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Dr. K's avatar

Eugyppius, Fascinating, and I am sure we would see the same in the similar US release if all 148 pages had not been fully redacted. (Yes, 148 pages of blocked text was their FOIA response.)

But one has to hope that SOMETHING captures the attention of the masses -- people generally know they've been had. Perhaps Kate's turbo-cancer at a young age or the epidemic of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (I have been practicing for decades and never saw a single case of this until the spikeshots) will eventually catch their attention. Then materials like this do help to add fuel to the fire.

Those of us following you since the beginning are far better informed than almost anyone else. Personally, I hope it is just a bad day and you have not completely given up the ship. Although I could understand why if you have.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Unfortunately it's a positive feedback loop between censorship and Covid narrative. The censorship apparatus keeps the average citizen believing the Covid narrative, and believing the Covid lies are nutty-conspiracy-theory keeps the average citizen supportive of censorship.

I see this with my friends all the time. Because they only listen to NPR and MSNBC, they treat me as a nut on Covid, and become ever more resistant to even acknowledging other sources of information. Which includes supporting government censorship activities.

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Paul Ashley's avatar

Those who obeyed the diktat to not do their own research, or were never inclined to do it in the first place, are still ... not doing their own research.

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Danno's avatar

Don't you know that doing your own research marks you as an enemy of the state?

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

One of the things that really cemented the Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers vibe when I went back to work after the 3 month shutdown was the complete capture of everyone I worked with. I was trying to reason with the guy whom I considered the smartest at my entire workplace. I offered to show him some data and charts to support what I was saying... he said no with extreme vehemence. He refused to even see or consider one bit of it, even if I curated it for him. This is a guy who was going to school on the side for data analysis...

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TRM's avatar

The Donald Sutherland version is a total classic. I got the same vibe. To this day I view anyone who took the shots as someone who's judgment can't be trusted. I feel so alien in my own species LOL. I can only relate to those who said no and stood their ground. Around here that's about 10%.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

The only person I know IRL who said no was my step-uncle, a Hungarian conspiracy enjoying immigrant. We even went along with most of the masking to keep our jobs and avoid confrontations in stores. We hated everyone we knew after covid, and the entire county/state, so we moved to South Dakota.

As for Invasion, it was nearly literal for me. First day back at work, I was in the breakroom, by myself, with the door open, not wearing my mask - which wasn't even officially required yet. A guy in the adjoining grocery store-sized warehouse room who was about 20 ft from the door screamed "He's not wearing a mask!" while pointing at me, just like D Sutherland in the movie. He ran to the door and slammed it on me...

The next day I visited someone I thought was my friend and told him the story so we could commiserate... He shook his head with a smug look on his face and said "Yep. People who don't wear masks are assholes."

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

The plan to divide and conquer has been a big success. Tragically.

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Ivan Kaltman's avatar

I took the initial shots. I was wrong to trust my federal health care agencies. I am far more skeptical of them now.

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TRM's avatar

I'm glad you didn't take the booster. That's where the IgG3/4 switch takes place and then you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Are you doing any of the flccc.net "I-Recover: Post Vaccine Treatment" or any other post vaccine protocols?

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Ivan Kaltman's avatar

I am not familiar with post vaccine protocols. I did, however, stop taking the flu shot.

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gusman's avatar

trans human now. soulless vesels

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It is definitely "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" vibes.

Because of the moral overtones of the vaccine and other aspects to the pandemic response, anyone who did not adhere is considered to be a bad person. And woe be unto you for dissenting. I don't push it with friends or family.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

Quote from post above in case you don't see it:

As for Invasion, it was nearly literal for me. First day back at work, I was in the breakroom, by myself, with the door open, not wearing my mask - which wasn't even officially required yet. A guy in the adjoining grocery store-sized warehouse room who was about 20 ft from the door screamed "He's not wearing a mask!" while pointing at me, just like D Sutherland in the movie. He ran to the door and slammed it on me...

The next day I visited someone I thought was my friend and told him the story so we could commiserate... He shook his head with a smug look on his face and said "Yep. People who don't wear masks are assholes."

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Sorry to hear your story. Mine is more baffling than anything.

When things began to reopen I was part of a writer's group that met every second and fourth Thursday of each month. We met and ate at a cafeteria here in Georgia. The mask mandates here were fast and loose here. Mom and Pop businesses were hit and miss in terms of masking. Most did not require it. but the main clientele of the cafeteria were older people. Anyhow the first few times after reopening, no masks were required. some people wore them, others did not. But the pressure was definitely towards masking. I think the employees were all wearing them which didn't make sense to me. So the employees are infectious, but the customers aren't? Or the customers are all infected and the employees because they were essential had to be protected?

One day I came to the door and the chalkboard outside the place said "Masks required while standing in line for food." I guess the virus knows if you are in line with strangers vs. sitting and eating with friends? I decided I was going to the writer's group without eating. And I was in the backroom of the cafeteria feeling hungry and angry. Their fried pork chops were legendary.

An employee was spraying down and wiping the tables before our meeting and a friend writer walked in...who was older and, before this moment, thought of him as a conservative. He was wearing a green cotton custom mask, and carrying in his food. I asked the employee and him who also just walked in "I don't have a mask, so should I just leave?"

The employee's and friend's response was surreal. They offered me their masks. I clarified, "I don't have a mask because I am not going to wear a mask."

The employee, who looked at me as if I'd grown a extra orifice with diseased saliva dripping out of it asked "Why?"

