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Fager 132's avatar

So Sturzenberger criticized the Religion of Peace™ and to prove how wrong he is a Muslim tried to stab him to death. And Sturzenberger deserved it because he's an "extremist." What's he extreme about? The wrongness of blowing up hotels and murdering people? The inappropriateness of solving disputes with knife attacks?

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Eldeezy's avatar

I am so effing sick of all these peaceful Muslims bloviating on and on about their "religion of peace". From my understanding Mohammed was a fairly fiery individual who spread his religion as much through the sword as through the word and dictated, in their Holy Quran, for his followers and accolades to do the same. Our western and still, for now, predominantly Christian democracies are tolerant of other religions to a fault. There exists, in the large majority of Muslim nations in the world, precious little tolerance of other religions, often on pain of death. These Islamic assholes are doing nothing less than fighting a Jihad, a Holy war, against the infidel Jew and Gentile who refuse to follow the word of Mohammed. Either accept and abide by Islam or die. And our political leaders and lefacy media, the majority of whom are left wing socialists or outright Marxists, criticize anyone speaking against Islamists as being far-right Islamophobes and racists, rather than accept the fact we're in a life and death struggle for the souls of our nations and cultures.

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Fager 132's avatar

Islam is a rationalization for sadism. That's how it started. That's how it's been through the centuries. That's how it is now. Calling it a "religion" is a skin suit donned by brutes to fool the stragglers at the back of the herd. Religions are attempts at codifying a philosophy to guide man's life. Islam is a rationalization for causing men's deaths.

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CMCM's avatar

One of Islam's biggest carrots to the uneducated who willing blow themselves up for Allah, is that for killing infidels they'll get an express trip to heaven and will be immediately rewarded there by Allah. 72 virgins, so it's said. Or as we Westerners who used to work in the Middle East liked to joke, they will be surprised to find it's actually 72 raisins they're going to get.

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Fager 132's avatar

Sure. First they keep the women under tents to frustrate the young men, and then they dangle a week's supply of free virgins in front of them. Combine that with effectively no career prospects to keep them idle, leaven in plenty of resentment and self-pity, and voila: Every guy under 25 spends his evenings paging through the JC Pyrotechnics catalog for the latest in suicide vests.

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carily myers's avatar

wow, never thought that. I thought I was awakened-apparently not. Thanks

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

No we are not in a life and death struggle with the invaders . We or more likely the politicians do everything to make the migrants welcome ,handing out free. stuff of all kinds left and right ,payed for by the victims .Never was a war won so easy by invaders ,with the help and blessing of the ones losing it all .

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

This is not an either/or situation.

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Warmek's avatar

The Tenth Crusade needs to happen.

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Warmek's avatar

Make Istanbul Constantinople Again!

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Warmeck ,the crusade is happening for some time now .,but it's not us crusading ,the Muslims crusade and they did win the crusade .The west is now under Muslim occupation

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

if you look at islam infested areas of the UK you'll see a million rapes ignored by the police for "community relations" the same group who pulled the "look the other way" switch for Saville are pulling it again this time, and probably for similar reasons.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Of course these war like young studs are horny like hell and aggressive .Rape or having several slave wife's is common practice in hell holes they emerge from .They carry on in conquered lands what is second nature to them .Western men are so weak now ,they push them over with their little finger while they rape their wife . There are even ''wife's ''with several divorces in their bag ,who welcome strong studs ,to finally get the sex they never got from a too soft hubbby .

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

moslems are bitches not studs you complete moron.

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carily myers's avatar

London is certainly lost

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

More like a continent-wide Reconquista

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SCA's avatar

Our Western nations in their formative years were constantly accusing fellow Christians of heresy and apostasy and every other sort of thought crime and that's how we got America in the first place, and every sect fleeing Europe for the new fields of the Lord began accusing some of their own members of heresy etc. etc. etc.

It used to be, in America, once upon a time, that "intermarriage" was a Catholic girl marrying a Protestant guy and vice versa.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

islam is right about homos.

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Wags Superior's avatar

So was Stalin. You are setting the bar extremely low to justify what? Siding with durka durka muhammad jihad types and being a hedonists?

Just be Christian dude.. It is our heritage and is true.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

islam is right about faggots.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Aren't you - a fountain of wisdom. 🤦

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carily myers's avatar

like

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Vxi7's avatar

Try to say that a woman was raped because she dressed provocatively. You will be cancelled for victim blaming. Then of course sometimes victim blaming is "justified " like now...

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Warmek's avatar

I'm sure he's feeling much more positively disposed towards Islam now...

