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KenMcEntee's avatar

Kennedy’s book should be a mandatory read in high schools. Kennedy, meanwhile, needs to acknowledge that climate hysteria, like covid, is a tool of control, and he needs to retract his call to censor and imprison climate “deniers” in order to have any credibility.

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eugyppius's avatar

I would say, one should really take Kennedy seriously as a progressive Democrat, and that in this context his remarks aren't all that surprising.

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ChrisC's avatar

This reminds me of Obama giving a speech at the 2004 DemocratIc Party convention. "Hey, a black guy makes a nice speech, let's make him king of the world".

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Amy's avatar

but...but...he was so articulate.

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Clark's avatar

Yes, he was great at the articulation of empty words and promises. More recently at outright divisiveness.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Now I can see it to ,that we are in danger of running out of leaders .

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Ann Marie's avatar

Ah yes, as a native of Chi I can say, he was one of the most "articulate" community organizers to ever come out of Chicago, Wasn't it our present president who even gushed and gushed that not only was he articulate, but he was CLEAN... imagine that, being impressed that someone was clean ! Ah, politics and strange bed fellows as they say.

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

All one had to do was walk South Chicago with a lifelong local to get the reality of how the "clean organizer" got the area clean for extremely prpfitable urban renewal.

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Blessthebeasts's avatar

It was the same speech Democrats have been regurgitating forever. Sounded like Ted Kennedy in blackface.

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Justin's avatar

Yes, so much so that a NSA whistleblower noted that Obama's name appeared shortly thereafter on a list of people to monitor.

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lizzy36's avatar

As opposed to the current demented president, who can’t finish a single sentence even with his extensive “cheat sheet” & the VP who unfortunately finishes all too many ridiculous, nonsensical sentences (like telling the South Korean President that cultural ties between the 2 countries were evidenced by “Squid Games”).

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Rosemary B's avatar

agree.

It is sickening.

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Ann Marie's avatar

Friends, neighbors, and relatives and I just chuckle like it's some kind of comedy club; however, to have an individual who has considerable difficulty finding an exit and often will stand "frozen" until someone comes forward to take his arm or hand, who has great difficulty "remembering" how he even ascended a stage or platform (???), who falls and stumbles and walks with such a very strange stiff gait, and avoids direct conversation as much as possible, is really a very sad situation. Many say he's not to be pitied because he wants to continue in the position, but in some ways it makes me think of how people used and abused such famous (and very ill) people such as Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson, solely for their own interests, benefits, salaries, power, etc. Then, to have the "back up" an individual who just babbles endlessly in loops of the same words over and over, it's actually a very bizaar situation to have an economy, and the lives of so many millions depending on these two leaders !

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Rob Kay's avatar

Obama had/has charm, wit, he is handsome, nice family, social connections, excellent academics: here in the UK we would take Obama over the nitwit tree-hugger King Charles any day... Obama for King!

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Rosemary B's avatar

you can have him🎁

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Rob Kay's avatar

What do Kings and Presidents actually do?

Not a lot: they are largely figureheads who wear fancy uniforms, make politically neutral speeches to rally their peoples, and open new museums etc.

Obama is good at that. And that is all that is needed.

Biden and Trump were both totally useless - for opposite reasons.

Biden is a puppet, and Trump was a spoiled brat.

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Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Would it that Presidents did nothing. Most of what ails the U.S. these days was once the pet project of some President. LBJ gave us Medicare and the Great Society. Nixon the EPA and fiat currency. Not since Grover Cleveland have we had a President that did nothing.

Trump was far more effective than you give him credit for. His energy policy had the U.S. a net exporter of energy for the first time since Truman was President. Unemployment was low with rising labor force participation, and for four years we didn't start a new war. Sorry you didn't like the cut of his jib, but as far as I'm concerned, the man could have stood at the podium spewing profanity all day if he kept up that record and finished the border wall.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

i would always vote for a president who does nothing ,so I can manage my affairs ,properly .

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

The Obamas are emperors without clothes.

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Rob Kay's avatar

Much like the Battenbergs, then. (Our British Royal Family is largely German in origin, because we chopped the heads off the last lot of Scottish Stuart monarchs, when they failed to deliver).

All Emperors have no clothes: that is the nature of Folly. But at least Obama was elected, unlike our royal family: and for that, he merits respect.

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

Why chop when you could use a woodchipper?

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Chris's avatar

Obama’s “excellent academics” are as diaphanous as his principles. We were never allowed to see his marks. But, I agree on Charles.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Yes Rob Kay ,here is prove again that the smartest people live in England .

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Sorry. I am not a good judge of another man's looks.

But I could never get past those slender hands with long alien fingers.

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Credenda's avatar

Speaking of fingers, what’s with Charles’ hands? Fat and puffy and weird. Does he have some kind of disease?

