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I'm still shaking with rage that so many selfish people refused to tie an onion to their belt during the worst of the pandemic. Show me one study that says it doesn't prevent disease, Nazis!

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When I refused to wear a mask, I used to announce that I also wouldn’t avoid the cracks on the pavement.

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I so hope your mother's back is ok!

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😆 ha! Good one!

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Do you also run through the house with scissors?

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I would moo when the socially distanced line would moove forward.

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Baaah Baaaah

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Feb 22, 2023Liked by eugyppius

You’re supposed to cut open the onion and leave it on your bedside table at night. Or put them in your socks. Facebook told me so long before the pandemic even happened. SCIENCE!!!

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This is wonderful science to explain why you won't wear a mask. "Don't worry, I have an onion in my sock".

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yes ! i am sorry I did not read through the comments first. This is REAL science because it helps. proven and tried.

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Feb 22, 2023Liked by eugyppius

If only your mask beak were longer

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I made a beaked mask from cardboard and duct tape, complete with onion roots hanging from the nostrils, and wore it proudly to several social functions heavily populated by the crazed Covidians. Oddly, nobody said a thing about it.

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They were envious of your dapper accessories

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Beau Brummel lives!

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They probably thought it was a prototype of the next mandate.

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Genius.

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So I keep telling myself.

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Pics or GTFO 🤣🤣🤣

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Oh geez 😳

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😂🤣😂🤣

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I wore a plague doctor mask to some protests. It totally works, trust me.

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Well I heard it wards off the MIASMA from the dark ages!...;)

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Lol!

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Onions be for burns, or for lurvy soup when you'n be all stuffed up. You carry a dead chicken round yer neck for keep germs off. Oh wait that's for dogs that has killed them chickens. You prevent disease by walking widdershins round the graveyard while carrying a black cat in a sack. Science has advanced so much I can't keep up.

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And don't forget we went to the moon! With duct tape, reynolds wrap and software on a floppy disk. But now we don't know how to recreate that science to do it again. Science has gone so far into the future it's left the recent past behind and gone straight to the ancient past.

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It was the fashion at the time, after all

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I've been saying since the pandemic began: Pockets full of posies saved literally billions of lives from the Black death. I've had posies in my pockets throughout and only had covid once and have not been hospitalised or died. Clearly, pockets full of posies prevent hospitalisations and save lives. Why is the government not doing something about this obvious Posie gap in our pandemic response?

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You know what's next: "ring around the uranium".

Thanks to the US congress critters.

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Seriously, ya'all: you are not a horse, you are not a cow. Leave the posies alone.

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That's because onions don't work (only for horses). Stick a turnip down your trousers like every sane, unselfish person would do!

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Hey, is that a turnip in your pants or you just happy to see me?

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Youn can get a lorvy turnip at Baldrick's shop. The best ones really impress the wimmin folk.

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Though Mrs Miggin says that "he's made that hoses will last all morning".

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It would have worked better without the spelling errors that I now cannot correct.....

HORSES....

WILLY.

FFS

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Ha!

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Would this be a recommended protocol for women?

And/or trans?

Asking for a friend (no, really!)

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Wimmin is a mythical beast.

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Why don't other people put bananas in their ears to stop the alligators from coming to Sesame Street?

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Because that only works for crocodiles.

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

Onions? I thought it was supposed to be garlic cloves! I wore mine in public dutifully, removing them only while eating. It could have been so much worse!

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You're tribute has me all choked up Martyn!...:)

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Garlic is for vampires

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Yup. And even a vampire wouldn't take a vaxxed blood transfusion

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I never thought about them...... They'll be starving and the jabless will have to be more careful.

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Finally an excuse to buy silver and keep huge bunches of roses about the house.

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Are they the ones who do cricket?

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Look, I did tie an onion to my belt and only twice was I attacked by vampires, so don’t dismiss #Science.

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Those were IRS agents.

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How do you tell them apart?

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The vampires once had a mortal soul. So they will shy from crosses.

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Lmao

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Good one Paula!😆

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Thanks y'all! This thread gave me so many laughs I needed this morning.

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Onion? So 7th century. It's been shown garlic works best.

In the literature, I notice that even among onioners there's disagreement as they're divided along the yellows, whites and reds.

We need more RCT studies. It's just common sense garlic would be most effective.

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you forgot to mention Vidilia. We are all in here on Vidalia Onions in the land of the walking dead.

