Wasn't it during the same week last summer when California declared that all cars sold in the state by 2030 had to be electric and then a few days later they asked people not to charge electric cars because of grid strain from the heat?
But yeah, let's give the state more and more power to control everything because they're doing such a bang-up job of it.
Sorry, horses generate too much methane...not allowed. LOL. It would take days to leave California on foot for most residents of the state. THAT is the point of the EV push....permanent confinement.
People can leave the same way they got there--in covered wagons. I don't believe horses make as much methane as cows or other ruminants. I wonder how much methane the original 30 to 60 million bison created before the US Army's program to get rid of them.
Total agreement - people are cowed into believing that only high-tech options can get them out of a pickle. It's is so often the opposite - it just takes more 'human' energy instead of machine-energy - in other words we need to get physical in order to show we are not just puff-cakes. And the whole methane argument is full of hot air - that's not how nature actually works.
I was reading a paper today on climate change about 54 million years ago. When the CO2 readings went from a low of 8-900 ppm which was the previous norm possibly all the way up to 6-7000 ppm.
Ours is about 415ppm right now. But the 280-415 bit over the last 50 years or so did happen faster than 54m years ago when such an increase might have taken 15000 years. 280ppm could maybe considered too low?
I'm not sure what to think and am not convinced that CO2 is the cause of global warming which is faster moving in Europe than it is here in Dunedin. But for many millions of years the CO2 level has been higher than it is now. Oxygen is another one, we need it. And it has been falling from 30% of atmosphere to about 19% for quite a while and continues to do so. That encourages hobbits and probably around 12% it encourages extinction. But it's hardly mentioned.
If the current state of 'the science' in other areas is anything to go by, the suppression of any 'contrary' voices in 'climate science' is being as vigorously practiced as it is in medicine and every other discipline. So we are only getting information from the 'allowable' side of the argument. All in the name of control by the looks of it. I know that there are those out there who say the CO2 is absolutely necessary and is helping 'green' the earth - and of course without it, we don't have any oxygen either, as plants turn CO2 into oxygen. I am tired of the culture of modern science - having to interfere with absolutely everything that might be able to right itself if Mother Nature was given half a chance to practice her normal 'cycle of life'.
It's probably this dropping oxygen level that has caused dinosaurs to become nearly extinct. I think there're only a few hundred theropods and sauropods left in the wild.
Actually we need to go further back to the middle ages and then we will be truly renewable. We can burn dung. Wait for the wind to blow to grind our grain. Use salt pools and evaporation to create salt for our fish and meat.
Except no fish or meat allowed. Do you think that just because we've regressed to the level of the middle ages that the Elites will let us eat meat again?
It can get worse. There were times in the "dark ages," during the plagues probably, when the people were forced to eat rats and cats. When those became scarce, they dug up the dead and ate them. Here is just one article I found with little trouble:
Have you noticed the physical infrastructure of most of America? It's far-flung, joined only by long stretches of asphalt and concrete. We can no more go back to such modes of transportation than we can go back to telegraphs for long-distance communications.
It would be much easier because the roads are already there and the wilderness is gone. For half a century the US made do with three main forms of communication: telegraph; telephone; and tell a woman.
For a few years I had the luck to live near one of the main bike commuting routes in Boston. Most of my commute followed a dedicated right-of way built on an abandoned rail line. Exercise, sunshine, and all that. Sounds great, BUT... If you think fighting car traffic is bad, just wait until you have to deal with the smug self-righteousness of blue-state bike commuters. I lost track of the times I was berated for driving "too fast" or "too aggressively". And then there were the constant additions of "innovative" new pedestrian lights and restrictions (to make everybody "safer" you know) like the ones that make you stand there and wait to use a cross-walk if you are on a bike but it's ok to walk on foot. And don't get me started about getting stuck in a "no passing zone" behind some hipster with too-loose jeans and a hairy ass crack.
You might find this funny... Our smallish town was elected to test out "bike wave safety rails" (yeah, I know wtf are those). They had signs asking people to go on line and complete a survey and contribute our thoughts.
I did. The survey site said they were on loan to our town September - April . In late October I decided to give my two cents. We are a town that gets "lake effect snow". I essentially said, "This is a solution looking for a problem and a possible liability issue" and pointed out the obvious snowplowing problems that will be very real. They were gone by the end of the week. No lie. I wonder if anyone else bothered to take the survey.
Cars and bikes don't work well together. I'm well aware of that. And when cycling is a minority transport option for sure it's hipsters and lycra. Not fond of either of them myself.
That's right. I rode a bike instead of a car for about 13 years from the late 80s to about 2001, when I got another car. For several weeks I felt really spaced out after I stopped riding the bike. But South Florida where I live has the highest pedestrian and bicycle fatality rate the country, I think. Bicycles will really only be safe once automobiles are eliminated. Of course, I have and have had a couple of nice sport sedans recently, so I really don't like the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine, let alone cars altogether, but we do need something for inclement weather--maybe covered tricycles or go back to horse-drawn carriages and covered wagons, unless horse droppings are incompatible with bicycles also.
Since animals are now walking around in circles... we can use that to power a generator. How many sheep walking in a circle do I need to charge my phone?
Animals walking in circles to power a generator so we can charge our computers and phones using 5G which is causing the animals to walk in circles. lol
Oh, and snow. And frigid weather. Even a mild day in April requires $$$ worth of gear to keep comfortable. We can bike about 4 months out of the year here in the midwest.
Obviously biking as a solution is nonsense. I tried commuting like that a few times. Ended up drenched in sweat or water each time. Not worth the bovver as they say in London. Scooter and waterproofs at minimum but even then... nothing compared to public transport.
Do you realize horses eat hay and grain, which requires large farming operations to produce. Your vision means world population dropping to a billion or so. Are you an advocate of genocide?
I read in the Swiss snow almanac that the power of avalanches can be harnessed to make electricity .All the slops must have power stations where avalanches will drive snow turbines .Switzerland has no drag queens ,alpine cows are doing a much better job .
All the slopes in Switzerland are covered in cow dung .Last time I climbed the Matterhorn I almost broke my neck when I stepped in a cow shit close to the summit and fell half way down the mountain .A St.Bernade dog saved my life with his barrel of schnapps on his neck ,just in time .
Oh! Bad news then. Unicorns are CO2 emissions monsters and will be strictly regulated. Rainbows are already out-of-stock in many places due to the supply chain problems.
The problem isn't so much the supply chain, but sourcing product. With the increasing popularity and legalization of marijuana, hippies have become more adept at finding the pot at the end of the rainbow and smoking it, which collapses the bow.
I thought they were going to feed us 1000 calories, and put us on a generating bike until we hit our daily quota of 10,000 KWh. Somehow, I feel there's weight loss program in our future.
This is clearly a planned crisis. Remember California being Enron-ed? Electrical generation plants were suddenly "taken off-line" forcing the CA grid operators to buy electricity from Arizona, & other states at highly inflated spot prices. Energy bills went through the roof, the manipulators made tons of money & the California consumers paid that high price & were never reimbursed for the overpriced energy. Whenever I see them talking about power plants taken off-line for "maintenance" I get suspicious now. Our CA energy crisis seemed to only be about $$. The European one seems likely to be really deadly. What is the goal here?
there's definitely insane mismanagement and all kinds of scams at work here, but the central difference with the CA case, is that there's literally no marked-up electricity to buy. we just won't have any.
Interesting. California is right now dismantling several dams in the northern part of the state under the argument that it's needed to save the native salmon fishery. At at time with skyrocketing electricity costs & droughts it seems suicidal for California to take away water storage & green emission-free electrical generation from our inventory. But it's being done. Here is a sympathetic story link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-klamath-dam-removal_n_6376ad77e4b0184e84e064a4
I applaud this. If you are going to go green, then go full insane green crazy. Electric cars only, no hydro plants, no nuclear power. It will be really, really bad for them and therefore, no one is going to look at California and say, "let's do that". If you are going to kill off this net zero craziness you need to drive a stake through its heart and to do that you need some entity to go all in and show people what they are in for.
I've read your post twice, and I think you're on to something. Yes! Let's go full-bore GREEN AGENDA!
However, here in New England, can we please wait until July? I'm already wearing wool socks, a shirt & heavy sweater, and I have two blankets & a quilt on my bed at night.
Rosie you forgot the hot water bottle . In my bed my wife warms her feet on my warm belly . Don't you have any warm bellies near by ? If I can be of help let me know ,but I'm not sure if I have room on my belly for more than two feet .
Alas, I live (and sleep) alone, finding myself residing in the bluest of blue regions. I long ago abandoned any hope of finding intelligent companionship--never mind WARM companionship.
In the US, you will not fall into the abyss of green morality, not even in New England.
Already the wallstreet boys are getting away from ESG and are starting to invest in fossile fuels again.
Remember that here in Germany, and also Austria, the Greens are actually the government, and rule the media and much of the deep state. Impossible to get them out.
In the USA the green agenda is set by mone-grubbing grifters, who will easily turn their colors if it is for their financial benefits. In Europe it is done by religious fanatics, who want to see humanity going extinct.
