Am sorry, but radical ecologists are basically 1 step removed from terrorists. These people are supposedly pro earth but are anti humanity. I am not going to talk shit about human civilization - I exist because of it and I am alive because of it. Its not perfect, but ill be dammed if someone is going to try to send me to the poor house just to save some fucking frog or polar bear
In the US, the corporate interests have co-opted the green movement to the extent that it is a wholly owned subsidiary of energy and banking companies. Read their corporate reports, look at their lobbying for green subsidies and regulations to kneecap their competitors and look where the $1T or so of "green" government "investments" are going.
It’s all a con game. It goes without saying that we all want a clean environment. The rest of this is nonsense. Forget about global warming and climate change from the thirty thousand foot or satellite perspective. What evidence do you see in your own immediate environment of irreversible climate catastrophe? For example when you drive down a busy road or highway, are all the plants and trees dead? No they’re not. They grow well. How is that possible with all the deadly emissions and combustion engines producing deadly CO2? Read even a cursory amount about climate and you’ll find that temperature is cyclic. Rain is cyclic. Solar activity is cyclic. There aren’t more catastrophic storms. There are fewer. When the world shut durn for COVID, CO2 levels did not go down. This is a wealth redistribution and centralized control scheme to benefit the wealthiest 0.01% of mankind and dump the rest of us into third world poverty. These dingbats, as usual, haven’t even gamed this out far enough to see that in the end they’re just screwing themselves. Who is going to support their extravagant lifestyles, magic robots? And furthermore, the rest of the planet is NOT interested. The “global south” is not going to play ball. The biggest risk to mankind is mass ignorance and stupidity coupled with psychopathic opportunists.
I won't either defend or criticize "big oil", but I know for damn sure that their hustle never resulted in the draconian health and economic assaults we've endured over the last several years by the "green" agenda or the "healthcare" criminals.
Where to start. That “greenhouse gases” warm the planet is a lie. Water vapor is the main “greenhouse gas.” Why don’t we go to war with water vapor? CO2 is a trace gas and its effect on trapping sunlight is logarithmic and it’s space is already co-opted by water vapor. Increasing CO2 has no effect on “global warming.” Many historical periods of time on earth were warmer than
today. Like the medieval warm period. Not a lot of SUVs around when the Vikings settled “Greenland.” The “Greens” started counting the temperature rise on earth soon after the “little ice age”. The coldest period in the last 10,000 years. Talk about cherry picking your start date. As measured by satellites, the average “world temperature”. If there is such a thing has dropped by a half degree centigrade since 2016, when we had what was referred to as a “super El Niño.” The “greens” seemed to skip over the fact that we had record snow totals in the Northern Hemisphere this last winter. We were over one standard deviation above the 30 year average for snow in the Northern Hemisphere. Snow, you remember, that white powdery stuff that our kids were never going to experience. Had a friend text me that when she drove by Lake Shasta it was full to the brim. I told her “who are going to believe the climate experts who say California is in a “permanent drought”or your lying eyes.” Al Gore said at Davos this year that “seas were boiling.” Maybe he should get out more instead of flying around in his private jet. This whole “climate change” thing is about political power and controlling the people. It has nothing to do with the climate. Similar to the Covid lockdowns, all about population control and nothing about “science.” You “Greens” that have been brainwashed need to pull your head out and think for yourself. It’s way beyond obvious that this is all about population control. Your battle cry should be “safe and effective.” You know that most recent government lie. Get a clue, the governments worldwide are lying to the people.
It's a sign of how inflexible, if that's the right word, left wing discourse is that they're still insisting that any criticism of "green" policies must be due to Big Oil bankrolling or influencing people. That talking point was stale a decade ago if not more.
In terms of economic motivations, I should think it's obvious. As with the jab, if the regulatory state can be made to mandate use of a product, that's a lot of market share. Especially when no one would use it otherwise. The push to replace internal combustion engines with batteries is very much a case in point. Electrical technologies, at least at this stage, are vastly inferior in terms of cost, range, and recovery time. For example, a gas-powered lawn mower will go for an hour or two on one small tank of gas, and when it runs out it takes a minute to refill. An electric mower gives out in 20 minutes and takes 3 hours to recharge.