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I honestly believe someone was going to chime in with Vidalia.

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The Varsity Onion ring is the holy grail of onion rings...made with Vidalia Onions.

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as a matter of fact, it might be worth a try. We used to cut up an onion and put on the bedside table when we had a clogged nose. and it helped. (onions are antiviral)

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Oh, onions tied to your belt don't protect against deadly viruses, how ridiculous! We all know you should wear them to keep the alligators away. I've been wearing one for years and haven't seen one single alligator here in Brooklyn, which proves they work. I do avoid selfish and reckless people who don't wear them though, as I fear (as in abject terror) that they will attract rabid alligators.

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hahaha grandma Bear, I am sure onions work in Brooklyn against alligators. I would not venture too far in Florida though, the alligators there might not know about the onion trick. Jeez this is the crown of the substack today !!!

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Sadly an 85 year old woman in a nearby mobile home park was walking her dog near a pond. (A BIG NO NO DO NOT EVER DO THIS!! IN FLORIDA) when she was dragged in by a 10 ft gator. She did not survive. There is a video which shows she was sans onions at the time. I think that is proof enough. In all seriousness I can't imagine the terror she went through.

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Oh, wow! What a terrifying way to go! And, yes, I suspect onions work better here in NYC than in places like Florida.😉

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The real test is to brave the NYC alligator infested sewer.

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👍🤣 I'm going to be running for office (city council) this year, so I've invested in high, strong boots. Not sure how many alligators there are, but I will be venturing into an infested sewer, of that there is little doubt, lol.😨

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High boots are required wearing for politics. You might also need a pair of pointy toed roach stompers for some city ventures. Best of luck to you.

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I only wear a mask when I don't want to smell the onion.

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i hung garlic on my door

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Free range, organic, heirloom onion? Or generic yellow from StuffMart?

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Feb 22, 2023Liked by eugyppius

This is simply evidence of why reading the NYT for information is a waste of time. Now, if you want to read it to understand how people in Brooklyn think then you should go for it. I would recommend staying far away from Brooklyn unless you want some good pizza. You could also read it for comedy. For the midwits, surgeons and nurses wear masks in the operating room so that they do not breathe, cough or sneeze into the open wound on your body.

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and it's been known for quite awhile that masks in operating rooms are not effective either - the best they do is prevent the unlikely chance that a surgeon or nurse would sneeze or cough out huge globules of phlegm or other large particulates directly onto the patient. Silly. All of it is just silly. Nannies gotta nanny.

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True! When my self-righteous RN friend can't back up her argument for masking, she resorts to "Well, then, tell your doctor when he's operating on you to remove his mask." Now I can tell her that I didn't even have to do that. I had a minor office procedure done last month and the surgeon didn't wear a mask! (His assistant was masked, but 1 out of 2 is still a win for me.)

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It's terrifying that an RN doesn't understand the difference between virii and bacteria. Or why the masks are worn. They are not talismanic!

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Actually, Mek, masks are talismanic. That is EXACTLY why they are worn and worshipped, don't you know!?!?

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SatanCon 2023 requires the talismanic face diapers, the bioweapon clot shot and drag queens. Cuz science!

https://valiantnews.com/2023/02/largest-satanic-gathering-in-history-mandates-jabs-masks-and-includes-drag-show/

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Satan is horrified and won't be attending.

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I truly don't understand this. Isn't the rejection of societal conventions one of the purposes of Satanism?

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Virii… That’ll be the name of my next band!

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"Virii and Villi." You could be the next Milli Vanilli.

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Masks are worn during surgical procedures to protect the surgical site from bacterial contamination. Nothing to do with stopping viruses.

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YES--this is so obvious, why don't even the surgeons understand this...and then not very effective at preventing oral and facial bacteria from contaminating the open surgical site at that.

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A healthy patient's immune system is capable of dealing with almost any airborne bacterial invasion.

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My surgeon and his team all wore masks,cause they were drueling over their paychecks. 🤤

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There are studies, including a large (N=3000) one in orthopedic surgery and the Unmasked docs had *fewer* post-op infections.

They are merely fluid catchers, to protect the vulnerable incision, and keep bits of the patient off the lunch menu. Nothing more.

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There are several RCTs where some ORs were masked and some were not. In no case was there any difference in outcomes/infections/whatever for either staff or patients. It is just as much a fraud in the hospital as it is on the street.