When the house is infested with termites, you hire an exterminator. If that doesn't work, you tear the house down and rebuild. Not a great option but sometimes necessary. It's not worth saving the house if it's likely to collapse on you and kill you.
I suddenly had this mental image of some pink-haired, nose-ringed "wokester" furiously pedaling a bicycle to generate enough electricity to continue playing "Minecraft."
After the Covid experience here in Western Europe, it seems to me our fellow citizens will endure all hardship and bodily harm if they are told it is for the greater good.
That seems to work in Western Europe, but in other parts of the world it may be 'Do it for the emperor!', 'Do it for the Party!' or 'Do it to piss your neighbours off!
Andreas you wrote Germany send all the left over weapons from the second world war to Ukraine ,but please don't send your last Knackwurst and Schnaps also to the Ukraine ,keep some for Christmas .
CC, you want several billion people die to make your point. the green new deal is a death cult and is of the same spirit as the c-nineteen vxx injections. they are both tools of depopulation.
GSM has begun according to Valentina Zharkova (PHD astrophysics amongst many other degrees) so the glaciers are coming folks. Only mass fossil fuels and nuclear will keep the lights and heating on and support lots of greenhouses for food production. Or migrate south.
She is right...and so is John Casey (cold Sun). He also predicted more earthquakes during solar minimums, and more volcano eruptions (check out Mauna Loa and the other volcano that just spewed today.).and why is no one mentioning the huge eruption in the Pacific near Fiji this summer?)
I thank God for people like these 2 who know we are being gaslit. I am so tired of this climate change crap being manmade.
There are a few scientists like Valentina and John speaking up but the MSM propagandists and various corrupt gubbermints give them no airtime. Yes, lower solar activity correlates to increased volcanic activity which in turn speeds up any cooling in the lower atmosphere - nothing to do with human activity. If this GSM is anything like 1645 - 1715 the northern hemisphere had better be prepared in terms of reliable energy and thus heating and food production. Otherwise, Africa , Australia and South America will have to be depended on and who knows how cold it might get on those continents anyway. I'm in eastern Australia and Brisbane just had its coldest winter on record and during the spring Sydney didn't break 30C once. The state of Victoria had flooding and cold weather for most of spring too, with snow still on the ski fields the day before summer. Summer has started here but it sure doesn't feel like it.
As soon as my nonagenarian father no longer needs my help, I'm heading south, too. My preference is Texas, with no state income tax and "open carry" allowed. I figure that as long as I'm armed, no one can touch my thermostat.
I'll install a pump-jack in my front yard and DARE anyone to object.
Or maybe, salmon dinners matter more for rich people than water and electricity for the rest of us.
By the way, I lived in Redding, CA for a couple of years, just a few miles downstream from the massive Shasta Dam. The state already has a ton of salmon hatcheries (to compensate for the dam). One wonders why they can't just hatch more salmon.
A few years ago, I had a conversation with my 25 year old step son about animals rights. He's a college graduate but was not particularly woke at the time. His view was that animals have rights just like people. I looked at him as if he was insane, and talked to him about man having dominion over animals and so on.
Thanks to people like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand, he's been completely red pilled and will occasionally join us at church.
That reminds me of a social media conversation I once tried to have with a former neighbor, who posted about the rights of cows. I told her that if we chose not to eat them (or use them for leather, etc.) they would still not have any rights -- that would just be our choice -- and asked her how many cows she thought would be around, and where, if they weren't being raised for human consumption. That was the end of the conversation...
i had the same convo with an x girlfriend.. she didnt like eating meat because of the poor cows etc..i said if they ban meat eating what are you going to do with your cow.. she said what do you mean.. well if cows arent used for meat they will kill them all, unless you want to raise some for pets.
It's not that salmon matter more than people. It's that fly fishing for salmon by the Elite on pristine rivers matters more than people. Well, at least it matters more than the deplorable peasants.
Inslee is trying to do the same in WA, despite the fact that the majority of our power is hydro in eastern WA and the salmon numbers are UP! We spent lots installing fish ladders which have clearly helped, and now he is wasting millions on studies on removing 4 dams on the lower Columbia. He'll keep "studying" until they tell him what he wants to hear.
Since hydro is probably the most efficient and steady green-ish energy, this craziness is clearly NOT about being green. So what is it really about? Are they trying to clear-out the west and get the population out of the way?
I don't think Inslee has the brain power to think it through. He is just a puppet of the WEF. He clearly has "How to Cheat Your Way to an Election Victory" figured out though.
In the article linked by ADM above, ocean conditions are cited as being important reasons there are fewer salmon. There's nothing definitive about that, but it seems worth including in the debate.
Fish ladders are incredibly expensive. Hatcheries seem like a more economical solution. There are a few in and around Redding, CA, home of the Shasta Dam.
That story is perfect. It perfectly encapsulates the irrational mentality of the environmental movement and the energy sector making money off their idiocy. Spending 500 million in order to destroy a century old ecological system and reduce energy production and water supply. All so that fish might possibly be able to swim up a stream in order for some indigenous people to eat them.
"What is left of your dream? Just the words on your stone.
A man who learned how to teach, and forgot how to learn.
Oh yeah."
-- Queen, "White Man" [One of Queen's lesser known songs, it's actually a well-done fictional narrative by a Native American, albeit done by play-acting English musicians.]
TRUMP was beginning to protect us from corporate greed and arrogant govt's around the world, he actually took gas prices down b/c he truly understood the woke corporations over-reaching from the BS Obama/Brandon era. He brought corps and other countries back in check. But MSM and the 50% of the public of squawking Karens and corrupt policiticans caught in their deceit would not give the guy a chance. And here we are essentially under china rule with fauxci at the helm and worthless obama behind the scenes ruining everything and corrupting every industry especially insurance and medical. Obamacare was the single most destructive thing that could have happened in our lifetime. The ppl who screamed and clamored for obamacare are getting their due, they're pawns of a govt institution that will kill them slowly like a frog in a pot. Go get some more jabs ppl, you're not dying quick enough! When you have to be coerced and bribed with donuts and groceries and gift cards and well meaning friends shouting 'the jabs are free', then you know that you are an idiot....that is, if you took the bait.
And I was a loyal trump supporter because of what he DID, not what he said.
He DID the things that made the blob and the globalists ensure that by Covid (whether released in 2019 or hyped up in 2020 ) they could rig the election of 2020...and they will rig every election from now on. Whatever you think of Trump, he was the last thing standing between us and the Globabllists who want us ALL dead.
We are no longer a Constitutional Republic...and the sooner people realize we have been hollowed out for YEARS, and revolt, we will go down in history as a failed experiment.
Planned in that we are running out of affordable energy and orchestrated a 'war' in Ukraine to provide an alt explanation as to why energy prices are through the roof.
The 'war' creates the impression that this is a temporary situation - and the herd doesn't panic because we are not running out of cheap energy - it's the war.
LOL We are choosing to run out of energy. Literally facilitating it by fomenting war. Ending construction of pipelines, blowing up pipelines. JC you Malthusian Peak Oil dipsticks are dumb.
Why would you not agree to performing maintenance on nuclear plants that are past due for maintenance? In any case, Swiss reliance on power imports (similar to California) only casts them as a “victim” instead of being responsible for their own resource needs.
I don't know about "planned," but I would surely (partially) agree that advocating EVs and so-called "green" energy were own-goals, if not planned, then certainly the evidence of a failure to plan for likely contingency. They could have seen that coming for years, since it's not as though EVs and windmills magically appeared overnight. The reduction/cut-off of Russian gas/energy is easier laid to uncertainty. Yes, from this American's view, the EU's loss of this critical energy resource is mostly an own-goal too, never the less.
Wow, unbelievable the lengths we go to to support corrupt Ukraine. All self inflicted and easily fixable but dumb ignorant politicians prefer to destroy the west.
Besides no way to enforce most of it. Seems desperate times are here if we have to ban the use of bluray players.
Europe slowly working its way to become a second world country, on a positive side might stop the endless invasion, i mean immigration.
I also suspect that a lot of s*x trafficking and pedophili@ happens in Ukraine that benefits the west. So yeah, slava Ukraine, keep the $$$$$ flowing endlessly.
You'll live in a van down by the river, but Voldemort Zelensky will live like a god and demand even more.
And we have destroyed our standing army...we've slow killed most of them with the "vaxxine" and we are ready for China to land its airplanes in the north and south on those ranches the chinse bought and put runways in....there will be no reisitance.
First, keep in mind that Europe is an American colony. Things that don't make sense if you assume that Europe is free to make decisions for itself suddenly make sense if you assume that the D.C. overlords are pulling the strings and calling the shots.
Second, some of these measures are more enforceable than others. The electric cars thing should be fairly easy to enforce. Just shut down those what-do-you-call-them places where they get recharged.
This is backwards. American elites want to be Europeans so much they can't stand that we have a completely different system of government and don't have to follow European laws. The love the EU and wish we had to do what the EU says (and, of course, that we were part of ruling it). Other than You-know-who, our presidents have been trying to make us be exactly like Europe for decades, Obama most of all
Oh, they want European laws? Such as the ones that say you can't have an abortion on request after 12 weeks of pregnancy?
