Wanna bet? These cruel and insane medical terrorists have been vaccinating people for 70 years and have never proven that ANY vaccine works better than having no vaccines. They have 80% of the population convinced that you will not survive into old age unless you are injected into eternity.
Funny because most of the people 80+ have had little or no vaccinations until recently. My parents had polio and pox vaccines, but I don't think in syringes. Both are in their 80s. I am 65 and had polio I think, and got so sick I had to spend the night in the hospital. I was very small and don't remember it. In school we had a vaccine on a sugar cube, I think measles, maybe, but by the time I was in first grade I had had all sicknesses. Was born at 7 months and still alive ! without jabs ! Until I came to the States and had to get 7 at once. First time refused, had to get 4 more. That will do.
I'm seventy-one. Has the usual early 1960's childhood vaccines. All done in school. One odd one: Ive got six parallel scratch scars on my lower back--Three on each side; stacked on top of each other. TB? No idea. I still remember lifting my shirt, and the nurse quickly doing the six scratches. Bizarre. My doctor just scratches hs head. (No pun intended.) In adulthood; the usual tetanus shots. I had no control as a kid--But! Had I known then....What I now know--I would not have taken ANY shots. I wouldn't have taken Hep B (went to Asia for ten years.) Maybe that was a reasonable precaution? Nor the annual "flu" shot. And--And; an expensive "shingles" shot. Two hundred bucks. In flu-like pain for two days. Two doses; weeks apart. Same flu-like pain the second dose. Too late now. It's done. As I said; if I had known then....Wow. What a scam. Thankfully; I'm uninjected w/ the mRNA toxin.
The success of vaccination in developed Countries should be considered together with improvements in personal hygiene, sanitation, clean water, better nutrition, higher standards of living and better housing.
No coincidence that many diseases are rife in those Countries without these improvements. Instead of relying on vaccination programmes, these Countries should be helped to develop. We do that by helping them get richer by buying what they produce rather than using tariff and non-tariff barriers to keep their goods out, or depriving them of access to cheap abundant energy to please the Climate Change lunatics.
It's a racket, draining developing countries of money, with the developed countries being exploited big time by putting more and more taxpayers' money into dodgy but lucrative 'vaccines' and repeat vaccinations on their schedules.
I don't know if these scrattches are TB tests. We had them every year in school on our forearm, but that was not vaccination, just a test to see if you were TB free. If the scratches turned red and swollen you had to go have an Xray. You were lucky with the shingles shots ! A friend got shingles from them. I also heard that they are really painful. I know 5 people who had shingles. The one with the vaccination is in poor health for many years and was sick of it. One person had it for months. The other 3 had it for about 3 or 4 weeks and said it stings and itches. Not sure if it is worth the shot! (did you notice that when children none of the vaccines came as syringes?)
Also 71, had the smallpox vaccine (live virus) at birth, diphtheria and tetanus toxoids (inactivated bacterial protein toxin) in infancy, polio at the start of school with the Salk (inactivated virus), then at the end of primary school with the Sabin (live virus on a sugar cube), yellow fever (live virus) before traveling across Africa at age ten.
The distinction between live virus vaccines and non-live (inactivated or component) vaccines is crucial. The live virus vaccines mimic natural infection and are broadly protective (though at a cost of occasional severe infection by the vaccine), the non-live vaccines give short-lived protection against the target disease only, and increased vulnerability to non-target diseases. Very illuminating work done in West Africa contrasting effects on mortality following measles (live) or DTP (non-live) vaccination summarised in a paper by Aaby (DOI: 10.3389/fpubh.2018.00079).
The mRNA so-called "vaccines" are the epitome of a non-live, single antigen immune disruptor.
Sugar cube I remember well. For Polio then all the dots in my outer upper thigh for smallpox. I had to wear a dress with tights and black patin shoes 3 years old my parents held both my hands , remember it well in our small town… the line was around the block !! Trust in government is long gone now.
I’m 69. I had polio vaccine as a baby, then was naturally vaccination against, measles, mumps, chickenpox by getting the diseases together with most of the other kids at school. Vaccination for these were not available at that time.
