Wasn't it during the same week last summer when California declared that all cars sold in the state by 2030 had to be electric and then a few days later they asked people not to charge electric cars because of grid strain from the heat?
But yeah, let's give the state more and more power to control everything because they're doing such a bang-up job of it.
Sorry, horses generate too much methane...not allowed. LOL. It would take days to leave California on foot for most residents of the state. THAT is the point of the EV push....permanent confinement.
People can leave the same way they got there--in covered wagons. I don't believe horses make as much methane as cows or other ruminants. I wonder how much methane the original 30 to 60 million bison created before the US Army's program to get rid of them.
Total agreement - people are cowed into believing that only high-tech options can get them out of a pickle. It's is so often the opposite - it just takes more 'human' energy instead of machine-energy - in other words we need to get physical in order to show we are not just puff-cakes. And the whole methane argument is full of hot air - that's not how nature actually works.
I was reading a paper today on climate change about 54 million years ago. When the CO2 readings went from a low of 8-900 ppm which was the previous norm possibly all the way up to 6-7000 ppm.
Ours is about 415ppm right now. But the 280-415 bit over the last 50 years or so did happen faster than 54m years ago when such an increase might have taken 15000 years. 280ppm could maybe considered too low?
I'm not sure what to think and am not convinced that CO2 is the cause of global warming which is faster moving in Europe than it is here in Dunedin. But for many millions of years the CO2 level has been higher than it is now. Oxygen is another one, we need it. And it has been falling from 30% of atmosphere to about 19% for quite a while and continues to do so. That encourages hobbits and probably around 12% it encourages extinction. But it's hardly mentioned.
If the current state of 'the science' in other areas is anything to go by, the suppression of any 'contrary' voices in 'climate science' is being as vigorously practiced as it is in medicine and every other discipline. So we are only getting information from the 'allowable' side of the argument. All in the name of control by the looks of it. I know that there are those out there who say the CO2 is absolutely necessary and is helping 'green' the earth - and of course without it, we don't have any oxygen either, as plants turn CO2 into oxygen. I am tired of the culture of modern science - having to interfere with absolutely everything that might be able to right itself if Mother Nature was given half a chance to practice her normal 'cycle of life'.
It's probably this dropping oxygen level that has caused dinosaurs to become nearly extinct. I think there're only a few hundred theropods and sauropods left in the wild.
Actually we need to go further back to the middle ages and then we will be truly renewable. We can burn dung. Wait for the wind to blow to grind our grain. Use salt pools and evaporation to create salt for our fish and meat.
Except no fish or meat allowed. Do you think that just because we've regressed to the level of the middle ages that the Elites will let us eat meat again?
It can get worse. There were times in the "dark ages," during the plagues probably, when the people were forced to eat rats and cats. When those became scarce, they dug up the dead and ate them. Here is just one article I found with little trouble:
Have you noticed the physical infrastructure of most of America? It's far-flung, joined only by long stretches of asphalt and concrete. We can no more go back to such modes of transportation than we can go back to telegraphs for long-distance communications.
It would be much easier because the roads are already there and the wilderness is gone. For half a century the US made do with three main forms of communication: telegraph; telephone; and tell a woman.
For a few years I had the luck to live near one of the main bike commuting routes in Boston. Most of my commute followed a dedicated right-of way built on an abandoned rail line. Exercise, sunshine, and all that. Sounds great, BUT... If you think fighting car traffic is bad, just wait until you have to deal with the smug self-righteousness of blue-state bike commuters. I lost track of the times I was berated for driving "too fast" or "too aggressively". And then there were the constant additions of "innovative" new pedestrian lights and restrictions (to make everybody "safer" you know) like the ones that make you stand there and wait to use a cross-walk if you are on a bike but it's ok to walk on foot. And don't get me started about getting stuck in a "no passing zone" behind some hipster with too-loose jeans and a hairy ass crack.
You might find this funny... Our smallish town was elected to test out "bike wave safety rails" (yeah, I know wtf are those). They had signs asking people to go on line and complete a survey and contribute our thoughts.
