Know that when you see a younger person dying of heart failure or injured for life, with things like 10 foot long blood clots in the legs; or myocarditis, if they were un-vaccinated, it would be in the reporting.
We don’t have any RCT in Switzerland about it, that I know of.
Deaths cases per vaccination status reports tend to be scarce, lately. On 8th August 2022, for Covid deaths 7-day average, there was 17,86% unvaccinated, 22,62% fully vaccinated, 21,43% boosted and 38,10% unknown status...
So if you add up the vaccinated and then the boosted ( or made it simply a category of received injected poison at all ) and then could pull out also those in the “unvaccinated Covid deaths” those who died within 14 days of the shot and still considered unvaccinated , it’s so clear that the shots are more than twice as deadly . Same here in Mississippi . They deceive the stupid with these graphs , that at first glance looks like the unvaxxed die at slightly high rates when in reality they are 1/3 of the Covid deaths and the vaxxed are 2/3
Some portion of that 38% is likely vaxxed, and is contributing to the number of vaxxed who are suffering from these problems. With 44% certainly vaxxed, it wouldn't take many more to make the vaxxed a majority.
If they questioned the vaccines, their hothouse realities would collapse. They'd have the same nervous breakdowns and lurid freak-outs as the gender ideologues. They're so fragile, and so prone to wildly lashing out.
The extreme right is not just a major domestic issue. The fact is donald dump, although clearly the messianic 'leader' of the republiCON party and symbolically of the ectreme right globally does play a high profile role in the challenges facing President Biden and the United States Government as we approach what shall be a brutal and deadly winter of extreme violence and chaos.
I do believe however that the vaccines will work and once spring arrives the nation and world potentially could begin to finally begin building back better.
I’m naturally a pretty skeptical person, and I’m skeptical of the claims that the vaccine alone caused this uptick in deaths. However, I find it astonishing that so many people are completely unwilling to acknowledge that the vaccine is a likely or at least a partial culprit. The way I see it is there are three (maybe four) obvious potential causes that need to be investigated: Covid, covid lockdowns, the vaccine, and possibly drug use.
Covid is the big one - is the disease itself causing this?
The lockdowns created hospital shortages, people not getting early detection of diseases, economic problems leading to increased stress/suicides/drug and alcohol use.
The third major even is the vaccine - did the vaccine cause the increase in mortality we’re seeing now? It certainly seems to be correllated.
Drug use - it’s my understanding that leading causes of death for young people is still generally drug use. It’s exploded in my area, maybe this is a part of what we’re now seeing worldwide?
Regardless of the cause, I’m stunned when people rule out completely the vaccine. Honesty and science demand that we look at ALL potential causes.
to cause this kind of elevated mortality, the vaccine doesn't even have to be *that* dangerous. many, many pharmaceutical products would do as bad or worse if you gave them to 70% of everyone. it's the scale of mass vaccination more than anything.
Is this another use of the "Ferguson", the new proposed SI unit for an order of magnitude, initially used to indicate the empirical deviation from a computer model?
Like pregnancy and birth control. Many people think the pill eliminates pregnancy "except in rare cases," but high rates of pill use means a lot of pregnancy surprises. If 100 women take the pill consistently and carefully, on average, one will get pregnant every year. (Of course many are not consistent or careful, so the real success rate is lower). Practically speaking, that means if a particular married couple is trying to avoid pregnancy but knows an occasional "oops" might happen and is prepared to deal with a child at the "wrong" time, they're pretty much set. For that particular couple, the chance of a surprise baby is very low and, if it happens, will not be a "crisis." But if millions of women take the pill for 10 or 15 years at a time, and during most of that time a baby would be "crisis,' there are going to be A LOT of "crisis pregnancies." People think a 1% failure or complication rate means "it will almost never happen no matter how many people take this thing, so if I take it I'll be fine" but it really means "it will definitely happen to about 1% of people, so the more people who take this thing, the more people it will happen to." (And unlike a shot you have once or twice, in the case of the pill, that failure rate is per year, not per woman, and very few women take it for only one year.)
Which is why Planned Parenthood clinics are found in high schools promoting early 'safe sex' to teenagers. They've run the numbers and know that millions of teens taking the pill thinking they won't get pregnant results in tens of thousands of abortions guaranteed. Perfect business model for the greedy unethical.
This may be the most compelling statement of the entire discussion.
The population is not statistically sophisticated- narrative is far more compelling. With Covid deaths widely trumpeted (most being failures of proper early treatment) and vaxx morbidity and mortality denied, it is easy to hide a few excess deaths. The insurance companies are aware.
Obviously, the insurance companies are paying out a lot more claims. Could it be that they are getting that money back from some very deep pockets, with the proviso hat they button their lips?
True, but if it is the vaccines, why there is no excess mortality in the summer of 2021? I almost think it is more like drugs+alcohol abuse during the lockdowns showing up with some delay. If it is the vaccines we need a plausible biological causal pathway that leads to fatalities with this time lag. Not trying to underestimate the dangers of the mRNA vaccines but we have to be very cautious and have a bullet proof arguments.
The red blood corpuscles have an electrical charge which is neutralized by the spike protein and adjuvants. This causes clotting of the blood, which causes downstream collapse. This theory is the best biologic mechanism hypothesis I've run across in extensive reading.
Fair point, but what I mean is: how come there is no excess mortality in the summer months of 2021 which are right after most of the doses were administered? Can we claim those vaccine side effects are only starting to kill people after 6-12M onwards? Without data on the causes of those deaths we are not having a solid case yet, although I can imagine it is true.
An anecdote: close friend of my Mom died of cancer ca. 7M after her J&J shot . She was sure the cancer came because of the shot. She had corona and barely had any symptoms, but then was coerced by her loving daughter to get vaccinated ... you can't make this up, can you.
It would be a blow to all of us if we exaggerate the side effects. The vaccinators can then say 'see those conspiracy freaks were wrong so let's mandate this new BMGF juice tested on 5 humanised insects ' ;)
Recall that "Covid Mortality" in 2021 was ascribed to the "Delta Variant."
1 )No autopsies were done. There are recent articles with instructions for pathologists to differentiate Covid from Vaxx deaths, see also Prof Bhakti.
2) The morbidity and mortality curves from "Delta" were so correlated with injections that I thought that a fifteen year old might have noticed. The corrupt definition of "Vaxxed" versus the physical fact of "Injected" has been a very powerful source of confusion and disinformation.
3 ) Eugyppius' earlier comment above explains the technique- "Hiding in Plain Sight" but at a level where it could be dismissed due to the large numbers of injected.
4) As a "Depopulation" tool, the spike protein has not been very effective, as yet. The concerted economic and social damage has been able to conceal the effect. We do not have any estimate of the time series of the effects of the bioweapon. China and Russia have not widely adopted mRNA injections. Both are known to have long-term outlooks and do not slavishly follow quarterly reports.
5) Can you propose a 10 year model of the population effects of the spike injections? Within a "Ferguson?" (See my previous post for the explanation.) I certainly couldn't.
6) The Chinese, especially, may think they can wait for Western economic and thus societal collapse, while aiding the cause. Do you not think they are aware of the use of proper early treatment in suppressing Covid? I look at the "Internal Blockade" of Shanghai as a fairly sophisticated act of economic warfare against the West.
I think it’s an accumulation of fibrin clots over time ( like a very accelerated atherosclerosis ) that eventually chokes off the vessels . They are seeing these bizarre long and rubbery occluded vessels . Placentas also look strange ( I’m an OB ) and pregnancies are way more complicated now .
It could be if the deaths correlate with the booster rollout. You can see the rather good Swiss COVID dashboard here, which includes graphs of vaccination rollout:
If that was the case, it would have been hidden in the data somewhat by the COVID-caused wave of deaths over the winter, but if excess deaths started with the boosters then they'd have been rolled into those numbers and only become visible as the winter COVID/flu season retreated i.e. around March.
The over 65s have a much higher booster uptake than lower age groups, though for <65 is still a little under half took it. So that might explain the age split, but it could also be seen reasonably as evidence against given that there seems to be no excess death in the under 65s in Switzerland.
There is reason to expect such an effect a priori because Switzerland relied heavily on Moderna, and Moderna's tech became toxic on repeat doses as recently as 2017 with no solution on the horizon. In fact they pivoted to vaccine development vs drug development specifically because vaccines ... uh oh .... don't require repeat doses. So they could dodge the toxicity issue. Then COVID happened and suddenly everyone is being given 3 doses in rapid succession with safety trials on boosters largely ignored or broken, because, they reasoned, it was already known to be safe.
Another good point . There is speculation, I believe backed up by data that shows the first 2 injections don’t dismantle the immune system (we don’t know the long term effects). Adding booster upon booster might accelerate the process. I’ll try to find the data that supposes the above statement.
Here in the UK, and presumably elsewhere, heart disease is a conspicuous cause of the excess mortality. Mass roll-out of mRNA shots known to have the potential to cause myocarditis, much of which has a "sub-clinical presentation", ie., stealth-damage to the heart. WHO COULD POSSIBLY SPECULATE that this could have some relevance? Only crazy conspiracy theorists that's who. The levels of motivated reasoning going on among establishment and pro-establishment scientists and journalists now are incredible, even by the standards of the last three years.
The mechanism is there to believe this may be a problem, so when we see a safety signal, the assumption should be that the vaccines are causal until PROVEN otherwise. The impetus SHOULD be on them to say why it's definitely NOT the vaccine, not the other way around!
Yes! And that is the standard way drug safety is assessed. Mere associations (e.g., a patient on Drug X who mentions a headache, rash, digestive upset, etc) are enough to trigger the AE reporting process. The burden of proof is on the drug manufacturer, with the goal of erring on the side of caution. But in this era of covid injections, that process has been turned on its head.
Perhaps in theory that is the procedure. However, based upon my reading, the entire system is corrupt, more or less as follows. Pharma spends millions, sometimes billions of dollars developing new drugs (vaccine, etc.) When government provides funding, this is mostly NIAID (NIH) (Fauci Inc.) who decides who and what gets funded. In both cases, the researchers, whether at a university or a PI (principal investigator) face various pressures. To some extent, they are paid to make a product look good (or equivalently, make something look bad -- ivermectin is a good case.) Faced with loss of grants or future business will surely sway them to be something less than objective and impartial. Money and politics trump science. Even Federal employees have conflicts of interest: NIH or other agency may receive royalties on a patent; individual federal employees too; the supposedly impartial panels that review and approve new drugs likely have major conflicts of interest.
There are many ethical compromises in the supply side of medicine too (hospitals, insurance regulations, doctors and other personnel) but I'll skip over those for now.