I had TB vax when I was 14, and Smallpox vax in my 30s after possible contact with a case recently returned from abroad.
‘Flu vaccines are not effective but are likeky to cause Cold and/or ‘flu immediately afterwards. I don’t see the point of vaccine induced disease when the likelihood of getting it is so small. Hence I am an mRNA-free zone, and have not had CoVid.
I wonder if any other country used to do that, oblige people to get so many jabs at once. I don't think Belgium ever did that. Only polio as far as I know. And now of course most want these covid useless jabs.
yes plenty of people are starting to ask those questions. Numerous people have read the books available everywhere, from Susan Humphries and others, from Dr Mullins about how the medical establishment in the US came to be. Many have lost complete trust in the letter-institutions, FBI, CIA, NIH, FDA, and rightfully so. Also the foundations of all sorts. Who can we trust anymore?
The new wonders are endless now . I'M 86 and can't remember ever getting a shot . Could be I got some when I was a kid and can't remember . As an adult I never payed any attention to shots ,since health doe's not come from the point of a needle ,or the point of a gun .
They can keep the lid on their failures only as long as we permit it. The vax wasn't their worst error. That award probably goes to the prohibitions of cheap, effective therapies. Those prohibitions were necessary for the legal basis of the emergency authorizations that allowed the defective vax to be distributed without testing. My vote for the worst medical error is the lack of guidance on maintaining immune health, which caused so many to be vulnerable to a routine virus in the first place.
The bad diet advice by the interventionist State contributed a lot. I'm convinced that the high carb diets and processed grain oils have led to a lot of disease.
People being brainwashed into thinking the regulators are out there like superheroes protecting them from anything unhealthy or unsafe is a problem.
It's driven by lobbying both clinicians and government regulators by food and pharma industries. That corruption made it an easy step to suppress cheap, effective covid therapies. Those who allow themselves to be so easily manipulated will soon find themselves subjected to much worse. Some have incorrectly claimed the RNA vax are "gene therapy" but it's an easy step to real genetic manipulation to create elites and rid society of inferiors. And the willing victims will be happy.
That lobbying in turn only can exist when we tolerate a government that intervenes in all our activities. You should check your assumption that such an interventionist state is necessary and good.
They are constantly monitoring how much BS we are willing to accept. Then they calibrate their propaganda for the greatest effect. They have their overarching goals and they are not deviating from those, while they seem to be flexible on tactical level. So far, they have been amazingly successful - hiding their murderous agenda in plain sight.
Hilarious, were it not so clear a sign of how badly Covid has been mishandled. Never mind all the hospital admissions here, there and everywhere being the multiply vaxxed, with such as us hale and hearty.
My wife and I have a toast to such, we click our glasses of red wine, and say
Merkel went a little crazy towards the end. Seemed to be fearing loss of Empire.
Does Van Den Bossche sound like he's Belgian to you? Just wondering here, figured you'd know. I'm entertaining the idea that his accent is not Flemish.
Dr Vandenbossche is indeed Belgian and Flemish. He teaches at the university of Ghent, and so does Dr Mattias Desmet. You can check by typing RU Gent and their names.
No. The West seems to have a collective death wish. True. But were I a German, I'd point the finger at Merkel. Everything she did is a screw up. Immigrants. Renewables. EU. ECB. Utter disaster.
OHMYGOSH! .... I have laughed hard at that one, because, and please forgive my language, but a constant and repeated line in my house is "fuck these people so much!" HAHAHAHAHA
It's literally a cycle of vax harder, mask harder. Both fail, then they flog the same dead horse all over again, vax harder and mask harder. It leads to same result- both fail. These people are too stupid, too arrogant and too stubborn to admit it, it boggles the mind.
They're "Doubling Down" to use poker parlance. Alas for them they have a losing hand and G-d is forcing everyone to reveal their hands now. Stay Tuned...
P.S. A great quote from a real sage I first read in 2003 is "It doesn't matter what you think, we will all know the truth and what is correct in the end". That "end" is nigh...
