Slightly off topic from this post, but it appears to me that, when the dust settles eventually, the entire covid vaccination saga will have made people suspicious of _all_ vaccines on an unheard-of scale. What do you think?
Canadian here too: think of it, a doctor or others can now offer to kill you! A person can commit suicide all by themself. They're asking your permission to kill you! There have been reports of veterans being offered MAID by veterans organizations. I remember hearing in other parts of the world where veterans who had hard lives because of injuries incurred during battle being given a revolver by authorities with the suggestion being obvious. Same thing,
Oh I am sure our "medicare" won't be far behind. I would like to know if these things are happening in Canada (and coming our way certainly) because the people feel they have no choice ? Or, do the majority of Canadians actually support these "progressive thinking trends" and vote FOR them ? Like the United States, the people, the culture, the history would seem so very very opposed to such thinking and government ! I would have guessed Canadians to have a similar view of personal liberty as U.S. citizens... but for both our countries that seems to not be the prevailing sentiment ! ! ? ?
I am expecting they will go further with this and make Super Fentanyl available to anyone who wants it --- things are gonna get really grim when the Bossche Mutation arrives... and they'll want this in people's medicine chest so that they have an way to opt out of the horror show
I wonder if the people in favor of the government being involved in MAIDing people are paradoxically opposed to capital punishment, which is also the state killing people.
Celayne: Of course, capital punishment does not compare to assisted suicide or coerced suicide. But the people you refer to are not concerned with analyzing their "convictions," they simply go along with the liberal mob in compiling the list of what is "acceptable" for them to "believe in."
Yes, exactly, and so many factors involved in the "turning of the tide"; continuing gradual changes in "free public education" by dropping "difficult, useless, and boring subjects" such as history, economics, civics, government (including study of U.S. Constitution/Bill of Right/amendments. Gradual crack down on Christianity and other spiritual practices, ever increasing reliance on government for financial and social needs, gradual intrusiveness into medical history, privacy (questions like do you have guns in the house, do you have a pet, if so, what kind of pet, etc.) and it's like a police investigation; meaning unless you take each of these changes, post them on separate pieces of paper, and attack them to a wall in a contiguous configuration....otherwise, people barely recognize what is actually happening ! Gradual deterioration of all the factors that hold societies together, go check out history. Russian "revolution", close down churches, "adjust" schools/education, Roman distraction, interest, fascination with spectacles if barbaric human torture and killing, Germany, one one example of "divide and separate" to make a specific group your scapegoat (al la Saul Alinsky's book ) as a tool for obtaining your own end goals, and many, many more historic examples. For more, read the history of how drug addiction destroyed the ancient culture of China, an advanced culture that once venerated their elderly, made many significant scientific discoveries and inventions, valued family and life, etc. We seem to never learn from the history of the world, to value it, to teach it, and most of all to see the WHOLE picture of the direction we are headed. Puzzling ? ?
Only children and those who attempt to remain as children can realistically be called innocent. No one else.
The be adult as in a fully independent living man or living woman is to take full responsibility and accountability for who and what we are and all that we do - no if buts or maybe permitted. That's life
The very fact of being present, of seeing, hearing, feeling, is to be a part of all that is - only a child who is yet to come to full awareness of presence may be excused this simply reality.
Yes, picky point. However, I know that “adults” are only fully independent when they make the choice to be and commit 100%to that. Victims only choose to be victims by giving all their power to the “bullies”.
You know, victimhood is so in vogue. Kinda like Shillinsky.
In USA our only access to any important stories the might be "troubling" to the "official government stance", is through ONE network only. Most individuals who "lean" toward a more liberal view, usually miss many important stories as the network is viewed as "conservative" and therefore not worth considering ANY of the news reports. However, they carried a story of a Canadian man's trials and tribulations in trying to find a doctor who would even attempt to treat the devastating effects of his Covid vaccination(s). Like here, side effects, even very serious ones, are considered "coincidence". It you happen to have worn a blue shirt to your injection appointment, the skin rash, numbness, or partial paralysis that resulted (and got worse following the second and third shots, is usually explained as a result of wearing a BLUE shirt, NOT anything to do with the "prevention vaccinations" ! !
Eugyppius, being pretty level headed and rigorous, you should start a sideline in (re)evaluating the claims of the pre-covid anti-vax movement now that we know that _some_ vaccine/pandemic pushers are a lying cabal. Not least because many wonder just how useful an ally the likes of RFK Jr. and that whole American scene may or may not be.
Rightly so. Vaccination as a means to simulate an attenuated natural infection is sound in principle and may well be less risky overall (but not necessarily for everyone) than a natural infection for certain infectious agents. However, given the shenanigans pulled for covid-19, it is absolutely fair to question the (potentially dubious) standards of evidence for safety, individual risk/benefit, and effectiveness for ALL previous vaccines given the sheer complexity of human immune systems and the consequences for long-term health implications of such interventions.
I see a further aspect to this: Consider a bona fide expert or industry leader in the field of "traditional" vaccines, of the kind that are said to provide real immunity to the respective disease (e.g. measles, polio), an expert who is genuinely convinced that "his" traditional vaccines are safe and effective. Shouldn´t such a person be the guy who has the most interest in preventing ineffective and dangerous medication to be sold unter the label "vaccine" and consequently be the loudest voice against our current crop of covid vaccines? The fact that the "classical vaccinators" did not raise their voices (for the most part) makes me suspicious of how confident they really are about the quality of their own products.
...except that "infection" doesn't work that way. The ONLY things that can make anyone sick are malnutrition, parasites, and/or toxins (and EMFs ARE TOXINS). A bunch of ppl coming down w/ the same symptoms in the same place at the same time just means they're all suffering from those same stressors.
Not so fast Freddie. Some more homework might be needed as Germ theory does not hold up so wanting something to be true is not the same of it actually being true. Vaccination theory rest on the supposed bedrock of Germ theory which is crumbling. Illness my involve the processes well identified but that does not explain WHY those indicators are appearing. Science still cannot tell us what gravity is or magnetism is beyond that they are forces 'from somewhere or something' and these are the signs they exist. What makes these forces exist - silence.
That's the thing about a well laid psyop trap -- once you catch the prey -- even if one shows the victims that it was a psyop ... they will continue to remain trapped...
Was it Twain who said something about how difficult it is to unfool someone?
Doesn’t that rather depend on the severity of the infection? Vaccination often reproduce a mild case of the disease anyway, so why not just get the disease if it is mild? CoVid being a prime example. It was mild or virtually undetected in 99%+ and only fatal in elderly sick people who were going to die anyway. More young, fit healthy people are dying now from the so-called vaccines than died from CoVid. Of course it is the case that childhood diseases are promoted as being devastating to boost sales of vaccines, whereas they are mostly are not with a few exceptions. The primary reasons why epidemics and severity of these diseases declined (and before vaccination programmes) in Western Countries are better personal hygiene, better sanitation, better nutrition and in the case of TB, antibiotics. Polio is a virus of the gut spread mostly by contact with infected fæces, so good hygiene and sanitation will greatly reduce spread - and in any case it is only serious in 1 to 2 cases per 5 000.
I agree and amplify. Even many routine drugs are ineffective and the authorities (should) know it. This is one of the open secrets of medicine. It's not a new problem by any means, but it was "new to me" when I started looking at it last year. For those curious, my Substack has several articles to the point.
That's happening already - fewer children are vaccinated than pre-measures. It remains to be seen if the nunbers bouncebsck but I suspect they will remain lower. If you were slightly on the fence re: vaccines, most likely the last three years have killed your confidence entirely.
California requires school children be vaccinated for measles. The state believes that if one child is unvaccinated, all are at risk. That situation was disproved some time ago, but the requirement stands.
But in effect, all school districts slavishly follow the "guidelines" from the CDC, no matter how obviously corrupted by the massive amounts of money to be made for Pfizer etc.
One of Germany's inexhaustible supply of inept "Minister" made measles vaccination mandatory - for teachers and for students and kindergarten teachers and students. No other mandatory vaccines as far as I know of.