These problems are not new, but they are pervasive. The profit and politics motives are severe impediments to true research and even ultimate safety for patients. The Covid-19 pandemic has merely brought the extent of the failure of institutions to greater public awareness.
Of course the details may differ in other nations.
I have no magic wand to solve the above problems. At the individual level, I am now leery of my medical care and when I can, I collect some information on drugs prescribed me. When I caught (mild) Covid, I was prescribed Paxlovid, which I refused. While I intend to keep my normal medical care, I am fortunate to live in a place where there are still some independent MDs not under the thumb of a corporation. I plan to use that as a sanity check on my "normal" provider.
I wonder if this is the case. They say that covid also causes vascular issues. Anecdotally as an unvaccinated person who got covid in 2021, it was hard to get back to working out. I exercise a lot and had a fairly mild case of covid, but it took a while to not be out of breath at the gym.
An unvaxxed 65 year old friend who had covid twice then got a stroke. Two blood clots in her brain. I wonder if it could have been caused by Covid itself. I advised her to use the FLCCC l Recover protocol.
Dr. Pierre Kory and flccc.net have good commentary on this, for Post- Covid recovery. You must understand that you have been exposed to a bioweapon.
There are some considerations:
First is your immune status, including Vitamin D and other nutrient levels.
Second is your infecting dose of Covid particles- I have read that three hundred visions is an infective dose.
Third is that the injections provide you with a huge dose of toxic spikes. The sequence of infection- injection vs injection - infection has not been properly studied, and there is a sensitive time series involved.
The U.S. military medical system's DMED database whistelblower disclosure (January) and the immediate [apparent] DoD data tampering in a desperate attempt to cover something up (February) offer an interesting thought experiment. Let's pretend, for now, that (prior to the claimed "glitch") the DMED data did, in fact, represent the overall medical issues the military medical system was seeing. If that's the case, then the whistleblowers rightly noted dramatic rises in various health issues (heart and circulation, cancers, and so forth) beginning in 2021. I argue that the population using the DoD medical system is likely to be free of many of the confounding issues you raise: surely the military's hospitals weren't closed during the pandemic, so they didn't skimp on diagnosis or care for diseases. Nor, it has been pointed out, were they motivated to look for Covid cases for profit, as the civilian medical system was. Increased drug abuse is unlikely since the military is strict about that. Thus, I argue the military is quite well insulated from many of the plausible issues affecting the civilian populace. Nor did the military's make-up change appreciably between 2016-2020 and 2021.
The only thing that changed drastically was the mandatory mRNA "vaccines" in early 2021.
It's no wonder they were so quick to hush up the increase in certain illnesses.
The (apparent) fact that they've done so, with to my knowledge no complaints, to me indicates that the vaccine cover-up is at the highest levels of the U.S. government. I suspect the issues are the same in many other countries, too.
Honestly don't know. I considered the (apparent) data tampering cover-up one of the more egregious red flags of the whole pandemic. Yet I've not heard any mention of it, even here in the "underground."
Those interested can google "DMED cover-up" and you will get many hits. Most of them, of course, so-called fact checkers telling one how an innocent error in the database unfortunately led to anti-vaxxers to make sensational and untrue claims. You see, the DoD forgot to correctly enter hundreds of thousands of patient records between 2016-2020, and this has been corrected (yes, that really is the official explanation!)
Yes, Crawford has covered DMED “glitch” extensively and with an open mind. Last I read, the data that was added to past years (making current years look less extreme) was from telemedicine visits. See his Substack.
Same. I want rigorous investigations, not just possible correlations. A major problem is that so many people got those shots, with so little apparent investigation into problems they cause both during the trial phase and during the distribution phase, AND that the shots did so little to stop people from actually contracting the virus. So now (aside from the OTHER problems you mention) we have to wonder if the virus causes long-term effects, the shots cause long-term effects, and/or getting the virus after getting shots causes long-term effects.
I’m a physician and there is a phenomen that is being called “long Covid “ and I treat it. It’s confusion and a prolonged lack of smell in most cases ( the olfactory nerve is compressed from brain edema Is the working theory ). It’s overused for sure as is fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue etc but patients I’ve known a long time and who are absolutely not hypochondriacs are totally wiped out. It is bizarre for sure but for some very real. It responds well to Luvox , steroids , and ivermectin as well as zinc / quercetin / high dose vitamin C / bromellain/ Resveratrol pretty quickly
If it's caused by Covid how come all cause mortality was exactly at the normal level prior to the jab roll out (0.76% - same as ever)?
If it's caused by drug use how come US insurance companies, who insure young, healthy, educated and generally well off people with good jobs, showed the same increases? And why has the death rate in the young of Europe, who have far better social support and no raging fentanyl or opioid crisis, also been high?
If it's caused by lack of access to health care how come the leading cause of death in the US is medical errors (#3 is doctors errors + #6 is adverse prescription drug interactions = which, if added up would be #1 cause of death). All cause mortality should actually go down if health care is restricted.
Nassim Taleb talks about the inordinant risk of having anything to do with doctors if your condition is non-fatal (admittedly, hard to tell on your own). Seeing a doctor for a non-lethal health issue is one of the most dangerous things anyone can do, statistically speaking.
And why has the increase in all cause mortality, in the beginning, been proportional to the number of jabs given? Today it likely is persisting due to longer term lethal jab effects.
We have no proof these increases are from the jabs but then we don't have anyone studying it. No autopsies on the jabbed. FDA and CDC claim to this day that not one fatality or adverse event has resulted from the jabs.
Without any other evidence the probability that it's from the jab is the only reasonable explanation.
Ed Dowd on Gettr is researching excess deaths among kids 0-14. They don’t tend to have delayed cancer treatment, fatal illnesses, overdoses or suicides. Will be interesting to see results.
“The law of unintended consequences is the only real law of history.”
- Niall Ferguson
It really doesn't matter to me. It is obvious that every single measure taken during this nonsense wasn't thought through (indeed made up) and resulted in much more suffering than any lives "saved ".
Total species level fail.
The first day of the lockdowns I looked at my wife and said; They are going to sacrifice saving the MOST lives for trying to save EVERY life.
She looked at me and said; They are going to DESTROY lives in order to SAY "if it only saves one life".
Your claims have been modeled by numerous people. It doesn’t hold water, namely because the most vaccinated countries are seeing the deaths, and in those countries, the most vaccinated areas are seeing the deaths, generally.
I think it was Ethical Skeptic that put up an interesting chart regarding the excess deaths in the US and the vaxx rate. It would seem that the NE, the area that is home to many Big Pharma firms, is heavily vaxxed but does not have have high deaths.
However, the midwest is almost as heavily vaxxed, and has lots of excess deaths.
Theory is that there were different lots -- maybe lower strength or saline-- given in the NE .
Our family of 4 - unvaxxed - all had covid 4 months ago. We've had zero health issues since...
As far as I can see Covid is just another type of flu - for most people as with the flu -- it's a nothing burger... for old half dead people - it can be a death sentence (but even then most survive).
We only need to look at the anecdotal reports of vax injuries involving celebrities and athletes... they are OFF the CHARTS...
Therefore they will be off the charts in the general population.
This is mostly attributable to vax injuries and immune system damage caused by shooting the poison multiple times.
In the US, many of the deaths have been noted by insurance actuaries-- aka these are working people with good jobs that provide life insurance. Not all jobs do that.
The vast majority are in the 25 to 44 age group. These are not necessarily people who are drug addicts or people suffering from cancers.
It is reasonable to expect that those with full time jobs (typically those covered by group health insurance) will be in better health and have fewer bad habits than the same ages who don't -- or can't -- work a job. Lamentably for many of the workers, they were either encouraged or mandated to take an experimental mRNA shot as a condition of employment.
I agree, that’s why everything should be on the table as to searching for a cause. I’m just blown away that other smart people, who rightly criticize the lockdowns and other fruitless measures, get stuck in their analysis when it comes to the vaccine. They claim that anyone who thinks the vaccine is causing this rise in mortality is an antivaxxer or a conspiracy theorist.
That's an interesting point. However, as a person who lives in the midwest, I've been seeing obese people waddling around for probably about 30 years now, and have never heard of anyone with that condition dying particularly young.
For somebody who is a "pretty sceptical person", you have clearly never been very sceptical about the claim that a "virus" is the cause of all these things.
Simply put, no virus has ever been isolated and purified anywhere in the whole world, by anyone.
All we have is a few small stretches of DNA, which obviously can come from anywhere in a cell culture.
Not once therefore, has such an isolate been shown to be infectious - in a similar way, no exudate from any sufferer from the famous "Spanish Flu" was ever able to infect a healthy person, although strenuous attempts were made to do this.
I highlight the word virus because the word means "poison" and we have therefore no reason to believe that it is any such thing; it is more accurately described as a cell breakdown or response product, which has no relation to disease whatsoever.
Furthermore, the parties inflicting this medical hoax upon us fail to clarify that their declaration of a "pandemic" first required them to redefine the word, so that no pathology was needed; rather, the simple declaration that "something was spreading" - and this could as easily have been a desire to tattoo oneself - or a psychological need to mask one's face, despite there being no evidence that this was helpful - rather, that one thereby reduced one's oxygen levels.
Finally, of course, you do not seem to have noticed that as the incidence of "covid" went up, the incidence of "flu" went down, and in fact completely disappeared.
This covid event therefore is entirely psychological in origin and incidence.
You’re right, I’m skeptical about most things but not skeptical that viruses themselves exist. I haven’t looked into it much. I did get covid and lost my sense of smell, one of the “classic” covid symptoms I had. I know others who had similar experiences. Those people are not at all hypochondriacs, so I have a hard time thinking it’s all in my head or in their heads. I agree, the “decline” in flu cases seems to be a figment of not actually looking for it. I do agree that covid seems to be massively overblown. For such a deadly disease, I know no one who has died from it. I know a couple who had more serious cases, but nothing remotely close to needing a ventilator. Virtually everyone I know has had it by now.
As a sceptic, you should look into the "virus question", which was propagated first by Pasteur as part of an operation to deny British ships berthing rights in the Med, "because they were infected."
He knew nothing of viruses, but it's just an updated version of the same narrative which he spun around bacteria.
After his death, his notebooks were taken into custody, and in them he admits that he was never able to prove these infectious particles exist.
Neither were the many scientists who tried to infect naiive subjects with exudates from "Spanish Flu" sufferers able to do so - despite trying extremely hard.
They would even get the sick to cough and splutter into the faces of healthy persons - but no luck.
