NORD STREAM UPDATE: German media report that state investigators believe a six-person team, likely from Ukraine, planted the explosives at the beginning of September
NORD STREAM UPDATE: German media report that state investigators believe a six-person team, likely from Ukraine, planted the explosives at the beginning of September
The vague, anonymously sourced account emerges exactly a month after Seymour Hersh published his story on How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
An amusing aspect of this latest twist, is that all the earliest reporting had German, Scandinavian officials saying that this could only have been done by a state actor. The pipes are 80 metres deep! Encased in concrete! This is not something just anybody with a yacht and explosives could pull off!
Now the official line is indeed that it was pulled off by some randos with a vanfull of explosives who rented a yacht.
If it doesn't have to make sense, couldn't they just blame the North Koreans or the Iranians or something?
Why have government liars become so clumsy? You'd think with all the money they have, they could hire people to think up really persuasive lies. Next week they'll be saying "The dog ate my pipeline."
I am an old man. My last year of my '70's is about to start. Obvious lies like this told by our "leaders" have been a staple of my lifetime. Lots of reasonable questions unanswered/labelled as "conspiracy theories".
There is an old saying that a sure sign that you are crazy is when you think the rest of the world is crazy. When I see obvious BS like this attested to by all my "betters", I begin to wonder how I can be the only sane one. Eugyppius and this comment section gives me some hope.
Excuse me, I have to go order another gross of tin foil hats. I am going through them at an increasingly high rate.
lmao the Ukraine most definitely does not have this capability. Arguably so in the Black Sea when not being shot at by the Russians, but no way no how from a rented yacht in the Baltic. Poorly executed "information warfare" here, fodder for the idiot NAFO dog crowd.
Come on. This is a lie. They are muddying the waters like they did during the COVID debacle so as to create doubt and confusion. This has US intelligence agency work all over. What is sad is that the US politicians and 3 letter agencies will do anything to protect their power and are fine destroying this once great nation. US won’t have have much longer at this rate. This place is becoming a miserable nation led by liars and indoctrinators peddling division and fear.
Even if no one believes it, it does not matter. It just has to compete with Hersh' story, and by its very unbelievableness sows doubts, and people will stop to be interesting in the Nordstream issue altogether.
"Ah, so many stories about the explosion. No one can decide what is true and what is not, so just forget about it."
So Scholz goes to Washington, meets with Biden, no press conference, and then we get this new narrative. Clearly Scholz is a neutered and toothless lapdog if, in the face of an Act of War against Germany by its "ally" the USA, he's party to this ridiculous, insulting storyline. I can't tell which of our governments is more loathsome, eugyppius.
The only story more utterly ridiculous than Russia bombing their own pipeline (while leaving the one that runs THROUGH UKRAINE INTACT) is this farcical tale that half a dozen dudes on a pleasure yacht managed to somehow secure hundreds of kilos of waterproof explosive penetrator- dove down 200ft and secured them to the pipelines, cause you know the Ukrainians navy has lots of divers, and did all this without arousing any suspicion anywhere and evaded all surveillance. Bullshit.
Although... although... wait for it... imagine all this gear was donated by Germany to be used in crimea at some point.. and the Ukrainians used it to bomb nordstream instead. I almost want it to be true so that Scholz can do his cuck thing again
An amusing aspect of this latest twist, is that all the earliest reporting had German, Scandinavian officials saying that this could only have been done by a state actor. The pipes are 80 metres deep! Encased in concrete! This is not something just anybody with a yacht and explosives could pull off!
Now the official line is indeed that it was pulled off by some randos with a vanfull of explosives who rented a yacht.
If it doesn't have to make sense, couldn't they just blame the North Koreans or the Iranians or something?
Why have government liars become so clumsy? You'd think with all the money they have, they could hire people to think up really persuasive lies. Next week they'll be saying "The dog ate my pipeline."
But were the explosives placed in the shape of a plant?
It took them a month to come up with this? They need to hire better writers.
I am an old man. My last year of my '70's is about to start. Obvious lies like this told by our "leaders" have been a staple of my lifetime. Lots of reasonable questions unanswered/labelled as "conspiracy theories".
There is an old saying that a sure sign that you are crazy is when you think the rest of the world is crazy. When I see obvious BS like this attested to by all my "betters", I begin to wonder how I can be the only sane one. Eugyppius and this comment section gives me some hope.
Excuse me, I have to go order another gross of tin foil hats. I am going through them at an increasingly high rate.
lmao the Ukraine most definitely does not have this capability. Arguably so in the Black Sea when not being shot at by the Russians, but no way no how from a rented yacht in the Baltic. Poorly executed "information warfare" here, fodder for the idiot NAFO dog crowd.
This is obvious cover as USA realizes the consequences of being responsible and it’s clearly Swedish / Norwegian and USA op
Come on. This is a lie. They are muddying the waters like they did during the COVID debacle so as to create doubt and confusion. This has US intelligence agency work all over. What is sad is that the US politicians and 3 letter agencies will do anything to protect their power and are fine destroying this once great nation. US won’t have have much longer at this rate. This place is becoming a miserable nation led by liars and indoctrinators peddling division and fear.
I saw the NYT carried this narrative, but not a word about Hersh's findings.
That says a lot...
Even if no one believes it, it does not matter. It just has to compete with Hersh' story, and by its very unbelievableness sows doubts, and people will stop to be interesting in the Nordstream issue altogether.
"Ah, so many stories about the explosion. No one can decide what is true and what is not, so just forget about it."
It looks partly like a way to make the Ukraine look plucky and resourceful; worthy of more $$ billions and extra cocaine.
Saying that capitaine Cousteau's Ghost did it would be more plausible at this point.
I don’t know what more ludicrous, this story or that they believe the majority of public will buy it (yes, some will).
So Scholz goes to Washington, meets with Biden, no press conference, and then we get this new narrative. Clearly Scholz is a neutered and toothless lapdog if, in the face of an Act of War against Germany by its "ally" the USA, he's party to this ridiculous, insulting storyline. I can't tell which of our governments is more loathsome, eugyppius.
Funny how this comes out <1 week after Biden's meeting with Scholz, were alibis on the agenda - yet another coincidence!
The only story more utterly ridiculous than Russia bombing their own pipeline (while leaving the one that runs THROUGH UKRAINE INTACT) is this farcical tale that half a dozen dudes on a pleasure yacht managed to somehow secure hundreds of kilos of waterproof explosive penetrator- dove down 200ft and secured them to the pipelines, cause you know the Ukrainians navy has lots of divers, and did all this without arousing any suspicion anywhere and evaded all surveillance. Bullshit.
Although... although... wait for it... imagine all this gear was donated by Germany to be used in crimea at some point.. and the Ukrainians used it to bomb nordstream instead. I almost want it to be true so that Scholz can do his cuck thing again