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When Citizenship becomes meaningless & is nothing more than Contiguous with Residency, the very existence of Values, Mores, Customs, etc. is put into doubt:

Basically, making Citizenship 'exceptionally cheap' likewise cheapens all of the above, thereby it acts as a slow poison which inevitably Hollows out & deracinates those nations who pursue such things. Germany & the wider West are unfortunately about to reach the climax of said process.

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I think dual citizenship is a total no-no. Belgium has it, and the US allows it but frowns on it. When I decided I would spend the rest of my life here, I gave up my belgian citizenship. Isn't that normal? How can you be part of 2 countries? In which country do you vote? I think the rules should at least be kept, that one speaks the language of the country. I am appalled at all the Italians living in Belgium for 50+ years who do not speak a word of Flemish (I think the ones on the French side are a bit better). I am also astonished at the numbers of Spanish speaking here, who do not speak one word of English (my neighbors). I also read 25 years ago, that some German villages had 70% turkish inhabitants, and the German boys were harrassed in school by their kids. Not right!

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Absolutely agree with you. I often hear this argument that double (or even triple) citizenship should be a right. This is usually argued from an emotional perspective (loyalty to your country of birth). But you ask indeed the correct questions. Where does your loyalty really lie if you need more than one citizenship. Seems like this person wants to have their cake and eat it too. This boils down to entitlement. They always want the back door open in case the extrement hits the fan

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I retain dual citizenship (British & Polish) albeit not German, despite living here over 9 years. Brexit etc.

However, as I still retain business interests in the UK, giving up UK citizenship would cause untold problems. I imagine there's many more like me too. I took Polish citizenship to retain EU membership and all that entails in making life simpler here in DE. If DE citizenship is allowed when you've already got 2 others, remains to be seen. Had I not missed out on it in the first place (by 4 days!) then life would be much simpler.

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In your case yes, that is a reason to keep it. But that should be the exceptions and not the rule

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Problem is, there are countries that do not allow to renounce citizenship. I would happily renounce the citizenship of the hell hole I was born in (actually of its descendant, since the one I was born in doesn't even exist anymore), but it doesn't allow it. I don't even have any id papers of that country anymore, but the label of dual citizenship still follows me everywhere (because it is in the population register). And not only me, but even my kids, who don't even speak that language well. And every politician a bit too much to the right here will make a point of trying to take the citizenship away from them if elected - because, you know, "security risk", he is afraid.

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As a human I'M a citizen of the planet and need no passport to be here ,in any country .

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indeed that is how it should be. unfortunately once they started with this crap this is what we are with! I recently read that former doctor Guylaine Lanctot was so fed up with her country Canada, that she gave up her citizenship. I wonder how you travel then, though!

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Ingrid I agree with you What we wish for and what we get are two very different things .

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A sensible reason to retain dual citizenship is to provide an escape hatch from totalitarian states and forced injections- you might get lucky with your second choice. It also allows you to "diversify" your financial holdings.

A practical reason is to allow you to choose the shorter line at border crossings or airports.

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infact, if I had kept both, I would be worse off with the jabs in the old country. I have no financial holdings, so that solves another problem. And as to the lines at the airport, the last 2 times the line at the American gate was longer than the one with the Europeans! That was bad luck, of course, several African planes had just landed before the American one. And now I am no longer flying, given the jabbed pilots and the farce with diverse crews! Imagine with my luck, that I end up with a blind pilot !

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You should be part of exactly 0 country. Tribalism under a dyed cotton rectangle should be forgotten.

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it has been 5 years now, but I know because I had an Italian friend, she was from the French speaking part. I no longer go back, because of god knows what may happen when I am there and I got animals here. Last time I was in Antwerp, I noticed it was a rather moroccan city nowadays. The street where my friend's daughter lives has one belgian (read white) person in it - that daughter. I would not want to live there anymore!

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I'd argue it's not just making citizenship "cheaper" but this, combined with multiculturalism and opposition to assimilation/integration that makes residency as citizenship problematic from a social and civic perspective.

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I understand that in Turkish Communities in Germany ,Germans can apply for Turkish Citizenship to fit in with their neighbors .

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How utterly ridiculous.

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I do not know many Germans that would do that!