All we know about "viruses" is that certain structures are seen either budding from, or entering into, cells which seem to be experiencing illnesses of one sort or another - but whereas the acceptable but increasingly challenged narrative is that the direction of movement is inwards, it is just as possible that it is outwards - electron micrograph pictures are not videos, so we see no movement in them.
Dr Andrew Newman and Dr Stefan Lanka and Dr Tom Cowan are all very knowledgeable about this subject, and are at the forefront of the new paradigm which is destroying the old consensus - and not before time.
They were also the people present at the military base where experiments were being done with new forms of EM radiation.
Marconi' also did many such experiments, and his health problems - and those of his wife - really kicked off in synchrony with them.
Obviously, the Bill Gateses of the time didn't want this to become known, because vaccine profits would suffer, so they had to devise a cunning plan to explain the outbreak of this new and deadly plague, and so - voila.
Honest question - is the viruses don’t exist argument that people aren’t actually getting sick? Or is it just arguing that people aren’t getting sick in the way we’re told (through a virus)?
For me, it seems clear that people get sick from other people. In fact, I got covid from a neighbor who told me I had been exposed before I even had symptoms. How that happens, I don’t fully understand.
Such arguments would be regarded as straw men, ie "We never said that."
What we say is that something exists - we can see them in electron micrographs.
However, such items have never been isolated and shown to cause disease - the likelihood is that they are emissions from damaged, dying, or diseased cells whose job is to communicate with other cells - they do NOT "cause disease", because this has never been demonstrated, either with "covid", or with "Spanish Flu", or with - you name it.
So - people are getting sick as they always do - the Grim Reaper tends to make his rounds in wintertime, when vitamin D levels are low - and stress is high - mostly because of relentless government lying to the people.
It would be a false premise to assume that people get sick from other people - this is the narrative, but it isn't true. You get sick because YOUR vitamin D levels are low, and because of a variety of what are known as "co-morbidities" - you will know that these are invariably seen in the statistics; people are old, they have co morbidities - or they have been "vaccinated", a state of being which clearly enormously increases mortality and morbidity.
"I got covid from a neighbour"
This is an assumption you have made because you have been relentlessly propagandized to believe it.
Note that, as "covid" increased, then "flu" decreased in perfect synchrony.
NOBODY has EVER isolated the C-19 virus - so called - and nor has anybody ever been able to diagnose its presence, as the CDC and NIH state categorically that PCR tests, the so called "Gold Standard" and LFT tests, the brass standard, are not fit for purpose. You can only diagnose a particular affliction if you can show that the infectious agent is present, and this has never been done.
Honest question again - what about something like AIDS or smallpox? Smallpox is a disease that has a pretty clear set of symptoms. Are you arguing that something like smallpox doesn’t actually exist, or that it does exist, it’s just something that has a different mechanism of transmission than we’ve been told?
What is interesting is that the excess death profile by age seems to be different in CH vis-a-vis other countries that are reporting early data. The lack of excess deaths in the younger age groups is striking in this context. If it's the vaccines, then they are not exhibiting the same effects everywhere.
as a rule, 65+ have had more vaccine. it's conceivable also that the under-65 cohort is posting too few deaths overall for the signal to come through clearly. a 12% increase, like the 65+ crowd posted at the end of August, would be 16 extra deaths in the under 65s ... easy to miss in random fluctuations.
There could also be an impact from actual covid mortality during the pandemic. We aren't seeing big increases in excess mortality in the oldies in, say, the USA and UK, but remember, given their high covid mortality (relative to Switzerland), we really ought to have seen decreases as deaths were pulled forward. This "pull forward" effect isn't included in excess mortality definitions. So " no excess mortality among the old" could hide considerable vax induced mortality.
Also, we should be looking for variation the age distribution of doses by country. At least if anyone is serious about figuring out what's going on.
the swiss statistics (unlike many others) do calculate a pull-forward effect, and so there's another potentially intriguing (more conspiratorial) explanation: the pandemic-era excess mortality was somehow greatly exaggerated, and so there was no pull-forward effect, and the statistical attempt to account for it yields mirage excess deaths in the present.
Maybe the Swiss healthcare system being "under considerable pressure" is the cause, and excess deaths are the effect. More older nurses and doctors than usual probably took early retirement during the past few years. Others were forced out or sought greener pastures. I certainly wouldn't trust hospital administrators on the subject.
For hospital admins trying to CYA, splitting one office visit into several records might not be too difficult. There is the initial consult, then labs, x-rays, etc.
I'm wondering if the medical system just has less capacity than before, because of the COVID measures. The very people who instituted those measures, hospital admins, would resist being blamed, and they also have the means to obfuscate the number of consultations. Doctors just see more traffic to their still-open practice, and don't know the reason.
Switzerland made its own vaccine, they used a lot of Moderna stuff that was licensed and produced by the Swiss company Lonza. So yes, their vaccine was different from the US Version.
See Defenestrations of Prague. During religious struggles of the Protestant reformation. The officials tossed out a window in 1618 actually survived a 70 ft drop, either due to angels or to landing in a dung heap, depending on who told the story.
A guy was thrown or fell out of a window near the top of a skyscraper. Halfway down someone in an open window yelled out, 'How you doing?" The guy falling yelled back, "So far, so good."
I live in Switzerland and while I don't know many people in that age group, the CEO (60+) at the company where I work is talking about enjoying early retirement since he lost three friends (between 60 and 70 yo) in the past months due to various health issues which made him realize life is short. I assume (educated professionals in finance jobs) they complied with the recommendations and got boosted at least once beginning of this year (I only know for certain about our CEO though).
Yes, like here in Florida in the winter. Sometimes it's so cold we have to put on a light layer 😁 (in fairness, it can get well below freezing, but infrequent.) Summer is...well, let's just say it's the "low season" for good reason!
The medical industrial complex will never admit they were wrong, instead all excess mortalities in spite of the obvious evidence to the contrary will be attributed to “long CoVid”.
With the cold season soon arriving in Europe ,the immune compromised from the venom addiction will experience sickness and death never seen before. because of the impossible task of making heat without fuel .One way that issue could be solved is eating beans every day by the whole population .My wife tells me every time I eat beans I let a lot of gas go .What a wast .Our sickness Authorities can make it mandatory to catch that gas for heating .There are also negotiations with the Dutch to send the unwanted cow farts to Germany for heating .As we all know there is no limit what our leaders can do if all of these gases are made mandatory for heating in Germany .
"The reason must be anything but hastily developed garbage pharmaceutical products with a poor side-effect profile administered en masse, in multiple doses, to millions of people for no reason."
Amazing to watch the willful blindness and absurd presstitute theories.. it may buy them some time but as the casualties touch individual lives in staggering numbers until there is nowhere left to hide.
If you really think about it, it is mind bending to think that a pharmaceutical could be impacting excess mortality stats. The sheer scale of it. I sometimes have to pinch myself, but it remains the most likely possibility.
it's really the scale of the vaccination campaign more than anything. the vaccine probably only raises your individual mortality risk a little, but when you give it to 70-80% of everyone, deaths go up. same thing if force-fed everybody peanuts, or added 1000 extra kilometres to everyone's annual car travel.
Given how many people were forced to take the shots, I am actually surprised the increase in all cause mortality has not been worse. Statisticians point out the damage as multiple sigma events, but it's still surprising the impact looks relatively small on an absolute basis.
Perhaps we will see more of an impact from the formula tested on 8 mice, especially if the regime forces another round of compliance.
Now that everyone has had some exposure to Spike proteins, the "old school" covid death of someone on a ventilator in a hospital is a thing of the past. That was a product of an over-exuberant immune response to a novel virus the body had never encountered before. And because an over-exuberant immune response was the main cause, vitamin D would have worked well to dramatically reduce mortality and severe disease.
COVID mortality is now dominated by the indirect effects: Infection of endothelial cells, particularly senescent endothelial cells:
The result of this, along with the accompanying immune response, is that for a couple of months you see increased risk of stroke and cardiovascular disease after infection:
If the virus preferentially infects senescent endothelial cells, you would expect the effect to be concentrated among people already at risk of cardiovascular events.
Infection rates have reached dramatic new heights, because of the failure of the mass vaccination campaign, which has escalating negative efficacy against novel variants.
When you look at the situation through the model of excess mortality as an indirect effect of mass vaccination exacerbating the waves of Omicron infections, you become able to explain a bunch of stuff that otherwise looks mysterious:
-Countries that vaccinated early doing worse than late vaccinators (OAS). See: UK, Israel.
-Countries that vaccinated before most people have had any natural exposure doing particularly bad. See: Australia.
-Countries that pursued herd immunity doing relatively better: See Sweden, where cumulative excess mortality is now below Finland.
-Excess "non-COVID" mortality generally tends to rise and fall together with COVID mortality.
Whether Omicron variants are more or less damaging than pre-Omicron variants is just one side of the equation. The other side is: How often are people getting infected by Omicron variants?
Edinburgh's Omicron wave peaked at about 5-10 times as many active infections last month as the peak of their pre-Omicron waves:
And so if the virus has gotten less damaging due to intrinsic reductions in virulence and buildup of herd immunity, but we're simultaneously suffering unprecedented waves of mass infection because most of the population is stuck with a bad immune response, which can be independently verified through RNA in sewage, it would explain the wave of excess mortality, which has so far caused more excess deaths this year than during the past two years.
Winter in the Northern Hemisphere- particularly Europe - should be a memorable one for the ages and man-made disasters…
The CDC is not a purveyor of truth, but I assume same is happening in the US. Anecdotally, my 52 year old seemingly healthy and boosted neighbor died of a heart attack last year, I know of a 50 year old healthy woman that died of a stroke after the vax and just had a 52 year old healthy friend suddenly develop kidney cancer and die. People die every day, but I don’t recall my parents knowing so many people dying at once when they were my age in the 1990s.
So people in the Royals organization ‘know’ (or communicate with, or are friends with, whatever) 5000 people between them. In the US, we average roughly 1.8 vaccine shots per person. (Just over 600 million doses, about 335 million people) Obviously this number is higher in adults, but we’re going to assume these 5000 people include an equal number of children, which is obviously going downplay the numbers. (again)
So the 5,000 people in the immediate Royals circle have taken roughly 9,000 doses between them. The German government recently stated that serious adverse reactions occur about every 5,000 doses — meaning that it’s very likely that there are two people in the immediate 5,000-person circle who have had a bad reaction themselves. (Direct evidence)
But when you talk to your friends, they also talk about THEIR friends, don’t they? Once again we’ll assume the ‘worst’ for our math and assume THOSE friends also only know 100 new people to add to the circle.
