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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

How much funding for the German NGO protest machine comes from Soros and the US Government? Spiegel sounds like The Atlantic’s trans child.

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Y. Andropov's avatar

The USAID spigot has been turned off. The CIA, DoD and State Department spigots will be turned off soon.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Has it, really?

The “ Deep Dem State” has been surfing on waves of government money for decades; and with the amount of money at stake, I would be very surprised if there ins’t a plan B, and then plans C, D, E, F & G.

Neither would I be surprised if there hasn’t been, in effect, some kind of DNC Anti-DOGE that coordinates and monitors a big chunk of what we think is crazy spending.

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Mitch's avatar

you would think, but it's hard to imagine how lazy and stupid these people are.

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the long warred's avatar

The Deep State is done. Old, out of money and DEI - quota idiots to max. The Deep State was set up by WW2-Cold Warrior New Dealers. It was inherited by Boomers in 1993 … they looted it. Like all things Boomer it is now bankrupt. It’s over.

Now phase II; the young rise and likely a real power struggle between men - note this applies to America.

Phase III - The Winners.

No idea who, young and names probably not known, I suspect these young tech types at DOGE aren’t vanishing from history.

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Danno's avatar

Many of their childhood and college years were stolen by the COVID scam. They are not happy about it and that's seen as one reason that the 18-25 year old demographic voted for Trump by a large margin.

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Danno's avatar

The "Deep Dem State" got outsmarted by DOGE from Day 1. No doubt Elon Musk and his merry band of nerds had been planning a USAID takedown at since November, at least. Within minutes (maybe seconds) of Trump's swearing-in ceremony they were storming the gates of the Deep State's digital storage centers, breaking codes and downloading valuable data before it could be destroyed or made inaccessible. That all of this was a surprise was reflected in the chaotic and contradictory media responses. And DOGE hasn't let up, making public all kinds of incriminating evidence, speculation, and seemingly wild accusations on a daily basis, just to keep their opponents off-balance. Predictably the Deep State has been slow to respond, launching a few laughably weak lawsuits in friendly district courts, and finally coordinating its messaging via its still-captive media. But the public is catching on, and the Swamp is under attack on too many fronts, and they can't be everywhere at once. I would actually be surprised if they even have a plan B C or D that hasn't already been swamped by events.

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Peter Hönig's avatar

Spiegel has received many millions by philanthrope Bill Gates.

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Y. Andropov's avatar

Bill Gates is more evil than Soros.

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Ken Kunda's avatar

Agreed, he is a lucky programmer with a programmer mentality who thinks he is so smart that he should direct the world.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

Gates was NEVER a "programmer." He is a dynastic heir walking in the footsteps of his father, the corporate lawyer William H. Gates Sr. and was wafted up to great heights atop Deep State updrafts.

Gates Sr. and Gates Jr. have been EUTHANASIA ENTHUSIASTS for decades.

QUOTE: Bill Gates Calls for ‘Death Panels’ to Euthanize Citizens Not ‘Worthy of Healthcare’

https://slaynews.com/news/bill-gates-calls-death-panels-euthanize-citizens/

Indulging his penchant for "EUGENIC" population culling, Gates has over the years invested billions in "VACCINATION" experiments in low-regulation Africa, leading to numerous deaths and infertility.

More recently, Gates became a major sponsor of the soi-disant "World Health Organization" and a self-appointed expert on infectious diseases including "COVID."

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Ken Kunda's avatar

Really?, who do you think started development of Microsoft software?

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Pacific Observer's avatar

CP/M was developed by Digital Research Inc. Microsoft staff slightly tweaked CP/M and sold it as PC-DOS/MS-DOS.

Microsoft later went on to produce Windows, a knock-off version of graphics-based operating systems pioneered by Xerox and Apple.

The "engine" inside both Apple's IOS and Windows is significantly based on Unix, developed at Berkeley and elsewhere.

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Y. Andropov's avatar

And he is remarkably ignorant.

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Peter Hönig's avatar

Soros is a bagman for the CIA. Gates has his own agenda, and it is comicbook villain evil.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

I think was can deduce the probability of dodgy Soros cash swilling around Spiegel is pretty strong.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

I remember hearing about how, when he first took over, Putin started shutting down all of the NGOs operating within Russia. At the time it sounded bad, but now it sounds grounded and diligent. When I hear the term NGO now-a-days, it makes me think of the ex-CIA guy at the carnival running the shell game. USAID, NED, EPA, State, DoD, and dozens of other US entities were probably funneling money in to your so called “German NGOs”.

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C. L. H. Daniels's avatar

I came to the conclusion years ago that NGO’s were rotten. I’d like to ban them in America too - no more tax exemptions except for churches and organizations providing demonstrable and direct services to those in need (I.e. charities). If George Soros or Charles Koch want to pay activists to generate pressure campaigns and generally screw up our country they can, but no more tax write-offs for it.

