My father is visiting my family this week on the farm we fled to from NYC to escape COVID tyranny from our blue tyrant governor (previous and current one) and even bluer tyrant mayor.
He is a devout believer in the vaccines. Lined up the night before, like kids getting concert tickets. Goes on and on about how they're the magical solution to everything. If we get 100% vaccination, COVID vanishes tomorrow. I love him. I largely don't argue, because he doesn't harass me to get the shots.
He got his first booster right before driving here. Then went to the hospital about a day after arriving where he was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. It's apparently moving slowly enough (?) that they allowed him to sign himself out AMA to get it looked at at home after his visit.
The day after he came home, he reported to me a TV "news" interview where "people on the street" who refused the vaccine were being asked why, and allegedly, a person said, "because I'm a Republican and Republicans don't get vaccinated." I expressed strong disbelief that this person was real and that this statement was unscripted. Dad said that regardless, it made him furious and angry at refuseniks beyond return, and wanted this guy to be punished. "He's walking around killing untold hundreds of people."
How, I asked? Should they jail him? Beat him? Take his home, etc.?
No, he said. He should be given COVID so he can "face the consequences of his choices."
I asked, if the desired punishment is to GIVE him COVID, then it means this unvaccinated person who doesn't currently have COVID is still somehow walking around "killing untold hundreds"? How does that work exactly, dad? Who is he a threat to without actually having COVID?
No answer. But his wheezing is getting worse and he's spent about half his visit in bed. I can't force him to get emergency care, but I'm getting a creeping feeling that the booster is killing my dad and there's nothing I can do about it.
My father has not left the house for over a year. He watched US baseball on TV everyday. I asked him why all the people in the stadiums in Florida and Texas aren't dead yet. Unless it comes from a screen. it's not real.
Such a sad tale. So sorry to hear it. I'm praying that booster "mandates" will be the end of this insanity. But the people who willingly want the shots just don't understand the people who don't. Forcing people to accept medical treatments they don't want is the issue here. Nothing else matters. But because they want it, they don't understand. My sister loves medicine," and she enjoys "picking" the "nice" doctor and the "best" drugs etc. How would she feel if the govt sent a rude, ugly, stupid "doctor" to her home and dispensed medicine she didn't want? I'm sure she would hate it, but her lack of imagination prevents her from seeing that this is the same situation.
"Why are you refusing the very things that I want?"
My sister is of similar mind, I think. We just skirt around this subject as she goes silent, when I raise it. Why does she spend her time berating her government, on all subjects, but then falls into compliance because she believes them in this one instance?
Why should her opinion about the government be 100% the same for every issue? We've been conditioned into polarization, I guess.
I've been noticing this tendency in myself lately—even though pretty liberal most of the time, my opinion about the pandemic has turned very skeptical over the last year and a half. It's disconcerting to find myself agreeing with people I ordinarily abohr, but at least it's just on this one subject.
It's irrational to distrust government in all things, only to then blindly trust government with one's health by accepting this hastily contrived treatment with no transparency, poor efficacy and grave side effects for a flu virus that has almost no chance of causing serious illness. It's a non-sequitor.
I sympathize for you and wish I shared your unconditional concern for the well-being of a person who would rather see his own son in chains than face any amount of uncertainty. This is the "war of all against all" and weak spirits will not prevail. I've had to resign myself to the coming self-immolation of various family and friends over this issue. I won't delight in their suffering but I accept no responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
The war of all against all is the most terrifying symptom of this madness. If even families can be broken by this, we are all truly facing a total dissolution of all meaningful bonds in favor of approved narratives and fracture planes. If this is successful who will stand in the way?
I'm so sorry to hear this. It's hard to watch our loved ones, who are usually intelligent people, succumb to this delirium, even at the risk of their own health.
My dad and husband are the same. I can only hope that they will see that the jab hasn't worked for them and forego the booster.
He's 80 and has had other health problems through the year, mainly relating to his weight and old injuries, but absolutely NOTHING involving his heart.
For the first time I'm genuinely scared this insanity is going to hurt someone I actually care about.
I feel he and all such are hurting even to dying from lack of confidence. They pin all their hopes on a vaccine against some terrible enemy.
Like you see - they have no ability, no strength, no chance themselves?
If only they knew, would understand, would take it in that all the vaccine can do is provoke your immune system into working and then your immune system will 'save you'.
A bit of pride, you know? 'My immune system is good!' 'It's the greatest!' 'I am great, it is great, we are great, we can do, we will do..!'
All that sort of stuff is what they need.
Agency. Feeling of power. Empowerment. The knowledge that they can do it, they must do and they will do if it gets done - no vaccine is going to do, any vaccine does no more than, in fact, actually attack you in order to bring you up to fighting pitch.
So why not get up to fighting pitch now, yourself?
Get the things your immune system needs to sustain itself.
Get the adjuncts it can use in its fight: like IVM and HCQ and NAC and all that.
And get the positive 'go get 'em' fighting spirit that's so essential, too.
Dynamic.
Active.
Proactive.
Is the ONLY way.
No vaccine will do it for you or for anyone. It hands it over to your immune system. Deny that ! Prove that wrong ! Look that in the face !
Vaccine or no vaccine you are going to have to do it yourself!
And 'you' means your heart, your courage, your sense, your reason and your immune system.
Sitting down and waiting for a vaccine to save you is simply giving up. Making a nothing of yourself.
And that's what the nationwide call of the vaxxers is: a call for us all to make nothings of ourselves.
Vaccines can and do work for certain specific pathogens (not rapidly mutating RNA viruses) but without 10 years of hard objective data on willling human guinea pigs you'd have to be insane to try one. And now NOBODY should ever trust these bastards in BigHarma again. Ever. I won't even get a tetanus shot at this point since I have no trust in whoever manufactured it, packaged it, etc.
No they don't. Wait, wait - see what I mean: the IMMUNE SYSTEM works for specific pathogens. Vaccines do not 'WORK' for killing, weakening avoiding viruses. They do not.
They are not meant to and they do not.
They MIMIC them. Or sometime they ARE them, weakened or killed (hopefully).
Then NEVER 'work' the way you mean.
The actually do the SAME thing as the virus does.
That's their whole modus operandi.
So then your IMMUNE SYSTEM jumps into gear and disposes of the enemy.
Well of course there is not real enemy there to dispose of. So it just kinda runs through its 'cycle' and then lapses back in waiting.
In that cycle is supposedly creates specific antibodies and such to defeat that particular enemy and it creates other proteins that can identify that enemy. Quickly. And call on these specific troops.
So when the real enemy turns up it is quickly identified and swamped by an immediate callup of specific troops trained to deal with just that enemy.
What has the vaccine done? In all that? Dealt with what?
Nothing.
It causes trouble.
Vaccines cause trouble. That's their entire purpose.
Sometimes we expect it works out alright, just as planned.
But sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes the 'mock attack' turns into a real attack.
And whatever happens it is the IMMUNE SYSTEM that does the work.