5,000 person ‘immediate’ circle x 100 people = 500,000 ‘friend-of-a-friend’ circle
And since those people also average 1.8 shots per person, there are 900,000 doses between them. And using the German 1-in-5000 doses data, that means we can expect 180 serious vaccine reactions in those 900,000 doses. That’s a lot of stories that get relayed (via circle 1) back to the Royals (or whoever — because remember, this works with any group of 50 people).
Haven't read the newspaper article, but the graph fudges a bit by grouping together all the over-65s. The official Swiss data breaks the elderly into two groups, 65-79 and 80+ yrs. It's the latter group which has been hit dramatically, at least in a comparison to week 34 of each year:
2020 - 28,198 deaths
2021 - 27,303
2022 - 29,924
In the 65-79 group, the picture is much more stable:
2020 - 11,122
2021 - 11,472
2022 - 11,440
These are raw numbers, which haven't been massaged for age standardization etc. They're published weekly, and give national figures for past six years as well as breakdowns by Swiss cantons. If anyone's interested, here's the link
The real answers to the mortality conundrum will not be apparent for at least another two years, when actual cause of death stats for 2021 and 2022 are available. Compilation, coding and verification of cause of death takes quite a bit of time. In France, for example, it takes three years or more.
For the time being, Swiss cause of death figures for 2020 are now available, and can be perused at
Analyzing and drawing bulletproof inferences from the future data will take years. But I think Eugyppius is clearly posing the right questions, and it's also clear that officials in virtually all countries have decided that shamelessly dodging these questions is the best policy.
I think older people tend to be far more trusting of doctors than the young. They grew into adulthood at a time when our public institutions operated more closely to their stated purpose. Doctors were heroes and the practice of medicine was viewed in an overwhelmingly positive light.
One elderly gentleman I work for says some of the most ridiculous things. We have had numerous talks about both COVID and the jabs. He is of course fully vaccinated and double boosted at this point. He has developed severe tremors and some strange neurological issues. Of course these may very well be related to his age (76). But the very idea that it could be linked to the Jabs is not even considered. Why not? Well, in his words, "It is foolish not to follow the advice of your physician."
This and other things he has said make it quite clear that no matter what, doctors are to be trusted, at all times and in all ways.
I’m a physician and have been against these from the very beginning. I’m also in a doctor texting feed of about 47 like minded ones and we are all flabbergasted with the blinders and lack of critical thinking skills or even just natural curiosity of what might possibly be killing our patients .. and it most definitely is . Ive been warned about speaking out and for my exemption letters I’ve written by the hundreds and for ivermectin scripts . The curious observations of cancers in remission for decades coming back like wildfire shortly after the shots , the leukemia in healthy teenagers , the heart arrhythmias in young and healthy folks , Parkinson’s , and just bizarre rage reactions and extreme forgetfulness in young people makes me question these shots … but then I’m just a conspiracy theorist who isn’t using “ science “ although “ science “ and the government recommendations have not been amended despite way , way more blaring info out there
I certainly meant no disrespect to those physicians like yourself who are risking carears and livelihoods. When the stakes are so high, and yet you choose to do the right thing, you earn my highest respect.
For how much longer I wonder can authorities in every country keep the lid on all this. Who will crack first?
Despite the efforts of the controlled and subservient MSM I do detect the signs of a Great Awakening amongst the public at large. Who, or should I say how many, people are you are aware of in your social circle who are departed/significantly injured. Maybe, just maybe, that will make some actually think.
It will be interesting to see the percentage take up of the "boosters" - assuming as always that the bastards tell the truth.
The lid stays on until the TV (aka MSM) says otherwise. It’s amazing to me how few seemingly well educated people still know so little about, or nothing about, the vax AE’s and excess deaths. They rely on the TV for The Truth™️.
The news automatically becomes the real world for the TV user and is not a substitute for reality, but is itself an immediate reality. -- Marshall McLuhan
Besides the shots and boosters there is Remdesivir and the ventilators . My brother was killed that way when he went to the hospital because of a flu .
Journalists and their editors are now getting their noses rubbed into the truth every time they try to run cover for the sudden and unexpected injuries and deaths, while making the mistake of leaving the comment section open. They can't hold it back for much longer.
A guarded endorsement of Financial Times. I have a free account, and some articles allow comments. Sometimes I've been censored, but I give them credit on what they allow to remain. Recently some wise ass called FT the UK equivalent of USA's Wall Street Journal -- if the WSJ had hired its writers from Mother Jones (a US magazine, extremely Leftist/Liberal -- they were Progressive before Progressive was cool, so to speak.)
At the mainstream press that still permit comments, I and often others will remark that the comment section is often as good as, or even better than the article. (In most cases, the latter achievement is not a difficult one 🤣 ) It's by turns amusing or appalling how vacuous is much of the product in what once were reasonably respectable publications.
I know right! The use of the term 'baffled' and/or 'unexplained' re cause of death (or hospitals being overwhelmed) by doctors must have gone up 10,000% since vax rollouts. Another coincidence!
I often speculate on how "They" would react, if forced to face defeat. I'm certainly no expert, but I suspect there is some form of deep denial operative, in both individuals and groups. The core issue is that They are in so deep, lies piled atop lies, that there's probably no realistic way they can "walk it back". The authorities knew -- or should have known -- much of the science, the dangers, the limitations, the unknowns, even at the pandemic's outset, or before the "vaccines" were even released. The "Noble Lie" excuse will only go so far. Also the understandable "We had no choice but to remain silent and go along, otherwise we would have lost our jobs." (say, from your MD.) Well that may be true, but that just opens them up to more cross examination. If they would lie about that, what wouldn't they lie about? Why should I trust them anymore? And the short answer is I don't.
"The reason must be anything but hastily developed garbage pharmaceutical products with a poor side-effect profile administered en masse, in multiple doses, to millions of people for no reason. Exotic theories about how the heatwaves are especially devastating for Long Covid victims, deliberate overstatement of Omicron-associated mortality, wasp stings – anything but the vaccines."
The goldfish was NOT eaten by the cat. We don't know what happened to the goldfish (alas, there was no security camera in the vicinity of the aquarium). Most likely, Fido the neighbor's dog broke in and stole the goldfish. Or maybe the goldfish ran away by itself somehow. Fish are smart and cunning, after all. But what we do know for sure is that the goldfish was absolutely NOT eaten by the cat.
We did an analysis of the real causes on Real Hero
French https://t.co/CVV7bhZmtH
and German https://t.me/real_hero_official/527
Summary on Twitter
https://twitter.com/cuendetv/status/1567060699557281798?s=21&t=Xaphp-v6Du6_0dlrNcSkQg
Summer overmortality🇨🇭
Analyzed in detail in relation to:
- Age class involved: 85+ who are above life expectancy
- Temperatures: not so high and especially not 10 weeks heat as mortality
- Influenza in the spring (Sentinella) correlated to more deaths
- Booster doses 💉 correlated to more deaths.
Graphics and sources in the links
What do the RCT, randomized clinical trials, present?
Are the unvaxxed, at any age, having the same issues, dying when they ought not to?
Know that when you see a younger person dying of heart failure or injured for life, with things like 10 foot long blood clots in the legs; or myocarditis, if they were un-vaccinated, it would be in the reporting.
if vaccinated it goes unreported, correct. These Murderers will pay on JUDGMENT DAY.
It is already reported to The LORD. They will pay on Judgment Day.
I want them to pay Now.
How long, O Lord? How long?
We don’t have any RCT in Switzerland about it, that I know of.
Deaths cases per vaccination status reports tend to be scarce, lately. On 8th August 2022, for Covid deaths 7-day average, there was 17,86% unvaccinated, 22,62% fully vaccinated, 21,43% boosted and 38,10% unknown status...
https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/vaccination/status?indicator=death&vaccStatusDevRel=relative
So if you add up the vaccinated and then the boosted ( or made it simply a category of received injected poison at all ) and then could pull out also those in the “unvaccinated Covid deaths” those who died within 14 days of the shot and still considered unvaccinated , it’s so clear that the shots are more than twice as deadly . Same here in Mississippi . They deceive the stupid with these graphs , that at first glance looks like the unvaxxed die at slightly high rates when in reality they are 1/3 of the Covid deaths and the vaxxed are 2/3
With 38% unknown status, the other percentages seem meaningless.
Some portion of that 38% is likely vaxxed, and is contributing to the number of vaxxed who are suffering from these problems. With 44% certainly vaxxed, it wouldn't take many more to make the vaxxed a majority.
uhhh....ummm....NOPE!
There is only one VICTORY in life from which NO DEFEAT can destroy. John 3.3, 33-34- or Revelation 13. You have Free Will.
You know using twitter only helps the vaccinators, right? It's really sad to see those who should know better continue to use such a pathetic app.
If they questioned the vaccines, their hothouse realities would collapse. They'd have the same nervous breakdowns and lurid freak-outs as the gender ideologues. They're so fragile, and so prone to wildly lashing out.
If they ever try to question vaccines or even admit that technology had a mistake in it,it would be something similar to zombi apocalypse.
The extreme right is not just a major domestic issue. The fact is donald dump, although clearly the messianic 'leader' of the republiCON party and symbolically of the ectreme right globally does play a high profile role in the challenges facing President Biden and the United States Government as we approach what shall be a brutal and deadly winter of extreme violence and chaos.
I do believe however that the vaccines will work and once spring arrives the nation and world potentially could begin to finally begin building back better.
You're hilarious. Don't stop!
That’s some excellent satire!
I’m naturally a pretty skeptical person, and I’m skeptical of the claims that the vaccine alone caused this uptick in deaths. However, I find it astonishing that so many people are completely unwilling to acknowledge that the vaccine is a likely or at least a partial culprit. The way I see it is there are three (maybe four) obvious potential causes that need to be investigated: Covid, covid lockdowns, the vaccine, and possibly drug use.
Covid is the big one - is the disease itself causing this?
The lockdowns created hospital shortages, people not getting early detection of diseases, economic problems leading to increased stress/suicides/drug and alcohol use.
The third major even is the vaccine - did the vaccine cause the increase in mortality we’re seeing now? It certainly seems to be correllated.
Drug use - it’s my understanding that leading causes of death for young people is still generally drug use. It’s exploded in my area, maybe this is a part of what we’re now seeing worldwide?
Regardless of the cause, I’m stunned when people rule out completely the vaccine. Honesty and science demand that we look at ALL potential causes.
to cause this kind of elevated mortality, the vaccine doesn't even have to be *that* dangerous. many, many pharmaceutical products would do as bad or worse if you gave them to 70% of everyone. it's the scale of mass vaccination more than anything.