I did. The survey site said they were on loan to our town September - April . In late October I decided to give my two cents. We are a town that gets "lake effect snow". I essentially said, "This is a solution looking for a problem and a possible liability issue" and pointed out the obvious snowplowing problems that will be very real. They were gone by the end of the week. No lie. I wonder if anyone else bothered to take the survey.
Cars and bikes don't work well together. I'm well aware of that. And when cycling is a minority transport option for sure it's hipsters and lycra. Not fond of either of them myself.
That's right. I rode a bike instead of a car for about 13 years from the late 80s to about 2001, when I got another car. For several weeks I felt really spaced out after I stopped riding the bike. But South Florida where I live has the highest pedestrian and bicycle fatality rate the country, I think. Bicycles will really only be safe once automobiles are eliminated. Of course, I have and have had a couple of nice sport sedans recently, so I really don't like the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine, let alone cars altogether, but we do need something for inclement weather--maybe covered tricycles or go back to horse-drawn carriages and covered wagons, unless horse droppings are incompatible with bicycles also.
Since animals are now walking around in circles... we can use that to power a generator. How many sheep walking in a circle do I need to charge my phone?
Animals walking in circles to power a generator so we can charge our computers and phones using 5G which is causing the animals to walk in circles. lol
Oh, and snow. And frigid weather. Even a mild day in April requires $$$ worth of gear to keep comfortable. We can bike about 4 months out of the year here in the midwest.
Obviously biking as a solution is nonsense. I tried commuting like that a few times. Ended up drenched in sweat or water each time. Not worth the bovver as they say in London. Scooter and waterproofs at minimum but even then... nothing compared to public transport.
Do you realize horses eat hay and grain, which requires large farming operations to produce. Your vision means world population dropping to a billion or so. Are you an advocate of genocide?
I read in the Swiss snow almanac that the power of avalanches can be harnessed to make electricity .All the slops must have power stations where avalanches will drive snow turbines .Switzerland has no drag queens ,alpine cows are doing a much better job .
All the slopes in Switzerland are covered in cow dung .Last time I climbed the Matterhorn I almost broke my neck when I stepped in a cow shit close to the summit and fell half way down the mountain .A St.Bernade dog saved my life with his barrel of schnapps on his neck ,just in time .
Oh! Bad news then. Unicorns are CO2 emissions monsters and will be strictly regulated. Rainbows are already out-of-stock in many places due to the supply chain problems.
The problem isn't so much the supply chain, but sourcing product. With the increasing popularity and legalization of marijuana, hippies have become more adept at finding the pot at the end of the rainbow and smoking it, which collapses the bow.
I thought they were going to feed us 1000 calories, and put us on a generating bike until we hit our daily quota of 10,000 KWh. Somehow, I feel there's weight loss program in our future.
This is clearly a planned crisis. Remember California being Enron-ed? Electrical generation plants were suddenly "taken off-line" forcing the CA grid operators to buy electricity from Arizona, & other states at highly inflated spot prices. Energy bills went through the roof, the manipulators made tons of money & the California consumers paid that high price & were never reimbursed for the overpriced energy. Whenever I see them talking about power plants taken off-line for "maintenance" I get suspicious now. Our CA energy crisis seemed to only be about $$. The European one seems likely to be really deadly. What is the goal here?
there's definitely insane mismanagement and all kinds of scams at work here, but the central difference with the CA case, is that there's literally no marked-up electricity to buy. we just won't have any.
Interesting. California is right now dismantling several dams in the northern part of the state under the argument that it's needed to save the native salmon fishery. At at time with skyrocketing electricity costs & droughts it seems suicidal for California to take away water storage & green emission-free electrical generation from our inventory. But it's being done. Here is a sympathetic story link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-klamath-dam-removal_n_6376ad77e4b0184e84e064a4
I applaud this. If you are going to go green, then go full insane green crazy. Electric cars only, no hydro plants, no nuclear power. It will be really, really bad for them and therefore, no one is going to look at California and say, "let's do that". If you are going to kill off this net zero craziness you need to drive a stake through its heart and to do that you need some entity to go all in and show people what they are in for.
I've read your post twice, and I think you're on to something. Yes! Let's go full-bore GREEN AGENDA!
However, here in New England, can we please wait until July? I'm already wearing wool socks, a shirt & heavy sweater, and I have two blankets & a quilt on my bed at night.