So I have him a list of reasons why I wouldn't wear the mask. I already had Covid. Masks don't work. The virus is airborne. And it is far less dangerous that they say it was. The employee said I could stay, but I think standing in line would not be allowed.

Sitting there, watching my friend eat, I figured my way around it then. Since reopening, the cafeteria had a drive up service for those who were insecure about enclosed rooms. So, I got in my car, got in line. Ordered my food. Received it. Parked the car, And walked into the dining area with the food.

This went on for about a month and a half. And I think the management got wise to those of us doing this and so made the rule that if you are walking around in the restaurant you had to mask, but sitting and eating was permitted. It is a surreal sight to see. Signage stating "mask required on entry" and then you see a restaurant full of people eating unmasked.

I turned around and left.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

I wish I had defied mask mandates more. Everyone was so terrified at my job, I would have been fired. I tried to get an exemption from my doctor because I have nasal swelling and I was getting dizzy during the aerobic portions of my job. She dismissively told me to try a different mask or go to an ENT for stronger drugs. If I had gotten an exemption, I'm sure they would have banned me from common areas of the job, maybe even suspended me with pay until they could figure out the legalities of firing me. I ended up using porous summer neck gaiters which got everyone off my back.

We also wore them in stores most of the time because we didn't want to deal with arguments/confrontations, which would probably usually involve abusing low paid store employees. What floored us is we could barely find a single IRL friend or acquaintance who even secretly/quietly objected. Everyone was into it. That's why we moved from a deep blue metro area to the reddest, least covid tyrannized part of the US we could find. Ultimately, the reason we kept complying as much as we did, after the initial shock period, was to save up money and plan our escape.

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SloopJohnB's avatar

Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978 --- I have never seen this movie. I will watch it today. Though might have to finish on the weekend. Thanks. I bet there is a lot of the C19 panic in it.

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gusman's avatar

who don't wear masks are assholes."

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Share. oh verybdear

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Ivan Kaltman's avatar

Try to debate climate science with such individuals, you will get the same results. You cannot dislodge a BELIEF, no matter how much evidence you present.

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Tardigrade's avatar

You can't argue about religion.

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gusman's avatar

trying to reason. youcant even now. thezombies can never wake up

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

At this point Tardigrade in my own small circle I'm aware of 4 deaths -- 5 counting my ex-landlady's cat Mischief; poor creature had to be put down due to an inoperable tumor in the artery feeding his legs -- and about a dozen permanent, debilitating injuries. My 27-year-old step-daughter for example can't go outside, the wind against the eczema on her face hurts too much, the eczema on her hands is such she can't do any kind of house work. I tried to warn her, but she wouldn't listen: 4 doses of the Lethal Injection and counting... 🙄💩

https://gab.com/GrrrGraphics/posts/109626433487928089

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Paul Ashley's avatar

While I stopped attending my non-denominational men's Bible study group due to their full COVID buy-in, I still get their email updates about prayer needs and, though I suppose this could be due to many being older now, but I notice a LOT more severe illness being reported, especially cancer.

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pyrrhus's avatar

I have a friend who had long been a member of a women's group doing yoga and socializing..They shunned her for refusing the clot-shot (partly due to my advice), and she indignantly quit...She has no use for any of them now...

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Paul Ashley's avatar

When a leader of the Bible study finally contacted me about why I wasn't attending after they decided to start meeting in person again (though still masked), upon hearing that I'd not taken the jab, he said the other members would be "uncomfortable" with that. I know of only one other group member a man, in his nineties, who didn't buy into the scam. These men were by and large businessmen, very decent and devout Christians, and I was sorely disappointed to see their response.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

2 Timothy 1:7

Sorry they weren't very good Christians.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Why were they uncomfortable? The vaccine did not stop infection or transmission. They were uncomfortable with your gamble to accept the possibility of "severe disease?"

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

If it's of any comfort to you; looking at eugyppius' article I was moved to ask my wife for the millionth time... "How is it that you and I could see the nakedly obvious, but 99% of humanity could not?" Medea told me she didn't really know, but that I was more aware than she was beyond her seeing on her own a number of Red Flags... and adding she stopped paying attention to the mainstream media in 2016.. Meanwhile I stopped paying attention to them in 1994 after reading "High Treason: The Assassination of JFK and the Case for Conspiracy": That book was shattering... 🤔

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

For your listening pleasure: An update of the old Simon and Garfunkle standard: "The Sound of Sirens" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw6FKtNmycQ

Speaking of which, the sound of sirens where I live are becoming almost constant...

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JollyLittlePerson's avatar

Thank you for sharing that song, Capt. the song packs a powerful (and infuriating) punch.

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Rosemary B's avatar

oh so sad about your daughter.

Both of My offspring are off and married being mothers and compliant shotters as well. I do not argue and we just do not talk about it. My sister used to work at NIH Bethesda and she has been fully shotted because she decided to "join a study" and she has had so many illnesses. She is always sick or crumbling

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I have a cousin that told me she has gotten the boosters. She is one of the few that talks about it openly. She also tells me that she is often sick, or tired, or both.

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Barekicks's avatar

The professional classes of Bethesda and the DC Metro Area more generally are probably 99.9% true believers. I spent time there in my youth as my father was posted there for work and wow, it is the definition of elitist bubble.