Joe--"The Sickness and Death Ministry." So true. These devils reveal their true intent: As in the US; certain Canadian hospitals have refused life saving transplants to at least one poor soul--Who will not take the mRNA shot(s). "No jab? No transplant for you. Too bad; so sad." The Hippocratic Oath has become a relic of the past. "First; do no harm." The "healers" are harming people; on so many levels. Cruel doctors denying life saving surgery--Because someone refuses to take a proven worthless/harmful/deadly/experimental gene "therapy." Treatment denied. Not only by the complicit; self-interest; me-first surgeons--But also by the MD's manipulated by the higher-ups who pull all the strings. It appears that we are nearing the end of this age. As Jesus warned: "And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold" (Matthew 24:12.) Maranatha.
If we go by his “logic” then what is the purpose of the vaccines? Are they not being touted as “proving immunity “ to “protect” society? If the new ideology is antibodies no longer provide immunity then this negates the entire idea of vaccination.
The logic is that you're supposed to do as you're told, you pleb! The content of the order is largely irrelevant. Obedience is the point. I mean, just imagine if plebs started thinking for themselves. The horror!
Depressingly enough, you may be right. Even more depressingly, you might be wrong. They might use the energy crisis as an excuse to deal with "internal enemies." It could get very bad, very quickly. Didn't you have a post about people not being allowed into homeless shelters if they're uninjected? Imagine what they could come up with now. "No heating for you if you don't obey!"
Like I often said ,the worst is still coming . Thy may allow as to buy without the food passport ,but only if we buy grass hoppers and lizards . In Canada it will be snow worms .
Our ''health '' carers will provide us with extra face pouches to keep us warm .So far they did not get to our rear ends yet , I have already goose pumps on it .
"{ a positive antibody test is no proof that you’re protected against infection. Even deadly outcomes are still possible." How in good conscience can they expect anyone to ever take a vaccine again? This has me to the point of never believing a word from a politician, doctor or scientist ever again.
yes. and I'm pretty sure the ukhsa vacc surveillance reports showed population antibodies north of 95% at least a year ago. ( later it was shown to be spike rather than nucleocapsid prevalence though, ie that canalisation would be CAUSED by the vacc). At that point, week 42 of 2021 they weren't sure if people's broad nucleocapsid response would ever come back up.
No mention of t cells of course.
The antibodies in 95- 98% of the population did nothing to change the conversation here.
They flipped the script on HIV as well. First it meant you were protected, then it meant you were infected. It depends on what they are pushing at the time, tests or quackcines.
I enjoy seeing references to antibody counts not being a valid reference for immunity, because antibody counts are the sole justification given by the FDA for the last several rounds of EUA approvals. if I remember correctly, they also used that to justify the non-EUA approval of Pfizer's product that they refuse to release for use in the US.
The vaccinators can’t have it both ways. One one hand they say, following the example of Pfizer and Moderna, that the presence of antibodies, IS the end point of clinical trials for the jabs, and thus proves the jab is effective -because it produces antibodies! (Never mind that the jab doesn’t stop COVID infection or death - “It produces Antibodies!”) On the other hand, they say that 95% of the population having antibodies means nothing. “You must take more jabs to get more of the antibodies you already have! Because... science!”
This goes back to the days of HIV and AIDS hysteria, one day antibodies means protection, the next it is infection. Maybe antibodies are not what we are told they are.
They are so secure in the values of the vaccine they can't even imagine when they backdoor into arguments against them. My favorite moment of this was the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.
That's funny. I got BMAB when I contracted the virus. Worked fine. All this time wasted on Vaccines when they really need to be producing therapeutics. Before anyone assumes anything I am 74 YO and in reasonable health.
Ken you are so lucky ,it could have been much worse ,like getting the flu,cold ,runny nose and cough . Those ailments only existed in the past from the beginning of human life on earth . In two and a half years those viruses called it quits ,the greatest miracle of all time .
So why did you contact the yruss ,was it with your smart phone .I'm 86 and don't understand why the yruss missed me for so long and not making contact . It could be the yruss called the wrong number ?