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100% this. Well said

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I also think this is not a good for democracy and unfair. My son had to give up his South African citizenship to become a German citizen. He made the choice because he is married to a German woman and his children are German, he made the choice to have a vote to have a say in the way his wife and children are ruled. Now it has become useless

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You describe it so well.

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Well, that's wonderful! Honor killings will soon become as German as bratwurst and beer.

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Well, as long as there’s still bratwurst and beer!

But, that’ll be replaced with falafel and goat-piss soon enough.

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You silly, you. Muslims outside Muslim countries love to drink alcohol. Makes it that much easier to behead one's naughty daughters. [They love to drink alcohol in their Muslim countries too but it's a wee bit more challenging to get.]

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Please Germans don't complain .Olaf is thinking making a law so the migrants of the desert countries can bring their pet camels and goats along to Germany for humanitarian reasons .

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Here in the good old USA, it would be allowed for psychological reasons!

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I'm gonna contact the Green Party and demand they sponsor a law to allow airline passengers to bring camels aboard flights as their emotional support animals

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You should do it.

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Years ago on a bus tour through Germany I joined a bier drinking Party in the Hof brauhaus in Munich .Does that mean I have Bavarian Citizenship now .??

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If you are Turkisch, yes! Just send your preferred mailing address to the Welfare Office so they can send the monthly checks.

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You miss understand ,I was riding a bus not a camel ,so how can I collect ,anything >|?

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Sorry, I thought camels were only allowed in Munich if their forebears were ridden in East Germany.

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At least in that will be the case in the Turkish "autonomous zones". Remember, any unaccompanied female, especially one that dresses like the typical western teenager, can expect to be gang-raped without recourse.

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I hear women in Sweden are dyeing their hair black to avoid being targeted.

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Horrifying but true.

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Perfect! ☝🏻🤣😯

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honor killings are good for the climate. less "useless eaters", to cite our friends at WEF.

beer and bratwurst on the other hand are even worse than coffee, in terms of co2 footprint

as you can see, all goes according to plan

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the present German government does not work in the interest of the GERMAN people

that is why AfD is needed

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Same goes for all our governments not working in the interests of their people.

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All western governments appear to be committed to an “ buy votes by giving free stuff to illegal immigrants and the most useless citizens” policy, and fog the productive taxpayers.

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Saddest of all is the fact that none of this comes from mere ignorance or incompetence. It is of a piece with the implosion of democratic norms in process across the West, the handiwork of truly evil overlords who have had enough of the concept of individual sovereignty and self-determination. It's all coming to a head in 2024. Living in interesting times, indeed.

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"America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance — it is not. It is suffering from tolerance. Tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos. Our country is not nearly so overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded."

Fulton J. Sheen -- "A Plea For Intolerance" (1931)

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It's incredible that Bishop Sheen said that almost 100 years ago.

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It is indeed :) If you have not read his writings about communism, I heartily recommend it. He was a staunch anti-communist, and saw with amazing clarity several very specific things that have come to pass. And a very great man.

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He was certainly a prophet.

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He was a faithful servant of Our Lord and the Blessed Virgin, a dedicated and talented teacher, and most likely yes, maybe a capacity for mystic insights ... because what he predicted was uncanny. There is lots and lots of video of his talks and sermons readily available on YouTube etc, I think all of his books are still in print. For DECADES he had first a radio show, before TV, and then a television program. My father was the opposite of a churchgoer or conventionally religious, was skeptical and critical of priests, but I never forgot that he said to me once when I was still a little boy "But that Bishop Fulton Sheen ...HE is a real man of God. All you have to do is look in his eyes." And that is true. He was and is a blessing to the world. May he rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon him!

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Holy cripes. The prescient we didn’t listen to

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Bishop Sheen was a very well known public figure in the 1950s and 1960s. This means he also was quite courageous to say publicly that being "broadminded" (to excess) can be a danger and not necessarily a virtue, right? Would be like warning of the dangers of being ... I don't know ... industrious or generous :) Problem with a mind that is wide open is that anything -- and anyone -- can enter it.

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I foresee many lamposts in their future. Rope too. Plenty of that.

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I feel very depressed ,that no one likes my posts ,even though they are pure wisdom .Well it's time to open another bottle .Prost .. Shocks I have to put the cork back in again ,because my wive said that is streng verboten .