I think it has already happened to many people. I got my children all the required vaxes, including chicken pox, until Gardasil came out-- then I had to fight my pediatrician about that. I didn't want to do chicken pox either, but my older child got a "probable" very mild case and I had to quarantine for two weeks. That was awful, and I eventually got her the shot because almost every other kid had one and it was unlikely she or my son would contract it. As I didnt' know whether or not she'd actually had it, I didn't know that she'd be immune as an adult. Giving everyone that shot when no one had any idea how long the immunity would last seemed crazy to me, but as far as I knew the risks were low. Not so with Gardasil, which I thought was far too hurried, and was being pushes as a public health measure in lieu of trying to get people to stop being promiscuous. About this time I started noticing that flu shots, which used to be recommended only for the elderly and those at risk, were being urged on everyone. Doing some research into public health for my work at the time, I developed a healthy and well-warranted skepticism for the people in it and the work they did.
So I was quite ready to distrust the Covid response--but the shot mandates still shocked me. I could not believe they were being pushed so hard for what was obviously no real medical reason. Recently I read that hepititus A shots for kids were adopted because this is a disease promiscuous gay men get. I don't know if that's true but at this point nothign would surprise me. If people stop getting the essential shots and children once again start being harmed by returning childhood diseases, we have our public health people's huge overreach to blame.
This whole mess has opened my eyes to the evil in the world, and the likelihood that liberals perpetuate that evil, either by being evil, or by backing evil people.
Covid 19, the attempts to cover up everything about it, the censoring of all information not following the narrative, and all the outright lies coming from the very people we should be able to trust has set the medical profession back 100 years.
This is NOT a "both sides are equally bad" cringepost, because it's clear that right now the systemic threat is so much greater from the left. But that said, the last time the right had real influence and a seat at the official table of power in the US, they gave us the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars and the Patriot Act, setting up the national security state and spying apparatus now being used against its own citizens who stand up against the Uniparty/WEF agenda.
This was not a case where the leaders did X in spite of their constituents. The vast majority of the right wing voters went right along with the "if you're not with us, then you're with the terrorists!" rhetoric.
My point here is that the right can easily be duped, using their values, and cultural and emotional triggers, into supporting things that are vastly evil as well. I think the left can't win if we are to have any hope, but that we need to be very careful that the right doesn't get duped, either. The right winning this power struggle is necessary but not sufficient.
This is a very good point, and I wonder if tyranny isn't periodically flipped from one "cheirality" to the other on purpose. Individual people need to develop red-line principles to protect themselves from this. I spent the early part of my life on the "right," but flipped to "left" when the Bush administration launched their unprovoked assault on Iraq. I switched back recently in 2020 with the explosion of extreme wokeism and vax-covidianism on the "left." I didn't necessarily change my own fundamental opinions very much on either occasion.
To their credit, I'm seeing that a lot of Trump supporters seem to have no sympathy for the neocons and their wars.
All good points. Additionally, I believe there is also a significant number of individuals in government and just the general population, that regardless of what party they claim, they hold the deep belief that war does fuel our economy and provide employment ... perhaps they have never stopped to analyze what other factors could serve to fuel the economy ? Steel, oil, even "simple" manufacturing of such goods as furniture (with added benefit of lumber industry, reforesting of harvested timber, etc., tanning of hides from meat packing industry and reinstating of the making of shoes, textiles, fabrics, even manufacturing of clothing.... this list of ideas could go on forever
Oh yes.... and the "honest" are getting difficult to find. Church/religion is not the only factor in one developing "honesty", but historically it has been very important. Today's erosion of family traditions and closeness, abandonment of church attendance ( accelerated by Covid restrictions ), and general acceptance of the set of principles called "situational ethics", the search for honest people has become more like the proverbial search for "hens teeth".
Great point. It’s near enough for most here to recall the establishment of the security state under the Bushes and Clintons. It became really obvious with Obama’s “transformation”. Now, the unethical horrors proceed, full speed ahead, by the actions of a moronic and corrupt puppet. The right needs to stay awake!
You've glimpsed only part of the underlying reality, in my thinking. Right/Left or partisan political parties is mostly a distraction. The REAL issue is more government control vs. less government control. We may argue details (who really holds the power?) but fact is the real power doesn't change with elections.
And most of all, both the "left" and the "right" are MOST vulnerable to what in my opinion are the number 1 and number 2 factors (I won't argue the order): the human EGO and MONEY. Send a man or woman to Washington, or to your state capitol, and it's only a matter of time ! If you can't get THEM with obscene amounts of money, generational wealth for their family for generations, then they will finally capitulate due to threats (either mental or physical, or both) to their family and loved ones. Many will argue, but to me there is no other answer than SHORT term limits.... having control over the lives of others, the budget of a nation, the health, education, even "safety" of the very food eaten, should NEVER be entrusted to ONE group of people for 20, 30, some even 40 YEARS. The old excuse that it is not good for the country to have people out of office ONCE THE HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AND GAINED ALL THE VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, "LEARNED THE ROPES" SO TO SPEAK, is going to be the ruin of our nation ! Yet, we've "discussed" it for years, but those opposed to term limits always gain the hearts, minds, and VOTES of the "people" ! Most who have had the experience will tell you (if honest), once elected the ONLY focus from the day you take office is to REMAIN in office NO MATTER what moral or ethical, or even spiritual "accommodations" you have to make !
Actually the Hepatits B shots, not A. You can also get Hep B (and C) from sharing injections. It is endemic in parts of Asia and some northern native communities in Canada.
Pregnant ladies are checked for Hep B so we know which babies are at risk at birth, and should not be injecting infants.
As long as kids are well nourished, have lots of play time outdoors, and clean water to drink, they'll be able to fight pathogens naturally. And be better off for it.
I was stunned recently when I saw an ad fir flu shots and recommended it for (I think I’m recalling correctly) 5 and up. It used to be they only tried to rope 65 and older into it.
Like Covid these childhood illnesses pose almost no risk to kids and natural infection provides lifelong immunity. We old folks remember moms dragging us to catch whatever it was going around town so we were all home from school at the same time and life went on.
None of the vaccines on the childhood schedule have had placebo controlled trials or been tested against unvaccinated control. The risks and harms have been burried just like COVID jabs. Watch the movie VAXXED to see what happened when a few moms set out to see if they could find other parents with vaccine injured kids.. we are ruled by criminals.
It was Hep B, but yeah, that vax was first recommended only for high-risk teens and adults... then they decided to push it on newborns literally one hour old because Reasons.
Do you ever actually listen closely to the COMMERCIALS (HOW can you allow "commercials" for prescription drugs anyway ?) on TV ? NEW drugs you never heard of, every single month, and usually not for DISEASES, but for "conditions", a mind boggling array of "conditions". THEN just listen to the possible SIDE EFFECTS. They MUST disclose them by law, but they run through them at such an unintelligible volume and pace that most people miss them. They are often BIZARRE , and I think to myself, do people actually LISTEN ? Are people actually willing to ASK a doctor for a prescription for something like....indigestion, or back pain, or ______, whose side effects are much worse ?
One ad for "intestinal" problems actually states that side effects can include: nausea, abdominal pain, and internal bleeding ! ! Dah !!!! So the law was written to inform the public, and surely the drug companies fought it at the time and were really frightened, and yet, it seems to make no difference to the public at all. I've even heard some of the ads which says the drug can cause serious kidney damage, hospitalization, and even death... for a condition which is unpleasant and inconvenient, yet certainly not worth risking death for !
Absoutely, I am one of them. I will not put any additional vax in my kids now. If they are so dishonest about this data and topic why would they be honest about anything else? They tried pushing guardasil on my 11, then 12, then 13 year old son. I will see if they ask me a 4th time at his next well visit. At least the state where I reside has exemptions for attending school, etc that do not require a physician's signature. I will be utilizing those for years to come.
Everyone needs to not only tell their doctor ‘no’ when urged to get these injections, but to also say, ‘document in my file that I am to never again be asked about this’. We need to push back!
You realize of course, some of us can loose our insurance coverage by rejecting/resisting such things, along with refusing to answer personal questions such as "do you have any fire arms in your home ?" and other very important questions before you can get help for a broken arm ?