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And they completely forgot all their physics lessons...like "jet propulsion" effects

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Yes. I often wondered if doctors put 2 and 2 together when they scrubbed in after fiddling with their theatre masks between shifts?

How could they be so oblivious/obtuse?

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I do not think I want a nurse or surgeon hacking horrendous hairballs anywhere near me. Mask or no mask. I like to think that somewhere during medical training the difference between the patient and a spittoon would come up just in case.

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Your being tended to by cats dessed as nurses?

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Well some did have claws and some were rather haughty....

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I do see people still wearing masks on my commuter train in the suburbs of Philadelphia. They are definitely a minority at this point and where I travel is quite Woke in some areas.

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I see people wearing masks when walking alone outside in the Bay Area. And my dentist still requires wearing a mask until they start running gear in my mouth which throws any amount of goop in the air. Personally, I'd wear a mask working there just because of the enormous amount of saliva and plaque droplets there must be floating around. Ewww.

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Surgeons, surgical techs and nurses wear masks in the OR so that the various bodily liquids (blood, feces, etc.) from the patient on the operating table don’t get in their mouths and noses.

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There was a study to this effect that I’m too lazy to look up

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I think you're probably referring to this study which showed no benefit from surgical masks in reducing postoperative wound infections:

Tunevall TG. Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study. World J Surg. 1991 May-Jun;15(3):383-7; discussion 387-8. doi: 10.1007/BF01658736. PMID: 1853618.

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Actually, there have been several studies to this effect. I too, am too lazy to dig into my references for them. Hell, all of us already know anyway. (The folks who do not know wouldn't believe the studies anyway!)

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Fortunately I am not so lazy. I think it is very useful to give people real evidence to cite, as using such evidence I have actually been able to convince not a few people to change their ideals on this.

Here is a 2021 article that "systematically review[s]randomized control trials on mask efficacy in the operating room as a means to preventing surgical site clinical infection."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590170221000248

Conclusion: "The results indicate no difference in surgical site infections between the operations where masks were worn versus the operations where no mask was worn."

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Thanks! SSI results seem to consistently find the same thing. The one about which I was thinking was earlier than this one, though.

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You're preaching to the choir here. You should give me your twitter handle so I can watch the entertainment when you have conversations with them about masking. You can find some of my entertaining exchanges @jimgleeson

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I long ago stopped getting into with maskholes. That said, my twitter handle is @wiltster where you may follow me at your own risk.

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Those words could have been taken straight from Tony Fauci’s lips the past three years… or decades.

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Yes. See the Neil Orr study from 1981.

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They also protect the surgical team from splashes of bodily fluids. (Oooops! Nicked an artery. Clamp that, will you?)

There have been studies on masking's effect on patient outcomes. They showed no effect. But why spend money on an actual study when surgeons will 1.) continue to wear masks to guard against splash; or 2.) continue to wear masks, because just like many other people surgeons are still liable to superstition.

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Also, to deflect blood splashes from *their* nasal and oral passages. Eyes, too, but obviously that's glasses and not masks.

In EMT school, it was always made clear to us that the gloves, glasses -- and if desired, masks -- were for *our* protection, not the patient's. But that was 10 years ago. I guess "Duh Science" has changed since then.

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Yeah, but folks in the grocery store without masks could spontaneously combust spewing fascia and blood all over you.

You can never be too safe Mek!....:)

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

I used to sometimes cause that to happen when I scanned someone's brain, but I don't do it in public anymore out of consideration for others who might get splattered.

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LOL.

Remember when the mask farce started to unravel and the new argument became that we should wear one out of respect for those who do?

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My pointless gesture protects you; your irrational fear protects me; and our fascist mandates protect grandma!

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

I never heard that specific argument, initially it was out of respect for or to protect others, before they came back to saying it protected the wearer also. I think wearing a mask out of respect for those who do is only valid if you want provide equity for the ugly. I initially made that joke about a year ago, but I recently saw a study, I think from Finland, where it showed that, actually, unattractive people were more likely to wear masks.

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Yeah it was GAME OVER when they came up with the most diabolical phrase ever:

"My mask protects you"

Let the social tyranny Hunger Games begin. No "tribute" was enough sacrifice at that point.

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That's sad, as I can tell you, I prefer an ugly face to a blank mask.

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

Ryan Gardner: I sure do remember that.

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Respect? Fu-k them maskholes!

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Feb 24, 2023

My favorite conversation:

Me: Masks don't work. Why are you wearing one?

