The same people that are gonna come out today and say that we need to turn down the volume on the rhetoric are going to try to put Trump in prison in a couple weeks. I don't think there's a political solution to the issue of the left in the west
Biden's J6 unduly prosecutions of old ladies standing on the Capital steps while letting real criminals out of prison is an effort to try to get MAGAs to attack. It's pure baiting.
I think you are right. And when this happens they will say, see, they are violent and dangerous. So the thing to do is wait and keep calm no matter how hard it is.
I sure hope not. Nonetheless: ammo, water and MREs. If it goes down, be prepared to defend your family. If the Gates of Hell open up, the police will NOT be coming.
Good question Cathleen. That’s what I asked my hubby while he was packing the bag. His response “to the mountains/forest… anywhere the enemy isn’t”. He’s made a plan. Not sure what would constitute an emergency that would force us to grab the bag and go. I pray it never happens - I’m not the “camping outside/survival type girl”. LOL
The bear will take only so much poking before it shows it's teeth. When those fearsome fangs and flesh ripping claws finally come out, the communists behind these "fundamental changes" will sneak back under the rocks to hibernate until a better opportunity arises for their evil.
It seems increasingly doubtful, indeed. First they rig the game, then, when it becomes apparent that they are losing control of the narrative, they become violent. First in rhetoric, then in deed. I fear worse is still to come.
Such calls can come from "our side", too. This morning I saw a "both sides must tone down the rhetoric" article on a conservative opinion site. I don't think the times call for such RINO-like sentiments. We need Pattons, not Gomer Pyles.
Gotta love the false equivalence between playground insults like "sleepy Joe" or "crooked Hilary" and calling someone a clear and present danger to the American republic
The peanut butter keeps hitting the fan. Eventually we need to clean the peanut butter up. It’s not gonna clean itself. It’s simply a matter of how much peanut butter we tolerate and how we clean it up. Personally I’m not much for drowning in peanut butter.
I can’t help wondering if yesterday’s assassination attempt is the first act in a play, where the next act will involve a Trump supporter successfully assassinating Biden, having been serenely plotted by strategists like those in this Network scene:
1) They get rid of Biden without the political cost of losing face.
2) Biden becomes a martyr who can no longer be criticized and can be used to serve the greater cause.
3) The DNC can replace him with their preferred puppet.
4) They can still rig the election without it looking suspicious.
5) The Trump supporter (and by association, Trump) are vilified as far-right–wing fascist extremists, justifying a ramp-up in the War on Domestic Terrorism.
6) The media make out like bandits on the entertainment value of the unfolding play.
Perhaps we can foil the plot if so many people see this prediction, they know they won’t be able to get away with it.
The only problem with your theory is that Trump was only narrowly not killed. You wouldn't try to pull off an almost assassination that close just to try to get someone else to pull off a successful one. Also, if Trump had been killed, steps 2 through 6 in your scenario would not be necessary. I am on the fence about whether this was a plot or just a twisted loner. But it does seem like an awful lot of planning for a single twisted loner.
Without a VP pick, if Trump dies who would replace him? Little Marco? Tim Scott? Most likely it would be Nuke'm Nikki, stooge of the MIC. With Trump gone, the RNC would be in even greater disarray than the DNC.
It isn’t necessary to go through all the trouble of firing actual bullets at Trump when stage blood can do the trick. Trump doesn’t even have to be in on it as the secret service could have applied it when they pulled him down.
Your intuition about the single twisted loner is spot on as history reveals that has rarely if ever been the case in spectacles like this.
Sorry to disagree with you Margaret, but there is the problem of one corpse and two critically injured people. This was no fake. Further, you don't have to try to kill Trump in order to stage an assassination attempt on Biden. You've been screaming for two years that Trump's followers are deranged. Why not just use the dodgy conviction in NY as the motivating rationale for killing Biden?
Not a problem at all. As Ingrid said, real bullets can be used for the irrelevant plebes.
The dodgy conviction is already old news and has been upstaged by Biden's debate faceplant. The Democrats are in full-on panic mode and need a Hollywood-style spectacle to divert the public's attention and steer us toward their desired outcomes.
Not necessarily given the superficiality of the injury, and then there’s always the possibility Trump was in on it if Donald Jeffries’s Trumpenstein hypothesis is true:
I do not understand how this attempted assassination (really SS holds him down behind podium to apply fake means you feel Trump was involved, even if not with forehand knowledge, but after the fact.
My eyes do not deceive me, this was a true murder attempt. Regardless, how does the far left (all dems these days) benefit from this. Donald becomes even more of a folk hero now, not less.
Even as a distractive event I cannot see how it benefits the left. Help me get there- seriously. Unless their ultimate goal is to quietly figure out how to have Joe lose to get rid of him deceptively and “quietly” while misdirectly handwringing chagrin over his lost 2 nd term. As much as they revile Mr Trump maybe they are so afraid of Pres Biden they are willing to forsake 4 years to plan for the next legacy dem.
Regarding the SS holding him down, one of them could have applied the blood in the scramble without him realizing exactly what was occurring due to the chaos.
You are absolutely right about the far left not benefiting from this particular act as it makes Trump even more of a folk hero than he already was. When my mom texted me this news yesterday, my first assumption was that this was a deep-state assassination attempt, and I said, “Don’t they realize that’s going to make him even *more* popular?! His handlers aren’t going to be happy he failed.”
On later reflection, I realized of course they understand the Streisand effect, so they would know this would trigger even more support for Trump (whether as a martyr or attempted target), Trump’s record-breaking fundraising success after his “felony convictions” being proof of that.
That’s when the hypothesis I shared here popped into my head. I shared it not because I’m certain it’s true but because if it is, we may be able to stop it by articulating it in advance.
And yes, the long game is exactly right—that’s why I described this as Act One, which is an apparent win for Trump and his supporters but could be used to set the scene for a “deranged far-right–wing extremist Trump supporter” assassinating Biden, thus checking off every item on the cruelites’ wishlist in regards to the November election. They insert the globalist puppet of their choosing, rig the election as planned, and people won’t question the results with the same incredulity they would if it were Biden.
You may be interested in Donald Jeffries’s take since he has decades of expertise in assassinations, false flags, and legitimate conspiracies:
There is a high speed photo showing the bullet in the air by trumps head and the blood on Trump before he went down. Conspiracy theorists need to spend time asking the right questions - not trying to erase actual events that the media itself tried to downplay until they were confirmed.
The FBI says that’s what it was, so I’m sure it’s true :-) And I know they would never-ever use Photoshop or collude with “New York Times” journalists on the fabrication of evidence.
As William Blum wrote:
“No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine.”
Except, you neglect the critical fact that your favored sources of collusion despise Trump and would never cover for him, regardless of payoff. Remember the last 1st Amendment SC decision. The govt/media complex is vehemently against anything that would make Pres Trump a victim, which he clearly was here.
Pray tell, how did JFK and MLK pull off their stunts.? I know what you will state, but, proof?
“An unwitting Goldstein, Trump played right into BigPharma’s strategy to discredit hydroxychloroquine by praising it—giving Trump Derangement Syndrome (a psychological disorder manufactured by and spread to tremendous monetary benefit and turnkey mass control by the media) sufferers the best and only reason they needed to dismiss it. They have been trained to plug their ears, cover their eyes, scream at the top of their lungs, and stamp their feet the instant any one of the Deplorables opens his mouth. One of the most effective instruments in the plutocracy’s toolkit, TDS has been brandished to misdirect the public for years, and it continues to work its magic despite Trump’s declining relevance, the embers of which the media will continue to fan as long as it pays dividends—just as Goldstein’s detested image is deployed in culturally unifying activities such as Two Minutes Hate.” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-scientifically-minded)
And yes, I know the part about his declining relevance is no longer valid, but it was worth pointing out in 2021 because TDS sufferers were still tantrum-throwing over Trump, even though he was no longer in office and had not yet declared his candidacy.
You’re making a false equivalency, William :-) That’s the sort of logical fallacy I expect propagandists to deploy when they’re trying to get the public to dismiss a legitimate question by associating it with a ridiculous claim.
Sounds like you are using same tactic you claim of others. It is your massive conspiracy theory, not mine! Please don’t attempt to deflect. Remember, I respond to your thoughts, I did not create them. So, deflection aside (and fancy dictionary words).
Seems to me, you know the only “legitimate” question is yours and those in your fan club.
Anything else, in your erudite opinion is nonsense and propaganda.
Just maybe Trump turned against the deep state this time so they decided to take him out with an amateur to distract from the recent Biden debacle. If the amateur missed then they have deniability but the SS did not do the job properly so right there is the weak link.
The first scenario aside, the next few predictions are frighteningly plausible. Conveniently rigging Biden's exit and pinning it on maga "extremists" is a win-win indeed. They would then attempt to ride the wave all the way through to alleged victory. In fact, it wouldn't matter if it was a hit or a miss on Trump's life - or even if it was carried out by by a plant or a nutjob. It opens the door for "retaliatory" action, and thus the next scenes would unfold.
ah yes, the single twisted loner, hmmm, a bit like LHO, no? As Eugy says, and I agree, this incident will incite many, many, 'conspiracy theories' and distract everyone!
You think a 20-year-old misanthropic "William Tell" was hired to nearly miss Trump and then offer himself as a sacrificial lamb to the deep state as part of some elaborately orchestrated election scheme? Thanks, we'll be in touch.
400 feet isn't a crazy shot for someone who shoots regularly, especially if the shooter has a decent optical sight (I don't know if Mr. Crooks' rifle had any optics on it, or if Mr. Crooks was an experienced shooter - the fact he was wearing the t-shirt of a gun-focused youtube channel suggests he was a gun enthusiast, but that doesn't prove anything). Trump got *very* lucky, and whoever was responsible for not putting a LEO on that roof in advance deserves to find a new line of work.
The head of the SS (an unfortunate acronym, I suggest) is a woman called Cheatle. She just recently said they didn't because it was too steep! I kid you not. Have you seen the pictures of both the shooter's vantage point and that of the snipers who shot him immediately after he fired? Which would you say was the steeper?
Her name seems to be another example of the phenomenon of convergence between name and nature. Anyway she's undoubtedly for the chop come a Trump Presidency, DEI or not.
He didn't miss 'by a lot'; the Gateway Pundit has a graphic of a computer generated trajectory line showing Trump was a few scant millimetres from a fatal headshot. His last millisecond head tilt (at the screen to his right) saved his life.
That boy was another triumph for mainstreaming which ensures that unhappy lonely boys grow up to be entirely utterly isolated because they have no peer group friends and normal life is inexplicable to them.
I agree but that wasn't my point. An absurd idea was raised that the shooter was hired to drliberatly miss Trump as Act I of some three act "election play."
That is how I read it as well. Too much of a James Bond scenario for me to swallow. I will say however, that hitting a moving target at 150 yards from a prone position on a roof is not as easy as some people seem to think it is. Either this kid practiced an awful lot, or he had training.
I have a rifle like this. This is NOT a hard shot, if the rifle had a scope on it. And I am not the best of marksmen, either, but I can reliably put bullets in a paper target at 200 yards within a six inch circle.
From the prone position, most people with minimal training in marksmanship could do the same.
But the idea that someone had the skill to clip an ear on someone moving their head in an unpredictable motion at 148 yards with a light breeze defies logic.
How long have you been shooting and how many rounds do you put through your rifle every week? What position do you shoot from? Are you balanced on a slippery rooftop? Is there something alive at the other end of the range when you're shooting? Is it moving? How do you feel about putting holes in a paper target versus flesh and blood? All of those things matter.