Some parts of America's elite like what they imagine Europe to be, not necessarily what it actually is. Those "some parts" do not include the Deep State, which is what I'm talking about.
If you will send all the, er, "recent arrivals" back to their native lands, and guarantee the right to drink beer in public and for young women to sunbathe unclothed in city parks, I suspect many Americans would turn in their guns and pickup trucks. 😛
North America has much the same problem. Alas things would have to get rather worse here before it would be worse than what the average third worlder grew up in.
"The time for petty politics is past; the next century will bring the struggle for the dominion of the world—the COMPULSION to great politics. " -- Nietzsche "Beyond Good and Evil" (section 208, commenting on a fractured, democracy-obsessed Europe vs. a potentially powerful Russia. Heck, it doesn't sound all that different a century and a half later.)
Yep. If I recall correctly, through a chastisement of sorts. It's been a while. Our Lady gave simple (not easy) instructions to offset the coming errors of Russia. "Consecrate Russia to My (her) Immaculate Heart, the Pope was to have ALL bishops around the world join him." This was to be done by, 1960(?). The pope did not do it. He half-assed it. Then Pope John Paul II tried it again but didn't say "Russia" specifically but included the whole world.
Just like my dumb sons - try to do "work arounds" - and now they are living in the messes they created by not taking me seriously. Gosh, I wonder if the Blessed Virgin Mary has the same attitude about her princes as I do my sons...
So Russia is fighting corporate greed by... invading another country? Ukraine is no bastion of integrity, but this makes no sense. Invasion and resistance do not go together.
Russian did not invade...we PROVOKED them. They had no choice. You speak like the Donbas etc. was part of Ukraine...go back and read recent and old history.
Well, that's an interesting take. While the people I know and follow have a variety of ideas on this issue, that is NOT one. That's why I really appreciate this forum, I hear lots of things and opinions (probably prevalent in other countries) I don't hear anywhere else.
My go-to quote [allegedly] by Putin is "I will not live in a world without Russia, and neither will anyone else." Whether or not it's authentic, it surely captures a very succinct idea. And it's worth mentioning that this "quote" predates the 2022 conflict.
The world imagines Germany with an army of clipboard-wielding bureaucrats demanding entry to homes in dawn raids to check fridge temperatures and Amazon fire sticks.
What the world doesn't know is that Germany isn't remotely capable of organising something like that.
Sadly, Germany is. They had a day against "hatred and agitation", sending police to conduct about 80 raids. They targeted people they deemed guilty of "hatred and agitation on the internet".
Do you want to know how the German minister of the interior, one Nancy Faeser, defines hatred? She says it's something that results in strong negative emotions and feelings of hurt. And it's an offense police may kick your door in. for
Smart meters, smar tvs, internet enabled fridges and freezers (the Internet of things) linked to amazon Nest type device or just wifi would be the cheapest surveillance tool. Want your heating at 22 deg C? Nope, the State will set your wifi thermostat at 19.
Yep, the idea would be to disconnect as much as possible from these tech solutions. If at all possible - won't be possible for those living in rental appartments in cities, I think.
And you can't burn a wood fire in your fireplace since October 2018 in Montreal unless the fireplace or wood stove is "certified to emit no more than 2.5 grams of fine particles per hour". Interesting policy in a province where the temp falls to -13 Fahrenheit. In Canada, you can't endanger your lungs with wood fire particulates--it's for your own good--but if you want to kill yourself in other ways, the government is ready to help!
We, the French people, do not thank Adolf Macaron for neglecting our nuclear power plants!
We were totally self sufficient in energy but since this psychopath’s aim is to destroy our country here we are, facing restrictions because this asshole is exporting energy that we don’t have to the UK, Germany and God knows where else.
As for the EV owners, put your red noses on and smile!
Strikes are the better option since Adolf Macaron has bought new armoured vehicles and powerful guns so the police can “fight peaceful protesters”.
Make no mistake, those assholes attacking the Arc de Triomphe, lighting fires and destroying shops in Paris weren’t Yellow Vests. They were antifas/black blocks hired by the government to make the people believe that the movement was violent and to justify the violent and disproportionate response of the Parisian police.
Some are obvious feds judging by how professional they behave and look even when hiding in black bloc. But for the average antifa, I wonder if they have any awareness to realize they are the exact opposite of their marketed identity. Fascist goons terrorizing people on behalf of oligarchs.
Kind of like our FBI participating in the "kidnapping" plot of the Michigan governor and January 6th.
I was recently in Nice, France. First week there, the busses going to the outlying areas were on strike for one day. The following week, the local busses and trams were on strike for one day.
I have admired the yellow vests since they started.
France and la liberte.
I hope they are able to throw off the yolk...because the US is already hollowed out and the worst country on earty..the Great Satan...and most of us here do not realize what has been done in our name.
Old guns, like antiques, yes. But since the government doesn’t know who has them it is the people who are volunteering and asking for someone come and collect them.
If I had one I wouldn’t. No way! Unless it could be dangerous to use it because it could blow on my face.
Only people who hunt or practice shooting as a sport can have guns here and it is not easy to get the license. It’s been like this for decades.
During World War 1, there was a huge loss of life on both sides. It is written that a whole generation of young men were lost on the battlefield. And those that survived suffered horrific injuries. Either from "going over the top" of the trenches or from poison mustard gas. I remember reading about the "men with the broken faces." Soldiers who had such horrible facial damage because that was the first part exposed when going over the top of the trenches. These men were usually hidden away in military hospitals.
World War 1 ended in 1918, and World War 2 technically started in 1939 with the invasion of Poland.
Who could fault a country that bore the scars of such bloodshed only 21 years earlier?
Those of us in the US have been spoiled, because except for Pearl Harbor, there was no damage to the infrastructure of our country during World War 2. We need to consider the mindset of huge loss of life and damage to the countries in Europe.
Reducing the definition on streaming services, banning DVD players, that’ll do it - climate emergency averted... Planet saved... we shall have honey for tea. Barking mad.
I have family in Switzerland. I believe my poor second cousin (in her 70's) could turn into ice, and my brother, who also lives there, would somehow find an exuse to explain why whatever measures the government take were necessary.
YES! and the idiots who want open borders need to get robbed and acosted by some illegal thugs to shut their idiocy up. We have legal avenues for ppl to come into our country as well as others, enough of this LAWLESSNESS YOU LIBERAL IDIOTS.
"Post-Fukushima German energy policy made no sense from the get go: building renewables with a questionable EROI is one bold step, but in order to back them up, in case the wind doesn’t blow or the Sun doesn’t shine, you need an alternative solution, and natural gas power plants were and are the only available one: so every installed kilowatt of renewable power had to be backed by a kilowatt of natural gas. That’s as prehistoric as carbon can get, it’s some old dinosaur shit you’re pumping into the atmosphere, yet it was lawyered into being grün. It also made Putin increasingly richer and more powerful, the greener Germany got.
But it was fine, for a decade or so, because there was peace and prosperity. Enough wealth was around to waste that this decadent decision did not seem to strangle Germany. It made energy more expensive, the most expensive at times, but that’s the price of adults giving in to the crayon-drawn dreams of children."
With NS2 blown up:
"Even if Putin croaks tomorrow and the Russians, once they’ve put down their weapons, disarmed their nuclear arsenal and signed off on punishing reparations, beg us to give them rotten carrots in exchange for natural gas, der stoff won’t be able to flow like the old times, nein. Old times, for the industrial powerhouse of Europe, are physically kaput."
"While Scholz’s pragmatism seems to rule for now, the Greens, as always, are a bunch of angry children (with arts degrees) who are denied to go wild with their crayons due to the circumstances of our times, but they are ever ready."
Funnily enough, oil and oil products are much easier to ship into Europe, especially to landlocked countries like Switzerland. So an ICE car will run long after the Swiss stopped watching Blu-rays.
NatGas turbines are pretty much the only conventional source that's responsive (can be throttled up or down quickly) enough to match the unpredictably variable nature of wind and solar. Nuclear and coal are too slow to be able to do that. And Natgas is the "greenest" hydrocarbon.
While alcohol is not strictly a hydrocarbon, it can be made from all sorts of stuff, potatoes. If it was good for the V2 as rocket fuel, it might be the solution to Europe's problems.
Wood gas generators, another well-tested WW2 tech might get a comeback, all you need is a trailer to hitch it to your car. Carbon-monoxide alarm optional.
You can find peat in bogs, very renewable. The political elite can also be stashed in there. It preserves them well, so you can show it to future generations what sort of lunatics we gave the power over to.
[Based on various books and articles I've read...] Ethanol (alcohol) is in fact a relatively clean burning and practical fuel. Problem: it usually (but not necessarily always) is energy-negative, that is, it costs more to make a unit of alcohol energy than you recoup by burning it. Funny, not being economically viable seems a recurring theme with nearly all so-called "green" or "renewable" energy forms. Now why could that be?