So if your immune system is on its last legs, is severely compromised in some way it doesn't matter how many time you vaccinate you'll never make it strong enough to defeat a real attack.
Excuse me if you know all that.
Comments thread, you know, I put it in for the sake of casual readers who perhaps don't know.
Vaccine NEVER 'work'. They at best prompt the immune system to work. They themselves never do any work.
Dear Arthur, you are correct again.we will need The Collective to fight this tyranny. I said that it will take 6 months for many to come to the realisation that their vaccinations will not work. Here in Australia people are only just getting their booster shots. They will work in the short term. The very short term. Maybe only 12 weeks. It will only be after this time that they realise they have been duped.
I encourage everyone to have their DB levels checked. New research out of Germany reports that D3 plus K2 at 5000 mg per day is essential to fight covid-19 and survive. If you can't get ivm and hcq your next bet is vitamin D3+K2.
Need Vit D blood levels of 50-60ng/ml (125-150nmol/l) for maximum protection.
Requiring a daily vitamin D supplement of 4000-10000iU
vitamin K2 (ingested naturally from fermented foods like Sauerkraut/Kimchi) or supplemented at 200mgs/day prevents the theoretical possibility of calcification of artery walls.
Though it is virtually unheard of in studies , it is a theoretical risk. Especially if diet has high diary content or Calcium supplementation (eg Adcal )
Australians a very familiar with rugged physical sports. They know about exhaustion and effort. I hope with exposure to and revelation of the facts of the Immune System they will see the whole picture and know that 'booster' shots are 'boosting' nothing but simply putting the boot into a dying horse.
No 'booster shot' anywhere in this wide world should be administered to any person at all if you really have any concern for therapy without some proffered assistance for their immune systems - something that really will 'boost' it - and some education such as perhaps some blood levels or assessment of their particular Immune System - and some attempt to make them psychologically more able and strong by explaining to them the effect happiness, love and feelings of empowerment have on the strength and ability of the immune system as against the passive victim mindset.
No such happens. Totally no such.
Which is no 'boost'. It's a kick in the guts. A 'kick int he guts to your immune system, another provocation of it, and a kick in the guts to your own psychology and a kick in the guts to your rights and identity as a free citizen.
My 89-yo dad’s first wife (still considered a family member) had a cerebral thrombosis the day after her booster, then a stroke immediately following her surgery. She’s alive, but she’s my poor (older) sister’s responsibility…
What a nightmare.
I’m so sorry to hear about your dad; my younger sister is of the same mindset as your dad. She’s tough to be around since my husband, son, and I are the lone vax holdouts in the fam (we had COVID last November; blood tests show that antibodies/lymphocytes/T-cells are still going strong).
Prayers for your father and his recovery. Thank you for sharing this tragic story. May clear thinking and wisdom prevail, along with respect for people's rights.
My 80 yr old Dad got the booster on Friday (2 weeks ago) and died suddenly on the following Sunday. He was not is good health, but nobody thought death was imminent. He was a stauch independent thinker and didn't give a damn what others were doing, but got the booster because he generally trusted health officials and "didn't want to get covid". He had no reaction to the first two jabs back in March, so I didn't foresee a problem.
This is why this whole thing is so insidious. I went to a funeral last week for a friend of mine in the village. Was he old? Yes, 84. Was he sick? Yep, multiple co-morbidities. Did he die extremely quickly after his booster? Yep. Post-mortem? No, he died of "old age". His wife was horrified he deteriorated so fast but she doesn't know what we know, so it's just "one of those things".
I am disgusted with this Nazi T4 death program. Make no mistake, that is what is happening.
It should show up as a huge uptick in all-cause mortality in those age brackets then. Although since those are gov't generated stats, I'm not holding my breath.
How awful on so many levels, I offer my prayers for your father.
This illustrates the dynamic we face perfectly. Even as people are themselves injured by the vaccines they are still incapable of facing the truth. It’s a cargo cult.
In some cases, *especially* if they themselves are injured. If you think about vaccination as a draft, then the unvaccinated are the draft dodgers, and those injured by vaccines are those who heroically served the country. I think that's how many of them see it. Never mind that the war is pointless and unwinnable.
You're absolutely right. And when their kids die after the 6th booster the message will be the same: it's the fault of the unvaxxed that I was forced to vaccinate my child and it's your fault they are dead. This is why we need to pivot now to protecting ourselves in any way possible.
The tragedy is, my father was the person who taught me to be a relentlessly critical thinker, to question authority, to be really passionate about the founding principles of my country. But in the last few years his old age and the passing of a lot of his family and friends have dramatically changed his personality. He's become quite afraid of life and doesn't want to fight things anymore.
My father is very similar. He was on national television for standing up against injustice when I was a child. Now, I've been ostracized for being high risk. A year ago he said the idea of vaccinating children was ridiculous. Today, I'm selfish for not getting vaccinated or vaccinating my kids.
I know so many people that originally questioned the risk of Covid or the need for vaccines only to see them get vaccinated. I've also seen many people who were upset about boosters cave and get the booster. Now they pretend like those early conversations never happened.
My circle has become very small which is rather sad. However, I know in the depths of my soul that there is something very wrong happening and I will not comply.
Once you accept needle-rape, in any form or fashion, you will accept the boot in your face forever. And you will grow to love Big Brother. Masks were an early conditioner. Those who embraced the absurd holy rags surely bent over and took the needle.
My FIL got GBS from the Moderna vaccine. It has already harmed someone close to me. My father died several years ago and my mother is 86; she's 100% with vaccines. It's been very difficult to me to see them -- the people who taught me to examine everything, and to be wary of government -- to see them become extremely trusting of what they see on the news and that "the government" says. My father was a newspaperman! And though always a Democrat, he was never a progressive or leftist until his last few years. I stopped discussing politics with them about 10 years ago, and I no longer discuss vaccines iwth my mother. But she keeps discussing them with me...
Guttermouth - I totally understand. I have seen that happen with a lot of elderly people. I have often lamented that the stalwarts that taught us to critically think and to believe in autonomy are NOT in this fight. It has been a surprise to me.
What that generation was missing was what should be one of the basic tasks of reaching adulthood, let alone old age - coming to terms with your own mortality. As soon as it becomes real to them, nothing else matters except remaining alive. Not life-long principles they allegedly held, nothing. It was all built on sand.
A lot of them, like my Covidian parents, also cast off organized religion early in their adult lives that their own parents held dear. I think that spiritual gaping hole caught up with them in the end. Not to say one needs organized popular fables to think critically, but I do think that spiritual void they once prized spooked them in their waning years.
Many of that generation are Viet Nam veterans and hippies that protested the war. I can't understand how so many of those groups in that generation can go along with all of this.
My old boss/now friend is of that generation. He protested the war, hated “the man”, and lived communally for years.