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About 20 years ago, I was called a "racist" when I suggested that the US change granting citizenship to persons to born to LEGAL RESIDENTS of the US. Now? I hear more people railing against "anchor babies."

I continue to be baffled about WHY the EU even exists. How in the world the French wish to subjugate "French," the Germans diminish "German," etc.

What is wrong with pride of heritage and culture? (And there's a whole lot more about German culture and heritage than a crazed mustachioed lunatic in the 1930s.)

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The peoples of EUrope doesn't want the EU as it is today; we want it as it was sold to us generations ago - a mutual framwork for goods and trades to ease business all over the continent.

The idea of the EU as United States of Europe came later, and didn't gain prominence until the early 1990s after Germany's reunification.

And then there's the Kalergi plan for the extermination of the indigenous people of Europe and replacing us with a new mixed race without history or culture, fully beholden to The State.

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The E.U. illustrates the problem of giving multinational power over member nations to unelected individuals. Once they obtain power, they want more and more. Look at Von der Leyen and all of the trouble she makes without ever having been elected by the European people that she lords over. See also the extortion of Viktor Orban and Hungary by E.U. bureaucrats. The past abuse of Poland and other countries that the E.U. majority tyranny isolates. The farmers in Germany, France and the Netherlands are infuriated by E.U. taxation and regulation without representation. While Scholz, Macron and Rutte do nothing to advocate for them in the E.U.

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And Republicans in the US Congress are gutless.

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Speaker Mike Johnson is the rare exception. It took guts on the part of Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and others to remove Kevin McCarthy and replace him with Johnson. Johnson is the first Republican to refute Joe Biden's constant lies and ruses.

Biden: What’s been negotiated would – if passed into law – be the toughest and fairest set of reforms to secure the border we’ve ever had in our country.

It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.

If you’re serious about the border crisis, pass a bipartisan bill and I will sign it.

Johnson:

“President Biden falsely claimed yesterday he needs Congress to pass a new law to allow him to close the southern border, but he knows that is untrue,” the GOP speaker wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter. “As I explained to him in a letter late last year, and have specifically reiterated to him on multiple occasions since, he can and must take executive action immediately to reverse the catastrophe he has created.”

“President Biden can begin to secure the border by ending catch-and-release, ceasing exploitation of parole authority, reinstating the Remain in Mexico program, expanding the use of expedited removal authority, and renewing construction of the border wall.”

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Thank you for this post, dpci.

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My pleasure. Thank you Ms. Taylor.

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Mike Johnson seems like a decent person, perhaps too kind to be a politician.

In response to Mike Johnson becoming speaker, the lunatic corporate media criticized him for beginning each day in prayer.

I'm not a particularly religious person, but there isn't a thing wrong with starting the day in prayer.

The media disgust me.

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Christians are vilified by the left, Globalists, the Democrat party. It is insidious and weak.

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So, I really want to understand your whole EU thing. Damn ... if you just go to Brussels, isn't there like a bigass gigantic plug in a socket somewhere you can pull and all the gazillion euro stainless steel buildings you pay for would just deflate and blow away? Don't know what you do with that army of parasites ... but there must be some solution :)

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Rikard Brexit voters were treated like mud and got called stupid ignorant racist fascist because they didn’t like or want to be part of what the EU snowballed into.

People didn’t have an issue with the common market making it easier for people and businesses to trade with each other, people had an issue with the never ending nonsense rules and regulations imposed on Europeans from someone who gets paid a shitload of money and a big fat pension that they were never asked about.

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Then imagine what anti-EU people get called here in Sweden.

"Putinist" or "nazi" are among the milder ones.

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Racist bigots and gammons are the common term used for anyone who dared to be anti eu voting out or anti immigration.

I could never understand why people want taxing to the hilt to pay wages and pensions for self imposed bureaucrats that we managed without for decades before the cuckoos infiltrated our nests.

Interestingly people have had little issue with those coming from Hong Kong, these people had slotted straight in as they’re polite respectful hard working industrial people who didn’t come with their hands held out screaming discrimination with every breath.

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Two years ago, a friend & I were in Amsterdam and later in Cologne. We began to count the number of burkas we saw while we were sightseeing.

I was most outraged when we saw a burka-clad woman begging in front of the cathedral in Cologne. I couldn't help myself: I muttered, "Go panhandle outside a mosque."

