Since we’re talking about the origins and early history of the SARS-2 outbreak, it’s worth having a look at Jonathan Engler’s intriguing analysis of the all-cause mortality data out of northern Italy in the earliest days of the outbreak. He asks why,
‘Massive overuse of a treatment (ventilation) with no solid evidential basis, now known to be extremely harmful.’
Now known? At the time, I recall reading an article which reported critical care physicians and anæsthetists pointing out ventilation only functions to rest muscles of chest and diaphragm fatigued by rapid breathing in certain conditions or post-surgery, but is no use where lung tissue is damaged as in CoVid, as it cannot repair tissue damage, and since forced ventilation actually causes some lung tissue damage would exacerbate the situation and be contra-indicated for CoVid. It was also reported that the reason given for using ventilation on patients was to protect medical and nursing staff from virus exhaled to become airborne on the ward, so it was acknowledged it did not benefit patients and was used for staff protection. This was before the amazing new scientific discovery that SARS CoV 2, uniquely among respiratory virus, could only be spread in water droplets which fell to the ground in 1 metre or 2 metres or pick a distance.
Once again we have well known medical knowledge simply ignored as with every aspect of this sorry saga.
Denis Rancourt wrote about this back in June of 2020:
“All-cause mortality during COVID-19 - No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response”
“These “COVID peak” characteristics, and a review of the epidemiological history, and of relevant knowledge about viral respiratory diseases, lead me to postulate that the “COVID peak” results from an accelerated mass homicide of immune-vulnerable individuals, and individuals made more immune-vulnerable, by government and institutional actions, rather than being an epidemiological signature of a novel virus, irrespective of the degree to which the virus is novel from the perspective of viral speciation.”
> It’s worth asking whether the flu and other common respiratory viruses are actually protective against novel pathogens because of interference effects, and whether our panic measures didn’t, in most cases, simply reduce the competition SARS-2 faced from other viruses.
I don't know how it works in Germany but something that has bothered me for a long time
They say there's like 250k flu deaths in the US every year. But I've _never_ been tested for flu before, nor has anyone else that I know. There does not exist a flu testing infrastructure the way there is a covid testing infrastructure, at least not at scale and in regular use. So how do they know how many flu deaths there are?
Well, last I checked, the way the US CDC compiles data is that it's "Flu _and Unexplained Pneumonia_" deaths. The basic logic is: we know flu is widespread, we know flu causes pneumonia, testing is expensive, if someone dies of pneumonia and we don't have a better cause of death, we just put down "flu".
So when covid comes along, suddenly there's a new explanation for all of those previously-unexplained pneumonia deaths. Which means that deaths that would have happened in the absence of covid and been counted as flu, were instead counted as covid deaths.
The fact that we saw a complete and total collapse of flu mortality statistics but NOBODY has pointed out this obvious explanation, is damning.
Denis Rancourt has been saying for like a year now, if not longer, that mortality has been largely response rather than pathogen driven, based largely on time series data that do not resemble any previous pandemic outbreak. As he puts it, the state murdered large numbers of seniors, to create the impression of a pandemic, to scare the population into giving up more of our rights.
You don't think covid is repackaged flu? Since PCR testing could/can not distinguish between them? Has anyone found the actual covid virus anywhere? Asking for a friend.
A review of a New York hospital chain's records showed that 88% of patients put on ventilators died. How much excess death would remain if the ventilated were removed from the excess death statistics?
A lot of these were covid deaths though. We can tell that from the graph, where the mortality rates per million after the first wave are clearly lower than immediately before the first wave. This was covid bringing forward deaths of very elderly and infirm people by some few days to weeks in the "no covid" scenario.
Those provinces are all, except Bergamo, flat cisalpine Milan megacity hinterland. It is one big conurbation essentially. To tease out the effect of the Italian overreaction we could look at southern Swiss communes Chiasso, Mendrisio, and Lugano - this is also essentially Milan hinterland (lots of cross border workers, mostly from Switzerland to Italy).
