quietly rolling out yet another tour. Like an aging rock star, he KNOWS he's lost stellar stardom, but he also knows he has a legion of loyal followers who will follow him to their death if necessary. He also realized it is going to take every once of effort he may have left ("left", LOL !) to fight what has to have him worried about the mid-term elections. So he's packing up the old van, getting out ALL the old tunes; little cotton masks, the "distance" decals for all buildings and businesses (the PERFECT distance remember, 6', NOT 5 1/2", NOT 10", SIX FOOT... the virus is picky and the virus KNOWS), dusting off the "laws" that you can only leave your house for NEEDED medicine and food, and ONLY during certain hours, packing up the old tour bus, hitting all the networks that will accept him, and playing all the old tunes for the fully devoted groupies, the "ONE LAST TOUR TOUR"... that always brings them by the hundreds of thousands doesn't it, the Stones, the Eagles, Billy Joel, Tina Turner, Cher and....... TONY FAUCI... which hot ticket would YOU buy ?
The last time I can remember Congressional investigations doing more than white wash was 1976Church/Pike Committees. The revelations about CIA infiltration of media was effectively neutered by CIA's own Bob Woodward Watergate bombshell. It launched the myth of adversarial media and offered Nixon as a pound of flesh to an irate public and lives on in our propaganda soaked culture. In the rare cases Congress finds anything of substance like Senate Torture Report it's classified to be released with the speed of Warren Commission findings for JFK assassination.
Then Frank Church died!
No question DC has its share of suspicious deaths but not a factor here. Frank Church held his Senate seat until 1981 and died in 1984.. Otis Pike lived til 2014..
Repubs? Ha!
Lock em all up and maybe the cell door will hit them all in the keisterβ¦..and donβt forget to throw away the key. They have caused irreparable harm.
Absolutely. My biggest fear is that upon relief of the terror we have been held under people will βforgive and forgetβ. This can NEVER, EVER HAPPEN. We must hold every single one of these bastards to account!
The real problem is that even the highest court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) goes to bed with these criminals
I am an optimist and rather than believing that the Covid pandemic has softened the public up for future authoritarian responses to "crises", I think the opposite is true. People (like me) went along with masking and vaccine regimens because of the unknowns and the purported dangers. Next time, I beleive there will be an immediate and vigorous pushback. People are not going to believe the experts and conservative politicians will respond accordingly and create a more robust counterweight to the lefty establishment. Personally, I will never, ever wear a mask for any reason (other than in my woodworking shop). I will never take a pharmaceutical that is on an emergency use waiver. I know a lot of people who feel the same way, some of them are very politically liberal. It is starting to sink in broadly that the last two years was a horrible mistake that can't ever be repeated.
It has also destroyed confidence in the medical industry. It certainly ly has for me, to my great benefit. Just before the pandemic panic I had already become suspicious of standard medicine and had begun learning about my conditions on my own instead of blindly following doctors orders for increasing meds and procedures. Since then I've become medication free, my blood tests and diagnostics have improved a lot, and my doctors are diplomatically mystified. Their training is to impose medical standards, not optimal health. Until that changes, everyone needs to become much more participants in their health.
True. It applies to nearly all medical conditions. Read up on the prostata scum, cholesterin hoax, knea operations .... without doctors we would live just as long and life expectancy has equally increased in countries, where health services are non existant, so to speak
Just look at how the terror, death, fear of 9-11, set up those of us in the U.S.A. to HAPPILY give up sacred rights hundreds of thousands have died for since 1776, when Covid mysteriously hit (just like 9-11), we were more than ready to comply with most anything, even down to agreeing to deprive our newborns and young toddlers of FULL oxygen ! That we were "groomed" for this is a vast understatement.
Wishful thinking. Just look at the mass hysteria seen after being brainwashed on daily basis as regards Ukraine. Even on their uniforms it is written "death to the jews, death to Russians. Selinsky and his party were celebrating in parliament the death by burning of 40 Russian speaking Odessians
Perhaps I would be an optimist too, if I lived where you lived.
"... the same system of social, cultural and intellectual strangulation, from which we have now been released."
Though perhaps only temporarily.
alas, yes.
Enjoy this brief moment of freedom. The next "crisis" is just around the corner.
