Also note this new paper in Nature, on Discriminatory Attitudes Against the Unvaccinated During a Global Pandemic. From the abstract: We quantify discriminatory attitudes between vaccinated and unvaccinated citizens in 21 countries, covering a diverse set of cultures across the world. Across three conjoint experimental studies (N=15,233), we demonstrate that vaccinated people express discriminatory attitudes towards the unvaccinated, as high as the discriminatory attitudes suffered by common targets like immigrant and minority populations. In contrast, there is an absence of evidence that unvaccinated individuals display discriminatory attitudes towards vaccinated people, except for the presence of negative affect in Germany and United States. We find evidence in support of discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated in all countries except Hungary and Romania and find that discriminatory attitudes are more strongly expressed in cultures with stronger cooperative norms.
Of course here in the UK many of the pro-vaxxers were also EU Remainers and they assumed all anti-vaxxers were Brexiteers. So a double amount of hatred and fury was thrown around. Personally, I despise the jabbed because none of them bothered to look into what they were being told to take, none of them questioned the lockdowns or masks or any of that nonsense. Most of them screamed abuse at me without wanting to hear what I had to say. Most of them are now suffering repeat covid infections and myriad other illnesses and still refuse to do any investigating into why. The all now know the jabs are dodgy but they like to tell me it's "the other jabs," not the ones they took that are the problem. May they all rot in hell!
Dec 10, 2022·edited Dec 10, 2022Liked by eugyppius
I'd suggest that one aspect of the "discriminatory" hatred expressed toward we unvaccinated individuals is a form of jealousy of our stronger self-preservation instinct and our higher intelligence.
Restaurants in my town ~voluntarily~ decided that the unvaccinated should be shunned -- if I wanted to get food in my own tiny town I had to order "to go" from a separate "window" in the back and then eat in the alley by the garbage or take it back to my dirty pestilent hovel. Obviously I'm still mad about it. And these are the Black Lives Matter people, too. The "I Believe in Love" assholes. Do they think that the slave-owners didn't also have Very Good Reasons for keeping slaves? It was better for the slaves to be slaves, they said. Safer for them. Now they can be ~Christians~. Better for the slave kids too than "running wild." There was also SCIENCE that said slaves had smaller brains, or misshapen skulls or whatever and also MEDICINE that said that slaves that wanted to run-away had a "mental disorder." And EXPERTS that said slavery was fine because weren't there slaves in the Bible? As you say, I will despise these idiotic dangerous morons for the rest of my life.
It cannot possibly be snow, we all know that cold and snow are a thing of the past. I’m also pretty sure that agw fanatics share the discriminatory attitudes of the vaccinated.
Has anyone ever studied people who follow orders/like to discrimate against anyone not beleiving what they beleive to see if they perhaps never advanced past high school cliques and emotions?
I seriously beleive most people get stuck in their teen-age years, and never develop past that.
They say discrimination like it's a bad thing. It's a primary survival tactic. Those who don't discriminate are unlikely to survive long, without a benevolent protector. Which protector, though, is just saving him to eat later.
Vaxed people criticizing unvaxed people is also a defense mechanism. Initially it was based on ignorant fear that the unvaxed were a danger to them, so discrimination was rational. As the evidence became clear that the vax is instead a disadvantage, they became more critical as a way to cover up their own mistake, and became clearly irrational. Unresolved fears usually drive people mad. The best cure is to give them something tangible to fear -- us. Confront them, openly and aggressively. It's for their own good.
I don’t see the big deal with the nature paper. Everyone I know who discriminated against us was proud of it. I could see them reading this paper and concluding “damn we should have been even bigger assholes!”
So beautiful! But, Eugyppius, I worked in Oberkochen (Baden-Württemberg) exactly 20 years ago and it snowed on Oct 1. So, surely this is proof of global warming because this was now the first snow in Bayern and it’s so, so much later in the year. Because, you know, SCIENCE!! 🤪
Re the "I Fucking Love Science faithful" - we all know it, but never ceases to amuse me how this enlightened crowd never misses any opportunity to virtue signal their love and support of tolerance, diversity, liberal values, open mindedness, in addition to their love of reason and science. Yet their minds and hearts, and their real actions, could not be further removed from those values. Nowdays when I see someone wave the flags of 'tolerance and acceptance' I run fast in the opposite direction.
Helpful but alas "discrimination is wrong" is just one more of a hundred progressive "principles" that only really applies when it harms THEM. It's all really just friend/enemy distinctions.