The friends I keep in touch with from that era went all-in on the covid narrative. One of them -- an ob-gyn no less -- was a huge vaccine evangelist and Fauci stan who wouldn't shut up about it on Facebook. We last spoke in February 2021 and the conversation culminated in her calling me a Trumper and saying she couldn't believe I was complaining about lockdown here in the UK (where I live) when "millions are dying".

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Rosemary B's avatar

yes, hubbs and I have received the same despicable babble from the vaccine evangelists, and "obedients"

We do not talk much. Honestly, we do not bring it up with many people because you would be surprised how many believe all of his crap

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

I bet I wouldn't... 😘🙄💩

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Tamenund's avatar

Forget the eczema; with that number of shots, she should be worried about cancer.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

Oh, it's not just the eczema my dear fellow -- which is even on her eyelids -- There was also the sudden personality change, she suddenly became quite hostile towards me and paranoid, accused me to her mother of poisoning her pet rats while they were in my care -- I'd never intentionally harm an animal, and I've only ever been kind to her -- and her menstrual cycle has become more like a hemorrhage, her Mom is ordering special pads from the UK for her, anything like them are not available in North America...

And yes, I'm expecting a turbo cancer to develop... 😱

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

The personality change and hostility are quite likely the result of her knowing that she screwed herself by vaxxing but she's too proud to admit she's wrong.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

This is not going to go well for humanity, Sue...

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

Possibly. The personality change happened almost immediately after the first injection... 🤔

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Tamenund's avatar

I am truly sorry to hear this.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

All of my wife's children (now adults in their late 20s early 30s) have taken at least 3 doses of The Lethal Injection.. while Catherine is hands down the worst off, I think of David and Darya, now the parents of an 18 month old little girl.. so far they seem okay.. But Medea has said several times "I don't expect my children to survive me"...

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I also hear from my family in Belgium, that censorship there is very high. Far as I know, there is not once source in Belgium, and only one or 2 in the Netherlands (I got Frontnieuws) who are telling the truth, albeit in a kind of fear-mongering voice. None of them has heard of any deaths by jab.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Well, they believe that it is "death by Long Covid." If you go on Twitter, those that speak of all the problems due to Long Covid fail to mention their vaccination status. They will constantly argue.."Long Covid existed before the vaccine." I agree, and not only that but it also existed before Covid.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

Of course since we all know they conducted long term large cohort randomized controlled trials since this was so important right? So if you don’t conduct a trial then did anyone die from the injections. If a tree fell in the forest and no one was watching….

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TRM's avatar

To communicate safely and securely we will have to use a peer to peer system like qortal.org as anything going through big tech systems will be compromised.

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Blair's avatar

Ironically or unironically, they cheer for their own enslavement.

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Ann Glover's avatar

My bevy of personal censors moved on a long time ago. Covid is only acknowledged about as much as the average person acknowledges that someone has farted. They all pretend it never happened. No. Instead, they have found fresh vistas in which to villify and condemn my ever-growing scepticism of all fear-mongering narratives. And I'm happy to provide them with endless material - just because I'm bloody-minded and now consider it a grim game. Climate denial is now my chosen conspiracy, with a touch of Covid chucked in whenever the chance lends itself. The nihilists have really stolen a march on us there, and not to be firmly headed off their humanity-hating cliff. They have tried to poison the minds and hopes of my children - they have to be eliminated. This is like a giant game of Go - or as I like to think of it, more like "Go fxxx yourself".

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

You sound like wife material, Ann. Keep fighting!

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Ann Glover's avatar

Oh, you can count on it, Spaceman. It has put me at loggerheads with my entire family. It resulted in one forced jab because of fear of losing everything - job, marriage, children - until I found the rage and strength to start resisting. Not them - but the nascent totalitarianism that is coming down the line. They don't realise that mom is right yet. They will. Love will triumph over lies. It has to.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

Agree about climate change. It's primarily a grift to fleece ordinary people by pricing them out of access to transportation and energy. However, I don't think it is the most pressing conspiracy. That would be mass immigration. The catastrophic effects of importing millions of military age men from the third world will hit us before 'net zero' and other green schemes will.

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Ann Glover's avatar

You can have that one, OHSL. 😂 I can't keep them all in the air. Fortunately, down here at the southern tip of Africa, unchecked immigration is not as pressing a matter. Although, granted, we've dealt with economic immigration from places like Zimbabwe and DRC for decades. Recently, our soon-to-be new colonialist masters, the Chinese, have also been finding our sunny shores (and mineral deposits, no doubt) very appealing. I speak with not a small bit of irony and humility, as am a product of prior colonial oppressors myself - so there's that....

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

SA? Damn. Based on what I read, you've got WAY bigger problems than covid tyranny, climate change, or our immigration problems.

I'll know more soon. Decided to start listening to a bunch of back episodes of Conscious Caracal's podcast.

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Ann Glover's avatar

Yup! I mean, look, it could be much worse. We could be staring down a globalist tyrannical takeover by shadowy predatory elites and a worldwide inversion of democracy through the nefarious activities of an avaricious military-industrial-pharmaceutical-censorship complex.

