Lauterbach in 2020: "Schools drive the pandemic, the research is clear." Lauterbach in 2023: The belief that many infections occur in schools and day-care centres “did not prove to be correct"
Lauterbach in 2020: "Schools drive the pandemic, the research is clear." Lauterbach in 2023: The belief that many infections occur in schools and day-care centres “did not prove to be correct"
I guess the research wasn't so clear then. The pandemicists will now begin to say many stupid things, as they beat a hasty retreat from policies that are more and more universally repudiated.
The problem is not so much that these losers--and I apologize in advance for saying that--said stupid things back in the day. The problem is that they said them without proper evidence, imposed their will as if they were justified, and vilified anyone who questioned them. Even worse, they will "forget" all this and ask to be forgiven, for "doing the best they could at the time." That is complete horse feces, but it won't stop the next such occurrence.
The crisis was inflated to advance an agenda. I think it's time to start looking at what the WHO has planned for universal health control. It's put forward as health measures but encompasses human, animal and environmental health i.e., climate change. The proposals would give the WHO control over what happens in not-so-sovereign-anymore states with the means to apply sanctions on to non complying states. Covid measures were bad enough, these proposal, which are being voted in in May I think are much worse. Vaxx passes are only shelved, not dead.
For sure the reach of the authoritarian machinery astonished anyone who was paying attention. The completely illogical plague response was so widespread and so uniform (with precious few exceptions) that there's a natural instinct to look for culprits and a motive - i.e. a conspiracy. The first thing we need to ask is "who benefited"? The list of suspects is very, very long, which makes it difficult to isolate a single actor and a single motive. At this point I'm not dismissing anything.
Indeed the list of potential culprits IS very very long. The answer to the question "Who Benefited?" , I believe, deserves a good old fashioned "Everyone" answer.
I’m less frustrated by this than I am by the people who still insist that the vaccines are effective and only stupid people wouldn’t get them. You don’t have to be a follower of the research to know that they have been nowhere near as effective as promised, which means simply that they failed. There’s a lot of people whose egos are still tied up in thinking they were good people for getting the vaccine and the rest of us were bad.
One good thing about getting older (as I am now at 73) is that you learn to not give a damn about what other people say in situations like this. So the people who got jabbed to the hilt and who arrogantly bloviated about "only the stupid people wouldn't get jabbed" will eventually come to realize all on their own who was stupid and who was not! Meanwhile, I don't care what they say or think!
I was kicked out of a dance school *just last week* for being unbaptised by the injections. Happily the teacher recognizes the absurdity and the class is moving to a non-discriminating school next week!! 🙌
Insane. Glad you can still go though. I’ve also been kicked out of things I used to participate in because of the shots. It’s embarrassing - not for me, for them!
-- The covid response as an unprecedented species-wide spaz-out
-- Fear, ignorance, incuriosity, shallowness of thought, servility both the instinctive and the learned, all helped ensure that vast swathes of the population walked unquestioningly, often even eagerly, into the jaws of their own enslavement.
-- As Kohlberg’s research demonstrated, scarcely a small sliver of the population ever experiences the highest stage of moral development - a point at which principles such as justice, liberty, and the sovereignty of the individual take precedence over the ever-amorphous and often-exploited notion of ‘the common good.’
Lots of goodies in the article....everyone should go read it!
I had a phone interview yesterday for a job that still requires the shots or a negative useless test. I asked the lady why they had that policy. She said "I don't know" and then proceeded to tell me so people won't spread the disease. She said two people in the company came back from Singapore and spread "the disease." I told her that proves the shots don't work.
She didn't understand anything I said. I won't get that job. I'm not the right "fit" and by "fit" I mean compliant with bullshit.
Their choices to act on the evidence they had, in the manner they acted, were just that - choices. The evidence against closing schools, and the evidence against vaccinating children, were clear from the start. It doesn't matter. The FDA still approved the mRNA shots for children up to 5. Nobody under 40 should have been vaccinated. These policies and harms cannot be undone. There must be a more substantial reckoning than this.