Now he’s a frightened old man who believes everything CNN tells him to. He told me that “‘Antifa’ is just an idea,” and breathlessly reported that “Covid has killed more people than the Civil War!” When I asked him how he knew that, he told me, “The news.” I suggested he turn off his TV.
I recently remarked how paradoxical it is that he is unquestionably following the same government he used to fight against. He blames Trump. 🤦♀️
This is amazing. Just amazing. It produces in me a mix of wonder, repulsion, and slight nausea. What has happened to people?
I have an aunt who is a former registered nurse. Her elderly husband has dementia. She refuses to let anyone in her home who is unvaccinated. Her husband’s children and grandchildren have chosen to be unvaccinated so I guess he will fade into dementia without seeing his kids and grandkids again. My aunt is one of the most wonderful, loving people. She really is extraordinary. So it leaves me unable to understand her position. The vaccines do not prevent transmission. Her husband is almost 90. We all want him to spend the rest of his life in the best way possible but what is the goal? Life at any cost?
It’s fear. We have the Gov. and the MSM to thank for her unrealistic fear. I suggest you all sit her down and tell her to allow each of you to visit. Tell her you will spend the $30 at Walmart to get a test before you go to see him. If she refuses still, I would probably just tell her to get out of the way and go in and see him. Plan on a visit from the police but for me, it’s my dad and nobody is going to keep me from him if he were still alive, unless he was able to speak and tell me he didn’t want me to come, I would go. JMHO
If it were my mother that is exactly what I would do. But it is my aunt.
I think of my own husband and his boys. We would have to be battling a hemorrhagic plague with a much higher CFR before I would prohibit his kids from seeing him. It’s is unthinkable.
So sad. People have been brainwashed by the media that the vaccines DO prevent infection, and that natural immunity doesn't count. It's hard to break that spell -- the word "vaccine" beng so powerful. Maybe the booster mandates will change that idea.
I am sorry about your father. I hope he is under the care of a cardiologist. You might find this of interest. "Cardiovascular Adverse Events Reported From COVID-19 Vaccines..."
Although cardiovascular events have been reported with the COVID-19 vaccines, the causality is yet to be established because such CVS AEs are also usually associated with the general public even without intervention. Hence, people should be administered these vaccines, and sustained monitoring of these AEs should be done."
Did they at least prescribe him a diuretic?? The wheezing getting worse I'd guess not. There is no "allowing" you to sign out AMA. Hospitals can't stop you and you are signing paperwork absolving them of responsibility. Because you are signing out "Against Medical Advice".
As the government(s) must know about the adverse effects and excess mortality figures and in general the dangerosity of these products, imposing vaccination is equivalent to actively trying to injure and/or murder people.
In this case, I believe that a right of self-defense applies.
It is urgent that lawyers get their act together and flood the courts.
someothercat - you should definitely follow Coffee and Covid substack. He is a lawyer in Florida and they are MAKING A DIFFERENCE. It's inspiring to read. Today he had all of us donate $12 to Ron DeSantis to let him know that we approve of his legislation yesterday (banning mandates, amongst other great things).
As far as the former is concerned, with the public opinion this far in the crazy territory the lawyers won't do much. And the courts will just rubber-stamp whatever the bureaucrats decree.
This is sadly another piece of evidence for my growing belief that there's not really such a thing as the moderate or centre left in politics. COVID isn't the first time I've seen this effect whereby apparently "normal" left-leaning people suddenly turn out to be closet authoritarian crazies. All they needed was a little push, encouragement from those around them or simply other more extremist people to start acting and they become all-in on the most shocking acts.
The problem is the left's general "society above the individual" worldview. Leftism comes in all forms but that's one of the great unifying themes throughout history. Because individuals are real, concrete things but society is a vague abstraction, this incorrect mental framework can easily lead to shocking evil, which then naturally blurs into shocking lies as the affected people struggle to rationalize to themselves why they are not, in fact, bad people but merely more caring, wiser and blessed with a longer term vision than other 'selfish' people.
Unfortunately this is difficult to fix, but I feel that in future those of us who aren't of this mindset but push back much more strongly against anything being justified by reference to "society". Almost every totalitarian evil in history has been justified by this, or the very closely related "greater good", a Roussean "general will" and so on. Because society doesn't really exist as a thing, it invariably ends up being used to mean the will of the state, and thus naturally leads to dictatorship.
The left's "society above the individual" is at odds with the very idea of America. I'm not American but even I can understand that "a society of individuals" is a better concept of society. We are being led down the path to totalitarianism. That's where the "greater good" always leads. Totalitarianism is a societal psyche before it ever coalesces into an actual regime. Hannah Arendt wrote about this in her book 'The Origins of Totalitarianism'.
Well said. This is true ideology at work. Left vs right, East vs West, Collectivism vs Individualism. The Cold War inside of our own country. Someone outside of the US Tweeted (not exact words I'm sure) - "In America when you look at left & right, you're only viewing the right half of the ideological spectrum. " I think he right historically, but not anymore.
It's a feature and not a bug of the human condition. Be thankful you now know who has a soul and who does not, now you know who to spend your time and energy on.
Excellent points. The people who discount us now, were never that important to begin with. Friends who ghost people for being “unvaccinated” can go on their merry way. We will see who’s the last man/woman standing in time. All in good time.
Me too. It's like living in Europe in the 1930s and seeing the war clouds gathering. Or seeing the dystopian novels that were warnings, coming true. It's horrifying. On the micro level, it is so sad to experience the interpersonal conflict with family. I'm getting tired of holding the line. I will keep holding the line, though. I think we are still just at the beginning of this thing.
I am afraid as it’s getting worse, not one bit better. Mass vaccination in the midst of such high infectious pressure with such a highly mutable virus has been a disaster, just as Geert Vanden Bossche has said it would be. We must support each other through these terrible times.
UK’s impressive virus-genetics tracking data shows clearly that presence of mutations exploded in the weeks immediately following the first rollout of vaccines there, with delta eventually taking over. Prior to the vaccinations, virus was relatively stable in alpha version.
This is where it gets truly frightening. It starts with one, and will slowly trickle to other countries that are easy to control, and expand from there. It will come here unless we push back as hard as we can now.
"As for the vaccine-faithful, who are in the majority and fully empowered, and who have the political and the media apparatus behind them – they made up their minds long ago and can no longer be dissuaded by argument. They’ll never leave the unvaccinated alone; they’ll pursue them everywhere, to the last corner. They have erected mental defences to shield their doctrines from every doubt. They are especially convinced that all the irrefutable scientific arguments are on their side."
This is the scariest part. The bad guys have "hearts and minds." Nothing in this world will convince them this is wrong. It's not only embedded in the most primitive parts of their brains, they have been injected, and cannot be un-injected. It's brilliant.
I feel done with the reasons why this vaccine is neither safe nor effective. I've heard it all, I understand it all, I am convinced. The subject of this substack article is where we need to be focused next. When the country's Chief Executive tells the people of an advanced society (the U.S.) to ignore a high court's ruling banning mandates, we have lawlessness, i.e. authoritarianism. It may look like we get a few wins here and there, but they are in it for the long haul. They have all the money, they have control of all communication.
