I wanted to let the daft public health advice speak for itself, but one mildly interesting aspect of their hostility to portable AC units, is that they don't really seem to understand how they work. You don't just buy a room AC device and run a hose through an open window, you buy an insulating sleeve that you glue/velcro around the window to keep the exhaust air out. Installation is trivial and takes maybe 5 minutes. Are they super efficient? No. But they're good enough and you only them to cool one room (where you sleep) for about three weeks/year. Not a big deal.
I think the public health authorities are critical of portable AC units precisely because they are effective. If everyone takes to portable ACs they can't draw all this attention to themselves as the catastrophe saviors.
Exactly. Solutions that come from people themselves are _sinful_. "Solutions" from the transcendent Government are _virtuous_. Pay no heed to the trickering deceits from material existence, the very Father of Lies!
Knowing the green struggles of the German Government they are likely afraid users will spread the word that the units work and the grid will not have the capacity to carry the A/C demand. Think California
Wow. They probably have no personal experience with window air conditioning units. Perhaps, when the AfD gets into power, they can fire these idiots en masse, as they so clearly deserve. (And don't give them any unemployment benefits either.)
The cheaper single block devices have a compressor in the room and transport the heat by blowing hot air through a hose. This does indeed cause the air pressure in the room to drop and warmer air will be sucked into the room from the outside, whether it’s the next room or outside the window. You can reduce this by using a sleeve, but you will never get your window airtight. I have gone so far as to replace the glass pane with a sheet of metal with a hole in it, and this actually prevented any outside air from getting in, but you don’t have a see-through window anymore, which some people may not like.
Of course all this doesn’t mean that this kind of AC won’t help at all, but it’s for small rooms only and will use a lot of energy.
The better solution is a split device, which has a separate box with a compressor and a ventilator, connected to the main unit by two hoses where hot liquid goes out and cooler liquid comes back in. No air is blown outside and therefore no air is sucked in. Having a box hanging out your window with a noisy compressor and fan may not help your popularity with your neighbors, however.
Absolutely true, but generally cold damp Germany is a good niche use case for these devices. I have split installed in 4 rooms myself, gets perhaps 6 to 8 weeks sporadic use a year.
They work to a decent extent even without the insulation, unless there’s a strong breeze blowing the exhausted hot air directly back in through the window.
The sad thing here is either the general population is really stupid enough to believe that non-sense, or the politicians think they are. On the other hand, enough of you voted for these morons.
The other idiocy (maybe pointed out by others already): The "wet cooling clothes" thing does not work in a closed environment. It is like opening the fridge and thinking it will cool your flat. The sum of energy i. e. warmth stays the same, especially if you follow the advice and close the windows 😂
so the hose transports warmed up air to the outside.
and that air is replaced by air from the outside that in fact is hotter than the air in the room.
so depending on the difference in temperatures of the inside and outside air the situation may occur that running the mobile ac actually heats up the room...
but even then it will feel like it actually cools because it also extracts a lot of moisture from the air which makes it feel like being cooler.
It took German OEMs ages to understand consumer requirements of North America and the Pacific rim. I saw a famous exchange between Ford Werke and Ford HQ in deepest Arizona. Both used the same words, neither understood each other, but only one was correct. And it was golfing time he was giving up to argue why it's important.
I don't know how you can stand it. For me sitting on the porch, in the shade, reading a book, with a cold beverage, makes the 34C normal summer day in Tampa almost bearable until the inevitable (and welcome) 4 pm downpour hits. Then maybe I can handle a round of golf or a walk on the beach. But honestly, nothing short of an orgasm beats the relief of coming into AC after being outside.
This is such BS. When I was a child, my siblings and I used to visit my grandparents in Houston in the summer. This was the 1950s. They had no air conditioning. We fought about who got to sleep in front of an open window, where there might be a slight breeze. We were happy, and we were fine. My grandparents lived to a ripe old age. I am pretty sure there is no place in Germany as hot and humid as Houston in the summer.
It is what you are adapted to. My Brazilian cousins want the heating on at 80 F. They do fine in Houston tier weather with homes designed for hot, humid "summers". Like hammocks on their flat roofs.
Germans are adapted to winter and massive snow loads. One size does not fit all. And that's the beauty of our diverse folk. Let nations change with charity and kindness, like many gentle years of organic choices, not by setting a bomb and blowing up an avalanche.
