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Vivian Evans's avatar

Well, since the German voters in MV and B want red-deep-red-green coloured socialism, let them have it and deal with the consequences. I'm sick of the wails by the assorted 'experts' in politics and the MSM - be it in Germany, be it here in the Yookay. For over twenty years the warners of an increase in ;guests' and 'poor refugees' from islamic countries have warned what would happen. Now, too late, they notice and wail - and some think socialism is the answer. Funny, innit, how the 'bad' countries, formerly communist and now a strong mixture of socialism and capitalism, have been able to deal with those intruders bent on conquering the world and defeating the infidels ... but instead f learning from their formerly Big Bros, the piddling Red Uniparty in Germany and the equally piddling so-called 'Labour' party in the Yookay they embrace those bent on destruction, in order to keep their trotters firmly in the trough.

Yeah, let them wail - and if all else fails, "we" all can embrace WWIII, given the ever louder war drums banged by other 'experts'.

'Interesting times' and all that jazz, innit like ...

Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: since the German voters in MV and B want red-deep-red-green coloured socialism, let them have it ...

H.L Mencken observed long ago: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Vivian Evans's avatar

Excellent quote - and the MV ands B people will indeed now get it good and hard. Their cries of 'but we didn't know' or 'nobody told us' isn't working any longer.

Feldheld's avatar

Muslims overwhelmingly vote far left. The left is literally the asshole of the west through which Islam penetrates us.

Mark Bob's avatar

It does appear to be this way. The true believers in the far left are so mentally and intellectually disabled and disaffected that they cannot see that people that hate everything they stand for are using them. Hence transists chanting “From the river to the sea” etc.

Henrybowman's avatar

The problem is way more widespread than that. Anyone who adopts a fantasy-based worldview as truth ("I'm a woman because I say so") sets himself up to be arbitraged savagely by reality -- or even by someone else's opposing fantasy-based worldview, which must be accepted as just as valid as his own.

So woke feminists find themselves canceled as TERFS by even woker transes; the women's basketball league finds itself legally at risk of huge payouts for accepting the transes they "like" while rejecting those they don't; the Democratic Party, having imported nations worth of third-world s*holes as new voters to guarantee their eternal control of the government, find those voters now kicking them out of the control of their own party; blacks who assumed all their lives that the government owes them a living are terrified to learn that next year's slush money has already been allocated to third-world immigrants.

Left to their own consequences all fantasy-based worldviews eventually implode. The problem is that they almost always leave orders of magnitude more innocent victims in the blast zone.

Rikard's avatar

That's an apt summary and analysis. I can give an example from here:

In our election-system, you can write or check the name of a candidate you want to see take a seat in local, regional and national assembly/parliament, respectively.

It was originally implemented as a token gesture towards actual demoocracy over thirty years ago, by the Socialist Deocrat party, and has never really mattered.

Not until this election, that is.

In several local and two regional circuits, clan-voting as it is called has meant that in one circuit, the Green Party's pre-selected choice as representative lost to moslems checking the box of the salafist choice of the most influential moslem clans in that circuit, and in a regional circuit the pick of the Communist party lost her seat to a Somali man that joined the arty just a few months ago. But in the circuit that's the most important one in that region, there's a whole neighbourhood of Somalis all voting along racial/clannish lines.

Now, the Greens and the Commies are scrambling to a) try to buy off the the non-Whites that have "taken their seats" and b) explain why voting along clannish/racial lines is a bad thing and a Right-wing extremist conspiracy theory - at the same time.

The pet Negros and assorted other poor widdle non-Aryans the Greens and Commies have allowed to invade and colonise is starting to bite Master's hand. Woopsie.

la chevalerie vit's avatar

There are so many entrenched fantasy-based worldviewers that their implosion is going to take us down or have a high degree of collateral damage. Seems the only way to get rid is for them to rule us into oblivion and self-destruct in the process, being discredited for generations to come. Still, let the hard times come so our children will benefit. Ofc I’d prefer them to just agree how wrong they are and stand down so we can avoid the trauma.