Take away Perhaps
It is with mixed feelings that I greet news of this kind. Obviously, yes, I am glad that the world is wending its way back to sanity regarding public health. However, the much larger part of me wants revenge and retribution. That the bad guys simply get to exit stage left is intolerable, but I fear that is what is going to happen.
I have the same feelings⦠these devils need to be PUNISHED for every death/disability and for all of the suffering that they have caused! Where there is NO consequences, there is NO law. Also, without stiff penalties, what prevents them from doing it again?!
To quote the songwriter James: We're getting away with it all messed up
Fantastic background on Drosten. Thank you for that!
Oh, and we're not "released" from bondage yet. Not until these bastards hang from trees and lamp posts will this ever be over.
We have only been released temporarily. Unless these people are held to account, they will be back. It is in their nature and, besides, it's not like they met any opposition.
Precisely.
Totally agree. This is a hiatus.
Germany's Fauci.
Clearly, if Drosten were born a member of the Sioux tribe in the late nineteenth century his name would have been "man-whose-nose-is-brown."
Is Braunenase a German word? Or shall we just make one up: Drostenase?
Eloquent and scathing, this is a beautiful way to begin the takedown of the bureaucrats that fueled so much misery.
Thank you!
Weβre not out of the woods. I saw a recent article in a large metropolitan daily newspaper refer to a legislator in his title as a βCovid survivor.β If thatβs true, please begin referring to me as a two-time Covid survivor (test confirmed with mild cold-like symptoms each time). But Iβm also an eight-time influenza survivor, a three-time food-poisoning survivor and a 40+-time common cold survivor. Oh, and Iβm unvaxxed to all that stuff.
A paid Schill. Why aren't the finances of someone like him being subpoenaed so we can investigate and arrest him for illegal activity?
The Tomas Pueyo dipshit is almost as bad.
Drosten is a monster. Pure evil.
"anyone who believes he can train his immune system with infection, must necessarily also believe that he can train his digestive tract by eating steak."
Changing your eating habits does tend to produce a gut microbiome that will be more well-suited to deal with the new diet - so that's, in a manner of speaking, actually what you do, "train your gut", lol. (IDK about the specifics of steak, but shifting e.g. to fat-heavy from carb-heavy or vice versa does that)
The vehemence against the Great Barrington Declaration at this late date is pretty understandable, though- it stands as an historical marker with which to compare the panickers. It must grate on the Covidian Cult that the GBD looks more correct with every passing day.
I think the more optimistic take on Drosten's departure back into private life is that he realizes that he was wrong all along, and can no longer stomach the fight to preserve his reputation, so he goes into witness protection like a mafia button man.
I don't know β GBD never went anywhere, and nobody but Corona nerds like us ever even knew what it was. Far easier for them just to ignore it.
They know it's there, and it will be used as evidence at their prosecution. They'll try ever harder to discredit the evidence. It won't work, but they'll become more desperate as their doom approaches. Never as quick as we like, but always inevitable. Standard perp behavior. Cops see it every day. Prosecutors react to public demand. It's up to us to generate the demands.
Someone is in their ear telling them different then.
Yes, but its existence is a threat so it must be discredited.
I offer Drosten is doing the leftist tactic of laying low until people forget what an AH he is. Like Fauci and Cuomo, when the smoke clears he will re-emerge.
Is Drosten considered to be left wing? His first 18 months at helm of corona response was under Merkel who was a conservative (i.e. more Republican than Democrat) leader.
Morrison and Johnson are also on that side of politics. Would the Covid response have been different under Trump's leadership if he'd won? Seems to me that it wouldn't have been from the 2020 developments.
I suspect that Pharma owns the governments of the Western World, no matter their complexion.
eugyppius,
News today from Germany is that MPs are scapping plan for mandatory vaccine for all adults and are now proposing mandate for all 50+ starting 1st of October. The Bundestag is to vote on compulsory vaccination on Thursday. Do you think they will approve the 50+ mandate even if it's just to give the appearance that they are doing something? I pray they don't.
I don't think it passes, no. It's just an exercise in face-saving, by Scholz and Lauterbach.
About Germany, are you aware that there are protests in many places?
Good to hear that there are protests. LameStream media surpresses any coverage of protests.