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Lizzy's avatar

Rob Kay speak for yourself, I’d rather not have any of the over privileges dimwits lording over us. Also Scotland has problems enough now the fish has gone and been replaced by a leaders who declared there’s too many white people in Scotland.

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Ann Marie's avatar

Sold ! What method of shipping do you prefer ?

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

I read with alarm in a London underworld or underground newspaper that the bishop handling the Charles King making is very old and his vision is very poor .Now there is a possibility that the bishop may put the crown on the wrong head by mistake ,collapsing the British empire a second time .

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Christine Summerson's avatar

Regardless of whom one might favor for 2024, I highly recommend viewing or reading RFK Jr.'s presidential announcement speech from April 19, yes, the whole thing, rather than relying on others' interpretation and/or dismissal of it.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLrVWmt_33g

Transcript: https://yournews.com/2023/04/21/2557368/full-transcript-rfk-jr-presidential-announcement-speech/

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AnonRachel's avatar

The full transcript is unreadable, sadly. I really hope someone can show it a different way with normal print. In the version I see it is very light print (whitish) on a purple background. I think the transcript is SO important. I hope someone can help make it readable.

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GK's avatar

It's normal, run-of-the-mill black and white on my computer.

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Justin's avatar

Have you tried selecting, copying and pasting it elsewhere to read?

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Amy B's avatar

Wow I didn’t know very much about RFK or his run for presidency. Thank you for sharing his speech. He’s done a lot of good in his life and makes some very good points.

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RioRosie's avatar

I do believe he is very serious. A campaign for the US presidency is not something one undertakes lightly. (Unless one is Arkansas' Favorite Idiot Asa Hutchinson.) RFKjr is a valuable, important voice.

RFKjr presents a viable Democrat alternative to dementia patient Joe Biden--but only if Biden suffers a stroke, drops dead, or begins to soil himself in public.

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James Dawson's avatar

I believe two of those things have happened.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

The vice Presidentina would know she is always changing his diapers .

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RioRosie's avatar

AT LAST! We've found something she can do!

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RioRosie's avatar

Let's not guess which two. LOL!

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Leonidas's avatar

Amen on Kennedy’s climate alarmism. It may be his greatest weakness.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

If Kennedy changes from global warming to global cooling you can vote for him .

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Gary Lutich's avatar

A Cal State University professor made Kennedy's book mandatory reading for her class and had to defend (successfully) harsh criticisms from fellow "intellectuals and truth seekers." They made demands to have the department remove the book as required reading. If this is what happens at the university level, good luck getting it introduced at the public or private high school level. But I would still try if given the opportunity.

Here is a link to the article regarding the CSU Professor.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/lynn-comerford-the-real-anthony-fauci-required-reading-students-csueb/

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Fain Zimmerman's avatar

Also include the newest "Trans Agendas"! another source of chaos and confusion meant to distract from the real world.

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Rosemary B's avatar

so much "incoming" for our children to endure.

I think the trauma is damaging

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Why not vote for the three Stuges ,they always solve all problems to my satisfaction

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ChrisC's avatar

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. It's not hard or brave to point out that Fauci is a dangerous fraud and phony. Kennedy is a deranged left wing nut-job, who besides strongly arguing that "climate deniers" be arrested and put to death, said that the 2004 election was "stolen" by George Bush, and concocted a series a bizarre conspiracy theories surrounding his convicted murderer cousin Michael Skakel.

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J D Luca Lee's avatar

Thanks for the link. Yes, I concur “your enemy’s enemy is not your friend.” That Bobby Jr. happens to voice against COVID jab should not blind us from his florid or lurid statements as a progressive activist. He may defend COVID mandates deniers but, without a qualm, will gladly shut down, or more precisely according to his own words, “give death penalty or jail in eternity,” to climate deniers. I only welcome his candidacy as an opportunity to open up a debate on COVID policy in the Democrats’ primary, which is not at all certain at this point whether it will be allowed by the DNC. After then, he has no value for me as a national leader.

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

I now have a huge distrust of all the coopted political parties. They will be the downfall of this Republic.

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jotolo's avatar

climate change hoax

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

The climate has never changed in the last five billion years lets keep it that way ..

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Rob Kay's avatar

er: OK. I mean if you wish to transport back to a time when this planet was a swirling ball of red hot sulfuric acid, I guess we have no means of preventing you ... !

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

At one time before man or woman made global warming ,earth was a beautiful cloud ,it even had a silver lining .

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Rintrah Radagast's avatar

>climate hysteria

oh you sweet summer child

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Connect The Dots's avatar

Robert Kennedy Jr: “Climate issues and pollution issues are being exploited … the same way that COVID was ... people now see that it’s just another crisis that’s being used to strip mine the wealth of the poor and to enrich billionaires.”