By and large it seems like much of the green nonsense is just corporations trying to make a profit by 'innovating' worse solutions to solved problems, and then relying on government force to gain market share. Instead of actually coming up with genuinely new technologies that are superior enough that people will adopt them without being brow-beaten into it.
Of course, acknowledging that their entire movement has become one giant exercise in regulatory capture and rent extraction would rather conflict with their image as warriors against the plutocracy bravely saving the planet from cow farts or whatever.
If we survive as a species this period of history has to become known as the most asinine and deceitful design against humanity by any power group ever.
All that they are attacking... the stepping stones of our lives in a civilization now capable of supplying the basic needs of everyone they had no hand in creating. . These are the doings of non creative people living high on the surplus created by the genius and vision of men in comparison to whom they are nothing.
Vicious and without even a minimum of gratitude or empathy for others in the realm of humanity they need to be stopped in their lust for mastery over all.
Stopping them by any and all means is necessary, they mean to do utmost harm to as many humans as they can. This is the only stock in trade that they know, they have no other talent. History is proof of that. There is no future having them live alongside the rest of humanity because they are first and foremost destroyers, or thieves of everything created by others that they desire.
All this environmental and climate hullaballoo red herring is just another ploy to have the dumb sell themselves out as one of Lenins useful idiots. Lenin's useful idiot or Lemming are one and the same.
Now.. those so inclined can go on doing intellectual feats of high wire gymnastics all you want on this subject. Just like the Covid farce I'm not going along that path... No needle, no mask, no lockdown, I side stepped it all.
But as with the damage done ( much still to come for many years ) by this planned and engineered phoney pandemic, so it will be with the phoney Eco/Climate, if the paramours of deception of this are not stopped, and real problem solving talent is brought in. Get rid of the problem makers and call in the problem solvers.
There is a way to solve the current social regress spreading around the globe. The Justinian code of the Byzantine Empire, which lasted well over a thousand years largely because of the code.
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In my view, lefties focus entirely too much on money and profit as the prime motive for the evils they decry. They seem to forget (or deliberately ignore) that people can and do have other motives beyond wealth.
In high school, one of my social-studies textbooks showed what the authors claimed were photos of Mao Tse-Tung's modest room with a simple bed and spartan nightstand. The caption underneath stressed how Mao was less interested in personal luxuries than in advancing the welfare of his people. (Yes, this was a textbook by a major American publisher. 🙄) As if that made him somehow less destructive.
Like their leftist comrades everywhere, what the authors of this book omitted is that Mao sought POWER, not money -- the power to tell everyone else how to arrange their lives and to order them around. (Decades later, I learned that Mao spent the heroic Long March being carried to and fro on a sedan chair.)
Beyond money and power, people can be motivated by ideology; by the feeling that they are somehow "making a difference;" by the accumulation of influence and prestige: this last pair of motives is particularly applicable to the "scientifically minded" among us who push climate and Covid drivel. They don't do it for the money, or even for personal power... and yet they are more destructive and oppressive than the private businessmen that they exclusively focus on.
The gas physicist James Moody notes that CO2 has a specific gravity of 1.62 (62% heavier than air), CO2 cools rapidly and falls to earth to be absorbed by oceans and by plants (for photosynthesis). It is not a greenhouse gas. Vilifying CO2 as the enemy of the earth by notable non-scientists (Al Gore and John aka Cadaverous Kerry) is the biggest scam of all time. The horrendous child slavery occurring right now in the Congo by raping the environment for cobalt(needed for recharging your lithium batteries so they don't explode into flame) goes completely unnoticed by our jet setting elite. No country should ruin their economies based upon the CO2 scam.
Back in the 60’s and 70’s when the enviro movement really got going, even I have to admit there were some serious pollution problems. But as far as I can tell, most of them have been dealt with pretty satisfactorily. Now, however, the green agenda has gotten increasingly psychotic to where it seems the real agenda is impoverishing and controlling, in particular, western societies, because the rest of the world’s developing countries are hardly likely to kowtow to this lunatic BS.