Start with the package insert from the original product, where you will see it tested on a very small # of adult women, and that the "placebo" was another questionably safe vaccine. They showed lower HPV infections but no causal connection to lower cancer rates was proven (that would have taken 40 years to prove). Then read this: https://docteur.nicoledelepine.fr/1785-2/
I never questioned vaccines before. We were one of the only families at our son’s Waldorf school who vaccinated our child with routine childhood vaccines. I became suspicious as soon as they rushed it and when they started preventing doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine off-label. No covid vaccines for our family, and no more vaccines of any kind for any of us. Our eyes are totally open now. Interestingly, all the other Waldorf families who had never vaccinated their children before could not wait to get in line--and get their kids in line for the mRNA shots.
The lack of widespread resistance to the regime´s Covid narrative from among the Waldorf and Anthroposophy people has been a major disappointment. I know some people from these circles that have been taking a very strong stand against the Covidians, but considering the pre-existing general suspicion against the mainstream medical establishment in that quarter too many caved in all too quickly. Sad!
I need to see my GP regularly to manage a chronic condition that I am quite competent to manage on my own, with occasional input from a relevant specialist. I know about 100x more about my (admittedly rare and odd) condition than my useless GP.
GP took, a year or so ago, a keen interest in my shots being up to date. This is complicated by being an immigrant, with no documentation of past vaccination (yes, I asked my parents, there is nothing). I had the whole lot, I know, as a kid, and again when I worked in hospital lab and it was an unwritten expectation to show you had the usual stuff, and more exotic things like Hepatitis B. Just something you did in that line of work.
Nevertheless, the insistence, that I take the latest three-shot tetanus/diptheria/polio/pertussis. And MMR.
Oh, hang on, why MMR? I had measles as a kid (everyone did, and, yes, I know someone who spent a year in a wheelchair with it), I had mumps as a kid (everyone did), and rubella? Well, as you can tell I am not planning to get pregnant any time soon so I don't really care. Sharp intake of breath, probably more at my clearly transphobic pregnancy comment than anything, and arrogant GP "absolves" me of the need to take MMR.
I took 1 shot of the TDPP series, to make the GP happy. I've not been back since. I order my meds privately because I cannot face going back into that mask-obsessed clinic with unthinking idiot doctor.
Yes, as just one example, I and probably many others had never thought much about SIDS. Unless it was your kid. Now you'd have to be braindead not to suspect vaccines as causing this malady.
It's happening already. Just in my family alone, family members who used to get shots for flu every year and also get the childhood "schedule" have all said no more shots of any kind, ever again. They'll have to hold me down to ever put a "vaccine" in me. I'd rather die than take my chances with any shots for anything at this point. And I sure don't see them regaining my trust in my lifetime. Nope. They went too far with this madness.
I will never get a vaccine again. It became abundantly clear that people who "like" vaccines the most really just think that "vax = good" and "antivax = bad" and that is the totality of their thinking on the subject. They are utterly incapable of thinking about risk v. reward, "known unknowns vs unknown unknowns", etc. A lot of them are also just slavish to authority. So many people who I thought were open-minded, evidence-based, distrustful of "greedy corporations" and "government over-reach", and so on, just became robotic rules-followers no matter what.
Vaxophiles just want to jab everyone, period, that is their only goal in life. It very well may be that older time-tested vaccines "work" and "save lives" but I simply do not trust anyone in the vax/pharma/medical complex anymore.
Deploying leaky vaccines is a no-no... always has been. It causes mutations - and you run a huge risk of creating a Marek's type illness
Yet they continue to deploy billions of doses into a storm of disease.
They know it's not stopping the spread - and it increases the chances of severe illness and death
Yet they continue.
They are very obviously attempting to exterminate us. I don't they are concerned about creating anti vaxxers down the road... there ain't no down the road
Oh hell no THEY're not suicidal! They probably live inside faraday cages. (Easy to afford when you're a billionaire.) Like Catherine Austin Fitts keeps telling us, They figure They only need about 20% of us for doing Their dirty work for Them (and the rest of us need to go).
If you read history (I read a lot of it... never stop) you will note that there are many many many examples of the leaders of countries being treated very badly when they were toppled by the mob. Murder rape torture etc...
See Russian and French Revolutions as the most obvious examples.
When civilization collapses the old men who run the show can expect no help from the Praetorian Guardsmen... they'll be abandoned to the mob
And the mob will be enraged because there is no food - no electricity - no water... and they'll go looking to rip the faces off of those who they believe are to blame
There is nowhere to hide for these men -- therefore they go down with everyone else
Maybe. Of course the mob still needs to find them. And how far, fast, and accurately does a modern mob move, without food, electricity, water, gas, or working smartphones? Whatever mob forms today, without pre-industrial infrastructure to support them, seems likely to die in place in a fairly short time.
If they are trying to exterminate us through airborne viral disease though, that should be expected to backfire on them.
The mob moved quickly when Sri Lanka in pieces - they beat an MP to death and stormed the presidential palace -- they burned the PM's house to the ground and he had to flee in a military chopper. Fortunately the country was not collapsed yet.
I think it is already the case. Another aspect is a lot of children missed vaccination for childhood diseases so if as I suspect, it turns out we don’t have fatal outbreaks of these diseases, and those who get them are little troubled, it may make people wonder whether there is any need to vaccinate their children, given there is a small but nevertheless present risk of serious and/or fatal injury from these vaccines.
My uncle had polio and has a withered leg. When I was a child, I lived down the street from what must have been one of the last kids to go deaf from measles. These are not harmless diseases. It would be awful to stop vaccinating kids for diseases that will, if unchecked, harm large numbers of them all because we've let public health people run wild and convince us to do stupid things. "Burn it all down" is not a solution if only half or two-thirds are bad.
read 'Turtles All the Way Down' if you have not already explored the massive gap in verifiable evidence to support the claims of vaccine benefit or supposed lack of harm. Chapter One is offered free in pdf, and after three or four years since first published NO ONE has been able to debunk one item in the book. Not news to those who do their homework thoroughly, but there t is in one book for all to read, see and comprehend. Much of Germ theory is also crumbling and that underpins the whole rational of injecting these substances into healthy people.
I take Moderna PAYING people (and their environment due to shedding) large sums as consistent with their value. The only value the MRNA shots have is they are a good tell, whether people have critical thinking skills
Agreed. Though my caveat was that it needed to perform as advertised. And there never was any evidence of that. I wasn't interested in the jab because the risk due to infection didn't warrant it. The govt used people dying in nursing homes to scare the bejesus out of the rest of us--people months away from death. Insane.
I said, very early on, that if the jab worked as announced, you'd gladly pay for it--surely the $39 price in the US contract would've been worth it. Or even a multiple of that amount.
Unfortunately, instead of preventing infection/preventing transmission as promised, we now get the vastly curtailed assurance that the jab prevents serious illness (however defined).
And in this case as free--you get the value you pay for.
To a progressive anything they are not paying directly out of pocket for is "free", just like an electric vehicle that used up vast amounts of fossil fuels in its creations, is "pollution free" because there is nothing coming out of a tailpipe.
Did anyone notice that Biden looks more happy and healthy ,since Selenski was in Washington to pic up his monthly allowance of 50 billion .Did Selenski give Biden a blow job for it ?
'Stephane Bancel of Moderna argues that the new price, of over $100 per dose (yielding an estimated margin of 10,000%) “is consistent with the value.”'
According to Luigi Warren, he's a "monster of avarice" so this looks like par for the course.
"The presence of Sars-CoV-2 virus, virus-induced tissue damage, or virus-induced inflammatory response was not detected in any of the heart tissues. Particularly, lymphocyte infiltration, as a hallmark of myocarditis, was not seen in any cases of this study. Thus, any sign of histological myocarditis was not proved in our Covid-19 victims’ cohort of the study.'
I have been on the lookout for a good study or two to link when confronted with the "wellllll, there might be a slight chance of heart damage in very, very rare cases due to the vaccine, but it's nothing compared to the high risk of it from covid" argument. Thanks.