I know: terribly un-Christian. Perhaps I should go to confession.

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I still to this day am dumbfounded regarding how the peoples of Europe could have voted to join the EU. I say this because for many, for me at least, any government is a necessary evil, right, supposedly the price we pay for not living in a Hobbesian nightmare come true. That's the standard argument anyway. But to actually choose to add to your existing national government ... which is bad enough, everywhere :) :) ... a constantly metastasizing supranational government ... just amazes me. Being stripped of national sovereignty by people, many unelected and with no particular affection for your people and culture, maybe even just scorn and prejudice ... so you all accepted that in return for being able to live and work in sexy Barcelona or Paris or Milan and not have to get visas !!! Wow! Buyer's remorse I hope. I'm oversimplifying, I know, obviously there must have been many other incentives, and I should not comment because I lack sufficient knowledge. I sympathize with you all, and would like to understand. Let's make it simple: How many would vote to leave the EU today?

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The Western countries of the EU joined when the organisation was the "European Economic Community", which was advertised as little more than a trading bloc. The bureaucratic superstate project didn't roll until the 1990s, during the pause before the Great eastward expansion.

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I remember when it all started. Seemed like a BAAAAD idea to me then. Relinquished power. Some of the first complaints were about being told what kind of toaster was permitted.

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Thank you Rocío. I did remember that it was simply the trading bloc at the outset, which sure, must have been mostly advantageous and not to be feared. But that's about all I knew. So how did it grow into this death star set on destroying sovereign nations :) ?

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You're welcome, Prodigal. Since that's a matter of interpretation, there will be various answers. Some highlight certain individuals, like the French Socialist Party politician Jacques Delors, who was appointed in 1985 as President of the European Commission. I wouldn't take this path, since the same outcomes were likely whether or not such individuals were placed in senior positions (at most, they were able to speed up a process already underway).

I would argue, rather, rather that the establishment of the European Commission bureaucracy evolved according to the "perverse incentives" of any bureaucracy. There is no such thing (by definition) as a "free-market" bureaucrat, so the vestigial free-market aspects of the EEC were progressively eroded by managerial behavior. Unlike elected national governments, which are notionally in charge of state bureaucracies, the European Commission was an unelected bureaucracy from bottom to top, so even the usual inadequate constraints were absent.

Hence the "nation-destroying death star" you mention.

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Thank you for this Rocío. I envy you for your understanding of the EU’s history, which you so eloquently conveyed. Despite being an expatriate here for more than 20 years, I sometimes still notice the stereotypical American in me, for whom what is worth knowing about the world is what happens south of Canada and north of Mexico :) I’ve made a lot of progress, I like to think, but some things are not easy to shed. Just today I was writing down notes for some content ideas and remembered that I arrived in Germany almost at exactly the same time as the Euro. And I was not here very long when Gerhard Schröder’s government pushed through their major reform of the welfare state. Both of these things were of course tremendously important to all Germans, but I was not really capable at the time of grasping that. I wish you all the best!

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I share your bafflement.

The only slightly plausible explanation I've ever heard is the Europe is petrified of Germany, given two world wars in less than 50 years. So the EU was a way to control that.

I remain unconvinced.

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I suggest checking out the 10 part doco series called ' Europa the last battle'. You may not like the answers you find though.

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Yeah, it's interesting, Rosie. I'm familiar with that fear of Germany thing, I presume as a result of the Germans' impulsive behavior in the 30s and 40s :) ? But like you, I am quite unconvinced, and in any case, Germany today would seem to be very pacified, as in prostrate and helpless :) I should go to confession for laughing. Although since Ukraine you hear German politicians like that towering figure Annalena Baerbock and influential whoevers talking all like passionate to go to war and whip Russia's ass. So we can write them off as severely mentally ill, looks like. I keep telling people ... I am glad I'm not young :) :)

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And when Mutti Merkel and her crew really played hardball with Greece back during that whole money crisis, seems like a long time ago, the Greek people made lots of placards and memes of Merkel in a Nazi uniform with a Hitler mustache. Here in Germany that's called the "Nazi Keule" (nazi club, as in a club to hit someone). A supremely effective weapon that will immediately silence and shut down oh so many Germans, who would feel inferior due to the Nazi era ... if they lived to be a thousand years old. It's very sad to see it. When is the last time you saw a movie a la Schindlers List only about the horrors of Red China's "Cultural Revolution" under Mao or Uncle Joe Stalin's crimes in Russia. There are NO such movies, plays etc to my knowledge. Pretty remarkable no? Because there have been thousands of movies about the evil Germans, and they keep coming, almost 100 years after the war. There are reasons for this. I am not fond of the German mentality, but I pity them for subjugating themselves before this propaganda campaign that has been running for 80 years. They will NEVER be absolved. There are very specific reasons for all this obviously, it is not happenstance.

