"It was a small punctuation mark with major repercussions. The European Patent Offices's Board of Appeal has nullified a Boeing patent due to the inconsistent placement of a comma in the filing of the patent. This led to an ambiguous interpretation of a claim."
Do you know the further down the derivatives road they push the more dangerous the drugs hitting the streets are???
Fentanyl and its even worse derivative car-fentanyl are so unbelievable dangerous in mcg amounts that just breathing in a little white power will kill.
In this battle between addicts and the police, the battleground gets ever more deadly.
I don't know much about LSD, but if their arguments are right, that some of the derivatives are genuinely riskier than straight-up LSD, that seems like an argument for reconsidering what the LSD ban is really getting us in the first place.
I have never heard of any LSD analogues harmful to the body, but the German blanket ban includes psychedelics from other classes (most problematically mescaline analogues - phenylethylamines), some of which are indeed toxic and have caused plenty of deaths, most of which were probably never labelled as such.
Many years ago it was legal and a psychiatrist local to our area was one of the very few doctors authorized to use it in his practice. I think the idea of using LSD to treat certain psychiatric illnesses is being discussed again as it has shown some success.
I was certainly in favor of severely restricting its availability after being forced to listen to my then boyfriend later husband explain over and over again that the Nuclear Engineering department at UF was building an atom bomb to set off at the Plaza of the America's at UF. Right then and there I decided no more Electric Kool-Aid for that boy.
To be fair, carfentanil and most other fentanyl analogues are significantly safer than naturally occurring opioids and most semi-synthetic ones in terms of therapeutic index.
The therapeutic index is the ratio between a lethal dosage (LD50/TD50) and an effective dosages (ED50).
Alas this does not really attenuate the dangers for anyone abusing these substances.
You may be correct about that, but the fact that these substances are potent in the microgram range requires a level of quality control that "unlicensed pharmacists" do not posses. Hence the danger.
Yes exactly, of course you are right. I just thought I'd let the world in on this little known fact. ;)
Addicts rarely know which substance(s) they are receiving, let alone the exact amount. But even if they did, the fewest would be able to dose accurately by applying the rule of three.
fentanyl dosage is critical and works quickly stopping respiration. The antidote is narcan. Any illegitimate sources for either LSD or fentanyl are all subject to question
Sorry my friend, but I am not turning this into a discussion. If you want to disagree, supply data because I am too lazy for that right now.
I stand by what I said. Both Fentanyl and Carfentanil have a much wider therapeutic index than any of the popular prescription opioids. I think it's in the thousands for Carfentanil.
Probably not a worry. The addict and homeless demographic is usually a bit young for the typical cardiac problems of aging, and many of them are not tracked with Vaxx-passes.
The cocaine/amphetamine users certainly can enjoy cardiac issues.
In our small town of 5000, with a district population of about 40,000, the bylaw people told me that they see about 5 deaths per month in the homeless, mostly drug-using,, population, some directly drug-related, some due to exposure.
In the instructions for Narcan, you should watch the injectee for a few hours as you have no idea of the dose or identity of the injected drug or any accompanying benzodiazepine.
It is interesting a "modern shaman" is mentioned. Not to get too into it but there is a spiritual aspect of taking hallucinogens. I doubt the majority of users seek them out for that reason. But taking them can be used as a shortcut from complex rituals. Rituals that open doors best left shut.
How it fills me with longing, to think of a world in which the battles were like the battle of the Oxford Comma.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.
“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” The Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R Tolkien
I actually heard on Rebel news that the Davos crowd wealthy white men did indeed ask for “clean blood” pilots only to apply to fly their jets…Doesn’t that sure say a lot!
Well if Germany is anything like the UK when it comes to formulating Laws - it's no great surprise.
Decades ago the UK abandoned the perfectly sensible practise of allowing actual lawyers/specialist counsel to draft laws in favour of allowing dimwit but ostensibly university qualified civil servants to do the same job - but more cheaply.
However the bonus for us practising lawyers is yet again to prove that the Law of Unintended Consequences reigns Supreme.
Drum roll for one of the best and a real dog's breakfast (pun intended) I give you the Dangerous Animals/Dogs Acts 1991 and 2014.
Poorly written laws mean too much authority is going to be handed over to rule making authorities having jurisdiction. These bone-heads often have no qualms in going way beyond the intent of the legislators but without brakes applied by the statute itself little can be done until someone takes it to court.