Christina Berndt, who is, to use your terminology, some kind of evil genetic experiment crossing a clipboard-wielding head girl with a disapproving maiden aunt (and a good bit of evil fairytale stepmother thrown in), has also today come out against continued mask mandates.
Do they co-ordinate on this crap, or are they independently running scared?
I check our biggest local regional hospital's covid treatment website regularly (which they have not updated since June of 2022). The only approved treatments they are offering are Paxlovid, Molnupiravir, and Run death is near aka Remdesivir. I stopped calling All the local Pharm D's a year and a half ago when I realized they had all been forced to drink the Purple Koolaid. Albeit, some were a bit helpful at the time by sharing tidbits of info with me reluctantly, like the fact that the PDR genetic injection insert phamphlets were completely blank. I'm in the US. Quick ask, could you AI generate the injections and the above meds and the helpful meds. I'm very curious as to what images would be generated. Thanks in advance if you do so. PS At the time, I also called All the local blood banks and elementary school nurses too, including the elemenatary school superintendant and a few university professors. The Sociology prof called the popo on me. The school nurses were instructed to not talk to me and referred me "only to the charge nurse." The popo were cool and said they'd be happy to take a look at Dr David Martin's documents from prosecutenow.io . I also called the state covid dept and shared the WHO's "IMPLIED Consent" document that stated if you sent your child to school that day. They were not aware of it and said they would look into it. The elementary school superintendant took down a bunch of legitiment websites from alt media that I shared with him. He also informed me of "PODS" aka points of distribution/dispersement sites to inject that trumped state laws if schools received covid monies.
Anyone can get Pax, and most of them do. My 3x jabbed brother-in-law, 47 and very fit, ran for Pax as soon as he tested positive (coincidentally, right after the “bivalent booster”). Thankfully he was and is fine, but I couldn’t understand why he had wanted or was able to receive it. My husband and I came through it in April unjabbed and a-ok. When brother-in-law learned we weren’t planning to vax, he called us “the dumbest smart people I know.” I truly hope he won’t regret that in the future.
Hypervaccinated dementors of mine (in Germany) went and insisted they got paxlovid prescribed, within minutes of testing positive (which was itself minutes after getting their fourth shot, and berating me for doubting the efficacy...).
One of the benefits of private insurance, I am sure, seeing as paxlovid is indicated only in unvaccinated people. At least, it was only trialled in unvaccinated. These days study populations no longer seem to matter to the regulatory agencies.
The people I am thinking of are former mentors, people to whom I owe a great deal of gratitude for pointing me in the right direction early in my (current) career.
A mentor who decides to cancel you to your wider professional community because of a disagreement on anything, becomes a de-mentor.
I have no problem with people taking as many shots of this stuff as they want. I have a problem with them expecting me to. But tribal thinkers are simply not able to accept differing views on anything, to agree to disagree, or to come to a debate with anything except the expectation of destroying your enemy. I like coming to debates to learn. Sometimes I change my mind, sometimes I don't. What is the point otherwise?
Agree. I live in NY. Many people I know directly or indirectly were immediately given Paxlovid as soon as they tested positive for Covid. Age and medical history didn’t matter.
They are supposed to require a recent test of kidney (liver?) function. How this is done with a pharmacist being allowed to dispense it without prescription, I don't know. But that's the rule in the USA. I refused it simply because it's an experimental drug, but the product warnings about the need for kidney function and different regimen for the impaired should be a red flag too.
Crucial point. In June 2022 I finally caught Covid and was prescribed that poison by my primary over the phone. Since I read sites like this, I refused. My case was mild, as are 99.8%. In my opinion, I was not at high risk of hospitalization. The only risk factor I had was age (60). Later I read a study of its efficacy (not very much, my opinion of course.) For the rest of the year, I researched routine drugs I took: the very common baby aspirin, statins, and blood pressure medications. Guess what? They are all but worthless for primary prevention*. Needless to say, my trust in the medical system has hit new lows.
*Read my Substack if you are curious about these topics.
Masks on trains are indeed ridiculous but here in Maryland (maybe other US states too), going to the dentist is one of the remaining mask mandated experiences still in place. You walk in to the waiting room wearing a mask and until you get called back.
Then for a teeth cleaning you take off the mask, a masked hygienist, sits with their face in your face as they blow out your saliva into the room via the water blasters. You can literally see it atomizing into the air.
But thank God the authorities make have kept those mask mandates in place because otherwise you'd be killing grandmas. 😒
I'm reminded of the Flintstones episode where Fred, an otherwise responsible father heading a modern stone age family, turns out to have a gambling addiction. "Bet bet bet!" (Forgive me, for I am a boomer. You can find the clip on YouTube.) But the analogy holds: The majority of people, of average or better intelligence, have a weak spot, a trust of authority or whatever, and are willing to unquestioningly take experimental elixirs unquestioningly.
Slightly off topic from this post, but it appears to me that, when the dust settles eventually, the entire covid vaccination saga will have made people suspicious of _all_ vaccines on an unheard-of scale. What do you think?
oh yes, I think this is clearly right
All but the most die hard covidians can see the utter lack of official interest in SADS and the like without knowing something isn't right.
We went from trying to save every life to not giving a **** when a healthy child "dies suddenly"
And in Canada we top it all by MAID'ing citizens for all sorts of reasons, inc depression and lack of access to medical care.
Medical Assistance In Dying aka suicide.
Canadian here too: think of it, a doctor or others can now offer to kill you! A person can commit suicide all by themself. They're asking your permission to kill you! There have been reports of veterans being offered MAID by veterans organizations. I remember hearing in other parts of the world where veterans who had hard lives because of injuries incurred during battle being given a revolver by authorities with the suggestion being obvious. Same thing,
It’s disturbing.
Oh I am sure our "medicare" won't be far behind. I would like to know if these things are happening in Canada (and coming our way certainly) because the people feel they have no choice ? Or, do the majority of Canadians actually support these "progressive thinking trends" and vote FOR them ? Like the United States, the people, the culture, the history would seem so very very opposed to such thinking and government ! I would have guessed Canadians to have a similar view of personal liberty as U.S. citizens... but for both our countries that seems to not be the prevailing sentiment ! ! ? ?
I am expecting they will go further with this and make Super Fentanyl available to anyone who wants it --- things are gonna get really grim when the Bossche Mutation arrives... and they'll want this in people's medicine chest so that they have an way to opt out of the horror show
Covid boosters are MAID, just not officially recognized yet.
I wonder if the people in favor of the government being involved in MAIDing people are paradoxically opposed to capital punishment, which is also the state killing people.
Celayne: Of course, capital punishment does not compare to assisted suicide or coerced suicide. But the people you refer to are not concerned with analyzing their "convictions," they simply go along with the liberal mob in compiling the list of what is "acceptable" for them to "believe in."
Hmm, seems to me the communist sibling of the left’s exalted Planned Parenthood, true faux’s (intentional) planned eternal repose (compost?).
When society does not value the lives of the innocent or our elders are we as doomed as Sodom and Gomorrah?
(Sodomy and gonorrhea, calling cards of Biden, Trudeau and their leftist lemmings.
I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head with your Biblical reference.
Yes, exactly, and so many factors involved in the "turning of the tide"; continuing gradual changes in "free public education" by dropping "difficult, useless, and boring subjects" such as history, economics, civics, government (including study of U.S. Constitution/Bill of Right/amendments. Gradual crack down on Christianity and other spiritual practices, ever increasing reliance on government for financial and social needs, gradual intrusiveness into medical history, privacy (questions like do you have guns in the house, do you have a pet, if so, what kind of pet, etc.) and it's like a police investigation; meaning unless you take each of these changes, post them on separate pieces of paper, and attack them to a wall in a contiguous configuration....otherwise, people barely recognize what is actually happening ! Gradual deterioration of all the factors that hold societies together, go check out history. Russian "revolution", close down churches, "adjust" schools/education, Roman distraction, interest, fascination with spectacles if barbaric human torture and killing, Germany, one one example of "divide and separate" to make a specific group your scapegoat (al la Saul Alinsky's book ) as a tool for obtaining your own end goals, and many, many more historic examples. For more, read the history of how drug addiction destroyed the ancient culture of China, an advanced culture that once venerated their elderly, made many significant scientific discoveries and inventions, valued family and life, etc. We seem to never learn from the history of the world, to value it, to teach it, and most of all to see the WHOLE picture of the direction we are headed. Puzzling ? ?