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Agree. There is no need to "Build Back Better" if the goal is emissions reductions. A good read of the book Project Drawdown would show you that as well as finding the seminal work by Dr. William Kellogg published at the Aspen Institute. Imo saving energy and doing energy efficiency and EROI studies can move a global reduction of over 300 GT. (Maybe we should even ban crypto mining and CBDC''s as creators of unsustainable national energy demands)

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boscohorowitz's avatar

He didn't do that:

"Kennedy v. Biden

Filing Date: 2023

Case Categories:

Climate Change Protesters and Scientists Protesters

Constitutional Claims First Amendment

Principal Laws:

First Amendment

Description: Class action lawsuit alleging that federal defendants violated the First Amendment by by inducing social-media companies to censor others’ protected speech, including speech regarding climate change."

http://climatecasechart.com/case/kennedy-v-biden/

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TheLastBattleStation's avatar

I don’t think the average high schooler has the wherewithal to read TRAF. That said, I wish the book had a wider audience.

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SaHiB's avatar

He hasn't, yet? I'm disappointed.

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Tamenund's avatar

This is (obviously) an excellent critique of the book, but I have to point out that RFK Jr should be giving credit simply for writing something critical of an individual who basically everyone else in his party was lying prostrate before.

It's RFK's very name under the book title that gives this a credibility almost nobody else could.

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eugyppius's avatar

yes, I totally agree, i tried to make this point at the end of the first section.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

If he acts like he speaks ,vote for him ,but how do you know in advance ??

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Pamela Laine's avatar

Also, RFK got this incredibly dense but valuable tome out in record time.

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Suzi Smith's avatar

One of your criticisms of the book is that it does not really address the Covid vaccine and it’s dangers. Please keep in mind that this book was published in November of 2021. This was before most knew much about the many dangers of the vaccine. Of course, Kennedy, is well acquainted with the dangers of vaccines, but, at the time perhaps not necessarily this vaccine specifically.

As to your belief that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were not effective in treating the virus, particularly preemptively, or as an early disease treatment, I could not disagree more. I believe Dr Zelenko saved thousands of people. This also explains the low mortality rate from Covid in Africa, where these antivirals are taken with great regularity. Additionally, it stands to reason that they needed to demonize these antivirals in order to get the EUA. They also needed the EUA for scare tactics, and to make the way for dangerous treatments, like remdesivir and the clot shot.

Fauci may have been merely one participant in the broader discussion with regards to the entire debacle, but, believe me, there is a fiefdom, and Fauci has been at the head of it. I have personally known Tony Fauci for over 20 years. I live in XXXXX, Virginia and have knowledge that others do not. I am not saying that there is not an entire “Cabal” of evil doers. There is. But Fauci should never be let off the hook, or his influence watered down, for he was at the tip of the spear, and wielded tremendous influence and power.

I think Kennedys book is a must read for anyone to begin to understand how an entire world was upended.

By the way, while I admire Bobby Kennedy tremendously, I will never vote for him. I have learned a lot from him since 2012, but he is a Democrat. And I will never vote for anyone who allows their entire political party to be taken hostage by maniacs.

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eugyppius's avatar

low African mortality is explained entirely by population age structure. these are the youngest populations on the planet, of course Covid can't really kill anyone there.

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Justin's avatar

Would that explain Uttar Pradesh and their lower mortality numbers?

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eugyppius's avatar

it's definitely a province with below-average age, but I just don't buy the terms of the argument here, which Kennedy takes from Indian media, based on official covid stats. maybe someone can unearth mortality numbers, and compare across the whole pandemic to see whether UP is actually any kind of outlier regionally or seasonally.

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Justin's avatar

I think that the WHO's efforts to suppress any dispersion of news about their protocols says a lot.

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eugyppius's avatar

I have my own theory about what some of the skulduggery surrounding ivermectin really amounts to, but as it's highly speculative I won't advance it here.

I'll just say that two things are simultaneously possible, namely 1) ivermectin was suppressed in the developed west at least in part by coordinated actors for specific vaccine-related messaging purposes; and 2) ivermectin itself is not massively effective against viruses in the developed world where almost nobody is infested by parasitic worms.

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Justin's avatar

I like skullduggery. And it's always nice to read other opinions when it's outside my mental "box". (ie, help me turn my head in a direction to see something I didn't notice before).

I'm not sure #2 is properly worded, but I understand your sentiment. It may still be massively effective for viruses, but yes, we're not likely to be infested by parasitic worms, for which the animal version proved accessible and useful (for that purpose) and which I used effectively for myself and two likely hospital-bound neighbors to attack covid symptoms.

It's only that we were kept from using it to combat this virus that we took a look at it as a virucide and saw that it was good in that area as well.

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Witzbold's avatar

Have you followed Alexander Marinos' critique of Scott Alexander's arguments?

https://doyourownresearch.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-less-than-you-needed

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

But… years ago when tourists vacationing in Mexico were hit with

“ Montezuma’s Revenge”….Ivermectin to the rescue!

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John Bowman's avatar

Do they have a lot of elder care homes in Uttar Pradesh? We also have to remember the Covid ‘related’ mortality data is not to be trusted.