No disagreement, generally. As I have posted on about 1000 other substacks and as I seem to post on Twitter every few days or so, "As many--including me--have mentioned repeatedly, the FDA Advisory Committee, led by Dr. Paul Offit, voted 16-2 AGAINST recommending boosters for people under 50 years of age, well over 2 years ago. (The CDC, in the person of Dr. Rochelle Wallensky, publicly ignored that result, and recommended boosters to everyone, barely a few days later!)" I agree with you on the need for a "more substantial reckoning," but I seriously doubt it has any chance of happening.
If the scope of the harm they caused continues to expand, there will be a reckoning, and it will be substantial. What we see now is a growing erosion of confidence in government and media, and that's going to snowball once enough people are personally affected by the rise strokes and heart attacks -- either to themselves or loved ones. The Lauterbachs, the Faucis, the Wallenskys, and the Bancels of the world should be praying to their god Mammon that this does not happen.
Not one person should ever have been vaccinated other than those who were part of the non-existent clinical trials. It would have saved billions along with people losing their employment under false pretenses. And never forget the significant number of people who suffered post jab injuries/deaths.
I agree with you. Not one person should have ever been coerced to take these injections period. And what kind of evil actually uses pregnant women, babies and children as lab rats. These people are criminals and need to be charged and stand trial for crimes against humanity. I’m not in favour of “warp speed forgiveness” - we need Justice first.
In late 2020, early 2021, when I read how the quaxxine would cause immune system problems, I believed that the old people and immune compromised should avoid that sludge like the plague,. To me, it looks like NO ONE should have ever taken it regardless of age.
It is even worse than that. They'll not even ask for forgiveness, they'll go so far as to deny that any forgiveness is waranted since they were supposedly acting for the good of humanity based on what what was known.
Plus they cannot admit they were wrong, because they, as you well mentioned, they were activelly trying to suppress any information contrary to their stupid prescriptions and have continued to do so for over one, maybe two, year after it became clear they were wrong.
They know their behaviour was not merelly a mistake, but a criminal act for which they should be punished exemplarly.
In Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, the state murder apparatus was composed of such do-gooders, who self-righteously explained that were simply following orders.
The media is not covering just these imbecilic psychopaths in government and private industries, they are also covering themselves. The thing is, they have to.
Imagine if they were to actually say: “Sorry, we were completely wrong about every single thing we did. Also sorry for actually silencing people who were right and could have actually made everyone’s life better”.
Hell, even the most credulous brainwashed idiot who keeps plugged to the idiot box would probably be angry. And the worst kind of idiot of them all, the very smart and educated person, who took it all, bait, hook and line, would probably be even angrier, for deep down they know they are being completely irrational.
So, they obviously will not do that. Not without some sort of deal in the sort of “the first guys who tell the truth will receive a less sharp punishment” kind of incentive. And everytime they continue with this farce, they just dig deeper and deeper and make their actions ever more criminal.
It is like a lying child. He will at first make a very innocent and forgivable lie, were he to apologize and admit his lies. But he gets afraid, so he lies more and more, until he reaches a point where his parents will probably ground him for a whole week. Only in the current case the stakes are much higher.
Well, the media could always just point to the government "Scientists" and say it was their fault. "How would we know, we're just media parrots, we don't get paid to do any real thinking".
One thing all these types know how to do, is throw others under the bus to save their own asses.
“SCIENCE” is a performance by “SCIENTISTS” that is supposed to help people not make the error of “believing” something that isn’t true. It’s about finding and examining EVIDENCE. to yield the discovery of FACT. The whole point is to get rid of “beliefs” about reality that are not true. You don’t have the right to say you “know” without evidence. This is a shabby dodge by someone complicit in mass murder.
That's a truly devastating way of looking at what happened. After five centuries of perfecting the scientific method, our leaders threw it out the window in five minutes.
I'm a mother of 5. This is exactly the kind of non-apology I refuse to accept from my children. "The belief did not prove to be correct" should be "I was wrong." Just like "the milk spilled" should be "I spilled the milk." Data being misinterpreted (despite intentions) is NOT the data's fault. It is the interpreters fault. Just as milk doesn't spill without a spiller. I don't care if you meant to spill the milk. The result is the same and you must take responsibility and clean it up.