Only children and those who attempt to remain as children can realistically be called innocent. No one else.
The be adult as in a fully independent living man or living woman is to take full responsibility and accountability for who and what we are and all that we do - no if buts or maybe permitted. That's life
The very fact of being present, of seeing, hearing, feeling, is to be a part of all that is - only a child who is yet to come to full awareness of presence may be excused this simply reality.
Picky point re: adults being fully independent: they're only independent to the extent that they can AFFORD to do whatever they want.
Yes, picky point. However, I know that “adults” are only fully independent when they make the choice to be and commit 100%to that. Victims only choose to be victims by giving all their power to the “bullies”.
You know, victimhood is so in vogue. Kinda like Shillinsky.
In USA our only access to any important stories the might be "troubling" to the "official government stance", is through ONE network only. Most individuals who "lean" toward a more liberal view, usually miss many important stories as the network is viewed as "conservative" and therefore not worth considering ANY of the news reports. However, they carried a story of a Canadian man's trials and tribulations in trying to find a doctor who would even attempt to treat the devastating effects of his Covid vaccination(s). Like here, side effects, even very serious ones, are considered "coincidence". It you happen to have worn a blue shirt to your injection appointment, the skin rash, numbness, or partial paralysis that resulted (and got worse following the second and third shots, is usually explained as a result of wearing a BLUE shirt, NOT anything to do with the "prevention vaccinations" ! !
Eugyppius, being pretty level headed and rigorous, you should start a sideline in (re)evaluating the claims of the pre-covid anti-vax movement now that we know that _some_ vaccine/pandemic pushers are a lying cabal. Not least because many wonder just how useful an ally the likes of RFK Jr. and that whole American scene may or may not be.
I am already not trusting vaccines when I have to sign papers to not sue if my child dies or gets sick in some way from vaccines
Rightly so. Vaccination as a means to simulate an attenuated natural infection is sound in principle and may well be less risky overall (but not necessarily for everyone) than a natural infection for certain infectious agents. However, given the shenanigans pulled for covid-19, it is absolutely fair to question the (potentially dubious) standards of evidence for safety, individual risk/benefit, and effectiveness for ALL previous vaccines given the sheer complexity of human immune systems and the consequences for long-term health implications of such interventions.
I see a further aspect to this: Consider a bona fide expert or industry leader in the field of "traditional" vaccines, of the kind that are said to provide real immunity to the respective disease (e.g. measles, polio), an expert who is genuinely convinced that "his" traditional vaccines are safe and effective. Shouldn´t such a person be the guy who has the most interest in preventing ineffective and dangerous medication to be sold unter the label "vaccine" and consequently be the loudest voice against our current crop of covid vaccines? The fact that the "classical vaccinators" did not raise their voices (for the most part) makes me suspicious of how confident they really are about the quality of their own products.
Well said. You are absolutely right.
Excellent point, KlarkashTon.
Boom!
...except that "infection" doesn't work that way. The ONLY things that can make anyone sick are malnutrition, parasites, and/or toxins (and EMFs ARE TOXINS). A bunch of ppl coming down w/ the same symptoms in the same place at the same time just means they're all suffering from those same stressors.
It will be a while before the majority understand the concept of terrain theory. My good friend used to say, 'only sick people get diseases.'
"VIRUSES DO NOT EXIST" was a Psyop - and a Nice Try!
Set your coffee aside right now! You will be laughing
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/viruses-do-not-exist-was-a-psyop
A psyop, eh? Who benefits from THAT one? Kindly prove that pathogenic viruses DO exist. I'll wait. https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/68-health-science-institutions-globally-all-failed-to-cite-even-1-record-of-sars-cov-2-purification-by-anyone-anywhere-ever/
Not so fast Freddie. Some more homework might be needed as Germ theory does not hold up so wanting something to be true is not the same of it actually being true. Vaccination theory rest on the supposed bedrock of Germ theory which is crumbling. Illness my involve the processes well identified but that does not explain WHY those indicators are appearing. Science still cannot tell us what gravity is or magnetism is beyond that they are forces 'from somewhere or something' and these are the signs they exist. What makes these forces exist - silence.
That's the thing about a well laid psyop trap -- once you catch the prey -- even if one shows the victims that it was a psyop ... they will continue to remain trapped...
Was it Twain who said something about how difficult it is to unfool someone?
It may explain why some people have multiple ailments while others have few to none.
Exactly.
Good observation.
Stress being the biggest culprit, both mental and physical.
Ewww!
Doesn’t that rather depend on the severity of the infection? Vaccination often reproduce a mild case of the disease anyway, so why not just get the disease if it is mild? CoVid being a prime example. It was mild or virtually undetected in 99%+ and only fatal in elderly sick people who were going to die anyway. More young, fit healthy people are dying now from the so-called vaccines than died from CoVid. Of course it is the case that childhood diseases are promoted as being devastating to boost sales of vaccines, whereas they are mostly are not with a few exceptions. The primary reasons why epidemics and severity of these diseases declined (and before vaccination programmes) in Western Countries are better personal hygiene, better sanitation, better nutrition and in the case of TB, antibiotics. Polio is a virus of the gut spread mostly by contact with infected fæces, so good hygiene and sanitation will greatly reduce spread - and in any case it is only serious in 1 to 2 cases per 5 000.
Not to mention it sounds like these evil "vaccine" manufacturers plan to convert pretty much all "vaccines" to mRNA tech. Terrifying.
I agree and amplify. Even many routine drugs are ineffective and the authorities (should) know it. This is one of the open secrets of medicine. It's not a new problem by any means, but it was "new to me" when I started looking at it last year. For those curious, my Substack has several articles to the point.
That's happening already - fewer children are vaccinated than pre-measures. It remains to be seen if the nunbers bouncebsck but I suspect they will remain lower. If you were slightly on the fence re: vaccines, most likely the last three years have killed your confidence entirely.
And as Florida proved, SIDS dropped to almost 0.
US has no mandatory quakcination schedule?
California requires school children be vaccinated for measles. The state believes that if one child is unvaccinated, all are at risk. That situation was disproved some time ago, but the requirement stands.
Nationally no. It's more local school district item. The CDC just has the recommended list, but not a requirement.
But in effect, all school districts slavishly follow the "guidelines" from the CDC, no matter how obviously corrupted by the massive amounts of money to be made for Pfizer etc.
One of Germany's inexhaustible supply of inept "Minister" made measles vaccination mandatory - for teachers and for students and kindergarten teachers and students. No other mandatory vaccines as far as I know of.
Yes--right AFTER Stefan Lanka proved that measles virus didn't exist.
The CDC has its "requirements," but it's up to the states to do what they want to do about it, whether to allow personal exemptions, etc.
I think it has already happened to many people. I got my children all the required vaxes, including chicken pox, until Gardasil came out-- then I had to fight my pediatrician about that. I didn't want to do chicken pox either, but my older child got a "probable" very mild case and I had to quarantine for two weeks. That was awful, and I eventually got her the shot because almost every other kid had one and it was unlikely she or my son would contract it. As I didnt' know whether or not she'd actually had it, I didn't know that she'd be immune as an adult. Giving everyone that shot when no one had any idea how long the immunity would last seemed crazy to me, but as far as I knew the risks were low. Not so with Gardasil, which I thought was far too hurried, and was being pushes as a public health measure in lieu of trying to get people to stop being promiscuous. About this time I started noticing that flu shots, which used to be recommended only for the elderly and those at risk, were being urged on everyone. Doing some research into public health for my work at the time, I developed a healthy and well-warranted skepticism for the people in it and the work they did.
So I was quite ready to distrust the Covid response--but the shot mandates still shocked me. I could not believe they were being pushed so hard for what was obviously no real medical reason. Recently I read that hepititus A shots for kids were adopted because this is a disease promiscuous gay men get. I don't know if that's true but at this point nothign would surprise me. If people stop getting the essential shots and children once again start being harmed by returning childhood diseases, we have our public health people's huge overreach to blame.