I watched a video by Dave Cullen today from Ireland (https://www.bitchute.com/video/5bHtiAVxdSBc/) called "The only way out of this". He makes the case that at this point, persuasion won't work with the vax-faithful. Facts, figures, logic cannot break the spell. He says the only way out is for these people to have personal experiences of the vaccine failure to get them to see things differently. Of course, I am sure there is a certain, maybe very small, percentage that can be reached with information. But on the whole, I think Dave may be right. Arguing just may not work. Instead, only real-world experience can change their minds.
Unfortunately, this won't work with the truly devout Branch Covidian. Even the death of their child won't break the spell in some cases. Even their own impending death won't break them out of the trance. Their very identity is deeply interwoven in the narrative. To discard the narrative is akin to suicide. This is one of the tenets of mass psychosis, or mass formation.
Yes, but I feel that between the fact that few people overall see any immediate ill effects that they can obviously connect to the vax and the fact that all of that info is blacked out by the media, they'll never see anything. The vax has already failed, but people aren't bothered a bit--willing to take more shots probably knowing that those wont work either. But they are so desperate to do SOMETHING, something that will help them sleep at night because they have been convinced that they will die (or kill someone they love with their germs) that vaccine failure is irrelevant, In other words, I'm not sure they care if it really works, they just need to do something.
The [mRNA] "vaccines" are a medical miracle! After years of fruitless efforts to get a mRNA therapy even approved, Moderna and BioNTech somehow hit upon the perfect solution in early 2020, just in time to bring to market the "vaccines" that would halt the pandemic in its path. Without exception, all of these products were tested on small populations, over a period of weeks, and rush approved for a declared "emergency." This declaration (EUA) had the added bonus, from a business point of view, of being a monopoly market, all the better because governments were buying boatloads of product and even starting to mandate its use. Any potential or alternative treatment was frozen out and otherwise discouraged, if not made outright illegal by regulators. This being a crisis and all, there was no need for all those stodgy old concepts like control groups, long term studies and proofs of efficacy and safety and so on. Being old fashioned, they were probably racist and white-supremacist in some way, so why would any progressive administrator do anything but show them the utmost contempt? The new products were so safe, having been developed with innovative technology, that there was not even a need to collect, much less act upon, any reports of adverse effects. Finally, an informal public-private partnership between governments and big media ensured that dissenting information would be quashed to the maximum extent possible. A new era had arrived, a true win-win for all! [Sarcasm, if it was not evident.]
I think the point of the video is that eventually -- and it will take time, who knows how long -- through immediate personal experience it will become undeniable to many people that the shots don't work and are dangerous. They or someone known to them will have an "adverse event" that will shake them up. Maybe I'm wrong, but with this news from Austria I sense that the clampdown on the uninjected has somehow accelerated this week. Where last week I felt like, "Well, I just have to ride out this vax hysteria for a while and deal with some hassles from being unvaxxed ... it's going to be a dark winter", now it feels like the pressure is on I could be in serious trouble soon. So, the eventual realization among many of the vax failure may not come soon enough.
Same. I am in a privileged position to ride things out, but things are ramping up in scary ways and there's always a breaking point. I find myself wishing for more AEs so people wake up before my life becomes truly unbearable. We are all just selfish in the end.
Latest data out of UK is crystal clear: the vaccinated now have higher Covid infection rates than the unvaccinated. And, as Alex Berenson pointed out yesterday, the Swedish study covering millions of people show that the vaccine leads to negative efficacy. With these things in mind, there is no other way to frame the tyranny being visited upon the people of Austria & Germany as anything other than demonic sociopaths attempting to kill you. They have attempted to hide behind lies, cons & manipulations since the entire scam was unveiled, but there is no place left for them to hide. The only way to avoid what is coming their way is to eliminate the control group. There really is only one response when sociopaths have publicly announced that their intent is to injure, maim & kill your yourself & your family. Will pray that the free people of these countries understand that their lives are on the line and do whatever it takes to defend it.
As I look for a rational thread to the Austrian Vaxers argument, I can find only one. It's that the booster will (temporarily) reduce severity of symptoms, thereby taking pressure off of ICUs? Have I got that right?
It reduces severity for some. Allegedly. More likely there's a bias in the statistics since healthier people are more likely to get the vax, and healthy people don't get very sick, anyway, with or without the vax. But many people get vaxed and die anyway, so it's not as protective as they would like us to believe. Reliance on averaged statistics overlooks the stark fact that most people aren't average. Above average people don't need vax. Below average people aren't helped. A few in the middle might benefit, and provides statistical evidence it works overall, while ignoring that it doesn't work for most. Liars figure.
My father is visiting my family this week on the farm we fled to from NYC to escape COVID tyranny from our blue tyrant governor (previous and current one) and even bluer tyrant mayor.
He is a devout believer in the vaccines. Lined up the night before, like kids getting concert tickets. Goes on and on about how they're the magical solution to everything. If we get 100% vaccination, COVID vanishes tomorrow. I love him. I largely don't argue, because he doesn't harass me to get the shots.
He got his first booster right before driving here. Then went to the hospital about a day after arriving where he was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. It's apparently moving slowly enough (?) that they allowed him to sign himself out AMA to get it looked at at home after his visit.
The day after he came home, he reported to me a TV "news" interview where "people on the street" who refused the vaccine were being asked why, and allegedly, a person said, "because I'm a Republican and Republicans don't get vaccinated." I expressed strong disbelief that this person was real and that this statement was unscripted. Dad said that regardless, it made him furious and angry at refuseniks beyond return, and wanted this guy to be punished. "He's walking around killing untold hundreds of people."
How, I asked? Should they jail him? Beat him? Take his home, etc.?
No, he said. He should be given COVID so he can "face the consequences of his choices."
I asked, if the desired punishment is to GIVE him COVID, then it means this unvaccinated person who doesn't currently have COVID is still somehow walking around "killing untold hundreds"? How does that work exactly, dad? Who is he a threat to without actually having COVID?
No answer. But his wheezing is getting worse and he's spent about half his visit in bed. I can't force him to get emergency care, but I'm getting a creeping feeling that the booster is killing my dad and there's nothing I can do about it.
My father has not left the house for over a year. He watched US baseball on TV everyday. I asked him why all the people in the stadiums in Florida and Texas aren't dead yet. Unless it comes from a screen. it's not real.
Such a sad tale. So sorry to hear it. I'm praying that booster "mandates" will be the end of this insanity. But the people who willingly want the shots just don't understand the people who don't. Forcing people to accept medical treatments they don't want is the issue here. Nothing else matters. But because they want it, they don't understand. My sister loves medicine," and she enjoys "picking" the "nice" doctor and the "best" drugs etc. How would she feel if the govt sent a rude, ugly, stupid "doctor" to her home and dispensed medicine she didn't want? I'm sure she would hate it, but her lack of imagination prevents her from seeing that this is the same situation.