Mask-wearer: I wear a mask because I have a medical condition that puts me at special risk to COVID.

Me: Your medical condition makes the mask work?

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I saw a tall slender young woman customer in the pharmacy last night wearing a mask in the checkout line. Most other customers were not. I believe that the pandemic and mask wearing has done us a favor by pinpointing those with underlying neurosis. They readily identified themselves. I don't know if it is because they really think they need protection and that masks will protect them (I doubt they're doing it for others at this point), or, as I think in a lot of cases, it has become part of their identity, like wearing makeup or perfume, as they feel naked without it.

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Genius

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How frustrating for you. Search, search, search. Finally a brain! Then, oops better not little Johnny might not take kindly to so many bits raining down.

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

I didn't scan for brains, I scanned particular brains. But I get your point and appreciate your empathy. I could only do it when I wasn't taking ephemeral, which prevented random people's thoughts from intruding on mine.

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That is a relief. I like knowing a brain mask will not be needed while I go about my day.

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I can safely say that I have been going to the grocery store for over four decades and no one has spewed any bodily fluids onto me.

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You must go to some tony ass stores. Our grocery store ran out of those "Caution Wet Floor" signs when COVID was at its peak. The lazier clerks would not even move the COVID dead out of the way before placing the signs.

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> You can never be too safe Mek!

This is absolutely *not* true. ;)

(Yes, I know it's meant tongue in cheek, but dang. I find myself *often* replying to some nonsense I've seen with "I do not *want* to live in Nerf World!")

I don't know what's happened in the last 40 years to convince folks that the world *can* be completely safe, or even *should* be completely safe. But it's damned annoying.

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Safetyism is big business.

We get what we ask for.

Look no further than the TSA

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Don't 'zactly recall askin' for any of this shit.

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You and I both. Probably one of the reasons why you and i saw through the civid bullshit

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I don't think they've convinced the people of East Palestine, Ohio that they are completely safe after the burning of 500 tons of toxic chemicals in their town.

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One of the main arguments for masking was so that you or others would not sneeze or cough on people. My response, "Just how disgusting were these people who went spewing snot all over creation until they discovered masks?"

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EXACTLY!

My boy, who was 9 at the time said:

"Dad, even if they do work, wouldn't everyone have to wear them perfectly everywhere and at all times in order for them to work at all?

Yet the obvious was apostasy to adults.

He was kicked out of school for not wearing his mask "right" after 3 days when the masks mandates began.

2 weeks later we moved to Florida

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I like how some of the commenters takeaway with was "if we only wore them perfectly all the time." The "constrained" view of humanity realizes there are only some behaviors within the purview of what we can do. Wearing a mask over our mouth and nose is not one of those things, nor should it be.

"It's only a small inconvenience."

It's a small inconvenience to not to be able to smile at people?

It's a small inconvenience to not to communicat with people?

It's a small inconvenience to not connect with people?

It's a small inconvenience to not smell things?

It's a small inconvenience to show much more than communicate with our faces?

It's a small inconvenience to allow the hearing impaired to read our lips?

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I like to breathe. I know it's weird and very anti-science.

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if only we had tried communism better, it would have been perfect!

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It sounded already like nonsense when they allowed ANY masks, for the LOOK. Like, pollen masks that only filter out big pollen particles and the description says so. But they never required face shields which would make more sense both socially and hygienically.

Masking served the purpose to cut off communication among people, in addition to social distancing and sheltering. Socially isolated people don't question the narrative on TV.

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Do remember in the beginning when they came out with masks for men with facial hair? I mean you can't make this shit up.

So, I have one friend who I convinced early on that it wasn't just a minor inconvenience. Now this was after he told me a "real" man wouldn't have a problem wearing one.

Anyway, he HATES mayonnaise. So I said hey; would it be a minor inconvenience for you if I slathered mayonnaise all over your face everyday?

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Add to that list the damage done to children who were required to wear them.

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And I can't get over the reaction:

"Study shows people don't wear masks perfectly and thus they have little benefit."

"Ah-ha! We just have to make people wear them perfectly!"

Wow, did you not read the part about how even motivated people don't wear them perfectly? And how many, many people are not motivated to care? Every person with a mask pulled below their nose _did_ _not_ _care_ about mask wearing.