Henrybowman's avatar

"Seems the only way to get rid is for them to rule us into oblivion and self-destruct in the process, being discredited for generations to come."

You've got to be kidding. That would require an attention span longer than a goldfish's, and the capacity to feel shame.

In my lifetime, I can count seven major communist/socialist tyrannies that terrorized their own populations and were responsible for more democide in the 20th century than all other sources combined. At least three of them are still operating (PRC, NK, Cuba), so the problem isn't even one of a short memory.

Henrybowman's avatar

I'm stealing this.

Patrick  Clarke's avatar

Your comment was "verboten" here on age grounds until I logged in. "Online safety" etc

SCA's avatar

Oh God oh God oh God. What we have lived to see. I guess rough though with the worst guys coalitioning together. But Merz gonna need a lot of Pepto-Bismol.

Quakeress's avatar

His own people should be busy finding out how to topple him, since he's certainly not going to step down. On the other hand, they might not, knowing that there is nobody as charismatic as poor Fritze.

SCA's avatar

Who knew that the inheritors of the realms from which some of the most vigorous and influential thinkers who gave us the Western Enlightenment came would be such gormless mediocrities?

JPC's avatar

Those world wars gutted the best of the young people.

And the consequences are now fully existent,??

SCA's avatar

When I was a kid I had an anthology of short stories that included a piece by Saki (H.H. Munro) who immediately became one of my favorite authors, and a few years later I learned he'd been killed in WWI, and of course you get to HS and even more names you encounter were killed in the world wars or had their lives destroyed by them, one way or the other, and you do start to realize how much value was taken out of the world for nothing.

SCA's avatar

This obviously can't be quite as thrilling for me as the moment when PA was called for Trump in 2024, but considering what we've all endured since we started gathering here in our host's parlor, each of us with terrible stories of our own or about people we love dearly, and the general suffering our societies have experienced because of so many malign, or clueless, or malignantly clueless politicians and the people who support them for all the worst, most venal and wretched reasons--this is very exciting!

Tardigrade's avatar

Pardon my ignorance, but from those first charts, I get the distinct impression that Berlin is like the California of Germany?

jan van ruth's avatar

berlin also is the city with the second largest turkish population in the world, second only to istanbul...

hoppah's avatar

Why did Constantinople get the works?

Carl Jón Denbow's avatar

It’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

alewifey's avatar

It's like any other international mega-city in the west. More like NYC than anywhere in cali.

Xylourgos's avatar

No, the NYC Mamdani of Germany

Dave S's avatar

Like so many big cities, almost always left. Even Munich in the heart of CSU land is SPD.

Quakeress's avatar

In fact, it's much, much, much worse. I felt there was intense sh*tholification going on when I was there the last time, which was years ago. I've never felt the urge to return.

Henrybowman's avatar

Large cities are invariably blue (using the US color code).

In the USA, the top 50 cities (by population) boast among them only seven Republican mayors, the largest being Dallas at #10.

SCA's avatar

Berlin is where last winter they couldn't keep the sidewalks clear of ice and old people were breaking their bones in considerable numbers.

lizzy36's avatar

Which is going to be a much larger problem for 2026/2027 winter.

There is no diseal fuel (Houthi's blew up the Saudi East-West pipeline).

EU natural gas storage is 60% full. Nornal is >90%

TFF is trading back at levels not seen since 2022/2023 (start of UKR & RUS war) and it is September.

Stupidly the EU is cutting off all Russian natural gas supplies starting January 1, 2027.

I don't know why Ursala Von ding-dong or anyone else of political signficane in the EU or EZ is talking abour A.I since the EU lack's the enerygy infastructure to survive the winter of 2026/2027.

Currently, the utter failure of EU immigration policy is causing the backlash against status-quo politics. In about 2 weeks it will be the price of diesel gas (that is not hyperboble). Then the utter horror of the failure of EU wide energy policy (France's nuclear energy is not a replacement for diseal gas) is going to be a disaster that was forseeable and unimaginable and thus the final nail in the EU's coffin.

Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

U mean

- considerable numbers of people or

- considerable numbers of bones ??? ... 🤔🤔🤔

SCA's avatar

Both I think. If you're going down your wrists and your ankles are equally in peril. Of course for old people especially we've got to worry about hips and long bones too.

Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Isometric strengh training helps; but it's not for everyone.

Tardigrade's avatar

The former implies the latter.

Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

U mean

- considerable numbers of bones in single individuals as well as

- considerable numbers of individuals ??? ... 🤔🤔🤔

That would be the sad result of an aging demographic merging with a city-council that doesn't really care ...

FLR's avatar

What is really frightening is that 46% vote for outright communist parties and the old DDR party is the largest of all. The SPD is more and more becoming a commie party so now we are approaching 60%.

Ray Noack's avatar

In the 1920’s it was well known that “ Berlin means Boys “

The movie Cabaret .

It is a cesspool of perversion

Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Not exactly ...

They get far more rain ...

🤣🤣🤣

Patrick  Clarke's avatar

I wish you a very enjoyable dinner.

Suzie's avatar

This will probably be the nail in Merz’s coffin as Chancellor, although that will end up more like rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.

The truly scary thing is, whenever the Left gets their hands on power like this, they’re going to milk it for all it’s worth. Things are going to get even more seriously bumpy in the ‘Fatherland’, I fear.

Suzie's avatar

P.S. thank you for the update!

Quakeress's avatar

So we'll have another round of politicans attempting to "explain" their policies "better" to the electorate. Yay.

JPC's avatar

And the electorate explaining at the polls we're done listening to this condescending rubbish.

Quakeress's avatar

And the political class unable to grasp that many of the points the electorate are making are valid and legitimate.

JPC's avatar

No matter where we live in euro land.

The determination to ignore the electorate is absolute.

All that matters is edicts from Brussels.

Larry the Leper's avatar

Will there come a point at which the penny drops for the Union parties and they begin to understand that their wonderful Brandmauer is a device for keeping the multi-party left in power and emasculating them? Every electoral iteration makes the AfD stronger and the CDU/CSU weaker.

Mitch Barrie's avatar

Of course there will. The problem is no one wants to be the first to cross the aisle.

C. L. H. Daniels's avatar

That’s the real question; how long can the characteristically German pig-headedness of the CDU last in the face of reality?

One imagines that they already recognize that the brandmauer spells political death for them, but this knowledge is presently warring with their pathological need to preserve their morally pure self-image by refusing to sully their hands in partnership with those uncouth “far right” people. Perhaps in the end they’d prefer to die with a whimper than compromise their foolish ideals.

Andrew Marsh's avatar

Thank you for updating us with the news. Merz..... sunk, sunk, sunk.

Dave S's avatar

BlackRock Merz!

Tareq I. Albaho, PhD's avatar

Bon apetit. Surmise Herr Merz will not have much of an apetite for dinner this evening.

Latz51's avatar

What is the deal with Muslims voting? Do refugees or asylum seekers get to vote in the jurisdictions where they are situated? Do non German citizens vote? What is the process to become a German citizen? Do they take an oath of allegiance?

Green Duck's avatar

Only German nationals vote in federal and state elections. (EU nationals, which the vast majority of asylum seekers are not, can vote in some municipal elections.) Naturalization requires five years of legal residency, financial self-sufficiency and no criminal record: https://www.einbürgerung.de/fragebogen.php?l=en

Mitch Barrie's avatar

Aren't exit polls likely to undercount the AfD vote, as people are reluctant to tell pollsters they voted "ultra right?" This was a contributor to so many pollsters getting the Trump victories wrong.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I second the wishes for a lovely dinner, and give a toast for the sinking ship. A bottle, even!

Vivian Evans's avatar

Yes, lets have some champagne now and enjoy it - no use keeping it in the fridge for 'better times' ...

Henrybowman's avatar

It's like holding on to the Lehman Brothers stock so you can sell it at a high.

Vivian Evans's avatar

That is an excellent point, given the current global economic situation.