Correct. Back in the day, (1990s) in Amish country, I was a basketball coach in a middle school. On the first Friday of hunting season, 8th graders would put their rifles in their lockers in the mornings to leave early in the afternoon.
If he was a regular at the range, there will be a record of his sessions, and of his purchases. Every gun safety class I have taken is easy public record--if Feds want it.
Here is something interesting. From an AP story, "Crooks tried out for the school's rifle team but was turned away because he was a bad shooter, said Frederick Mach, a current captain of the team who was a few years behind Crooks at the school."
According to a BBC report, the rifle in question was purchased by Crooks' father six months ago. Why he purchased it is anyone's guess. I understand that both of Crooks' parents were social workers of some kind.
You may want to do a little research on MK-Ultra and the role of intelligence agencies in past assassinations, mass-shooting events, and color revolutions before you smugly dismiss the possibility of their involvement, however.
RFK Jr., for example, believes “Sirhan may have been subjected to coercive hypnosis, in a real-life version of “The Manchurian Candidate”:
Robert Jay Lifton’s “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of 'Brainwashing' in China” reveals further techniques that can be used in such a scenario.
I KNOW all about that. Thanks. But a REAL deep state operation wouldn't have missed the target. When the Deep State took out JFK, you think they were counting on bullets from Lee Harvey Oswald's gun to perform some "magic bullet trick?" We're talking about the people who not long ago murdered a Supreme Court Chief Justice in his bed.
Ah, but that assumes the aim was to assassinate Trump rather than creating the pretense for a "deranged Trump supporter" to assassinate Biden as I outlined in my hypothesis.
I am open to the possibility that this kid was a CIA asset. But in that case, why not just kill Trump? Problem solved. It is the rest of your scenario, which depends on a failed assassination attempt that I find hard to accept.
Kill Trump and make a martyr out of him? Think about the downstream effects of that as it would cement his legacy as a hero, and then Donald Trump Jr. could amass instantaneous support as his successor candidate.
He has no "replacement" because he so thoroughly destroyed his potential challengers in what I mockingly refer to as the recent Republican Primary. Even the very competent Ron DeSantis, whom I liked, is still lacking his wounds.
True, but think about the history of dynasties in the lineage of American presidents. Donald Jr. would immediately inherit all of the cachet of his father, and people would stampede to the polls to voice their support of Trump by proxy.
Always consider what Bernays outlined in “Crystallizing Public Opinion” and “Propaganda,” the latter of which includes the quote:
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
“We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.…
“In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons—a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million—who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.”
Those who forget the dark arts of public-opinion engineering and mass control remain susceptible to this conscious and intelligent manipulation of their beliefs.
Biden is absolutely a threat if he refuses to step aside, as he has, and no one on the planet would buy him as the victor when they rig the election in November.
J6 was DEFINITELY a setup. Look how much mileage they got out of an unarmed group of grannies and grandpas who thought the police were letting them into the Capitol for three-hour tour (not Gilligan's Island lol).
If you want to entertain some additional J6 shenanigans, I believe the DNC pipe bomb in which the FBI is suspiciously disinterested was intended to remove Kamala, who everyone knows was selected to help dottering Biden over the finish line. Biden would have then picked a more deep-state friendly "Brutus" veep who would have been ready to take over from President Pant-shitter when his senility cover was blown... like now. But something went wrong (for them) and now they're in a quandary.
I don't think Biden assination was planned ahead but I think they could be planning it now since the attempt to kill Trump failed. They need to get rid of Biden somehow.
Or maybe they were planning an assassination of Biden but this loan wolf ruined the plans lol
I've been having this thought since yesterday too. Biden being taken out solves several problems the deep state is currently facing and allows them to crack down harder on Trump supporters.
Possibly true, straw man events. Clearly this was a college corrupted sycophant who had delusions of grandeur and martyrdom. Clearly deranged.
No doubt SS, FBI, NSA, CIA already have the plan in place for a pseudo-MAGA disciple to attempt Biden assassination. Likely Biden will not be killed , but incapacitated (as though his warped cognition ain’t that) such that he vacates presidency. Just when we thought things could not be worse, along comes kamel, ugh.
The utter disdain and incompetence of police and SS seem to indicate this was a known and planned event. Dude carries a gun 400 to feet from Mr. Trump then shoots. Security, nah. That is for American citizens showing up to vote.
Reeks of rampant planned corruption throughout the ranks.
Being an obvious false flag has never stopped them in the past!
Waiting for Biden to die is too risky with the election right around the corner. More importantly, the shock-and-awe value of an assassination makes it too tempting a tool to resist in the psychological warfare that will be used to usher in the next totalitarianism-excusing crisis.
If it’s an October surprise, Harris won’t be in the driver’s seat for long, and as is evident from Biden’s regency, just because you put a steering wheel in front of a toddler doesn’t mean the toddler is driving.
Sadly, MAA's hypothesis - as elaborated in subsequent posts - makes the most sense. Key point bears repeating because it is somewhat counter-intuitive for a sane person:
>>Being an obvious false flag has never stopped them in the past!<<
the Donors see that the Biden's will not relent, they are probs asking too much. Pardons and money and some kind of historical legacy (both Joe and Jill are obsessed with legacy). I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't wake up one day. If Harris becomes the 1st black female president, it won't last long. The tyrannical DNC governors who are deeply loved by the donors don't have a chance with voters, imho.
The 'attempt' could go a few ways but it was clearly orchestrated and, as the facts emerge, the shooter was clearly allowed to proceed. Trump, ever the opportunist, rose to his feet and shook his fist. Beautifully done. Truly remarkable.
While we the world is watching this with intensity (like the Chinese air balloon on SuperBowl Sunday), what is going on elsewhere that we do not see?
What an amazing time to be alive when peace is in our hearts.
Jill is probably more of a narcissistic self- promoted than cadaver Joe (thanks Ryan :)). She is his Rasputin and he is too stupid to realize she would gladly throw him to the wolves - as she has done numerous times already - for personal prestige and noteriety. She views as her puppet, her personal stairway to personal acclaim. That ain’t love, that is unadulterated man stipulation and abuse of the demented.
Like many, I am really impressed and amazed by Trumps reaction to being shot. Nobody knows how they would react in the same situation, I'd like to think I would have the same fearlessness. With Trump - we know.
Second, we really do live in the age of incompetence. By any riflemans standard, this was an easy shot. And thank god for that, the shooter was a lousy shot. And the SS managing to fuck up the coverage, the reaction, and the evacuation is really remarkable.
This election is his now. But I believe the regime will get desperate now.
That was one of my first thoughts too. No question about fight or flight - we saw fight kick in. We actually don’t consciously control that - it’s innate.
Not a difficult shot from a technical perspective but he had to clamber up there, apparently threaten off a local cop(!), set up, then take his shot - all while flooded with adrenaline and knowing he had seconds to live.
I’m reasonably good with an AR and I was wondering idly to myself last night whether I’d manage it. Hard to say.
'Many people – including many of my readers – have predicted that something like this would happen for a very long time.'
It was inevitable. The thing that surprises me is that it took so long for someone to take a shot at him.
I'm no fan of Trump, but if his speech on the morning of January 6 is considered impeachment-worthy incitement, what about the Left's campaign of the last few years claiming that Donald Trump is literally Satan on earth and an existential threat to democracy?
Ha. Just try telling that to any of your liberal friends.
Please be with me in spirit tomorrow when I have that weekly call with My Friend from Fifth Grade and tell her that I've changed my mind about not voting for any candidate.
I have a grip of steel on myself to not tell her she's the star of my commentary. That would of course permanently blow things up and as I have previously explained I'm in it for the duration. We had an estrangement of 16 years and it made me miserable and finally I had to end it. There are some people, there's no proper word for them. "Friends" is not enough and "like sisters" is untruthful. It's just there's a hole in your life if they're not in it.
I cut the conversation short after she told me that Trump didn't really get shot, it was fake blood, a conspiracy by the Republicans to drum up sympathy for him, and the guy who got killed and the two other men wounded were some sort of mishap in the plan.
Ha. As an inveterate reader of mysteries, when something like this happens I can't help spinning various scenarios as mystery plots. That was of course one of them, especially because that fist-in-the-air pose seems made for TV. However, the collateral injuries in my plot would've been faked.
We can speculate all we want, but anyone who insists a particular theory is true is blowing smoke.
Close-up photos of Trump's face in the moment show his shock, and I could see, in the live broadcast from the Republican Convention, how pale he was under the bronzer.
The iconic photo was taken after he'd got his shoes back on and told his idiot SS detail to wait for a moment before hustling him away. It's the very first photos that show the genuineness of the moment.
I agree that's the most likely explanation. Sometimes I deplore my descent into total cynicism. BTW "blowing smoke" is more applicable to your friend. In my view.
It may be a very short conversation because I expect her to shriek into my ear that she always knew I was a Trumper (though she was the only one of the two of us who has ever voted for him). I shall be fortified by that Chinese restaurant fortune I got by mistake last month when I was handed the wrong bag of takeout food, discovered that only after getting home, and decided to just go ahead and eat it since there was nothing in it I wouldn't like. And the restaurant gave me a ten dollar credit in penitence.
Anyway that fortune said "Be kind to others, even when it's not easy." So my anticipated enjoyment of egg foo young was sacrificed to A Higher Purpose.
Sadly, a great deal of rot on both the Democrat and Republican sides -- I really don't envy Americans having to make that choice. Though too many are just toeing the Party lines without much thought involved.
"nice" when events "conspire" to justify our preferred choices ... 😉🙂
But I very much sympathize -- unless there's a sea-change on the Democrat side -- particularly about Title IX, transgenderism, DEI, BLM, and many other issues -- I kind of think they're toast.
Speaking as an American, I've long resented being expected to choose between two unpalatable options, and I'm encouraging anyone who will listen to vote for a third-party candidate. *Any* third-party candidate. We need to send a message.
"Speaking as a Canadian... 😉🙂", I can sympathize -- we have 3 or 4 more or less viable parties to choose from.
But the two-party system there in the US is certainly rather "problematic", the nature of the beast. Though think it's too late now to be voting for any third -party candidates -- maybe next time around.
But reminds me of a classic from Mark Twain that speaks rather directly, and damningly, to that problem:
MT: "Men think they think upon great political questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
RFK jr is probably the only one who could beat either. If enough people decided to do that, it would definitely send a message. Though not sure how he’d be as a president. (Lots of mixed things about him)
In the end, I've done that in every other election I've voted in. Trump is unpalatable... and if they'd just let it go after he left office, there's no chance I've be voting for him this year. But they didn't, and now I'm going to.
Wasn't there a big brouhaha about a Sarah Palin putting bull's-eyes over the pictures of select D politicians a few years back? Nothing really happened there besides media outrage.
remember Hilary fans (and I think herself) with a rubber trump head full of blood? I remember the pic very well because even though I don't like the man, this is just something you don't do.
Well, he's just won the election now. And as I said last night over in Simulation Commander's parlor, I'm gonna need escorts to the polling station to hush me as a howl bursts from my kishkes while I trash all my principles and vote a straight Republican ticket.
Nothing--nothing was going to make me do that. Nothing. And here we are. And there's lots and lots of mes now, who may loathe the Republican Party in every possible way but finally cannot deny that the Democrats must lose everything everywhere.
You didn't catch, maybe, that immediately following the failed assassination, the Biden campaign paused all TV advertising. Biden's ersatz balls had him shrieking the day before about how Trump is an evil evil man. Joey, I know evil and you better look in a mirror though you're beyond recognizing faces now.
Don’t underestimate the Republican ability to snatch defeat from jaws of victory AND Trump would need to surpass the margin of error by quite a bit…they will never stop persecuting this man. Never
I voted a straight Republican ticket in 2020 because I knew the Democrats were going to try to steal the election and decided to do my part to make their theft a little harder. And I'm someone who usually votes for one of those so-called third parties.