As the vaccinators start to gloss over their many sins, ask for forgiveness and amnesty, we must remember that all over the world, anyone who dared raise a finger in protest and/or did not comply was threatened, fined, imprisoned, harassed etc.
Specific scientists and modelers that got this wrong must be named and shamed. I recently saw a summary of Neil Ferguson's record for projecting pandemic deaths for the past 10-20 years. The difference between his projections and actual deaths is beyond parody.
The era of nameless experts needs to end. These people need to wear their horrible track records like a scarlet letter.
There's little consequence for failure in academia, other than very specific cases that violate certain protocols.
Don't worry, Neil will have a way better and more sophisticated model that the media will breathlessly believe and use to blare out nightmare predictions to a helpless public next time it is convenient to someone.
If Neil Ferguson's predictions are ignored next time, I will be beyond shocked. Hell, that will happen probably about the same time POTUS stops recommending vaccination in the U.S., or more accurately, never. :-)
And right next to the "Oops, we were wrong" stuff, should be a quite massive pile of studies and expert opinions that were suppressed, censored and ignored, to be used as evidence, to be violently rubbed in their faces during prosecution, when they declare they didn't know any better at the time. You know, .... about 10 minutes before execution !!
But that's the thing. We did know. I am a mom in Tennessee and I knew. I looked at what was happening around me, and a number of news sources. How did the people in charge not know?
Right. I kept asking myself the same thing, thinking they just weren't getting the correct information, and once they knew it, they would change course. Well, it became more and more obvious that was not the problem as time went on.
Yep. I think I knew about May 2020, from Alex Berenson. He always cited studies and explained exactly why they were valid (or not). I could not believe the things my kids' schools did over the next couple of years. Pleading ignorance now is unacceptable. I'll never forget or forgive the damage they did.
It's the same as with the Emily-amnesty-person at The Atlantic, same with Scott Adams, same with the company I do contract work for which JUST last week sent out an email rescinding their odious vaccine mandate, saying that at all times they followed the recommendations of Public Health. None of them have learned a thing, none of them admit they were wrong, all of them pass the blame onto someone else, they all say those of us who paid attention to actual data and science just happened to get lucky. No real repentance or awareness except in a very few rare individuals.
Americans call this a "limited hangout": offer a limited admission of certain errors (often with some expedient scapegoat), to create the impression of good faith and transparency.
Governments, like doctors, bury their mistakes. I do think things will return to what they were before the hysteria set in but it will be years before that process is complete. It seems to me that the governments of a few decades ago would never have allowed themselves to fall for the nonsense. The question is what has changed and finding the correct answers will be crucial to the long-term future of the West.
I agree - the internet has been the tool for this flood of propaganda and 'nudging'. I think it probably happened before with the rise of the mass media when governments and other vested interests realised they now had powerful mouthpieces. Social media have made it 10 times worse.
I was careful to weasel out of giving a timescale! I agree it's possible we'll end up with decades of Soviet style totalitarianism but I have some faith in people to see through the propaganda - especially as the Covid interventions are now unravelling and the next decade is going to make giant liars out of the climate catastrophists. Order your thermals now.
Yes, and large organisations with a hierarchical structure are amenable to capture by vested interests as we've seen recently with the Big Pharma capture of public health.
Like you, I can't see how this will end peacefully. Previous cases in history -the USA, France, Russia have all been down to blinkered governments who believed their own propaganda.
They say this, when at the same time schools in South Korea and other countries never closed and never had a high uptick in cases. In addition, even I know that there were studies saying that kids don't carry the same burden of infection in their nasal passages as adults do. But they're the "experts" I guess.
"... many of us spent a good part of November 2020 pointing precisely at these numbers, only to be thoroughly ignored." - or worse: demonized and canceled.
Nick Hudson at PANDA predicted that people such as Lauterbach would throw people like Dorsten "under the bus".
I disagree for one reason: people like Dorsten know too much about people like Lauterbach. The internal accounting will be difficult. Everybody will be watching his/her own back.