It could be so much worse. Oh, hang on... 😆

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Danno's avatar

I know a couple of people who are having erratic immune responses which defy diagnosis. Now they're worried that maybe it was the mRNA therapy, and are resentful that they got coerced.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Same as my experiences. If we can see it, why can’t they?! After being disgusted for almost four years, I’ve given up on people.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

I demand they where masks around me because they must protect my grandma because you never know

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CMCM's avatar

I know more than a few people who firmly believe that every word, every report, every opinion to come out of NPR is the absolute, unvarnished, gospel truth, and because of this they don't question anything. They simply cannot conceive of NPR being biased. It's quite amazing to see such abject naivté.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I used to be one of them. Experiencing such a paradigm shift makes the phrase "the scales fell from my eyes" feel like the literal truth.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

We can not let them write history.

That is the objective. It is the best form of accountability....long-term.

That's why they've redacted all this material.

One bite of the elephant of lies at a time.

That's the best were going to do. Just another joyless victory. Victory nonetheless.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

several Substackers are planning to bundle their posts. I think Mark Oshinskie is about to publish his. I hope you will do too Eugyppius. And there are several books already published, I got half a dozen (might never read them one gets fed up with the truth too LOL)

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Light bulb moment.

Perhaps there's a financially independent (damn sure not me) that might step in, round up a number of these Stack authors columns (including comments) and publish as a tome, including audio.

I've got my list of Stack columns to suggest.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It would be cool to get an aggregate of a number of different perspectives of "The time of Covid."

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

this needs to be posted on as many Substacks as possible ! Great Idea Owain !

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

They can redact the information, but they can't redact reality.

And those that are living it, know the truth...by what they keep hidden.

Go on twitter, and they speak about Long Covid early and often, and do not mention vaccination status. Nor do you ever hear them say "I still or contracted Long Covid even after the vaccine." They don't say these things because they fear the truth even as they know it.

There is no victory here.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

I despair of humanity, Dr. K. If you were to slam a baseball bat across the back of their granite skulls to pound some sense into them you'd only have a broken bat for your trouble.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The power of propaganda.

Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the perceived truth

Josef Goebbels

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

both Sharyl Attkisson and Mark Crispin Miller have excellent videos on propaganda, the one from Attkisson is about 8 years old but still very up to date.

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Dr. K's avatar

Even my Louisville Slugger? Oh my...I value that bat. Tough choices...

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

Keep your Louisville Slugger in a place of sanctity. Treasure it. 😘

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

And if you need it, label to back...

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Tardigrade's avatar

Aluminum bats are good for something ;)

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Propping open a door...

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

You'd only bend it... 🙄

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James Dawson's avatar

A dent maybe.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Brute force will not work. The propaganda has a built in shield to protect against it being adulterated by the truth. In this case, any dissent is seen as "dangerous misinformation." If you did a poll, I wonder what would be the percentage of those who believed the narrative who block/hide/unfollow other people vs. those that do not. Notwithstanding abuse and harassment, I imagine those that believe the narrative are far more likely to censor and block than those who disagree with the narrative and also seem "shocklingly" to agree with freedom of speech.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

Despite brave words on Substack -- alas, I fear this forum is little more than an echo chamber -- I'd hazard at least 95% of humanity remain trapped in Big Pharma's Matrix, there's no reaching them. 🙄

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I just don't know. I have heard the 95% number a couple times now. If you go on twitter, it seems less than that, but again, that is a small sampling of the population and could be mired with bots on both sides. The only way to know for sure is to go out into the world.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

That's why I live like hermit, avoiding human interaction as much as possible... 🤔

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Mitch Barrie's avatar

The redacted American releases have always disturbed me, but what disturbs me far more is this simple question:

Is there no one in the American journalistic establishment -- not a single reporter -- with the least curiosity about the redacted content and why it was suppressed? Anyone?

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

There are. Tucker Carlson, Jeff Tucker, Sasha Stone quickly come to mind. I suspect they are digging. I know, gov't is resisting.

But I think you meant reporters/reporting establishments that most of the public tunes into, the 'nightly news'. There the answer is no. Most are part and parcel of the global, noxious MSM.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I know, right?! But then again they can't even ask the most basic of questions about the Ukraine conflict....

Like what would Russia look like post-Putin?

Expecting journalists to report facts about people they run around with or who line their pockets, is like expecting a 3 year old to snitch on the Cookie Monster for stealing them cookies.

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Capt. Roy Harkness's avatar

There's a reason Mitch, some of us call it "The Lying Whore Media"... 🤔

But one really should not cast such aspersion on prostitutes, these good women after all provide an essential service under often degrading and occasionally very dangerous circumstances. You can say no such thing about journalists, who have only to offer a slurry comprised of toxic waste and raw sewage, with at best a 5% content of useful information -- but usually not even that... 🙄💩

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SaHiB's avatar

Can they not be prosecuted for contempt of court?

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

"State secrets" remain hidden "for our own 'protection.' "

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SaHiB's avatar

With required oaths and perjury confessions, they've bamboozled the plebs into believing we be they. You volunteer for the Army once. After that, you're a "volunteer" when your sergeant says you are.

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Blair's avatar

Yep. They love us and want to protect us. That's why they want to censor us.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

I would laugh if the situation were not so absurd and oppressive.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lolol. Omg

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I don’t think *anything* will ‘capture the attention of the masses’. No one I know, with the exception of one sister and one brother, is willing to even acknowledge what has happened. They’re all in total denial. The final straw for me was when my brother died of turbo cancer and not one family member or friend even brought up the possibility of it being caused by the fact he was bamboozled into getting two C19 injections. If I can see it, why can’t others? To Hell with them.