And that's assuming the what? Of the question "change into...?" is virtuous, beautiful, and / or wise?
Cold kills many more people than heat. I have been living in the middle east for the last 19 years and yes, unless you are so nuts to exercise at lunch time, heat is annoying but bearable, especially with A/C everywhere.
Right now it’s 33 in South Florida. No one is dying. But they display the same red heat maps on the television weather, superimposed with “feels like” temperatures, not actual temps. “Feels like” is usually 15 degrees higher!
yesterday here in GA it was 88 but supposed to feel like 101. It was not, the dog and I could comfortably walk outside in the shade. And today my cooling broke down. I think I will survive till they come out to fix it. The humidity is what causes me to be uncomfortable. I lived in AZ for a year and had no problems with the heat at all, even though I am originally from cool Belgium. Well not so cool these days. I just read that the retirement home dismissed the ball game due to the heat.
Well, yeah, 'cuz here in central FL it's just under 32° at 70% humidity (soon climbing to 80%). It feels like you're walking around under a hot wet blanket. Back home it's 38° at 16% and feels like mild summer. You get out of the pool and the air is actually chilly.
this is so fucking retarded. I'm 54 playing tennis in florida right now in 95 degree weather.
it feels like a million degrees with the humidity on the hard courts....and wait for it...I'm drinking water and sitting in the shade between switching sides of the court. i'll live.
When I lived in Florida I survived summers working outdoors using the same strategy. Now when I visit (only in summer - otherwise it's too crowded) I stay inside my air-conditioned-to-subarctic hotel room from about 11 am until 4 or 5 pm, then enjoy the balmy evening and night.
I once played in a regional softball tournament at a sunny 110°; our uniforms were black polyester. We hosed ourselves down between innings, and had a great time.
I was just thinking about him, wondering if he'll get processed for Wrong Think when he returns to Germany. Ice (free!) in soda. Hundreds of gas pumps in one single location. A/C cranked so high sweaters are required.... And available to all, with the will to implement.
Unlike traditional Christian theology—where Christ paid the price for sin completely and suffering is an ambient condition rather than a quota—climatism relies heavily on a works-based calculus of penance. You must feel the friction of restraint to offset your ecological guilt. This manifests in several ways:
Asceticism as Virtue: Modern asceticism involves choosing inconvenience or mild suffering—shunning air travel, enduring higher or lower indoor temperatures, adopting dietary restrictions, and reducing consumption. The discomfort itself is proof of moral alignment.
That has a minor effect, but what really loads the city down is the asphalt roadways. I live 35 miles outside the city and slightly higher -- at night we're maybe 3°(F) cooler than Phoenix, but during the day the differential is 2x or 3x that.
The very town I live in owes its existence to... no air conditioning.
Before A/C, people in Phoenix used to wrap themselves in wet bedsheets and sleep on porches and fire escapes.
The rich would send their family to the "hot springs spa" at higher elevation for the entire hot season. They would get on the train and ride out to "Hot Springs Junction" (we've changed our name since), at which point they would sleep overnight at the hotel, then transfer to a stagecoach for their trip up to the mountain spa. Then in the fall, make the reverse trip.
The spa still operates. Its most famous guest was arguably JFK, sent there to recuperate after his PT boat incident.
Exactly the same here. I remember driving through Sacramento many years ago and checking the temperature; because of the pavement, city temps were 10°F higher than immediately outside the city.
Car exhaust and AC exhaust contribute to the heat also. It's a cumulative thing.
"Close the windows and hang up damp clothes to maximize chances of mold." Thank you Federal Republic of Germany for the excellent advice.
I will eventually get at least one dreaded portable AC to speed up climate change while selfishly cooling myself down but so far I've been putting it off because I'm a Europoor with third world mindset. I do have stowed away somewhere in the basement a real ghetto AC which functions more like a fan but can be filled with ice cubes to make it blow out cold air. It makes a "clank" every time the vents turn. It's been out of use for 5+ years because it doesn't get that hot in my city. But now climate change has reared its ugly head and has sent us a hyper mega killer death heat wave to claim the lives of German boomers. Brace for impact.
Over here in the UK, I haven't even dared to look at the "Gnews". (Not that I ever do anyway).
I'm just getting the downstream effects, as when you're standing downwind of someone with weakened anal sphincter muscles who had curried eggs and beans for breakfast... everyone FREAKING OUT about DANGER of DEATH!!!