Perry Simms's avatar

"The same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie?"

Marvin's avatar

How much does Merz have left? Days, weeks?

Gadarr's avatar

Merz has already said that he intends to continue. So we'll see. There is no obvious replacement and the CDU may well calculate that they're safer with Merz holding on by his nails and teeth until the next federal election in 2029 rather than risking the governing coalition now by replacing the sitting chancellor. Especially if that would take a vote of no confidence in the Bundestag.

Green Duck's avatar

Note in particular that *replacing* Merz requires a "constructive" vote of no confidence, i.e., not only expressing no confidence in him, but at the same time electing a replacement chancellor. As you write, there is really nobody around as a likely candidate.

The alternative would be snap elections. Which neither the CDU nor the SPD want, since they do still have about two brain cells left.

Interesting times. Unfortunately.

Marvin's avatar

Seems like he wants to reach 0% approval rating and pave the way for "fascism". I say keep the man where he is.

Shortest Circuit's avatar

As long as the centre-left and centre-right parties fail to address the very valid issues of the general populi, the far-left and far-right are going to gain voters.

si vis pacem, para bellum's avatar

How were people expecting anything different from Germany..??

Look at what happened in the UK after Perfidious Albion left the EU: SAME EXACT POLICIES AS EU POLICIES. France, the UK and (especially) Germany *ARE* the dystopian, satanic, globalist EU.

They are by and large not against and will not fight against the EU because they *ARE* the EU.

The people are both utterly brainwashed (our host here included, he is on record being on the side of "Ukraine", which is a globalist project/war which the EU+UK is all-in on) and diluted by mass 3rd world migration, and those people once they get citizenship overwhelmingly vote "left" (= globalism).

southern kiwi's avatar

The EU countries import gas from Russia, the value of which is a large multiple of the aid that they give to Ukraine. So the EU is NOT AT ALL on the side of Ukraine. Their political leaders simply say that they are - in order to placate public opinion.

si vis pacem, para bellum's avatar

Why is this addressed to me, are you under the impression that I think that the EU is actually on the side of Ukraine..?

The EU ruling class is not even on the side of the countries they rule, let alone Ukraine. They have DESTROYED Ukraine trying to defeat Russia to pillage it like they and (especially) the Americans had been doing from the fall of the Soviet Union to the start of the Putin era.

Luckily for me, a miserable subject of this dystopian, satanic, globalist Union, the NATO - Russia war in Ukraine and all of the accompanying suicidal "sanctions" and policies have hastened the already inevitable end of the EU by way of economic implosion of the two countries which actually have the power, in the EU, France and Germany...

We Italians tried twice to distance ourselves from the EU and the Euro (which we NEVER voted on): the first time by electing Berlusconi and we were "regime changed" by Germany, France and the UK; and the second time by electing Meloni (who on paper was MORE anti-EU and anti-Euro of Alice Wiedel) who immediately turned out to be a globalist puppet.

We are not going to vote our way out of this nightmare. None of us.

Wiedel, Le Pen and Farage will turn out to be just like Trump, Meloni, Wilders, Milei etc.

It's actually pretty easy to spot these gatekeeping frauds but very few people have figured that out and they are not allowed to show the others: what's their position on the JQ? What's their private life like?

Personally, besides these two fundamental questions that one has to ask to correctly evaluate a candidate, I also disqualify women a priori. They are biologically evolved to follow, not to lead.

N.B. Meloni, Wiedel and Le Pen ALL fail the aforementioned "litmus test" ANYWAY.

Carl Jón Denbow's avatar

You apparently never heard of Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir — the iron ladies!

si vis pacem, para bellum's avatar

You mean that Margaret Thatcher who presided over Perfidious Albion's rapid deindustrialization and extensive, savage privatization which wrecked that sorry island?

You mean that Golda Meir who had to resign due to the intense wave of public protests following the publication of the Agranat Commission report which highlighted the Little Satan's severe shortcomings and military unpreparedness at the start of the Yom Kippur War?

Women belong in the kitchen.