I think Lauterbach has to be careful above all, because Drosten is an actual professor and an important avatar of The Science, whereas Lauterbach is just a politician. If Drosten comes out and calls Lauterabch an idiot, that'll be devastating for him in the media and before his constituents.
It seems like these guys affirmed all of a sudden that 2+2=5 therefore denying ages of simple arithmetic. Then they come back saying that yes 2+2=4 but at that time we didn’t know. No way, there were 100 years of medical history on pandemics....we knew but someone decided to make a mess.
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Very good that he blames "the scientists", and I hope "the scientists" will blame him right back. Nothing better than a public ass-covering fight.
But "the scientists" probably will not dare to do, they know that Lauterbach is the bigger cog than them. And they also know that just like the last time with swine flu, everything will be forgotten after a few years.
Unless people really wake up to what terrible harm has been done this time.
The problem is not so much that these losers--and I apologize in advance for saying that--said stupid things back in the day. The problem is that they said them without proper evidence, imposed their will as if they were justified, and vilified anyone who questioned them. Even worse, they will "forget" all this and ask to be forgiven, for "doing the best they could at the time." That is complete horse feces, but it won't stop the next such occurrence.
They followed the philosophy of “never let a good crisis go to waste” and it wasn’t even that much of a crisis
The crisis was inflated to advance an agenda. I think it's time to start looking at what the WHO has planned for universal health control. It's put forward as health measures but encompasses human, animal and environmental health i.e., climate change. The proposals would give the WHO control over what happens in not-so-sovereign-anymore states with the means to apply sanctions on to non complying states. Covid measures were bad enough, these proposal, which are being voted in in May I think are much worse. Vaxx passes are only shelved, not dead.
For sure the reach of the authoritarian machinery astonished anyone who was paying attention. The completely illogical plague response was so widespread and so uniform (with precious few exceptions) that there's a natural instinct to look for culprits and a motive - i.e. a conspiracy. The first thing we need to ask is "who benefited"? The list of suspects is very, very long, which makes it difficult to isolate a single actor and a single motive. At this point I'm not dismissing anything.
Indeed the list of potential culprits IS very very long. The answer to the question "Who Benefited?" , I believe, deserves a good old fashioned "Everyone" answer.
Yes, the Gary Oldman version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
lol
Maybe they really meant, “Never let a *potential* crisis go to waste.”
so true
How is this appropriate here, Jessica?
Ooh! what'd she say?
Online porn site?
I’m less frustrated by this than I am by the people who still insist that the vaccines are effective and only stupid people wouldn’t get them. You don’t have to be a follower of the research to know that they have been nowhere near as effective as promised, which means simply that they failed. There’s a lot of people whose egos are still tied up in thinking they were good people for getting the vaccine and the rest of us were bad.
One good thing about getting older (as I am now at 73) is that you learn to not give a damn about what other people say in situations like this. So the people who got jabbed to the hilt and who arrogantly bloviated about "only the stupid people wouldn't get jabbed" will eventually come to realize all on their own who was stupid and who was not! Meanwhile, I don't care what they say or think!
I was kicked out of a dance school *just last week* for being unbaptised by the injections. Happily the teacher recognizes the absurdity and the class is moving to a non-discriminating school next week!! 🙌
It's so weird isn't it? I always snarkily comment "we're still playing these stupid reindeer games?" I get no answer, just dead silence and dead eyes.
Insane. Glad you can still go though. I’ve also been kicked out of things I used to participate in because of the shots. It’s embarrassing - not for me, for them!
Take heart, my friend, read this essay and you'll feel better! https://carsonmcauley.substack.com/p/on-the-moral-fortitude-of-purebloods
Such an excellent article full of gems:
-- The covid response as an unprecedented species-wide spaz-out
-- Fear, ignorance, incuriosity, shallowness of thought, servility both the instinctive and the learned, all helped ensure that vast swathes of the population walked unquestioningly, often even eagerly, into the jaws of their own enslavement.
-- As Kohlberg’s research demonstrated, scarcely a small sliver of the population ever experiences the highest stage of moral development - a point at which principles such as justice, liberty, and the sovereignty of the individual take precedence over the ever-amorphous and often-exploited notion of ‘the common good.’