'the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.' Seeing how silly that is would require the connection of 2 dots. I think that's above their pay grade.
The vaccine saga has been a real life version of that midwit meme with the bell curve. You've got simple folks saying things like "I don't know, these things are new and they don't seem to work like we was told;" reddit Americans saying "if you closely examine the hospital data and ignore confounding variables like seasonality then the efficacy of the vexx is crystal clear--also, you're a bigot;" and on the right side you'd have eugyppius saying the same thing that my roofer uncle said from the jump.
I choose to believe the chuds, thank you very much.
Most of the rabble will still get the wrong (intended) idea, because they'll read his implied meaning that in this case "antibodies" refers only to antibodies from infection, not vaccination. Not all antibodies are equal!
American public health authorities, even Fauci, have publicly acknowledged for many months that antibody titers are not a predictor of infection or severe outcome risks. Yet many, if not most, of the pharmaceutical tests upon which the EUA was based relied on the surrogate endpoint of antibodies. That hasn't stopped them.
Being repeatedly shown to be wrong hasn’t stopped them. It’s almost as if reality doesn’t matter, as long as you click your heels together firmly to summon the monster fear
They cannot keep a lid on this (the failure of the vaccine) forever.
Wanna bet? These cruel and insane medical terrorists have been vaccinating people for 70 years and have never proven that ANY vaccine works better than having no vaccines. They have 80% of the population convinced that you will not survive into old age unless you are injected into eternity.
Funny because most of the people 80+ have had little or no vaccinations until recently. My parents had polio and pox vaccines, but I don't think in syringes. Both are in their 80s. I am 65 and had polio I think, and got so sick I had to spend the night in the hospital. I was very small and don't remember it. In school we had a vaccine on a sugar cube, I think measles, maybe, but by the time I was in first grade I had had all sicknesses. Was born at 7 months and still alive ! without jabs ! Until I came to the States and had to get 7 at once. First time refused, had to get 4 more. That will do.
I'm seventy-one. Has the usual early 1960's childhood vaccines. All done in school. One odd one: Ive got six parallel scratch scars on my lower back--Three on each side; stacked on top of each other. TB? No idea. I still remember lifting my shirt, and the nurse quickly doing the six scratches. Bizarre. My doctor just scratches hs head. (No pun intended.) In adulthood; the usual tetanus shots. I had no control as a kid--But! Had I known then....What I now know--I would not have taken ANY shots. I wouldn't have taken Hep B (went to Asia for ten years.) Maybe that was a reasonable precaution? Nor the annual "flu" shot. And--And; an expensive "shingles" shot. Two hundred bucks. In flu-like pain for two days. Two doses; weeks apart. Same flu-like pain the second dose. Too late now. It's done. As I said; if I had known then....Wow. What a scam. Thankfully; I'm uninjected w/ the mRNA toxin.
As you say Brian, wow what a scam…
The entire jab schedule must be investigated, because international vaccination policy is absolutely rotten with conflicts of interest.
The success of vaccination in developed Countries should be considered together with improvements in personal hygiene, sanitation, clean water, better nutrition, higher standards of living and better housing.
No coincidence that many diseases are rife in those Countries without these improvements. Instead of relying on vaccination programmes, these Countries should be helped to develop. We do that by helping them get richer by buying what they produce rather than using tariff and non-tariff barriers to keep their goods out, or depriving them of access to cheap abundant energy to please the Climate Change lunatics.
Sounds good to me John...but tell it to Bill Gates!
Developing countries are being exploited with all these vaccines by the Gavi Alliance.
Consider for example: "All countries pay a share of the cost of their Gavi-supported vaccines. As a country’s income grows, its co-financing payments gradually increase to cover the full cost of vaccines." https://www.gavi.org/our-alliance/operating-model/gavis-business-model
It's a racket, draining developing countries of money, with the developed countries being exploited big time by putting more and more taxpayers' money into dodgy but lucrative 'vaccines' and repeat vaccinations on their schedules.
Certainly there are egregious conflicts of interest. As long as pharma can make a buck, those conflicts will continue.
The whole Pharmaceutical industry is unsustainable to any society.