Forget the World Cup: Germany and the UK are in a far more important competition to find out which country is the more demented. It's a close race...
... in the changing room, after being sent off: "yeah well we played well, played a blinder, obviously I'm totally gutted - sick as a parrot - that I'm not out there now, but it's a game of two halves know what I mean? I trust the team like, I know the boys will carry on the GREAT work without me".
I wanted to let the daft public health advice speak for itself, but one mildly interesting aspect of their hostility to portable AC units, is that they don't really seem to understand how they work. You don't just buy a room AC device and run a hose through an open window, you buy an insulating sleeve that you glue/velcro around the window to keep the exhaust air out. Installation is trivial and takes maybe 5 minutes. Are they super efficient? No. But they're good enough and you only them to cool one room (where you sleep) for about three weeks/year. Not a big deal.
I think the public health authorities are critical of portable AC units precisely because they are effective. If everyone takes to portable ACs they can't draw all this attention to themselves as the catastrophe saviors.
Exactly. Solutions that come from people themselves are _sinful_. "Solutions" from the transcendent Government are _virtuous_. Pay no heed to the trickering deceits from material existence, the very Father of Lies!
It's all very Gnostic.
Knowing the green struggles of the German Government they are likely afraid users will spread the word that the units work and the grid will not have the capacity to carry the A/C demand. Think California
Well, they shut down a bunch of nuclear power plants, what could go wrong?
100%
Wow. They probably have no personal experience with window air conditioning units. Perhaps, when the AfD gets into power, they can fire these idiots en masse, as they so clearly deserve. (And don't give them any unemployment benefits either.)
There are two kinds of mobile AC devices.
The cheaper single block devices have a compressor in the room and transport the heat by blowing hot air through a hose. This does indeed cause the air pressure in the room to drop and warmer air will be sucked into the room from the outside, whether it’s the next room or outside the window. You can reduce this by using a sleeve, but you will never get your window airtight. I have gone so far as to replace the glass pane with a sheet of metal with a hole in it, and this actually prevented any outside air from getting in, but you don’t have a see-through window anymore, which some people may not like.
Of course all this doesn’t mean that this kind of AC won’t help at all, but it’s for small rooms only and will use a lot of energy.
The better solution is a split device, which has a separate box with a compressor and a ventilator, connected to the main unit by two hoses where hot liquid goes out and cooler liquid comes back in. No air is blown outside and therefore no air is sucked in. Having a box hanging out your window with a noisy compressor and fan may not help your popularity with your neighbors, however.
Absolutely true, but generally cold damp Germany is a good niche use case for these devices. I have split installed in 4 rooms myself, gets perhaps 6 to 8 weeks sporadic use a year.
They work to a decent extent even without the insulation, unless there’s a strong breeze blowing the exhausted hot air directly back in through the window.
The sad thing here is either the general population is really stupid enough to believe that non-sense, or the politicians think they are. On the other hand, enough of you voted for these morons.
Rommel’s Afrika Corps famously eschewed portable air conditioners for this exact reason, they couldn’t get a good seal in the Panzers.
LOL!
Try Florida without central air conditioning.
The other idiocy (maybe pointed out by others already): The "wet cooling clothes" thing does not work in a closed environment. It is like opening the fridge and thinking it will cool your flat. The sum of energy i. e. warmth stays the same, especially if you follow the advice and close the windows 😂
so the hose transports warmed up air to the outside.
and that air is replaced by air from the outside that in fact is hotter than the air in the room.
so depending on the difference in temperatures of the inside and outside air the situation may occur that running the mobile ac actually heats up the room...
but even then it will feel like it actually cools because it also extracts a lot of moisture from the air which makes it feel like being cooler.
It’s a miracle that people who live in hotter climates than Europe’s have survived so long without this helpful advice from Germany.
Well, German air conditioning is famous....
USA: A car has to produce ice fog within minutes of starting the car.
Germany: The same, after many, many hours - which consumes less energy.
Living in Florida I keep wondering "are all Germans this timid and/or stupid?" When do the adults in the room stand up to be counted?
Harsh - but fair. The Europeans are still working on the answer.....
What kinda German cars have you been in dawg? Mine produces ice cold air within a minute.