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This is the constrained vs. unconstrained view. There are some things we can't do. We can't fly without an apparatus, we can't breathe underwater without a suit, and we can't wear masks perfectly for long periods of time. And we're not supposed to. The immune system is our mask.

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I challenge you to find one talking head on TV during the first two years who was commentating on masks that didn't start with this:

"We KNOW masks work "

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I don't think these people believe in the concept of sunk cost.

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Smart kid. Another assumption of this "science" is that masks kill germs instead of collecting them and spreading through hands.

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i had a double layer polyester mask with the Humana logo on it. i kept it in my pocket with dirty kleenex and soot, probably some Bubonic plague. maybe i washed it twice the whole time

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All of it was nonsense

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Yeah, I'm still stuck in Hellinois you lucky basstard! Someday, some way I'm gonna get my tired old ass down there buddy!

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Look me up when you do!

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good for you!

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Smart kid. Where in Florida are you? If I may be so bold as to ask. Not only would the masks have to worn perfectly everywhere by everybody guidelines as to the changing and washing them would have to be agreed upon. You can't have one person using cold water rinse on a mask worn for 3 days.

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023

Sarasota area.

Mask are worse than ineffective.

Example of REAL science:

If a masks has a gap anywhere along the perimeter of your face than it creates a jet propulsion effect, thereby projecting the virus further than exhaling sans masks.

Physics...but alas the scientific method was given as tribute to the vid sky gods

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I noticed folks with mask often coughed into them without covering or putting their face in crook of elbow. Sneezing or coughing into a mask is far worse.

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Our species is so lazy now we don't have the energy to pull a handkerchief or kleenex out of our pockets. So now we strap them to our face and just let em rip!

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"Wear your mask! There are people in our community who are at risk. We must protect them!"

But those people were similarly at risk from a dozen other threats (like the seasonal flu) before the advent of COVID. What did they do to protect themselves then? Whatever they did, they should continue to do it and leave me alone. They were responsible for their own safety before, why am I now suddenly responsible for them too?

When David the "bubble-boy" needed protection, his community made sure he had what he needed to protect himself. Nobody advocated that everyone in his neighborhood should likewise live in a bubble.

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Yes. Just so.

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This is a great point.

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Exactly.

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Yes and? There was a study done where they assessed infections in surgeries when masking and not masking. No change. I believe the study was done at John Hopkins in the 1990s. And why wouldn't those studies be done? Wouldn't you want to know if covering your airway in a multiple hour surgery be effective? Is that science to assume and not know? No. Of course these studies have been done and have been washed and hidden. Masks do absolutely nothing but increase your probability of getting sick.

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Wrong. In that study masks INCREASED the risk of infection. It just barely missed the 95% statistical threshold of significance. The best explanation for the counter-intuitive result is that the surgeons were deprived of oxygen by the mask and made more mistakes.

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I think one of the drawbacks of masks is that people relax other known methods of infection control because they believe masking makes them unnecessary. Perhaps this is true of surgeons as well.

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Because masking doesn't work to stop the spread of COVID, convincing people that they do encouraged people to expose themselves in public more often than if they had just been told "Socially isolate yourself as much as possible. Period."

I have to wonder how many cases of COVID could have been avoided had the ineffective masking policies not taken hold. (Not that I support lockdowns either. I'm just wondering if masking resulted in more infections because more people mistakenly felt safe in public because they thought they were protected.)

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Who cares. It has a 99.9% survival rate. Live life, move on.

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You should care. What if the same mistake is made next time, with a more dangerous virus?

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You made a statement with no supporting statements or facts. How do you prevent a virus? You don't. NO one knows how one person sleeps next to their partner who has a bad case of covid and doesn't get it. The list is endless. Doctors read books written by the people who sell the drugs and the devices. There is nothing you can do to prevent a virus but stay healthy and keep your vitamin levels high. There ia no way to avoid a virus. That is the point.

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I am sorry. Those books these doctors read do they mention hand washing? What about staying away from people when you are sick or very probably incubating a virus? Is not sneezing or coughing on kith and kin and various member of the public given a mention? Unlike the talismania of masking these are behaviors that will limit the spread of a virus. Staying healthy would be the best way but even the healthiest of persons do get sick. They however have a much better chance (not getting into the whole cytokine storm bit)) of a brief illness and full recovery.

I am unable to recall which study on the pros and cons of masking that showed one of the drawbacks of requiring masks, was just as I stated above, that people then grew lax in behaviors that are proven to help fight infections such as hand washing. There is also the fact that masks can very quickly get disgusting. That's a technical term.