I have never not ever cast a vote I did not later regret except for 2016 when I voted affirmatively for "none of the above." In 2020 I stayed home, and I have decided that fuck it, everyone else can save the world if they want to but I am done now, absolutely done, fuck it.
And then yesterday happened and I've been wanting, as a non-drinking woman, to be in a spiritous stupor ever since because I have no choice now, I must piss upon my integrity and vote that Republican ticket even if some of the candidates would weld a chastity belt to my nethers if they could.
I get mad like this, it's all over. It's best to leave that quality in me sleeping, but here we are.
It's always been such an absurdity, the morons calling him antisemitic. And he was in fact the most successful advancer of peace for the Middle East we ever had as President.
It's reactions like yours that make me entertain the (extra-thick tinfoil hat) possibility that the whole assassination attempt was a cleverly orchestrated Hollywood-style production.
The best argument against it is that after the debate Trump hardly needed the assist.
You know, the world we're in now, what isn't possible?
What I think is that the idiot-from-corporate lady Secret Service chief is not up to times like this, and there's no shortage of despairing autistic kids whose traits can make them extraordinarily precise with guns and whose inner worlds of delusion make them perfect for moments like this.
Please note I'm not seriously suggesting that. It's more of a commentary on our times about how cynical many of us have become out of necessity, having to always assume we are being lied to.
I promise, no Republican wants to weld a chastity belt to your nethers. That is ridiculous. They would, however, like to keep physicians from cutting up the nethers of children.
I am a strong supporter of the rights to liberty of women to determine the course of their pregnancies, and I will confess to hypocrisy by approving limits on abortion at the point of viability. Republicans make clear they believe that women become community property when they are pregnant and that the state has the right to assert custodial authority over pregnancies.
Like I said here in the threads about that fortune from the Chinese restaurant. I expect I will with great self-control just end the conversation at the point where I must. I believe strongly in heeding warnings from the cosmos about my own behavior.
But how did he or the party became better because he was nearly assassinated? I don't get it. This guy is still establishment. A quakcine pusher and wef ass licker. The same elite uni-party member against the 'plebs'.
the system is rotten and we are discussing this here on substacks since years. And now you suddenly believe this system is not rotten to the core? That there is 'a' candidate at all??
And now you have most unfortunately brought to mind (even more unfortunately, I started it) that Alec Baldwin bit on SNL from some time ago about Shwetty Balls.
The man is indestructible. Lawfare didn't stop him, "COnviCteD FELon" didn't stop him, and neither has an assassination attempt - Now he looks like a goddamn American hero. God bless President Trump.
trump is a living, breathing example of antifragility. every attack on him just makes him stronger. it is amazing, I've seen anything like him in politics.
All the comments today about divine intervention and the extraordinary millimeter closeness to the bullet penetrating his head does give one pause for thought about it all. Just a slight turn of the head at exactly the right millisecond saved him. Pretty incredible.
I was skimming comments today and don’t usually bother to comment myself, but yours brought to mind a curious video I stumbled across years ago and have continued to ponder from time to time. In light of your comment (though I suspect you are joking!) I think you will find it quite interesting. You have to listen through a tiny bit of specific Catholic history (I’m not Catholic myself and I made it through!) but I think you’ll find it pretty fascinating if you listen through to the end regarding what is said about Trump - and yes, it is relevant to your comment. I’m not trying to scam you or anything! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV7kwMRzdo
Trump tough guy memes are going to replace Chuck Norris tough guy memes: “An assassin tried to kill Donald Trump, but the bullet got scared and wimped out at the last second!”
They will install trump, economy collapses, he introduces CBDCs and all the folks here will have an orgasm how good digital currency is for us. I guess this is how delusional people are ATM.
I’m really fond of the old orange man now, even more so now that many of his faults have been so thoroughly examined and exposed. Trial by fire I guess. He has confessed his sins and been forgiven. He doesn’t need to do this. And yet he persists. Remarkable man. So much stronger than anyone knew.
Yesterday, Megan Kelly showed a picture of an anti-sniper team on a low roof behind the stage Trump was on. Rifle on a low tripod and assuming a spotter sweeping the area with binoculars. One has to wonder how they did not see that man crawling up the roof to get in position.
I've now viewed the footage of the counter-sniper team multiple times – and the separate footage of Crooks on the building. One has the strong impression that they already had the assassin in their sights, and merely hesitated to engage him until after he opened fire. Just incredible.
I'm under the impression (though I don't know for certain) that the SS does not have particularly strict RoE. And "pointing a rifle at a protectee" would be *well* inside of them, anyway. If they saw the assassin on the roof and taking aim and *waited for him to fire first*, that's a completely unacceptable failure.
I saw a different still, a side view, two anti-sniper police with rifles, no spotters but you would think they would be looking at all possible threat sites opposite them.
Perhaps they were waiting for permission to shoot, but we’re having trouble getting a supervisor to ok it, since most of the Govt “works” at home these days….
I've read a few reasons why they didn't react as expected. One suggested those counter snipers were operating at a range beyond where the guy was. Another suggested they may have suspected a friendly, as happened back in the G W Bush days where SS nearly enagaged a local SWAT team by mistake.
Being a chucked European I don't know anything about guns, though.
Could they have been waiting for "permission" from the Biden admin. bigwigs in SS? Sort of like the snipers in Afghanistan waiting for the "OK" from back in Washington?
Oh, I'm sure those guys are great shots. My point was more that I'd have expected any roof only 130 yards away from the stage to *already have* a Secret Service agent on it. Or at least a couple of cops.
I don't. I have heard that it was a 5.56mm, but that only covers the ammo, and doesn't narrow the weapon down almost at all. And I could have easily heard wrong.
5.56 is kind of like someone answering "food" when asked what they had for dinner?
Thans for replying. While I have handled firearms and have a very healthy respect for them (Finger off the trigger! Gun is always loaded! as dad taught us) I'm don't have anywhere the knowledge needed to make judgement calls about what type of ammo or weapon falls within "reasonable" or "weird".
Well, not quite. "5.56mm" is going to almost certainly refer to "5.56x45mm NATO", the round that the M-16 and M-4 are chambered in, and the most common thing that the AR-15 is chambered in. But there are probably a hundred other rifles out there that are *also* chambered in 5.56mm, and it's one of the most common rifle calibers in the country, if not the single most common one.
So, less "food" and more "pizza". It narrows it down, but not much. ;)
I am now reading that it was an “AR-15 style” rifle. I’m going to presume that means “AR-15 parts compatible” rifle, and not merely “semi-automatic centerfire rifle” until told otherwise.
“AR-15 style” rifle is very roughly analogous to “x86 PC compatible” computer insofar as while “AR-15” in precise terminology is a specific brand and model of rifle (Colt Manufacturing Company) there are probably hundreds of companies producing AR-15 compatible parts, and it is entirely possible to build an “AR-15 style” rifle that contains exactly zero actual Colt made parts. Likewise, heading over to Newegg or wherever, one can mix and match parts to build a PC of whatever sort, because generally speaking, all of the parts will mostly work together.
I would mostly attribute that to the shooter likely being a leftist dweeb who thinks guns are magical wands of destruction. If someone has grown up their whole life thinking that the AR-15 is a flawless instrument of death that will -- in the words of the sitting president -- "just rip the body apart" and that "the bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun", then that person might not bother to actually practice, first.
Or, sure, I suppose it's possible that as other commenters have said, this is all pure Kabuki. If that's the case, then we might as well just squat down, put our heads between our knees, and kiss our own asses goodbye. *shrug* I'm pretty blackpilled, but apparently not quite *that* blackpilled yet. :D
Don't forget that he missed Trump because of how Trump moved his head to look at the screen to his right. The shooter didn't anticipate that and fired when Trump's head was at the other angle.
At 20 years old, is the shooter old enough to have had the practice to be a good marksman? Maybe, especially with military training or if he was raised in a gun family. But as an independent left-wing dweeb who was 13 when Trump was elected, he probably doesn’t have that much shooting experience.
" I'm pretty blackpilled, but apparently not quite *that* blackpilled yet"
Now is a good time to work on that. Don't feel bad, I've got a 20+ years headstart in that regard and I still keep falling for the most obvious psyops.
The people who were pointing out the shooter on the roof to police were right next to that building. They said they were outside the security perimeter.
I understand that it *was* outside of the perimeter. But until today I'd not have *expected* it to be outside of the perimeter. I'd have expected at least 500m, if not farther.
As an update, the man who died at the rally was Corey Comperatore. He threw his wife and daughter down on time and shielded his daughter from the bullet. This is so sad.
The great Victor Davis Hansen captured what he called the left’s “Assam action porn” on C this morning:
“ So since at least 2016 there has been a parlor game among Leftist celebrities and entertainers joking (one hopes), dreaming, imagining, and just talking about the various and graphic ways they would like to assassinate or seriously injure Trump:
By slugging his face (Robert De Niro), by decapitation (Kathy Griffin, Marilyn Manson), by stabbing (Shakespeare in the Park), by clubbing (Mickey Rourke), by shooting ( Snoop Dogg), by poisoning (Anthony Bourdain), by bounty killing (George Lopez), by carrion eating his corpse (Pearl Jam), by suffocating (Larry Whilmore), by blowing him up (Madonna, Moby), by throwing him over a cliff (Rosie O’Donnell), just by generic “killing” him (Johnny Depp, Big Sean), or by martyring him (Reid Hoffman: “Yeah, I wish I had made him an actual martyr.”).”
And, the left has now fired the first shot of what could be our next Civil War, just like they did in 1861…
CIA. Deliberate miss. Next one won't miss. And it won't be Trump. Biden. They have to remove him one way or another. This way, his dementia is forgotten. He big hero.
Ban rallies. Only TV. Deep fakes. 2nd amendment must be deleted. Safety first.
Ferment riots. Martial law. Mail in ballots.
Hilary and Mike Obama? Kamala and Hilary? Hilary and Barack?
I’d be afraid to get aboard DJTs airplane. Cartels supposedly have MANPADS and they smuggle everything else into the USA. Imagine a Russian/ Chinese/Iranian missile being used. A false narrative flag and a real war… or two.
it is amazing, that jan6 is immediately called an insurrection, but an attempt to murder a president is just a fall... this distinguishes real press from fake. Luckily the first I read was Epoch times, who called the thing by its name. An assassination attempt. No matter whether you like or dislike the man, this is unheard of - apart from the two Kennedy who lost their lives in similar settings. In the meanwhile, a man who dare to joke with Hillary is behind bars. This says something - you cannot meme that texting to this number is like voting, but having fake Donald heads bleeding - and then the real one bleeding - oh well... I really hope the man recovers quickly (I think it was not so bad after all, but one died and 2 are wounded as well) and to be honest, I would not mind if he won. I think these were 4 years he should have righteously be in the WH that have been taken from him, and the more they scream about it, and block him, the more I am convinced that I am right.
The lying left with their media toadies always set the narrative and it tends to stick. And most of the right just lay there supine and unable/unwilling to protest.
When we restore a legitimate federal government, when the DHS, DoInjustice/FBI, Secret Service, IC, HHS, etc... are no longer in criminal hands…there will be hell to pay.
I’m not interested in revenge. I’d prefer the gutting or non-existence of most of these 3 letter agencies and the return of the federal government to its rightful place- subservient to the will of each individual state. Shrink and/or disappear these agencies. It’s the only way forward.
Yes indeedy and even though I must vote a straight Republican ticket now, I know there are no Republicans with the guts and integrity to get that job done. It's just that the other side must be made to lose.