It took German OEMs ages to understand consumer requirements of North America and the Pacific rim. I saw a famous exchange between Ford Werke and Ford HQ in deepest Arizona. Both used the same words, neither understood each other, but only one was correct. And it was golfing time he was giving up to argue why it's important.
In Palm Springs it is 100-115 from June to September
Same here—it helps that it's a dry heat ;)
I have no AC. I practice window management.
I don't know how you can stand it. For me sitting on the porch, in the shade, reading a book, with a cold beverage, makes the 34C normal summer day in Tampa almost bearable until the inevitable (and welcome) 4 pm downpour hits. Then maybe I can handle a round of golf or a walk on the beach. But honestly, nothing short of an orgasm beats the relief of coming into AC after being outside.
Humidity has a lot to do with it. Admittedly, if I lived in the Midwest today, I might break down and get AC.
Isn't it, though!
This is such BS. When I was a child, my siblings and I used to visit my grandparents in Houston in the summer. This was the 1950s. They had no air conditioning. We fought about who got to sleep in front of an open window, where there might be a slight breeze. We were happy, and we were fine. My grandparents lived to a ripe old age. I am pretty sure there is no place in Germany as hot and humid as Houston in the summer.
It is what you are adapted to. My Brazilian cousins want the heating on at 80 F. They do fine in Houston tier weather with homes designed for hot, humid "summers". Like hammocks on their flat roofs.
Germans are adapted to winter and massive snow loads. One size does not fit all. And that's the beauty of our diverse folk. Let nations change with charity and kindness, like many gentle years of organic choices, not by setting a bomb and blowing up an avalanche.
And that's assuming the what? Of the question "change into...?" is virtuous, beautiful, and / or wise?
I don't think acclimatization is a lifelong process. You can get used to changed weather in a shorter time.
When will Communist Climate Hysteria be properly challenged?
When our masters need more electricity to run their data surveillance centers.
That's already happening. Suddenly energy efficiency is not so important.
When the leeches are full of cash
Cold kills many more people than heat. I have been living in the middle east for the last 19 years and yes, unless you are so nuts to exercise at lunch time, heat is annoying but bearable, especially with A/C everywhere.
Right now it’s 33 in South Florida. No one is dying. But they display the same red heat maps on the television weather, superimposed with “feels like” temperatures, not actual temps. “Feels like” is usually 15 degrees higher!
yesterday here in GA it was 88 but supposed to feel like 101. It was not, the dog and I could comfortably walk outside in the shade. And today my cooling broke down. I think I will survive till they come out to fix it. The humidity is what causes me to be uncomfortable. I lived in AZ for a year and had no problems with the heat at all, even though I am originally from cool Belgium. Well not so cool these days. I just read that the retirement home dismissed the ball game due to the heat.
Well, yeah, 'cuz here in central FL it's just under 32° at 70% humidity (soon climbing to 80%). It feels like you're walking around under a hot wet blanket. Back home it's 38° at 16% and feels like mild summer. You get out of the pool and the air is actually chilly.
this is so fucking retarded. I'm 54 playing tennis in florida right now in 95 degree weather.
it feels like a million degrees with the humidity on the hard courts....and wait for it...I'm drinking water and sitting in the shade between switching sides of the court. i'll live.
When I lived in Florida I survived summers working outdoors using the same strategy. Now when I visit (only in summer - otherwise it's too crowded) I stay inside my air-conditioned-to-subarctic hotel room from about 11 am until 4 or 5 pm, then enjoy the balmy evening and night.
I once played in a regional softball tournament at a sunny 110°; our uniforms were black polyester. We hosed ourselves down between innings, and had a great time.
What is your opinion of Freddy the German? He is seeing the best of America during the World Cup. We have monster stadiums with air conditioning.
I was just thinking about him, wondering if he'll get processed for Wrong Think when he returns to Germany. Ice (free!) in soda. Hundreds of gas pumps in one single location. A/C cranked so high sweaters are required.... And available to all, with the will to implement.
'A/C cranked so high sweaters are required'
When going to the grocery store or visiting friends, I've learned to take a jacket.
This is the one issue I have with AC here in the south. Every business seems to think that the hotter it is outside, the colder it must be inside.
I know, right? Why must it be frigid?
Yes, I did wonder if Freddy had commented on our AC.