Rosie you forgot the hot water bottle . In my bed my wife warms her feet on my warm belly . Don't you have any warm bellies near by ? If I can be of help let me know ,but I'm not sure if I have room on my belly for more than two feet .
Alas, I live (and sleep) alone, finding myself residing in the bluest of blue regions. I long ago abandoned any hope of finding intelligent companionship--never mind WARM companionship.
In the US, you will not fall into the abyss of green morality, not even in New England.
Already the wallstreet boys are getting away from ESG and are starting to invest in fossile fuels again.
Remember that here in Germany, and also Austria, the Greens are actually the government, and rule the media and much of the deep state. Impossible to get them out.
In the USA the green agenda is set by mone-grubbing grifters, who will easily turn their colors if it is for their financial benefits. In Europe it is done by religious fanatics, who want to see humanity going extinct.
When the house is infested with termites, you hire an exterminator. If that doesn't work, you tear the house down and rebuild. Not a great option but sometimes necessary. It's not worth saving the house if it's likely to collapse on you and kill you.
I suddenly had this mental image of some pink-haired, nose-ringed "wokester" furiously pedaling a bicycle to generate enough electricity to continue playing "Minecraft."
After the Covid experience here in Western Europe, it seems to me our fellow citizens will endure all hardship and bodily harm if they are told it is for the greater good.
That seems to work in Western Europe, but in other parts of the world it may be 'Do it for the emperor!', 'Do it for the Party!' or 'Do it to piss your neighbours off!
Andreas you wrote Germany send all the left over weapons from the second world war to Ukraine ,but please don't send your last Knackwurst and Schnaps also to the Ukraine ,keep some for Christmas .
CC, you want several billion people die to make your point. the green new deal is a death cult and is of the same spirit as the c-nineteen vxx injections. they are both tools of depopulation.
GSM has begun according to Valentina Zharkova (PHD astrophysics amongst many other degrees) so the glaciers are coming folks. Only mass fossil fuels and nuclear will keep the lights and heating on and support lots of greenhouses for food production. Or migrate south.
She is right...and so is John Casey (cold Sun). He also predicted more earthquakes during solar minimums, and more volcano eruptions (check out Mauna Loa and the other volcano that just spewed today.).and why is no one mentioning the huge eruption in the Pacific near Fiji this summer?)
I thank God for people like these 2 who know we are being gaslit. I am so tired of this climate change crap being manmade.
There are a few scientists like Valentina and John speaking up but the MSM propagandists and various corrupt gubbermints give them no airtime. Yes, lower solar activity correlates to increased volcanic activity which in turn speeds up any cooling in the lower atmosphere - nothing to do with human activity. If this GSM is anything like 1645 - 1715 the northern hemisphere had better be prepared in terms of reliable energy and thus heating and food production. Otherwise, Africa , Australia and South America will have to be depended on and who knows how cold it might get on those continents anyway. I'm in eastern Australia and Brisbane just had its coldest winter on record and during the spring Sydney didn't break 30C once. The state of Victoria had flooding and cold weather for most of spring too, with snow still on the ski fields the day before summer. Summer has started here but it sure doesn't feel like it.
As soon as my nonagenarian father no longer needs my help, I'm heading south, too. My preference is Texas, with no state income tax and "open carry" allowed. I figure that as long as I'm armed, no one can touch my thermostat.
I'll install a pump-jack in my front yard and DARE anyone to object.
Or maybe, salmon dinners matter more for rich people than water and electricity for the rest of us.
By the way, I lived in Redding, CA for a couple of years, just a few miles downstream from the massive Shasta Dam. The state already has a ton of salmon hatcheries (to compensate for the dam). One wonders why they can't just hatch more salmon.
A few years ago, I had a conversation with my 25 year old step son about animals rights. He's a college graduate but was not particularly woke at the time. His view was that animals have rights just like people. I looked at him as if he was insane, and talked to him about man having dominion over animals and so on.
Thanks to people like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand, he's been completely red pilled and will occasionally join us at church.