This whole mess has opened my eyes to the evil in the world, and the likelihood that liberals perpetuate that evil, either by being evil, or by backing evil people.
Covid 19, the attempts to cover up everything about it, the censoring of all information not following the narrative, and all the outright lies coming from the very people we should be able to trust has set the medical profession back 100 years.
This is NOT a "both sides are equally bad" cringepost, because it's clear that right now the systemic threat is so much greater from the left. But that said, the last time the right had real influence and a seat at the official table of power in the US, they gave us the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars and the Patriot Act, setting up the national security state and spying apparatus now being used against its own citizens who stand up against the Uniparty/WEF agenda.
This was not a case where the leaders did X in spite of their constituents. The vast majority of the right wing voters went right along with the "if you're not with us, then you're with the terrorists!" rhetoric.
My point here is that the right can easily be duped, using their values, and cultural and emotional triggers, into supporting things that are vastly evil as well. I think the left can't win if we are to have any hope, but that we need to be very careful that the right doesn't get duped, either. The right winning this power struggle is necessary but not sufficient.
This is a very good point, and I wonder if tyranny isn't periodically flipped from one "cheirality" to the other on purpose. Individual people need to develop red-line principles to protect themselves from this. I spent the early part of my life on the "right," but flipped to "left" when the Bush administration launched their unprovoked assault on Iraq. I switched back recently in 2020 with the explosion of extreme wokeism and vax-covidianism on the "left." I didn't necessarily change my own fundamental opinions very much on either occasion.
To their credit, I'm seeing that a lot of Trump supporters seem to have no sympathy for the neocons and their wars.
All good points. Additionally, I believe there is also a significant number of individuals in government and just the general population, that regardless of what party they claim, they hold the deep belief that war does fuel our economy and provide employment ... perhaps they have never stopped to analyze what other factors could serve to fuel the economy ? Steel, oil, even "simple" manufacturing of such goods as furniture (with added benefit of lumber industry, reforesting of harvested timber, etc., tanning of hides from meat packing industry and reinstating of the making of shoes, textiles, fabrics, even manufacturing of clothing.... this list of ideas could go on forever
Deep state on both sides of the aisle. The power struggle needs to be won by the honest.
Oh yes.... and the "honest" are getting difficult to find. Church/religion is not the only factor in one developing "honesty", but historically it has been very important. Today's erosion of family traditions and closeness, abandonment of church attendance ( accelerated by Covid restrictions ), and general acceptance of the set of principles called "situational ethics", the search for honest people has become more like the proverbial search for "hens teeth".
Agreed. Right now, the narrative seems to be supported more by the left but more and more I see uni-party and not just in the US.
Great point. It’s near enough for most here to recall the establishment of the security state under the Bushes and Clintons. It became really obvious with Obama’s “transformation”. Now, the unethical horrors proceed, full speed ahead, by the actions of a moronic and corrupt puppet. The right needs to stay awake!
Left and Right seems to be on a lemmings march over the cliff... just another Venezuela eventually ?
You've glimpsed only part of the underlying reality, in my thinking. Right/Left or partisan political parties is mostly a distraction. The REAL issue is more government control vs. less government control. We may argue details (who really holds the power?) but fact is the real power doesn't change with elections.
And most of all, both the "left" and the "right" are MOST vulnerable to what in my opinion are the number 1 and number 2 factors (I won't argue the order): the human EGO and MONEY. Send a man or woman to Washington, or to your state capitol, and it's only a matter of time ! If you can't get THEM with obscene amounts of money, generational wealth for their family for generations, then they will finally capitulate due to threats (either mental or physical, or both) to their family and loved ones. Many will argue, but to me there is no other answer than SHORT term limits.... having control over the lives of others, the budget of a nation, the health, education, even "safety" of the very food eaten, should NEVER be entrusted to ONE group of people for 20, 30, some even 40 YEARS. The old excuse that it is not good for the country to have people out of office ONCE THE HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AND GAINED ALL THE VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, "LEARNED THE ROPES" SO TO SPEAK, is going to be the ruin of our nation ! Yet, we've "discussed" it for years, but those opposed to term limits always gain the hearts, minds, and VOTES of the "people" ! Most who have had the experience will tell you (if honest), once elected the ONLY focus from the day you take office is to REMAIN in office NO MATTER what moral or ethical, or even spiritual "accommodations" you have to make !
Covid is exposing what has long been the norm. Maybe, in that sense, covid will end up being a good thing.
Actually the Hepatits B shots, not A. You can also get Hep B (and C) from sharing injections. It is endemic in parts of Asia and some northern native communities in Canada.
Pregnant ladies are checked for Hep B so we know which babies are at risk at birth, and should not be injecting infants.
As long as kids are well nourished, have lots of play time outdoors, and clean water to drink, they'll be able to fight pathogens naturally. And be better off for it.
I was stunned recently when I saw an ad fir flu shots and recommended it for (I think I’m recalling correctly) 5 and up. It used to be they only tried to rope 65 and older into it.
I was stunned in mid-Novemner, viditing family in England, to hear 5 and 8 yr old grandchildren refer to flu spray recently pushed up their noses.
Oh dear!
I guess 'visiting' with an 's' works better.
Like Covid these childhood illnesses pose almost no risk to kids and natural infection provides lifelong immunity. We old folks remember moms dragging us to catch whatever it was going around town so we were all home from school at the same time and life went on.
None of the vaccines on the childhood schedule have had placebo controlled trials or been tested against unvaccinated control. The risks and harms have been burried just like COVID jabs. Watch the movie VAXXED to see what happened when a few moms set out to see if they could find other parents with vaccine injured kids.. we are ruled by criminals.
It was Hep B, but yeah, that vax was first recommended only for high-risk teens and adults... then they decided to push it on newborns literally one hour old because Reasons.
Been a no vaxxer since 1985. My thirty something kids are healthy and never had a vaccine.
Do you ever actually listen closely to the COMMERCIALS (HOW can you allow "commercials" for prescription drugs anyway ?) on TV ? NEW drugs you never heard of, every single month, and usually not for DISEASES, but for "conditions", a mind boggling array of "conditions". THEN just listen to the possible SIDE EFFECTS. They MUST disclose them by law, but they run through them at such an unintelligible volume and pace that most people miss them. They are often BIZARRE , and I think to myself, do people actually LISTEN ? Are people actually willing to ASK a doctor for a prescription for something like....indigestion, or back pain, or ______, whose side effects are much worse ?
One ad for "intestinal" problems actually states that side effects can include: nausea, abdominal pain, and internal bleeding ! ! Dah !!!! So the law was written to inform the public, and surely the drug companies fought it at the time and were really frightened, and yet, it seems to make no difference to the public at all. I've even heard some of the ads which says the drug can cause serious kidney damage, hospitalization, and even death... for a condition which is unpleasant and inconvenient, yet certainly not worth risking death for !
Absoutely, I am one of them. I will not put any additional vax in my kids now. If they are so dishonest about this data and topic why would they be honest about anything else? They tried pushing guardasil on my 11, then 12, then 13 year old son. I will see if they ask me a 4th time at his next well visit. At least the state where I reside has exemptions for attending school, etc that do not require a physician's signature. I will be utilizing those for years to come.
Everyone needs to not only tell their doctor ‘no’ when urged to get these injections, but to also say, ‘document in my file that I am to never again be asked about this’. We need to push back!
You realize of course, some of us can loose our insurance coverage by rejecting/resisting such things, along with refusing to answer personal questions such as "do you have any fire arms in your home ?" and other very important questions before you can get help for a broken arm ?
I'd like to learn more about guardasil. Can you point me to any references?
Start with the package insert from the original product, where you will see it tested on a very small # of adult women, and that the "placebo" was another questionably safe vaccine. They showed lower HPV infections but no causal connection to lower cancer rates was proven (that would have taken 40 years to prove). Then read this: https://docteur.nicoledelepine.fr/1785-2/
Thanks!