The grotesque medical industrial complex is making people sick with over-medication, and now the ultimate insult with coercive/mandated jabs.
It’s destroying our society and gutting us economically…
It’s the very antithesis of health!
I don't know if these scrattches are TB tests. We had them every year in school on our forearm, but that was not vaccination, just a test to see if you were TB free. If the scratches turned red and swollen you had to go have an Xray. You were lucky with the shingles shots ! A friend got shingles from them. I also heard that they are really painful. I know 5 people who had shingles. The one with the vaccination is in poor health for many years and was sick of it. One person had it for months. The other 3 had it for about 3 or 4 weeks and said it stings and itches. Not sure if it is worth the shot! (did you notice that when children none of the vaccines came as syringes?)
Also 71, had the smallpox vaccine (live virus) at birth, diphtheria and tetanus toxoids (inactivated bacterial protein toxin) in infancy, polio at the start of school with the Salk (inactivated virus), then at the end of primary school with the Sabin (live virus on a sugar cube), yellow fever (live virus) before traveling across Africa at age ten.
The distinction between live virus vaccines and non-live (inactivated or component) vaccines is crucial. The live virus vaccines mimic natural infection and are broadly protective (though at a cost of occasional severe infection by the vaccine), the non-live vaccines give short-lived protection against the target disease only, and increased vulnerability to non-target diseases. Very illuminating work done in West Africa contrasting effects on mortality following measles (live) or DTP (non-live) vaccination summarised in a paper by Aaby (DOI: 10.3389/fpubh.2018.00079).
The mRNA so-called "vaccines" are the epitome of a non-live, single antigen immune disruptor.
Sugar cube I remember well. For Polio then all the dots in my outer upper thigh for smallpox. I had to wear a dress with tights and black patin shoes 3 years old my parents held both my hands , remember it well in our small town… the line was around the block !! Trust in government is long gone now.
not enough of it
I’m 69. I had polio vaccine as a baby, then was naturally vaccination against, measles, mumps, chickenpox by getting the diseases together with most of the other kids at school. Vaccination for these were not available at that time.
I had TB vax when I was 14, and Smallpox vax in my 30s after possible contact with a case recently returned from abroad.
‘Flu vaccines are not effective but are likeky to cause Cold and/or ‘flu immediately afterwards. I don’t see the point of vaccine induced disease when the likelihood of getting it is so small. Hence I am an mRNA-free zone, and have not had CoVid.
Wow, yeah, Ingrid. We were the same when we came to the US. All of those required vaccines.
I wonder if any other country used to do that, oblige people to get so many jabs at once. I don't think Belgium ever did that. Only polio as far as I know. And now of course most want these covid useless jabs.
But the Covid fiasco is now raising the possibility that the brainwashed masses might start asking questions about the other ‘vaccines’…
Flu jabs are the obvious first target, but there are plenty of others, e.g. the dodgy HPV jabs.
yes plenty of people are starting to ask those questions. Numerous people have read the books available everywhere, from Susan Humphries and others, from Dr Mullins about how the medical establishment in the US came to be. Many have lost complete trust in the letter-institutions, FBI, CIA, NIH, FDA, and rightfully so. Also the foundations of all sorts. Who can we trust anymore?
Yes indeed Ingrid, this is the question - who can we trust any more?
The reputation of the science and medical establishment is well and truly trashed.
As for politicians and the mainstream/corporate media…what a bunch of traitors…
You would think. But man are they pushing. Makes you wonder.
The new wonders are endless now . I'M 86 and can't remember ever getting a shot . Could be I got some when I was a kid and can't remember . As an adult I never payed any attention to shots ,since health doe's not come from the point of a needle ,or the point of a gun .
They can keep the lid on their failures only as long as we permit it. The vax wasn't their worst error. That award probably goes to the prohibitions of cheap, effective therapies. Those prohibitions were necessary for the legal basis of the emergency authorizations that allowed the defective vax to be distributed without testing. My vote for the worst medical error is the lack of guidance on maintaining immune health, which caused so many to be vulnerable to a routine virus in the first place.