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Margaret's avatar

Exactly!

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Mcferic's avatar

He's off the narrative.

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carily myers's avatar

like, alot. ( "like" button shut off wks ago)

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Bash's avatar

Is it possible that they really don't realize that a video of the incident is all over social media?

The way they behave is very -20 years ago...

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eugyppius's avatar

one has the sense that state media commentators at least rely on their ageing audiences having no access to it.

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jdm's avatar

There is widespread ignorance with no interest in learning. Even when the info is easily available and links are are provided. It's everywhere.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Well, it is a "video" and videos aren't actually proof. The proof is a peer-reviewed paper. So if this were a peer-reviewed paper properly vetted, it is far more authentic than actual footage of the event.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

only if the "research" is funded by "politically neutral" "NGO" or "charity" cutout.

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SCA's avatar

Well done here.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

You're joking right??

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

As I keep pointing out, there really needs to be a sarcastic font.

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Paul Ashley's avatar

This unwillingness to investigate and learn is what the Left rely on for the support of all their cults, from Islamophilia, to COVID, to climate change.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I realized that when I sent messages about the scamdemic around. They were official papers, not just blog posts,but were completely ignored. I was told the news reader knew much better than any scientist I quoted (one of them Geert Vanden Bossche, from Belgium, my family lives there). Well, what else can you say then? I just kept my mouth shut and let them inject themselves into oblivion.

As to Germany, this has escalated for years, I remember 35 or so years ago, German children being harassed by immigrant children. Now it has come so far, as shows this video, that immigrants are being protected and German people neglected. May be you should exchange countries. Bring all the foreigners to Germany, and all the Germans move to Pakistan-Afghanistan etc.

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Danno's avatar

They have places where you could build some awesome ski resorts.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and places where it nice and warm!

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

Shut up idiot.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

Shut up idiot.

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Jana Crawford's avatar

Learning takes effort, most are unwilling to read beyond a headline where they make an "informed" snap judgement. If they do read more, they never question the ink on paper. Fools follow fools. They deserve what is coming to them.

Pray for those willing to learn and help the young question authority.

This ignored beauty, from the American emperor, says it all but who has time to read?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/06/15/fact-sheet-national-strategy-for-countering-domestic-terrorism/

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Danno's avatar

It's everywhere for now. The censorship industrial complex will systematically remove it from the internet within a week.

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Tonetta's avatar

The one on x is no longer available.

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Carl's avatar

The youth get information from different sources and the political winds will change as the boomers die out

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Sometimes it seems like independent online media doesn't exist outside the English-speaking world.

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CS's avatar

Great insight.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Just when you think you can't loathe them any further.

They wonder why we hate them!

I got enough loathe going on to float a battleship around .

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Quadriped's avatar

Is 'them" the globalist politicians or radical muslims? I despise both.

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pyrrhus's avatar

The radical muslims wouldn't be a problem without the globalist politicians...The Uighurs tried some stuff like that in China, and suddenly they found themselves in camps working for Apple...

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SCA's avatar

The radical Muslims are a problem for Muslims too. Saudi money transformed every Muslim country everywhere regardless of the majority ethnicity of any Muslim country anywhere.

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pyrrhus's avatar

No doubt, but in places like Iraq, the different religious groups pretty much separate themselves...If a Sunni goes into a Shia neighborhood with evil intentions, he's likely to end up dead in a hurry....In India, if the muslims attack the Hindus, the Hindus burn down the entire Muslim neighborhood, so that keeps things more or less in check...Indiscriminate violence works...

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CMCM's avatar
Jun 3Edited

I taught in a Saudi medical university for 8 years. There were some Palestinians there as well as some Iraqi Shia students or workers. All the Sunnis most emphatically did not like the Palestinians and looked down at them and didn't treat them well. I was admittedly shocked when one person told me the Shia are "worse than dogs." (note: they hate dogs there). There's an incredible amount of discrimination and hatred (both racial and religious) in the Muslim world of the Middle East. And elsewhere too, I am certain.

Interesting addition: At Christmas time my Saudi students were aware of the Christmas celebrations and would give me Christmas cards and sometimes a little gift. I found that interesting considering the Islamic attitude about Infidels like me.

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SCA's avatar

Nothing is held in check. There are regular atrocities happening.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Both. But I was referring to the Globalist with this comment

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

"globalists" code for kikes and their shabbos Goyim.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

"globalists" code for kikes and their shabbos Goyim.

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Bash's avatar

i don't think they care. And I think they know.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

We also know that.

I've said it before but it's mockery and our minds are meant to be shock absorbers.