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Feb 24, 2023

The truth is Paula there is no way to avoid it. My wife had covid and omicron. I slept in the same bed both times and waited on her hand and foot. Got nothing and have no antibodies. Flew on a small plane next my freind who was coughing up a storm. I got nothing. Sure maybe it helps to stay away and mayve it doesn't. One sick kid was recently brought around 5 others. All slept in same room together. The one kid sleeping the furthest away did catch her sickness. The other 4 did not. Washing hands? Naw. Germs are good for your body, I don't buy any of it. It's mostly all BS so someone can make a buck. And vaccines never stopped a thing. Check out the book Disolving Illustions.

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Than it's even worse than I remember. Since you seem to remember better was it John Hopkins? Do you have a link or links?

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NYT is far too tiresome to slog through. The paywall, in which they self identify as ‘independent journalists’ is a small, yet humorous, deterrent to reading it, in comparison to the ‘hyper-cleansed’ narratives it presents for public consumption. If they bother to fact check something as false, there’s a better than good chance that it’s true.

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I have come to learn verifying what's right and fair is easy. Anything politicans and the media repeat more than a couple times is total BS and the opposite is actually true.

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And to expand on that a bit, so they don't cough droplets on an open wound, not to block aerosols. And we knew COVID spread via aerosols, something masks are terrible at blocking, by about May '20.

Could we be honest? COVID was scary, people desperately wanted some way to feel protected and/or to feel they were helping, masks provided that belief.

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But Covid wasn't scary. The reporting of Covid was scary. But I guarantee you, if we gathered and did stories about any disease, there are bad outcomes.

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As someone else commented elsewhere:

"Imagine virus so deadly you need to be tested to know if you have it, and a vaccine so safe and effective that its uptake must be mandated."

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Yes. I can also hear this being delivered in Rod Serlings voice.

I get the oddest arguments when I am dealing with some of these people who are pro vaccine.

I threw up a couple graphs based on the ONS data and they are saying "well this doesn't tell us who was vaccinated." And my thought is "This vaccine was said to be 90% effective. At the very least we should be continually seeing lower numbers among the vaccinated PERIOD according to the assanine assertions made by the CDC and the WHO and whoever else spouted the "safe and effective" crap.

Also I know the ONS data is horribly incomplete. EL Gato Malo did a great job of at least explaining it, and linked articles to show more of it. I also think his point is spot on, the state should not be responsible for the data collection just as they shouldn't be responsible for investigating themselves on their integrity level in creating constitutional policy.

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Chicago for pizza.

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if you don't mind getting carjacked on the way

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You could stay in the suburbs of Chicago and find some good pizza.

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I live in the suburbs west of chicago- please tell me where to go- I can't find it- and I lived in in NYC for 40 years

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Doesn't your supermarket carry Home Run Inn Pizza?

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You might have to go towards the lake but the places are on the Northside so you should be sort of safe. Check out Pequod's Pizza.

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Pequod's is fabulous.

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NYC.

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There is a great show on YouTube called "Chicago Eats". There is definitely some good pizza in Chicago.

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ok I"ll check it out CS!

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I also thought it was a barrier in case of body fluids…sneezes sure but if you’ve ever treated a wound and had blood spurt in your face….yikes.

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It is true they are used for this purpose, but there is debate as to how effective masks are even for that.

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Depending on the surgery (e.g., orthopedic surgery), a surgeon may wear a helmet with a respirator.

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And bacteria are something quite different to viruses...

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You mean to the people who haven't been asked this question since 2020?

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You apparently place yourself below the midwits, then? Turns out there's not much evidence that masks in surgery have any benefits (based on measure of post-op infections.)

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I still can't get past this one thing.

That if you believe that masks work. Why are you so obsessed about me not wearing one. Why, for the first time in YOUR life are you all of a sudden concerned about me inhaling a virus. And if you are so concerned about public health, where are you on vaping, smoking, drinking, and dozens of other public health issues that cause tens of thousands of deaths every year. You're not protesting in front of any bars are you. The fact is we all know they couldn't care less about my health. They're just upset that I'm not in the fraternal order of maskers. Many of us know where this group think ultimately takes a society. Which is why I am against all "hate" crime laws and "domestic terrorist" laws....because we all know, that one day, we will be considered terrorists for not "going along" with the group think policy of the day.