That reminds me of a social media conversation I once tried to have with a former neighbor, who posted about the rights of cows. I told her that if we chose not to eat them (or use them for leather, etc.) they would still not have any rights -- that would just be our choice -- and asked her how many cows she thought would be around, and where, if they weren't being raised for human consumption. That was the end of the conversation...
i had the same convo with an x girlfriend.. she didnt like eating meat because of the poor cows etc..i said if they ban meat eating what are you going to do with your cow.. she said what do you mean.. well if cows arent used for meat they will kill them all, unless you want to raise some for pets.
It's not that salmon matter more than people. It's that fly fishing for salmon by the Elite on pristine rivers matters more than people. Well, at least it matters more than the deplorable peasants.
Inslee is trying to do the same in WA, despite the fact that the majority of our power is hydro in eastern WA and the salmon numbers are UP! We spent lots installing fish ladders which have clearly helped, and now he is wasting millions on studies on removing 4 dams on the lower Columbia. He'll keep "studying" until they tell him what he wants to hear.
Since hydro is probably the most efficient and steady green-ish energy, this craziness is clearly NOT about being green. So what is it really about? Are they trying to clear-out the west and get the population out of the way?
I don't think Inslee has the brain power to think it through. He is just a puppet of the WEF. He clearly has "How to Cheat Your Way to an Election Victory" figured out though.
In the article linked by ADM above, ocean conditions are cited as being important reasons there are fewer salmon. There's nothing definitive about that, but it seems worth including in the debate.
Fish ladders are incredibly expensive. Hatcheries seem like a more economical solution. There are a few in and around Redding, CA, home of the Shasta Dam.
That story is perfect. It perfectly encapsulates the irrational mentality of the environmental movement and the energy sector making money off their idiocy. Spending 500 million in order to destroy a century old ecological system and reduce energy production and water supply. All so that fish might possibly be able to swim up a stream in order for some indigenous people to eat them.
Aren't the Swiss going to use the extra power generated by rainbows and unicorns?
That is our plan out here in California next summer.
Wasn't it during the same week last summer when California declared that all cars sold in the state by 2030 had to be electric and then a few days later they asked people not to charge electric cars because of grid strain from the heat?
But yeah, let's give the state more and more power to control everything because they're doing such a bang-up job of it.
Why can't we all go back to bicycles, horses, and horse drawn carriages?
Sorry, horses generate too much methane...not allowed. LOL. It would take days to leave California on foot for most residents of the state. THAT is the point of the EV push....permanent confinement.
Now you have made a very astute observation. Bravo.Exactly. Without cars no one can leave their prisons..their pods, or their states.
People can leave the same way they got there--in covered wagons. I don't believe horses make as much methane as cows or other ruminants. I wonder how much methane the original 30 to 60 million bison created before the US Army's program to get rid of them.
Total agreement - people are cowed into believing that only high-tech options can get them out of a pickle. It's is so often the opposite - it just takes more 'human' energy instead of machine-energy - in other words we need to get physical in order to show we are not just puff-cakes. And the whole methane argument is full of hot air - that's not how nature actually works.
Try finding a horse and wagon to buy in your neighborhood, unless you live in an Amish community.
Of course, we would need to build the horse and wagon infrastructure. And let's not forget mules. And rickshaws.
I was reading a paper today on climate change about 54 million years ago. When the CO2 readings went from a low of 8-900 ppm which was the previous norm possibly all the way up to 6-7000 ppm.
Ours is about 415ppm right now. But the 280-415 bit over the last 50 years or so did happen faster than 54m years ago when such an increase might have taken 15000 years. 280ppm could maybe considered too low?
I'm not sure what to think and am not convinced that CO2 is the cause of global warming which is faster moving in Europe than it is here in Dunedin. But for many millions of years the CO2 level has been higher than it is now. Oxygen is another one, we need it. And it has been falling from 30% of atmosphere to about 19% for quite a while and continues to do so. That encourages hobbits and probably around 12% it encourages extinction. But it's hardly mentioned.
If the current state of 'the science' in other areas is anything to go by, the suppression of any 'contrary' voices in 'climate science' is being as vigorously practiced as it is in medicine and every other discipline. So we are only getting information from the 'allowable' side of the argument. All in the name of control by the looks of it. I know that there are those out there who say the CO2 is absolutely necessary and is helping 'green' the earth - and of course without it, we don't have any oxygen either, as plants turn CO2 into oxygen. I am tired of the culture of modern science - having to interfere with absolutely everything that might be able to right itself if Mother Nature was given half a chance to practice her normal 'cycle of life'.