"Why are you refusing the very things that I want?"
"Because I don't want them."
"Why are you not the same as me?"
My sister is of similar mind, I think. We just skirt around this subject as she goes silent, when I raise it. Why does she spend her time berating her government, on all subjects, but then falls into compliance because she believes them in this one instance?
Why should her opinion about the government be 100% the same for every issue? We've been conditioned into polarization, I guess.
I've been noticing this tendency in myself lately—even though pretty liberal most of the time, my opinion about the pandemic has turned very skeptical over the last year and a half. It's disconcerting to find myself agreeing with people I ordinarily abohr, but at least it's just on this one subject.
It's irrational to distrust government in all things, only to then blindly trust government with one's health by accepting this hastily contrived treatment with no transparency, poor efficacy and grave side effects for a flu virus that has almost no chance of causing serious illness. It's a non-sequitor.
Because Johnson is as good a liar as Trump was. So 99% of the time, you can show he's lying. Are you really going to believe the remaining 1%?
I find myself in this same strange boat...
The mind virus is so much more lethal than the corona. Sorry for your dad.
I sympathize for you and wish I shared your unconditional concern for the well-being of a person who would rather see his own son in chains than face any amount of uncertainty. This is the "war of all against all" and weak spirits will not prevail. I've had to resign myself to the coming self-immolation of various family and friends over this issue. I won't delight in their suffering but I accept no responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
The war of all against all is the most terrifying symptom of this madness. If even families can be broken by this, we are all truly facing a total dissolution of all meaningful bonds in favor of approved narratives and fracture planes. If this is successful who will stand in the way?
The war is not a symptom. It's the goal.
Me.... and you... and...
you guessed it... Frank Stallone
I'm so sorry to hear this. It's hard to watch our loved ones, who are usually intelligent people, succumb to this delirium, even at the risk of their own health.
My dad and husband are the same. I can only hope that they will see that the jab hasn't worked for them and forego the booster.
He's 80 and has had other health problems through the year, mainly relating to his weight and old injuries, but absolutely NOTHING involving his heart.
For the first time I'm genuinely scared this insanity is going to hurt someone I actually care about.
I feel he and all such are hurting even to dying from lack of confidence. They pin all their hopes on a vaccine against some terrible enemy.
Like you see - they have no ability, no strength, no chance themselves?
If only they knew, would understand, would take it in that all the vaccine can do is provoke your immune system into working and then your immune system will 'save you'.
A bit of pride, you know? 'My immune system is good!' 'It's the greatest!' 'I am great, it is great, we are great, we can do, we will do..!'
All that sort of stuff is what they need.
Agency. Feeling of power. Empowerment. The knowledge that they can do it, they must do and they will do if it gets done - no vaccine is going to do, any vaccine does no more than, in fact, actually attack you in order to bring you up to fighting pitch.
So why not get up to fighting pitch now, yourself?
Get the things your immune system needs to sustain itself.
Get the adjuncts it can use in its fight: like IVM and HCQ and NAC and all that.
And get the positive 'go get 'em' fighting spirit that's so essential, too.
Dynamic.
Active.
Proactive.
Is the ONLY way.
No vaccine will do it for you or for anyone. It hands it over to your immune system. Deny that ! Prove that wrong ! Look that in the face !
Vaccine or no vaccine you are going to have to do it yourself!
And 'you' means your heart, your courage, your sense, your reason and your immune system.
Sitting down and waiting for a vaccine to save you is simply giving up. Making a nothing of yourself.
And that's what the nationwide call of the vaxxers is: a call for us all to make nothings of ourselves.
Vaccines can and do work for certain specific pathogens (not rapidly mutating RNA viruses) but without 10 years of hard objective data on willling human guinea pigs you'd have to be insane to try one. And now NOBODY should ever trust these bastards in BigHarma again. Ever. I won't even get a tetanus shot at this point since I have no trust in whoever manufactured it, packaged it, etc.
No they don't. Wait, wait - see what I mean: the IMMUNE SYSTEM works for specific pathogens. Vaccines do not 'WORK' for killing, weakening avoiding viruses. They do not.
They are not meant to and they do not.
They MIMIC them. Or sometime they ARE them, weakened or killed (hopefully).
Then NEVER 'work' the way you mean.
The actually do the SAME thing as the virus does.
That's their whole modus operandi.
So then your IMMUNE SYSTEM jumps into gear and disposes of the enemy.
Well of course there is not real enemy there to dispose of. So it just kinda runs through its 'cycle' and then lapses back in waiting.
In that cycle is supposedly creates specific antibodies and such to defeat that particular enemy and it creates other proteins that can identify that enemy. Quickly. And call on these specific troops.
So when the real enemy turns up it is quickly identified and swamped by an immediate callup of specific troops trained to deal with just that enemy.
What has the vaccine done? In all that? Dealt with what?
Nothing.
It causes trouble.
Vaccines cause trouble. That's their entire purpose.
Sometimes we expect it works out alright, just as planned.
But sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes the 'mock attack' turns into a real attack.
And whatever happens it is the IMMUNE SYSTEM that does the work.
So if your immune system is on its last legs, is severely compromised in some way it doesn't matter how many time you vaccinate you'll never make it strong enough to defeat a real attack.
Excuse me if you know all that.
Comments thread, you know, I put it in for the sake of casual readers who perhaps don't know.
Vaccine NEVER 'work'. They at best prompt the immune system to work. They themselves never do any work.
Dear Arthur, you are correct again.we will need The Collective to fight this tyranny. I said that it will take 6 months for many to come to the realisation that their vaccinations will not work. Here in Australia people are only just getting their booster shots. They will work in the short term. The very short term. Maybe only 12 weeks. It will only be after this time that they realise they have been duped.
I encourage everyone to have their DB levels checked. New research out of Germany reports that D3 plus K2 at 5000 mg per day is essential to fight covid-19 and survive. If you can't get ivm and hcq your next bet is vitamin D3+K2.
Need Vit D blood levels of 50-60ng/ml (125-150nmol/l) for maximum protection.
Requiring a daily vitamin D supplement of 4000-10000iU
vitamin K2 (ingested naturally from fermented foods like Sauerkraut/Kimchi) or supplemented at 200mgs/day prevents the theoretical possibility of calcification of artery walls.
Though it is virtually unheard of in studies , it is a theoretical risk. Especially if diet has high diary content or Calcium supplementation (eg Adcal )
Blood level should be above 50
What is K2?
Australians a very familiar with rugged physical sports. They know about exhaustion and effort. I hope with exposure to and revelation of the facts of the Immune System they will see the whole picture and know that 'booster' shots are 'boosting' nothing but simply putting the boot into a dying horse.
No 'booster shot' anywhere in this wide world should be administered to any person at all if you really have any concern for therapy without some proffered assistance for their immune systems - something that really will 'boost' it - and some education such as perhaps some blood levels or assessment of their particular Immune System - and some attempt to make them psychologically more able and strong by explaining to them the effect happiness, love and feelings of empowerment have on the strength and ability of the immune system as against the passive victim mindset.