The bad diet advice by the interventionist State contributed a lot. I'm convinced that the high carb diets and processed grain oils have led to a lot of disease.
People being brainwashed into thinking the regulators are out there like superheroes protecting them from anything unhealthy or unsafe is a problem.
It's driven by lobbying both clinicians and government regulators by food and pharma industries. That corruption made it an easy step to suppress cheap, effective covid therapies. Those who allow themselves to be so easily manipulated will soon find themselves subjected to much worse. Some have incorrectly claimed the RNA vax are "gene therapy" but it's an easy step to real genetic manipulation to create elites and rid society of inferiors. And the willing victims will be happy.
That lobbying in turn only can exist when we tolerate a government that intervenes in all our activities. You should check your assumption that such an interventionist state is necessary and good.
Never, ever, bet against the ability of the bureaucracy to be full of shit into perpetuity
They are constantly monitoring how much BS we are willing to accept. Then they calibrate their propaganda for the greatest effect. They have their overarching goals and they are not deviating from those, while they seem to be flexible on tactical level. So far, they have been amazingly successful - hiding their murderous agenda in plain sight.
The problem is the dumber we get the greater their effect.
They are counting on our predictability.
They will surely try.
Hilarious, were it not so clear a sign of how badly Covid has been mishandled. Never mind all the hospital admissions here, there and everywhere being the multiply vaxxed, with such as us hale and hearty.
My wife and I have a toast to such, we click our glasses of red wine, and say
"Fuck 'em all"
I'll toast with you as well! The Germans have lost the plot!
Merkel. An utter disaster, NWO globalist tool
just like my old friend in Germany used to say. She detested Merkel.
Merkel went a little crazy towards the end. Seemed to be fearing loss of Empire.
Does Van Den Bossche sound like he's Belgian to you? Just wondering here, figured you'd know. I'm entertaining the idea that his accent is not Flemish.
Dr Vandenbossche is indeed Belgian and Flemish. He teaches at the university of Ghent, and so does Dr Mattias Desmet. You can check by typing RU Gent and their names.
Thanks.
It’s not just the Germans…
No. The West seems to have a collective death wish. True. But were I a German, I'd point the finger at Merkel. Everything she did is a screw up. Immigrants. Renewables. EU. ECB. Utter disaster.
I detested Merkel even long before she became chancellor, and was horrified when she was elected (though I left Germany 30 + years ago).
Where to? The enemy is everywhere. Not that there aren't better places. Just curious.
My favorite toast also!
I'm raising a glass of Talisker, and saying it in spirit with you -:-)
Cheers to your wife!
Thanks! I'm a lucky man :-)
OHMYGOSH! .... I have laughed hard at that one, because, and please forgive my language, but a constant and repeated line in my house is "fuck these people so much!" HAHAHAHAHA
😂😂😂 great comment!!
I love it
Eins, Zwei, Drei, G’suffa!
Jim don't say that too early ,in 3 month the G'suffa fun will be over .We will again have to drink our Schnapps with a straw thru the snot pouch
It's funny that all roads lead to more vax, which never worked to begin with.
It's literally a cycle of vax harder, mask harder. Both fail, then they flog the same dead horse all over again, vax harder and mask harder. It leads to same result- both fail. These people are too stupid, too arrogant and too stubborn to admit it, it boggles the mind.
Clearly we should organize as the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Dead Horses
They're "Doubling Down" to use poker parlance. Alas for them they have a losing hand and G-d is forcing everyone to reveal their hands now. Stay Tuned...
P.S. A great quote from a real sage I first read in 2003 is "It doesn't matter what you think, we will all know the truth and what is correct in the end". That "end" is nigh...
Doubling down would be a blackjack reference :)
Going all in would be a poker reference, they've done that too.
Cheers.
It's not that they are so stupid , look at the injured and dead ,their plan of extermination works perfectly .
To evil for sure
One trick ponies.
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail".
- Abraham Maslow (1966)
Yup--just posted that on several Yahoo comment boards. I like to spread the truth around as much as I can.