It's probably this dropping oxygen level that has caused dinosaurs to become nearly extinct. I think there're only a few hundred theropods and sauropods left in the wild.
I think if we were to breathe 30% oxygen now, there would be a lot more emphysema as people got older.
Yea, the powers that be want to drive everyone into mega cities like in China.
Thats it. I’m leaving town. Thank you.
Actually we need to go further back to the middle ages and then we will be truly renewable. We can burn dung. Wait for the wind to blow to grind our grain. Use salt pools and evaporation to create salt for our fish and meat.
Except no fish or meat allowed. Do you think that just because we've regressed to the level of the middle ages that the Elites will let us eat meat again?
It can get worse. There were times in the "dark ages," during the plagues probably, when the people were forced to eat rats and cats. When those became scarce, they dug up the dead and ate them. Here is just one article I found with little trouble:
https://www.grunge.com/304607/the-messed-up-history-of-cannibalism-in-the-middle-ages/
Maybe this push to eat crickets is just a cover similar to Solyent Green being made from soybeans and lentils.
There will money to be made in cookbooks:
101 Rat recipes,
Kitty flavors you can savor,
Grandma: The other OTHER white meat.
And what would happen to our CBDC?? or QR codes? ;)
Poof! Aaaand it's gone!
Have you noticed the physical infrastructure of most of America? It's far-flung, joined only by long stretches of asphalt and concrete. We can no more go back to such modes of transportation than we can go back to telegraphs for long-distance communications.
It would be much easier because the roads are already there and the wilderness is gone. For half a century the US made do with three main forms of communication: telegraph; telephone; and tell a woman.
Bicycles are part of the plan. They love to share; read all about it: https://www.weforum.org/platforms/climate-action-platform
For a few years I had the luck to live near one of the main bike commuting routes in Boston. Most of my commute followed a dedicated right-of way built on an abandoned rail line. Exercise, sunshine, and all that. Sounds great, BUT... If you think fighting car traffic is bad, just wait until you have to deal with the smug self-righteousness of blue-state bike commuters. I lost track of the times I was berated for driving "too fast" or "too aggressively". And then there were the constant additions of "innovative" new pedestrian lights and restrictions (to make everybody "safer" you know) like the ones that make you stand there and wait to use a cross-walk if you are on a bike but it's ok to walk on foot. And don't get me started about getting stuck in a "no passing zone" behind some hipster with too-loose jeans and a hairy ass crack.
You might find this funny... Our smallish town was elected to test out "bike wave safety rails" (yeah, I know wtf are those). They had signs asking people to go on line and complete a survey and contribute our thoughts.
I did. The survey site said they were on loan to our town September - April . In late October I decided to give my two cents. We are a town that gets "lake effect snow". I essentially said, "This is a solution looking for a problem and a possible liability issue" and pointed out the obvious snowplowing problems that will be very real. They were gone by the end of the week. No lie. I wonder if anyone else bothered to take the survey.
Cars and bikes don't work well together. I'm well aware of that. And when cycling is a minority transport option for sure it's hipsters and lycra. Not fond of either of them myself.
That's right. I rode a bike instead of a car for about 13 years from the late 80s to about 2001, when I got another car. For several weeks I felt really spaced out after I stopped riding the bike. But South Florida where I live has the highest pedestrian and bicycle fatality rate the country, I think. Bicycles will really only be safe once automobiles are eliminated. Of course, I have and have had a couple of nice sport sedans recently, so I really don't like the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine, let alone cars altogether, but we do need something for inclement weather--maybe covered tricycles or go back to horse-drawn carriages and covered wagons, unless horse droppings are incompatible with bicycles also.
Bicycles should definitely be part of any plan. They're cheaper, keep you fit, make your brain work and are much more social than cars.
Since animals are now walking around in circles... we can use that to power a generator. How many sheep walking in a circle do I need to charge my phone?