I think the excess mortality we see now is more likely through healthcare deprivation the last 2.5 years. Diabetes deaths are up. Diabetes. Let that sink in. No one should be dying of diabetes in an advanced country.
Intubation, intubation, intubation led to so many of these deaths. I wish they could find the granular data of each region and their particular rate of intubation- I bet there is a direct correlation. And again- mass panic and stupidity. The basic assumption that intubation was the right thing to do- without intellectual discussion or open debate. This is where good ideas go to die- they created a petri dish of intubation, old people already immune compromised and lockdowns and panic. Recipe for disaster. And of course, the US followed right behind- Fauci was thrilled to do it. And he added Remdesivir into the deadly mix. There was one lone voice on youtube- that one doctor warning how intubation was killing patients- he was met with wild dissent. And then Youtube admitted they wanted to pull down his video because it didn't meet the CDC guidelines!! Such a video would be deemed disinformation today and not permitted at all. This is the destruction of civilization- when voices are shut off like that during a crisis. And still no one wants to confront that now- even afterwards.
Just a thought. I seem to remember that in many of those places in Northern Italy they have a "strong recent tradition" of getting flu shots, especially among the elderly, and I think that someone suggested that many people had just gotten them. So maybe their immune system was already weak for that reason then.
But didn't the same spike repeat in other high panic regions like New York City and London, Spanish cities and France too? Iatrogenic mortality seemed obvious to me by April 2020, but the public naively believes that hospitals and doctors only heal, never kill. But they routinely in fact kill 100,000s every year in the US, for example., mostly through medical error of various kinds.
The lockdowns and other "containment" measures--still being indulged in by China's leaders for purposes having nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with control--are themselves the cause of excess mortality. So why did the West model its response to Covid, on everything from masking and intubations to school closures and lockdowns, on Communist China? Western scientists trusted their "colleagues" in China, without realizing that their supposed colleagues had other agendas dictated by politics.
"It is a known fact that hospitals are important focus of infections. These infections are a serious and unresolved issue in normal times, but in the case of the COVID-19 disease, they have become the single most important problem."
More than two years after I wrote that post, I have to say that all its predictions have been confirmed.
It has been obvious from the beginning that covid has been a government/healthcare-made catastrophe.
Also, sadly, I have to confess that I do not think I was specially insightful. All you had to do was to disregard all the bullshit being propagated by the official sources of misinformation, look at the facts, and the reality of what was happening was patently clear.
Covid never was a substantial threat. New viruses appear periodically and they cause spikes of death until we incorporate them into our pool of pathogens. What failed in his case is that those in charge did almost the opposite of what they should have done.
This is one of the sadder substack posts I've ever read, and there has been a lot of doom and gloom out there. I had already come to terms with the fact that vaccines have made this much much worse, both in adverse events and also in pushing the virus to mutate into more evasive variants. But now, to consider that lockdowns were responsible for the initial increase in all cause death...just, wow. Humanity has really screwed this up. I just hope that this information is not buried. Having to listen to 'we did such a great job' for the next 20 years will add salt to the wound.
Is there a way to theoretically model what would happen if they did these measures for the flu? What the estimated mortality would be?
X number of people die from the flu, and X number of people catch the flu in a given year. What would be the estimated fatality rate if they force tested everyone with the flu, denied them flu medicines and stuck them on ventilators instead?
I have a sneaking suspicion it would look very similar to what we’re seeing now.
They even told people not to take OTC fever reducers….
Engler should have a look at the CDC data on excess deaths in the US. They were virtually non-existent until April of 2020, spiked briefly for a couple of months in May and June, and then returned to normal, before really taking off in December once the vaccine was introduced. I'm not a statistician, but I bet he could go nuts analyzing it.
‘Massive overuse of a treatment (ventilation) with no solid evidential basis, now known to be extremely harmful.’