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OUTRAGED HUMAN's avatar

The biggest problem is that they injected microbubbles, which can explode with ultrasound. It's just technology, but when they start pulsing with that ultrasound and people start bleeding, there's gonna be another pandemic of fear and a new round of what's already been, only more brutal.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I am middle-aged and morbidly obese. Never underestimate that alone as cause for sudden death. Chris Farley, John Candy. and evidence. How many of us morbidly obese do you see in their eighties? Did the friend drink? Smoke? Live a sedentary life?

I'm not saying that the vaccine did not play a role, or made things far worse, just understand the context. And did you know whether or not this friend had been vaccinated?

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Tardigrade's avatar

'Covid risk: At multiple points, the RKI acknowledges that Covid was far less dangerous than they publicly allowed.'

This is timely, because in the US the lawsuit of several doctors and others against the US government for censorship includes Jay Battacharya, who was censored and demonized for a study he did with John Ioannidis at Stanford which essentially showed the infection fatality rate (IFR) had been greatly overstated.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I've been digging into PCR testing again as of late, and watched a PBS interview with the inventor. I'm even less sure now that the PCR test accurately assessed "Covid" at all. Is the PCR tested "genetic material" even Covid specific since the virus was not isolated and purified? Have generic sequences been run on all the microorganisms in our body to determine that the genetic sequence of Covid does not exist in other organisms? And I am the one constantly being accused of having Dunning Kruger.

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Tardigrade's avatar

If you mean Kary Mullis, yes, he warned that PCR wasn't appropriate for diagnosing. Unfortunately he died in 2019, so we'll never know what he would've said about how his technology was put to use. I bet it would have been pithy.

His autobiography "Dancing Naked in the Mind Field" is a great read. Much better than his Wikipedia entry, which glories in cataloging every eccentric behavior in order to discredit him. I wish I knew who was responsible for this summary at the top of the page of DuckDuckGo search results: "American biochemist, Nobel Prize winner, AIDS denialist, climate change denialist." At least they mention the Nobel prize.

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Richard Seager's avatar

The billionaires who own duckduckgo.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Yeah, I'm open to an alternative. It's still better than Google, but like everything else it's slipping into the morass.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I think it slipped into the morass on raising. I never use it and when I crtiiqued it on Twitter many years ago the main guy got on my tail and made what I considered a few threats to me.

What else is there? Qwant is under French control but doesn’t work in Russia, Startpage is supposedly Netherlands based. Yandex just seems to be Google Russia Inc. And of course there’s Bing & Baidu also both untrustworthy.. Like you I’m open to an alternative.

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Tardigrade's avatar

In the meantime, I recently did a comparison search between DuckDuckGo and Google and some political issue or other, or maybe Covid. The Google results were obviously more highly censored.

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Clark's avatar

I think you meant to say, "I'm even less sure now that the PCR test accurately assessed 'Covid' at all." The double negatives in your sentence grammatically means that you are less sure the tests are inaccurate.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You are correct. I have changed it.

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Tardigrade's avatar

The study in question did not use PCR which, as you point out, has a lot of problems.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Which study was this?

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Tardigrade's avatar

"COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California" https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2020/04/30/2020.04.14.20062463.full.pdf. The study showed that the infection rate was actually many times greater than officially acknowledged, which made the infection fatality rate much lower.

Here's one article about the controversy: "John Ioannidis and Medical Tribalism in the Era of Covid-19" https://undark.org/2020/06/11/john-ioannidis-politicization/

And another, with a greater emphasis on suppression of the research: "Dr. Jay Bhattacharya Reveals Stanford University’s Attempts To Derail COVID Studies" https://www.jospi.org/article/88046-dr-jay-bhattacharya-reveals-stanford-university-s-attempts-to-derail-covid-studies

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Oh yes, the seroprevalence data. Thing is, is that data even reliable? Because as stated elsewhere...the virus was never actually isolated and purified.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Which doesn't really matter in the current context, which is the censorship issue.

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Richard Seager's avatar

By an infinite amount.

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Tardigrade's avatar

22x.

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Rikard's avatar

Or in other words: we who said "Hang on, this seems weird" were right.

On all accounts, it seems.

Now, I want to know why we shouldn't point out that the Covid-measures and mRNA-injections will likely cause (or have already caused) more deaths than the Holocaust.

It is high time business-leaders, CEOs et cetera are taken to task for their part in this affair, not just their bought&sold politician stooges.

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SCA's avatar

They managed, one way or another, to ensure everyone in authority anywhere was complicit. The entire educated class who run things everywhere, down to PTAs and volunteers in every sort of youth organization, willingly sacrificed their own and the neighbors' children to this idiocy.

And even skeptics about the whole stinking shebang can be found jumping in to defend their own particular mom friends who "did the best they could."

This is how you make sure everyone has a stake in suppressing very early data showing that enough was known--or peculiar or irrational or against all common sense--to give anyone good reason to doubt.

If we don't make coalitions on this one issue with people we otherwise despise for every sort of reason, there will not be a critical mass to call every person of authority to account.

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Rikard's avatar

People think the Nuremberg trials entailed hauling off the nazis to court and then hanging them.

In reality, the top dozen or so were executed. Of the scientists, engineers and researchers, most were "recruited" by the US, USSR and Britain and were paid handsomely for their services, in some cases even decorated with medals by presidents.

The bureaucrats, administrators and so on that kept the whole thing going replaced the pictures of Der Führer or Speer or some other leader with ones of their new boss, and got back to work. Including the military, the police and the secret police.