I’m still not planning to vote at the federal level. Can’t shake the feeling that my vote is my consent. And post-covid tyranny, I can’t consent.
But I had thought of Trump as mostly a sh*t-disturber. A scrappy showman who disappointed me in the early weeks of covid times. And I seriously underestimated him. He has real physical courage. I get why you want to vote for him.
I've been saying since 2016 that none of the candidates is worthy of my vote etc. etc. etc., and as an ex-Noo Yawkuh myself I've known of Trump all my adult life and he is a profoundly damaged man without the capacity of self-mastery.
And then in the crucial moment yesterday afternoon he showed something preternaturally not of his natural temperament. Maybe that'll last, maybe it won't.
Maybe I'll burst into flames the second I've cast my ballot. I'll regret leaving before my time, really. But sometimes you just gotta step up to the moment yourself.
I wouldn't delude myself that anyone at the federal level gives a damn whether you vote or not. They certainly won't notice your non-vote, if anything they welcome that. Fewer actual votes to mess with. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote against egregious people. And then hope that in the next round you can vote for good people you like and support.
I hear you. It goes a bit deeper than that for me, though. If, for example, 99/100 people vote in favor of mandatory vaccination, does it make it alright because a vote was held and voting is democratic? Is it proper for me to go to the polls and impose my will upon others, or for others to go to the polls and impose their will upon me? If I am filled with disgust at the lecherous, bloated tentacles of the federal government, is it appropriate for me to vote federally at all? Democrat or Republican, the government is abusing us. I don’t have to choose between abusers.
Consider this possibility: RINO's are RINO's because they lack courage (and are beholden to their donors). Should Democrats fall, and a few more principled Republicans come forward, might those weak links discover some testicularly-derived hormonal strength?
You should pardon me but that is a--well, insert expletives of your choice here--excuse. Decent tough Republicans went extinct in my lifetime.
Trump has never been a Republican; he whored himself out to the evangelicals to get the nomination and win the first election.
And maybe now he has finally discovered who and what he really is underneath all the idiotic bluster and the failure to find a zipper lock.
Nobody needs more Republicans or Democrats. We need an independent populace who will not vote for anyone who does not uphold our foundational principles.
I'm not quite as impressed by Trump's possibly "discovering who he really is". He's a born showman, although it is impressive that he managed to overcome the trauma of the moment to strike that frankly inspiring pose.
That was the thing. It was not wanting to be hustled away without his shoes, and his instinct to reassure the crowd. In that moment he was taking care of his people as a wise and courageous leader. Even if it's only that moment, it was there and it was real.
As a Beltway Bandit defector skilled in large scale network procurement bids w all it's evil loophole and Enron accounting tricks where RFP are truly won or lost & caveats or clauses can be undetected future windfalls.. gotta stop but that's largely the top tier appointee dirtbags. We had substantial contact w individual agency staff who did the real work & overwhelmingly dedicated to the idea they serve the public & oath sworn to the Constitution is unconditional. Chop off the head and let the stifled workers flourish in doing the jobs they want to do.
I look at it like I would look at buying a business. If it's just bad management; that can be changed. If it's insolvent; well that can't.
That would be taking on too much risk, to only find out, even the best new management would most likely bankrupt you. Both the fundamentals and it's management are broke...and it's captured.
Start over and decentralize into a more distributive model imo.
We Americans have a solution to most of our political/public/civic/fiscal problems right under our noses: the Constitution. Follow it to the letter. Our country should be a loose agglomeration of fifty sovereign states, with an explicit option to opt out of the Republic.
1. Building complex roof top used by shooter about a 150 meter direct line of site from Trump. Really.
2. Complex was outside of "security perimeter" and not part of secret service advance team threat assessment. Really. That short of a distance with clear line of site was not threat enough to be included in security perimeter. Really.
3. Guy with rifle climbs on roof via ladder and not one security asset witnessess event. Really.
4. While guy is crawling for "minutes" towards shooting position, bystanders are providing verbal and physical (pointing) directional cues to security detail and not one counter-sniper asset gets eyes on the guy...even when he is more exposed in the shooting position. Really.
5. Only after the guy shoots do the counter sniper agents engage him. Really. BTW, do the secret service rules of egagement state engagement of lethal threat can occur only after the threat acts? Really. Go pull a gun on Biden at close range but dont pull trigger and see what happens. Makes zero difference if threat is 1 meter of 150 meters out. Really.
6. The ONLY thing that saved Trump was his fortuitous head movement to his right after the first shot and a low skilled shooter who did not account for the slight wind per weather at the time that would have altered round trajectory at that distance. Really.
The same people that are gonna come out today and say that we need to turn down the volume on the rhetoric are going to try to put Trump in prison in a couple weeks. I don't think there's a political solution to the issue of the left in the west
We are getting much closer to open war with these people...
Biden's J6 unduly prosecutions of old ladies standing on the Capital steps while letting real criminals out of prison is an effort to try to get MAGAs to attack. It's pure baiting.
I think you are right. And when this happens they will say, see, they are violent and dangerous. So the thing to do is wait and keep calm no matter how hard it is.
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To a point, I agree.
Conflict doesn't need to be violent, which I don't advocate because it's dumb and unnecessary...It can simply be Irish style non-cooperation...
I think what will happen is an acceleration of interest in secession and such things...getting away from DC and using State power....
lol, squish..
Standard Operating Procedure of the Communist Ideology
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Yes, we should be mostly peaceful.
My question is how did the boy get up on that roof?
I’ve seen pics of the back of building (allegedly). The loading dock has a storage cabinet staged on it. I’m old and I could make that climb.
There's a picture circulating on X with a ladder propped up against the building.
I saw that also.
Agreed.
I suppose the killer could've hauled a ladder on top of his car, but it would be rather conspicuous and suspicious unless he did it days earlier.
I sure hope not. Nonetheless: ammo, water and MREs. If it goes down, be prepared to defend your family. If the Gates of Hell open up, the police will NOT be coming.
Jefferson, I agree!!! We have guns, ammo, water and a “ToGoBag”. I can count on no one but myself.
Where will you ‘go’?
Good question Cathleen. That’s what I asked my hubby while he was packing the bag. His response “to the mountains/forest… anywhere the enemy isn’t”. He’s made a plan. Not sure what would constitute an emergency that would force us to grab the bag and go. I pray it never happens - I’m not the “camping outside/survival type girl”. LOL
They'll be coming. It just won't be to save you.
The bear will take only so much poking before it shows it's teeth. When those fearsome fangs and flesh ripping claws finally come out, the communists behind these "fundamental changes" will sneak back under the rocks to hibernate until a better opportunity arises for their evil.
And they want us to be the ones to start it.
It seems increasingly doubtful, indeed. First they rig the game, then, when it becomes apparent that they are losing control of the narrative, they become violent. First in rhetoric, then in deed. I fear worse is still to come.
Such calls can come from "our side", too. This morning I saw a "both sides must tone down the rhetoric" article on a conservative opinion site. I don't think the times call for such RINO-like sentiments. We need Pattons, not Gomer Pyles.
Gotta love the false equivalence between playground insults like "sleepy Joe" or "crooked Hilary" and calling someone a clear and present danger to the American republic
The peanut butter keeps hitting the fan. Eventually we need to clean the peanut butter up. It’s not gonna clean itself. It’s simply a matter of how much peanut butter we tolerate and how we clean it up. Personally I’m not much for drowning in peanut butter.
Right on
On this we disagree...
This is what they are praying for...to justify the real clampdown
Agree here.
No. We actually agree. Read some of my comments on gato's stack
Ryan Which Gato post? If today I am not a sub
The same people saying today that we need to "tone down the rhetoric" would all be gleefully celebrating Trump's death had the attempt succeeded.
YM, your statement is not true. I am not a trump fan and I am very glad he was not killed. We do need to act decently to one another.
Ya'll are being played by cnnbbc... hahahaha
Videos - Reagan Shooting vs Trump Shooting
Notice the difference...
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/reagan-shooting-vs-trump-shooting
This reinforces my assertion https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-dumbest-species-ever
The solution starts with getting government expunged from all education.
This is the prediction I made:
I can’t help wondering if yesterday’s assassination attempt is the first act in a play, where the next act will involve a Trump supporter successfully assassinating Biden, having been serenely plotted by strategists like those in this Network scene:
• https://youtube.com/watch?v=wr-TychE8Vk
It’s a win-win-win for the cruelites:
1) They get rid of Biden without the political cost of losing face.
2) Biden becomes a martyr who can no longer be criticized and can be used to serve the greater cause.
3) The DNC can replace him with their preferred puppet.
4) They can still rig the election without it looking suspicious.
5) The Trump supporter (and by association, Trump) are vilified as far-right–wing fascist extremists, justifying a ramp-up in the War on Domestic Terrorism.
6) The media make out like bandits on the entertainment value of the unfolding play.
Perhaps we can foil the plot if so many people see this prediction, they know they won’t be able to get away with it.
• https://x.com/MargaretAnnaAl1/status/1812508609823338924
• https://substack.com/@margaretannaalice/note/c-61962841
• https://substack.com/profile/35383324-margaret-anna-alice/note/c-61965202
• https://substack.com/profile/35383324-margaret-anna-alice/note/c-61969166
The only problem with your theory is that Trump was only narrowly not killed. You wouldn't try to pull off an almost assassination that close just to try to get someone else to pull off a successful one. Also, if Trump had been killed, steps 2 through 6 in your scenario would not be necessary. I am on the fence about whether this was a plot or just a twisted loner. But it does seem like an awful lot of planning for a single twisted loner.
Yes. This particular loner seems to have been well-connected. I work in rock concerts that have security that is more on the job
agree, pathetic security detail. I thought Trump had kept his own personal detail but found out he dropped them in 2018.
He needs to get his private security back. He can't trust any government agent.
Without a VP pick, if Trump dies who would replace him? Little Marco? Tim Scott? Most likely it would be Nuke'm Nikki, stooge of the MIC. With Trump gone, the RNC would be in even greater disarray than the DNC.
Vivek
My guess is that one would be selected at the convention.
Of course, but who? There is clear no runner up except for Nikki Haley.
Nikki Haley is on the wrong side.
That's where my mind goes, as well. DeSantis, maybe, but he's a sitting governor.
Donald Trump Jr. See my comments on this further down in this thread.
It isn’t necessary to go through all the trouble of firing actual bullets at Trump when stage blood can do the trick. Trump doesn’t even have to be in on it as the secret service could have applied it when they pulled him down.
Your intuition about the single twisted loner is spot on as history reveals that has rarely if ever been the case in spectacles like this.
And the dead spectators? You really think Trump used a fake bullet hole in his ear?
you know govt and pseudo-govt consider killed bystander collateral damage. We don't count
What Ingrid said.
We are nothing to them.
Sorry to disagree with you Margaret, but there is the problem of one corpse and two critically injured people. This was no fake. Further, you don't have to try to kill Trump in order to stage an assassination attempt on Biden. You've been screaming for two years that Trump's followers are deranged. Why not just use the dodgy conviction in NY as the motivating rationale for killing Biden?
Not a problem at all. As Ingrid said, real bullets can be used for the irrelevant plebes.
The dodgy conviction is already old news and has been upstaged by Biden's debate faceplant. The Democrats are in full-on panic mode and need a Hollywood-style spectacle to divert the public's attention and steer us toward their desired outcomes.
I'm pretty sure Trump would notice whether he had actually been injured or not, though. We're way off the Occam's Razor path here.
Not necessarily given the superficiality of the injury, and then there’s always the possibility Trump was in on it if Donald Jeffries’s Trumpenstein hypothesis is true:
• https://donaldjeffries.substack.com/p/trumpenstein-and-the-death-of-politics
As Frank Zappa famously said, “Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex.”