Exactly why the safety standards for vaccines ought to be one or two orders of magnitude higher than that for "mere" pharma drugs, not just as much.
Or less.
testing on 8 mice should do it. Specially if they all get sick ! The babylon bee went even further. And then the FDA approves it in 3.8 seconds.
They're lower! And, as we see, they're now flouted altogether, with impunity.
Is this another use of the "Ferguson", the new proposed SI unit for an order of magnitude, initially used to indicate the empirical deviation from a computer model?
Like pregnancy and birth control. Many people think the pill eliminates pregnancy "except in rare cases," but high rates of pill use means a lot of pregnancy surprises. If 100 women take the pill consistently and carefully, on average, one will get pregnant every year. (Of course many are not consistent or careful, so the real success rate is lower). Practically speaking, that means if a particular married couple is trying to avoid pregnancy but knows an occasional "oops" might happen and is prepared to deal with a child at the "wrong" time, they're pretty much set. For that particular couple, the chance of a surprise baby is very low and, if it happens, will not be a "crisis." But if millions of women take the pill for 10 or 15 years at a time, and during most of that time a baby would be "crisis,' there are going to be A LOT of "crisis pregnancies." People think a 1% failure or complication rate means "it will almost never happen no matter how many people take this thing, so if I take it I'll be fine" but it really means "it will definitely happen to about 1% of people, so the more people who take this thing, the more people it will happen to." (And unlike a shot you have once or twice, in the case of the pill, that failure rate is per year, not per woman, and very few women take it for only one year.)
Which is why Planned Parenthood clinics are found in high schools promoting early 'safe sex' to teenagers. They've run the numbers and know that millions of teens taking the pill thinking they won't get pregnant results in tens of thousands of abortions guaranteed. Perfect business model for the greedy unethical.
This may be the most compelling statement of the entire discussion.
The population is not statistically sophisticated- narrative is far more compelling. With Covid deaths widely trumpeted (most being failures of proper early treatment) and vaxx morbidity and mortality denied, it is easy to hide a few excess deaths. The insurance companies are aware.
"The insurance companies are aware" and yet they do nothing. I could be wrong, but that is what I see.
Obviously, the insurance companies are paying out a lot more claims. Could it be that they are getting that money back from some very deep pockets, with the proviso hat they button their lips?
True, but if it is the vaccines, why there is no excess mortality in the summer of 2021? I almost think it is more like drugs+alcohol abuse during the lockdowns showing up with some delay. If it is the vaccines we need a plausible biological causal pathway that leads to fatalities with this time lag. Not trying to underestimate the dangers of the mRNA vaccines but we have to be very cautious and have a bullet proof arguments.
Plausible biological causal pathway?
You didn't read any of the studies, did you?
1. Embolic disorders
2. Heart tissue damage
3. Brain disorders (including prions disorders).
4. Cancer.
5. Immunity disorders.
There are about 3 dozen major risk mechanisms but admittedly, most of them are types of the above.
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-does-every-vaccine-often-cause?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
The red blood corpuscles have an electrical charge which is neutralized by the spike protein and adjuvants. This causes clotting of the blood, which causes downstream collapse. This theory is the best biologic mechanism hypothesis I've run across in extensive reading.
Fair point, but what I mean is: how come there is no excess mortality in the summer months of 2021 which are right after most of the doses were administered? Can we claim those vaccine side effects are only starting to kill people after 6-12M onwards? Without data on the causes of those deaths we are not having a solid case yet, although I can imagine it is true.
An anecdote: close friend of my Mom died of cancer ca. 7M after her J&J shot . She was sure the cancer came because of the shot. She had corona and barely had any symptoms, but then was coerced by her loving daughter to get vaccinated ... you can't make this up, can you.
It would be a blow to all of us if we exaggerate the side effects. The vaccinators can then say 'see those conspiracy freaks were wrong so let's mandate this new BMGF juice tested on 5 humanised insects ' ;)
Recall that "Covid Mortality" in 2021 was ascribed to the "Delta Variant."
1 )No autopsies were done. There are recent articles with instructions for pathologists to differentiate Covid from Vaxx deaths, see also Prof Bhakti.
2) The morbidity and mortality curves from "Delta" were so correlated with injections that I thought that a fifteen year old might have noticed. The corrupt definition of "Vaxxed" versus the physical fact of "Injected" has been a very powerful source of confusion and disinformation.
3 ) Eugyppius' earlier comment above explains the technique- "Hiding in Plain Sight" but at a level where it could be dismissed due to the large numbers of injected.
4) As a "Depopulation" tool, the spike protein has not been very effective, as yet. The concerted economic and social damage has been able to conceal the effect. We do not have any estimate of the time series of the effects of the bioweapon. China and Russia have not widely adopted mRNA injections. Both are known to have long-term outlooks and do not slavishly follow quarterly reports.
5) Can you propose a 10 year model of the population effects of the spike injections? Within a "Ferguson?" (See my previous post for the explanation.) I certainly couldn't.
6) The Chinese, especially, may think they can wait for Western economic and thus societal collapse, while aiding the cause. Do you not think they are aware of the use of proper early treatment in suppressing Covid? I look at the "Internal Blockade" of Shanghai as a fairly sophisticated act of economic warfare against the West.
I agree. The pro-shot people took poor studies as proof, I don't want to do the same.
I think it’s an accumulation of fibrin clots over time ( like a very accelerated atherosclerosis ) that eventually chokes off the vessels . They are seeing these bizarre long and rubbery occluded vessels . Placentas also look strange ( I’m an OB ) and pregnancies are way more complicated now .
Can you explain further, "pregnancies are way more complicated now"?
Wow!
It could be if the deaths correlate with the booster rollout. You can see the rather good Swiss COVID dashboard here, which includes graphs of vaccination rollout:
https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/vaccination/persons
If that was the case, it would have been hidden in the data somewhat by the COVID-caused wave of deaths over the winter, but if excess deaths started with the boosters then they'd have been rolled into those numbers and only become visible as the winter COVID/flu season retreated i.e. around March.
The over 65s have a much higher booster uptake than lower age groups, though for <65 is still a little under half took it. So that might explain the age split, but it could also be seen reasonably as evidence against given that there seems to be no excess death in the under 65s in Switzerland.
There is reason to expect such an effect a priori because Switzerland relied heavily on Moderna, and Moderna's tech became toxic on repeat doses as recently as 2017 with no solution on the horizon. In fact they pivoted to vaccine development vs drug development specifically because vaccines ... uh oh .... don't require repeat doses. So they could dodge the toxicity issue. Then COVID happened and suddenly everyone is being given 3 doses in rapid succession with safety trials on boosters largely ignored or broken, because, they reasoned, it was already known to be safe.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/
Another good point . There is speculation, I believe backed up by data that shows the first 2 injections don’t dismantle the immune system (we don’t know the long term effects). Adding booster upon booster might accelerate the process. I’ll try to find the data that supposes the above statement.
This is very astute. The scale of the intervention is very important.
That’s a great point. Now, give them multiple dangerous drugs in tandem. I wonder what would happen. 🤔
but it is *that* dangerous
True. That’s a good point.
You see, this is the sort of open-minded inquiry that has been so sorely missing in the debate so far. Chapeau, mon ami!
Here in the UK, and presumably elsewhere, heart disease is a conspicuous cause of the excess mortality. Mass roll-out of mRNA shots known to have the potential to cause myocarditis, much of which has a "sub-clinical presentation", ie., stealth-damage to the heart. WHO COULD POSSIBLY SPECULATE that this could have some relevance? Only crazy conspiracy theorists that's who. The levels of motivated reasoning going on among establishment and pro-establishment scientists and journalists now are incredible, even by the standards of the last three years.
The mechanism is there to believe this may be a problem, so when we see a safety signal, the assumption should be that the vaccines are causal until PROVEN otherwise. The impetus SHOULD be on them to say why it's definitely NOT the vaccine, not the other way around!
Yes! And that is the standard way drug safety is assessed. Mere associations (e.g., a patient on Drug X who mentions a headache, rash, digestive upset, etc) are enough to trigger the AE reporting process. The burden of proof is on the drug manufacturer, with the goal of erring on the side of caution. But in this era of covid injections, that process has been turned on its head.
Perhaps in theory that is the procedure. However, based upon my reading, the entire system is corrupt, more or less as follows. Pharma spends millions, sometimes billions of dollars developing new drugs (vaccine, etc.) When government provides funding, this is mostly NIAID (NIH) (Fauci Inc.) who decides who and what gets funded. In both cases, the researchers, whether at a university or a PI (principal investigator) face various pressures. To some extent, they are paid to make a product look good (or equivalently, make something look bad -- ivermectin is a good case.) Faced with loss of grants or future business will surely sway them to be something less than objective and impartial. Money and politics trump science. Even Federal employees have conflicts of interest: NIH or other agency may receive royalties on a patent; individual federal employees too; the supposedly impartial panels that review and approve new drugs likely have major conflicts of interest.
There are many ethical compromises in the supply side of medicine too (hospitals, insurance regulations, doctors and other personnel) but I'll skip over those for now.
These problems are not new, but they are pervasive. The profit and politics motives are severe impediments to true research and even ultimate safety for patients. The Covid-19 pandemic has merely brought the extent of the failure of institutions to greater public awareness.
Of course the details may differ in other nations.
I have no magic wand to solve the above problems. At the individual level, I am now leery of my medical care and when I can, I collect some information on drugs prescribed me. When I caught (mild) Covid, I was prescribed Paxlovid, which I refused. While I intend to keep my normal medical care, I am fortunate to live in a place where there are still some independent MDs not under the thumb of a corporation. I plan to use that as a sanity check on my "normal" provider.
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I wonder if this is the case. They say that covid also causes vascular issues. Anecdotally as an unvaccinated person who got covid in 2021, it was hard to get back to working out. I exercise a lot and had a fairly mild case of covid, but it took a while to not be out of breath at the gym.
An unvaxxed 65 year old friend who had covid twice then got a stroke. Two blood clots in her brain. I wonder if it could have been caused by Covid itself. I advised her to use the FLCCC l Recover protocol.
Dr. Pierre Kory and flccc.net have good commentary on this, for Post- Covid recovery. You must understand that you have been exposed to a bioweapon.
There are some considerations:
First is your immune status, including Vitamin D and other nutrient levels.
Second is your infecting dose of Covid particles- I have read that three hundred visions is an infective dose.
Third is that the injections provide you with a huge dose of toxic spikes. The sequence of infection- injection vs injection - infection has not been properly studied, and there is a sensitive time series involved.
