So, somebody conducted a serology survey of German youth, and found that 95% of have SARS-2 antibodies. Mysteriously, results like this make the Corona astrologers very, very nervous. Thus insufferable Drosten student Isabella Eckerle felt compelled to descend from the virological realm and declare that the
Hilarious, were it not so clear a sign of how badly Covid has been mishandled. Never mind all the hospital admissions here, there and everywhere being the multiply vaxxed, with such as us hale and hearty.
My wife and I have a toast to such, we click our glasses of red wine, and say
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If we go by his “logic” then what is the purpose of the vaccines? Are they not being touted as “proving immunity “ to “protect” society? If the new ideology is antibodies no longer provide immunity then this negates the entire idea of vaccination.
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"{ a positive antibody test is no proof that you’re protected against infection. Even deadly outcomes are still possible." How in good conscience can they expect anyone to ever take a vaccine again? This has me to the point of never believing a word from a politician, doctor or scientist ever again.
I enjoy seeing references to antibody counts not being a valid reference for immunity, because antibody counts are the sole justification given by the FDA for the last several rounds of EUA approvals. if I remember correctly, they also used that to justify the non-EUA approval of Pfizer's product that they refuse to release for use in the US.
The vaccinators can’t have it both ways. One one hand they say, following the example of Pfizer and Moderna, that the presence of antibodies, IS the end point of clinical trials for the jabs, and thus proves the jab is effective -because it produces antibodies! (Never mind that the jab doesn’t stop COVID infection or death - “It produces Antibodies!”) On the other hand, they say that 95% of the population having antibodies means nothing. “You must take more jabs to get more of the antibodies you already have! Because... science!”
They are so secure in the values of the vaccine they can't even imagine when they backdoor into arguments against them. My favorite moment of this was the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.
The vaccine saga has been a real life version of that midwit meme with the bell curve. You've got simple folks saying things like "I don't know, these things are new and they don't seem to work like we was told;" reddit Americans saying "if you closely examine the hospital data and ignore confounding variables like seasonality then the efficacy of the vexx is crystal clear--also, you're a bigot;" and on the right side you'd have eugyppius saying the same thing that my roofer uncle said from the jump.
I choose to believe the chuds, thank you very much.
Most of the rabble will still get the wrong (intended) idea, because they'll read his implied meaning that in this case "antibodies" refers only to antibodies from infection, not vaccination. Not all antibodies are equal!
American public health authorities, even Fauci, have publicly acknowledged for many months that antibody titers are not a predictor of infection or severe outcome risks. Yet many, if not most, of the pharmaceutical tests upon which the EUA was based relied on the surrogate endpoint of antibodies. That hasn't stopped them.
They cannot keep a lid on this (the failure of the vaccine) forever.
Hilarious, were it not so clear a sign of how badly Covid has been mishandled. Never mind all the hospital admissions here, there and everywhere being the multiply vaxxed, with such as us hale and hearty.
My wife and I have a toast to such, we click our glasses of red wine, and say
"Fuck 'em all"
It's funny that all roads lead to more vax, which never worked to begin with.
Maybe time to shut down the health ministries?
If we go by his “logic” then what is the purpose of the vaccines? Are they not being touted as “proving immunity “ to “protect” society? If the new ideology is antibodies no longer provide immunity then this negates the entire idea of vaccination.
Maybe having no gas or heat this winter will knock some sense back into them.
"{ a positive antibody test is no proof that you’re protected against infection. Even deadly outcomes are still possible." How in good conscience can they expect anyone to ever take a vaccine again? This has me to the point of never believing a word from a politician, doctor or scientist ever again.
I enjoy seeing references to antibody counts not being a valid reference for immunity, because antibody counts are the sole justification given by the FDA for the last several rounds of EUA approvals. if I remember correctly, they also used that to justify the non-EUA approval of Pfizer's product that they refuse to release for use in the US.
Ha ha, you thought “health ministers” cared about your health.
The vaccinators can’t have it both ways. One one hand they say, following the example of Pfizer and Moderna, that the presence of antibodies, IS the end point of clinical trials for the jabs, and thus proves the jab is effective -because it produces antibodies! (Never mind that the jab doesn’t stop COVID infection or death - “It produces Antibodies!”) On the other hand, they say that 95% of the population having antibodies means nothing. “You must take more jabs to get more of the antibodies you already have! Because... science!”
They are so secure in the values of the vaccine they can't even imagine when they backdoor into arguments against them. My favorite moment of this was the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.
So, somebody conducted a serology survey of German youth, and found that 95% of have SARS-2 antibodies.
Long past time to declare victory and leave.
A technocrat should be technically competent, or is just an ideocrat, which is perilously close to idiotcrat.
The vaccine saga has been a real life version of that midwit meme with the bell curve. You've got simple folks saying things like "I don't know, these things are new and they don't seem to work like we was told;" reddit Americans saying "if you closely examine the hospital data and ignore confounding variables like seasonality then the efficacy of the vexx is crystal clear--also, you're a bigot;" and on the right side you'd have eugyppius saying the same thing that my roofer uncle said from the jump.
I choose to believe the chuds, thank you very much.
So let me get this straight...
Testing people for anti-bodies doesn't mean you are protected against infection.
Testing Pfizer's vaccine for the production of anti-bodies means it works and should receive regulatory approval.
$CiEnCe is so confusing...
Most of the rabble will still get the wrong (intended) idea, because they'll read his implied meaning that in this case "antibodies" refers only to antibodies from infection, not vaccination. Not all antibodies are equal!
American public health authorities, even Fauci, have publicly acknowledged for many months that antibody titers are not a predictor of infection or severe outcome risks. Yet many, if not most, of the pharmaceutical tests upon which the EUA was based relied on the surrogate endpoint of antibodies. That hasn't stopped them.