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pedrof's avatar

There are old people everywhere, yes, even in India, across Africa, and Latin America, not just in the morbid West. The success of such nations in suppressing the spread of Covid came down largely to the wide and free provision of home test kits including Ivermectin by certain governments and public health authorities. To dismiss these countries for their population age structure seems disingenuous.

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eugyppius's avatar

how many old people there are will absolutely, without question, massively influence the population fatality rate.

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Greg Deibert's avatar

Then why is the government mandating Covid vaccine for children?

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Rob Kay's avatar

I'm 69, my wife is 71, and we are both quite healthy: Our risk of death from Covid is zero. (and we have had it twice, and not been jabbed, so that is a a fact, not a speculation).

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Had what? The PCR "test" has never been validated as a diagnostic tool. One of the major presentments was hypoxic pneumonia for people who tested. This was in a major science paper which looked into a series of factors such as sputum, blood oxygen, white blood cell counts and more.

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Anthony's avatar

The average death age in the west from / with Covid was over 80. Africa is around 60 without Covid, so yea it can't kill anyone there, Malaria and Aids take that prize. And as for protocols and treatment for the poor population has anyone actually been to Africa?

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Rob Kay's avatar

I've been to Ghana twice for a few weeks touring holidays, and Egypt once for a weeks holiday - I think the vast majority of ordinary working people in these rather poor countries cannot afford any prophylactic drugs like this unless they are given away free at e.g child health clinics - I certainly never heard of or saw them in use, but I expect they are used sometimes.

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URsomoney's avatar

Zelenko had researched & devised his treatment protocol in early 2020. It wasn’t until the end of 2021 (before his death) that he realized the 2013 research paper in which he learned about the mechanism of hydroxychloroquine & zinc & based his treatment protocol on was authored by none other than Peter Daszak. THEY ALWAYS KNEW HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE WORKED!!

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IceSkater40's avatar

I understood the argument to be that saying early treatment was the correct intervention maintains the belief that an intervention was needed, rather than correctly stating that the policy was wrong, intervention wasn’t needed, and it should’ve been business as usual. (Off label prescribing is part of business as usual)

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Boom

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Pravo ,I vote for myself many times every day .Anyone needing a ''leader'' is better off getting a service dog instead of a politician ,to lead and critical thinking may be a good idea

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Rob Kay's avatar

Frankly the idea that 1 billion Africans take a daily dose of Ivermectin is utterly ludicrous. They do not. Please go to Africa and find out.

The reason why Africans don't die of or from, or with Covid, is simple.

a) they don't count deaths and record causes of deaths very well.

b) they are amazingly young.

c) they have super sunshine vit D.

d) they are not aware that Covid is a thing, so they are not frightened to death of it.

e) They spend much time outdoors, and have a low population density per sq mile.

f) they don't travel as much as we do - most folk stay local.

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Deuce Ad In's avatar

How do you know all this?

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Rob Kay's avatar

I've been, and these are common observations, not rocket science. I'm in daily contact with my many friends in Ghana.

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John Bowman's avatar

Can anyone explain why these magic cures for CoVid do not cure Colds and ‘flu the causal viruses of which behave in the same way - 10% of Colds being caused by coronaviruses in fact? The Ivermectin wonder drug myth is all part of the ‘novel virus’ fiction. Then there is the Vitamin D veneration which has overtaken the Vitamin C worship as the sure fire way to ward off Cold viruses. High skin melanin levels reduce Vit D synthesis from sunlight, this plus poor diet is likely to mean Africans (the real ones) have Vit D deficiencies, which would suggest Africa CoVid mortality rates should be higher... but then of course Invermectin to the rescue... or something...

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Cynthia's avatar

Are you saying he allowed this?

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

RFK Jr.'s book, read alongside Jennifer Bilek's investigative journalism, suggests that both COVID policies and trans policies are products of the bureaucratic-pharma-industrial complex that grew up around AIDS. The intense censorship and moralization around both; the legislation that makes deployment of very dubious medical treatments not just possible but obligatory; the astroturfing of "progressive" support (accompanied, unfortunately, by a lot of actual support from very dumb progressives); the incredible profiteering at the expense of actual health. They are twin heads of the same hydra.

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jotolo's avatar

Ditto for abortion policies -- another case where we are being gaslighted to believe that unborn babies are no human and worthy of protection

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Help me follow your logic -- abortion relates to the NGO/Pharma juggernaut that emerged around AIDS how?

Or are you just arguing that all the things you think are bad fit together by virtue of you thinking they all are bad? Which *is* a logic, I grant you.

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Barbara costas's avatar

In the sense that abortion is eugenics, not about "womens rights" as we have been programmed into parroting.

Ruth Bader Ginsberg said so back in 2009.

to quote her:"Frankly, I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we Don't want to have too many more of."