I do not understand how this attempted assassination (really SS holds him down behind podium to apply fake means you feel Trump was involved, even if not with forehand knowledge, but after the fact.
My eyes do not deceive me, this was a true murder attempt. Regardless, how does the far left (all dems these days) benefit from this. Donald becomes even more of a folk hero now, not less.
Even as a distractive event I cannot see how it benefits the left. Help me get there- seriously. Unless their ultimate goal is to quietly figure out how to have Joe lose to get rid of him deceptively and “quietly” while misdirectly handwringing chagrin over his lost 2 nd term. As much as they revile Mr Trump maybe they are so afraid of Pres Biden they are willing to forsake 4 years to plan for the next legacy dem.
Long game…..?
You ask valid questions and raise good points.
Regarding the SS holding him down, one of them could have applied the blood in the scramble without him realizing exactly what was occurring due to the chaos.
You are absolutely right about the far left not benefiting from this particular act as it makes Trump even more of a folk hero than he already was. When my mom texted me this news yesterday, my first assumption was that this was a deep-state assassination attempt, and I said, “Don’t they realize that’s going to make him even *more* popular?! His handlers aren’t going to be happy he failed.”
On later reflection, I realized of course they understand the Streisand effect, so they would know this would trigger even more support for Trump (whether as a martyr or attempted target), Trump’s record-breaking fundraising success after his “felony convictions” being proof of that.
That’s when the hypothesis I shared here popped into my head. I shared it not because I’m certain it’s true but because if it is, we may be able to stop it by articulating it in advance.
And yes, the long game is exactly right—that’s why I described this as Act One, which is an apparent win for Trump and his supporters but could be used to set the scene for a “deranged far-right–wing extremist Trump supporter” assassinating Biden, thus checking off every item on the cruelites’ wishlist in regards to the November election. They insert the globalist puppet of their choosing, rig the election as planned, and people won’t question the results with the same incredulity they would if it were Biden.
You may be interested in Donald Jeffries’s take since he has decades of expertise in assassinations, false flags, and legitimate conspiracies:
• https://donaldjeffries.substack.com/p/the-trump-shooting-so-many-questions
Now I really do need to get to work ;-)
There is a high speed photo showing the bullet in the air by trumps head and the blood on Trump before he went down. Conspiracy theorists need to spend time asking the right questions - not trying to erase actual events that the media itself tried to downplay until they were confirmed.
The FBI says that’s what it was, so I’m sure it’s true :-) And I know they would never-ever use Photoshop or collude with “New York Times” journalists on the fabrication of evidence.
As William Blum wrote:
“No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine.”
sorry u seem demented, no offense
No offense taken 😆 I know I must be onto something when the name-calling and smear-slinging start ;-)
“You start collecting libels like Purple Hearts. The more scars you can count, the more evidence of your efficacy, your threat to the hegemony.” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-mainstream-straddler)
Except, you neglect the critical fact that your favored sources of collusion despise Trump and would never cover for him, regardless of payoff. Remember the last 1st Amendment SC decision. The govt/media complex is vehemently against anything that would make Pres Trump a victim, which he clearly was here.
Pray tell, how did JFK and MLK pull off their stunts.? I know what you will state, but, proof?
You’re right in that the government/media complex is vehemently against Trump, and yet the media profits lucratively off of him (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dbloom/2018/11/05/happy-election-season-media-donald-trump-has-been-very-good-for-you/) and the government/deep state/globalists have used Trump Derangement Syndrome to manipulate the public for years, so why would they kill the golden goose?
As I wrote in October 2021:
“An unwitting Goldstein, Trump played right into BigPharma’s strategy to discredit hydroxychloroquine by praising it—giving Trump Derangement Syndrome (a psychological disorder manufactured by and spread to tremendous monetary benefit and turnkey mass control by the media) sufferers the best and only reason they needed to dismiss it. They have been trained to plug their ears, cover their eyes, scream at the top of their lungs, and stamp their feet the instant any one of the Deplorables opens his mouth. One of the most effective instruments in the plutocracy’s toolkit, TDS has been brandished to misdirect the public for years, and it continues to work its magic despite Trump’s declining relevance, the embers of which the media will continue to fan as long as it pays dividends—just as Goldstein’s detested image is deployed in culturally unifying activities such as Two Minutes Hate.” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-scientifically-minded)
And yes, I know the part about his declining relevance is no longer valid, but it was worth pointing out in 2021 because TDS sufferers were still tantrum-throwing over Trump, even though he was no longer in office and had not yet declared his candidacy.
Quite so.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/breaking-news-trump-shot-at-rally
Are you sniffing paint too? So sad. You embarrass yourself so bad that it embarrasses me also, in sympathy!
Wow!!! Everyone knows JFK and MLK Jr used stage tricks to fake assassination.
Maybe they are the real puppeteers. Sheesh.
Although your last paragraph is most always true,
You’re making a false equivalency, William :-) That’s the sort of logical fallacy I expect propagandists to deploy when they’re trying to get the public to dismiss a legitimate question by associating it with a ridiculous claim.
Sounds like you are using same tactic you claim of others. It is your massive conspiracy theory, not mine! Please don’t attempt to deflect. Remember, I respond to your thoughts, I did not create them. So, deflection aside (and fancy dictionary words).
Seems to me, you know the only “legitimate” question is yours and those in your fan club.
Anything else, in your erudite opinion is nonsense and propaganda.
Perfectly Pepe le Jean Pierre of you.
Trump also blew up WTC Building Seven!
He's also secretly Bigfoot. That's why he lost his shoes.
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Clown/
Are you suggesting Russiagate?
https://www.rt.com/news/601034-photo-trump-assassination-attem
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSaDvF6XYAA7rR1?format=jpg&name=900x900pt-bullet/
Just maybe Trump turned against the deep state this time so they decided to take him out with an amateur to distract from the recent Biden debacle. If the amateur missed then they have deniability but the SS did not do the job properly so right there is the weak link.
The first scenario aside, the next few predictions are frighteningly plausible. Conveniently rigging Biden's exit and pinning it on maga "extremists" is a win-win indeed. They would then attempt to ride the wave all the way through to alleged victory. In fact, it wouldn't matter if it was a hit or a miss on Trump's life - or even if it was carried out by by a plant or a nutjob. It opens the door for "retaliatory" action, and thus the next scenes would unfold.
It’s staged, like most everything nowadays. Part of the Op
it does seem like an awful lot of planning for a single twisted loner.
Democrats never let a crisis go to waste. I feel the above scenario is very plausible.
ah yes, the single twisted loner, hmmm, a bit like LHO, no? As Eugy says, and I agree, this incident will incite many, many, 'conspiracy theories' and distract everyone!
You think a 20-year-old misanthropic "William Tell" was hired to nearly miss Trump and then offer himself as a sacrificial lamb to the deep state as part of some elaborately orchestrated election scheme? Thanks, we'll be in touch.
Except that Trump would have died if he hadn’t turned his head. A surprisingly good shot for a kid on a roof 🤔
400 feet isn't a crazy shot for someone who shoots regularly, especially if the shooter has a decent optical sight (I don't know if Mr. Crooks' rifle had any optics on it, or if Mr. Crooks was an experienced shooter - the fact he was wearing the t-shirt of a gun-focused youtube channel suggests he was a gun enthusiast, but that doesn't prove anything). Trump got *very* lucky, and whoever was responsible for not putting a LEO on that roof in advance deserves to find a new line of work.
The head of the SS (an unfortunate acronym, I suggest) is a woman called Cheatle. She just recently said they didn't because it was too steep! I kid you not. Have you seen the pictures of both the shooter's vantage point and that of the snipers who shot him immediately after he fired? Which would you say was the steeper?
Her name seems to be another example of the phenomenon of convergence between name and nature. Anyway she's undoubtedly for the chop come a Trump Presidency, DEI or not.
An easy shot for a casual shooter. Fortunately, he missed by a lot, unless he used a poor Chinese knock-off.
He didn't miss 'by a lot'; the Gateway Pundit has a graphic of a computer generated trajectory line showing Trump was a few scant millimetres from a fatal headshot. His last millisecond head tilt (at the screen to his right) saved his life.
Correct.
That boy was another triumph for mainstreaming which ensures that unhappy lonely boys grow up to be entirely utterly isolated because they have no peer group friends and normal life is inexplicable to them.
I agree but that wasn't my point. An absurd idea was raised that the shooter was hired to drliberatly miss Trump as Act I of some three act "election play."
No one is that good a shot. A centimeter closer and he'd be as dead as JFK.
That is how I read it as well. Too much of a James Bond scenario for me to swallow. I will say however, that hitting a moving target at 150 yards from a prone position on a roof is not as easy as some people seem to think it is. Either this kid practiced an awful lot, or he had training.
I have a rifle like this. This is NOT a hard shot, if the rifle had a scope on it. And I am not the best of marksmen, either, but I can reliably put bullets in a paper target at 200 yards within a six inch circle.
From the prone position, most people with minimal training in marksmanship could do the same.
But the idea that someone had the skill to clip an ear on someone moving their head in an unpredictable motion at 148 yards with a light breeze defies logic.
That is correct. He was thankfully a poor shot.
How long have you been shooting and how many rounds do you put through your rifle every week? What position do you shoot from? Are you balanced on a slippery rooftop? Is there something alive at the other end of the range when you're shooting? Is it moving? How do you feel about putting holes in a paper target versus flesh and blood? All of those things matter.
Agree I'm a little above average shot and there's no doubt I could've hit a target that big from a football field away...especially with 8 rounds
"Either this kid practiced an awful lot, or he had training."
Or he simply lived in Pennsylvania.
Correct. Back in the day, (1990s) in Amish country, I was a basketball coach in a middle school. On the first Friday of hunting season, 8th graders would put their rifles in their lockers in the mornings to leave early in the afternoon.
Training-lots of it. MK Ultra anybody?
Americans love a great James Bond film. Just sayin'.
If he was a regular at the range, there will be a record of his sessions, and of his purchases. Every gun safety class I have taken is easy public record--if Feds want it.
"uhh, ok, great idea, but when you shoot at my head, you think you can just graze my earlobe a bit?"
lololol
Here is something interesting. From an AP story, "Crooks tried out for the school's rifle team but was turned away because he was a bad shooter, said Frederick Mach, a current captain of the team who was a few years behind Crooks at the school."
Hired to deliberately miss a 400 foot shot headshot by millimeters, seems risky for someone who's already far in the lead in the election?
How good a shot must he have been if he was hired to do it?
According to a BBC report, the rifle in question was purchased by Crooks' father six months ago. Why he purchased it is anyone's guess. I understand that both of Crooks' parents were social workers of some kind.
Absurd indeed..... garbage. delusional garbage
Yes, I know. People must advertise their products.
How about allowing evil into ones life. It is evil, no matter what the background.
That’s not what I said :-)
You may want to do a little research on MK-Ultra and the role of intelligence agencies in past assassinations, mass-shooting events, and color revolutions before you smugly dismiss the possibility of their involvement, however.
RFK Jr., for example, believes “Sirhan may have been subjected to coercive hypnosis, in a real-life version of “The Manchurian Candidate”:
• https://web.archive.org/web/20180601023713/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/
Robert Jay Lifton’s “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of 'Brainwashing' in China” reveals further techniques that can be used in such a scenario.
I KNOW all about that. Thanks. But a REAL deep state operation wouldn't have missed the target. When the Deep State took out JFK, you think they were counting on bullets from Lee Harvey Oswald's gun to perform some "magic bullet trick?" We're talking about the people who not long ago murdered a Supreme Court Chief Justice in his bed.