Fourth, do we really want to reveal our ages?
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Everything causes heart attacks now:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/go-experts-suggest-artificial-sweeteners-may-linked-heart-attacks/
Well, everything but the C0VIDvaxx. It's Tested, Safe and Effective (TM.)
The U.S. military medical system's DMED database whistelblower disclosure (January) and the immediate [apparent] DoD data tampering in a desperate attempt to cover something up (February) offer an interesting thought experiment. Let's pretend, for now, that (prior to the claimed "glitch") the DMED data did, in fact, represent the overall medical issues the military medical system was seeing. If that's the case, then the whistleblowers rightly noted dramatic rises in various health issues (heart and circulation, cancers, and so forth) beginning in 2021. I argue that the population using the DoD medical system is likely to be free of many of the confounding issues you raise: surely the military's hospitals weren't closed during the pandemic, so they didn't skimp on diagnosis or care for diseases. Nor, it has been pointed out, were they motivated to look for Covid cases for profit, as the civilian medical system was. Increased drug abuse is unlikely since the military is strict about that. Thus, I argue the military is quite well insulated from many of the plausible issues affecting the civilian populace. Nor did the military's make-up change appreciably between 2016-2020 and 2021.
The only thing that changed drastically was the mandatory mRNA "vaccines" in early 2021.
It's no wonder they were so quick to hush up the increase in certain illnesses.
The (apparent) fact that they've done so, with to my knowledge no complaints, to me indicates that the vaccine cover-up is at the highest levels of the U.S. government. I suspect the issues are the same in many other countries, too.
To summarize: the DoD is working for/with China. Why else would you destroy your own troops including hiding the destruction so you can continue it?
Truly brilliant.
I wonder if any group has requested/sued for a FOIA on this data? I'm not seeing anything online.
Honestly don't know. I considered the (apparent) data tampering cover-up one of the more egregious red flags of the whole pandemic. Yet I've not heard any mention of it, even here in the "underground."
Those interested can google "DMED cover-up" and you will get many hits. Most of them, of course, so-called fact checkers telling one how an innocent error in the database unfortunately led to anti-vaxxers to make sensational and untrue claims. You see, the DoD forgot to correctly enter hundreds of thousands of patient records between 2016-2020, and this has been corrected (yes, that really is the official explanation!)
I believe Mathew Crawford has done a number of articles about this on his Substack. E.g: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals-55a
Yes, Crawford has covered DMED “glitch” extensively and with an open mind. Last I read, the data that was added to past years (making current years look less extreme) was from telemedicine visits. See his Substack.
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Same. I want rigorous investigations, not just possible correlations. A major problem is that so many people got those shots, with so little apparent investigation into problems they cause both during the trial phase and during the distribution phase, AND that the shots did so little to stop people from actually contracting the virus. So now (aside from the OTHER problems you mention) we have to wonder if the virus causes long-term effects, the shots cause long-term effects, and/or getting the virus after getting shots causes long-term effects.
My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my Looooooong Covid.
Shit happens; just like with any other pathogenic infection.
It's funny that I know at least a couple hundred people who've had Covid and NONE of them have "long covid".
We'll all be paying for long covid "victims". It'll never be defined but every imagined symptom will get it's own premium billing code.
I’m a physician and there is a phenomen that is being called “long Covid “ and I treat it. It’s confusion and a prolonged lack of smell in most cases ( the olfactory nerve is compressed from brain edema Is the working theory ). It’s overused for sure as is fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue etc but patients I’ve known a long time and who are absolutely not hypochondriacs are totally wiped out. It is bizarre for sure but for some very real. It responds well to Luvox , steroids , and ivermectin as well as zinc / quercetin / high dose vitamin C / bromellain/ Resveratrol pretty quickly
And don’t forget getting shots after having covid- never understood why someone would, but hear that this is especially dangerous to do.
Trump’s fat ass got 3 jabs after recovering from the virus. He’s as brainwashed as the democrats.
Some schools and jobs made shots mandatory whether you'd had Covid or not.
They ignored natural immunity and put those students at even more risk. They need a scaffold with multiple trap doors. After fair trials, of course.
Are you serious?
If it's caused by Covid how come all cause mortality was exactly at the normal level prior to the jab roll out (0.76% - same as ever)?
If it's caused by drug use how come US insurance companies, who insure young, healthy, educated and generally well off people with good jobs, showed the same increases? And why has the death rate in the young of Europe, who have far better social support and no raging fentanyl or opioid crisis, also been high?
If it's caused by lack of access to health care how come the leading cause of death in the US is medical errors (#3 is doctors errors + #6 is adverse prescription drug interactions = which, if added up would be #1 cause of death). All cause mortality should actually go down if health care is restricted.
Nassim Taleb talks about the inordinant risk of having anything to do with doctors if your condition is non-fatal (admittedly, hard to tell on your own). Seeing a doctor for a non-lethal health issue is one of the most dangerous things anyone can do, statistically speaking.
And why has the increase in all cause mortality, in the beginning, been proportional to the number of jabs given? Today it likely is persisting due to longer term lethal jab effects.
We have no proof these increases are from the jabs but then we don't have anyone studying it. No autopsies on the jabbed. FDA and CDC claim to this day that not one fatality or adverse event has resulted from the jabs.
Without any other evidence the probability that it's from the jab is the only reasonable explanation.
Ed Dowd on Gettr is researching excess deaths among kids 0-14. They don’t tend to have delayed cancer treatment, fatal illnesses, overdoses or suicides. Will be interesting to see results.
“The law of unintended consequences is the only real law of history.”
- Niall Ferguson
It really doesn't matter to me. It is obvious that every single measure taken during this nonsense wasn't thought through (indeed made up) and resulted in much more suffering than any lives "saved ".
Total species level fail.
The first day of the lockdowns I looked at my wife and said; They are going to sacrifice saving the MOST lives for trying to save EVERY life.
She looked at me and said; They are going to DESTROY lives in order to SAY "if it only saves one life".
My wife is smart!..:)
It's amazing how many people did not think these things, and still don't think them...
Exactly. The basics.
Simple decisions. One's that wouldn't have required any decision making process prior to the vid.
Like; we do not sacrifice the young. Period.
They did wrong by everybody...but most don't see it.
Social contract busted.
The basics. Unreal.
Your claims have been modeled by numerous people. It doesn’t hold water, namely because the most vaccinated countries are seeing the deaths, and in those countries, the most vaccinated areas are seeing the deaths, generally.
I think it was Ethical Skeptic that put up an interesting chart regarding the excess deaths in the US and the vaxx rate. It would seem that the NE, the area that is home to many Big Pharma firms, is heavily vaxxed but does not have have high deaths.
However, the midwest is almost as heavily vaxxed, and has lots of excess deaths.
Theory is that there were different lots -- maybe lower strength or saline-- given in the NE .
Our family of 4 - unvaxxed - all had covid 4 months ago. We've had zero health issues since...
As far as I can see Covid is just another type of flu - for most people as with the flu -- it's a nothing burger... for old half dead people - it can be a death sentence (but even then most survive).
We only need to look at the anecdotal reports of vax injuries involving celebrities and athletes... they are OFF the CHARTS...
Therefore they will be off the charts in the general population.
This is mostly attributable to vax injuries and immune system damage caused by shooting the poison multiple times.
In the US, many of the deaths have been noted by insurance actuaries-- aka these are working people with good jobs that provide life insurance. Not all jobs do that.
The vast majority are in the 25 to 44 age group. These are not necessarily people who are drug addicts or people suffering from cancers.
It is reasonable to expect that those with full time jobs (typically those covered by group health insurance) will be in better health and have fewer bad habits than the same ages who don't -- or can't -- work a job. Lamentably for many of the workers, they were either encouraged or mandated to take an experimental mRNA shot as a condition of employment.
I agree, that’s why everything should be on the table as to searching for a cause. I’m just blown away that other smart people, who rightly criticize the lockdowns and other fruitless measures, get stuck in their analysis when it comes to the vaccine. They claim that anyone who thinks the vaccine is causing this rise in mortality is an antivaxxer or a conspiracy theorist.
But, not in Switzerland it seems. This sort of discrepancy makes it hard to be definitive about causes.
I'm also wondering if the effect of rising obesity (stemming from the lockdowns) also could be a contributing cause.
That's an interesting point. However, as a person who lives in the midwest, I've been seeing obese people waddling around for probably about 30 years now, and have never heard of anyone with that condition dying particularly young.
"Covid is the big one."
For somebody who is a "pretty sceptical person", you have clearly never been very sceptical about the claim that a "virus" is the cause of all these things.
Simply put, no virus has ever been isolated and purified anywhere in the whole world, by anyone.
All we have is a few small stretches of DNA, which obviously can come from anywhere in a cell culture.
Not once therefore, has such an isolate been shown to be infectious - in a similar way, no exudate from any sufferer from the famous "Spanish Flu" was ever able to infect a healthy person, although strenuous attempts were made to do this.
I highlight the word virus because the word means "poison" and we have therefore no reason to believe that it is any such thing; it is more accurately described as a cell breakdown or response product, which has no relation to disease whatsoever.
Furthermore, the parties inflicting this medical hoax upon us fail to clarify that their declaration of a "pandemic" first required them to redefine the word, so that no pathology was needed; rather, the simple declaration that "something was spreading" - and this could as easily have been a desire to tattoo oneself - or a psychological need to mask one's face, despite there being no evidence that this was helpful - rather, that one thereby reduced one's oxygen levels.
Finally, of course, you do not seem to have noticed that as the incidence of "covid" went up, the incidence of "flu" went down, and in fact completely disappeared.
This covid event therefore is entirely psychological in origin and incidence.
You’re right, I’m skeptical about most things but not skeptical that viruses themselves exist. I haven’t looked into it much. I did get covid and lost my sense of smell, one of the “classic” covid symptoms I had. I know others who had similar experiences. Those people are not at all hypochondriacs, so I have a hard time thinking it’s all in my head or in their heads. I agree, the “decline” in flu cases seems to be a figment of not actually looking for it. I do agree that covid seems to be massively overblown. For such a deadly disease, I know no one who has died from it. I know a couple who had more serious cases, but nothing remotely close to needing a ventilator. Virtually everyone I know has had it by now.
As a sceptic, you should look into the "virus question", which was propagated first by Pasteur as part of an operation to deny British ships berthing rights in the Med, "because they were infected."
He knew nothing of viruses, but it's just an updated version of the same narrative which he spun around bacteria.
After his death, his notebooks were taken into custody, and in them he admits that he was never able to prove these infectious particles exist.
Neither were the many scientists who tried to infect naiive subjects with exudates from "Spanish Flu" sufferers able to do so - despite trying extremely hard.
They would even get the sick to cough and splutter into the faces of healthy persons - but no luck.
All we know about "viruses" is that certain structures are seen either budding from, or entering into, cells which seem to be experiencing illnesses of one sort or another - but whereas the acceptable but increasingly challenged narrative is that the direction of movement is inwards, it is just as possible that it is outwards - electron micrograph pictures are not videos, so we see no movement in them.
Dr Andrew Newman and Dr Stefan Lanka and Dr Tom Cowan are all very knowledgeable about this subject, and are at the forefront of the new paradigm which is destroying the old consensus - and not before time.
The people who died from the Spanish ''Flu'' were the people who were vaxxed. Unvaxxed did fine.
Correct.
They were also the people present at the military base where experiments were being done with new forms of EM radiation.
Marconi' also did many such experiments, and his health problems - and those of his wife - really kicked off in synchrony with them.
Obviously, the Bill Gateses of the time didn't want this to become known, because vaccine profits would suffer, so they had to devise a cunning plan to explain the outbreak of this new and deadly plague, and so - voila.
Honest question - is the viruses don’t exist argument that people aren’t actually getting sick? Or is it just arguing that people aren’t getting sick in the way we’re told (through a virus)?
For me, it seems clear that people get sick from other people. In fact, I got covid from a neighbor who told me I had been exposed before I even had symptoms. How that happens, I don’t fully understand.
Such arguments would be regarded as straw men, ie "We never said that."
What we say is that something exists - we can see them in electron micrographs.
However, such items have never been isolated and shown to cause disease - the likelihood is that they are emissions from damaged, dying, or diseased cells whose job is to communicate with other cells - they do NOT "cause disease", because this has never been demonstrated, either with "covid", or with "Spanish Flu", or with - you name it.
So - people are getting sick as they always do - the Grim Reaper tends to make his rounds in wintertime, when vitamin D levels are low - and stress is high - mostly because of relentless government lying to the people.
It would be a false premise to assume that people get sick from other people - this is the narrative, but it isn't true. You get sick because YOUR vitamin D levels are low, and because of a variety of what are known as "co-morbidities" - you will know that these are invariably seen in the statistics; people are old, they have co morbidities - or they have been "vaccinated", a state of being which clearly enormously increases mortality and morbidity.
"I got covid from a neighbour"
This is an assumption you have made because you have been relentlessly propagandized to believe it.
Note that, as "covid" increased, then "flu" decreased in perfect synchrony.
NOBODY has EVER isolated the C-19 virus - so called - and nor has anybody ever been able to diagnose its presence, as the CDC and NIH state categorically that PCR tests, the so called "Gold Standard" and LFT tests, the brass standard, are not fit for purpose. You can only diagnose a particular affliction if you can show that the infectious agent is present, and this has never been done.
Honest question again - what about something like AIDS or smallpox? Smallpox is a disease that has a pretty clear set of symptoms. Are you arguing that something like smallpox doesn’t actually exist, or that it does exist, it’s just something that has a different mechanism of transmission than we’ve been told?
What is interesting is that the excess death profile by age seems to be different in CH vis-a-vis other countries that are reporting early data. The lack of excess deaths in the younger age groups is striking in this context. If it's the vaccines, then they are not exhibiting the same effects everywhere.
as a rule, 65+ have had more vaccine. it's conceivable also that the under-65 cohort is posting too few deaths overall for the signal to come through clearly. a 12% increase, like the 65+ crowd posted at the end of August, would be 16 extra deaths in the under 65s ... easy to miss in random fluctuations.
There could also be an impact from actual covid mortality during the pandemic. We aren't seeing big increases in excess mortality in the oldies in, say, the USA and UK, but remember, given their high covid mortality (relative to Switzerland), we really ought to have seen decreases as deaths were pulled forward. This "pull forward" effect isn't included in excess mortality definitions. So " no excess mortality among the old" could hide considerable vax induced mortality.
Also, we should be looking for variation the age distribution of doses by country. At least if anyone is serious about figuring out what's going on.
the swiss statistics (unlike many others) do calculate a pull-forward effect, and so there's another potentially intriguing (more conspiratorial) explanation: the pandemic-era excess mortality was somehow greatly exaggerated, and so there was no pull-forward effect, and the statistical attempt to account for it yields mirage excess deaths in the present.
That also makes sense.
Different batches? Delivered to different places? Not all the jabs were uniform in content or, even, contained the mrna component.
If you look up Ethical Skeptic on Twitter, he has some info on this. He also suspects that there were saline vaxxes given.
Maybe the Swiss healthcare system being "under considerable pressure" is the cause, and excess deaths are the effect. More older nurses and doctors than usual probably took early retirement during the past few years. Others were forced out or sought greener pastures. I certainly wouldn't trust hospital administrators on the subject.
reduced staff aren't making things easier, but the overall number of patients has increased
For hospital admins trying to CYA, splitting one office visit into several records might not be too difficult. There is the initial consult, then labs, x-rays, etc.
I'm not really sure what the argument here is? deaths are up, medical consultations are up, both at the same time. looks like people are sicker.
I'm wondering if the medical system just has less capacity than before, because of the COVID measures. The very people who instituted those measures, hospital admins, would resist being blamed, and they also have the means to obfuscate the number of consultations. Doctors just see more traffic to their still-open practice, and don't know the reason.
Switzerland made its own vaccine, they used a lot of Moderna stuff that was licensed and produced by the Swiss company Lonza. So yes, their vaccine was different from the US Version.
Hmmmmmm. That's interesting.
What is CH?
Switzerland. Confederatio Helvetica.
Confederatio Helvetica sounds like a typeface developed in Spain.
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I didn't know that--I recently discovered a word that was new to me: "defenestration".
See Defenestrations of Prague. During religious struggles of the Protestant reformation. The officials tossed out a window in 1618 actually survived a 70 ft drop, either due to angels or to landing in a dung heap, depending on who told the story.
A guy was thrown or fell out of a window near the top of a skyscraper. Halfway down someone in an open window yelled out, 'How you doing?" The guy falling yelled back, "So far, so good."
Best displayed by Longshanks in “Braveheart”. My favorite defenestration to date.
Corona Hypnosis
(ok, just kidding. Confoederatio Helvetica = Switzerland)
I live in Switzerland and while I don't know many people in that age group, the CEO (60+) at the company where I work is talking about enjoying early retirement since he lost three friends (between 60 and 70 yo) in the past months due to various health issues which made him realize life is short. I assume (educated professionals in finance jobs) they complied with the recommendations and got boosted at least once beginning of this year (I only know for certain about our CEO though).
It's clearly the heatwave! This year the thermostat hit 25C+ at least 3 times!
Yes, like here in Florida in the winter. Sometimes it's so cold we have to put on a light layer 😁 (in fairness, it can get well below freezing, but infrequent.) Summer is...well, let's just say it's the "low season" for good reason!
The medical industrial complex will never admit they were wrong, instead all excess mortalities in spite of the obvious evidence to the contrary will be attributed to “long CoVid”.
Long Bullshit!
With the cold season soon arriving in Europe ,the immune compromised from the venom addiction will experience sickness and death never seen before. because of the impossible task of making heat without fuel .One way that issue could be solved is eating beans every day by the whole population .My wife tells me every time I eat beans I let a lot of gas go .What a wast .Our sickness Authorities can make it mandatory to catch that gas for heating .There are also negotiations with the Dutch to send the unwanted cow farts to Germany for heating .As we all know there is no limit what our leaders can do if all of these gases are made mandatory for heating in Germany .
short on memory. looooooooong on victimhood.
Long John Silver
And climate.
"The reason must be anything but hastily developed garbage pharmaceutical products with a poor side-effect profile administered en masse, in multiple doses, to millions of people for no reason."
Amazing to watch the willful blindness and absurd presstitute theories.. it may buy them some time but as the casualties touch individual lives in staggering numbers until there is nowhere left to hide.
Anybody dies any time within 28 days of a positive corona test -- 100% corona death.
Somebody dies 2 days after vaccination -- eh, it could be anything.
Kind of SADS, really
If you really think about it, it is mind bending to think that a pharmaceutical could be impacting excess mortality stats. The sheer scale of it. I sometimes have to pinch myself, but it remains the most likely possibility.
it's really the scale of the vaccination campaign more than anything. the vaccine probably only raises your individual mortality risk a little, but when you give it to 70-80% of everyone, deaths go up. same thing if force-fed everybody peanuts, or added 1000 extra kilometres to everyone's annual car travel.
Given how many people were forced to take the shots, I am actually surprised the increase in all cause mortality has not been worse. Statisticians point out the damage as multiple sigma events, but it's still surprising the impact looks relatively small on an absolute basis.
Perhaps we will see more of an impact from the formula tested on 8 mice, especially if the regime forces another round of compliance.
From my redoubt in the rural United States, reports are that Germany and Australia are really doubling down on the crazy.
We need 80 to 90% of you boosted or you will force us to put you back into lockdown.
I really hope Trudeau gets his booster this month with the new formula.
Sorry, I forgot to include Canada in the crazy list.
I thought that as a result of recalibration, it went up to 9 mice.
Somewhere between eight and 10.
Bourla couldn't get Fauci to fund double digit mice tests, and they were too strapped for cash to cover it themselves.
To prove it's effect ,one mouse is enough . Is Schwabs first name louse or Klaus?
Now that everyone has had some exposure to Spike proteins, the "old school" covid death of someone on a ventilator in a hospital is a thing of the past. That was a product of an over-exuberant immune response to a novel virus the body had never encountered before. And because an over-exuberant immune response was the main cause, vitamin D would have worked well to dramatically reduce mortality and severe disease.
COVID mortality is now dominated by the indirect effects: Infection of endothelial cells, particularly senescent endothelial cells:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-15976-z
https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-022-02514-x
The result of this, along with the accompanying immune response, is that for a couple of months you see increased risk of stroke and cardiovascular disease after infection:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2022.904796/full
If the virus preferentially infects senescent endothelial cells, you would expect the effect to be concentrated among people already at risk of cardiovascular events.
Infection rates have reached dramatic new heights, because of the failure of the mass vaccination campaign, which has escalating negative efficacy against novel variants.
When you look at the situation through the model of excess mortality as an indirect effect of mass vaccination exacerbating the waves of Omicron infections, you become able to explain a bunch of stuff that otherwise looks mysterious:
-Countries that vaccinated early doing worse than late vaccinators (OAS). See: UK, Israel.
-Countries that vaccinated before most people have had any natural exposure doing particularly bad. See: Australia.
-Countries that pursued herd immunity doing relatively better: See Sweden, where cumulative excess mortality is now below Finland.
-Excess "non-COVID" mortality generally tends to rise and fall together with COVID mortality.
Whether Omicron variants are more or less damaging than pre-Omicron variants is just one side of the equation. The other side is: How often are people getting infected by Omicron variants?
Edinburgh's Omicron wave peaked at about 5-10 times as many active infections last month as the peak of their pre-Omicron waves:
https://www.rintrah.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/1scotlandsurvey.png
And so if the virus has gotten less damaging due to intrinsic reductions in virulence and buildup of herd immunity, but we're simultaneously suffering unprecedented waves of mass infection because most of the population is stuck with a bad immune response, which can be independently verified through RNA in sewage, it would explain the wave of excess mortality, which has so far caused more excess deaths this year than during the past two years.
So you mean, those excess deaths are late casualties of the huge Omicron waves indirectly caused by the vaccines! Good point!
This would explain why the excess mortality in 2022 is larger than the one in 2021 even if the huge bulk of the shots were given in 2021.
Winter in the Northern Hemisphere- particularly Europe - should be a memorable one for the ages and man-made disasters…
The CDC is not a purveyor of truth, but I assume same is happening in the US. Anecdotally, my 52 year old seemingly healthy and boosted neighbor died of a heart attack last year, I know of a 50 year old healthy woman that died of a stroke after the vax and just had a 52 year old healthy friend suddenly develop kidney cancer and die. People die every day, but I don’t recall my parents knowing so many people dying at once when they were my age in the 1990s.
Well.... the first theory is that the vaxxed will start dying a year and a half after their first shot.
Others says 2-5 years.
Or maybe nothing will happen, and PedoJoe will have to gin up a nuclear war to thin out the herd to nothing.
There's a reason for that. Almost any group will have somebody who knows a vaccine-injured person.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/vaccine-injuries-and-whit-merrifield
So people in the Royals organization ‘know’ (or communicate with, or are friends with, whatever) 5000 people between them. In the US, we average roughly 1.8 vaccine shots per person. (Just over 600 million doses, about 335 million people) Obviously this number is higher in adults, but we’re going to assume these 5000 people include an equal number of children, which is obviously going downplay the numbers. (again)
So the 5,000 people in the immediate Royals circle have taken roughly 9,000 doses between them. The German government recently stated that serious adverse reactions occur about every 5,000 doses — meaning that it’s very likely that there are two people in the immediate 5,000-person circle who have had a bad reaction themselves. (Direct evidence)
But when you talk to your friends, they also talk about THEIR friends, don’t they? Once again we’ll assume the ‘worst’ for our math and assume THOSE friends also only know 100 new people to add to the circle.
5,000 person ‘immediate’ circle x 100 people = 500,000 ‘friend-of-a-friend’ circle
And since those people also average 1.8 shots per person, there are 900,000 doses between them. And using the German 1-in-5000 doses data, that means we can expect 180 serious vaccine reactions in those 900,000 doses. That’s a lot of stories that get relayed (via circle 1) back to the Royals (or whoever — because remember, this works with any group of 50 people).
Haven't read the newspaper article, but the graph fudges a bit by grouping together all the over-65s. The official Swiss data breaks the elderly into two groups, 65-79 and 80+ yrs. It's the latter group which has been hit dramatically, at least in a comparison to week 34 of each year:
2020 - 28,198 deaths
2021 - 27,303
2022 - 29,924
In the 65-79 group, the picture is much more stable:
2020 - 11,122
2021 - 11,472
2022 - 11,440
These are raw numbers, which haven't been massaged for age standardization etc. They're published weekly, and give national figures for past six years as well as breakdowns by Swiss cantons. If anyone's interested, here's the link
https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/fr/home/statistiques/population.assetdetail.23366466.html
The real answers to the mortality conundrum will not be apparent for at least another two years, when actual cause of death stats for 2021 and 2022 are available. Compilation, coding and verification of cause of death takes quite a bit of time. In France, for example, it takes three years or more.
For the time being, Swiss cause of death figures for 2020 are now available, and can be perused at
https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/fr/home/statistiques/sante/etat-sante/mortalite-causes-deces/specifiques.html
Analyzing and drawing bulletproof inferences from the future data will take years. But I think Eugyppius is clearly posing the right questions, and it's also clear that officials in virtually all countries have decided that shamelessly dodging these questions is the best policy.
yes, I'm pretty sure it's the fourth-dose boosters in the 80+ bracket that's a partial cause here.
A true fourth dose story.
My BIL is CV vaxx injured. Shingles that turned to neuropathy. His wife admits he is vaxxine injured.
Yet... when I asked her about the next dose, she said she will do whatever her doctor wants her to do. He will probably not get dose 4, but she will.
I think older people tend to be far more trusting of doctors than the young. They grew into adulthood at a time when our public institutions operated more closely to their stated purpose. Doctors were heroes and the practice of medicine was viewed in an overwhelmingly positive light.
One elderly gentleman I work for says some of the most ridiculous things. We have had numerous talks about both COVID and the jabs. He is of course fully vaccinated and double boosted at this point. He has developed severe tremors and some strange neurological issues. Of course these may very well be related to his age (76). But the very idea that it could be linked to the Jabs is not even considered. Why not? Well, in his words, "It is foolish not to follow the advice of your physician."
This and other things he has said make it quite clear that no matter what, doctors are to be trusted, at all times and in all ways.
I’m a physician and have been against these from the very beginning. I’m also in a doctor texting feed of about 47 like minded ones and we are all flabbergasted with the blinders and lack of critical thinking skills or even just natural curiosity of what might possibly be killing our patients .. and it most definitely is . Ive been warned about speaking out and for my exemption letters I’ve written by the hundreds and for ivermectin scripts . The curious observations of cancers in remission for decades coming back like wildfire shortly after the shots , the leukemia in healthy teenagers , the heart arrhythmias in young and healthy folks , Parkinson’s , and just bizarre rage reactions and extreme forgetfulness in young people makes me question these shots … but then I’m just a conspiracy theorist who isn’t using “ science “ although “ science “ and the government recommendations have not been amended despite way , way more blaring info out there
I certainly meant no disrespect to those physicians like yourself who are risking carears and livelihoods. When the stakes are so high, and yet you choose to do the right thing, you earn my highest respect.
For how much longer I wonder can authorities in every country keep the lid on all this. Who will crack first?
Despite the efforts of the controlled and subservient MSM I do detect the signs of a Great Awakening amongst the public at large. Who, or should I say how many, people are you are aware of in your social circle who are departed/significantly injured. Maybe, just maybe, that will make some actually think.
It will be interesting to see the percentage take up of the "boosters" - assuming as always that the bastards tell the truth.
The lid stays on until the TV (aka MSM) says otherwise. It’s amazing to me how few seemingly well educated people still know so little about, or nothing about, the vax AE’s and excess deaths. They rely on the TV for The Truth™️.
The news automatically becomes the real world for the TV user and is not a substitute for reality, but is itself an immediate reality. -- Marshall McLuhan
Besides the shots and boosters there is Remdesivir and the ventilators . My brother was killed that way when he went to the hospital because of a flu .
And I could do nothing about it . I was by force prevented.
Journalists and their editors are now getting their noses rubbed into the truth every time they try to run cover for the sudden and unexpected injuries and deaths, while making the mistake of leaving the comment section open. They can't hold it back for much longer.
And any article without a comment section is extremely likely to be worthless.
Not just worthless, but offensive in its departure from reality.
To borrow a sardonic phrase from Voltaire, paraphrased here: "Every page is an insult to common sense."
A guarded endorsement of Financial Times. I have a free account, and some articles allow comments. Sometimes I've been censored, but I give them credit on what they allow to remain. Recently some wise ass called FT the UK equivalent of USA's Wall Street Journal -- if the WSJ had hired its writers from Mother Jones (a US magazine, extremely Leftist/Liberal -- they were Progressive before Progressive was cool, so to speak.)
At the mainstream press that still permit comments, I and often others will remark that the comment section is often as good as, or even better than the article. (In most cases, the latter achievement is not a difficult one 🤣 ) It's by turns amusing or appalling how vacuous is much of the product in what once were reasonably respectable publications.
Reason is the same way. The only reason (lol) that people go is for the comments.
Edit: I'll let you determine if that's also the case here, lol!
Edit edit: Oops I thought this was my 'Stack! Of course we don't just come HERE for the comments!
They are constantly baffled by all of this.
Totally. Baffled.
I know right! The use of the term 'baffled' and/or 'unexplained' re cause of death (or hospitals being overwhelmed) by doctors must have gone up 10,000% since vax rollouts. Another coincidence!
I often speculate on how "They" would react, if forced to face defeat. I'm certainly no expert, but I suspect there is some form of deep denial operative, in both individuals and groups. The core issue is that They are in so deep, lies piled atop lies, that there's probably no realistic way they can "walk it back". The authorities knew -- or should have known -- much of the science, the dangers, the limitations, the unknowns, even at the pandemic's outset, or before the "vaccines" were even released. The "Noble Lie" excuse will only go so far. Also the understandable "We had no choice but to remain silent and go along, otherwise we would have lost our jobs." (say, from your MD.) Well that may be true, but that just opens them up to more cross examination. If they would lie about that, what wouldn't they lie about? Why should I trust them anymore? And the short answer is I don't.
You have arrived at the only sane conclusion.
This is one of your greatest paragraphs:
"The reason must be anything but hastily developed garbage pharmaceutical products with a poor side-effect profile administered en masse, in multiple doses, to millions of people for no reason. Exotic theories about how the heatwaves are especially devastating for Long Covid victims, deliberate overstatement of Omicron-associated mortality, wasp stings – anything but the vaccines."
Ausgezeichnet!
Occam’s razor.
What is the simplest hypothesis?
Injecting billions of people in the middle of a pandemic with an untested novel pharmaceutical product.
The goldfish was NOT eaten by the cat. We don't know what happened to the goldfish (alas, there was no security camera in the vicinity of the aquarium). Most likely, Fido the neighbor's dog broke in and stole the goldfish. Or maybe the goldfish ran away by itself somehow. Fish are smart and cunning, after all. But what we do know for sure is that the goldfish was absolutely NOT eaten by the cat.
We are baffled by the absence of the goldfish, but suspect that it spontaneously combusted due to climate change.
Duh! I didn’t even think of Climate Change! That must be what caused South Korea all cause mortality to nearly double in April!