This is all about Planned Parenthood's agenda to provide abortions to minorities to reduce THEIR population.

The Democrats flipped eugenics into "Womens' Rights".

The main support for abortion comes from the Gates foundation, the Rockefeller Fdn. and it's covertly supported by the UN. These orgs preach and practice openly about eugenics

This propaganda about abrtion being about "womens' rights" keeps women on the Democrat plantation when the DNC could care less about women except fro their vote.

Proof? Men who claim to be the the real women have more rights than biological women according to the Dems.

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jotolo's avatar

Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger was a horrible racist and eugenics enthusiast.

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Barbara costas's avatar

yes and she was much admired by the Nazis who put her tenets into practice

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IceSkater40's avatar

I think the argument is that they make a certain group of people money. Which is true. The amount of research done with aborted baby parts is high. Sorta like the US continues to circumcise babies maybe in part because foreskin cells are incredibly valuable and used for everything from vaccine development to cosmetics.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

It's good to know ,that if I run out of money ,I still have my fore skin to sell .Thanks for reminding me Ice Skater .

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jotolo's avatar

Abortion policies are products of the bureaucratic-pharma-industrial complex as relates to abortion pills, for example.

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ChesterView's avatar

Could it all be about the Benjamins and power? No !!!!

Or - rather - of course.

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Jane Geraci's avatar

I appreciate this review. I feel that TRAF is a very difficult slog to read--I only made it thru it once and it definitely suffers from not having an index, so kudos to you for reading it not once but twice and offering some unique insights into a bestseller that was ignored by the MSM, yet I have seen nothing in it disproved either.

I think some things became clear to me thanks to the "Plandemic" as some have termed it: 1) the utter collapse of so-called "evidence-based medicine" in practice (clinical judgment and patient preferences completely suppressed and even actively opposed by expert assertions, mandates and "guidelines"); 2) support for the use of vaccines is a religion or cult--most especially amongst medical practitioners; 3) I pretty much agree with your assessment of the bureaucracies and am also thinking we worry way too much about respiratory viruses--having experienced acute Covid in me, most of my family and my patients--with nearly everyone recovering well and not a single case of long-Covid anywhere to be found--I came to believe every aspect of the Narrative was a lie.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Also, wasn’t it necessary to say there were no effective treatments for COVID to validate the EUA “vaccines?

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Jane Geraci's avatar

I have heard this stated frequently and suppose it is true, but it feels too simple and incomplete as an explanation for all the things that happened. One thing we have seen is that the definition of “effective” really varies. I am not convinced a single drug regimen can cure Covid or alter the course of its acute syndrome. The FLCCC providers and Fareed and Tyson appear to have had great success with multi-drug regimens, but to me many questions remain. To their credit, they were regularly evaluating their results and modifying their treatment protocols. THAT to me is evidence-based medical practice. Unfortunately we have an academic/public health and medical establishment that believes with religious fervor in vaccines and benefits from drug company funding.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

I agree completely… that being said, the CDC and Fauci basically banning any therapy and going after doctors that did told me that there was something arcane not being shared. The practice of medicine is also an art and why doctors guided by “first, do no harm” should be allowed to use their training, intellect and individual assessment to treat patients. I had late diagnosed Lyme in 96…I was treated with Abx and PlaQUINel…. Something about the mechanism of Hydroxychloroquine making the abx more effective in targeting the spirochetal bacteria. Would I have recovered on my own? Doubt it, I was pretty sick.

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Jane Geraci's avatar

Glad you recovered! Yea the authoritarianism of the so-called experts has been disturbing. It’s a sickening interference in the doctor-patient relationship. Frankly I’m glad I am near the end of my career as a physician! I am somewhat more persuaded that HCQ and IVM may work well as single agents for prophylaxis—but even that is not risk-free because nothing is. During the Omicron wave my husband I took IVM twice-weekly to prevent Covid infection—we traveled during this time to Mexico and around the Puget Sound. We stopped doing that after a couple of months and then contracted Covid.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

I came home from Cabo twice with an arsenal of Zithro and HCQ... grand total for one ten day treatment? $110. I never used it. I’m remaining on my Zinc, D3 and Quercitin program.... and until the FDA backs off with the virus fear mongering, I’m not getting a flu shot.Actually I’ve only had three in my adult life. I am getting the Shingles booster so I’m not anti shots , I’m just anti being conned.

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Christine Summerson's avatar

You might be interested in Mary Beth Pfeiffer's excellent substack about Lyme Disease denial: https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-child-can-no-longer-walk-before

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Christine, thank you! WOW! Here’s my comment I just left, it’s so outrageous.