"But to take the side of [anti-vaxxers] (fossil fuels) when the [people are dying] (world is burning up), and [hospitals] (Eco systems) are collapsing every day in plain sight of all of us as a direct result of [virus transmission] (fossil fuel combustion) is beyond astonishing."
I don't believe any science until I see the TikTok video
"Corporate" interests can coerce consumers only when imposed by government force. Did private corporations "force" customers into enjoying cheap electric power and two cars in every suburban garage? Or did these things come from economic progress resulting from voluntary association and market-based choices? By contrast, windmills and solar panels will never be adopted unless they are crammed down our throats, by law, without regard to the economic hardships they cause. There is a crucial difference between economic power and political power. The first functions by voluntary choice, the second only by force. When "corporate" and political interests combine and connive, political power masquerades as capitalism. When analyzing economic events, these two kinds of power should never be confused with each other.
I think the unifying feature of all the proposed electrified "solutions" are that they allow for central information collection and, ultimately, central control over anything that would otherwise provide some modicum of individual autonomy. With most of the policies it´s impossible to argue with a straight face that they are about reducing "CO2 emissions".
Germany is supposedly responsible for 2% of carbon dioxide that is man-made. But carbon dioxide is only .04% of the atmosphere and “man” supposedly only even is responsible for a small fraction of that number to begin with because we have natural events like volcanoes and un-natural events like dumb asses blowing up Nordstream and releasing Lord knows how much crap into our atmosphere. It’s so obvious that this entire venture is solely based on money, power and control. Whenever I hear about carbon credits, I roll my eyes- its so obvious it’s a chit system that only corporations and billionaires can afford to buy, these green followers are the ultimate symbol of sheep- they are helping to facilitate into reality the absolute opposite of what they virtuously and very seriously are purporting to seek- saving the environment.
Am sorry, but radical ecologists are basically 1 step removed from terrorists. These people are supposedly pro earth but are anti humanity. I am not going to talk shit about human civilization - I exist because of it and I am alive because of it. Its not perfect, but ill be dammed if someone is going to try to send me to the poor house just to save some fucking frog or polar bear
In the US, the corporate interests have co-opted the green movement to the extent that it is a wholly owned subsidiary of energy and banking companies. Read their corporate reports, look at their lobbying for green subsidies and regulations to kneecap their competitors and look where the $1T or so of "green" government "investments" are going.
"Once the electrical grid becomes the only source of energy, the state achieves near-total control of emissions."
And near-total control of you and me.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fprincipia-scientific.com%2Fsatellite-data-shows-no-global-warming-for-eight-years-nine-months%2F
It’s all a con game. It goes without saying that we all want a clean environment. The rest of this is nonsense. Forget about global warming and climate change from the thirty thousand foot or satellite perspective. What evidence do you see in your own immediate environment of irreversible climate catastrophe? For example when you drive down a busy road or highway, are all the plants and trees dead? No they’re not. They grow well. How is that possible with all the deadly emissions and combustion engines producing deadly CO2? Read even a cursory amount about climate and you’ll find that temperature is cyclic. Rain is cyclic. Solar activity is cyclic. There aren’t more catastrophic storms. There are fewer. When the world shut durn for COVID, CO2 levels did not go down. This is a wealth redistribution and centralized control scheme to benefit the wealthiest 0.01% of mankind and dump the rest of us into third world poverty. These dingbats, as usual, haven’t even gamed this out far enough to see that in the end they’re just screwing themselves. Who is going to support their extravagant lifestyles, magic robots? And furthermore, the rest of the planet is NOT interested. The “global south” is not going to play ball. The biggest risk to mankind is mass ignorance and stupidity coupled with psychopathic opportunists.
I won't either defend or criticize "big oil", but I know for damn sure that their hustle never resulted in the draconian health and economic assaults we've endured over the last several years by the "green" agenda or the "healthcare" criminals.
Where to start. That “greenhouse gases” warm the planet is a lie. Water vapor is the main “greenhouse gas.” Why don’t we go to war with water vapor? CO2 is a trace gas and its effect on trapping sunlight is logarithmic and it’s space is already co-opted by water vapor. Increasing CO2 has no effect on “global warming.” Many historical periods of time on earth were warmer than
today. Like the medieval warm period. Not a lot of SUVs around when the Vikings settled “Greenland.” The “Greens” started counting the temperature rise on earth soon after the “little ice age”. The coldest period in the last 10,000 years. Talk about cherry picking your start date. As measured by satellites, the average “world temperature”. If there is such a thing has dropped by a half degree centigrade since 2016, when we had what was referred to as a “super El Niño.” The “greens” seemed to skip over the fact that we had record snow totals in the Northern Hemisphere this last winter. We were over one standard deviation above the 30 year average for snow in the Northern Hemisphere. Snow, you remember, that white powdery stuff that our kids were never going to experience. Had a friend text me that when she drove by Lake Shasta it was full to the brim. I told her “who are going to believe the climate experts who say California is in a “permanent drought”or your lying eyes.” Al Gore said at Davos this year that “seas were boiling.” Maybe he should get out more instead of flying around in his private jet. This whole “climate change” thing is about political power and controlling the people. It has nothing to do with the climate. Similar to the Covid lockdowns, all about population control and nothing about “science.” You “Greens” that have been brainwashed need to pull your head out and think for yourself. It’s way beyond obvious that this is all about population control. Your battle cry should be “safe and effective.” You know that most recent government lie. Get a clue, the governments worldwide are lying to the people.
It's a sign of how inflexible, if that's the right word, left wing discourse is that they're still insisting that any criticism of "green" policies must be due to Big Oil bankrolling or influencing people. That talking point was stale a decade ago if not more.
In terms of economic motivations, I should think it's obvious. As with the jab, if the regulatory state can be made to mandate use of a product, that's a lot of market share. Especially when no one would use it otherwise. The push to replace internal combustion engines with batteries is very much a case in point. Electrical technologies, at least at this stage, are vastly inferior in terms of cost, range, and recovery time. For example, a gas-powered lawn mower will go for an hour or two on one small tank of gas, and when it runs out it takes a minute to refill. An electric mower gives out in 20 minutes and takes 3 hours to recharge.
By and large it seems like much of the green nonsense is just corporations trying to make a profit by 'innovating' worse solutions to solved problems, and then relying on government force to gain market share. Instead of actually coming up with genuinely new technologies that are superior enough that people will adopt them without being brow-beaten into it.
Of course, acknowledging that their entire movement has become one giant exercise in regulatory capture and rent extraction would rather conflict with their image as warriors against the plutocracy bravely saving the planet from cow farts or whatever.
This is all bilge water to me.
If we survive as a species this period of history has to become known as the most asinine and deceitful design against humanity by any power group ever.
All that they are attacking... the stepping stones of our lives in a civilization now capable of supplying the basic needs of everyone they had no hand in creating. . These are the doings of non creative people living high on the surplus created by the genius and vision of men in comparison to whom they are nothing.
Vicious and without even a minimum of gratitude or empathy for others in the realm of humanity they need to be stopped in their lust for mastery over all.
Stopping them by any and all means is necessary, they mean to do utmost harm to as many humans as they can. This is the only stock in trade that they know, they have no other talent. History is proof of that. There is no future having them live alongside the rest of humanity because they are first and foremost destroyers, or thieves of everything created by others that they desire.
All this environmental and climate hullaballoo red herring is just another ploy to have the dumb sell themselves out as one of Lenins useful idiots. Lenin's useful idiot or Lemming are one and the same.
Now.. those so inclined can go on doing intellectual feats of high wire gymnastics all you want on this subject. Just like the Covid farce I'm not going along that path... No needle, no mask, no lockdown, I side stepped it all.
But as with the damage done ( much still to come for many years ) by this planned and engineered phoney pandemic, so it will be with the phoney Eco/Climate, if the paramours of deception of this are not stopped, and real problem solving talent is brought in. Get rid of the problem makers and call in the problem solvers.
There is a way to solve the current social regress spreading around the globe. The Justinian code of the Byzantine Empire, which lasted well over a thousand years largely because of the code.
WBJ
In my view, lefties focus entirely too much on money and profit as the prime motive for the evils they decry. They seem to forget (or deliberately ignore) that people can and do have other motives beyond wealth.
In high school, one of my social-studies textbooks showed what the authors claimed were photos of Mao Tse-Tung's modest room with a simple bed and spartan nightstand. The caption underneath stressed how Mao was less interested in personal luxuries than in advancing the welfare of his people. (Yes, this was a textbook by a major American publisher. 🙄) As if that made him somehow less destructive.
Like their leftist comrades everywhere, what the authors of this book omitted is that Mao sought POWER, not money -- the power to tell everyone else how to arrange their lives and to order them around. (Decades later, I learned that Mao spent the heroic Long March being carried to and fro on a sedan chair.)
Beyond money and power, people can be motivated by ideology; by the feeling that they are somehow "making a difference;" by the accumulation of influence and prestige: this last pair of motives is particularly applicable to the "scientifically minded" among us who push climate and Covid drivel. They don't do it for the money, or even for personal power... and yet they are more destructive and oppressive than the private businessmen that they exclusively focus on.
The gas physicist James Moody notes that CO2 has a specific gravity of 1.62 (62% heavier than air), CO2 cools rapidly and falls to earth to be absorbed by oceans and by plants (for photosynthesis). It is not a greenhouse gas. Vilifying CO2 as the enemy of the earth by notable non-scientists (Al Gore and John aka Cadaverous Kerry) is the biggest scam of all time. The horrendous child slavery occurring right now in the Congo by raping the environment for cobalt(needed for recharging your lithium batteries so they don't explode into flame) goes completely unnoticed by our jet setting elite. No country should ruin their economies based upon the CO2 scam.
Back in the 60’s and 70’s when the enviro movement really got going, even I have to admit there were some serious pollution problems. But as far as I can tell, most of them have been dealt with pretty satisfactorily. Now, however, the green agenda has gotten increasingly psychotic to where it seems the real agenda is impoverishing and controlling, in particular, western societies, because the rest of the world’s developing countries are hardly likely to kowtow to this lunatic BS.
"But to take the side of [anti-vaxxers] (fossil fuels) when the [people are dying] (world is burning up), and [hospitals] (Eco systems) are collapsing every day in plain sight of all of us as a direct result of [virus transmission] (fossil fuel combustion) is beyond astonishing."
I don't believe any science until I see the TikTok video
"Corporate" interests can coerce consumers only when imposed by government force. Did private corporations "force" customers into enjoying cheap electric power and two cars in every suburban garage? Or did these things come from economic progress resulting from voluntary association and market-based choices? By contrast, windmills and solar panels will never be adopted unless they are crammed down our throats, by law, without regard to the economic hardships they cause. There is a crucial difference between economic power and political power. The first functions by voluntary choice, the second only by force. When "corporate" and political interests combine and connive, political power masquerades as capitalism. When analyzing economic events, these two kinds of power should never be confused with each other.
"Once the electrical grid becomes the only source of energy, the state achieves near-total control of emissions" Very interesting thought!
I think the unifying feature of all the proposed electrified "solutions" are that they allow for central information collection and, ultimately, central control over anything that would otherwise provide some modicum of individual autonomy. With most of the policies it´s impossible to argue with a straight face that they are about reducing "CO2 emissions".
On Twitter and for debunking green dream lies, Alex Epstein is the guy to read. He posts all day and night facts that obliterates the green arguments. https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1657778017668677632
Germany is supposedly responsible for 2% of carbon dioxide that is man-made. But carbon dioxide is only .04% of the atmosphere and “man” supposedly only even is responsible for a small fraction of that number to begin with because we have natural events like volcanoes and un-natural events like dumb asses blowing up Nordstream and releasing Lord knows how much crap into our atmosphere. It’s so obvious that this entire venture is solely based on money, power and control. Whenever I hear about carbon credits, I roll my eyes- its so obvious it’s a chit system that only corporations and billionaires can afford to buy, these green followers are the ultimate symbol of sheep- they are helping to facilitate into reality the absolute opposite of what they virtuously and very seriously are purporting to seek- saving the environment.