Totalitarianism 101.

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carily myers's avatar

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Mitch's avatar

who you gonna believe, them or your lying eyes?

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Procrastnator's avatar

X has taken one of them down

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ASensibleMan's avatar

It is simply impossible to hate journalists enough.

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Danno's avatar

Those people aren't journalists, they're subsidized propagandists posing as journalists.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Exactly. Bureaucrats by proxy for the state.

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carily myers's avatar

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Sez777's avatar

And ready to burn down their own country, and their own children's future, for a handful of dollars.

'Propagandists' to be sure. They're definitely not 'journalists' (hell, they're not even humans).

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

Judasists?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

Speak lies for power

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SCA's avatar
Jun 1Edited

[I'd been waiting since I'd read of this attack in the Daily Mail Online for your analysis and glad to have it quickly]

The reactions here are some German governmental and water-carrying guide for the perplexed on how to commit societal suicide.

I lived in another country for varying stretches of time during very interesting times and saw what all that Saudi jihad-training money does to a society with all the cultural groundwork already in place to be pushed right off the cliff into full radical Islamic self-destruction. And I also saw how all the stuff moron Western women support enthusiastically for their darling brown sisters as free exercise of religious mandates is just total bullshit and hypocrisy because they ain't religious mandates but regional cultural/tribal impositions.

Muslims of a particular bent have zero problem murdering their own daughters and sisters for stepping out of line so they ain't gonna be dainty about slashing up, as fatally as they can, members of their new adopted places of residence.

And that guy ain't wrong. As instruction manuals, the Quran and Mein Kampf could certainly be shelved in the same library section.

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Cynthia Jeanne Ford's avatar

I had a Yemeni grocery store near me when I lived in Oakland, and they offered to lend me a Koran, but women, they said, aren't allowed to touch it if they are on their period. In San Francisco, I had a Muslim landlord, whose relatives had ostensibly patched the roof, but a hard rain caved it in, and water was pouring into the living room. When we called the landlord, he said "Have a man call me and tell me the roof is leaking" So even in the assimilated, there was tremendous misogyny. I just wonder how social media and the dark web have sent Muslims backward into tribalism and political Islam. I just have this sense that there is a torturetheinfidel.com somewhere. I'm not entirely sure that Islam, even moderate Islam, excluding the mystics and Sufis, can assimilate well as they marry their cousins, subjugate women (Margaret Atwood originally based her book The Handmaid's Tale on the theocracies of the Middle East), and look down upon the infidel at the very least. Moderate Muslims do seem to be radicalizing around Palestine, which may be ingenuous, since so many players in the complex drama commodify the suffering of the Gazans, but I'm a few minutes from majority Muslim enclaves in Michigan, and our lobotomized governor is offering 500 a month to anyone who lets a "newcomer" sleep in their spare room. Summer looks bad, with the encampments and marches, political conventions, and Pride months. I just keep imagining the BDSM naked contingent (Rachel Levine led the Northrup Grummond Pride march last summer) running into the keffiyah clad "from the river to the sea" crowd, kind of like France, where they put a Muslim immigrant enclave next to a nudist colony. Maybe we should pray for a heat wave, since murders aren't committed after 95 degrees, though that would bring the climate cultists out.

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carily myers's avatar

A moderate, assimilated Muslim only cheers for the radicals who kill "infidels"

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SCA's avatar

This is not actually true. What is true is that good people are good regardless of whatever cult brings meaning to their lives, and bad people are bad likewise. One's cult merely gives license to one's nature, if one's nature is rotten.

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Wags Superior's avatar

I am not buying it. Muhammadism is based on lies and violence. Nothing good will come of it.

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SCA's avatar

All cults are bad. It turns out that one Middle Eastern blood sacrifice cult will give birth to others and then there's plenty of idiocy to go around.

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SCA's avatar

Only 20% of the Muslim holy book canon is the Quran. The rest is Judaism and Christianity. Of course the average Muslim just knows the names of the five books but only reads (or is told) the Quran. But the Quran is pretty much cut-and-paste Judaism.

When The DaVinci Code came out, it was protested not only in strongly Christian countries as blasphemy but in Muslim countries too, for suggesting Jesus had had a wife.

If you took the most extreme Jewish ultra-Orthodox guy, put him in plainclothes next to an extremist Muslim guy in plainclothes (and chose your two examples from similar skin tones) you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> Only 20% of the Muslim holy book canon is the Quran. The rest is Judaism and Christianity.

Um, no. Islam teaches that Judaism and Christianity were corrupted and that Islam is the final perfect revelation.