At the end of w.w. II and shortly after wood gas was used by cars and trucks .In cars a round hole was cut in the trunk of the car to fit the wood Vergaser in .In trucks the Vergaser as it was called was fitted outside the passenger side of the truck .Small chunks of hard wood was used as fuel .
unclear to me how much these bans are symbolic and how much they're based on actual statistics about power usage. my understanding is that water heaters, heavy appliances (like washing machines) and lighting are the major users of home electricity, but i could be wrong.
It’s just like Covid where they ban the “fun” stuff as if waiting in line for Covid tests was actually in any way less dangerous than waiting in line for a roller coaster.
Indoor lighting with LED bulbs is not terribly significant. Electric water heaters, clothes dryers, heat pumps, air conditioners, and electric stoves in the kitchen are the biggest loads. Unless of course you're trying to charge an electric car...
Here in the US, the people that want everyone to drive an electric car are the same people that don’t want new powerlines, pipelines or power plants built. It must be nice living in fantasy land.
A few years ago, our ranch was burned in one of the now famous California timber wildfires. Our privately owned power poles were burned and replacing them with a large solar system made sense for financial and other reasons. We are looking at an electric truck because it would allow us to store energy when the sun is shining...because, God knows, it doesn’t always shine. It makes sense for us. Honestly, it doesn’t make any sense for most. An electric car takes the same amount of energy, pound for pound, that any car with any propulsion system takes (assuming similar aerodynamics and rolling resistance. Electric cars are just another way to control people. They can be turned off remotely. They can be made to drive where you don’t want to go. They report all that they do to the web lords.
Agreed. Gasoline autonomous vehicles, should they ever exist, will be able to be remotely driven where you don’t want to go. But, as long as the gasoline infrastructure remains in use. “Automotive freedom” by use of the many older cars, will be a possibility. Maybe a taste of Mad Max - lol.
It's wind mills or nothing .Powerful fans can be installed behind every windmill to drive it when the wind is not blowing . The fans are powered by other wind mills ,it makes perfect sense .
Not really because the masses aren't going to be able to afford the power to drive EVs. The nomenclatura, however...must be nice to dig cobalt knowing some German green can zoom around the countryside because of your work.
It proves that the "elites" do not care about the people of Africa. Those child miners are viewed as disposable. Kind of like the forced labor in Nazi occupied countries.
And, when the 1st world has food insecurity, the 3rd world starves.
Yes, shooting itself in the metaphorical left and the right foot, followed by shooting itself into both hands does that to a country. Utterly self-inflicted.
How good is public transportation in Switzerland? I've never been there, so I don't know. I live in Prague, and it's pretty good. I don't have a car. I can get anywhere I need to go by public transportation.
Okay, so in that case, depriving people of cars is not akin to imposing lockdown. Some people may be annoyed, but it's not like being unable to get anywhere.
Aren't the Swiss going to use the extra power generated by rainbows and unicorns?
That is our plan out here in California next summer.
Wasn't it during the same week last summer when California declared that all cars sold in the state by 2030 had to be electric and then a few days later they asked people not to charge electric cars because of grid strain from the heat?
But yeah, let's give the state more and more power to control everything because they're doing such a bang-up job of it.
Why can't we all go back to bicycles, horses, and horse drawn carriages?
Sorry, horses generate too much methane...not allowed. LOL. It would take days to leave California on foot for most residents of the state. THAT is the point of the EV push....permanent confinement.
Now you have made a very astute observation. Bravo.Exactly. Without cars no one can leave their prisons..their pods, or their states.
People can leave the same way they got there--in covered wagons. I don't believe horses make as much methane as cows or other ruminants. I wonder how much methane the original 30 to 60 million bison created before the US Army's program to get rid of them.
Total agreement - people are cowed into believing that only high-tech options can get them out of a pickle. It's is so often the opposite - it just takes more 'human' energy instead of machine-energy - in other words we need to get physical in order to show we are not just puff-cakes. And the whole methane argument is full of hot air - that's not how nature actually works.
Try finding a horse and wagon to buy in your neighborhood, unless you live in an Amish community.
Of course, we would need to build the horse and wagon infrastructure. And let's not forget mules. And rickshaws.
I was reading a paper today on climate change about 54 million years ago. When the CO2 readings went from a low of 8-900 ppm which was the previous norm possibly all the way up to 6-7000 ppm.
Ours is about 415ppm right now. But the 280-415 bit over the last 50 years or so did happen faster than 54m years ago when such an increase might have taken 15000 years. 280ppm could maybe considered too low?
I'm not sure what to think and am not convinced that CO2 is the cause of global warming which is faster moving in Europe than it is here in Dunedin. But for many millions of years the CO2 level has been higher than it is now. Oxygen is another one, we need it. And it has been falling from 30% of atmosphere to about 19% for quite a while and continues to do so. That encourages hobbits and probably around 12% it encourages extinction. But it's hardly mentioned.
If the current state of 'the science' in other areas is anything to go by, the suppression of any 'contrary' voices in 'climate science' is being as vigorously practiced as it is in medicine and every other discipline. So we are only getting information from the 'allowable' side of the argument. All in the name of control by the looks of it. I know that there are those out there who say the CO2 is absolutely necessary and is helping 'green' the earth - and of course without it, we don't have any oxygen either, as plants turn CO2 into oxygen. I am tired of the culture of modern science - having to interfere with absolutely everything that might be able to right itself if Mother Nature was given half a chance to practice her normal 'cycle of life'.
It's probably this dropping oxygen level that has caused dinosaurs to become nearly extinct. I think there're only a few hundred theropods and sauropods left in the wild.
I think if we were to breathe 30% oxygen now, there would be a lot more emphysema as people got older.
Yea, the powers that be want to drive everyone into mega cities like in China.
Thats it. I’m leaving town. Thank you.
Actually we need to go further back to the middle ages and then we will be truly renewable. We can burn dung. Wait for the wind to blow to grind our grain. Use salt pools and evaporation to create salt for our fish and meat.
Except no fish or meat allowed. Do you think that just because we've regressed to the level of the middle ages that the Elites will let us eat meat again?
It can get worse. There were times in the "dark ages," during the plagues probably, when the people were forced to eat rats and cats. When those became scarce, they dug up the dead and ate them. Here is just one article I found with little trouble:
https://www.grunge.com/304607/the-messed-up-history-of-cannibalism-in-the-middle-ages/
Maybe this push to eat crickets is just a cover similar to Solyent Green being made from soybeans and lentils.
There will money to be made in cookbooks:
101 Rat recipes,
Kitty flavors you can savor,
Grandma: The other OTHER white meat.
And what would happen to our CBDC?? or QR codes? ;)
Poof! Aaaand it's gone!
Have you noticed the physical infrastructure of most of America? It's far-flung, joined only by long stretches of asphalt and concrete. We can no more go back to such modes of transportation than we can go back to telegraphs for long-distance communications.
It would be much easier because the roads are already there and the wilderness is gone. For half a century the US made do with three main forms of communication: telegraph; telephone; and tell a woman.
Bicycles are part of the plan. They love to share; read all about it: https://www.weforum.org/platforms/climate-action-platform
For a few years I had the luck to live near one of the main bike commuting routes in Boston. Most of my commute followed a dedicated right-of way built on an abandoned rail line. Exercise, sunshine, and all that. Sounds great, BUT... If you think fighting car traffic is bad, just wait until you have to deal with the smug self-righteousness of blue-state bike commuters. I lost track of the times I was berated for driving "too fast" or "too aggressively". And then there were the constant additions of "innovative" new pedestrian lights and restrictions (to make everybody "safer" you know) like the ones that make you stand there and wait to use a cross-walk if you are on a bike but it's ok to walk on foot. And don't get me started about getting stuck in a "no passing zone" behind some hipster with too-loose jeans and a hairy ass crack.
You might find this funny... Our smallish town was elected to test out "bike wave safety rails" (yeah, I know wtf are those). They had signs asking people to go on line and complete a survey and contribute our thoughts.
I did. The survey site said they were on loan to our town September - April . In late October I decided to give my two cents. We are a town that gets "lake effect snow". I essentially said, "This is a solution looking for a problem and a possible liability issue" and pointed out the obvious snowplowing problems that will be very real. They were gone by the end of the week. No lie. I wonder if anyone else bothered to take the survey.
Cars and bikes don't work well together. I'm well aware of that. And when cycling is a minority transport option for sure it's hipsters and lycra. Not fond of either of them myself.
That's right. I rode a bike instead of a car for about 13 years from the late 80s to about 2001, when I got another car. For several weeks I felt really spaced out after I stopped riding the bike. But South Florida where I live has the highest pedestrian and bicycle fatality rate the country, I think. Bicycles will really only be safe once automobiles are eliminated. Of course, I have and have had a couple of nice sport sedans recently, so I really don't like the push to eliminate the internal combustion engine, let alone cars altogether, but we do need something for inclement weather--maybe covered tricycles or go back to horse-drawn carriages and covered wagons, unless horse droppings are incompatible with bicycles also.
Bicycles should definitely be part of any plan. They're cheaper, keep you fit, make your brain work and are much more social than cars.