Well personally I know I was just a f'ing genius when tripping. If I had a paper and pen I would have written a very wise and insightful tome giving answers to the great questions of the universe. Oh and that clouds were pretty. Like, really pretty.
By the way--I so enjoy the occasional opportunity to compare the subtle differences in meaning between German and English words that have a common derivation. "Krank" and "cranky," for example, and now here "Stoffe" and "stuff." Great fun.
Well, you know, perhaps Karl tried some of it, and while writing the number down, the digits were running away mocking him, so it was more difficult than usual...
Given the things he says, it's not so unlikely, eh?
Much as I despise the man, German legalese is notoriously close to gibberish anyway and I suspect things like this also happen to better and more knowledgable minds than his.
As a copy editor and proofreader, I love this. People love to ridicule “grammar Nazis,” but look what happens when grammar goes wrong.
God bless the Oxford comma.
Happens to the best, all the time :-)
https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/fatal-comma-error-epo-nullifies-boeing-communication-patent/
"It was a small punctuation mark with major repercussions. The European Patent Offices's Board of Appeal has nullified a Boeing patent due to the inconsistent placement of a comma in the filing of the patent. This led to an ambiguous interpretation of a claim."
I completely agree with you!
Do you know the further down the derivatives road they push the more dangerous the drugs hitting the streets are???
Fentanyl and its even worse derivative car-fentanyl are so unbelievable dangerous in mcg amounts that just breathing in a little white power will kill.
In this battle between addicts and the police, the battleground gets ever more deadly.
I don't know much about LSD, but if their arguments are right, that some of the derivatives are genuinely riskier than straight-up LSD, that seems like an argument for reconsidering what the LSD ban is really getting us in the first place.
I have never heard of any LSD analogues harmful to the body, but the German blanket ban includes psychedelics from other classes (most problematically mescaline analogues - phenylethylamines), some of which are indeed toxic and have caused plenty of deaths, most of which were probably never labelled as such.
Many years ago it was legal and a psychiatrist local to our area was one of the very few doctors authorized to use it in his practice. I think the idea of using LSD to treat certain psychiatric illnesses is being discussed again as it has shown some success.
I was certainly in favor of severely restricting its availability after being forced to listen to my then boyfriend later husband explain over and over again that the Nuclear Engineering department at UF was building an atom bomb to set off at the Plaza of the America's at UF. Right then and there I decided no more Electric Kool-Aid for that boy.
I think pain and anxiety medication and the occasional drink explain Lauterbach's lunacy just fine. :D
I take it a generous reading of the definition of "occasional" may be warranted.
Haha yes! Plenty of occasions come up in the course of a regular day.
Getting up on time, finishing the first hour of a hard day's work, making it to noon with only 2 drinks...
To be fair, carfentanil and most other fentanyl analogues are significantly safer than naturally occurring opioids and most semi-synthetic ones in terms of therapeutic index.
The therapeutic index is the ratio between a lethal dosage (LD50/TD50) and an effective dosages (ED50).
Alas this does not really attenuate the dangers for anyone abusing these substances.
You may be correct about that, but the fact that these substances are potent in the microgram range requires a level of quality control that "unlicensed pharmacists" do not posses. Hence the danger.
Yes exactly, of course you are right. I just thought I'd let the world in on this little known fact. ;)
Addicts rarely know which substance(s) they are receiving, let alone the exact amount. But even if they did, the fewest would be able to dose accurately by applying the rule of three.
You are mistaken.
fentanyl dosage is critical and works quickly stopping respiration. The antidote is narcan. Any illegitimate sources for either LSD or fentanyl are all subject to question
Sorry my friend, but I am not turning this into a discussion. If you want to disagree, supply data because I am too lazy for that right now.
I stand by what I said. Both Fentanyl and Carfentanil have a much wider therapeutic index than any of the popular prescription opioids. I think it's in the thousands for Carfentanil.
Probably not a worry. The addict and homeless demographic is usually a bit young for the typical cardiac problems of aging, and many of them are not tracked with Vaxx-passes.
The cocaine/amphetamine users certainly can enjoy cardiac issues.
In our small town of 5000, with a district population of about 40,000, the bylaw people told me that they see about 5 deaths per month in the homeless, mostly drug-using,, population, some directly drug-related, some due to exposure.
In the instructions for Narcan, you should watch the injectee for a few hours as you have no idea of the dose or identity of the injected drug or any accompanying benzodiazepine.