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SCA's avatar

Giney! There you are!

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Remember, you are free to stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance anytime you want.

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SCA's avatar

There you are, Giney!

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> If you took the most extreme Jewish ultra-Orthodox guy, put him in plainclothes next to an extremist Muslim guy in plainclothes (and chose your two examples from similar skin tones) you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

The Jewish ultra-Orthodox guy wouldn't be trying to kill you.

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SCA's avatar

Giney! There you are!

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Sam's avatar

SCA: Knowing absolutely nothing and having had an Agnostic upbringing, my long held opinion is that "they're all the same"

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Procrastnator's avatar

That could be fatal, as one of them may be happy to kill you for God's sake, the other leaves it to God to deal with you, and God is more tolerant.

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Sam's avatar

Yikes

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Davey Jones's avatar

You got that right. They are all the same is like saying having a kitty cat in your lap is the same as being thrown into a pit of hungry lions. Each of the cats eat meat, but they are not all the same.

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SCA's avatar

You betcha.

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Davey Jones's avatar

Except that Jews don't stone their own daughters, throw gays off buildings, or burn people alive just for "fun".

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SCA's avatar

In fact ultra-Orthodox settlers have indeed burned Arabs alive, and perhaps you haven't seen the abuse they hurl at little ultra-Orthodox girls of different sects for not being sufficiently "modestly dressed."

Ultra-Orthodox mobs have murdered Arabs and have received far lesser sentences than comparable crimes by Arabs in Israel or the West Bank get.

Judaism and Islam are blood relatives and the worst ultra-Orthodox rabbis are as deranged as deranged imams are.

It's just that Jews can be cultural but non-believing Jews and not get murdered for it by other Jews. A significant difference, true. But killing other people based solely on their ethnicity--we're against that, right?

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Davey Jones's avatar

Thank you for recognizing the massive excess of depravity built into the muslim "faith".

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SCA's avatar

All cults are bad and all fundamentalists are crazy.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

lol Where did you get that bullshit?? Kikes go by the satanic talmud btw not be torah.

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Wags Superior's avatar

This is pure nonsense. I have talked to Muhammadans before from Bangladesh. They knew nothing about Moses, Isaias and their knowledge of Jesus is completely ahistorical and wrong.

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SCA's avatar
Jun 4Edited

Yes, that's why so many Muslims are named Musa, Ishaaq and Isa etc. etc. Younus, Ibrahim. Sarah, Maryam. Just pulled them out of a hat.

All knowledge of Jesus is ahistorical and wrong. The poor guy was just made the frontman for Judaism's new breakaway cult so it could be marketed to the Greeks and Romans. They were already familiar with the myths of killed and risen gods.

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Wags Superior's avatar

Tons of Americans name their kids Rachel, Aaron, Benjamin, Joshua, etc but have never opened a Bible in their lives. That is what I was saying.

Are you a pagan or an athiest?

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SCA's avatar

They don't need to actually open Bibles to be aware of where the names come from. The average Muslim in Bangladesh doesn't even know, beyond the names of their other four holy books what is actually in them.

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kertch's avatar

Islam as practiced is mostly the cultural norms of primitive Arab nomads formalized as religion.

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SCA's avatar

Islam is the second daughter of the surviving Middle Eastern blood sacrifice cult. The mom and the other kid got their serious problems too. Family dysfunction, it ain't great for nobody.

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Michael Dansbury's avatar

I'm led to believe that there are a decent number of Pakistani women buried under the soil of Bedfordshire after being seen with the 'wrong' man. If anyone asks they just went back to Pakistan, she's ok, no problim mi fren etc etc

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SCA's avatar

American-born girls of Pakistani ethnicity quite frequently get sent to the old country for summer vacation and end up married to their mothers' nephews and their passports taken away if they ain't so thrilled with the arrangement, and the American Embassy and consulates ain't so troubled that they'd make any attempt to help them girls--even if underage--get back to the USA.

But heck. In Pakistan, Pakistani-born girls who try to date the wrong guy get murdered and especially if their fathers are provincial ministers etc. nobody's gonna blink an eye.

And in divorces, daughters of Cabinet Ministers can't manage to get their kids back from the ex's family if the ex's family doesn't wish to return them. The mother has rights only up till the kids' second birthday.

FYI these last two examples, I know actual examples myself.

Of course, in some states in the US we've got our own Christian Taliban types thinking pregnant women ought to be community property with the community wishing to assert custodial rights over the unborn child.

The lesson here? All cults are bad. All fundamentalist interpretations of anything--even leftist dogma--are bad for everyone.