Since animals are now walking around in circles... we can use that to power a generator. How many sheep walking in a circle do I need to charge my phone?
Animals walking in circles to power a generator so we can charge our computers and phones using 5G which is causing the animals to walk in circles. lol
Progress!
AMEN!
Hills. A lot of places have small rolling hills that are much more difficult to ride than you'd think.
Oh, and snow. And frigid weather. Even a mild day in April requires $$$ worth of gear to keep comfortable. We can bike about 4 months out of the year here in the midwest.
Obviously biking as a solution is nonsense. I tried commuting like that a few times. Ended up drenched in sweat or water each time. Not worth the bovver as they say in London. Scooter and waterproofs at minimum but even then... nothing compared to public transport.
Only on the way up.
Do you realize horses eat hay and grain, which requires large farming operations to produce. Your vision means world population dropping to a billion or so. Are you an advocate of genocide?
Balderdash. We need more farming operations.
Yep, electric cars required not by election but by decree of the Air Resource Board. We are screwed here.
It would somehow be better or more moral if dictated by election? How about choice via the marketplace instead?
lYou can't possibly let these deplorables VOTE on important stuff like this, can you?
Us great unwashed have lost our representatives...they now work for corporations and for kickbacks.
Another ironic piece of news...and the damn idiots who beleive in man made climate change just go oh yup, no problem.
Yep!
These climate morons can't think 5 minutes beyond the present time.
Can they convert trans drag queens into sources of renewable energy somehow?
Hopefully (preferably) not renewable.
I read in the Swiss snow almanac that the power of avalanches can be harnessed to make electricity .All the slops must have power stations where avalanches will drive snow turbines .Switzerland has no drag queens ,alpine cows are doing a much better job .
A valid plan but how many do you suppose are actually drummers?
Excellent Idea! I hear they make wonderful woodchipper fuel.
What an inspiring thought!
Better that than the "jobs" they're currently doing. Get them to contribute for once.
We need songwriters for their shaft gangs... wait.. hmmm... lemme rephrase that...
All the slopes in Switzerland are covered in cow dung .Last time I climbed the Matterhorn I almost broke my neck when I stepped in a cow shit close to the summit and fell half way down the mountain .A St.Bernade dog saved my life with his barrel of schnapps on his neck ,just in time .
Cow dung can be burned for fuel but it must be dried. Tough thing to do in Switzerland. Maybe the snaps can be used as fuel.
And a very good plan it is too - antiracist, inclusive, and non-methane-emitting. I suppose unicorns don't fart.
I think trannies spend most of their time crying and farting and queefing. Can their tears and gas help with windmills?
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OMG that is a good one ! gotto remember that. Thanks Lost Californian ! Come on over to GA
Ah, yes, the rules here in Commiefornia under Gruesome Newsom! 😂😂🤬
Gruesome Newsom is Jaydolph Inslee's hero. He's trying to do the same in WA state. Sadly, he'll be successful at implementing these crap policies.
Yep! In America, everybody is horrified by what is happening to California except Jay Inslee, who's taking notes.
Exactly!
I am so sorry to hear that
Oh! Bad news then. Unicorns are CO2 emissions monsters and will be strictly regulated. Rainbows are already out-of-stock in many places due to the supply chain problems.
The problem isn't so much the supply chain, but sourcing product. With the increasing popularity and legalization of marijuana, hippies have become more adept at finding the pot at the end of the rainbow and smoking it, which collapses the bow.
and don't forget the climate change, which has made stock of rainbows super low !
There will be a push once shortages take place to open up the offshore methane development bypassing the enviromental resistance..
I thought they were going to feed us 1000 calories, and put us on a generating bike until we hit our daily quota of 10,000 KWh. Somehow, I feel there's weight loss program in our future.
This is clearly a planned crisis. Remember California being Enron-ed? Electrical generation plants were suddenly "taken off-line" forcing the CA grid operators to buy electricity from Arizona, & other states at highly inflated spot prices. Energy bills went through the roof, the manipulators made tons of money & the California consumers paid that high price & were never reimbursed for the overpriced energy. Whenever I see them talking about power plants taken off-line for "maintenance" I get suspicious now. Our CA energy crisis seemed to only be about $$. The European one seems likely to be really deadly. What is the goal here?
there's definitely insane mismanagement and all kinds of scams at work here, but the central difference with the CA case, is that there's literally no marked-up electricity to buy. we just won't have any.
Interesting. California is right now dismantling several dams in the northern part of the state under the argument that it's needed to save the native salmon fishery. At at time with skyrocketing electricity costs & droughts it seems suicidal for California to take away water storage & green emission-free electrical generation from our inventory. But it's being done. Here is a sympathetic story link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-klamath-dam-removal_n_6376ad77e4b0184e84e064a4
I applaud this. If you are going to go green, then go full insane green crazy. Electric cars only, no hydro plants, no nuclear power. It will be really, really bad for them and therefore, no one is going to look at California and say, "let's do that". If you are going to kill off this net zero craziness you need to drive a stake through its heart and to do that you need some entity to go all in and show people what they are in for.
I've read your post twice, and I think you're on to something. Yes! Let's go full-bore GREEN AGENDA!
However, here in New England, can we please wait until July? I'm already wearing wool socks, a shirt & heavy sweater, and I have two blankets & a quilt on my bed at night.
Rosie you forgot the hot water bottle . In my bed my wife warms her feet on my warm belly . Don't you have any warm bellies near by ? If I can be of help let me know ,but I'm not sure if I have room on my belly for more than two feet .
Alas, I live (and sleep) alone, finding myself residing in the bluest of blue regions. I long ago abandoned any hope of finding intelligent companionship--never mind WARM companionship.
Your wife is fortunate.
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In the US, you will not fall into the abyss of green morality, not even in New England.
Already the wallstreet boys are getting away from ESG and are starting to invest in fossile fuels again.
Remember that here in Germany, and also Austria, the Greens are actually the government, and rule the media and much of the deep state. Impossible to get them out.
In the USA the green agenda is set by mone-grubbing grifters, who will easily turn their colors if it is for their financial benefits. In Europe it is done by religious fanatics, who want to see humanity going extinct.
"Impossible to get them out"
When the house is infested with termites, you hire an exterminator. If that doesn't work, you tear the house down and rebuild. Not a great option but sometimes necessary. It's not worth saving the house if it's likely to collapse on you and kill you.
I suddenly had this mental image of some pink-haired, nose-ringed "wokester" furiously pedaling a bicycle to generate enough electricity to continue playing "Minecraft."
In 2019 I would agree with you.
After the Covid experience here in Western Europe, it seems to me our fellow citizens will endure all hardship and bodily harm if they are told it is for the greater good.
Oh Andreas, so true...and so damn depressing. We are living amongst Zombies.
That seems to work in Western Europe, but in other parts of the world it may be 'Do it for the emperor!', 'Do it for the Party!' or 'Do it to piss your neighbours off!
Andreas you wrote Germany send all the left over weapons from the second world war to Ukraine ,but please don't send your last Knackwurst and Schnaps also to the Ukraine ,keep some for Christmas .
Keeping the knackwurst, but it will be soy-based, of course.
Schnaps of course will stay: how else would we be able to keep warm, and drown our sorrows?
I heard in Russia in the 90ies, when they were really down as a society, everyone still had vodka as it was subsidized.
We will probably do the same here as well, in a few years.
Also, all dead batteries must be reprocessed/disposed of IN-STATE, e.g., no exporting the waste problem either.
CC, you want several billion people die to make your point. the green new deal is a death cult and is of the same spirit as the c-nineteen vxx injections. they are both tools of depopulation.
GSM has begun according to Valentina Zharkova (PHD astrophysics amongst many other degrees) so the glaciers are coming folks. Only mass fossil fuels and nuclear will keep the lights and heating on and support lots of greenhouses for food production. Or migrate south.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOMKLDbeYE&ab_channel=TomNelson
She is right...and so is John Casey (cold Sun). He also predicted more earthquakes during solar minimums, and more volcano eruptions (check out Mauna Loa and the other volcano that just spewed today.).and why is no one mentioning the huge eruption in the Pacific near Fiji this summer?)
I thank God for people like these 2 who know we are being gaslit. I am so tired of this climate change crap being manmade.
There are a few scientists like Valentina and John speaking up but the MSM propagandists and various corrupt gubbermints give them no airtime. Yes, lower solar activity correlates to increased volcanic activity which in turn speeds up any cooling in the lower atmosphere - nothing to do with human activity. If this GSM is anything like 1645 - 1715 the northern hemisphere had better be prepared in terms of reliable energy and thus heating and food production. Otherwise, Africa , Australia and South America will have to be depended on and who knows how cold it might get on those continents anyway. I'm in eastern Australia and Brisbane just had its coldest winter on record and during the spring Sydney didn't break 30C once. The state of Victoria had flooding and cold weather for most of spring too, with snow still on the ski fields the day before summer. Summer has started here but it sure doesn't feel like it.
I am trying to plan to migrate South.
As soon as my nonagenarian father no longer needs my help, I'm heading south, too. My preference is Texas, with no state income tax and "open carry" allowed. I figure that as long as I'm armed, no one can touch my thermostat.