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They're simply concerned that you might burden the system when you get sick, which could interfere THEIR ability to get treatment. So it's ultimately a selfish motive, on their part. These are, after all the same folks who said that unvaxxed/unmasked folks shouldn't get treatment - apparently only vaxxed folks who got sick DESPITE a) vaccination (transfection) and b) masking up the wazoo were worthy.

These are lemmings with a nasty disposition.

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I'm okay with the "don't burden the system" narrative. But I would like to invite that person to go spend a day with me sitting in the Emergency Room at Ben Taub Hospital here in Houston and let's see what's really "burdening" our system. You'll never see a CNN or MSNBC reporter doing THAT. It would destroy their narrative.

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no unvaccinated people i knew burdened the system. they stayed as far away from the hospital as possible. they paid out of pocket for their own IVM and got better overnight, some using the horse paste version. my BF and i got covid this past june. for me it was a mild flu lasting 2 days. for him it was 3 days. we did not use a hospital or even a doctor.

meanwhile, i get to read my morbidly obese "friend" in NYC who takes cabs a few blocks to work because he's too fat to walk and is on various medications (he has relapsed from bariatric surgery and gained back every ounce plus) calling for all unvaccinated people to "hurry up and die already" lest they swamp the system. i wonder if he would have said that to my face. i'll never know because i never intend to speak to him again.

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I am overweight and unvaccinated. I ended up in the hospital due to my diabetes and had my leg amputated. I will tell you those of us who are overweight know were Covid ranks in terms of the danger to them. When I was given the sales pitch for the vaccine from my doctor, I asked her if it would not be better that I take better care of my obesity and diabetes than to get vaccinated for something that I already had, that was experimental, that didn't stop the spread or infection, etc.

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This is intriguing. Details, please, I want to know more!

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Illegal aliens using emergency rooms as healthcare.

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nailed it. wall-to-wall.

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It's literally the entire problem, plus maybe urban homeless generally doing the same thing, but even there, there's overlap.

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I'm not okay with the "burdening the system" narrative. The problem is staffing and nurse burnout, and it's due to the state taking over healthcare that is causing it. We should be working to create a better healthcare system, not hastening it's demise.

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i took my late father to the VA ER one saturday early evening in november of 2019 (before covid). they wanted to put him in an ICU bed but there were no rooms in the inn. the ICU was SWAMPED, probably with selfish cancer patients keeping a WW2 vet from getting the care he needed.

the VA called two nearby large hospitals, one a world renowned teaching hospital and they were both full up. at 3:00am, the teaching hospital called to say an ICU room had opened up and we were loaded into an ambulance for the 2 block ride.

funny, there were no stories on the front page the next morning about the dire shortage of ICU beds in 3 major hospitals. Rachel Madcow didn't do any features on the situation. ICUs are always full.

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hospitals are businesses. full ICUs is good business. too many beds and not enough patients to fill them means MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN. Check out the hospital bed rates per 100,000 populations of the various countries around the world.

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absolutely. my point was that ICU beds are always full but during covid, the media was always panicking that they were full because of covid, then because of unvaccinated covid, now i guess of breakthrough vaccinated covid. it's always something

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exactly...I'm sure there are vacancies in ICU's occasionally, but the whole philosophy behind intensive "care" is that if you can provide...do it, so they are always occupied. Sure, the darker side may be that they are billing an insurance company a fortune for care that isn't mandatory. But that's another issue that's even more difficult to resolve.

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Great joke

Lemmings and all

We really are a bunch of irrational narcissists.

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founding

Oh they care for you ...like you live in East Palastine care....

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"Your mask protects me" was the most insidious lie of all.

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It’s safest in the middle of the herd. And sometimes the herd is in fact going in the right direction. If not, at least you have company while you plunge over the cliff.

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Oh I think all of us on these stacks are already on DOJ-FBI NAUGHTY LIST!

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and why was there no outcry against mask pollution? where did all those non-biodegradable masks and plastic antigen tests end up? in the land fill? in the waterways?

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Exactly....but they went ballistic when they found out that 100,000,000 cigarette butts got washed into bays of LA during a hard rain. But 50,000,000,000,000 masks no one seems to care about.

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They also went into hysterics about plastic straws. But dirty masks on the ground all over the place....not a problem, apparently.

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According to them, disagreement is hate.

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Feb 22, 2023·edited Feb 22, 2023Liked by eugyppius