“Wow!! A poster on another Substack shared this link with me...why?? Because, after 18 months of Medical Twilight Zone , I was diagnosed with late stage Lyme Disease. This was in 1996, I was 44. After testing negative for just about everything and being told I was “ crazy”, I tested positive for Lyme. I was aggressively treated with a course of IV abx and then a lengthy course of Cipro and....wait for it, Plaquinel! Yup, Hydroxychloroquine. And that is why when Fauci, etc declared HCQ to be ineffective and actually dangerous, I knew we were being lied to. About what all, I’m not sure. I know the vaccine would not have qualified for EUA if there was a effective treatment... so, there’s the entrance to this long outrageous rabbit hole we’ve all been shoved down.... my Lyme has never returned, I’m very lucky. I have two finger pads that have remained numb, but that’s it. My heart breaks for this lovely young warrior. “

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Christine Summerson's avatar

Jane and Mrs. MacFarland, Further to your conversation, I recommend Mary Beth Pfeiffer's excellent substack article, "A child can no longer walk. Before Covid there was Lyme Disease denial."

https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-child-can-no-longer-walk-before

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Years ago, I read Polly Murray’s “ The Widening Circle”.... she broke away from Yale and of course got ridiculed. Thanks, I’ll look it up.

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Martha's avatar

What Are FDA’s Criteria for Issuing a COVID Vaccine EUA?

https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-fda-criteria-issuing-covid-vaccine-eua-what-happens-when-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-fall-short-next-up-babies-toddlers/5775905

FTA: "...there must be no adequate, approved (i.e., licensed) available alternative in order to issue an EUA for an experimental product. That is exactly the language in the statute, and FDA echoes it in many of its presentations and documents."

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

And there were FDA long approved drugs and they were effective, HCQ especially. And hence the warp speed Lancet Study which was so faulty that it was retracted...but damage done! It is absolutely reprehensible!!

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Martha's avatar

Agreed. I think eugyppius does not understand the significant part the EUA definition played in treatment suppression and the vaccine only solution...

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Gwen McNatt's avatar

Agree, I found it very difficult to read. It seemed to me that he wrote it as separate books almost as it lacked continuity between chapters and some things were repeated multiple times (like praising his murderous uncle).

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Jane Geraci's avatar

That may well be! I thought perhaps he had some lawyer associates help with the writing, as it is so dense and heavily referenced.

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Leonidas's avatar

Excellent analysis. We are looking at Kennedy as a possible Presidential candidate here in the United States. I think his candidacy would be good for the Democratic Party- a bit of a return to old fashioned progressivism. This type of progressivism can actually touch libertarianism. It is where Kennedy’s venn diagram does not touch libertarianism that has me concerned and why I would likely not vote for him as President. He seems to believe in big government, but, for him, it must be the right big government. The problem that arises, as you state, is that it would matter little if this overweening government, its institutions and cronies, was pushing Ivermectin or the covid jab. It is still an enemy of peoples rights, the collective wisdom, and freedom of religion...end of story.

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TenSC's avatar

RFKJr’s choice to enter a “race” he likely knows he can’t win seems to me taking advantage of the game in politics where you have to run in order to bring your main issues to bear on official planks of the chosen party. It’s a game, and I think he’s doing it more for the right reasons vs. the pursuit of power & prestige most politicians seek.

I don’t know if it’s possible for a political “party” system to define its goals such that all their policies align with any single demographic. It’s always a choice between candidates or parties with the least set of evils vs. your particular world view. I don’t have insight on better systems, so an eyes-wide-open individual is left to decline participation or to decide to support whoever leads with the most important issues for their conscience (while most politicians mainly do so for the best interests of their pockets).

It’s a shit-show out there regardless what country you’re in. RFKjr is bringing out two of my biggest issues, medical freedom and corruption in the entire Big Gov, Med, Pharma, Intelligence Agencies, and general private-public partnerships/NGOs that once revealed, collectively leave little doubt that a New World Order zealotry would embrace.

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Barbara costas's avatar

but the Dems have just stated that there will be no primary debates so he will not get that national audience opportunity.

moreover, ABC News has admitted to editing out his comments on Covid in a recent interview.

He is being censored by the Dems.

Isn't it funny-how the Dems invoke "democracy" but then won't even engage in discussion and debate!

actions speak louder than words

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

And big media is already going after him as we saw with ABC and their hatchet job on him.

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Justin's avatar

I fear that Kennedy could easily be painted as a 1 (or 2) issue candidate, and not only does he need to help dismantle part of the bureaucracy here in America and the profit motives behind government action, but to deal with an ever-increasing international tension. The climate crisis component is overblown.

I agree he would be good for the Democratic party (and I'm conservative), because the party itself has become an uncritical mass of lemmings moving towards the most shrill and illogical voices, and are so fearful of standing up individually to say "enough is enough". Actually holding people accountable (with prison terms!) would do a LOT to temper this nonsense.

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CK's avatar

RE: RFK Jr’s POTUS run, I don’t think it’s going to be a blip. The only MSM that gave him a chance to speak was Tucker Carlson afaik. The only coverage he got/gets anywhere else is that he’s a dangerous antivaxxer. The Dems are not going to have any debates, even if by some miracle RFK is leading in the polls.