After all, keeping tabs on "enemies of the state" is what it is, methods-wise. The only difference between the Okhhrana and the KGB or Gestapo and Stasi, et cetera, is who the bosses say are the enemies of the state.

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SCA's avatar

Imagine my surprise, first learning that a long time ago.

And there's always a new "threat" which makes all the unsavory things necessary to sell to the public.

Whenever a new big-studio film comes out about any of the wars before, say, the Korean one, I know they're softening the populace up for "war is awful but..."

And it's amazing, the sorts of people who fall for it. Some of 'em think they're too smart to be propagandized.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

What you are describing is standard issue for any regime change if you don't exterminate or exile the former ruling class.

The real significance of Nuremberg was that it was a ritual initiating the permanent proscription of any sort of political right wing in the world. Fascism was a technical managerial state system, like communism and liberal democracy, but it was the only 20th century modern form of gov't that contained any elements of nationalism, traditionalism, and group ethnic identity. These elements were obstacles to developing global totalitarian systems in which humans are completely atomized, deracinated cogs in government/economic machines. They had to be squashed with extreme prejudice. Nazis had to be turned into the devils of a new religion/mythology.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

like Sasha Latypova said in the interview with Dr Malik, we have to start cutting at the bottom. The nurses, doctors, pharmacists, who knowingly injected people with the poison (or 'were just following orders') and killing them in hospitals. The hospitals who got millions for diagnosing people and then murdering them for money. Then the higher up. And finally the orchestrators and the bosses... I hope to live to find out who were the people holding the strings but I am not holding my breath.

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Bill Resner's avatar

You would start at the bottom to get testimony from the bottom to implicate the top.

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Rikard's avatar

Same principle as when felling a tree.

But the heavy work isn't cutting through the bole, it's cleaning off the branches and the bark and cutting the tree into right-sized logs.

Alternatively, if the tree must be saved - some pruning is essential.

Metaphor and simile, the refuge from saying actionable things.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Actually that's a perfect metaphor Rikard.

Thx. Bravo

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Rikard's avatar

Well, I've always liked that saying about the tree of liberty needing watering.

It's only plagiarism if it's for money, otherwise it's called inspiration! ;)

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baker charlie's avatar

In the rush to make sure advancement in scholarship, law and culture no longer the provenance of the supposed 'elite' (formerly known as people who showed up to class) they are trying to destroy the legitimacy of the apparatus that certifies professionals.

I sense advantage for the intrepid. They are dissolving their own rules to accomodate their distortions. . There's got to be some kind of advantage for attack there.

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Rikard's avatar

There is an attack ongoing already, but it is not from within or from our culture, trying to right the ship.

The attack is coming from two prongs, independent of each other:

>Islamisation of society. One truth, one thought, one right, one way, surety and security in thought - which to increasing numbers of westerners (especially younger people) is attractive because islam appears better than the postmodernism, the relativism and nihilism they have been exposed to all their lives. That they as dhimmi will always be slaves, at best second class citizens, in an islamic state, is something they don't understand.

>China is waging culture war on the West via infiltration of companies oand political parties as well as media and academia. Not just via extortion and blackmail (criticising China equals problems for companies from the nation voicing the criticism) but by pumping out a narrative of China being clean, well-ordered, and highly functional compared to a dirty, corrupt and chaotic West.

Since we have no real nationalism, no real patriotism and no real will to fight (since police and military are fully co-opted by globalist corporatists) on any scale that matters, odds are that the majority of people in western nations will clamour for "chinese-ification" of our nations, into fully integrated corporate states, with islamisation (which is real and a real danger) being used as a bogeyman to get real support.

Pretty much the worst-case scenario laid out by Samuel P. Huntington in his critique of the neo-liberal/neo-con ideas of the George W. Bush White House who adopted the "End of history"-hypothesis as objective truth.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

"They are dissolving their own rules to accomodate their distortions"

Exactly this

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SCA's avatar

It's doubtful of course, considering human history and the continuing devotion to lies, but perhaps people will start to understand that scientists are not inherently noble people. They are mostly just big boys who when little boys were interested in poking at unfortunate living beings they could catch and torment, and they are more than happy to be court apparatchiks because that's where the money is.

Only we can save us and the odds ain't so great because idiocy is everywhere. But we can and should keep trying.

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SaHiB's avatar

Meretriciousness is not science!

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SCA's avatar

Maybe science ain't science, neither.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Well, "the science" is definitely not scientific.

"If the theory does not agree with the empirical evidence, then the theory must be scrapped" Richard Feynman

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SCA's avatar

My point precisely.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Covid-19 should not be compared with influenza, because normal influenza waves kill more people

This sentence got many people banned from social media! What a hoot. It is very obvious, if it were not already, that govts knew this was all a smoke curtain. But who operated the smoke machine? The DoD?

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Sam's avatar

Funny then how we still don’t need to protect grandma from the flu. How come no one is questioning that?

🤡

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

because the flu jab is just as useless! this was obviously something way different than a health emergency. I hope everyone will soon wake up to the uselessness of all jabs.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I’ve been making comments like this about the flu for years now. Never get any response other than silence and blank stares.

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Sam's avatar

Yep and we never told kids that they killed grandma by giving her the flu. Gawd how many kids are traumatized by thinking they gave her Covid?

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Barekicks's avatar

What about the sentence in the document "but covid is worrying for other reasons"? What are they alluding to here? The whole GoF thing?