Lots of goodies in the article....everyone should go read it!
Thank you kindly, I’m very pleased you enjoyed my article.
Thank you!!
That’s interesting, thank you! I’ve thought long and hard about the covid times and would I/could I/should I have done anything different.
Thank you, I’m sincerely glad you found it of value.
I had a phone interview yesterday for a job that still requires the shots or a negative useless test. I asked the lady why they had that policy. She said "I don't know" and then proceeded to tell me so people won't spread the disease. She said two people in the company came back from Singapore and spread "the disease." I told her that proves the shots don't work.
She didn't understand anything I said. I won't get that job. I'm not the right "fit" and by "fit" I mean compliant with bullshit.
Well if they don’t want a person that can think on their own, then no, I would hire a person because they didn’t automatically ‘step in line’.
Their choices to act on the evidence they had, in the manner they acted, were just that - choices. The evidence against closing schools, and the evidence against vaccinating children, were clear from the start. It doesn't matter. The FDA still approved the mRNA shots for children up to 5. Nobody under 40 should have been vaccinated. These policies and harms cannot be undone. There must be a more substantial reckoning than this.
No disagreement, generally. As I have posted on about 1000 other substacks and as I seem to post on Twitter every few days or so, "As many--including me--have mentioned repeatedly, the FDA Advisory Committee, led by Dr. Paul Offit, voted 16-2 AGAINST recommending boosters for people under 50 years of age, well over 2 years ago. (The CDC, in the person of Dr. Rochelle Wallensky, publicly ignored that result, and recommended boosters to everyone, barely a few days later!)" I agree with you on the need for a "more substantial reckoning," but I seriously doubt it has any chance of happening.
If the scope of the harm they caused continues to expand, there will be a reckoning, and it will be substantial. What we see now is a growing erosion of confidence in government and media, and that's going to snowball once enough people are personally affected by the rise strokes and heart attacks -- either to themselves or loved ones. The Lauterbachs, the Faucis, the Wallenskys, and the Bancels of the world should be praying to their god Mammon that this does not happen.
Perhaps people should send him letters with essays on how mRNA works.
Based upon what I read of Offit, particularly lately, he already knows.
Not one person should ever have been vaccinated other than those who were part of the non-existent clinical trials. It would have saved billions along with people losing their employment under false pretenses. And never forget the significant number of people who suffered post jab injuries/deaths.
I agree with you. Not one person should have ever been coerced to take these injections period. And what kind of evil actually uses pregnant women, babies and children as lab rats. These people are criminals and need to be charged and stand trial for crimes against humanity. I’m not in favour of “warp speed forgiveness” - we need Justice first.
In late 2020, early 2021, when I read how the quaxxine would cause immune system problems, I believed that the old people and immune compromised should avoid that sludge like the plague,. To me, it looks like NO ONE should have ever taken it regardless of age.
Well said!
It is even worse than that. They'll not even ask for forgiveness, they'll go so far as to deny that any forgiveness is waranted since they were supposedly acting for the good of humanity based on what what was known.
Plus they cannot admit they were wrong, because they, as you well mentioned, they were activelly trying to suppress any information contrary to their stupid prescriptions and have continued to do so for over one, maybe two, year after it became clear they were wrong.
They know their behaviour was not merelly a mistake, but a criminal act for which they should be punished exemplarly.
In Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, the state murder apparatus was composed of such do-gooders, who self-righteously explained that were simply following orders.
the media will cover for them, we have already seen that.
What ever "mistakes" were made, it would be so lovely if every one could just "forgive and forget"
Besides, we have a genius for a president now in the US
The media is not covering just these imbecilic psychopaths in government and private industries, they are also covering themselves. The thing is, they have to.
Imagine if they were to actually say: “Sorry, we were completely wrong about every single thing we did. Also sorry for actually silencing people who were right and could have actually made everyone’s life better”.
Hell, even the most credulous brainwashed idiot who keeps plugged to the idiot box would probably be angry. And the worst kind of idiot of them all, the very smart and educated person, who took it all, bait, hook and line, would probably be even angrier, for deep down they know they are being completely irrational.