“The temp is higher! Climate change! The temp is lower! Climate change! It’s raining! Climate change! It’s sunny! Climate change!” etc.
We have to change the road signs ,so that all roads lead to sex ,not vax . At 86 I know what life is like to live like a monk and not like a monkey .
Maybe time to shut down the health ministries?
Health ministers! I fixed your typo.
I meant ministries - the public health bureaucracy.
No, she had it right since they all think they are gods.
Compromise on both
Did you mean sickness and death ministries , .I do typo fixing for free ,so please don't thank me .
Joe--"The Sickness and Death Ministry." So true. These devils reveal their true intent: As in the US; certain Canadian hospitals have refused life saving transplants to at least one poor soul--Who will not take the mRNA shot(s). "No jab? No transplant for you. Too bad; so sad." The Hippocratic Oath has become a relic of the past. "First; do no harm." The "healers" are harming people; on so many levels. Cruel doctors denying life saving surgery--Because someone refuses to take a proven worthless/harmful/deadly/experimental gene "therapy." Treatment denied. Not only by the complicit; self-interest; me-first surgeons--But also by the MD's manipulated by the higher-ups who pull all the strings. It appears that we are nearing the end of this age. As Jesus warned: "And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold" (Matthew 24:12.) Maranatha.
My opinion? Long past time
If we go by his “logic” then what is the purpose of the vaccines? Are they not being touted as “proving immunity “ to “protect” society? If the new ideology is antibodies no longer provide immunity then this negates the entire idea of vaccination.
The logic is that you're supposed to do as you're told, you pleb! The content of the order is largely irrelevant. Obedience is the point. I mean, just imagine if plebs started thinking for themselves. The horror!
Your mistake is in the use of the word "logic".
lol it’s why it’s in italics
Actually it's sarcastic quote marks, but yes, you're right. And my reply was equally sarcastic ;)
The venoms make perfect sense ,it all depends who you ask .
Maybe having no gas or heat this winter will knock some sense back into them.
increasingly seems to be our greatest hope.
Depressingly enough, you may be right. Even more depressingly, you might be wrong. They might use the energy crisis as an excuse to deal with "internal enemies." It could get very bad, very quickly. Didn't you have a post about people not being allowed into homeless shelters if they're uninjected? Imagine what they could come up with now. "No heating for you if you don't obey!"
They will ration food and energy and you will need a greenpass to access to it.
Yes, that's what I'm afraid of.
Like I often said ,the worst is still coming . Thy may allow as to buy without the food passport ,but only if we buy grass hoppers and lizards . In Canada it will be snow worms .
Our ''health '' carers will provide us with extra face pouches to keep us warm .So far they did not get to our rear ends yet , I have already goose pumps on it .
I already have to shut off the furnace. No more warm water.
Or maybe also food.
I mean, no food. Or a severe lack of it, at least what they are used to. Crass.
Naaah, they’ll nobly freeze to death to “save the planet”.
That would be okay with me.
"{ a positive antibody test is no proof that you’re protected against infection. Even deadly outcomes are still possible." How in good conscience can they expect anyone to ever take a vaccine again? This has me to the point of never believing a word from a politician, doctor or scientist ever again.
Truly living in a clown world at the moment.
But Eileen ,clowns never killed anyone and the kids love them . I hope what we have now ,does not seem like fun and games for you .
John Wayne Gacy was a serial murderer.
yes. and I'm pretty sure the ukhsa vacc surveillance reports showed population antibodies north of 95% at least a year ago. ( later it was shown to be spike rather than nucleocapsid prevalence though, ie that canalisation would be CAUSED by the vacc). At that point, week 42 of 2021 they weren't sure if people's broad nucleocapsid response would ever come back up.
No mention of t cells of course.
The antibodies in 95- 98% of the population did nothing to change the conversation here.
Cos covid...
They flipped the script on HIV as well. First it meant you were protected, then it meant you were infected. It depends on what they are pushing at the time, tests or quackcines.
A wise conclusion.
The descriptor "mendacious self-impeachers" comes to mind.