I never questioned vaccines before. We were one of the only families at our son’s Waldorf school who vaccinated our child with routine childhood vaccines. I became suspicious as soon as they rushed it and when they started preventing doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine off-label. No covid vaccines for our family, and no more vaccines of any kind for any of us. Our eyes are totally open now. Interestingly, all the other Waldorf families who had never vaccinated their children before could not wait to get in line--and get their kids in line for the mRNA shots.
The lack of widespread resistance to the regime´s Covid narrative from among the Waldorf and Anthroposophy people has been a major disappointment. I know some people from these circles that have been taking a very strong stand against the Covidians, but considering the pre-existing general suspicion against the mainstream medical establishment in that quarter too many caved in all too quickly. Sad!
I need to see my GP regularly to manage a chronic condition that I am quite competent to manage on my own, with occasional input from a relevant specialist. I know about 100x more about my (admittedly rare and odd) condition than my useless GP.
GP took, a year or so ago, a keen interest in my shots being up to date. This is complicated by being an immigrant, with no documentation of past vaccination (yes, I asked my parents, there is nothing). I had the whole lot, I know, as a kid, and again when I worked in hospital lab and it was an unwritten expectation to show you had the usual stuff, and more exotic things like Hepatitis B. Just something you did in that line of work.
Nevertheless, the insistence, that I take the latest three-shot tetanus/diptheria/polio/pertussis. And MMR.
Oh, hang on, why MMR? I had measles as a kid (everyone did, and, yes, I know someone who spent a year in a wheelchair with it), I had mumps as a kid (everyone did), and rubella? Well, as you can tell I am not planning to get pregnant any time soon so I don't really care. Sharp intake of breath, probably more at my clearly transphobic pregnancy comment than anything, and arrogant GP "absolves" me of the need to take MMR.
I took 1 shot of the TDPP series, to make the GP happy. I've not been back since. I order my meds privately because I cannot face going back into that mask-obsessed clinic with unthinking idiot doctor.
Yep...the clinic and doctor you describe is like “a lot of this going around”.
All of health care--and all mainstream media--in my opinion.
Yes, as just one example, I and probably many others had never thought much about SIDS. Unless it was your kid. Now you'd have to be braindead not to suspect vaccines as causing this malady.
It's happening already. Just in my family alone, family members who used to get shots for flu every year and also get the childhood "schedule" have all said no more shots of any kind, ever again. They'll have to hold me down to ever put a "vaccine" in me. I'd rather die than take my chances with any shots for anything at this point. And I sure don't see them regaining my trust in my lifetime. Nope. They went too far with this madness.
I will never get a vaccine again. It became abundantly clear that people who "like" vaccines the most really just think that "vax = good" and "antivax = bad" and that is the totality of their thinking on the subject. They are utterly incapable of thinking about risk v. reward, "known unknowns vs unknown unknowns", etc. A lot of them are also just slavish to authority. So many people who I thought were open-minded, evidence-based, distrustful of "greedy corporations" and "government over-reach", and so on, just became robotic rules-followers no matter what.
Vaxophiles just want to jab everyone, period, that is their only goal in life. It very well may be that older time-tested vaccines "work" and "save lives" but I simply do not trust anyone in the vax/pharma/medical complex anymore.
Probably quite rightly so.
Deploying leaky vaccines is a no-no... always has been. It causes mutations - and you run a huge risk of creating a Marek's type illness
Yet they continue to deploy billions of doses into a storm of disease.
They know it's not stopping the spread - and it increases the chances of severe illness and death
Yet they continue.
They are very obviously attempting to exterminate us. I don't they are concerned about creating anti vaxxers down the road... there ain't no down the road
What about down the road for them? Or are they committing suicide along with the rest of us?
Oh hell no THEY're not suicidal! They probably live inside faraday cages. (Easy to afford when you're a billionaire.) Like Catherine Austin Fitts keeps telling us, They figure They only need about 20% of us for doing Their dirty work for Them (and the rest of us need to go).
They are.
If you read history (I read a lot of it... never stop) you will note that there are many many many examples of the leaders of countries being treated very badly when they were toppled by the mob. Murder rape torture etc...
See Russian and French Revolutions as the most obvious examples.
When civilization collapses the old men who run the show can expect no help from the Praetorian Guardsmen... they'll be abandoned to the mob
And the mob will be enraged because there is no food - no electricity - no water... and they'll go looking to rip the faces off of those who they believe are to blame
There is nowhere to hide for these men -- therefore they go down with everyone else
Maybe. Of course the mob still needs to find them. And how far, fast, and accurately does a modern mob move, without food, electricity, water, gas, or working smartphones? Whatever mob forms today, without pre-industrial infrastructure to support them, seems likely to die in place in a fairly short time.
If they are trying to exterminate us through airborne viral disease though, that should be expected to backfire on them.
The mob moved quickly when Sri Lanka in pieces - they beat an MP to death and stormed the presidential palace -- they burned the PM's house to the ground and he had to flee in a military chopper. Fortunately the country was not collapsed yet.
I think it is already the case. Another aspect is a lot of children missed vaccination for childhood diseases so if as I suspect, it turns out we don’t have fatal outbreaks of these diseases, and those who get them are little troubled, it may make people wonder whether there is any need to vaccinate their children, given there is a small but nevertheless present risk of serious and/or fatal injury from these vaccines.
My uncle had polio and has a withered leg. When I was a child, I lived down the street from what must have been one of the last kids to go deaf from measles. These are not harmless diseases. It would be awful to stop vaccinating kids for diseases that will, if unchecked, harm large numbers of them all because we've let public health people run wild and convince us to do stupid things. "Burn it all down" is not a solution if only half or two-thirds are bad.
read 'Turtles All the Way Down' if you have not already explored the massive gap in verifiable evidence to support the claims of vaccine benefit or supposed lack of harm. Chapter One is offered free in pdf, and after three or four years since first published NO ONE has been able to debunk one item in the book. Not news to those who do their homework thoroughly, but there t is in one book for all to read, see and comprehend. Much of Germ theory is also crumbling and that underpins the whole rational of injecting these substances into healthy people.
I’ll take the under on $0 as consistent with the true value.
I take Moderna PAYING people (and their environment due to shedding) large sums as consistent with their value. The only value the MRNA shots have is they are a good tell, whether people have critical thinking skills
we should make bets. How many takers for the newly announced Moderna mRNA heart medicine that prompts you to grow new blood vessels? LOL.
At this stage, it is kind of like a version of the Darwin Awards.
That's awfully generous. The bastards couldn't pay me to take that vile shit.
Agreed. Though my caveat was that it needed to perform as advertised. And there never was any evidence of that. I wasn't interested in the jab because the risk due to infection didn't warrant it. The govt used people dying in nursing homes to scare the bejesus out of the rest of us--people months away from death. Insane.
I said, very early on, that if the jab worked as announced, you'd gladly pay for it--surely the $39 price in the US contract would've been worth it. Or even a multiple of that amount.
Unfortunately, instead of preventing infection/preventing transmission as promised, we now get the vastly curtailed assurance that the jab prevents serious illness (however defined).
And in this case as free--you get the value you pay for.
It's not free, you pay for it later.
Better to rename it "Pavlovid" to reference the fools among us salivating over each new poison concocted by Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.
That’s how I misread It at first, with the same connotations. Hear the bell, roll up your sleeve!
Lol, but isn't it already called Pfizermectin ?
"Stephane Bancel of Moderna argues that the new price, of over $100 per dose (yielding an estimated margin of 10,000%) “is consistent with the value.”
At least through his multiple infections of Covid he never lost his sense of humor.
There is so much I wouldn't know without you, thank you. I didn't know that the smallpox vax caused mycarditis.
As far as mask mandates or any mandate for that matter, making sense, all sense ended early 2020.
What happened to donuts and french fry offers to go along with the shots now they want $100/ea?
We were told they were free but we all paid for them and it is alleged that Gottlieb may have conspired with Twitter.
To a progressive anything they are not paying directly out of pocket for is "free", just like an electric vehicle that used up vast amounts of fossil fuels in its creations, is "pollution free" because there is nothing coming out of a tailpipe.