Animals walking in circles to power a generator so we can charge our computers and phones using 5G which is causing the animals to walk in circles. lol
Progress!
AMEN!
Hills. A lot of places have small rolling hills that are much more difficult to ride than you'd think.
Oh, and snow. And frigid weather. Even a mild day in April requires $$$ worth of gear to keep comfortable. We can bike about 4 months out of the year here in the midwest.
Obviously biking as a solution is nonsense. I tried commuting like that a few times. Ended up drenched in sweat or water each time. Not worth the bovver as they say in London. Scooter and waterproofs at minimum but even then... nothing compared to public transport.
Only on the way up.
Do you realize horses eat hay and grain, which requires large farming operations to produce. Your vision means world population dropping to a billion or so. Are you an advocate of genocide?
Balderdash. We need more farming operations.
Yep, electric cars required not by election but by decree of the Air Resource Board. We are screwed here.
It would somehow be better or more moral if dictated by election? How about choice via the marketplace instead?
lYou can't possibly let these deplorables VOTE on important stuff like this, can you?
Us great unwashed have lost our representatives...they now work for corporations and for kickbacks.
Another ironic piece of news...and the damn idiots who beleive in man made climate change just go oh yup, no problem.
Yep!
These climate morons can't think 5 minutes beyond the present time.
Can they convert trans drag queens into sources of renewable energy somehow?
Hopefully (preferably) not renewable.
I read in the Swiss snow almanac that the power of avalanches can be harnessed to make electricity .All the slops must have power stations where avalanches will drive snow turbines .Switzerland has no drag queens ,alpine cows are doing a much better job .
A valid plan but how many do you suppose are actually drummers?
Excellent Idea! I hear they make wonderful woodchipper fuel.
What an inspiring thought!
Better that than the "jobs" they're currently doing. Get them to contribute for once.
We need songwriters for their shaft gangs... wait.. hmmm... lemme rephrase that...
All the slopes in Switzerland are covered in cow dung .Last time I climbed the Matterhorn I almost broke my neck when I stepped in a cow shit close to the summit and fell half way down the mountain .A St.Bernade dog saved my life with his barrel of schnapps on his neck ,just in time .
Cow dung can be burned for fuel but it must be dried. Tough thing to do in Switzerland. Maybe the snaps can be used as fuel.
And a very good plan it is too - antiracist, inclusive, and non-methane-emitting. I suppose unicorns don't fart.
I think trannies spend most of their time crying and farting and queefing. Can their tears and gas help with windmills?
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OMG that is a good one ! gotto remember that. Thanks Lost Californian ! Come on over to GA
Ah, yes, the rules here in Commiefornia under Gruesome Newsom! 😂😂🤬
Gruesome Newsom is Jaydolph Inslee's hero. He's trying to do the same in WA state. Sadly, he'll be successful at implementing these crap policies.
Yep! In America, everybody is horrified by what is happening to California except Jay Inslee, who's taking notes.
Exactly!
I am so sorry to hear that
Oh! Bad news then. Unicorns are CO2 emissions monsters and will be strictly regulated. Rainbows are already out-of-stock in many places due to the supply chain problems.
The problem isn't so much the supply chain, but sourcing product. With the increasing popularity and legalization of marijuana, hippies have become more adept at finding the pot at the end of the rainbow and smoking it, which collapses the bow.
and don't forget the climate change, which has made stock of rainbows super low !
There will be a push once shortages take place to open up the offshore methane development bypassing the enviromental resistance..
I thought they were going to feed us 1000 calories, and put us on a generating bike until we hit our daily quota of 10,000 KWh. Somehow, I feel there's weight loss program in our future.
This is clearly a planned crisis. Remember California being Enron-ed? Electrical generation plants were suddenly "taken off-line" forcing the CA grid operators to buy electricity from Arizona, & other states at highly inflated spot prices. Energy bills went through the roof, the manipulators made tons of money & the California consumers paid that high price & were never reimbursed for the overpriced energy. Whenever I see them talking about power plants taken off-line for "maintenance" I get suspicious now. Our CA energy crisis seemed to only be about $$. The European one seems likely to be really deadly. What is the goal here?
there's definitely insane mismanagement and all kinds of scams at work here, but the central difference with the CA case, is that there's literally no marked-up electricity to buy. we just won't have any.