I enjoy seeing references to antibody counts not being a valid reference for immunity, because antibody counts are the sole justification given by the FDA for the last several rounds of EUA approvals. if I remember correctly, they also used that to justify the non-EUA approval of Pfizer's product that they refuse to release for use in the US.
Exactly. They've been using antibodies as a surrogate endpoint. Surrogate endpoints are kind of notoriously suspect.
Ha ha, you thought “health ministers” cared about your health.
They do care about health, but in an Orwellian fashion
Hey care about the growing money pile in their accounts .
The vaccinators can’t have it both ways. One one hand they say, following the example of Pfizer and Moderna, that the presence of antibodies, IS the end point of clinical trials for the jabs, and thus proves the jab is effective -because it produces antibodies! (Never mind that the jab doesn’t stop COVID infection or death - “It produces Antibodies!”) On the other hand, they say that 95% of the population having antibodies means nothing. “You must take more jabs to get more of the antibodies you already have! Because... science!”
Good explanation of the absurdity
Absolute and unequivocal nonsense, most of it beginning way back in early 2020. How much more can a sane person take, of this BS?
This goes back to the days of HIV and AIDS hysteria, one day antibodies means protection, the next it is infection. Maybe antibodies are not what we are told they are.
you have the same name as someone I went to school / concert band with.
That is the only way they will have it. Do not ask questions or think freely.
They are so secure in the values of the vaccine they can't even imagine when they backdoor into arguments against them. My favorite moment of this was the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.
That's funny. I got BMAB when I contracted the virus. Worked fine. All this time wasted on Vaccines when they really need to be producing therapeutics. Before anyone assumes anything I am 74 YO and in reasonable health.
Ken you are so lucky ,it could have been much worse ,like getting the flu,cold ,runny nose and cough . Those ailments only existed in the past from the beginning of human life on earth . In two and a half years those viruses called it quits ,the greatest miracle of all time .
So why did you contact the yruss ,was it with your smart phone .I'm 86 and don't understand why the yruss missed me for so long and not making contact . It could be the yruss called the wrong number ?
'the denunciation of multiclonal antibodies as they weren't prepared against the current strain.' Seeing how silly that is would require the connection of 2 dots. I think that's above their pay grade.
So, somebody conducted a serology survey of German youth, and found that 95% of have SARS-2 antibodies.
Long past time to declare victory and leave.
they had 95% on US kids, and still approved the shots, which will become mandatory for school, unless we manage to stop them
Public education is becoming a lost cause. Too many strings attached academically and administratively to expose my kids to.
The other five percent received multiple mRNA injections. Science!!
A technocrat should be technically competent, or is just an ideocrat, which is perilously close to idiotcrat.
The vaccine saga has been a real life version of that midwit meme with the bell curve. You've got simple folks saying things like "I don't know, these things are new and they don't seem to work like we was told;" reddit Americans saying "if you closely examine the hospital data and ignore confounding variables like seasonality then the efficacy of the vexx is crystal clear--also, you're a bigot;" and on the right side you'd have eugyppius saying the same thing that my roofer uncle said from the jump.
I choose to believe the chuds, thank you very much.
So let me get this straight...
Testing people for anti-bodies doesn't mean you are protected against infection.
Testing Pfizer's vaccine for the production of anti-bodies means it works and should receive regulatory approval.
$CiEnCe is so confusing...
Most of the rabble will still get the wrong (intended) idea, because they'll read his implied meaning that in this case "antibodies" refers only to antibodies from infection, not vaccination. Not all antibodies are equal!
American public health authorities, even Fauci, have publicly acknowledged for many months that antibody titers are not a predictor of infection or severe outcome risks. Yet many, if not most, of the pharmaceutical tests upon which the EUA was based relied on the surrogate endpoint of antibodies. That hasn't stopped them.
Being repeatedly shown to be wrong hasn’t stopped them. It’s almost as if reality doesn’t matter, as long as you click your heels together firmly to summon the monster fear
pretty sure they were not looking for the Ab to the nucleocapsid, proving a natural infection and robust immune response
To the average Believer, spike antibodies are the only antibodies in the universe.