These are the people running our world, enjoy.
Did anyone notice that Biden looks more happy and healthy ,since Selenski was in Washington to pic up his monthly allowance of 50 billion .Did Selenski give Biden a blow job for it ?
Jewy Joe was thrilled to "whistle" some tunes on Zelenskiy's "piano player".
And vice versa.
'Stephane Bancel of Moderna argues that the new price, of over $100 per dose (yielding an estimated margin of 10,000%) “is consistent with the value.”'
According to Luigi Warren, he's a "monster of avarice" so this looks like par for the course.
Value...LOL! To the undertakers!
"The presence of Sars-CoV-2 virus, virus-induced tissue damage, or virus-induced inflammatory response was not detected in any of the heart tissues. Particularly, lymphocyte infiltration, as a hallmark of myocarditis, was not seen in any cases of this study. Thus, any sign of histological myocarditis was not proved in our Covid-19 victims’ cohort of the study.'
I have been on the lookout for a good study or two to link when confronted with the "wellllll, there might be a slight chance of heart damage in very, very rare cases due to the vaccine, but it's nothing compared to the high risk of it from covid" argument. Thanks.
Christina Berndt, who is, to use your terminology, some kind of evil genetic experiment crossing a clipboard-wielding head girl with a disapproving maiden aunt (and a good bit of evil fairytale stepmother thrown in), has also today come out against continued mask mandates.
Do they co-ordinate on this crap, or are they independently running scared?
I saw that, it's very remarkable. There must be some kind of coordination.
It wasn't enough that the govt was killing us for 'free?'
Now they want us to PAY FOR OUR EXECUTION?!
Oh quit complaining. They aren't making us dig our own graves. Not yet.
That's only because they haven't figured out a way to profit from it yet. Death tax on the living, maybe?
;)
The CDC is only recommending Paxlovid for people at high risk. Not that I would take it. Very bad drug.
everything I've heard from Americans, is that it is extremely widely prescribed.
I check our biggest local regional hospital's covid treatment website regularly (which they have not updated since June of 2022). The only approved treatments they are offering are Paxlovid, Molnupiravir, and Run death is near aka Remdesivir. I stopped calling All the local Pharm D's a year and a half ago when I realized they had all been forced to drink the Purple Koolaid. Albeit, some were a bit helpful at the time by sharing tidbits of info with me reluctantly, like the fact that the PDR genetic injection insert phamphlets were completely blank. I'm in the US. Quick ask, could you AI generate the injections and the above meds and the helpful meds. I'm very curious as to what images would be generated. Thanks in advance if you do so. PS At the time, I also called All the local blood banks and elementary school nurses too, including the elemenatary school superintendant and a few university professors. The Sociology prof called the popo on me. The school nurses were instructed to not talk to me and referred me "only to the charge nurse." The popo were cool and said they'd be happy to take a look at Dr David Martin's documents from prosecutenow.io . I also called the state covid dept and shared the WHO's "IMPLIED Consent" document that stated if you sent your child to school that day. They were not aware of it and said they would look into it. The elementary school superintendant took down a bunch of legitiment websites from alt media that I shared with him. He also informed me of "PODS" aka points of distribution/dispersement sites to inject that trumped state laws if schools received covid monies.
Wow Jayne Doe. Gutsy!
Pilamaya.
Anyone can get Pax, and most of them do. My 3x jabbed brother-in-law, 47 and very fit, ran for Pax as soon as he tested positive (coincidentally, right after the “bivalent booster”). Thankfully he was and is fine, but I couldn’t understand why he had wanted or was able to receive it. My husband and I came through it in April unjabbed and a-ok. When brother-in-law learned we weren’t planning to vax, he called us “the dumbest smart people I know.” I truly hope he won’t regret that in the future.
Hypervaccinated dementors of mine (in Germany) went and insisted they got paxlovid prescribed, within minutes of testing positive (which was itself minutes after getting their fourth shot, and berating me for doubting the efficacy...).
One of the benefits of private insurance, I am sure, seeing as paxlovid is indicated only in unvaccinated people. At least, it was only trialled in unvaccinated. These days study populations no longer seem to matter to the regulatory agencies.
“Hypervaccinated dementors”--oh, I am stealing this! 😂
The people I am thinking of are former mentors, people to whom I owe a great deal of gratitude for pointing me in the right direction early in my (current) career.
A mentor who decides to cancel you to your wider professional community because of a disagreement on anything, becomes a de-mentor.
I have no problem with people taking as many shots of this stuff as they want. I have a problem with them expecting me to. But tribal thinkers are simply not able to accept differing views on anything, to agree to disagree, or to come to a debate with anything except the expectation of destroying your enemy. I like coming to debates to learn. Sometimes I change my mind, sometimes I don't. What is the point otherwise?
Perhaps the eight mice were already booked.
Thanks, Viv, for bringing a quick smile to my face...such entertaining idiots in our world! (Not you!)
Oh I regularly entertain people with my idiocy!
Not idiocy - just an esteemed sense of humour - much appreciated, especially these days!
Agree. I live in NY. Many people I know directly or indirectly were immediately given Paxlovid as soon as they tested positive for Covid. Age and medical history didn’t matter.
Ugh. I'm sorry to hear that. People are so trusting. Do they not read at all? Paxlovid is as bad as Tamiflu.
They hand it out when someone tests positive, no matter perceived risk level or seriousness if the illness.
They are supposed to require a recent test of kidney (liver?) function. How this is done with a pharmacist being allowed to dispense it without prescription, I don't know. But that's the rule in the USA. I refused it simply because it's an experimental drug, but the product warnings about the need for kidney function and different regimen for the impaired should be a red flag too.
It probably depends on location and whether you can get to the doctor, but all of the covidians here in MA get Paxlovid no matter the age or risk.
So much for 'following the science' ! Ha! Do people realize that this drug can have serious interactions with other medications? SMH
Crucial point. In June 2022 I finally caught Covid and was prescribed that poison by my primary over the phone. Since I read sites like this, I refused. My case was mild, as are 99.8%. In my opinion, I was not at high risk of hospitalization. The only risk factor I had was age (60). Later I read a study of its efficacy (not very much, my opinion of course.) For the rest of the year, I researched routine drugs I took: the very common baby aspirin, statins, and blood pressure medications. Guess what? They are all but worthless for primary prevention*. Needless to say, my trust in the medical system has hit new lows.
*Read my Substack if you are curious about these topics.
Until the Covid vaccines came along, statins were the most profitable bamboozle ever perpetrated on the human race.
Once you start researching, you will lose all faith in the medical industry.
Ask your pharmacist or doctor and you will learn that everyone with a false positive test is “high risk”.
Here in the US, pretty much anybody who wants it can get it.
Masks on trains are indeed ridiculous but here in Maryland (maybe other US states too), going to the dentist is one of the remaining mask mandated experiences still in place. You walk in to the waiting room wearing a mask and until you get called back.
Then for a teeth cleaning you take off the mask, a masked hygienist, sits with their face in your face as they blow out your saliva into the room via the water blasters. You can literally see it atomizing into the air.
But thank God the authorities make have kept those mask mandates in place because otherwise you'd be killing grandmas. 😒
Never mind a price increase for an inoculation that few people want. US Medicare and Medicaid will reimburse the cost.
Plus, Pharma will foist a new anti-covid on us, as Paxlovid fizzles out.
Big Pharma comes out ahead.
heard youre out of a job, so I just went for a subscription. please keep up the good work
thanks so much
I'm shocked to hear that gambling is going on in this establishment.
I'm reminded of the Flintstones episode where Fred, an otherwise responsible father heading a modern stone age family, turns out to have a gambling addiction. "Bet bet bet!" (Forgive me, for I am a boomer. You can find the clip on YouTube.) But the analogy holds: The majority of people, of average or better intelligence, have a weak spot, a trust of authority or whatever, and are willing to unquestioningly take experimental elixirs unquestioningly.
And by "establishment" you mean casino i guess...
Albert Bourla CEO of Pfizer reminds me of Pharma Bro Martin Shkreli.