Interesting. California is right now dismantling several dams in the northern part of the state under the argument that it's needed to save the native salmon fishery. At at time with skyrocketing electricity costs & droughts it seems suicidal for California to take away water storage & green emission-free electrical generation from our inventory. But it's being done. Here is a sympathetic story link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-klamath-dam-removal_n_6376ad77e4b0184e84e064a4
I applaud this. If you are going to go green, then go full insane green crazy. Electric cars only, no hydro plants, no nuclear power. It will be really, really bad for them and therefore, no one is going to look at California and say, "let's do that". If you are going to kill off this net zero craziness you need to drive a stake through its heart and to do that you need some entity to go all in and show people what they are in for.
I've read your post twice, and I think you're on to something. Yes! Let's go full-bore GREEN AGENDA!
However, here in New England, can we please wait until July? I'm already wearing wool socks, a shirt & heavy sweater, and I have two blankets & a quilt on my bed at night.
Rosie you forgot the hot water bottle . In my bed my wife warms her feet on my warm belly . Don't you have any warm bellies near by ? If I can be of help let me know ,but I'm not sure if I have room on my belly for more than two feet .
Alas, I live (and sleep) alone, finding myself residing in the bluest of blue regions. I long ago abandoned any hope of finding intelligent companionship--never mind WARM companionship.
Your wife is fortunate.
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In the US, you will not fall into the abyss of green morality, not even in New England.
Already the wallstreet boys are getting away from ESG and are starting to invest in fossile fuels again.
Remember that here in Germany, and also Austria, the Greens are actually the government, and rule the media and much of the deep state. Impossible to get them out.
In the USA the green agenda is set by mone-grubbing grifters, who will easily turn their colors if it is for their financial benefits. In Europe it is done by religious fanatics, who want to see humanity going extinct.
"Impossible to get them out"
When the house is infested with termites, you hire an exterminator. If that doesn't work, you tear the house down and rebuild. Not a great option but sometimes necessary. It's not worth saving the house if it's likely to collapse on you and kill you.
I suddenly had this mental image of some pink-haired, nose-ringed "wokester" furiously pedaling a bicycle to generate enough electricity to continue playing "Minecraft."
In 2019 I would agree with you.
After the Covid experience here in Western Europe, it seems to me our fellow citizens will endure all hardship and bodily harm if they are told it is for the greater good.
Oh Andreas, so true...and so damn depressing. We are living amongst Zombies.
That seems to work in Western Europe, but in other parts of the world it may be 'Do it for the emperor!', 'Do it for the Party!' or 'Do it to piss your neighbours off!
Andreas you wrote Germany send all the left over weapons from the second world war to Ukraine ,but please don't send your last Knackwurst and Schnaps also to the Ukraine ,keep some for Christmas .
Keeping the knackwurst, but it will be soy-based, of course.
Schnaps of course will stay: how else would we be able to keep warm, and drown our sorrows?
I heard in Russia in the 90ies, when they were really down as a society, everyone still had vodka as it was subsidized.
We will probably do the same here as well, in a few years.
Also, all dead batteries must be reprocessed/disposed of IN-STATE, e.g., no exporting the waste problem either.
CC, you want several billion people die to make your point. the green new deal is a death cult and is of the same spirit as the c-nineteen vxx injections. they are both tools of depopulation.
GSM has begun according to Valentina Zharkova (PHD astrophysics amongst many other degrees) so the glaciers are coming folks. Only mass fossil fuels and nuclear will keep the lights and heating on and support lots of greenhouses for food production. Or migrate south.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOMKLDbeYE&ab_channel=TomNelson
She is right...and so is John Casey (cold Sun). He also predicted more earthquakes during solar minimums, and more volcano eruptions (check out Mauna Loa and the other volcano that just spewed today.).and why is no one mentioning the huge eruption in the Pacific near Fiji this summer?)
I thank God for people like these 2 who know we are being gaslit. I am so tired of this climate change crap being manmade.