So, they obviously will not do that. Not without some sort of deal in the sort of “the first guys who tell the truth will receive a less sharp punishment” kind of incentive. And everytime they continue with this farce, they just dig deeper and deeper and make their actions ever more criminal.
It is like a lying child. He will at first make a very innocent and forgivable lie, were he to apologize and admit his lies. But he gets afraid, so he lies more and more, until he reaches a point where his parents will probably ground him for a whole week. Only in the current case the stakes are much higher.
Well, the media could always just point to the government "Scientists" and say it was their fault. "How would we know, we're just media parrots, we don't get paid to do any real thinking".
One thing all these types know how to do, is throw others under the bus to save their own asses.
“SCIENCE” is a performance by “SCIENTISTS” that is supposed to help people not make the error of “believing” something that isn’t true. It’s about finding and examining EVIDENCE. to yield the discovery of FACT. The whole point is to get rid of “beliefs” about reality that are not true. You don’t have the right to say you “know” without evidence. This is a shabby dodge by someone complicit in mass murder.
The entirety of climate "science" is based on such dogma.
That's a truly devastating way of looking at what happened. After five centuries of perfecting the scientific method, our leaders threw it out the window in five minutes.
Very accurately stated!
Please don’t apologize.
I'm a mother of 5. This is exactly the kind of non-apology I refuse to accept from my children. "The belief did not prove to be correct" should be "I was wrong." Just like "the milk spilled" should be "I spilled the milk." Data being misinterpreted (despite intentions) is NOT the data's fault. It is the interpreters fault. Just as milk doesn't spill without a spiller. I don't care if you meant to spill the milk. The result is the same and you must take responsibility and clean it up.
Your children have been raised to have more integrity than the buttheads who "lead" us.
The PASSIVE Tense is the rhetorical predicate of ACTIVE fraud.
“Where mistakes have been made, the responsibility lies with me." GW Bush
The ultimate non-apology.
Responsibility? What do you think this is the 1950s?
As the vaccinators start to gloss over their many sins, ask for forgiveness and amnesty, we must remember that all over the world, anyone who dared raise a finger in protest and/or did not comply was threatened, fined, imprisoned, harassed etc.
exactly this. and never, ever forget all the coerced vaccinations, and the number of children they jabbed.
Still jab. Here on the US, universities still require the vaxx.
One can't even enter US without quakcination.
So do jobs. I still can't get a job being a leper.
It’s really so stupid isn’t it.
Specific scientists and modelers that got this wrong must be named and shamed. I recently saw a summary of Neil Ferguson's record for projecting pandemic deaths for the past 10-20 years. The difference between his projections and actual deaths is beyond parody.
The era of nameless experts needs to end. These people need to wear their horrible track records like a scarlet letter.
There's little consequence for failure in academia, other than very specific cases that violate certain protocols.
Don't worry, Neil will have a way better and more sophisticated model that the media will breathlessly believe and use to blare out nightmare predictions to a helpless public next time it is convenient to someone.
If Neil Ferguson's predictions are ignored next time, I will be beyond shocked. Hell, that will happen probably about the same time POTUS stops recommending vaccination in the U.S., or more accurately, never. :-)
We need some sort of central database to collect all the "oops, we were wrong" statements coming out about the covid response.
It was three weeks ago, I think, that Dr. Lena Wen disclosed that covid deaths were overstated.
You're right: there will be more of this ass-covering doublespeak.
I stopped trusting this bunch about two years ago.
And right next to the "Oops, we were wrong" stuff, should be a quite massive pile of studies and expert opinions that were suppressed, censored and ignored, to be used as evidence, to be violently rubbed in their faces during prosecution, when they declare they didn't know any better at the time. You know, .... about 10 minutes before execution !!
But that's the thing. We did know. I am a mom in Tennessee and I knew. I looked at what was happening around me, and a number of news sources. How did the people in charge not know?
They were paid to NOT know...
Right. I kept asking myself the same thing, thinking they just weren't getting the correct information, and once they knew it, they would change course. Well, it became more and more obvious that was not the problem as time went on.