No such happens. Totally no such.
Which is no 'boost'. It's a kick in the guts. A 'kick int he guts to your immune system, another provocation of it, and a kick in the guts to your own psychology and a kick in the guts to your rights and identity as a free citizen.
'boost'! Don't make me laugh.
This is a wonderful perspective.
My 89-yo dad’s first wife (still considered a family member) had a cerebral thrombosis the day after her booster, then a stroke immediately following her surgery. She’s alive, but she’s my poor (older) sister’s responsibility…
What a nightmare.
I’m so sorry to hear about your dad; my younger sister is of the same mindset as your dad. She’s tough to be around since my husband, son, and I are the lone vax holdouts in the fam (we had COVID last November; blood tests show that antibodies/lymphocytes/T-cells are still going strong).
https://rumble.com/vpgl50-dr.-geert-vanden-bossche-explains-how-mass-vaccination-w-leaky-vaccines..html
Prayers for your father and his recovery. Thank you for sharing this tragic story. May clear thinking and wisdom prevail, along with respect for people's rights.
Hear, hear
My 80 yr old Dad got the booster on Friday (2 weeks ago) and died suddenly on the following Sunday. He was not is good health, but nobody thought death was imminent. He was a stauch independent thinker and didn't give a damn what others were doing, but got the booster because he generally trusted health officials and "didn't want to get covid". He had no reaction to the first two jabs back in March, so I didn't foresee a problem.
I'm really, REALLY sorry about your dad. I'm not ready to lose mine.
I think my hate and anger would boil over if I lost him to these monsters.
I’m so sorry about your dad. What a tragedy.
Now he knows the truth.
You’re delusional if you think these people will realize anything.
You also will know once you reach the other side.
I suspect the toxic shanks are killing the old and frail en masse but that nobody cares or dares call out the Covidian baptism ritual as the cause.
This is why this whole thing is so insidious. I went to a funeral last week for a friend of mine in the village. Was he old? Yes, 84. Was he sick? Yep, multiple co-morbidities. Did he die extremely quickly after his booster? Yep. Post-mortem? No, he died of "old age". His wife was horrified he deteriorated so fast but she doesn't know what we know, so it's just "one of those things".
I am disgusted with this Nazi T4 death program. Make no mistake, that is what is happening.
It should show up as a huge uptick in all-cause mortality in those age brackets then. Although since those are gov't generated stats, I'm not holding my breath.
all cause mortality is unfortunately rising rapidly especially in those age groups: https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/21/depopulation-agenda-most-vaccinated-countries-are-all-suffering-an-extraordinary-rise-in-excess-deaths/
How awful on so many levels, I offer my prayers for your father.
This illustrates the dynamic we face perfectly. Even as people are themselves injured by the vaccines they are still incapable of facing the truth. It’s a cargo cult.
In some cases, *especially* if they themselves are injured. If you think about vaccination as a draft, then the unvaccinated are the draft dodgers, and those injured by vaccines are those who heroically served the country. I think that's how many of them see it. Never mind that the war is pointless and unwinnable.
You're absolutely right. And when their kids die after the 6th booster the message will be the same: it's the fault of the unvaxxed that I was forced to vaccinate my child and it's your fault they are dead. This is why we need to pivot now to protecting ourselves in any way possible.
Brilliant analogy!
That's true of those who continue to vote for the same politicians who never improve anything too.
Brutal story. Praying for your dad’s recovery. Both of body and mind.
Guttermouth - LOL your dad is kind of stubborn like you are I think. ;-) Too bad his stubborn landed him on the wrong side of this argument.
The tragedy is, my father was the person who taught me to be a relentlessly critical thinker, to question authority, to be really passionate about the founding principles of my country. But in the last few years his old age and the passing of a lot of his family and friends have dramatically changed his personality. He's become quite afraid of life and doesn't want to fight things anymore.
It's been a very complicated thing to deal with.
My father is very similar. He was on national television for standing up against injustice when I was a child. Now, I've been ostracized for being high risk. A year ago he said the idea of vaccinating children was ridiculous. Today, I'm selfish for not getting vaccinated or vaccinating my kids.
I know so many people that originally questioned the risk of Covid or the need for vaccines only to see them get vaccinated. I've also seen many people who were upset about boosters cave and get the booster. Now they pretend like those early conversations never happened.
My circle has become very small which is rather sad. However, I know in the depths of my soul that there is something very wrong happening and I will not comply.
Once you accept needle-rape, in any form or fashion, you will accept the boot in your face forever. And you will grow to love Big Brother. Masks were an early conditioner. Those who embraced the absurd holy rags surely bent over and took the needle.
You precisely describe my situation (with the exception of your father's celebrity) in every word.
My FIL got GBS from the Moderna vaccine. It has already harmed someone close to me. My father died several years ago and my mother is 86; she's 100% with vaccines. It's been very difficult to me to see them -- the people who taught me to examine everything, and to be wary of government -- to see them become extremely trusting of what they see on the news and that "the government" says. My father was a newspaperman! And though always a Democrat, he was never a progressive or leftist until his last few years. I stopped discussing politics with them about 10 years ago, and I no longer discuss vaccines iwth my mother. But she keeps discussing them with me...
Guttermouth - I totally understand. I have seen that happen with a lot of elderly people. I have often lamented that the stalwarts that taught us to critically think and to believe in autonomy are NOT in this fight. It has been a surprise to me.
What that generation was missing was what should be one of the basic tasks of reaching adulthood, let alone old age - coming to terms with your own mortality. As soon as it becomes real to them, nothing else matters except remaining alive. Not life-long principles they allegedly held, nothing. It was all built on sand.
A lot of them, like my Covidian parents, also cast off organized religion early in their adult lives that their own parents held dear. I think that spiritual gaping hole caught up with them in the end. Not to say one needs organized popular fables to think critically, but I do think that spiritual void they once prized spooked them in their waning years.
Many of that generation are Viet Nam veterans and hippies that protested the war. I can't understand how so many of those groups in that generation can go along with all of this.
My old boss/now friend is of that generation. He protested the war, hated “the man”, and lived communally for years.
Now he’s a frightened old man who believes everything CNN tells him to. He told me that “‘Antifa’ is just an idea,” and breathlessly reported that “Covid has killed more people than the Civil War!” When I asked him how he knew that, he told me, “The news.” I suggested he turn off his TV.
I recently remarked how paradoxical it is that he is unquestionably following the same government he used to fight against. He blames Trump. 🤦♀️
Stay strong everyone😇✨🙏🏻💖
This is amazing. Just amazing. It produces in me a mix of wonder, repulsion, and slight nausea. What has happened to people?