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Stuffysays's avatar

But why? Why did governments want to do all this? They clearly didn't believe it was a biblical plague - they all carried on privately singing and dancing. So why did they all agree to do it all? My husband was of the opinion that the world economy was heading for the daddy of all crashes and the covid plague gave them an excuse. I don't know - is it crashing?

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eugyppius's avatar

Well, the release is only half-illuminating on this point. The public health managers of the RKI were responding the entire time, it seems, to higher, external political pressure.

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

Nothing that happened back then makes any sense, except in light of the idea that all these people had a haunting suspicion this virus escaped from a lab.

If you accept that all these people had this idea in their head, but none were supposed to say it out loud and some like Merkel were apparently hoping the CCP would just admit what had happened, suddenly all the puzzle pieces fall into place.

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Pål-Henrik Hagen's avatar

Not all the puzzle pieces, but some, I would say. There was angst about the mutant lab virus, but still there was available info on How it was behaving and what damage it actually did, and this could and should have tempered anxiety.

I think another underestimated factor is how regular people in fact wanted and demanded restrictions. There would have been an uproar with protests requiring action. And failure to impose restrictions would have led to the authorities getting blamed for every case and death. With their charade of Action - we’re doing something! - then all blame could be placed on the non-compliant.

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

>I think another underestimated factor is how regular people in fact wanted and demanded restrictions.

Correct. That's the other inconvenient truth. It's comforting to think there are "WEF Satanic elites" who want to force vaccinate you and lock you up at home. It's a much more painful realization, when you find out that it's your neighbors.

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Vxi7's avatar

A very few people demanded action. The majority could have been calmed very easily. It was definitely pushed on the masses.

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Barekicks's avatar

But why would the CCP take full blame when GoF was a collaboration between Western scientists, middlemen funding entities like Eco health Alliance (working on behalf of defence /military/intelligence interests), and Chinese virology labs?

Either they all go down, or they all cover for one another, and it's clear which route was chosen.

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Vxi7's avatar

All puzzles fall in places when you exchange everything with killing off population.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

China thought they were being attacked with a bioweapon.

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Andi West's avatar

Here is my hypothesis on their motivation to do this now... https://open.substack.com/pub/blastedreality/p/why-oh-why-did-the-iatrogenocided?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

At least the top guys and the rest just think they are earning their place at the extended happy hour club.

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Suzie's avatar

And it seems in coordination with other nation’s governments, like the UK and the US.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

GIANT SUCKING SOUND OF WEALTH TRANSFER

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

you just can hear the whoosh...

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup...and I was a forced contributer

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James Dawson's avatar

Who else was continually cold called/emailed about the greatest transfer of wealth in human history before this entire hoax was perpetrated?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Gosh...I don't know if you're talking about someone in particular...but I felt like I did everything I could.

I'm sure you did too James based on other comments of yours I've read.

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James Dawson's avatar

I’m sorry Ryan, I feel like we may have crossed wires here. I was asking if anyone else had been getting messages about “protecting their wealth”…

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

No I know. No reason to apologize at all.

Cheers James!

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Western governments have been infiltrated by zionist agents to carry out their plan of world domination. Turdoh, Macaroni and sergeant Sholtz, for example. President Joe Biden admits he is a zionist.

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

How did Eugyppius end up with so many low IQ low status white males commenting on his blog?

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Rikard's avatar

How can you deduce someone's sex and pigmentation from their comments?

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FasterThanLight7's avatar

Why do you spread anti White bs like a media trained NPC?

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Racist comment.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Me Tarzan, you Cheeta :-)

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

👍^2

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working rich's avatar

A chance to exercise power and KONTROL.

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SaHiB's avatar

They want to kill the plebs so they can take it all away.

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Sam's avatar

It was, but now it’s been postponed. But it’s still coming… Lots of people were warning about it crash hitting in late 2019.

Did you notice how many big businesses took out loans that they might not have had to pay back? The loans that were meant for small businesses..

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Larry's avatar

One popular theory in the US is that it allowed the left to ram through changes to election procedures to minimize in-person voting, and maximize fraud-prone mail balloting, resulting in an easily–stolen election. Belief in this theory varies, depending on how well you believe that the left can plan anything that clever and that far in advance without suffering unintended consequences.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They plan by being in lockstep and complete hegemony.

At least that's the case in America

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

All that was just a distraction. The Dominion voting machines were connected to the internet.

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M3AG's avatar

The worst thing is that nothing will come of this, and nothing will come of the still greater revelations likely to follow either."

Eugypius, you are so right. I am saddened and disgusted by that; and can only pray that, in ways that are unknown to us mere mortals, these people will have their karma.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Regarding the completely redacted document, as well as the similar one in the US. Do these agencies that release these redacted documents have any explanation of why it's so thoroughly redacted, rather than just personal information? Surely they realize that such heavy redactions will only increase suspicion and decrease trust—which leads to the inescapable conclusion that whatever's in there would be even worse for them were it to become public.

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eugyppius's avatar

They're required to explain the legal ground for every redaction. This release was accompanied by a 1,000-page document explaining them all. Somebody with a vast amount of time could probably arrive at some interesting conclusions comparing the redactions to their justifications.

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Rikard's avatar

Can't the decision to redact material be demanded made available under FOIA in Germany, and therefore the decision to redact material challenge?

Here in Sweden, we can do that (though good luck if it's a political issue, such as Nordstream or the sinking of m/s Estonia).