I think a recent poll had him at 20% among Dems, which is pretty good considering. If the system were fair he might have a chance but the system is a hell of a long way from fair. My hope is that he peels of and runs as an independent- that would be pretty interesting. He seems to have a pretty rabid cult following, much like Bernie did before he sold out and much like Trump does now.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

And the DNC has to be a bit more delicate with Kennedy than they were with Bernie. And I don’t think dangling a vacation home in front of RFK is going to work. If the DNC and their media acolytes do their usual hatchet job, the optics might backfire…… that why I will give Kennedy a pass on climate change because I think it will not be his top priority. But cleaning house of corporate influence will be. I hope.

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CK's avatar

His stance on global warming and 2A are dealbreakers for me.

I think the main difference between Bernie and RFK Jr, at least from a political perspective, is that Bernie enjoyed broader support. He was and is allowed to talk on TV as well. RFK will get 0 minutes to deliver his message through the idiot box now that Tucker is gone. It will only be hit jobs on TV and in print MSM. Too many people still rely on this.

Hoping for a run as an Independent. I won’t vote for him but it would make things more interesting.

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Aaron's avatar

It would make things more interesting, but I think those who expect it to have a salutary effect on the Democrat Party are being naive. If Kennedy becomes the nominee while still a heretic on Covidism, Democrats will simply forget they were ever Covidians. They will blame Trump for the lockdowns and mandates as if 2021 never happened.

On the plus side, at least they wouldn't be pushing lockdowns and shots anymore. Unfortunately, they'd just shift that authoritarian energy back to climate hysteria, race-baiting, and the rest of the woke platform that Kennedy seems completely on board with.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

I agree, I just welcome him calling out the Democratic Party. Wolves in sheeps clothing..at least Republicans admit being wolves…..

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Gary Lutich's avatar

I live in Arizona and just learned moments ago that Northern Arizona University (NAU) in Flagstaff is giving an honorary doctorate to Bill Gates at commencement in a couple of weeks. I'm speechless.

If there are any NAU alumni, current students, parents, and Arizona residents that find this equally appalling as I do, we need to contact the University President, State Representatives, and the Board of Regents to stop this!

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ArnoldF's avatar

the entire academic apparatus has its bread buttered on all sides by the medical-pharma-industrial-complex that Gates represents as the critical lynchpin. I hope your protest gains traction, but Gates is of the protected class of global psychopaths--his father was chair member of the board on Planned Parenthood.

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maisyrusselswart's avatar

We'll never escape the virus management freaks until the General public comes to reject interventionism in general. The war machine (post WWII in particular) is the foundation of the idea that all can be overcome through mass action - "we beat the nazis and imperial Japan at the same time, we can do anything!"

The forces that brought us the pandemic are quite similar in form as those that brought about the globo war on terror. None of these failures slow them down a bit. Next will be a currency/economic reformation where the same top-down doltery is enforced on us all once again.

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SCA's avatar

Excellent, excellent, excellent. This is why I love you; because you're meticulous and an honest analyst of data and willing to go wherever the facts point.

RFK Jr. has obsessions rather than missions; he's as establishment as they come; he will never go so far as to completely alienate the funding universe that he'll need for his political ambitions.

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WestCoaster's avatar

Didn't read his book did you? RFK jr certainly won't be getting ANY donations from BIG PHARMA. If you even tell a little truth about the medical mafia guys you'll never see a dime.

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SCA's avatar

He won't need that Big Pharma money. Plenty of other cozy networks for him to drink from.

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Jim Reagen's avatar

Agree. There's huge money in fighting climate change, and by the way isn't Klaus Schwab fully on board the climate catastrophe agenda? Yes, he is!

So here's what I see: the end goal is a police state. They don't give a crap whether it's a climate police state or a pharma police state, because one enables the other. So if I were Klaus, I'd let Kennedy loose, support him, be OK with the "mistakes were made during Covid" narrative and even support that narrative, get Kennedy into the White House after the left forgives him or sees he was right, then in a few years have a barrage of "climate emergency" scientific publications which our good president will have to act on to save the very planet. Sort of like flattening the curve for three years: temporary restrictions, of course, nothing like "the world will never be the same after Covid" shtick that Klaus was trying to sell us.

Good thing Klaus and company aren't smart enough to figure that out, right?

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Barbara costas's avatar

There are not going to be any more unauthorized presidents.

The uniparty/globalists learned that lesson back in 2016

They are reminding us- continually-of who is in charge.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

Robert Kennedy Jr. threw his hat into the ring. He is a bleeding heart liberal, something I am not. However, I admire this man. He is intelligent and calls a spade a bloody shovel when needed.

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SCA's avatar

The Kennedys unfortunately, in my view, are all mediocrities and there's not an original thinker in the family.

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RioRosie's avatar

For a variety of reasons, not the least of which is a captured mainstream media, RFKjr has no chance of becoming president. HOWEVER, his candidacy could accomplish one important goal: forcing a discussion of the Covid politics: the lockdowns, mandates--masking & vax--and other bureaucratic excesses.

Let me add this observation that makes me chuckle about RFKjr's quixotic candidacy:

For 40+ years, the Democrat party has longed for another Kennedy. Now? The party has one--but it's not a Kennedy they want to embrace.

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Gwen McNatt's avatar

The MSM is doing their best to shut him up about vaccines and COVID. Editing out his comments.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

The covid cult will live on into the future ,as long as there are mask wearers ,they will also suck up any injections even if the person beside them drops dead from being shot with Pfizer venom .Just a short shopping trip proves what I say .It turns my stomach when I see two or three year olds ,beside so called parents masked like tiny bandits ruining their health and enjoyment of life .I feel that I want to see as little as possible of humanity if that is what humanity has become . Masking is practiced by about 35%of adults where I live ,on the beach alone or driving alone .That medieval activity is sickness of the mind ,that is there for all to see .What we cant see is most likely even more disgusting .

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ChesterView's avatar

What state do you live in? Just curious. I live (mostly) in Texas and don’t see much masking. Well, aside from the occasional trip to Whole Foods. ;-)

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

Chester I live in the communist state of Canada . JOE

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ChesterView's avatar

My deepest condolences. Canada, for me, is unrecognizable now.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

All it took is voting for a half grown criminal punk to turn a country up side down .Voting seems to be almost as dangerous as playing with nukes .

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Decaf's avatar

This is an important counter-balance to Kennedy's book and its discussion to date. So far the people I know are either totally sold or oblivious.

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turtle's avatar

I totally agree with your last paragraph. Even with flu shots and handwashing, we still have flu seasons (except, of course, that time when we all wore masks and the sick people mostly had COVID-19). When "asymptomatic" healthy people are considered to be a health problem, well, that kind of thinking is a problem.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

What percentage of the population would you guess hasn't been sick at all since January, 2020 and is unjabbed?

And how would you compare that estimate with an estimate of the percentage of the population that would go similar time spans without sickness before 2020?

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Alan Schmidt's avatar

Excellent review.

To Kennedy's defense, he has gone after several vaccines, to the extent a recent interview explicitly stated they cut his talk about vaccines in general and their links to slew of different adverse outcomes. While he sounds technocratic, saying "if we only followed this policy things would have gone better", if you read some of his others works he has a very real fear of the medical tyranny entering the world.

We've reached a point where now even many medical questions are out of bounds for peons to investigate, and the window of discourse not closes ever tighter to protect democracy. I hope he gets the nomination not because I think he can turn it back, but because the faster these bureaucracies go full mask-off, the faster they lose their legitimacy.

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RSgva's avatar

As evidenced by its title, Kennedy’s book was not intended to be a total guide to the Covid story. It was focused on what was known at the time about Anthony Fauci. As you acknowledge, the purpose was to take him off his pedestal. Also recall that it was published in November 2021, which probably means he finished the manuscript in the middle of that year before he went hunting for a publisher etc. So some of the later discoveries would not be in there. At this point, it probably would need an update (by somebody else under the circumstances).

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Jim Brown's avatar

Thanks for such a well-balanced review. I read the book and was mostly impressed by RFK's careful documentation of his stated data and facts, which was rare during those hysterical Covid days. Your characterization of the "bureaucratic neural network" (as I understand your meaning), which seems to have a life of its own, is helpful in explaining what many think is systematic conspiratorial oppression. The bureaucratic reaction is systematic but not really deliberate. In such networks, which hold great political power, many neural nodes can simultaneously respond to outside incentives, resulting in a coordinated system-wide response that, in a weird way, resembles the "unseen hand" of the market. I am getting a new respect (not admiration) for bureaucracy.

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Cindi's avatar

Re RFK Jr, i admire him (esp as a Dumocrat) for taking on WuFlu & St. Faux-Xi, but as you point out, E, too little-to-no focus on all of the more tyrannical aspects that were forced on people globally. I know conservative people who defied it all yet are all in for RFK on this 1 issue. But he’s an eco nut & the green tyranny (probably coming soon) is just the other side of the same COVID coin. He may not like the pharm industry but he probably loves the green shit.

It could well be true that Hydroxy & Iver might not be as “magic bullet” as billed; however, the fact that they were not only shrilly & hysterically attacked but actually BANNED in lots of places (including vet supply stores) & a manufacturing plant that made one or the other burned to the ground @ the height of that hysteria leads me to believe they were over the target as real treatments.

And since they would have been prescribed off-label had they been allowed, what harm in that if doctors & patients were willing to give them a try. Also, since they would have been prescribed off-label & not as a definitive treatment (at least not until proven otherwise), that off-label status shouldn’t have precluded EAU quackzines from being rolled out.

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rickrolled's avatar

Great points.

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