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Michael Dansbury's avatar

There is a serious problem with damaged children being born to Pakistanis in Britain because they insist on marrying first cousins from the village back home. They used just to die but now we've developed a drug at the cost of millions per patient which keeps them alive but hideously disabled. The British pay for this of course as these people are Mirpuri peasants.

I'm afraid this isn't a case of "all religions..." it's specifically Islam which is utterly foreign to the west and certainly to Britain. I don't care whether they integrate or not as the presumption should be against their being here in the first place.

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SCA's avatar

PS: Please do not forget that Christianity is itself a Middle Eastern blood sacrifice cult which has adapted itself to local preferences wherever it was evangelized.

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Procrastnator's avatar

Except the leader of that cult said only he was to be the blood sacrifice AND ever after bread and wine were to be used as the symbolic representation of his blood sacrifice NOT anyone or anything else's blood. Now that's what I call la VERY good leader. Unfortunately there are too many who corrupt it for their own ends.

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SCA's avatar

Amazing how the entire history of Christianity is that of Christians murdering Christians for not being proper Christians according to whatever sect takes umbrage about the others.

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Michael Dansbury's avatar

Yet it has existed in Europe for millennia and we've done perfectly well with it, thanks.

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SCA's avatar

Ny goodness Michael you don't read history much, do you?

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SCA's avatar

It is best not to colonize places whose people you might not want to find in your living rooms later. In history there are no actions unconnected to things that happen afterwards.

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Michael Dansbury's avatar

We didn't have to let them in. Sweden and Germany are also crammed with immigrants yet neither had any Empire to speak of. Turkey isn't full of Arabs, Japan isn't full of Chinese!

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SCA's avatar

The Turks and Japanese do their own rampaging through other countries, from time to time, instead. The Turkic peoples are all Muslim now; the Arabs did their work and moved on.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

There is no "radical islam, there is just islam.

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carily myers's avatar

YES

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Jim Marlowe's avatar

So can we talk about the elephant in the room? A not insubstantial subset of law enforcement officers are stupid.

*Edit* The police officer who was stabbed has passed away. My comment seems intemperate. I do not intend to suggest anything about the deceased officer's intelligence. He was trying to respond. I am sorry for the suffering his family is enduring.

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eugyppius's avatar

this, but also the police were likely told to turn a blind eye should any antifa types come along and rough up BPE - that would square with their behaviour in other instances. it took them a while to realise they were dealing with a stabby afghan, initially i guess they thought they were just pulling some BPE guys off an antifa thug after the latter lost the fight.

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kertch's avatar

So, the German police still obey orders even when questionable - just like during the Nazi years. Do they have no conscience or common sense? How many police will be injured or killed in these type of events before they wise up. My guess is they never will. Most police today would rather brutalize a non-violent citizen accused of "racism" or "right-wing extremism" than go into a minority neighborhood after a violent killer, because that would actually be dangerous.

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Tonetta's avatar

That is not just the german police… we’ve just had 4 years of covid, which was testimony to that very same behavior, worldwide.

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kertch's avatar

If you are a police officer you should protest, resign, or accept the eventual consequenses of your actions.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

they're chosen to be a bit thick...

they don't see consequences, just the pay check.

They're well bribed establishment bouncers.

they will bash whoever they get pointed at and then be surprised at their treatment when their backers lose power.

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kertch's avatar

And of course, when their actions catch up to them, they will once again use the old excuse "We were just following orders".

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Karin's avatar

Same in UK - interrogating us on our way to work - bullying people sitting alone in the sunshine more than 20 feet away from others.

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Rikard's avatar

"...that would actually be dangerous."

10 year old kids throwing 2 pound rocks off of balconies on the twelfth floor is a thing that has happened here. As is their mothers and grandmothers egging them on and cheering when they almost hit someone.

Which is why police should us APCs armed with Bofors L/70 in such neighbourhoods, to return fire effectively.

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kertch's avatar

The authorities have let themselves be intimidated. They should have nipped that behavior in the bud. Now they need to use an overly agressive response to regain control.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

the Police APC would be in Aboriginal Germans neighbourhoods to keep the proles in line.

The islamic colonies do not have to follow the same rules.

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Josie Caradoc's avatar

Yes that makes a lot of sense actually in terms of trying to understand what on earth was going on

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Josie Caradoc's avatar

Particularly if you are predisposed to see the BPE as automatically being the “bad guys” in the equation

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Procrastnator's avatar

One of them may pay for that with his life.