I'll install a pump-jack in my front yard and DARE anyone to object.
Because salmon matter more than people.
Or maybe, salmon dinners matter more for rich people than water and electricity for the rest of us.
By the way, I lived in Redding, CA for a couple of years, just a few miles downstream from the massive Shasta Dam. The state already has a ton of salmon hatcheries (to compensate for the dam). One wonders why they can't just hatch more salmon.
A few years ago, I had a conversation with my 25 year old step son about animals rights. He's a college graduate but was not particularly woke at the time. His view was that animals have rights just like people. I looked at him as if he was insane, and talked to him about man having dominion over animals and so on.
Thanks to people like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand, he's been completely red pilled and will occasionally join us at church.
That reminds me of a social media conversation I once tried to have with a former neighbor, who posted about the rights of cows. I told her that if we chose not to eat them (or use them for leather, etc.) they would still not have any rights -- that would just be our choice -- and asked her how many cows she thought would be around, and where, if they weren't being raised for human consumption. That was the end of the conversation...
i had the same convo with an x girlfriend.. she didnt like eating meat because of the poor cows etc..i said if they ban meat eating what are you going to do with your cow.. she said what do you mean.. well if cows arent used for meat they will kill them all, unless you want to raise some for pets.
I will acknowledge the rights of wolves and bears, when wolves and bears acknowledge my rights.
It's not that salmon matter more than people. It's that fly fishing for salmon by the Elite on pristine rivers matters more than people. Well, at least it matters more than the deplorable peasants.
Inslee is trying to do the same in WA, despite the fact that the majority of our power is hydro in eastern WA and the salmon numbers are UP! We spent lots installing fish ladders which have clearly helped, and now he is wasting millions on studies on removing 4 dams on the lower Columbia. He'll keep "studying" until they tell him what he wants to hear.
Since hydro is probably the most efficient and steady green-ish energy, this craziness is clearly NOT about being green. So what is it really about? Are they trying to clear-out the west and get the population out of the way?
I don't think Inslee has the brain power to think it through. He is just a puppet of the WEF. He clearly has "How to Cheat Your Way to an Election Victory" figured out though.
Catherine Austin Fitts says there is a quota for each country.
If they didn't die from the covid Standard of care (none, until you needed vents and remdesivir), they still gotta cough up more.
So since no one is going for boosters, they need to freeze or starve us out.
They may keep the more obedient ones among us.
So think most people. Remember, the nail that sticks up....
But I would like Eugypiuss to see if this is really true?
In the article linked by ADM above, ocean conditions are cited as being important reasons there are fewer salmon. There's nothing definitive about that, but it seems worth including in the debate.
Fish ladders are incredibly expensive. Hatcheries seem like a more economical solution. There are a few in and around Redding, CA, home of the Shasta Dam.
Cheers!
I loved going to Bonneville and watching the fish ladders when I was little :)
Edit: A picture!
https://boelah.blogspot.com/2017/09/fish-ladder-bonneville-fish-ladder.html
That story is perfect. It perfectly encapsulates the irrational mentality of the environmental movement and the energy sector making money off their idiocy. Spending 500 million in order to destroy a century old ecological system and reduce energy production and water supply. All so that fish might possibly be able to swim up a stream in order for some indigenous people to eat them.
another white-man-bad-scheme takes hold. these eugenicists will not be happy til mankind dies.
"What is left of your dream? Just the words on your stone.
A man who learned how to teach, and forgot how to learn.
Oh yeah."
-- Queen, "White Man" [One of Queen's lesser known songs, it's actually a well-done fictional narrative by a Native American, albeit done by play-acting English musicians.]
gdog, you have more perspacity than most.
This situation with scarcity of electricity is in itself a well considered manipulation.
Eugyppius. What are you going to do?
TRUMP was beginning to protect us from corporate greed and arrogant govt's around the world, he actually took gas prices down b/c he truly understood the woke corporations over-reaching from the BS Obama/Brandon era. He brought corps and other countries back in check. But MSM and the 50% of the public of squawking Karens and corrupt policiticans caught in their deceit would not give the guy a chance. And here we are essentially under china rule with fauxci at the helm and worthless obama behind the scenes ruining everything and corrupting every industry especially insurance and medical. Obamacare was the single most destructive thing that could have happened in our lifetime. The ppl who screamed and clamored for obamacare are getting their due, they're pawns of a govt institution that will kill them slowly like a frog in a pot. Go get some more jabs ppl, you're not dying quick enough! When you have to be coerced and bribed with donuts and groceries and gift cards and well meaning friends shouting 'the jabs are free', then you know that you are an idiot....that is, if you took the bait.
And I was a loyal trump supporter because of what he DID, not what he said.
He DID the things that made the blob and the globalists ensure that by Covid (whether released in 2019 or hyped up in 2020 ) they could rig the election of 2020...and they will rig every election from now on. Whatever you think of Trump, he was the last thing standing between us and the Globabllists who want us ALL dead.
We are no longer a Constitutional Republic...and the sooner people realize we have been hollowed out for YEARS, and revolt, we will go down in history as a failed experiment.
Alas, Babylon.
No goal. Thats the French for you. Surprised they did not go on strike. Love how they protest.
"French farmers spray shit in Paris"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7WJ1rnUMqY
Goal? The key word is "deadly".
#energystupidity
#peakelectricity
#peakstupidty, eh?
Planned in that we are running out of affordable energy and orchestrated a 'war' in Ukraine to provide an alt explanation as to why energy prices are through the roof.
The 'war' creates the impression that this is a temporary situation - and the herd doesn't panic because we are not running out of cheap energy - it's the war.
LOL We are choosing to run out of energy. Literally facilitating it by fomenting war. Ending construction of pipelines, blowing up pipelines. JC you Malthusian Peak Oil dipsticks are dumb.
I love it how you get angry when you are wrong
the goal is to destroy humanity, our cities, our life as we know it..
The goal read by insanity and pure greed - is to destroy mankind.
This is being led, paid for and nurtured by WEF,the WHO, China .... men like Bill Gates, George Soros, Klaus Schwab
they are infiltrating every industry (paying for it) ..- then taking it over - remaking it -
and then it is all about destruction of humanity ..
so yes things have definitely changed!
Everyone must wake up and get involved and follow and let our voices be heard.
If people do not do this now-- it will be like when Hitler marked on Europe - and many said -
'oh no he wont hurt my people ...'..!!
Why would you not agree to performing maintenance on nuclear plants that are past due for maintenance? In any case, Swiss reliance on power imports (similar to California) only casts them as a “victim” instead of being responsible for their own resource needs.
The MSM does not exist to tell you the truth.
The mob cannot handle the truth:
Why nuclear power will never supply the world's energy needs https://phys.org/news/2011-05-nuclear-power-world-energy.html
The End of Cheap Uranium (Cornell University Research) https://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3617
Yeah, but look at the bright side. We got rid of Grey Davis!
I don't know about "planned," but I would surely (partially) agree that advocating EVs and so-called "green" energy were own-goals, if not planned, then certainly the evidence of a failure to plan for likely contingency. They could have seen that coming for years, since it's not as though EVs and windmills magically appeared overnight. The reduction/cut-off of Russian gas/energy is easier laid to uncertainty. Yes, from this American's view, the EU's loss of this critical energy resource is mostly an own-goal too, never the less.
scam from the gitgo
Wow, unbelievable the lengths we go to to support corrupt Ukraine. All self inflicted and easily fixable but dumb ignorant politicians prefer to destroy the west.
Besides no way to enforce most of it. Seems desperate times are here if we have to ban the use of bluray players.
Europe slowly working its way to become a second world country, on a positive side might stop the endless invasion, i mean immigration.
US needs Ukraine for their money laundering operation.
...and their US funded bioweapons labs.
And, the US is running out of weapons by shipping most of it to Ukraine. Add in all the stuff the corrupt Biden regime left in Afghanistan.
I also suspect that a lot of s*x trafficking and pedophili@ happens in Ukraine that benefits the west. So yeah, slava Ukraine, keep the $$$$$ flowing endlessly.
You'll live in a van down by the river, but Voldemort Zelensky will live like a god and demand even more.
Lots of sex trafficking in Ukraine. Those poor girls and women are told they will be getting jobs as nannies for example.
Little wonder why Hunter Biden loved Ukraine.
And we have destroyed our standing army...we've slow killed most of them with the "vaxxine" and we are ready for China to land its airplanes in the north and south on those ranches the chinse bought and put runways in....there will be no reisitance.
Chinese troops did winter weather training in Canada thanks to Justin Castro Trudeau.
Gen. Milley's BFF is in China.
First, keep in mind that Europe is an American colony. Things that don't make sense if you assume that Europe is free to make decisions for itself suddenly make sense if you assume that the D.C. overlords are pulling the strings and calling the shots.
Second, some of these measures are more enforceable than others. The electric cars thing should be fairly easy to enforce. Just shut down those what-do-you-call-them places where they get recharged.
BTW, and a propos of absolutely nothing, any news on who blew up Nordstream? No idea why that crossed my mind right now.