Hmmm, this does ring a bell. There has been a lot of talk about it. I remember a "modern shaman" was invited to Davos last year.
It is interesting a "modern shaman" is mentioned. Not to get too into it but there is a spiritual aspect of taking hallucinogens. I doubt the majority of users seek them out for that reason. But taking them can be used as a shortcut from complex rituals. Rituals that open doors best left shut.
Brave New World Revisited - once again
Safer in terms of therapeutic index. Yes they are.
You seem very emotional and I think you are missing the point here.
I was just talking about the pharmacological profile, not the issues arising from illicit use.
Jay Rollins was replying to UnvaxxedCanadian, not to you.
To the extent I can follow this, I think that may put you and Jay Rollins on the same side.
Affirmative. Apologies. You should not believe anyone. I am still correct about this.
I suspect (fear?), that very few legislators actually understand, or even read, most of the laws they enact. Anywhere.
Known to be true before, just explicitly demonstrated here.
New laws proudly written by ChatGTP!
It is Fat Tuesday, and punctuation carnivale all over the world it seems, with Project Veritas' logorrhea
headlining in the U.S. Jeff Childers, Vincit Omnia Veritas https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/vincit-omnia-veritas-tuesday-february
How it fills me with longing, to think of a world in which the battles were like the battle of the Oxford Comma.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.
“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” The Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R Tolkien
Where are the EDITORS when you really need them?
Oh. Wait.
Punctuation is racist.
Punctuation be rasist. So is spelink.
As long as we are all "equally" subject to these disasters, that's the main thing to their minds.
I think that more wealthy white men get unvaxxed pilots to fly them to Davos.
I actually heard on Rebel news that the Davos crowd wealthy white men did indeed ask for “clean blood” pilots only to apply to fly their jets…Doesn’t that sure say a lot!
Hahaha! Well said!
Equally f’d up...no thanks!
Just another brilliant example of the utter incompetence of the German government! A bunch of morons...
Well if Germany is anything like the UK when it comes to formulating Laws - it's no great surprise.
Decades ago the UK abandoned the perfectly sensible practise of allowing actual lawyers/specialist counsel to draft laws in favour of allowing dimwit but ostensibly university qualified civil servants to do the same job - but more cheaply.
However the bonus for us practising lawyers is yet again to prove that the Law of Unintended Consequences reigns Supreme.
Drum roll for one of the best and a real dog's breakfast (pun intended) I give you the Dangerous Animals/Dogs Acts 1991 and 2014.
Apologies for going off topic a bit
Poorly written laws mean too much authority is going to be handed over to rule making authorities having jurisdiction. These bone-heads often have no qualms in going way beyond the intent of the legislators but without brakes applied by the statute itself little can be done until someone takes it to court.
The CIA tested LSD in the 50s and 60s, but found to their chagrin that test subjects were prone to think independently and creatively.
This awful substance needs to be banned!
Well personally I know I was just a f'ing genius when tripping. If I had a paper and pen I would have written a very wise and insightful tome giving answers to the great questions of the universe. Oh and that clouds were pretty. Like, really pretty.
You were in the sky with diamonds`?
Great art has been created whilst on LSD.
The secret is to do it seldom, and be open and prepared. Then it is useful.
And non-addictive.
Don't these people ever get tired of being idiots?
Seems not.
Is it Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds or Monty Python at the ministry?
Where is Wavy Gravy when you need him?
Oh, this is wonderful.
By the way--I so enjoy the occasional opportunity to compare the subtle differences in meaning between German and English words that have a common derivation. "Krank" and "cranky," for example, and now here "Stoffe" and "stuff." Great fun.
You mean they weren't tripping balls when they wrote that law?
(Sweden's narcotics' laws are exactly the same, basically being "If we don't think you should, it's illegal".)
Ain't paralytic bureaucracy grand? 🤣🤣🤣
Are you saying the good people in charge of such matter are constipated?
By the way, thanks for the window of information into how to evade the tyranny of the majority with respect to recreational drugs as well!
Well, you know, perhaps Karl tried some of it, and while writing the number down, the digits were running away mocking him, so it was more difficult than usual...
Given the things he says, it's not so unlikely, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxGBFXUYOZ8
Much as I despise the man, German legalese is notoriously close to gibberish anyway and I suspect things like this also happen to better and more knowledgable minds than his.