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Fager 132's avatar

They're recruited for their stupidity and willingness to blindly obey their political masters.

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Art's avatar

That’s never happened before in Germany I’m pretty sure.

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Jim Marlowe's avatar

Exactly. See, e.g. Christopher Browning's book regarding Reserve Police Battalion 101. They were "Ordinary Men."

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CMCM's avatar

Very very eye opening book about human behavior.

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carily myers's avatar

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

; )

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

I don't know about being 'stupid'. But they are confused, as one would expect given the irrational laws and their impact on policing in Germany. The police don't seem to know how to identify the initial attacker; that is, the individual who initiated the use of force. Their response indicates that they think that *any* use of force (other than theirs, presumably) is disallowed, even self defense or the acts of a Good Samaritan. Perhaps the police were just late to the game as is often the case; it's common in life as in sports, that the second blow gets the punishment, sadly.

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Rikard's avatar

In Sweden, the lower IQ-limit for police is 85. For the men, for women there's no lower limit. Also, people with Asperger syndrome, dyslexia, ADHD/ADD will now be allowed to become police. A uniformed autistic with a lethal weapon, what could go wrong?

And for the women, the physical test is set with such a low bar we have girls is uniform, where three of them are unable to stop one man - a normal man, not a lifter or a fighter - from pretty much tossing them about like ragdolls.

Not to mention almost all female applicants are failed on the shooting test: they lack the strength to properly pull the trigger and they close their eyes when firing.

Meanwhile, it is estimated we have ca 14 000 migrants who are members of one crime clan or another, all going armed every day, with anything from 9mm pistols and handguns to AK5s and AK47s.

There is absolutely nothing that feminism cannot ruin.

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Tonetta's avatar

85! 😳😳😳😳 things have certainly changed since the days my father was a police officer (he retired in 1965). In those days, in a generally autochtone population here in the netherlands, he commanded respect. Not from fear, but by being respectful of the people, by always giving a fair warning first, and by treating everyone equal. And of course, there was not a lot of crime in small villages. Most tickets were for misdemeanors. When he died in 1988, we received a great many condolences, people writing their memories of him, testimony to how much he was liked for being honest and fair. Clearly, the police requirements were different in those days. Nowadays, police look like the thugs ready to do combat, rather than protect you.

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carily myers's avatar

holy shit, really?

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Rikard's avatar

Really. Last year, Sweden suffered at least 149 bombings, most or all carried out by migrant crime clans, most of them from moslem nations.

For 2023, there was ca 500 shootings, many in public places and some involving completely innocent bystanders, also some where the criminal shot family members of the target instead. Out of the 500, ca 100 led to the victim dying.

The city of Malmö, where the majority population is moslem (swedes are ca 35% of the inhabitants), holds the "honour" of being the 76th most dangerous city in the world, placing between Portland (USA) and Teheran (Iran).

As I used to live there several years ago, and things have gotten worse since, I'm inclined to believe the ranking is well-earned.

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James Dawson's avatar

When needed this second, the police are minutes away…

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Thunder Road's avatar

And then they show up and make everything worse.

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Jim Marlowe's avatar

Or, try this, a not insignificant subset of law enforcement are stupid.

I understand your and eugy's points, but I really was going for the point about intelligence. It shouldn't be discounted. You probably need an above-the-mean IQ to avoid pinning the wrong guy. Want to take a wager on where on the spectrum this officer lands?

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Karin's avatar

Even the low IQ types usually have street smarts and cunning - these police appear to have neither.

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Sez777's avatar

Confused AND quite literally afraid of the consequences - both physical, and political/social.

When Police have had it drilled into them that migrants are "hands-off" because it hurts the political narrative, it's going to cause reticence and hesitation, even in the face of overt and blatant migrant violence and obvious criminality.

They made this bed.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Yes, but mainly here in the US we have found that cops will do anything their political leaders tell them to do in order to retire and get their pensions at age 45...Then they move to a State with real law enforcement.....

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Tamenund's avatar

Interesting point.

With what this country endured in 2020 while PDs across the nation stood down, we're really not in any position to point fingers at the German Polizei.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

in the UK in 2002, during the Arch Tyrant Blair's misrule, the countryside alliance peaceful march was attacked by "police".

It's just escalated since then.

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Tonetta's avatar

I believe they are selected for that precise reason. Many are All muscle no brain. The ads to join portray that image too. You obey and don’t do any individual thinking, much like the military. If you do, you likely want to quit.