"Except for the presence of negative affect" I wonder if hateful glares are dangerous to the heroic immunocompromised population? I see the potential for an exciting new array of stochastic terrorism laws.
Nietzsche says that what people really love is cruelty. The antivaxxer hate campaigns gave them license. And they took it.
"In contrast, there is an absence of evidence that unvaccinated individuals display discriminatory attitudes towards vaccinated people"
Wait until studies on shedding start pouring in.
Of course here in the UK many of the pro-vaxxers were also EU Remainers and they assumed all anti-vaxxers were Brexiteers. So a double amount of hatred and fury was thrown around. Personally, I despise the jabbed because none of them bothered to look into what they were being told to take, none of them questioned the lockdowns or masks or any of that nonsense. Most of them screamed abuse at me without wanting to hear what I had to say. Most of them are now suffering repeat covid infections and myriad other illnesses and still refuse to do any investigating into why. The all now know the jabs are dodgy but they like to tell me it's "the other jabs," not the ones they took that are the problem. May they all rot in hell!
I'd suggest that one aspect of the "discriminatory" hatred expressed toward we unvaccinated individuals is a form of jealousy of our stronger self-preservation instinct and our higher intelligence.
Restaurants in my town ~voluntarily~ decided that the unvaccinated should be shunned -- if I wanted to get food in my own tiny town I had to order "to go" from a separate "window" in the back and then eat in the alley by the garbage or take it back to my dirty pestilent hovel. Obviously I'm still mad about it. And these are the Black Lives Matter people, too. The "I Believe in Love" assholes. Do they think that the slave-owners didn't also have Very Good Reasons for keeping slaves? It was better for the slaves to be slaves, they said. Safer for them. Now they can be ~Christians~. Better for the slave kids too than "running wild." There was also SCIENCE that said slaves had smaller brains, or misshapen skulls or whatever and also MEDICINE that said that slaves that wanted to run-away had a "mental disorder." And EXPERTS that said slavery was fine because weren't there slaves in the Bible? As you say, I will despise these idiotic dangerous morons for the rest of my life.
It cannot possibly be snow, we all know that cold and snow are a thing of the past. I’m also pretty sure that agw fanatics share the discriminatory attitudes of the vaccinated.
Has anyone ever studied people who follow orders/like to discrimate against anyone not beleiving what they beleive to see if they perhaps never advanced past high school cliques and emotions?
I seriously beleive most people get stuck in their teen-age years, and never develop past that.
They say discrimination like it's a bad thing. It's a primary survival tactic. Those who don't discriminate are unlikely to survive long, without a benevolent protector. Which protector, though, is just saving him to eat later.
Vaxed people criticizing unvaxed people is also a defense mechanism. Initially it was based on ignorant fear that the unvaxed were a danger to them, so discrimination was rational. As the evidence became clear that the vax is instead a disadvantage, they became more critical as a way to cover up their own mistake, and became clearly irrational. Unresolved fears usually drive people mad. The best cure is to give them something tangible to fear -- us. Confront them, openly and aggressively. It's for their own good.
I don’t see the big deal with the nature paper. Everyone I know who discriminated against us was proud of it. I could see them reading this paper and concluding “damn we should have been even bigger assholes!”
So beautiful! But, Eugyppius, I worked in Oberkochen (Baden-Württemberg) exactly 20 years ago and it snowed on Oct 1. So, surely this is proof of global warming because this was now the first snow in Bayern and it’s so, so much later in the year. Because, you know, SCIENCE!! 🤪
"We find evidence in support of discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated in all countries except Hungary" ❤️
How did us, as a society preserve our sanity? There's a story there.
Re the "I Fucking Love Science faithful" - we all know it, but never ceases to amuse me how this enlightened crowd never misses any opportunity to virtue signal their love and support of tolerance, diversity, liberal values, open mindedness, in addition to their love of reason and science. Yet their minds and hearts, and their real actions, could not be further removed from those values. Nowdays when I see someone wave the flags of 'tolerance and acceptance' I run fast in the opposite direction.
Their is such a shameful abuse of language.
Helpful but alas "discrimination is wrong" is just one more of a hundred progressive "principles" that only really applies when it harms THEM. It's all really just friend/enemy distinctions.
"Except for the presence of negative affect" I wonder if hateful glares are dangerous to the heroic immunocompromised population? I see the potential for an exciting new array of stochastic terrorism laws.
Absolutely beautiful:)
Thanks. Yes going to take a long time before the shakeout of this thing settles down. Then what?