There was actually an episode of the original Hawaii Five-O series where a sniper was hired to intentionally execute a near-miss assassination.
That wasn't this guy.
Ah, but that assumes the aim was to assassinate Trump rather than creating the pretense for a "deranged Trump supporter" to assassinate Biden as I outlined in my hypothesis.
I am open to the possibility that this kid was a CIA asset. But in that case, why not just kill Trump? Problem solved. It is the rest of your scenario, which depends on a failed assassination attempt that I find hard to accept.
Kill Trump and make a martyr out of him? Think about the downstream effects of that as it would cement his legacy as a hero, and then Donald Trump Jr. could amass instantaneous support as his successor candidate.
He has no "replacement" because he so thoroughly destroyed his potential challengers in what I mockingly refer to as the recent Republican Primary. Even the very competent Ron DeSantis, whom I liked, is still lacking his wounds.
True, but think about the history of dynasties in the lineage of American presidents. Donald Jr. would immediately inherit all of the cachet of his father, and people would stampede to the polls to voice their support of Trump by proxy.
Always consider what Bernays outlined in “Crystallizing Public Opinion” and “Propaganda,” the latter of which includes the quote:
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
“We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.…
“In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons—a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million—who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.”
Those who forget the dark arts of public-opinion engineering and mass control remain susceptible to this conscious and intelligent manipulation of their beliefs.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Well at least Trump passed the physical fitness test...
Hey, that s what a guy I follow on X said :)
Nice. He's brilliant...lolol
lol, I saw that too, Perzactly the same words! lol
Interesting prediction, but Biden is no threat to anyone any more so I doubt the narrative of this prediction would hold together
Biden is absolutely a threat if he refuses to step aside, as he has, and no one on the planet would buy him as the victor when they rig the election in November.
Biden has definitely been gumming up the works. He didn't stay on plan to just serve one term.
Biden refusing to step aside doesn’t prevent him from being replaced at the convention. It’s still ultimately up to the delegates.
And…wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s a psy-op which “they” cause much like J6
J6 was DEFINITELY a setup. Look how much mileage they got out of an unarmed group of grannies and grandpas who thought the police were letting them into the Capitol for three-hour tour (not Gilligan's Island lol).
If you want to entertain some additional J6 shenanigans, I believe the DNC pipe bomb in which the FBI is suspiciously disinterested was intended to remove Kamala, who everyone knows was selected to help dottering Biden over the finish line. Biden would have then picked a more deep-state friendly "Brutus" veep who would have been ready to take over from President Pant-shitter when his senility cover was blown... like now. But something went wrong (for them) and now they're in a quandary.
after so many lies, who can still believe anything at all.
Won't happen. The Biden campaign is committing suicide.
I truly hate liking this post. We have to do better than them, because we are better.
Makes sense but so dark it makes my stomach sick
I don't think Biden assination was planned ahead but I think they could be planning it now since the attempt to kill Trump failed. They need to get rid of Biden somehow.
Or maybe they were planning an assassination of Biden but this loan wolf ruined the plans lol
Could still go thru with it though.
I've been having this thought since yesterday too. Biden being taken out solves several problems the deep state is currently facing and allows them to crack down harder on Trump supporters.
Possibly true, straw man events. Clearly this was a college corrupted sycophant who had delusions of grandeur and martyrdom. Clearly deranged.
No doubt SS, FBI, NSA, CIA already have the plan in place for a pseudo-MAGA disciple to attempt Biden assassination. Likely Biden will not be killed , but incapacitated (as though his warped cognition ain’t that) such that he vacates presidency. Just when we thought things could not be worse, along comes kamel, ugh.
The utter disdain and incompetence of police and SS seem to indicate this was a known and planned event. Dude carries a gun 400 to feet from Mr. Trump then shoots. Security, nah. That is for American citizens showing up to vote.
Reeks of rampant planned corruption throughout the ranks.
It would be stupid to kill Biden and blame it on MAGA. It would be an obvious false flag for two reasons:
First, if you want Biden dead, all you have to do is wait.
Second, the only thing worse than President Biden would be President Harris. Nobody wants that.
Being an obvious false flag has never stopped them in the past!
Waiting for Biden to die is too risky with the election right around the corner. More importantly, the shock-and-awe value of an assassination makes it too tempting a tool to resist in the psychological warfare that will be used to usher in the next totalitarianism-excusing crisis.
If it’s an October surprise, Harris won’t be in the driver’s seat for long, and as is evident from Biden’s regency, just because you put a steering wheel in front of a toddler doesn’t mean the toddler is driving.
Sadly, MAA's hypothesis - as elaborated in subsequent posts - makes the most sense. Key point bears repeating because it is somewhat counter-intuitive for a sane person:
>>Being an obvious false flag has never stopped them in the past!<<
Scary but certainly plausible.
Consider this:
the Donors see that the Biden's will not relent, they are probs asking too much. Pardons and money and some kind of historical legacy (both Joe and Jill are obsessed with legacy). I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't wake up one day. If Harris becomes the 1st black female president, it won't last long. The tyrannical DNC governors who are deeply loved by the donors don't have a chance with voters, imho.
The 'attempt' could go a few ways but it was clearly orchestrated and, as the facts emerge, the shooter was clearly allowed to proceed. Trump, ever the opportunist, rose to his feet and shook his fist. Beautifully done. Truly remarkable.
While we the world is watching this with intensity (like the Chinese air balloon on SuperBowl Sunday), what is going on elsewhere that we do not see?
What an amazing time to be alive when peace is in our hearts.
Jill is probably more of a narcissistic self- promoted than cadaver Joe (thanks Ryan :)). She is his Rasputin and he is too stupid to realize she would gladly throw him to the wolves - as she has done numerous times already - for personal prestige and noteriety. She views as her puppet, her personal stairway to personal acclaim. That ain’t love, that is unadulterated man stipulation and abuse of the demented.
She and obummer control sleazy Joe.
this is some bullshit
I said pretty much the same thing to a friend this morning.
Like many, I am really impressed and amazed by Trumps reaction to being shot. Nobody knows how they would react in the same situation, I'd like to think I would have the same fearlessness. With Trump - we know.
Second, we really do live in the age of incompetence. By any riflemans standard, this was an easy shot. And thank god for that, the shooter was a lousy shot. And the SS managing to fuck up the coverage, the reaction, and the evacuation is really remarkable.
This election is his now. But I believe the regime will get desperate now.
That was one of my first thoughts too. No question about fight or flight - we saw fight kick in. We actually don’t consciously control that - it’s innate.
Trump's a born showman. We already knew that.
Not a difficult shot from a technical perspective but he had to clamber up there, apparently threaten off a local cop(!), set up, then take his shot - all while flooded with adrenaline and knowing he had seconds to live.
I’m reasonably good with an AR and I was wondering idly to myself last night whether I’d manage it. Hard to say.
Trump turned his head. The shot was probably spot on but Divine Intervention...
Fair enough, adrenaline gets a vote for sure.
agree
'Many people – including many of my readers – have predicted that something like this would happen for a very long time.'
It was inevitable. The thing that surprises me is that it took so long for someone to take a shot at him.
I'm no fan of Trump, but if his speech on the morning of January 6 is considered impeachment-worthy incitement, what about the Left's campaign of the last few years claiming that Donald Trump is literally Satan on earth and an existential threat to democracy?
Ha. Just try telling that to any of your liberal friends.
Please be with me in spirit tomorrow when I have that weekly call with My Friend from Fifth Grade and tell her that I've changed my mind about not voting for any candidate.
Pretty sure you'll do just fine. 55 years of practice
64.
I always look forward to reports about Your Friend From Fifth Grade.
I have a grip of steel on myself to not tell her she's the star of my commentary. That would of course permanently blow things up and as I have previously explained I'm in it for the duration. We had an estrangement of 16 years and it made me miserable and finally I had to end it. There are some people, there's no proper word for them. "Friends" is not enough and "like sisters" is untruthful. It's just there's a hole in your life if they're not in it.
Here's the update from today, Monday:
I cut the conversation short after she told me that Trump didn't really get shot, it was fake blood, a conspiracy by the Republicans to drum up sympathy for him, and the guy who got killed and the two other men wounded were some sort of mishap in the plan.
Ha. As an inveterate reader of mysteries, when something like this happens I can't help spinning various scenarios as mystery plots. That was of course one of them, especially because that fist-in-the-air pose seems made for TV. However, the collateral injuries in my plot would've been faked.
We can speculate all we want, but anyone who insists a particular theory is true is blowing smoke.
Close-up photos of Trump's face in the moment show his shock, and I could see, in the live broadcast from the Republican Convention, how pale he was under the bronzer.
The iconic photo was taken after he'd got his shoes back on and told his idiot SS detail to wait for a moment before hustling him away. It's the very first photos that show the genuineness of the moment.
In my view of course.
I agree that's the most likely explanation. Sometimes I deplore my descent into total cynicism. BTW "blowing smoke" is more applicable to your friend. In my view.
Is this the friend you previously wrote about? It will be interesting?
It may be a very short conversation because I expect her to shriek into my ear that she always knew I was a Trumper (though she was the only one of the two of us who has ever voted for him). I shall be fortified by that Chinese restaurant fortune I got by mistake last month when I was handed the wrong bag of takeout food, discovered that only after getting home, and decided to just go ahead and eat it since there was nothing in it I wouldn't like. And the restaurant gave me a ten dollar credit in penitence.
Anyway that fortune said "Be kind to others, even when it's not easy." So my anticipated enjoyment of egg foo young was sacrificed to A Higher Purpose.
👍 The things we do for "The Cause" ... 😉🙂
But some reason to argue, as others have done, that this "incident" is likely to rally others to Trump's flag. Reminds me of a quip by Churchill:
"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/winston_churchill_100445
Sadly, a great deal of rot on both the Democrat and Republican sides -- I really don't envy Americans having to make that choice. Though too many are just toeing the Party lines without much thought involved.
The minute--the second!--I saw that clip of him with the bloody face and the fist raised and the flag behind him I knew he'd won the election.
And when he said "let me put on my shoes" I had no choice. None. They did this to me and add it to the list of unforgiveables.
I immediately got a text from my sister: "Well, Trump just won the election."
"nice" when events "conspire" to justify our preferred choices ... 😉🙂
But I very much sympathize -- unless there's a sea-change on the Democrat side -- particularly about Title IX, transgenderism, DEI, BLM, and many other issues -- I kind of think they're toast.
I still can't help wondering how his shoes got pulled off.
I love that Churchill quote, saving it.
Speaking as an American, I've long resented being expected to choose between two unpalatable options, and I'm encouraging anyone who will listen to vote for a third-party candidate. *Any* third-party candidate. We need to send a message.
"Speaking as a Canadian... 😉🙂", I can sympathize -- we have 3 or 4 more or less viable parties to choose from.
But the two-party system there in the US is certainly rather "problematic", the nature of the beast. Though think it's too late now to be voting for any third -party candidates -- maybe next time around.
But reminds me of a classic from Mark Twain that speaks rather directly, and damningly, to that problem:
MT: "Men think they think upon great political questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
https://www.paulgraham.com/cornpone.html
A "mush of mutilated morals", indeed.
RFK jr is probably the only one who could beat either. If enough people decided to do that, it would definitely send a message. Though not sure how he’d be as a president. (Lots of mixed things about him)
In the end, I've done that in every other election I've voted in. Trump is unpalatable... and if they'd just let it go after he left office, there's no chance I've be voting for him this year. But they didn't, and now I'm going to.
Has everyone forgotten that in his farewell speech, outgoing president George Washington warned about the evils of the two party system?