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I credit Germany with teaching their children about the Nazis. Japan does not educate its children about the horrors of WWII.

But fear not! American children are learning that USA does NOTHING admirable, honorable or beneficial. American children are learning the entire history is racist, sexist, etc.

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There was and is no "Kalergi Plan" - it's a myth based on a few sentences of his, taken out of context. If you look at what he said and did, and the company he kept, you'll soon see that he would have been outraged by any plan for mass Muslim immigration into Europe.

Note that there's a Charlemagne Prize which he was awarded in the 50s, and the prize commitee later fell into the hands of WEF types, decades later, and after his death. A distorted version of this is part of the myth. Don't fall for it.

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Or: read the actual book he wrote.

Which I have done.

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Coudenhove-Kalergi published several books. Which did you read?

Let me help: was it the English translation of his 1925 book, "Practical Idealism"?

The same few sentences from this book are quoted again and again as support for the supposed "Kalergi Plan", so you presumably found from your reading of the rest of the book that nothing could have been further from his mind than the destruction of Europe by recreating it as some kind of Caliphate. Yes?

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The company he kept? You mean Jews? The same group that has overwhelmingly supported immigration to the West from non-Western nations?

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Ever thought of joining Hamas?

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Unbelievable...free preview for other countries?

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They're actually copying USA and Canuckistan

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Yes. I was astounded to learn we have Liberal MP’s with Canadian Citizenship plus 1 or 2 others! Insane.

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It is! And what about the Somalian CU Next Tuesday in the American gov?! Insane!!

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Can't remember her name

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That’s Omar in Minneapolis, MN. She divorced a husband, then married her brother to get his a green card, then divorced the brother to re-marry the husband, then divorced him and married a white guy she was paying 6 figures to with taxpayer money. She should have been deported for immigration crimes ages ago.

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Yes. For at least a couple of federal crimes, she should have been deported years ago.

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Sounds to me like she was born to be a politician. Will be interesting to see what her shelf life turns out to be.

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What a piece of work that thing is!

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Who are they?

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Wonder how many U.S. "officials", elected or otherwise, have dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship. Would bet quite a few.

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Fantastic. Turkey becomes Germany, or Germany becomes Turkey?

Remember when the Merkel woman had a sense of humour failure when president Recep Erdoğan flew into Koln to open a mosque without telling any of the German authorities? That's when the penny dropped - Turkey has a state within a state. The 3rd or 4th gen citizens have benefitted from the 'West' but think they can not only hate it but destroy it as well.

The warning is the same across the EU27, UK, USA and beyond: Citizens can settle, but they must abide by the rules and law of the host nation.

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West-Türkiye ? Deutchkiye ?

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more like the NeoGDR

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Please forgive my shallow American understanding of the rest of the world, but I mostly find myself bemused that a party described as “right-wing populist” is aspiring to "Diversity and Awakening".

I'm trying to imagine Donald Trump wearing rainbow socks and a rainbow MAGA hat.

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well, they are leftists in germany for the entitlements, and "right-wing populists" in Turkey for their own self-preservation.

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Yes. That was well understood by reading your piece.

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And that ain't happenin'...

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James Brown may have been the Hardest Working Man in Show Business, Eugyppius ... but that title definitely goes to you on planet Substack. Can't keep up with you!

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Now you have me picturing Eugyppius doing the James Brown cape routine.

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🤣 🤣 I was hoping someone would remember James Brown and say something about that unforgettable act with the cape! What a performer he was!

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I listen to Living in america often on my playlist lol

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Does this mean those young men can be conscripted to fight?

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if we ever re-institute conscription or military service, yes.

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They’ll be conscripted to fight... against the native population.

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Exactly. Like they're doing here in the US and Canuckistan

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