As I like to say, it was clearly done by the mighty Mongolian fleet. Ahem.
You know, that actually sounds pretty realistic! Ahem.
US of course. Using A European country (like UK or Norway) as cover.
I suspect the perfidious UK Deep State is involved.
I’m wondering how we’ll fare in England this winter. Stater is try
Staying silent to keep up the pretence we won’t have rolling blackouts
This is backwards. American elites want to be Europeans so much they can't stand that we have a completely different system of government and don't have to follow European laws. The love the EU and wish we had to do what the EU says (and, of course, that we were part of ruling it). Other than You-know-who, our presidents have been trying to make us be exactly like Europe for decades, Obama most of all
Oh, they want European laws? Such as the ones that say you can't have an abortion on request after 12 weeks of pregnancy?
Some parts of America's elite like what they imagine Europe to be, not necessarily what it actually is. Those "some parts" do not include the Deep State, which is what I'm talking about.
"Some parts of America's elite like what they imagine Europe to be, not necessarily what it actually is."
THIS!!!
(Abortion law is one such thing, the way elections are conducted, and the European [non-] allowance for absentee ballots is another.)
Like. Very much.
The true elites have been countryless for decades.
Only the upper middle classes, slated for destruction, want the pretnece of being European.
Good point.
If you will send all the, er, "recent arrivals" back to their native lands, and guarantee the right to drink beer in public and for young women to sunbathe unclothed in city parks, I suspect many Americans would turn in their guns and pickup trucks. 😛
Prefer? please wake up...this is all deliberate and part of a plan.
North America has much the same problem. Alas things would have to get rather worse here before it would be worse than what the average third worlder grew up in.
"It's world hegemony or bust."
Indeed. And so bust it'll be. Too bad Europe will go down in the process.
Do you ever remember the Fatima Prophecies...? That Russia would be the savior of the world?
No, l don’t - but l believe that is what we are seeing. Russia is taking on the cabal that seeks to turn the world into one totalitarian state ..
"The time for petty politics is past; the next century will bring the struggle for the dominion of the world—the COMPULSION to great politics. " -- Nietzsche "Beyond Good and Evil" (section 208, commenting on a fractured, democracy-obsessed Europe vs. a potentially powerful Russia. Heck, it doesn't sound all that different a century and a half later.)
Yep. If I recall correctly, through a chastisement of sorts. It's been a while. Our Lady gave simple (not easy) instructions to offset the coming errors of Russia. "Consecrate Russia to My (her) Immaculate Heart, the Pope was to have ALL bishops around the world join him." This was to be done by, 1960(?). The pope did not do it. He half-assed it. Then Pope John Paul II tried it again but didn't say "Russia" specifically but included the whole world.
Just like my dumb sons - try to do "work arounds" - and now they are living in the messes they created by not taking me seriously. Gosh, I wonder if the Blessed Virgin Mary has the same attitude about her princes as I do my sons...
So Russia is fighting corporate greed by... invading another country? Ukraine is no bastion of integrity, but this makes no sense. Invasion and resistance do not go together.
Russian did not invade...we PROVOKED them. They had no choice. You speak like the Donbas etc. was part of Ukraine...go back and read recent and old history.
Nyet.
Well, that's an interesting take. While the people I know and follow have a variety of ideas on this issue, that is NOT one. That's why I really appreciate this forum, I hear lots of things and opinions (probably prevalent in other countries) I don't hear anywhere else.
this site might give you added perspective, with charts and maps, too! https://www.leftbrainwave.com/2022/11/the-coming-european-economic-apocalypse.html
Good. Keep reading. The world is not as you are told on the tv.
You’ve got it 100% right.
My go-to quote [allegedly] by Putin is "I will not live in a world without Russia, and neither will anyone else." Whether or not it's authentic, it surely captures a very succinct idea. And it's worth mentioning that this "quote" predates the 2022 conflict.
The world imagines Germany with an army of clipboard-wielding bureaucrats demanding entry to homes in dawn raids to check fridge temperatures and Amazon fire sticks.
What the world doesn't know is that Germany isn't remotely capable of organising something like that.
But Switzerland is!
lol very true
Sadly, Germany is. They had a day against "hatred and agitation", sending police to conduct about 80 raids. They targeted people they deemed guilty of "hatred and agitation on the internet".
Do you want to know how the German minister of the interior, one Nancy Faeser, defines hatred? She says it's something that results in strong negative emotions and feelings of hurt. And it's an offense police may kick your door in. for
Politicians across the west making life as bad as possible for their citizens.
And if you complain, you are in even more trouble.
As my dad used to say: if you think inside the box long enough, you will die inside the box.
Your dad was a wise man.
Like I said they have their marching orders, and a quota to fill.
Europe is over.
Good god. By that logic, you could get arrested for dumping your girl/boyfriend!
That was my reaction upon visits to Germany and Switzerland.
I marveled at the "ordnung" in Germany: trash barrels on street corners and everyone willingly sorted their refuse--glass, plastic, paper, etc.
Then I went to Switzerland. At noon, every clock on every building struck "12" in a perfect synchronized cacophony.
Germany is organized; Switzerland is anal retentive.
You made me laugh for the first time today! Thank you.
Smart meters, smar tvs, internet enabled fridges and freezers (the Internet of things) linked to amazon Nest type device or just wifi would be the cheapest surveillance tool. Want your heating at 22 deg C? Nope, the State will set your wifi thermostat at 19.
Yep, the idea would be to disconnect as much as possible from these tech solutions. If at all possible - won't be possible for those living in rental appartments in cities, I think.
And you can't burn a wood fire in your fireplace since October 2018 in Montreal unless the fireplace or wood stove is "certified to emit no more than 2.5 grams of fine particles per hour". Interesting policy in a province where the temp falls to -13 Fahrenheit. In Canada, you can't endanger your lungs with wood fire particulates--it's for your own good--but if you want to kill yourself in other ways, the government is ready to help!
We, the French people, do not thank Adolf Macaron for neglecting our nuclear power plants!
We were totally self sufficient in energy but since this psychopath’s aim is to destroy our country here we are, facing restrictions because this asshole is exporting energy that we don’t have to the UK, Germany and God knows where else.
As for the EV owners, put your red noses on and smile!
The Yellow Vests need to flex their muscle again.
France could be brought to a total standstill by strikes.
Strikes are the better option since Adolf Macaron has bought new armoured vehicles and powerful guns so the police can “fight peaceful protesters”.
Make no mistake, those assholes attacking the Arc de Triomphe, lighting fires and destroying shops in Paris weren’t Yellow Vests. They were antifas/black blocks hired by the government to make the people believe that the movement was violent and to justify the violent and disproportionate response of the Parisian police.
Some are obvious feds judging by how professional they behave and look even when hiding in black bloc. But for the average antifa, I wonder if they have any awareness to realize they are the exact opposite of their marketed identity. Fascist goons terrorizing people on behalf of oligarchs.
Kind of like our FBI participating in the "kidnapping" plot of the Michigan governor and January 6th.
I was recently in Nice, France. First week there, the busses going to the outlying areas were on strike for one day. The following week, the local busses and trams were on strike for one day.
Very effective.
There is a train strike this coming weekend. National. The problem is that the government doesn’t care. 😒
The government wants us dead.
Kathleen, please be my friend in the Gulag...if you end up there.
Me, I have no doubt.
I see you on Substacks and am always blown away by your comments with which I always agree.
I want the same regarding them, so…
I have admired the yellow vests since they started.
France and la liberte.
I hope they are able to throw off the yolk...because the US is already hollowed out and the worst country on earty..the Great Satan...and most of us here do not realize what has been done in our name.
Only recently I fully understood why the USA is called the Great Satan in many countries across the globe.
I agree.
I think we are also mystery Babylon in Revelations. I am horrified by what this
country has done.
Je suis Charlie
Is the story about the French people surrendering their firearms true?
Old guns, like antiques, yes. But since the government doesn’t know who has them it is the people who are volunteering and asking for someone come and collect them.
If I had one I wouldn’t. No way! Unless it could be dangerous to use it because it could blow on my face.
Only people who hunt or practice shooting as a sport can have guns here and it is not easy to get the license. It’s been like this for decades.
During World War 1, there was a huge loss of life on both sides. It is written that a whole generation of young men were lost on the battlefield. And those that survived suffered horrific injuries. Either from "going over the top" of the trenches or from poison mustard gas. I remember reading about the "men with the broken faces." Soldiers who had such horrible facial damage because that was the first part exposed when going over the top of the trenches. These men were usually hidden away in military hospitals.
World War 1 ended in 1918, and World War 2 technically started in 1939 with the invasion of Poland.
Who could fault a country that bore the scars of such bloodshed only 21 years earlier?
Those of us in the US have been spoiled, because except for Pearl Harbor, there was no damage to the infrastructure of our country during World War 2. We need to consider the mindset of huge loss of life and damage to the countries in Europe.
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50167927
Reducing the definition on streaming services, banning DVD players, that’ll do it - climate emergency averted... Planet saved... we shall have honey for tea. Barking mad.