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carily myers's avatar

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Eustis Calamity's avatar

Sulaiman was the aggressor, plain and simple. He initiated the use of violence. Just because his feelings somehow got hurt, the use of force did not originate with speech, either oral or written. Speech, despite all the irrational laws in Germany and elsewhere declaring it to be so, is not the use of force. Wendt is an a** to suggest otherwise.

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James Dawson's avatar

Like the woman in the suggestive outfit, he likely deserved it…🙄

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Karin's avatar

More like the establishment elites have found a use for Antifa and terrorists like this one.

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Mcferic's avatar

The man seems handy with a knife — almost like he’s done it before. But don’t mention it. It’s extreme to notice such things.

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Karin's avatar

Especially as his hand didn’t slip on the knife handle despite the blood.

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carily myers's avatar

UGH

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Karin's avatar

I grew up in a port city in Sub-Saharan Africa. Plenty of knife crime - attacker is eye to eye with victim.

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Mcferic's avatar

Yep

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NE - Naked Emperor Newsletter's avatar

Similar to Fico, if the individual doesn't fit the MSM narrative, it was probably their fault.

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Karin's avatar

In this case, the policeman got what he wasn’t expecting -will he reflect? Probably not.

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JPC's avatar

Politically correct policing.

Every time.

Regardless of consequences.

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Karin's avatar

Yes, we see it in London too. The lack of situational awareness of the many police in this case is an object lesson in consequences.

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JPC's avatar

Scared of disciplinary consequences than dying.

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Procrastnator's avatar

I understand that he might not live to reflect on it.

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Karin's avatar

An avoidable tragedy. Must have been the adrenalin that allowed the policeman to stand up after being stabbed.

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Procrastnator's avatar

I must admit, I watched and thought he had his neck slashed, but it certainly didn't look as though he was so badly injured. I assume it was a blood loss issue, but who knows? I hope he lives, though it will be tragically interesting to see the response if he does not. Because it wan't the people he went to restrain and was holding down who knifed him.

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Karin's avatar

I wonder what lessons his colleagues will learn after his death on duty. That was such inept policing. I think I saw only one policeman draw his gun (and shoot)in the face of an existential threat. Were they lacking self-preservation instincts, unarmed, poorly trained?

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carily myers's avatar

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

"... before the police had even identified any suspects – the entire German political establishment felt confident in blaming the incident on ‘the right,’ while Die Zeit as late as this morning claimed that Sulaiman’s motives were “unknown” and that police were still investigating the possible “political background” of his attack."

Clearly, the German media must have attended the American Media University for News Distortion. Or maybe it was vice-versa. In either case, that "international choir" seems to be singing from the same sheet of music.

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Tamenund's avatar

"In either case, that "international choir" seems to be singing from the same sheet of music."

I'm pretty sure the CIA is the songwriter.

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

That wouldn't surprise me at all. Any agency capable of assassinating a U.S. President and getting away with it for more than 60 years should be able to make short work of suborning the lamestream media worldwide.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

The talmud.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown's avatar

or perhaps 5eyes?

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carily myers's avatar

Isn't it strange that ALL European nations got deluged with Sub-Saharan Africans, Afghani's, Syrians, Libians (any muslim country) ALL at the same time? Weird, right?

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

Seems to me I recall that was Angela Merkel who unilaterally decided about 10 years ago to cancel all border controls and tell the entire Middle Eastern and African world, "You-all come! We haven't got nearly enough members of the welfare state here." Is it any wonder they all said, "Thank you for your kind invitation! Here we come!" And since then, nobody has been willing to step up and say, "Enough is enough." and put a stop to it. And once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's pretty much impossible to get it back in.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

90% males.

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Frederic whinery's avatar

After watching this video I now understand the argument for defunding the police.

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eugyppius's avatar

the incompetence is so egregious that in a functional political system they would all be fired at the very least.

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Rob Shouting Into The Void's avatar

What I can¡t understand is why the police handcuffed Stürzenberger but not Sulaiman - or even kicked the knife away or had someone standing over him - seems like policing 101

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Rocío Matamoros's avatar

Because they're functioning as political police. They've been told Stürzenberger is the problem, not any person who attacks him.

That's the ideological part. The stupidity part came when the political policeman turned his back on the Afghan.

The establishment love for Islam is not reciprocated, and never will be.

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CS's avatar

That's absolutely correct. Police forces throughout the West are now political actors.

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Sez777's avatar

Rocio you win 'Most Insightful Prescient Comment' I've read today.

Spot on.

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carily myers's avatar

Aboslutely correct. Europe is lost. I used to think it was only London, I was wrong.

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Alan's avatar

Stürzenberger’s colleague that pulled Sulaiman off did toss the knife away while the police where trying to figure out what was happening.