Unlike traditional Christian theology—where Christ paid the price for sin completely and suffering is an ambient condition rather than a quota—climatism relies heavily on a works-based calculus of penance. You must feel the friction of restraint to offset your ecological guilt. This manifests in several ways:
Asceticism as Virtue: Modern asceticism involves choosing inconvenience or mild suffering—shunning air travel, enduring higher or lower indoor temperatures, adopting dietary restrictions, and reducing consumption. The discomfort itself is proof of moral alignment.
Yeah, people in Phoenix really suffer from all the heat being dumped outdoors by the air con....
That has a minor effect, but what really loads the city down is the asphalt roadways. I live 35 miles outside the city and slightly higher -- at night we're maybe 3°(F) cooler than Phoenix, but during the day the differential is 2x or 3x that.
It's the “heat island” effect. My point was that AC isn't making life unlivable in Phoenix, it allows life in Phoenix.
The very town I live in owes its existence to... no air conditioning.
Before A/C, people in Phoenix used to wrap themselves in wet bedsheets and sleep on porches and fire escapes.
The rich would send their family to the "hot springs spa" at higher elevation for the entire hot season. They would get on the train and ride out to "Hot Springs Junction" (we've changed our name since), at which point they would sleep overnight at the hotel, then transfer to a stagecoach for their trip up to the mountain spa. Then in the fall, make the reverse trip.
The spa still operates. Its most famous guest was arguably JFK, sent there to recuperate after his PT boat incident.
https://www.castlehotsprings.com/
Exactly the same here. I remember driving through Sacramento many years ago and checking the temperature; because of the pavement, city temps were 10°F higher than immediately outside the city.
Car exhaust and AC exhaust contribute to the heat also. It's a cumulative thing.
Literally smaller than Texas, why not drive to Switzerland for a couple of weeks? Or Bohemia.
it's pretty pleasant in northern Germany along the coast as well right now.
Hey! I was in Rostock in the middle of winter. I can well believe that summer is welcome there
Yes, just start driving up the nearby mountains!
"Close the windows and hang up damp clothes to maximize chances of mold." Thank you Federal Republic of Germany for the excellent advice.
I will eventually get at least one dreaded portable AC to speed up climate change while selfishly cooling myself down but so far I've been putting it off because I'm a Europoor with third world mindset. I do have stowed away somewhere in the basement a real ghetto AC which functions more like a fan but can be filled with ice cubes to make it blow out cold air. It makes a "clank" every time the vents turn. It's been out of use for 5+ years because it doesn't get that hot in my city. But now climate change has reared its ugly head and has sent us a hyper mega killer death heat wave to claim the lives of German boomers. Brace for impact.
Are you certain your ghetto AC has an updated electrical cord?
When you plug it in and turn it on, you could be responsible for the end of the world 😂
So I looked at my WW weather app, and it tells me today the highs are:
92° In London
83° In Berlin
97° In Paris
95° in Milan
I’m sorry, but 92° is a warm spring day in Memphis. Sure is a lot of caterwauling over there for a nice, sunny day.
Enjoy it!
waydaminute.... 92 in your money is 33 Celsius (plus small change). London, 33C. What's the fuss about? Unusual, but not unbearable...
Over here in the UK, I haven't even dared to look at the "Gnews". (Not that I ever do anyway).
I'm just getting the downstream effects, as when you're standing downwind of someone with weakened anal sphincter muscles who had curried eggs and beans for breakfast... everyone FREAKING OUT about DANGER of DEATH!!!
Forget the World Cup: Germany and the UK are in a far more important competition to find out which country is the more demented. It's a close race...
Mr Starmer KC is available for interviews!
... in the changing room, after being sent off: "yeah well we played well, played a blinder, obviously I'm totally gutted - sick as a parrot - that I'm not out there now, but it's a game of two halves know what I mean? I trust the team like, I know the boys will carry on the GREAT work without me".
It's as if Lord Hermer and Sir Starmer were in the room. 'Come on you blues!'
Thermal management by people who are not engineers and think of Settled Science.
Also known as complete and utter libtards.
do as we say, not as we do.
You can be assured all of them have central AC, and their chauffeur 's cars have massive AC
I think you are correct.
The Climate Change pushers are hell bent on authoritarian rule still as the hoax has been exposed to the masses.
Amazon owner Jeff Bezos wife is now in charge of giving out $ 10 Billion greenbacks to keep it going.
Gonna be awhile before this BS ends with a whimper.
RESIST !