I want to know when they'll ban televisions and radios. That might be the beginning of the cognitive turnaround.
I think stopping computer games will do it for the under 40s
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Russias invasion of Ukraine is the reality check Europe needed.
the terrifying thing is that it doesn't seem to be working. maybe the lights have to go out first.
A bold, straight line from a government policy to citizen deaths is the only thing I have hope of making any of this stop anymore.
COVID had too much room for excuses about causes of death.
They need to literally freeze, starve, or shoot us before anyone is going to get off their asses at this point.
But don't worry- they will.
I hate to say so, but this may be correct.
"It was the unvaccinated"
"It was Trump"
"It was my own fault for not coviding hard enough"
"It was COVID's fault for being 'the deadliest plague mankind has ever known' (an actual line in an actual research paper)"
These are pretty easy to wrap your mind around.
"The government turned my heat off and my mother froze to death" is very hard to displace.
I dunno. Maybe they'll figure out a way to make everyone hate Putin so they can get the WW3 that stubbornly refuses to happen.
COVID AND PUTIN KILLED THE WHOLE WORLD
It won't be this winter in any case. Next winter will be worse
Magical thinkers believe in magic!
And stupid people do not understand unintended consequences
I have family in Switzerland. I believe my poor second cousin (in her 70's) could turn into ice, and my brother, who also lives there, would somehow find an exuse to explain why whatever measures the government take were necessary.
Or not strong enough even.
The brainwashing is strong with them.
It was the Biden regime sanctions against Russia that caused this mess.
Biden and his WEF cabal pals are doing it on purpose.
YES! and the idiots who want open borders need to get robbed and acosted by some illegal thugs to shut their idiocy up. We have legal avenues for ppl to come into our country as well as others, enough of this LAWLESSNESS YOU LIBERAL IDIOTS.
The legal ways are destroying our countries (and nations) too.
Already done. Katherine at Bailiwick has the receipts.
"Post-Fukushima German energy policy made no sense from the get go: building renewables with a questionable EROI is one bold step, but in order to back them up, in case the wind doesn’t blow or the Sun doesn’t shine, you need an alternative solution, and natural gas power plants were and are the only available one: so every installed kilowatt of renewable power had to be backed by a kilowatt of natural gas. That’s as prehistoric as carbon can get, it’s some old dinosaur shit you’re pumping into the atmosphere, yet it was lawyered into being grün. It also made Putin increasingly richer and more powerful, the greener Germany got.
But it was fine, for a decade or so, because there was peace and prosperity. Enough wealth was around to waste that this decadent decision did not seem to strangle Germany. It made energy more expensive, the most expensive at times, but that’s the price of adults giving in to the crayon-drawn dreams of children."
With NS2 blown up:
"Even if Putin croaks tomorrow and the Russians, once they’ve put down their weapons, disarmed their nuclear arsenal and signed off on punishing reparations, beg us to give them rotten carrots in exchange for natural gas, der stoff won’t be able to flow like the old times, nein. Old times, for the industrial powerhouse of Europe, are physically kaput."
"While Scholz’s pragmatism seems to rule for now, the Greens, as always, are a bunch of angry children (with arts degrees) who are denied to go wild with their crayons due to the circumstances of our times, but they are ever ready."
Funnily enough, oil and oil products are much easier to ship into Europe, especially to landlocked countries like Switzerland. So an ICE car will run long after the Swiss stopped watching Blu-rays.
NatGas turbines are pretty much the only conventional source that's responsive (can be throttled up or down quickly) enough to match the unpredictably variable nature of wind and solar. Nuclear and coal are too slow to be able to do that. And Natgas is the "greenest" hydrocarbon.
While alcohol is not strictly a hydrocarbon, it can be made from all sorts of stuff, potatoes. If it was good for the V2 as rocket fuel, it might be the solution to Europe's problems.
Wood gas generators, another well-tested WW2 tech might get a comeback, all you need is a trailer to hitch it to your car. Carbon-monoxide alarm optional.
You can find peat in bogs, very renewable. The political elite can also be stashed in there. It preserves them well, so you can show it to future generations what sort of lunatics we gave the power over to.
[Based on various books and articles I've read...] Ethanol (alcohol) is in fact a relatively clean burning and practical fuel. Problem: it usually (but not necessarily always) is energy-negative, that is, it costs more to make a unit of alcohol energy than you recoup by burning it. Funny, not being economically viable seems a recurring theme with nearly all so-called "green" or "renewable" energy forms. Now why could that be?
At the end of w.w. II and shortly after wood gas was used by cars and trucks .In cars a round hole was cut in the trunk of the car to fit the wood Vergaser in .In trucks the Vergaser as it was called was fitted outside the passenger side of the truck .Small chunks of hard wood was used as fuel .
Gotta love those V2s. The offspring of V2 put a man on the moon.
The key innovation of the V2's engine, the gas generator cycle is still the key to liquid fuelled rocket engines.
V2s were made by starving forced labor at Nordhausen.
I believe it was Bob Dylan who said "you don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows" or doesn't blow.
Blue ray players and high definition netflix use more electricity? It never occurred to me.
unclear to me how much these bans are symbolic and how much they're based on actual statistics about power usage. my understanding is that water heaters, heavy appliances (like washing machines) and lighting are the major users of home electricity, but i could be wrong.
It’s just like Covid where they ban the “fun” stuff as if waiting in line for Covid tests was actually in any way less dangerous than waiting in line for a roller coaster.
Indoor lighting with LED bulbs is not terribly significant. Electric water heaters, clothes dryers, heat pumps, air conditioners, and electric stoves in the kitchen are the biggest loads. Unless of course you're trying to charge an electric car...
It's a puritan suffering tax. An electricity hairshirt.
In the US residential heating and cooling are the largest uses.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/use-of-electricity.php
The important thing is if politicians believe it.
I bet my electric dryer uses more juice.
Here in the US, the people that want everyone to drive an electric car are the same people that don’t want new powerlines, pipelines or power plants built. It must be nice living in fantasy land.
A few years ago, our ranch was burned in one of the now famous California timber wildfires. Our privately owned power poles were burned and replacing them with a large solar system made sense for financial and other reasons. We are looking at an electric truck because it would allow us to store energy when the sun is shining...because, God knows, it doesn’t always shine. It makes sense for us. Honestly, it doesn’t make any sense for most. An electric car takes the same amount of energy, pound for pound, that any car with any propulsion system takes (assuming similar aerodynamics and rolling resistance. Electric cars are just another way to control people. They can be turned off remotely. They can be made to drive where you don’t want to go. They report all that they do to the web lords.
I mostly agree with you but make no mistake most any modern car, electric or not, can be remotely disabled or worse.
Agreed. Gasoline autonomous vehicles, should they ever exist, will be able to be remotely driven where you don’t want to go. But, as long as the gasoline infrastructure remains in use. “Automotive freedom” by use of the many older cars, will be a possibility. Maybe a taste of Mad Max - lol.
or Cuba.
It's wind mills or nothing .Powerful fans can be installed behind every windmill to drive it when the wind is not blowing . The fans are powered by other wind mills ,it makes perfect sense .
"especially when there’s no shortage of prying neighbours eager to snitch." 😂😂😂😂
Good. Freeze to death or revolt.
Something has to give eventually.
I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My pronouns are told/you/so.
Love that. Can I steal it and put it on my facebook page?
Those child miners in the Democratic Republic of Congo need to dig faster for cobalt for those EV car batteries.
Not really because the masses aren't going to be able to afford the power to drive EVs. The nomenclatura, however...must be nice to dig cobalt knowing some German green can zoom around the countryside because of your work.
It proves that the "elites" do not care about the people of Africa. Those child miners are viewed as disposable. Kind of like the forced labor in Nazi occupied countries.
And, when the 1st world has food insecurity, the 3rd world starves.
The Elites don't care about anyone or anything other than themselves and their accumulation of power and wealth.
They view us as nothing but bugs to be squashed.
Yes, shooting itself in the metaphorical left and the right foot, followed by shooting itself into both hands does that to a country. Utterly self-inflicted.
Yes, it will be.
Karma for the acolytes of an ignorant Scandinavian child.
That poor victim of the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
So.. the Swiss have figured out how to get people voluntarily locked down.
1. Encourage people to buy electric vehicles
2. Refuse to power electric vehicles
3. Voila! Voluntary lockdown without a disease.
Coming soon to a nation near you.
Green energy. Is there anything it can't do?
Q: What did socialists use before candles?
A: Electricity!
(Apologies if I've already posted that on eug's SS).
How good is public transportation in Switzerland? I've never been there, so I don't know. I live in Prague, and it's pretty good. I don't have a car. I can get anywhere I need to go by public transportation.
From what I can see (never been to Switzerland but have visited other EU countries), they have VERY good public transport in the EU.
In America? No. Not at all. The only people here who use the bus are minorities in big cities, and trains are used in a limited number of cities.
From what I've seen in Switzerland, it's very good.
Okay, so in that case, depriving people of cars is not akin to imposing lockdown. Some people may be annoyed, but it's not like being unable to get anywhere.