Different rules apply to the left and right:
- The left, being the good people, can say anything, because anything they say comes from their morally superior standards.
- The right, may not even talk, because we are selfish, homophobes, climate change deniers, etc.
The crazy thing is that around 50% of the population of any western country thinks this way.
And Biden 5 d earlier urging/suggesting putting a bull's-eye on DJT. How is that not some shade of criminal?
Ordinary civilians have been imprisoned for such threats.
Thank you —but of course Mr. B is not one of these nor his son
Would this fall under "official act of the president"?
Interesting, right after SCOTUS ruling.
Wasn't there a big brouhaha about a Sarah Palin putting bull's-eyes over the pictures of select D politicians a few years back? Nothing really happened there besides media outrage.
Anytime something like this happens, people start blowing standard political hyperbole out of proportion.
remember Hilary fans (and I think herself) with a rubber trump head full of blood? I remember the pic very well because even though I don't like the man, this is just something you don't do.
Well, he's just won the election now. And as I said last night over in Simulation Commander's parlor, I'm gonna need escorts to the polling station to hush me as a howl bursts from my kishkes while I trash all my principles and vote a straight Republican ticket.
Nothing--nothing was going to make me do that. Nothing. And here we are. And there's lots and lots of mes now, who may loathe the Republican Party in every possible way but finally cannot deny that the Democrats must lose everything everywhere.
You didn't catch, maybe, that immediately following the failed assassination, the Biden campaign paused all TV advertising. Biden's ersatz balls had him shrieking the day before about how Trump is an evil evil man. Joey, I know evil and you better look in a mirror though you're beyond recognizing faces now.
Don’t underestimate the Republican ability to snatch defeat from jaws of victory AND Trump would need to surpass the margin of error by quite a bit…they will never stop persecuting this man. Never
You mean the Margin of Fraud.
He's not Orange Jesus and Republicans one and all have empty skin pouches in their skivvies.
But Trump will win the independent vote overwhelmingly now.
I voted a straight Republican ticket in 2020 because I knew the Democrats were going to try to steal the election and decided to do my part to make their theft a little harder. And I'm someone who usually votes for one of those so-called third parties.
I have never not ever cast a vote I did not later regret except for 2016 when I voted affirmatively for "none of the above." In 2020 I stayed home, and I have decided that fuck it, everyone else can save the world if they want to but I am done now, absolutely done, fuck it.
And then yesterday happened and I've been wanting, as a non-drinking woman, to be in a spiritous stupor ever since because I have no choice now, I must piss upon my integrity and vote that Republican ticket even if some of the candidates would weld a chastity belt to my nethers if they could.
I get mad like this, it's all over. It's best to leave that quality in me sleeping, but here we are.
Last evening my never Trump, Northern California, Jewish brother-in-law said he’s voting for Trump
It's always been such an absurdity, the morons calling him antisemitic. And he was in fact the most successful advancer of peace for the Middle East we ever had as President.
It's reactions like yours that make me entertain the (extra-thick tinfoil hat) possibility that the whole assassination attempt was a cleverly orchestrated Hollywood-style production.
The best argument against it is that after the debate Trump hardly needed the assist.
You know, the world we're in now, what isn't possible?
What I think is that the idiot-from-corporate lady Secret Service chief is not up to times like this, and there's no shortage of despairing autistic kids whose traits can make them extraordinarily precise with guns and whose inner worlds of delusion make them perfect for moments like this.
Please note I'm not seriously suggesting that. It's more of a commentary on our times about how cynical many of us have become out of necessity, having to always assume we are being lied to.
I promise, no Republican wants to weld a chastity belt to your nethers. That is ridiculous. They would, however, like to keep physicians from cutting up the nethers of children.
I am a strong supporter of the rights to liberty of women to determine the course of their pregnancies, and I will confess to hypocrisy by approving limits on abortion at the point of viability. Republicans make clear they believe that women become community property when they are pregnant and that the state has the right to assert custodial authority over pregnancies.
Oh my. Your Friend From Fifth Grade better gird her loins.
Like I said here in the threads about that fortune from the Chinese restaurant. I expect I will with great self-control just end the conversation at the point where I must. I believe strongly in heeding warnings from the cosmos about my own behavior.
"Democrats must lose everything everywhere."
Absolutely, if America wants to hobble forward resembling anything like its former self.
Cogent.
But how did he or the party became better because he was nearly assassinated? I don't get it. This guy is still establishment. A quakcine pusher and wef ass licker. The same elite uni-party member against the 'plebs'.
Where have I said anyone or anything became better?
Now you want to vote for him. Means something made him a better candidate in your eyes.
No. There are no better candidates.
the system is rotten and we are discussing this here on substacks since years. And now you suddenly believe this system is not rotten to the core? That there is 'a' candidate at all??
Kid, do as you like.
I wonder if anyone has captured and archived any of those ersatz balls. Would make for interesting fodder.
They're going to get the acid bath now.
👀👀👀 What ersatz balls? 👀👀👀
And now you have most unfortunately brought to mind (even more unfortunately, I started it) that Alec Baldwin bit on SNL from some time ago about Shwetty Balls.
🤣🤣 Pete Schweddy and Jack Ryan are his only works worth watching.
The man is indestructible. Lawfare didn't stop him, "COnviCteD FELon" didn't stop him, and neither has an assassination attempt - Now he looks like a goddamn American hero. God bless President Trump.
trump is a living, breathing example of antifragility. every attack on him just makes him stronger. it is amazing, I've seen anything like him in politics.
Is it possible that Trump, of all people, could make me believe in God?!...:]
All the comments today about divine intervention and the extraordinary millimeter closeness to the bullet penetrating his head does give one pause for thought about it all. Just a slight turn of the head at exactly the right millisecond saved him. Pretty incredible.
I was skimming comments today and don’t usually bother to comment myself, but yours brought to mind a curious video I stumbled across years ago and have continued to ponder from time to time. In light of your comment (though I suspect you are joking!) I think you will find it quite interesting. You have to listen through a tiny bit of specific Catholic history (I’m not Catholic myself and I made it through!) but I think you’ll find it pretty fascinating if you listen through to the end regarding what is said about Trump - and yes, it is relevant to your comment. I’m not trying to scam you or anything! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV7kwMRzdo
Well I'm glad you commented today. Thx for posting
He is human and he does bleed. He makes mistakes. That being said, adversity seems to make him stronger. He rises to the challenge.
Yeah, mistakes. Like, Operation Warp Speed, maybe? Twenty-one million dead and counting. A mistake.
I am flabbergasted by the fact it has been memory-holed even while it is happening.
Yup!!
Trump tough guy memes are going to replace Chuck Norris tough guy memes: “An assassin tried to kill Donald Trump, but the bullet got scared and wimped out at the last second!”
I've been surprised for years that he hasn't dropped dead due to his lifestyle. Talk about robust.
Me, neither. He's promethean.
Pres. Clinton was similar.
They will install trump, economy collapses, he introduces CBDCs and all the folks here will have an orgasm how good digital currency is for us. I guess this is how delusional people are ATM.
I’m really fond of the old orange man now, even more so now that many of his faults have been so thoroughly examined and exposed. Trial by fire I guess. He has confessed his sins and been forgiven. He doesn’t need to do this. And yet he persists. Remarkable man. So much stronger than anyone knew.
Frankly, the incompetence of his enemies astounds me.
If not incompetence, utter stupidity. Or perhaps stupidity breeds incompetence.
Yesterday, Megan Kelly showed a picture of an anti-sniper team on a low roof behind the stage Trump was on. Rifle on a low tripod and assuming a spotter sweeping the area with binoculars. One has to wonder how they did not see that man crawling up the roof to get in position.
I've now viewed the footage of the counter-sniper team multiple times – and the separate footage of Crooks on the building. One has the strong impression that they already had the assassin in their sights, and merely hesitated to engage him until after he opened fire. Just incredible.
“Maybe that guy is just trying to get a better look at Trump, on a roof, through a scope, mounted on a rifle.” Rules of Engagement?
I'm under the impression (though I don't know for certain) that the SS does not have particularly strict RoE. And "pointing a rifle at a protectee" would be *well* inside of them, anyway. If they saw the assassin on the roof and taking aim and *waited for him to fire first*, that's a completely unacceptable failure.
climbing a building with a rifle might be enough
I mean, I would certainly *think* so? At the very least, it would warrant sending someone over to talk to the guy and ask WTF he thinks he's doing?
Nevermind attempting to climb unarmed through a broken window....
Ashli Babbitt R.I.P.
Dead patsies tell no tales.
Devil's attourney:
They may have hesitated to avoid a situation where they accidentally kill a freelance photographer with a tele-objective.
Seems like they would have been equipped with a pair of binoculars to get a better visual of the guy.
He got off 5 shots- terrible terrible reaction time
Right! Were told to stand down? 🤨
I saw a different still, a side view, two anti-sniper police with rifles, no spotters but you would think they would be looking at all possible threat sites opposite them.
Perhaps they were waiting for permission to shoot, but we’re having trouble getting a supervisor to ok it, since most of the Govt “works” at home these days….
I read something this morning that said SS protocol is not to shoot on suspicion alone. No idea if that's true.
Makes sense, so that innocent people toting telescopes aren't slaughtered.
Same. They don't fire until protectee has been shot at.
I've read a few reasons why they didn't react as expected. One suggested those counter snipers were operating at a range beyond where the guy was. Another suggested they may have suspected a friendly, as happened back in the G W Bush days where SS nearly enagaged a local SWAT team by mistake.
Being a chucked European I don't know anything about guns, though.
Could they have been waiting for "permission" from the Biden admin. bigwigs in SS? Sort of like the snipers in Afghanistan waiting for the "OK" from back in Washington?
Hardly risking a reputation of restraint by our gun weilding law enforcement.
130m is *well* within the range I would expect the Secret Service to have absolutely locked down.
When I go to the shooting range, and I'm shooting rifles, I don't bother setting up targets any *closer* than 200 yards. (182m)
It's frankly amazing that Trump is still alive.
Refer to Dan Bongino who worked in the USSS under Bush, I think. He says the counter snipers are trained to take down subjects up to 1000 yds.
Oh, I'm sure those guys are great shots. My point was more that I'd have expected any roof only 130 yards away from the stage to *already have* a Secret Service agent on it. Or at least a couple of cops.
Do you know if details about what weapon and such the assassin used have been released?
I imagine it matters, even more so the more amateur the shooter.
I don't. I have heard that it was a 5.56mm, but that only covers the ammo, and doesn't narrow the weapon down almost at all. And I could have easily heard wrong.
5.56 is kind of like someone answering "food" when asked what they had for dinner?
Thans for replying. While I have handled firearms and have a very healthy respect for them (Finger off the trigger! Gun is always loaded! as dad taught us) I'm don't have anywhere the knowledge needed to make judgement calls about what type of ammo or weapon falls within "reasonable" or "weird".
Well, not quite. "5.56mm" is going to almost certainly refer to "5.56x45mm NATO", the round that the M-16 and M-4 are chambered in, and the most common thing that the AR-15 is chambered in. But there are probably a hundred other rifles out there that are *also* chambered in 5.56mm, and it's one of the most common rifle calibers in the country, if not the single most common one.
So, less "food" and more "pizza". It narrows it down, but not much. ;)
I am now reading that it was an “AR-15 style” rifle. I’m going to presume that means “AR-15 parts compatible” rifle, and not merely “semi-automatic centerfire rifle” until told otherwise.