I have an aunt who is a former registered nurse. Her elderly husband has dementia. She refuses to let anyone in her home who is unvaccinated. Her husband’s children and grandchildren have chosen to be unvaccinated so I guess he will fade into dementia without seeing his kids and grandkids again. My aunt is one of the most wonderful, loving people. She really is extraordinary. So it leaves me unable to understand her position. The vaccines do not prevent transmission. Her husband is almost 90. We all want him to spend the rest of his life in the best way possible but what is the goal? Life at any cost?
I don’t recognize human beings anymore.
It’s fear. We have the Gov. and the MSM to thank for her unrealistic fear. I suggest you all sit her down and tell her to allow each of you to visit. Tell her you will spend the $30 at Walmart to get a test before you go to see him. If she refuses still, I would probably just tell her to get out of the way and go in and see him. Plan on a visit from the police but for me, it’s my dad and nobody is going to keep me from him if he were still alive, unless he was able to speak and tell me he didn’t want me to come, I would go. JMHO
If it were my mother that is exactly what I would do. But it is my aunt.
I think of my own husband and his boys. We would have to be battling a hemorrhagic plague with a much higher CFR before I would prohibit his kids from seeing him. It’s is unthinkable.
There are no easy answers but maybe she will bend with the tests. Good luck.
It's a mass psychosis, a phenomena that has happened many times throughout history although not in most of our own lives until now. Professor Desmet explains it well here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Qj5bo_KFqgo&feature=emb_logo
So sad. People have been brainwashed by the media that the vaccines DO prevent infection, and that natural immunity doesn't count. It's hard to break that spell -- the word "vaccine" beng so powerful. Maybe the booster mandates will change that idea.
I am sorry about your father. I hope he is under the care of a cardiologist. You might find this of interest. "Cardiovascular Adverse Events Reported From COVID-19 Vaccines..."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8326931/
"Conclusion
Although cardiovascular events have been reported with the COVID-19 vaccines, the causality is yet to be established because such CVS AEs are also usually associated with the general public even without intervention. Hence, people should be administered these vaccines, and sustained monitoring of these AEs should be done."
Whee.
Did they at least prescribe him a diuretic?? The wheezing getting worse I'd guess not. There is no "allowing" you to sign out AMA. Hospitals can't stop you and you are signing paperwork absolving them of responsibility. Because you are signing out "Against Medical Advice".
Yup, I think you’re right. There’s nothing to be done.
I am so sorry this is happening to you guys.
(I feel like I’m living in Fahrenheit 451 or some other dystopian horror show.)
Here is my take on forced vaccinations.
As the government(s) must know about the adverse effects and excess mortality figures and in general the dangerosity of these products, imposing vaccination is equivalent to actively trying to injure and/or murder people.
In this case, I believe that a right of self-defense applies.
It is urgent that lawyers get their act together and flood the courts.
someothercat - you should definitely follow Coffee and Covid substack. He is a lawyer in Florida and they are MAKING A DIFFERENCE. It's inspiring to read. Today he had all of us donate $12 to Ron DeSantis to let him know that we approve of his legislation yesterday (banning mandates, amongst other great things).
I HIGHLY recommend this substack:
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-friday-november-a8d
Susanna ~ Thanks for the recommendation! A fun/informative read.
C&C is great and so is "bad catitude". All the cool cats went to substack when they were kicked off twitter.
Do you mean the continental Europe or the US?
As far as the former is concerned, with the public opinion this far in the crazy territory the lawyers won't do much. And the courts will just rubber-stamp whatever the bureaucrats decree.
One fellow had a picture of himself at a table with a sign saying:
"Forced vaccination is assualt with a weapon that justifies lethal self defence"
"Change my mind"
I wonder how many stopped to chat? LOL.
I'd stop to agree. For the first time in my life, I'm sad we have firearm restrictions in the UK.
This is sadly another piece of evidence for my growing belief that there's not really such a thing as the moderate or centre left in politics. COVID isn't the first time I've seen this effect whereby apparently "normal" left-leaning people suddenly turn out to be closet authoritarian crazies. All they needed was a little push, encouragement from those around them or simply other more extremist people to start acting and they become all-in on the most shocking acts.
The problem is the left's general "society above the individual" worldview. Leftism comes in all forms but that's one of the great unifying themes throughout history. Because individuals are real, concrete things but society is a vague abstraction, this incorrect mental framework can easily lead to shocking evil, which then naturally blurs into shocking lies as the affected people struggle to rationalize to themselves why they are not, in fact, bad people but merely more caring, wiser and blessed with a longer term vision than other 'selfish' people.
Unfortunately this is difficult to fix, but I feel that in future those of us who aren't of this mindset but push back much more strongly against anything being justified by reference to "society". Almost every totalitarian evil in history has been justified by this, or the very closely related "greater good", a Roussean "general will" and so on. Because society doesn't really exist as a thing, it invariably ends up being used to mean the will of the state, and thus naturally leads to dictatorship.
The left's "society above the individual" is at odds with the very idea of America. I'm not American but even I can understand that "a society of individuals" is a better concept of society. We are being led down the path to totalitarianism. That's where the "greater good" always leads. Totalitarianism is a societal psyche before it ever coalesces into an actual regime. Hannah Arendt wrote about this in her book 'The Origins of Totalitarianism'.
Well said. This is true ideology at work. Left vs right, East vs West, Collectivism vs Individualism. The Cold War inside of our own country. Someone outside of the US Tweeted (not exact words I'm sure) - "In America when you look at left & right, you're only viewing the right half of the ideological spectrum. " I think he right historically, but not anymore.
This will be no dictatorship but some quasi-technocracy cabal (with the same banking scum behind the scenes of course).
"Their empathy towards people beyond their own milieu and belief system was practically zero."
This is something I've observed in the liberals around me and the media even prior to covid. It's always astounded me; now it's terrifying me.
Yes, I think of this every time I see the "Hate has no home here" yard signs in my neighborhood. We all know what they're code for.
My favorites are the BLM signs on perfectly manicured lawns of 2+ million dollar houses with whites in 'em.
Sources tell me they're considered insurance.
Not around here so much... just idiots living their vapid lives through screens and "working from home". Triple maskers.
As I sit here and read this, I am in tears. I feel so helpless. What in the hell is this world coming to??!! OMG.
It's a feature and not a bug of the human condition. Be thankful you now know who has a soul and who does not, now you know who to spend your time and energy on.
Excellent points. The people who discount us now, were never that important to begin with. Friends who ghost people for being “unvaccinated” can go on their merry way. We will see who’s the last man/woman standing in time. All in good time.
This too shall pass.
If this hasn't made you cry at least once, you're either a sociopath or not paying attention!
so true!
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Me too. It's like living in Europe in the 1930s and seeing the war clouds gathering. Or seeing the dystopian novels that were warnings, coming true. It's horrifying. On the micro level, it is so sad to experience the interpersonal conflict with family. I'm getting tired of holding the line. I will keep holding the line, though. I think we are still just at the beginning of this thing.
I am afraid as it’s getting worse, not one bit better. Mass vaccination in the midst of such high infectious pressure with such a highly mutable virus has been a disaster, just as Geert Vanden Bossche has said it would be. We must support each other through these terrible times.
UK’s impressive virus-genetics tracking data shows clearly that presence of mutations exploded in the weeks immediately following the first rollout of vaccines there, with delta eventually taking over. Prior to the vaccinations, virus was relatively stable in alpha version.
https://youtu.be/mGAkV1G5CkU/?t=32m01s
This is where it gets truly frightening. It starts with one, and will slowly trickle to other countries that are easy to control, and expand from there. It will come here unless we push back as hard as we can now.
"As for the vaccine-faithful, who are in the majority and fully empowered, and who have the political and the media apparatus behind them – they made up their minds long ago and can no longer be dissuaded by argument. They’ll never leave the unvaccinated alone; they’ll pursue them everywhere, to the last corner. They have erected mental defences to shield their doctrines from every doubt. They are especially convinced that all the irrefutable scientific arguments are on their side."
This is the scariest part. The bad guys have "hearts and minds." Nothing in this world will convince them this is wrong. It's not only embedded in the most primitive parts of their brains, they have been injected, and cannot be un-injected. It's brilliant.
I feel done with the reasons why this vaccine is neither safe nor effective. I've heard it all, I understand it all, I am convinced. The subject of this substack article is where we need to be focused next. When the country's Chief Executive tells the people of an advanced society (the U.S.) to ignore a high court's ruling banning mandates, we have lawlessness, i.e. authoritarianism. It may look like we get a few wins here and there, but they are in it for the long haul. They have all the money, they have control of all communication.
So what do we do?
“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”
― Lao Tzu
Yes, but I think we may also need some guns and ammo. (Just half kidding)
Locked and loaded.
The USA has no chief executive. The head puppet spot is currently vacant. By design.
I watched a video by Dave Cullen today from Ireland (https://www.bitchute.com/video/5bHtiAVxdSBc/) called "The only way out of this". He makes the case that at this point, persuasion won't work with the vax-faithful. Facts, figures, logic cannot break the spell. He says the only way out is for these people to have personal experiences of the vaccine failure to get them to see things differently. Of course, I am sure there is a certain, maybe very small, percentage that can be reached with information. But on the whole, I think Dave may be right. Arguing just may not work. Instead, only real-world experience can change their minds.
Unfortunately, this won't work with the truly devout Branch Covidian. Even the death of their child won't break the spell in some cases. Even their own impending death won't break them out of the trance. Their very identity is deeply interwoven in the narrative. To discard the narrative is akin to suicide. This is one of the tenets of mass psychosis, or mass formation.
Yes, but I feel that between the fact that few people overall see any immediate ill effects that they can obviously connect to the vax and the fact that all of that info is blacked out by the media, they'll never see anything. The vax has already failed, but people aren't bothered a bit--willing to take more shots probably knowing that those wont work either. But they are so desperate to do SOMETHING, something that will help them sleep at night because they have been convinced that they will die (or kill someone they love with their germs) that vaccine failure is irrelevant, In other words, I'm not sure they care if it really works, they just need to do something.
The [mRNA] "vaccines" are a medical miracle! After years of fruitless efforts to get a mRNA therapy even approved, Moderna and BioNTech somehow hit upon the perfect solution in early 2020, just in time to bring to market the "vaccines" that would halt the pandemic in its path. Without exception, all of these products were tested on small populations, over a period of weeks, and rush approved for a declared "emergency." This declaration (EUA) had the added bonus, from a business point of view, of being a monopoly market, all the better because governments were buying boatloads of product and even starting to mandate its use. Any potential or alternative treatment was frozen out and otherwise discouraged, if not made outright illegal by regulators. This being a crisis and all, there was no need for all those stodgy old concepts like control groups, long term studies and proofs of efficacy and safety and so on. Being old fashioned, they were probably racist and white-supremacist in some way, so why would any progressive administrator do anything but show them the utmost contempt? The new products were so safe, having been developed with innovative technology, that there was not even a need to collect, much less act upon, any reports of adverse effects. Finally, an informal public-private partnership between governments and big media ensured that dissenting information would be quashed to the maximum extent possible. A new era had arrived, a true win-win for all! [Sarcasm, if it was not evident.]
I think the point of the video is that eventually -- and it will take time, who knows how long -- through immediate personal experience it will become undeniable to many people that the shots don't work and are dangerous. They or someone known to them will have an "adverse event" that will shake them up. Maybe I'm wrong, but with this news from Austria I sense that the clampdown on the uninjected has somehow accelerated this week. Where last week I felt like, "Well, I just have to ride out this vax hysteria for a while and deal with some hassles from being unvaxxed ... it's going to be a dark winter", now it feels like the pressure is on I could be in serious trouble soon. So, the eventual realization among many of the vax failure may not come soon enough.
Same. I am in a privileged position to ride things out, but things are ramping up in scary ways and there's always a breaking point. I find myself wishing for more AEs so people wake up before my life becomes truly unbearable. We are all just selfish in the end.
Read the list with WEF people. Don't vote for any of them.
You’re still clinging yo your delusion about “votes matter”… open your eyes!
The nonvaxxed are the new Jews. We are living in the 1930s again.
Latest data out of UK is crystal clear: the vaccinated now have higher Covid infection rates than the unvaccinated. And, as Alex Berenson pointed out yesterday, the Swedish study covering millions of people show that the vaccine leads to negative efficacy. With these things in mind, there is no other way to frame the tyranny being visited upon the people of Austria & Germany as anything other than demonic sociopaths attempting to kill you. They have attempted to hide behind lies, cons & manipulations since the entire scam was unveiled, but there is no place left for them to hide. The only way to avoid what is coming their way is to eliminate the control group. There really is only one response when sociopaths have publicly announced that their intent is to injure, maim & kill your yourself & your family. Will pray that the free people of these countries understand that their lives are on the line and do whatever it takes to defend it.
As I look for a rational thread to the Austrian Vaxers argument, I can find only one. It's that the booster will (temporarily) reduce severity of symptoms, thereby taking pressure off of ICUs? Have I got that right?
It doesn't though.
If you're in a hospital for an unrelated reason and you're unvaxed, the doctors will almost certainly require you to get tested for covid.
They are far less likely to require this if you're vaxed.
That's where your "vaccines reduce hospitalizations" data comes from.
Dear God. This gets more sinister by the minute.
Nah, it was pure Evil over a year ago.
It reduces severity for some. Allegedly. More likely there's a bias in the statistics since healthier people are more likely to get the vax, and healthy people don't get very sick, anyway, with or without the vax. But many people get vaxed and die anyway, so it's not as protective as they would like us to believe. Reliance on averaged statistics overlooks the stark fact that most people aren't average. Above average people don't need vax. Below average people aren't helped. A few in the middle might benefit, and provides statistical evidence it works overall, while ignoring that it doesn't work for most. Liars figure.