Now known? At the time, I recall reading an article which reported critical care physicians and anæsthetists pointing out ventilation only functions to rest muscles of chest and diaphragm fatigued by rapid breathing in certain conditions or post-surgery, but is no use where lung tissue is damaged as in CoVid, as it cannot repair tissue damage, and since forced ventilation actually causes some lung tissue damage would exacerbate the situation and be contra-indicated for CoVid. It was also reported that the reason given for using ventilation on patients was to protect medical and nursing staff from virus exhaled to become airborne on the ward, so it was acknowledged it did not benefit patients and was used for staff protection. This was before the amazing new scientific discovery that SARS CoV 2, uniquely among respiratory virus, could only be spread in water droplets which fell to the ground in 1 metre or 2 metres or pick a distance.
Once again we have well known medical knowledge simply ignored as with every aspect of this sorry saga.
Denis Rancourt wrote about this back in June of 2020:
“All-cause mortality during COVID-19 - No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response”
“These “COVID peak” characteristics, and a review of the epidemiological history, and of relevant knowledge about viral respiratory diseases, lead me to postulate that the “COVID peak” results from an accelerated mass homicide of immune-vulnerable individuals, and individuals made more immune-vulnerable, by government and institutional actions, rather than being an epidemiological signature of a novel virus, irrespective of the degree to which the virus is novel from the perspective of viral speciation.”
https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=9&name=2020_06_02_all_cause_mortality_during_covid_19_no_plague_and_a_likely_signature_of_mass_homicide_by_government_response
> It’s worth asking whether the flu and other common respiratory viruses are actually protective against novel pathogens because of interference effects, and whether our panic measures didn’t, in most cases, simply reduce the competition SARS-2 faced from other viruses.
I don't know how it works in Germany but something that has bothered me for a long time
They say there's like 250k flu deaths in the US every year. But I've _never_ been tested for flu before, nor has anyone else that I know. There does not exist a flu testing infrastructure the way there is a covid testing infrastructure, at least not at scale and in regular use. So how do they know how many flu deaths there are?
Well, last I checked, the way the US CDC compiles data is that it's "Flu _and Unexplained Pneumonia_" deaths. The basic logic is: we know flu is widespread, we know flu causes pneumonia, testing is expensive, if someone dies of pneumonia and we don't have a better cause of death, we just put down "flu".
So when covid comes along, suddenly there's a new explanation for all of those previously-unexplained pneumonia deaths. Which means that deaths that would have happened in the absence of covid and been counted as flu, were instead counted as covid deaths.
The fact that we saw a complete and total collapse of flu mortality statistics but NOBODY has pointed out this obvious explanation, is damning.
Denis Rancourt has been saying for like a year now, if not longer, that mortality has been largely response rather than pathogen driven, based largely on time series data that do not resemble any previous pandemic outbreak. As he puts it, the state murdered large numbers of seniors, to create the impression of a pandemic, to scare the population into giving up more of our rights.
You don't think covid is repackaged flu? Since PCR testing could/can not distinguish between them? Has anyone found the actual covid virus anywhere? Asking for a friend.
A review of a New York hospital chain's records showed that 88% of patients put on ventilators died. How much excess death would remain if the ventilated were removed from the excess death statistics?
A lot of these were covid deaths though. We can tell that from the graph, where the mortality rates per million after the first wave are clearly lower than immediately before the first wave. This was covid bringing forward deaths of very elderly and infirm people by some few days to weeks in the "no covid" scenario.
Those provinces are all, except Bergamo, flat cisalpine Milan megacity hinterland. It is one big conurbation essentially. To tease out the effect of the Italian overreaction we could look at southern Swiss communes Chiasso, Mendrisio, and Lugano - this is also essentially Milan hinterland (lots of cross border workers, mostly from Switzerland to Italy).