“AR-15 style” rifle is very roughly analogous to “x86 PC compatible” computer insofar as while “AR-15” in precise terminology is a specific brand and model of rifle (Colt Manufacturing Company) there are probably hundreds of companies producing AR-15 compatible parts, and it is entirely possible to build an “AR-15 style” rifle that contains exactly zero actual Colt made parts. Likewise, heading over to Newegg or wherever, one can mix and match parts to build a PC of whatever sort, because generally speaking, all of the parts will mostly work together.
So this was undoubtedly a very common firearm.
"It's frankly amazing that Trump is still alive."
Yes, it is, isn't it?
I would mostly attribute that to the shooter likely being a leftist dweeb who thinks guns are magical wands of destruction. If someone has grown up their whole life thinking that the AR-15 is a flawless instrument of death that will -- in the words of the sitting president -- "just rip the body apart" and that "the bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun", then that person might not bother to actually practice, first.
Or, sure, I suppose it's possible that as other commenters have said, this is all pure Kabuki. If that's the case, then we might as well just squat down, put our heads between our knees, and kiss our own asses goodbye. *shrug* I'm pretty blackpilled, but apparently not quite *that* blackpilled yet. :D
Don't forget that he missed Trump because of how Trump moved his head to look at the screen to his right. The shooter didn't anticipate that and fired when Trump's head was at the other angle.
Certainly a factor, but "going for a headshot" is *itself* a sign of a lack of real experience.
At 20 years old, is the shooter old enough to have had the practice to be a good marksman? Maybe, especially with military training or if he was raised in a gun family. But as an independent left-wing dweeb who was 13 when Trump was elected, he probably doesn’t have that much shooting experience.
" I'm pretty blackpilled, but apparently not quite *that* blackpilled yet"
Now is a good time to work on that. Don't feel bad, I've got a 20+ years headstart in that regard and I still keep falling for the most obvious psyops.
Not this time, though.
The people who were pointing out the shooter on the roof to police were right next to that building. They said they were outside the security perimeter.
I understand that it *was* outside of the perimeter. But until today I'd not have *expected* it to be outside of the perimeter. I'd have expected at least 500m, if not farther.
This is why I subscribe, and will continue to do so.
Nobody else writes so intelligently about that which will not be said by the legacy media.
Agreed.
And the irony is that Eugyppius seems to have better insight than most American commentators.
Not being too close to your subject helps.
As an update, the man who died at the rally was Corey Comperatore. He threw his wife and daughter down on time and shielded his daughter from the bullet. This is so sad.
HTTPS://X.com/TaylerUSA/status/1812507778335887390
he is a hero, and it would be an incredible privilege to die as he did.
The great Victor Davis Hansen captured what he called the left’s “Assam action porn” on C this morning:
“ So since at least 2016 there has been a parlor game among Leftist celebrities and entertainers joking (one hopes), dreaming, imagining, and just talking about the various and graphic ways they would like to assassinate or seriously injure Trump:
By slugging his face (Robert De Niro), by decapitation (Kathy Griffin, Marilyn Manson), by stabbing (Shakespeare in the Park), by clubbing (Mickey Rourke), by shooting ( Snoop Dogg), by poisoning (Anthony Bourdain), by bounty killing (George Lopez), by carrion eating his corpse (Pearl Jam), by suffocating (Larry Whilmore), by blowing him up (Madonna, Moby), by throwing him over a cliff (Rosie O’Donnell), just by generic “killing” him (Johnny Depp, Big Sean), or by martyring him (Reid Hoffman: “Yeah, I wish I had made him an actual martyr.”).”
And, the left has now fired the first shot of what could be our next Civil War, just like they did in 1861…
In case anyone wants to see some of those threats in video form:
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1812422372860829969
The celebs didn't say any of these things??
Ummmmm....., what "Media Manipulation" are you referrring to, ML?
Eugyppius, I’ve hoped all day that you would post on this topic. Thank you for your considered comments.
Yes! I was relieved to see that I could read your take
If I were a fiction writer...
CIA. Deliberate miss. Next one won't miss. And it won't be Trump. Biden. They have to remove him one way or another. This way, his dementia is forgotten. He big hero.
Ban rallies. Only TV. Deep fakes. 2nd amendment must be deleted. Safety first.
Ferment riots. Martial law. Mail in ballots.
Hilary and Mike Obama? Kamala and Hilary? Hilary and Barack?
Luckily, I'm not a fiction writer. Phew.
foment?
Not much of a writer at all:)
I’d be afraid to get aboard DJTs airplane. Cartels supposedly have MANPADS and they smuggle everything else into the USA. Imagine a Russian/ Chinese/Iranian missile being used. A false narrative flag and a real war… or two.
it is amazing, that jan6 is immediately called an insurrection, but an attempt to murder a president is just a fall... this distinguishes real press from fake. Luckily the first I read was Epoch times, who called the thing by its name. An assassination attempt. No matter whether you like or dislike the man, this is unheard of - apart from the two Kennedy who lost their lives in similar settings. In the meanwhile, a man who dare to joke with Hillary is behind bars. This says something - you cannot meme that texting to this number is like voting, but having fake Donald heads bleeding - and then the real one bleeding - oh well... I really hope the man recovers quickly (I think it was not so bad after all, but one died and 2 are wounded as well) and to be honest, I would not mind if he won. I think these were 4 years he should have righteously be in the WH that have been taken from him, and the more they scream about it, and block him, the more I am convinced that I am right.
Exactly. I beat the MSM by like 10 minutes and simply posted video of the event -- they took the extra time to deny reality.
The lying left with their media toadies always set the narrative and it tends to stick. And most of the right just lay there supine and unable/unwilling to protest.
When we restore a legitimate federal government, when the DHS, DoInjustice/FBI, Secret Service, IC, HHS, etc... are no longer in criminal hands…there will be hell to pay.
I’m not interested in revenge. I’d prefer the gutting or non-existence of most of these 3 letter agencies and the return of the federal government to its rightful place- subservient to the will of each individual state. Shrink and/or disappear these agencies. It’s the only way forward.
Yes indeedy and even though I must vote a straight Republican ticket now, I know there are no Republicans with the guts and integrity to get that job done. It's just that the other side must be made to lose.
I’m still not planning to vote at the federal level. Can’t shake the feeling that my vote is my consent. And post-covid tyranny, I can’t consent.
But I had thought of Trump as mostly a sh*t-disturber. A scrappy showman who disappointed me in the early weeks of covid times. And I seriously underestimated him. He has real physical courage. I get why you want to vote for him.
I've been saying since 2016 that none of the candidates is worthy of my vote etc. etc. etc., and as an ex-Noo Yawkuh myself I've known of Trump all my adult life and he is a profoundly damaged man without the capacity of self-mastery.
And then in the crucial moment yesterday afternoon he showed something preternaturally not of his natural temperament. Maybe that'll last, maybe it won't.
Maybe I'll burst into flames the second I've cast my ballot. I'll regret leaving before my time, really. But sometimes you just gotta step up to the moment yourself.
I wouldn't delude myself that anyone at the federal level gives a damn whether you vote or not. They certainly won't notice your non-vote, if anything they welcome that. Fewer actual votes to mess with. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote against egregious people. And then hope that in the next round you can vote for good people you like and support.
I hear you. It goes a bit deeper than that for me, though. If, for example, 99/100 people vote in favor of mandatory vaccination, does it make it alright because a vote was held and voting is democratic? Is it proper for me to go to the polls and impose my will upon others, or for others to go to the polls and impose their will upon me? If I am filled with disgust at the lecherous, bloated tentacles of the federal government, is it appropriate for me to vote federally at all? Democrat or Republican, the government is abusing us. I don’t have to choose between abusers.
Same here. Only voting in state and local elections.
Consider this possibility: RINO's are RINO's because they lack courage (and are beholden to their donors). Should Democrats fall, and a few more principled Republicans come forward, might those weak links discover some testicularly-derived hormonal strength?
You should pardon me but that is a--well, insert expletives of your choice here--excuse. Decent tough Republicans went extinct in my lifetime.
Trump has never been a Republican; he whored himself out to the evangelicals to get the nomination and win the first election.
And maybe now he has finally discovered who and what he really is underneath all the idiotic bluster and the failure to find a zipper lock.
Nobody needs more Republicans or Democrats. We need an independent populace who will not vote for anyone who does not uphold our foundational principles.
I wholeheartedly agree with your last paragraph.
I'm not quite as impressed by Trump's possibly "discovering who he really is". He's a born showman, although it is impressive that he managed to overcome the trauma of the moment to strike that frankly inspiring pose.
That was the thing. It was not wanting to be hustled away without his shoes, and his instinct to reassure the crowd. In that moment he was taking care of his people as a wise and courageous leader. Even if it's only that moment, it was there and it was real.
Burn it all done. Then salt the fields imo.
As a Beltway Bandit defector skilled in large scale network procurement bids w all it's evil loophole and Enron accounting tricks where RFP are truly won or lost & caveats or clauses can be undetected future windfalls.. gotta stop but that's largely the top tier appointee dirtbags. We had substantial contact w individual agency staff who did the real work & overwhelmingly dedicated to the idea they serve the public & oath sworn to the Constitution is unconditional. Chop off the head and let the stifled workers flourish in doing the jobs they want to do.
I hear that-it’s a real question as to what is salvageable. I worry that if it’s all burned the thing that crops up in its place could be worse.
Maybe?
I look at it like I would look at buying a business. If it's just bad management; that can be changed. If it's insolvent; well that can't.
That would be taking on too much risk, to only find out, even the best new management would most likely bankrupt you. Both the fundamentals and it's management are broke...and it's captured.
Start over and decentralize into a more distributive model imo.
Nuke from space-it's the only way.
Indeed. There are times I look up at the sky longingly and say to myself....."just waiting on the asteroid"....
The asteroid was discovered in 2022 and is named the US Inflation Reduction Act: Carbon Capture Use and Sequestration Provisions.
😂
I am of same mind. Besides, vengeance is far too dangerous for mere mortals to exercise.
Absolutely.
We Americans have a solution to most of our political/public/civic/fiscal problems right under our noses: the Constitution. Follow it to the letter. Our country should be a loose agglomeration of fifty sovereign states, with an explicit option to opt out of the Republic.
That's why I've been working on passing a nullification law in my state.
https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/nullification-overview/
To recap:
1. Building complex roof top used by shooter about a 150 meter direct line of site from Trump. Really.
2. Complex was outside of "security perimeter" and not part of secret service advance team threat assessment. Really. That short of a distance with clear line of site was not threat enough to be included in security perimeter. Really.
3. Guy with rifle climbs on roof via ladder and not one security asset witnessess event. Really.
4. While guy is crawling for "minutes" towards shooting position, bystanders are providing verbal and physical (pointing) directional cues to security detail and not one counter-sniper asset gets eyes on the guy...even when he is more exposed in the shooting position. Really.
5. Only after the guy shoots do the counter sniper agents engage him. Really. BTW, do the secret service rules of egagement state engagement of lethal threat can occur only after the threat acts? Really. Go pull a gun on Biden at close range but dont pull trigger and see what happens. Makes zero difference if threat is 1 meter of 150 meters out. Really.
6. The ONLY thing that saved Trump was his fortuitous head movement to his right after the first shot and a low skilled shooter who did not account for the slight wind per weather at the time that would have altered round trajectory at that distance. Really.
6. The ONLY thing that saved Trump was his fortuitous head movement to his right
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Turn your head to the right.
With your finger, trace the path of the bullet through Trump's ear and hold it there.
Turn your head back to the front.
That's how close it was.
Who furnished the ladder?
Dust the ladder for prints and see if any matches are found? Haven't a clue how feasible that is, though.
I imagine people will be going through footage of where the shooter was, to try and re-create his path.
That ladder is now in storage next to the Ark of the Covenant.
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/
THIS IS ALL AN INSIDE JOB UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE