A lot has happened since I last wrote, most of it relating to an enormous wintry island called Greenland, which was first settled by the Norse in the Middle Ages and which has been a part of the Danish kingdom since the eighteenth century.
Trumps reaction towards Norway is reminiscent of the CCP reaction to dissident Liu Xiaobo receiving the prize in 2010. China too acted as if the winner is chosen by the Norwegian government, and not the independent committee (albeit selected by parliament) who actually does it.
The Chinese punished Norway with a break in diplomatic relations for 6 years, leading to massive economic costs for export industry and to Norwegian leaders having to grovel at the stinky feet of Chinese leaders for years to reestablish economic ties. But the Chinese reaction was seen more as a sort of natural disaster, where moral condemnation was futile, than an action by rational political actors, and so much negotiating was done in the shadows to appease the asian super power. In the case of Trump however, condemnation is now unanimous.
One great irony here is that this years Nobel prize has been heavily criticized in Norway for being Trump-friendly, in that it went to a Trump-supporter. Criticism of the committee – who once awarded the prize to Obama for merely giving nice feels – from the left is rare to say the least. And now anyone in Norway who's ever been even neutral to Trump (very, very few) will be attacked with variants of "how do you nationalists like him now??" A portion of the very few Trump-supporters still like him, and have to balance the joy of seeing eurocrat Støre being pressured with the depressing fact of our country and economy again being used as a geopolitical pawn. As you have argued, this is all in all very bad for any Norwegian mega/maga-sympathizers, and even just the center-right. Sad.
This is an interesting and possibly unintentional contrasting point, but it sounds like the Norwegian ruling elite feared and respected China but not the US President. This is arguably the problem. It's much easier to have polite relations with someone who never asks you to do anything you don't want to do (eg Biden).
Did the Norwegian people want to trade neutrality for NATO membership or was that done Helmet Kohl style when it came to Germany adopting the euro (essentially by decree because he knew the German people wouldn’t go for it)?
Norway was a founding member of Nato in 1949 and entered in large part as a consequence of being occupied by Nazi-Germany throughout WW2, as well as the threat of sharing a border with the Soviet Union. Of about 2 million citizens about half voted for the social democrat party ("Arbeiderpartiet" – the workers party) who had a pure majority in parliament. Despite the party name's seeming reference to communism, they were social democrats explicitly opposed to communists, and joining Nato was an equally explicit alliance with the West and American power.
Thanks for that. I have to confess I had a brain fart and was thinking of Finland (and despite how it looks I do know the difference between the Scandinavian countries! So I am a bit embarrassed lol). I think there is subtle pressure here in Ireland to officially pick sides (which is done by the media for us anyway). Should Ireland arm up I reckon we would resemble the various troops sent to Greenland (a joke). As Michael Burry (Big Short) famously said recently about the crazy markets, sometimes the best way to win is not to play. I think that’s true for tiny countries and geopolitics when the Big Powers seem bent on raising hell.
Your mistake is forgiven, as we inhabitants of small countries who are not too inflicted with ethno-narcissism realize most of the world dont care or know who we are. On that note, perhaps the Irish should recall the warrior path of your great ancestor and national hero Braveheart, and rally a forceful attack toward your new mighty oppressor.
The Irish are too busy committing national suicide to bother with Trump, or any other alleged external threat. For his part, Trump doesn't need to do anything to the Irish. They're doing a fine job of self-extinguishing. One thing I will give to you and your countrymen, however. You don't seem to have followed your neighbors down the path of suicide by empathy.
From the US’s perspective I would argue (if I wanted to argue but I probably see it your way more) I would say war with Russia is now and the Chinese/US Cold War is here. We don’t have time to wait for populism to take Europe. Trump needs the current European leadership to change course dramatically even if there are costs in otherwise positive longer term trends.
If TRUMP will invade GREENLAND, it will be in that 100 year old tradition of the monocle wearing eunuch in the lead command car just keeps driving across the imaginary line of the border and settles in for a restful 5 or 6 year occupation at the idyllic French chatteau?
Please Lord, let us finally be rid of NATO and let the Eurotard Islamic nations defend themselves. We shouldn't spend one nickel defending these scummy ingrates. While we're at it, kick all the criminals out of the UN building and use it to house homeless veterans. Its long past due that we cut ties with the garbage, anti-Democratic nations in Europe. Let them make their windmills and censor their people while we return our attention to America First where it belongs.
How's that going to help the USA? For starters, we'll no longer have to pay billions defending a bunch of cowardly losers who hate us. We'll never have to hear Euroweenies talking shit about America again. For decades we've listened to pompous, foppish Eurotards lecture America while they intentionally destroy their nations. If you're going to continue to elect retards then you're gonna get everything you deserve. Time for the morning prayers to Allah!
So North America contains more than the USA? Are you talking about the Snow Mexicans up north? Lmao, you can have those losers too. As soon as Trump ends the USMCA this year, their economy will crash and their whole country will go bankrupt except Alberta which is smart enough to get the hell out.
"such knowledge, such balance". I guess your BBC disagrees. See, this is the problem, even the so called normal white people in Europe are deluded imbeciles still clinging to the lies sold to them by their ruling pedophiles. Wake the F up. Europe is the only entity still clinging to the Climate Scam so they can steal your hard earned money and more than half you morons still believe the world will be underwater next week. The dumbest people on earth. The whole Globalist facade is crumbling. And Eurotards are still arguing about knowledge and balance instead of restoring their countries to greatness. You can start by deporting all the "People of Colour" who have spread the wonders of diversity throughout Europe. Thanks Angie Merkel!
Your hate is a tad misdirected. Focus on the Globalists as your bad guy, the politicians do their bidding and the people are all brainwashed (as we are here in the USA).
We, Americans, are not superior nor are we the 'good guys'. That's all Hollywood crap. We are an extension of the British empire (It's just business, nothing personal) and we are destined to self-destruct, like all empires.
Hm. You sure about that? All my relatives live in Greece and it seems every time I visit, the “not disliked” list is getting shorter and shorter. Still, there were only a handful of names on it to begin with…it’s been all downhill on that score since the last US Nobel Peace Prize-winning President, to be honest.
"Snow Mexicans" got a laugh out of me. Canada has a surprisingly belligerent posture, a lot of "don't mess with our pride" relative to the military and economic benefit it derives from the US. I do really feel for a lot of people there who did not personally choose the socialist idiocy that is being forced upon them. But you already mentioned Alberta as an exception ;)
It's interesting that Quebec chose language over religion, imported a lot of muslims, and is increasingly intolerant of the faith that birthed it and the liberal values that everyone so long touted.
It's kind of a case study in socialist demoralization. But still with lots of national pride, apparently. The moment you say a mean thing about the maple syrup, they spite you by not electing Poilievre...
They're all (Europe and Canada) saturated in propaganda and lies which is not their fault. But failing to see the lies at this point is their fault. The whole socialist idiocy is a case study in oxymorons and real life morons who hold polar opposite views whenever the narrative tells them to. I'm tired of pretending people have no agency or responsibility. I'm supposed to feel bad because they're retarded?
".. and Greenlanders themselves are overwhelmingly opposed to leaving the Danish kingdom to become a freely associated U.S. territory."
Are they? In german tv one can see only Danish-Greenlanders speaking.
What about the Inuit, where women without knowing were made infertile by the Danish? Who already have tribe-brothers living happily in the US for a long time?
To me it looks, they are not asked yet or if they have been asked, have not responded in the danish hoped fashion.
There's no mystery about the reasons why. Among other things, Greenlanders have much more generous benefits as a part of the Danish kingdom than they would receive as a freely associated US territory.
Alaska's people have been subsidized considerably to offset the value of the land and it's resources. That doesn't really mean it's helped them. It's a milder variant of the resource curse (ref. middle East and Africa). Also true of some native Indian reservations, some do better than others with oil and gambling and subsidy. It's almost as if culture matters.
We forget that not that long ago conquest was afoot quite broadly. Arguably it still is by those not needing parlor cover, or for example China.
Perhaps Greenland will be a framework for the test of a sovereign wealth fund. Perhaps the Norwegians will de-bunch their panties if they are consulted on the tactics and mechanics.
If it’s a straight choice (which it should be) between being part of Russia/China or being part of the USA, there’s no contest. It’s all fine and dandy saying “we want to be left alone” but it’s not going to happen, not now, not in today’s world. To be clear, I would pick the USA.
Every time I read about this story I get a huge smile on my face. Back when Ursula Von Der Retard won the capitulation Olympics against Trump in the "trade deal" i rather remarked that Trump would inevitably be back for moooooaaaaar and not 6 months later, here we are.
These fucking morons thought Trump forgot about the many, many, many grievances he had accrued during Bidens term, and during the election season. The guy is not stupid and is serving his vengeance coldly, painfully, and with great humiliation. This is far from over, there is oh so much more coming
There is no competence layer beneath the stupidity. These people are morons all the way down, at every layer, to the core. Trump could literally scream from the hilltops his intentions and they still wouldn't get it.
It's worth noting that the Eurotards label is one that has Variable Geometry because in this incarnation it comprises North Western EU countries plus the UK and Norway and notably excludes the Mediterranean and Visegrad Group from Eastern Europe. What this lot of political eunuchs think they can achieve is -oops- nothing.
I appreciate eugyppius' neutral tone in the article - without being familiar with the tenor of the rest of his work, one wouldn't necessarily know how he felt about this. It's been a long time since I've read facts arranged as news.
Perhaps you hadn't noticed but India has been an independent sovereign nation for many decades., after the people of India expressed a wish to become independent. In the case of Greenland, the people of Greenland have expressed a clear wish that they wish to maintain the status quo and specifically they DO NOT want to become Americans.
The understanding is that the payments will be used to develop the Chagos Islands. But, irrespective, that isn't the point. The point is that as your Grandma taught you, "Two wrongs don't make a right"
I see. So what specifically (Contract, Charter, Treaty, UN Resolution etc.) makes it "American land"? Or perhaps you mean that America has the might to take it and "might is right"?
I do find it ironic that as the EU "leaders" continue to shit their pants about the nonsensical fantasy that Russia wishes to invade them, their "Closest ally" and fellow NATO member (Article 5?) plans to annex EU territory. Think about that.
Of course might makes right. Always has, always will. International law, in its current form, is a post ww2 American invention used to put a happy face on our empire. The interests of USA are more closely aligned with Russia than with Western Europe.
Setting aside the Strategic alliances aspect (Actually the interests of Europe are FAR more closely aligned with Russia than those of the US), might is right, you say. So what's next? Canada? Mexico? Brazil?
I would contend that the US Empire is already in decline because of excessive debt - the same reason ALL Empires collapse. So it would seem like an appropriate time to start shrinking the Empire not expanding it?
And as the old saying goes "Make friends on the way up because you will need them on the way down".
Greenland is geographically part of the North American continent, sitting on the North American tectonic plate and connected to North America via the continental shelf. So, the USA and Greenland are on the same continent and the same continental shelf. Canada is also American land. It makes sense for both Greenland and Canada to be annexed into a Greater USA along with Central America and the North of South America.
The Inuit of Greenland are descendants of people who migrated from Siberia, across Alaska and Arctic Canada, arriving in Greenland in waves, most notably the Thule people around 1000-1200 CE, who became the direct ancestors of today's Greenlandic Inuit. They have deep roots in Northeast Asia but could be accommodated in the Middle-East.
I'm going to be completely honest here, and state that I actively do not want Canadian provinces to become states. I mean, have you *seen* what those people vote for?
I admit that's a silly way to think about it, and the reality has far more to do with proximity than deep tectonic structure, but that *was* the argument he was making.
No but it would make sense for the USA and Canada to be annexxed to Scotland, which was once connected to North America, after Scotland has unified with Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Devon, Brittany and Northwest Spain and Northern Portugal.
The native Greenlanders? Why the heck would they want to do that? They may prefer to stay under the aegis of Denmark, but even if they end up under the USA, they'd be far better off staying than moving to the miserable shit show of the middle east. Plus, there's a *slight* difference in the local climes between those two locations.
That just further obfuscates the issue of the wishes of the people of Greenland.
It does, however, raise the same issue tangentially because Northern Ireland is a case of self-determination of peoples. That's also a tricky one because it seems to work fine for, say, Taiwan but not so much for Crimea, Donbass, Catalunya etc?
No, I agree, honestly. I understand why the US wants Greenland, but my point was more about the hypocrisy of the British lamenting the situation, since the only reason the people of Northern Ireland are present in order to have self determined they want to continue as a part of the UK is because England invaded the island, killed a fuck ton of the Irish, and moved a whole pile of their own people over there. Of course, I live in America, in a city bordered on three sides by Indian reservations. Because the British, French, and Spanish all invaded the continent and took it over. So functionally, this is rather in our historical traditions.
I fully concur that the people of Donbass, Crimea, and Catalunya, as well as the Basque, should be allowed to separate as they wish. I think US states should be allowed to leave if they like as well. But that's certainly not the way things have gone in recent centuries.
That experiment was more or less tried in Europe at the end of WWI. The idea came from another US President loved by the Euros: Woodrow Wilson. I think the historical consensus is that it was catastrophic. Its crowning achievement was that it gave Hitler the moral high ground to demand various territories of sovereign nations (or entire nation-states, like in the case of Austria) because they contained within their political boundaries German irredenta. All it proved is that Great Powers are gonna Great Power, regardless of whether they’re doing it for Power or for Cause.
Well, given that 85% of its actual property owners and inhabitants wish to keep the status quo, I think they have a tad more moral authority than an empire convulsively spewing tweets about Russian and Chinese Boogeymen that have had nearly 100 years already to invade and assimilate the dogsled kingdom.
If Denmark has tenuous claims to Greenland, where does that leave the US "claims"? Even George Bush Jr. is embarrassed by the Trump's pretext for preemptive war!
Somehow, someway, a powerful faction within and above the Blob has pressured, convinced and cajoled Trump into this latest bout of spasmodic detours into belligerence and warfare, at the expense of any sense of the America First agenda, liberty-minded populism, or just the dang coalition of folks that elected him. He's lost his damn mind.
Greenland's resources are worth trillions and need to be redistributed to Americans. I hope that after he takes Nuuk, Trump takes Berlin and then all of Europe.
Well, the whole point of ownership is invoked selectively. As someone pointed out, we are on "stolen land" 400 yrs later but the fresh-off-the-boat polygamous African muslim on fraudulent benefits is an instant American.
History is rife with colonization and conquest. Should Turkey give up Constantinople?
OK that's a zany example, but there's a lot of various realignments not that long ago.
So what do you think is this all about? Rare earths (which are not rare, as he himself is fond of saying)? Getting rid of NATO through the back door as the primary goal through means he can ambiguously legally effect without congressional support? Is it really the Nobel snub? Is he just as retarded – but differently – as the Eurotards?
It certainly is not the claimed reason – Denmark has been an ultra-accomodating ally in all things, including Greenland, and the only major military presence is already American with Pituffik SB (née Thule AFB). The idea that Russia or China might conquer it seems quite fanciful, or rather more delusional than the Swedish boomer obsession with Russia’s alleged drive to conquer Gotland.
It is possible that it is purely about humiliation. There are people who really do think the purpose of life is to humiliate others ... and not just their enemies. It's a rare psychological type, but does exist.
I’m American. Yes, Trump is just as retarded as the Eurotards. That’s why he kidnapped a foreign president. They know America is finished and are just trying to loot the country and use our military as their personal bruisers while portions of it are still effective. Gold and silver have skyrocketed. Almost half a million Americans had their homes foreclosed on last year, and more are going to experience that this year. He is not trying to save America; he is trying to save America Inc., Ben Shapiro’s empire. That’s why they are not actually deporting the Bidenwave of migrants, have not focused on deportations in red states, are not taxing remittances 100%, and are not jailing employers.
Just because Trump says something doesn't mean that requirements of logic and evidence are suspended.
It's only about missile defense if it impossible for the US to site the desired part of the projected missile defense shield on Greenland under current arrangements, or any negotiated variant thereof.
Can you show that this is the case? The evidence seems to be to the contrary.
are you a weapons expert now? And frankly, no one needs to show you anything. The Man wants Greenland, end of story. That is what Denmark did way back when - send troops, take it. You as a weapons expert, can do the same, you know?
I'm not so sure. The issue in question requires no knowledge of warheads, range, guidance systems etc. The issue is whether the missile defense shield (whatever the technology may be) can only be placed on Greenland territory by the annexation of that country, and by risking the demise of NATO.
Trump has just lost himself and the US its international credibility by promising the Iranians that he would intervene (kinetically) if the regime started to slaughter them. This gave the Iranians the confidence they needed to risk (and lose) their lives. Trump then reneged on his promise. Even if, let's say, a military attack on the Iranian regime turned out to be a bad idea, the damage was still done by Trump's initial blustering - if he didn't know whether he could deliver, he should have kept his mouth shut.
You can take the "ra-ra, Trump right or wrong, MAGA forever" route if you like, but if Trump is shielded from all criticism and left to say and do whatever he fancies, the Democrats will regain their majorities later this year (already a high probability), resume the impeachment clown show, and then regain the White House in 28.
Sorry, I got whiplash - Greenland, Iran, geopolicy, MAGA, WH '28 - just missed Ancient Aliens and the pyramids to be complete.
You sounded like Biden when he asked "why couldn't they shoot them in the leg?"
And be all means, Im not sarcasm expert - but I do not opinionate when it comes to things I do not understand such as where to place weapons for maximum effectiveness. Way past my pay grade.
Trump's note to Støre is special, but also very Trump. Who is still surprised?
Having skimmed the US National Security Strategy paper in December, I wondered if Greenland has become such a necessity for the US because Europe is becoming un-Europeanized. If they lose all their military bases in Germany/EU when Muslims take over, etc., they could move their inventory and nukes there beforehand and still reach all targets in time if needed.
And if they "own" it, no one can tell them to leave—
which could be a real risk as things escalate right and left. Esp since the US seems to be done with NATO?!
Ah - you men pay off a bunch of people in a nasty little corrupt country (Mauritius) that has nothing at all do with Chagos, but happens to be friends with India and CCP? Just what activist lawyers Mr Starmer KC, Mr Hermer KC and Mr P Sands KC like.
I’m surprised nobody in the comments has mentioned the practical aspects of simply buying the place. Buying Greenland is, more or less, the US proposal. I think if they offered $2 million to every Greenlander, spread as $400k payments over the next five years as long as the next President doesn’t renege on the deal, you’d see that 85% opposition vanish in a heartbeat. The US could also buy some other lightly populated island territories around the planet while they’re at it. Not saying I do or don’t support any of that, but I think it’d work.
The problem is, there’s no legal path for the Greenlanders to just reassociate with the US. They can vote for independence, and Danish parliament would have to approve.
"Legal path" is such a fuzzy concept when it comes to things like this, though. If the US convinced the Greenlanders that they wanted to switch over, the functional legal path is "What the fuck do you think you're going to do about it, Denmark?" It's not pretty, but it is realistic.
Well, presuming Pres. Trump was looking for an excuse to relieve his nation of the burdens of NATO. His ever so sophisticated Eurobetters really showed him, eh?
“Copenhagen lost its tenuous control of Greenland when Denmark was occupied by the German Nazis in 1940. In 1941 the United States occupied Greenland to use it during World War 2. The USA built airfields to serve as refueling sites for trans-Atlantic flights, and as bases for anti-submarine warfare. (These airfields still serve as Greenland’s international airports.)”
Trump should kill NATO and the UN. Make peace with Russia and then do whatever the hell he wants. This will spell the end of the “English Empire” leading to them collapsing with whatever domino falls after that. Trump can rewrite the world order all the while putting China in the crosshairs. He obviously knows this. I’d also shut down the internet while I was at it and see how that works out for them. Europe would crumble within days. Allowing its repressed people to rise up and take back their countries kicking the Davos libtards to the curb.
You’ve done that in America have you? Cos where the rest of us are standing you’re in civil war. Are you going to nation-build us? Can you do us an Iraqi makeover? An Afghan one? Ukrainian? Gazan? So many to choose from I could be here all day but I’m sure it’ll be grand.
Trumps reaction towards Norway is reminiscent of the CCP reaction to dissident Liu Xiaobo receiving the prize in 2010. China too acted as if the winner is chosen by the Norwegian government, and not the independent committee (albeit selected by parliament) who actually does it.
The Chinese punished Norway with a break in diplomatic relations for 6 years, leading to massive economic costs for export industry and to Norwegian leaders having to grovel at the stinky feet of Chinese leaders for years to reestablish economic ties. But the Chinese reaction was seen more as a sort of natural disaster, where moral condemnation was futile, than an action by rational political actors, and so much negotiating was done in the shadows to appease the asian super power. In the case of Trump however, condemnation is now unanimous.
One great irony here is that this years Nobel prize has been heavily criticized in Norway for being Trump-friendly, in that it went to a Trump-supporter. Criticism of the committee – who once awarded the prize to Obama for merely giving nice feels – from the left is rare to say the least. And now anyone in Norway who's ever been even neutral to Trump (very, very few) will be attacked with variants of "how do you nationalists like him now??" A portion of the very few Trump-supporters still like him, and have to balance the joy of seeing eurocrat Støre being pressured with the depressing fact of our country and economy again being used as a geopolitical pawn. As you have argued, this is all in all very bad for any Norwegian mega/maga-sympathizers, and even just the center-right. Sad.
This is an interesting and possibly unintentional contrasting point, but it sounds like the Norwegian ruling elite feared and respected China but not the US President. This is arguably the problem. It's much easier to have polite relations with someone who never asks you to do anything you don't want to do (eg Biden).
Did the Norwegian people want to trade neutrality for NATO membership or was that done Helmet Kohl style when it came to Germany adopting the euro (essentially by decree because he knew the German people wouldn’t go for it)?
Norway was a founding member of Nato in 1949 and entered in large part as a consequence of being occupied by Nazi-Germany throughout WW2, as well as the threat of sharing a border with the Soviet Union. Of about 2 million citizens about half voted for the social democrat party ("Arbeiderpartiet" – the workers party) who had a pure majority in parliament. Despite the party name's seeming reference to communism, they were social democrats explicitly opposed to communists, and joining Nato was an equally explicit alliance with the West and American power.
Thanks for that. I have to confess I had a brain fart and was thinking of Finland (and despite how it looks I do know the difference between the Scandinavian countries! So I am a bit embarrassed lol). I think there is subtle pressure here in Ireland to officially pick sides (which is done by the media for us anyway). Should Ireland arm up I reckon we would resemble the various troops sent to Greenland (a joke). As Michael Burry (Big Short) famously said recently about the crazy markets, sometimes the best way to win is not to play. I think that’s true for tiny countries and geopolitics when the Big Powers seem bent on raising hell.
Your mistake is forgiven, as we inhabitants of small countries who are not too inflicted with ethno-narcissism realize most of the world dont care or know who we are. On that note, perhaps the Irish should recall the warrior path of your great ancestor and national hero Braveheart, and rally a forceful attack toward your new mighty oppressor.
LOL! I think you did that purposefully, because William Wallace (whom the movie Braveheart was about) was Scottish, not Irish. Too funny.
The Irish are too busy committing national suicide to bother with Trump, or any other alleged external threat. For his part, Trump doesn't need to do anything to the Irish. They're doing a fine job of self-extinguishing. One thing I will give to you and your countrymen, however. You don't seem to have followed your neighbors down the path of suicide by empathy.
Finland is not a Scandinavian country. It appears that you don’t know the difference between Scandinavian countries at all.
forgot to mention that Nato-support was not unilateral, but more about 50 %, and most opposition coming from the left.
From the US’s perspective I would argue (if I wanted to argue but I probably see it your way more) I would say war with Russia is now and the Chinese/US Cold War is here. We don’t have time to wait for populism to take Europe. Trump needs the current European leadership to change course dramatically even if there are costs in otherwise positive longer term trends.
If TRUMP will invade GREENLAND, it will be in that 100 year old tradition of the monocle wearing eunuch in the lead command car just keeps driving across the imaginary line of the border and settles in for a restful 5 or 6 year occupation at the idyllic French chatteau?
Please Lord, let us finally be rid of NATO and let the Eurotard Islamic nations defend themselves. We shouldn't spend one nickel defending these scummy ingrates. While we're at it, kick all the criminals out of the UN building and use it to house homeless veterans. Its long past due that we cut ties with the garbage, anti-Democratic nations in Europe. Let them make their windmills and censor their people while we return our attention to America First where it belongs.
Agreed. I've wanted the US to hand NATO over to the Europeans since 1995.
As a Brit, I agree.
Fair enough.
Let's part ways.
So, how's that going to help the USA?
Note: the continent of North Amer-i-ca happens to contain more than the USA.
How's that going to help the USA? For starters, we'll no longer have to pay billions defending a bunch of cowardly losers who hate us. We'll never have to hear Euroweenies talking shit about America again. For decades we've listened to pompous, foppish Eurotards lecture America while they intentionally destroy their nations. If you're going to continue to elect retards then you're gonna get everything you deserve. Time for the morning prayers to Allah!
So North America contains more than the USA? Are you talking about the Snow Mexicans up north? Lmao, you can have those losers too. As soon as Trump ends the USMCA this year, their economy will crash and their whole country will go bankrupt except Alberta which is smart enough to get the hell out.
It's as if the Trump was in the Room.
Such knowledge.
Such balance.
For the record, we really, really do not dislike any citizens of the USA.
"such knowledge, such balance". I guess your BBC disagrees. See, this is the problem, even the so called normal white people in Europe are deluded imbeciles still clinging to the lies sold to them by their ruling pedophiles. Wake the F up. Europe is the only entity still clinging to the Climate Scam so they can steal your hard earned money and more than half you morons still believe the world will be underwater next week. The dumbest people on earth. The whole Globalist facade is crumbling. And Eurotards are still arguing about knowledge and balance instead of restoring their countries to greatness. You can start by deporting all the "People of Colour" who have spread the wonders of diversity throughout Europe. Thanks Angie Merkel!
Your hate is a tad misdirected. Focus on the Globalists as your bad guy, the politicians do their bidding and the people are all brainwashed (as we are here in the USA).
We, Americans, are not superior nor are we the 'good guys'. That's all Hollywood crap. We are an extension of the British empire (It's just business, nothing personal) and we are destined to self-destruct, like all empires.
Chill out.
Oh great, the AWFL Karens have arrived. Don't tell me what to do. And you can stick your "we're all at fault" bullshit where the sun don't shine.
Hm. You sure about that? All my relatives live in Greece and it seems every time I visit, the “not disliked” list is getting shorter and shorter. Still, there were only a handful of names on it to begin with…it’s been all downhill on that score since the last US Nobel Peace Prize-winning President, to be honest.
"Snow Mexicans" got a laugh out of me. Canada has a surprisingly belligerent posture, a lot of "don't mess with our pride" relative to the military and economic benefit it derives from the US. I do really feel for a lot of people there who did not personally choose the socialist idiocy that is being forced upon them. But you already mentioned Alberta as an exception ;)
It's interesting that Quebec chose language over religion, imported a lot of muslims, and is increasingly intolerant of the faith that birthed it and the liberal values that everyone so long touted.
It's kind of a case study in socialist demoralization. But still with lots of national pride, apparently. The moment you say a mean thing about the maple syrup, they spite you by not electing Poilievre...
They're all (Europe and Canada) saturated in propaganda and lies which is not their fault. But failing to see the lies at this point is their fault. The whole socialist idiocy is a case study in oxymorons and real life morons who hold polar opposite views whenever the narrative tells them to. I'm tired of pretending people have no agency or responsibility. I'm supposed to feel bad because they're retarded?
lol
For now.
If only you would… 🤔
".. and Greenlanders themselves are overwhelmingly opposed to leaving the Danish kingdom to become a freely associated U.S. territory."
Are they? In german tv one can see only Danish-Greenlanders speaking.
What about the Inuit, where women without knowing were made infertile by the Danish? Who already have tribe-brothers living happily in the US for a long time?
To me it looks, they are not asked yet or if they have been asked, have not responded in the danish hoped fashion.
The most recent credible poll from early 2025 has 85% opposed to re-associating with US:
https://www.veriangroup.com/news-and-insights/opinion-poll-greenland-2025
There's no mystery about the reasons why. Among other things, Greenlanders have much more generous benefits as a part of the Danish kingdom than they would receive as a freely associated US territory.
Alaska's people have been subsidized considerably to offset the value of the land and it's resources. That doesn't really mean it's helped them. It's a milder variant of the resource curse (ref. middle East and Africa). Also true of some native Indian reservations, some do better than others with oil and gambling and subsidy. It's almost as if culture matters.
We forget that not that long ago conquest was afoot quite broadly. Arguably it still is by those not needing parlor cover, or for example China.
I cannot think of Trump not already courting the natives. And the US has by far the better hand:
1) Not harmed the poeple.
2) Deeper Pockets.
3) Able to prevent them to get colonized by communism.
4) Already Inuit living freely among their US-nation.
5) Trump promised not to do Trump-Towers there.
In fact it is ridiculous better.
Perhaps Greenland will be a framework for the test of a sovereign wealth fund. Perhaps the Norwegians will de-bunch their panties if they are consulted on the tactics and mechanics.
Our checkbook has a lot more green in it than Denmark's.
Not for social programs.
To me expanding territory for national security concerns is not a social program.
If it’s a straight choice (which it should be) between being part of Russia/China or being part of the USA, there’s no contest. It’s all fine and dandy saying “we want to be left alone” but it’s not going to happen, not now, not in today’s world. To be clear, I would pick the USA.
Every time I read about this story I get a huge smile on my face. Back when Ursula Von Der Retard won the capitulation Olympics against Trump in the "trade deal" i rather remarked that Trump would inevitably be back for moooooaaaaar and not 6 months later, here we are.
These fucking morons thought Trump forgot about the many, many, many grievances he had accrued during Bidens term, and during the election season. The guy is not stupid and is serving his vengeance coldly, painfully, and with great humiliation. This is far from over, there is oh so much more coming
What is astounding to me is that the Eurotards don't seem to 'get it'.
It's pure entertainment. Calling him 'Daddy' was icing on the cake.
There is no competence layer beneath the stupidity. These people are morons all the way down, at every layer, to the core. Trump could literally scream from the hilltops his intentions and they still wouldn't get it.
But but but you don't understand! The Euro mainstream *disapproves* of us! The NY Times will surely follow suit. The shame, the shame.
Anything that makes Ursula Fond of Lying squirm is OK by me (from the North Korean Republic of the UK)
It's worth noting that the Eurotards label is one that has Variable Geometry because in this incarnation it comprises North Western EU countries plus the UK and Norway and notably excludes the Mediterranean and Visegrad Group from Eastern Europe. What this lot of political eunuchs think they can achieve is -oops- nothing.
I appreciate eugyppius' neutral tone in the article - without being familiar with the tenor of the rest of his work, one wouldn't necessarily know how he felt about this. It's been a long time since I've read facts arranged as news.
with the exception of "Eurotards" - that's the tell ;-)
Indeed, I assume that's just a reflex for him at this point!
Denmark's right to ownership of Greenland is on much the same basis as Britain's right to ownership of India
Perhaps you hadn't noticed but India has been an independent sovereign nation for many decades., after the people of India expressed a wish to become independent. In the case of Greenland, the people of Greenland have expressed a clear wish that they wish to maintain the status quo and specifically they DO NOT want to become Americans.
And the Chagosians?
Were similarly ignored and could only extract huge payments
Chagosians are not getting huge payments. That is reserved for the Mauritian government which is best mates with CCP
The understanding is that the payments will be used to develop the Chagos Islands. But, irrespective, that isn't the point. The point is that as your Grandma taught you, "Two wrongs don't make a right"
It's American land. They should relocate to Gaza, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, or Arabia.
I see. So what specifically (Contract, Charter, Treaty, UN Resolution etc.) makes it "American land"? Or perhaps you mean that America has the might to take it and "might is right"?
I do find it ironic that as the EU "leaders" continue to shit their pants about the nonsensical fantasy that Russia wishes to invade them, their "Closest ally" and fellow NATO member (Article 5?) plans to annex EU territory. Think about that.
Of course might makes right. Always has, always will. International law, in its current form, is a post ww2 American invention used to put a happy face on our empire. The interests of USA are more closely aligned with Russia than with Western Europe.
Setting aside the Strategic alliances aspect (Actually the interests of Europe are FAR more closely aligned with Russia than those of the US), might is right, you say. So what's next? Canada? Mexico? Brazil?
I would contend that the US Empire is already in decline because of excessive debt - the same reason ALL Empires collapse. So it would seem like an appropriate time to start shrinking the Empire not expanding it?
And as the old saying goes "Make friends on the way up because you will need them on the way down".
Greenland is geographically part of the North American continent, sitting on the North American tectonic plate and connected to North America via the continental shelf. So, the USA and Greenland are on the same continent and the same continental shelf. Canada is also American land. It makes sense for both Greenland and Canada to be annexed into a Greater USA along with Central America and the North of South America.
The Inuit of Greenland are descendants of people who migrated from Siberia, across Alaska and Arctic Canada, arriving in Greenland in waves, most notably the Thule people around 1000-1200 CE, who became the direct ancestors of today's Greenlandic Inuit. They have deep roots in Northeast Asia but could be accommodated in the Middle-East.
I'm going to be completely honest here, and state that I actively do not want Canadian provinces to become states. I mean, have you *seen* what those people vote for?
Maybe Alberta and Saskatchewan
I see. So the same argument could be made by, say Mexico, if they decided to annex the USA and Canada into Mexico?
Honestly, from a geological perspective, no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurentia
I admit that's a silly way to think about it, and the reality has far more to do with proximity than deep tectonic structure, but that *was* the argument he was making.
No but it would make sense for the USA and Canada to be annexxed to Scotland, which was once connected to North America, after Scotland has unified with Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Devon, Brittany and Northwest Spain and Northern Portugal.
The native Greenlanders? Why the heck would they want to do that? They may prefer to stay under the aegis of Denmark, but even if they end up under the USA, they'd be far better off staying than moving to the miserable shit show of the middle east. Plus, there's a *slight* difference in the local climes between those two locations.
India is a terrible example, it's true. Northern Ireland is a far better example.
That just further obfuscates the issue of the wishes of the people of Greenland.
It does, however, raise the same issue tangentially because Northern Ireland is a case of self-determination of peoples. That's also a tricky one because it seems to work fine for, say, Taiwan but not so much for Crimea, Donbass, Catalunya etc?
No, I agree, honestly. I understand why the US wants Greenland, but my point was more about the hypocrisy of the British lamenting the situation, since the only reason the people of Northern Ireland are present in order to have self determined they want to continue as a part of the UK is because England invaded the island, killed a fuck ton of the Irish, and moved a whole pile of their own people over there. Of course, I live in America, in a city bordered on three sides by Indian reservations. Because the British, French, and Spanish all invaded the continent and took it over. So functionally, this is rather in our historical traditions.
I fully concur that the people of Donbass, Crimea, and Catalunya, as well as the Basque, should be allowed to separate as they wish. I think US states should be allowed to leave if they like as well. But that's certainly not the way things have gone in recent centuries.
That experiment was more or less tried in Europe at the end of WWI. The idea came from another US President loved by the Euros: Woodrow Wilson. I think the historical consensus is that it was catastrophic. Its crowning achievement was that it gave Hitler the moral high ground to demand various territories of sovereign nations (or entire nation-states, like in the case of Austria) because they contained within their political boundaries German irredenta. All it proved is that Great Powers are gonna Great Power, regardless of whether they’re doing it for Power or for Cause.
Well, given that 85% of its actual property owners and inhabitants wish to keep the status quo, I think they have a tad more moral authority than an empire convulsively spewing tweets about Russian and Chinese Boogeymen that have had nearly 100 years already to invade and assimilate the dogsled kingdom.
If Denmark has tenuous claims to Greenland, where does that leave the US "claims"? Even George Bush Jr. is embarrassed by the Trump's pretext for preemptive war!
Somehow, someway, a powerful faction within and above the Blob has pressured, convinced and cajoled Trump into this latest bout of spasmodic detours into belligerence and warfare, at the expense of any sense of the America First agenda, liberty-minded populism, or just the dang coalition of folks that elected him. He's lost his damn mind.
Astounding grasp of history. Hell yeah (1776 edition).
Greenland's resources are worth trillions and need to be redistributed to Americans. I hope that after he takes Nuuk, Trump takes Berlin and then all of Europe.
Of course.
Well, the whole point of ownership is invoked selectively. As someone pointed out, we are on "stolen land" 400 yrs later but the fresh-off-the-boat polygamous African muslim on fraudulent benefits is an instant American.
History is rife with colonization and conquest. Should Turkey give up Constantinople?
OK that's a zany example, but there's a lot of various realignments not that long ago.
We are living in a crude parody. And have been for some time.
Future archaeologists will be examining water pipes in our ruins for traces of lead.
So what do you think is this all about? Rare earths (which are not rare, as he himself is fond of saying)? Getting rid of NATO through the back door as the primary goal through means he can ambiguously legally effect without congressional support? Is it really the Nobel snub? Is he just as retarded – but differently – as the Eurotards?
It certainly is not the claimed reason – Denmark has been an ultra-accomodating ally in all things, including Greenland, and the only major military presence is already American with Pituffik SB (née Thule AFB). The idea that Russia or China might conquer it seems quite fanciful, or rather more delusional than the Swedish boomer obsession with Russia’s alleged drive to conquer Gotland.
It is possible that it is purely about humiliation. There are people who really do think the purpose of life is to humiliate others ... and not just their enemies. It's a rare psychological type, but does exist.
That's 50% of US Americans. And 100% of Western European "leadership."
I’m American. Yes, Trump is just as retarded as the Eurotards. That’s why he kidnapped a foreign president. They know America is finished and are just trying to loot the country and use our military as their personal bruisers while portions of it are still effective. Gold and silver have skyrocketed. Almost half a million Americans had their homes foreclosed on last year, and more are going to experience that this year. He is not trying to save America; he is trying to save America Inc., Ben Shapiro’s empire. That’s why they are not actually deporting the Bidenwave of migrants, have not focused on deportations in red states, are not taxing remittances 100%, and are not jailing employers.
Trump TOLD you. It’s about missile defense.
Just because Trump says something doesn't mean that requirements of logic and evidence are suspended.
It's only about missile defense if it impossible for the US to site the desired part of the projected missile defense shield on Greenland under current arrangements, or any negotiated variant thereof.
Can you show that this is the case? The evidence seems to be to the contrary.
are you a weapons expert now? And frankly, no one needs to show you anything. The Man wants Greenland, end of story. That is what Denmark did way back when - send troops, take it. You as a weapons expert, can do the same, you know?
You evidently think you're a sarcasm expert.
I'm not so sure. The issue in question requires no knowledge of warheads, range, guidance systems etc. The issue is whether the missile defense shield (whatever the technology may be) can only be placed on Greenland territory by the annexation of that country, and by risking the demise of NATO.
Trump has just lost himself and the US its international credibility by promising the Iranians that he would intervene (kinetically) if the regime started to slaughter them. This gave the Iranians the confidence they needed to risk (and lose) their lives. Trump then reneged on his promise. Even if, let's say, a military attack on the Iranian regime turned out to be a bad idea, the damage was still done by Trump's initial blustering - if he didn't know whether he could deliver, he should have kept his mouth shut.
You can take the "ra-ra, Trump right or wrong, MAGA forever" route if you like, but if Trump is shielded from all criticism and left to say and do whatever he fancies, the Democrats will regain their majorities later this year (already a high probability), resume the impeachment clown show, and then regain the White House in 28.
Sorry, I got whiplash - Greenland, Iran, geopolicy, MAGA, WH '28 - just missed Ancient Aliens and the pyramids to be complete.
You sounded like Biden when he asked "why couldn't they shoot them in the leg?"
And be all means, Im not sarcasm expert - but I do not opinionate when it comes to things I do not understand such as where to place weapons for maximum effectiveness. Way past my pay grade.
Trump's note to Støre is special, but also very Trump. Who is still surprised?
Having skimmed the US National Security Strategy paper in December, I wondered if Greenland has become such a necessity for the US because Europe is becoming un-Europeanized. If they lose all their military bases in Germany/EU when Muslims take over, etc., they could move their inventory and nukes there beforehand and still reach all targets in time if needed.
And if they "own" it, no one can tell them to leave—
which could be a real risk as things escalate right and left. Esp since the US seems to be done with NATO?!
Muslims are not taking over Europe.
Starmer has experience of how to transfer real estate to another nation without consulting the residents. Maybe he should advise the Danes.
What you do is offer the recipient a large amount of money, like a dowry, to take it away. Ref: Chagos.
Ah - you men pay off a bunch of people in a nasty little corrupt country (Mauritius) that has nothing at all do with Chagos, but happens to be friends with India and CCP? Just what activist lawyers Mr Starmer KC, Mr Hermer KC and Mr P Sands KC like.
I’m surprised nobody in the comments has mentioned the practical aspects of simply buying the place. Buying Greenland is, more or less, the US proposal. I think if they offered $2 million to every Greenlander, spread as $400k payments over the next five years as long as the next President doesn’t renege on the deal, you’d see that 85% opposition vanish in a heartbeat. The US could also buy some other lightly populated island territories around the planet while they’re at it. Not saying I do or don’t support any of that, but I think it’d work.
The problem is, there’s no legal path for the Greenlanders to just reassociate with the US. They can vote for independence, and Danish parliament would have to approve.
"Legal path" is such a fuzzy concept when it comes to things like this, though. If the US convinced the Greenlanders that they wanted to switch over, the functional legal path is "What the fuck do you think you're going to do about it, Denmark?" It's not pretty, but it is realistic.
It'd work out to about $120B. So it's not even out of our reach, so long as we manage to cut off the Somalis in Minnesota.
As Eugyppius says at the start of the article ‘a lot has happened since (he) last wrote’.
Bearing this in mind, I suggest a poll be held.
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or
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I thank you for your attention to this matter.
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There is sooo much material but don't write for the sake of writing, write when it suits you.
Good to hear - much appreciated.
As I told Alex B over the same issue. I am here for what you write, not how much you write.
Well, presuming Pres. Trump was looking for an excuse to relieve his nation of the burdens of NATO. His ever so sophisticated Eurobetters really showed him, eh?
“Copenhagen lost its tenuous control of Greenland when Denmark was occupied by the German Nazis in 1940. In 1941 the United States occupied Greenland to use it during World War 2. The USA built airfields to serve as refueling sites for trans-Atlantic flights, and as bases for anti-submarine warfare. (These airfields still serve as Greenland’s international airports.)”
https://open.substack.com/pub/steelcutter/p/on-purchasing-greenland?r=6vli5&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
Trump should kill NATO and the UN. Make peace with Russia and then do whatever the hell he wants. This will spell the end of the “English Empire” leading to them collapsing with whatever domino falls after that. Trump can rewrite the world order all the while putting China in the crosshairs. He obviously knows this. I’d also shut down the internet while I was at it and see how that works out for them. Europe would crumble within days. Allowing its repressed people to rise up and take back their countries kicking the Davos libtards to the curb.
You’ve done that in America have you? Cos where the rest of us are standing you’re in civil war. Are you going to nation-build us? Can you do us an Iraqi makeover? An Afghan one? Ukrainian? Gazan? So many to choose from I could be here all day but I’m sure it’ll be grand.
And what's it like to live here in the USA? It's like Sodom and Gomorrah. Complete lawlessness.
only in blue areas, red areas are pretty ok but appreciate people who recognise we are in a civil war, not many say it out loud