I think the excess mortality we see now is more likely through healthcare deprivation the last 2.5 years. Diabetes deaths are up. Diabetes. Let that sink in. No one should be dying of diabetes in an advanced country.
Intubation, intubation, intubation led to so many of these deaths. I wish they could find the granular data of each region and their particular rate of intubation- I bet there is a direct correlation. And again- mass panic and stupidity. The basic assumption that intubation was the right thing to do- without intellectual discussion or open debate. This is where good ideas go to die- they created a petri dish of intubation, old people already immune compromised and lockdowns and panic. Recipe for disaster. And of course, the US followed right behind- Fauci was thrilled to do it. And he added Remdesivir into the deadly mix. There was one lone voice on youtube- that one doctor warning how intubation was killing patients- he was met with wild dissent. And then Youtube admitted they wanted to pull down his video because it didn't meet the CDC guidelines!! Such a video would be deemed disinformation today and not permitted at all. This is the destruction of civilization- when voices are shut off like that during a crisis. And still no one wants to confront that now- even afterwards.
Just a thought. I seem to remember that in many of those places in Northern Italy they have a "strong recent tradition" of getting flu shots, especially among the elderly, and I think that someone suggested that many people had just gotten them. So maybe their immune system was already weak for that reason then.
But didn't the same spike repeat in other high panic regions like New York City and London, Spanish cities and France too? Iatrogenic mortality seemed obvious to me by April 2020, but the public naively believes that hospitals and doctors only heal, never kill. But they routinely in fact kill 100,000s every year in the US, for example., mostly through medical error of various kinds.
see: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/
The lockdowns and other "containment" measures--still being indulged in by China's leaders for purposes having nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with control--are themselves the cause of excess mortality. So why did the West model its response to Covid, on everything from masking and intubations to school closures and lockdowns, on Communist China? Western scientists trusted their "colleagues" in China, without realizing that their supposed colleagues had other agendas dictated by politics.
Criminal and intentional. But by whom? Humanity does not deserve this evil.
This is what I wrote in May 2020:
"It is a known fact that hospitals are important focus of infections. These infections are a serious and unresolved issue in normal times, but in the case of the COVID-19 disease, they have become the single most important problem."
https://stupidecon.com/posts/mismanagement-i-nosocomial-infections/
More than two years after I wrote that post, I have to say that all its predictions have been confirmed.
It has been obvious from the beginning that covid has been a government/healthcare-made catastrophe.
Also, sadly, I have to confess that I do not think I was specially insightful. All you had to do was to disregard all the bullshit being propagated by the official sources of misinformation, look at the facts, and the reality of what was happening was patently clear.
Covid never was a substantial threat. New viruses appear periodically and they cause spikes of death until we incorporate them into our pool of pathogens. What failed in his case is that those in charge did almost the opposite of what they should have done.
This is one of the sadder substack posts I've ever read, and there has been a lot of doom and gloom out there. I had already come to terms with the fact that vaccines have made this much much worse, both in adverse events and also in pushing the virus to mutate into more evasive variants. But now, to consider that lockdowns were responsible for the initial increase in all cause death...just, wow. Humanity has really screwed this up. I just hope that this information is not buried. Having to listen to 'we did such a great job' for the next 20 years will add salt to the wound.
Is there a way to theoretically model what would happen if they did these measures for the flu? What the estimated mortality would be?
X number of people die from the flu, and X number of people catch the flu in a given year. What would be the estimated fatality rate if they force tested everyone with the flu, denied them flu medicines and stuck them on ventilators instead?
I have a sneaking suspicion it would look very similar to what we’re seeing now.
They even told people not to take OTC fever reducers….
Engler should have a look at the CDC data on excess deaths in the US. They were virtually non-existent until April of 2020, spiked briefly for a couple of months in May and June, and then returned to normal, before really taking off in December once the vaccine was introduced. I'm not a statistician, but I bet he could go nuts analyzing it.