Yep. I think I knew about May 2020, from Alex Berenson. He always cited studies and explained exactly why they were valid (or not). I could not believe the things my kids' schools did over the next couple of years. Pleading ignorance now is unacceptable. I'll never forget or forgive the damage they did.
It isn't that all of them didn't know, ..... it is that All of them were Lying !!
It's the same as with the Emily-amnesty-person at The Atlantic, same with Scott Adams, same with the company I do contract work for which JUST last week sent out an email rescinding their odious vaccine mandate, saying that at all times they followed the recommendations of Public Health. None of them have learned a thing, none of them admit they were wrong, all of them pass the blame onto someone else, they all say those of us who paid attention to actual data and science just happened to get lucky. No real repentance or awareness except in a very few rare individuals.
Changes wil be made only if the perps face highly publicized consequences for their actions.
Indeed, highly publicized and detrimental to continued, living style consequences.
Americans call this a "limited hangout": offer a limited admission of certain errors (often with some expedient scapegoat), to create the impression of good faith and transparency.
Once again, “The Experts” have been forced into admitting they were wrong. Never trust them.
Governments, like doctors, bury their mistakes. I do think things will return to what they were before the hysteria set in but it will be years before that process is complete. It seems to me that the governments of a few decades ago would never have allowed themselves to fall for the nonsense. The question is what has changed and finding the correct answers will be crucial to the long-term future of the West.
I really think all this could not have happened until the advent of the internet.
I agree - the internet has been the tool for this flood of propaganda and 'nudging'. I think it probably happened before with the rise of the mass media when governments and other vested interests realised they now had powerful mouthpieces. Social media have made it 10 times worse.
"I do think things will return to what they were before the hysteria set in"
I hardly think so. Not with what they have planned and are already in the works. Things will get much, ... MUCH, Worse !!
I was careful to weasel out of giving a timescale! I agree it's possible we'll end up with decades of Soviet style totalitarianism but I have some faith in people to see through the propaganda - especially as the Covid interventions are now unravelling and the next decade is going to make giant liars out of the climate catastrophists. Order your thermals now.
Yes, and large organisations with a hierarchical structure are amenable to capture by vested interests as we've seen recently with the Big Pharma capture of public health.
Like you, I can't see how this will end peacefully. Previous cases in history -the USA, France, Russia have all been down to blinkered governments who believed their own propaganda.
They loved the power that the tyranny afforded them.
Power as well as an overinflated sense of self importance.
They say this, when at the same time schools in South Korea and other countries never closed and never had a high uptick in cases. In addition, even I know that there were studies saying that kids don't carry the same burden of infection in their nasal passages as adults do. But they're the "experts" I guess.
"... many of us spent a good part of November 2020 pointing precisely at these numbers, only to be thoroughly ignored." - or worse: demonized and canceled.
Nick Hudson at PANDA predicted that people such as Lauterbach would throw people like Dorsten "under the bus".
I disagree for one reason: people like Dorsten know too much about people like Lauterbach. The internal accounting will be difficult. Everybody will be watching his/her own back.
I think Lauterbach has to be careful above all, because Drosten is an actual professor and an important avatar of The Science, whereas Lauterbach is just a politician. If Drosten comes out and calls Lauterabch an idiot, that'll be devastating for him in the media and before his constituents.
I have my doubts that Drosten and Lauterbach could make it through a three-round pillow fight, let alone hand-to-hand combat.
Winner gets a quick noose, loser a slow one.
It seems like these guys affirmed all of a sudden that 2+2=5 therefore denying ages of simple arithmetic. Then they come back saying that yes 2+2=4 but at that time we didn’t know. No way, there were 100 years of medical history on pandemics....we knew but someone decided to make a mess.
Quite right!
Very good that he blames "the scientists", and I hope "the scientists" will blame him right back. Nothing better than a public ass-covering fight.
But "the scientists" probably will not dare to do, they know that Lauterbach is the bigger cog than them. And they also know that just like the last time with swine flu, everything will be forgotten after a few years.
Unless people really wake up to what terrible harm has been done this time.