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eugyppius's avatar

yes, but it is a separate legal fight. springer have already sued to have the unredacted files released

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Usamnesia's avatar

Apologies, off topic but germane to Nordstream...WTF is the deal with Sweden saying it lacked jurisdiction in the case but had handed evidence it had uncovered over to German investigators?

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Rikard's avatar

This is how it roughly went, as far as I can make out since the entire thing is under secrecy:

When NS was blown, a swedish prosecutor was selected by our politically appointed head of the prosecutor's office (all heads of civil services are directly appointed by the governement/parliament - it's whole process, too intricate to go into here). Said prosecutor then proceeded to claim jurisdiction to be able to gather evidence at the site and keep media away; an active crime scene is off limits to media, and when it's suspected terrorism even more so.

The site was then cleaned, and the prosecutor in Sweden investigated and collated, producing a classified report handed over to governement officials with clearence (which doesn't include the PM).

Sweden was in a critical phase of joining NATO. Hungary and Turkey opposed this on various grounds, and Sweden's governement had bet the house on us joining before the next election. Therefore, we needed the US to lean on Hungary and Turkey a little, which they did.

Part of this meant handing over all evidence and conclusions to Germany - not the US directly as that would be far too obvious. The germans being firmly under US rule could be relied upon not to leak anything definite, and could disappear or further classify as secret any material received from Sweden.

I think that by now, any physical evidence has been destroyed or "lost". To the US it doesn't matter as long as no definite evidence appears: lost or destroyed while we speculate and accuse serves their propaganda/media just fine, since it creates division and makes it possible to claim critics not "on message" are working for the enemy, or are useful idiots.

Very telling here in Sweden is the total media silence. Normally, papers opposing the incumbent governement would try to embarass them by publishing - at least - pointed speculation and veiled accusations. But on this - total silence, except the free press not aligned with any political parties (all our major papers are at least partly, sometimes by legal proxies, owned by political parties or by people fully in bed with some party or other).

The total silence tells me that there's something to be silent about.

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Usamnesia's avatar

Thank you very much. As the expression says”you don’t have to committ the perfect crime…just be in charge of the investigation that follows. It still astonished me how the incident is such an overt act of hostility without retaliation. Perhaps this most recent event in Moscow will provoke a response.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

FOIA has become a farce.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

I can only imagine that everyone shares the same opinion - what are they hiding? If everything was above board then the only thing to redact would be personal info.

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Vxi7's avatar

I think it's beyond ridiculous that you have to file for an FOIA to get information in the first place. These policies and actions by our 'betters' should be publicly available at any time. It's even more ridiculous that anything is redacted.

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Tardigrade's avatar

In most governments, "transparency" is a joke, despite receiving pious lip service.

Meanwhile, here in Utah: "Utah lawmakers passed new legislation to hide their official duties from the public: Lawmakers passed numerous bills during the 2024 legislature session to make elected officials’ information more private and to keep more of their public business a secret."

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2024/03/06/utah-legislature-casts-shadow-over/

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Hubris. They don’t have to care about it.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I think it's more CYA. Don't get me wrong, I ascribe vast amounts of hubris to these people also :)

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

The revolution will be redacted. Netflix will not make a sequel of Ordinary Men. NPCs will continue to follow the science and the government, yelling at those of us who question anything. Progress!

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Dave’s Not Here's avatar

What comes of this revelation is that we are fully vindicated in our early skepticism! Knowing we were right all along confirms our confidence in our innate ability to make sound decisions. We knew and we were right. Let others follow silly science but we won’t, we didn’t then and we won’t later. Yes, there were consequences, but they were worth our refusal to take the jabs. Freedom is never free, yet worth the price.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Yeah, I know.

But so far, "conspiracy theorists", are arguably, batting 1.000.

Go figure...

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Prodigal's avatar

Never mind the Bundesverdienstkreuz, a new German order of merit should be created just for this team at Multipolar.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The only voice of reason in German politics is Sahra Wagenknecht.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Yep. The Worst Thing is we all know nothing will happen to those who committed the frauds and crimes.

We all know this because we all now know that every important "truth-seeking" organization in the world is completely captured.

These people and organizations aren't going to suddenly become genuine truth-seekers and "uncaptured" just because all their claims were proven to be spectacularly wrong.

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Charlotte's avatar

And they haven’t started with the protocols in the hospitals that left so many dead. I posted below John Beaudoin Sr talking about this triangulation of data, power and deceit centering on the states of NY,NJ and MA. The deaths skewed the perception of the danger of covid and left others in further panic. Covid is a real virus but, as they admit in the German release, it was less deadly than the flu. People need to be put in prison, or this will happen again. I’m disappointed in Germany, I always was under the belief that they put financial crime as being more serious than violent crime (see Steffi Graff father case), and Covid and all things covid touch on financial crime. So they should be handing out jail sentences. Many instances of abject fraud.

https://twitter.com/adnanbelushi/status/1771465351416729908

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Starting with Albert Bourla.

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Ashmedai's avatar

Boy makes you wonder what's in the redacted sections if this is the unredacted part

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

What's in there is what brings out the blow torches and pliers

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Prodigal's avatar

Yes exactly right, Eugyppius ... the worst of it all is we will not see the International Court of Justice hear the case "The People of Planet Earth vs. the Cowardly Careerists of RKI". Zero skin in the game. Where is Hammurabi of Babylon when you need him?

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