There are a few scientists like Valentina and John speaking up but the MSM propagandists and various corrupt gubbermints give them no airtime. Yes, lower solar activity correlates to increased volcanic activity which in turn speeds up any cooling in the lower atmosphere - nothing to do with human activity. If this GSM is anything like 1645 - 1715 the northern hemisphere had better be prepared in terms of reliable energy and thus heating and food production. Otherwise, Africa , Australia and South America will have to be depended on and who knows how cold it might get on those continents anyway. I'm in eastern Australia and Brisbane just had its coldest winter on record and during the spring Sydney didn't break 30C once. The state of Victoria had flooding and cold weather for most of spring too, with snow still on the ski fields the day before summer. Summer has started here but it sure doesn't feel like it.
I am trying to plan to migrate South.
As soon as my nonagenarian father no longer needs my help, I'm heading south, too. My preference is Texas, with no state income tax and "open carry" allowed. I figure that as long as I'm armed, no one can touch my thermostat.
I'll install a pump-jack in my front yard and DARE anyone to object.
Because salmon matter more than people.
Or maybe, salmon dinners matter more for rich people than water and electricity for the rest of us.
By the way, I lived in Redding, CA for a couple of years, just a few miles downstream from the massive Shasta Dam. The state already has a ton of salmon hatcheries (to compensate for the dam). One wonders why they can't just hatch more salmon.
A few years ago, I had a conversation with my 25 year old step son about animals rights. He's a college graduate but was not particularly woke at the time. His view was that animals have rights just like people. I looked at him as if he was insane, and talked to him about man having dominion over animals and so on.
Thanks to people like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand, he's been completely red pilled and will occasionally join us at church.
That reminds me of a social media conversation I once tried to have with a former neighbor, who posted about the rights of cows. I told her that if we chose not to eat them (or use them for leather, etc.) they would still not have any rights -- that would just be our choice -- and asked her how many cows she thought would be around, and where, if they weren't being raised for human consumption. That was the end of the conversation...
i had the same convo with an x girlfriend.. she didnt like eating meat because of the poor cows etc..i said if they ban meat eating what are you going to do with your cow.. she said what do you mean.. well if cows arent used for meat they will kill them all, unless you want to raise some for pets.
I will acknowledge the rights of wolves and bears, when wolves and bears acknowledge my rights.
It's not that salmon matter more than people. It's that fly fishing for salmon by the Elite on pristine rivers matters more than people. Well, at least it matters more than the deplorable peasants.
Inslee is trying to do the same in WA, despite the fact that the majority of our power is hydro in eastern WA and the salmon numbers are UP! We spent lots installing fish ladders which have clearly helped, and now he is wasting millions on studies on removing 4 dams on the lower Columbia. He'll keep "studying" until they tell him what he wants to hear.
Since hydro is probably the most efficient and steady green-ish energy, this craziness is clearly NOT about being green. So what is it really about? Are they trying to clear-out the west and get the population out of the way?
I don't think Inslee has the brain power to think it through. He is just a puppet of the WEF. He clearly has "How to Cheat Your Way to an Election Victory" figured out though.
Catherine Austin Fitts says there is a quota for each country.
If they didn't die from the covid Standard of care (none, until you needed vents and remdesivir), they still gotta cough up more.
So since no one is going for boosters, they need to freeze or starve us out.
They may keep the more obedient ones among us.
So think most people. Remember, the nail that sticks up....
But I would like Eugypiuss to see if this is really true?
In the article linked by ADM above, ocean conditions are cited as being important reasons there are fewer salmon. There's nothing definitive about that, but it seems worth including in the debate.
Fish ladders are incredibly expensive. Hatcheries seem like a more economical solution. There are a few in and around Redding, CA, home of the Shasta Dam.
Cheers!
I loved going to Bonneville and watching the fish ladders when I was little :)
Edit: A picture!
https://boelah.blogspot.com/2017/09/fish-ladder-bonneville-fish-ladder.html
That story is perfect. It perfectly encapsulates the irrational mentality of the environmental movement and the energy sector making money off their idiocy. Spending 500 million in order to destroy a century old ecological system and reduce energy production and water supply. All so that fish might possibly be able to swim up a stream in order for some indigenous people to eat them.
another white-man-bad-scheme takes hold. these eugenicists will not be happy til mankind dies.