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Thunder Road's avatar

Yes. Just before the gal cuffed him up. Police gals are awesome.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

How are ponytail pigs "awesome"????

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kapock's avatar

I was about to post similar, but the kicker for me was the quote from police union official Wendt claiming it’s unreasonable to expect the police to come between an attacker and his victims if the guy looks, like, really dangerous.

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Clay's avatar

Reminds me of a like from Demolition Man: "We're police office officers! We're not trained to handle that kind of violence!"

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alexei's avatar

They have guns. How about shooting the attacked in the foot or leg to disable them, or are the German police afraid of being sued?

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Silva's avatar

Shooting is only justified when someone's life is in immediate danger. When someone's life is in immediate danger, you shoot to stop the threat as quickly and effectively as possible, since not doing so could mean the person in question will die or be grievously wounded. The most rapid, effective way of ending that danger is to shoot center of mass, not at the quickly moving, hard to hit legs.

Shooting at a person is always deadly force, regardless of whether the intent is to have the wound be nonlethal. A justified shooting has only one motive: to stop the attack and save a life. The goal is never to kill, so shooting to wound is not a more benign alternative to shooting to kill.

Shooting at the legs, legally speaking (as a non-lawyer from the US), suggests that the shooter does not find that someone's life is in immediate danger, so discharging a firearm at that person (whether or not he died, or was even hit) is a use of deadly force that was not justified by the accompanying perception that someone's life was in danger if the shot was not taken. That means that shooting for the leg could lead to an attempted murder charge, when shooting center of mass (ie at the chest) would be consistent with self-defense. Whether this argument has been tried in court or not, I do not know, but prosecutors come up with some truly bizarre legal theories to make sure people's lives are suitably ruined for doing things the legislature clearly intended to be legal.

Inside 21 feet (about 7 meters), a person wielding a knife can probably close the distance and stab you before you can present the weapon and shoot. A knife is very capable of inflicting wounds just as deadly as a gun, and must be treated as such. If there is a way to solve the problem without taking the shot, by all means, do so, but if there is an innocent person in danger (including oneself), that takes precedence over the life of the attacker.

I do not know what the laws of other countries are like (and in the US, it varies by state), but the basic principles of firearm use (as defensive tools whose use is to save life) would probably be at least somewhat similar.

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Thunder Road's avatar

100% correct.

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Karin's avatar

Hard to shoot legs especially when attacker is moving. The torso is bigger, and easier to hit.

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Yancey Ward's avatar

Germany has become a clown country.

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carily myers's avatar

Angela, childless, socialist, made sure she destroyed Germany before she resigned. Only later did she say, oops, coulda been a bad idea. WEF loves her for her service.

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Tardigrade's avatar

So German mainstream thinking seems to be that speech is worse than any sort of violence?

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CS's avatar

Succinctly expressed!

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Bernard Vance's avatar

In the US this guy actively stabbing someone warrants the immediate use of deadly force by the police. The officer wouldn't have been stabbed had he simply acted and immediately shot the perpetrator. This is standard training in the US. Obviously, Germany's use of force protocols favor the assailant while putting innocent victims and the police in danger of bodily harm. I'm a Sheriff's deputy in a very conservative US state but I would never take the job of police officer in Germany in the service of a tyrannical state or nation.

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CS's avatar

Yeah, I think police in the USA even in this day and age would have been much more professional and effective.

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rbj's avatar

Thank you brother! From Conservative Oswego County NY

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carily myers's avatar

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Rikard's avatar

A typical moslem, acting in a way typical to moslems. That's all.

You can put a buzzard in a chicken-coop; it will remain a buzzard.

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L  Young's avatar

From the stance that the police officers take I can tell right away that the “Good” man is the man with the blade and he is doing work the officers approve of. He is NOT to be interfered with! Unfortunately he gets a little carried away there at the end. I would say if you sympathize with the victims that you should immediately leave that area because obviously your government has been completely taken over by your enemies and is just being used, at this point, to mop up the last of the resistance. The enemy is no longer at the gates, he’s inside the castle and he’s whispering into the ear of your queen.

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Bohunk Pundit's avatar

So, would the stabby Muslim had been shot if he'd just left the Police Officer alone and instead stuck his knife in the neck of another BPE activist?

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Karin's avatar

Probably wouldn’t have been shot. As it is, he wasn’t shot and killed.

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Aaron Thomsen's avatar

Nope, the system pigs wouldn't have shot the moslem if the moslem didn't attack one of their fellow system pigs.

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