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Ken Kunda's avatar

I agree with everything you write however even worse is the fact that much of the funding for the NGO's comes from our tax dollars. Truly evil.

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Jules's avatar

I think no NGO (including churches, etc.) should be tax exempt. Leave no leaf unturned. The rot has to be removed completely.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

{...The rot has to be removed completely...}

Let's compost them, doing so, would have a benefit, finally ...

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Danno's avatar

Hear, hear! They started out as tax shelters and ended up as unregulated power centers.

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The Great Resist's avatar

Agree! If we have NON-Governmental Organizations at all, they should survive on their own merits without government funding (hence the “non” part of their name). If they can’t make it without taxpayer funding, then they should be shut down.

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Mitch's avatar

exactly right. never underestimate Putin. He may be a bastard, but he's smart.

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Danno's avatar

He needed to be a bastard. The Russia he inherited was a corrupt, dystopian mess controlled by violent gangsters.

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Nathan's avatar

I'm sure 100% of it came from USAID under the Brandon regime.

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Tardigrade's avatar

And I wonder how much it may have been affected by shutting down (hopefully and reportedly) USAID.

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Danno's avatar

A lot. That's a huge deal. Now it's under the control of Little Marco. Let's hope his actions are as strong as his rhetoric.

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

Yuri Bezmenov said:

“How much funding for the German NGO protest machine comes from Soros and the US Government? Spiegel sounds like The Atlantic’s trans child.”

My reply:

🎯😂‼️Der Transphobia effect in Germany worse TDS and Kamala loss shock post election than here near Washington District Criminale

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I remember in the 90’s a Germany bumper sticker which translated to, “I love the women’s’ movements.”

Ahhh…. those were the days….

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the long warred's avatar

First thing came to mind;

The Machine is out of money . No protests, failure to get the government act on side…

They’re broke. No money

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Danno's avatar

They have money, but from now on it has to come out of Soros' pocket. We may already be seeing a huge reduction in the size and reach of the Protest Machine.

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Viv's avatar

The NGOs receive meddlesome money from all over the place. Anyone who wants to create some form of unrest somewhere funds it and probably provides some of the ideas. Trans BS is likely partly funded by Russia and China as well as US money - whatever creates discord.

Spiegel is/was heavily Gates-funded.

Foreigners spending money to manipulate our society is one thing, but surely the worst of it is the money our own government is shovelling towards NGOs to agitate for things we don't want.

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Viv's avatar

As an acknowledged "Passdeutsche" I long for one thing. A day when I can go to the Hauptbahnhof to get an ICE to somewhere far away, walk into the newsagents at the Hauptbahnhof, and buy any German newspaper or news magazine to entertain me on my journey, and not be constantly lectured throughout my journey by said paper or magazine on how evil my chosen country is, and how much better it would be if we only had more people who want to change it into a macrocosm of the place they came from, rather than be a well-integrated, if still slightly distinct microcosm in the country they have chosen to move to.

Even M*rke* said we fucked up multiculturalism. Can we finally acknowledge that?

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AntonioB's avatar

"A day when I can go to the Hauptbahnhof to get an ICE to somewhere "

sorry your ICE is delayed. You can't plan a schedule by rail in Germany.

Last time I took the direct Hanover-Berlin I spent more time waiting for it, than in the train.

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Viv's avatar

Yeah, I should have left it at "I long for a day I can go to the HB to get an ICE. To anywhere."

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Keep "offending" the pansies. Means AfD is over the target.

The fact is, if you say something online or elsewhere and it doesn't offend anyone, then usually you've said nothing of value whatsoever.

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Mr. Lawrence's avatar

Of no value and not interesting.

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Doctor Hammer's avatar

Perhaps, but just because it is offensive we shouldn't mistake it for valuable. Too many people assume those are one to one.

Asshole. :D

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Jits and Weights's avatar

Imagine being so incompetent that your only way to win elections is to ban your opposition, and then to bungle even that. Truly elite human capital.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Modern West Germans seem impotent, groveling for relevance. Far cry from the only population not conquerable by the Roman Legions 2,000 !years ago. They’d be standout leaders of Europe if they learned from their cultural progeny in USA and spent more time questioning.

(After all, logic, reason, democracy, science all tells the same story. Germans liking to think of themselves as being disciplined and rigorous….)

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Danno's avatar

It seems like only yesterday when the smart, thrifty, competent, productive, wealthy Germans bailed out Italy, Greece, and Ireland. What happened?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

You’re right!

Well, they decided to de-industrialize for one. Went woke, and opened the borders to a million social welfare recipients.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Perhaps AfD's lasting legacy will be to demonstrate to everyone how incompetent the political class, the media wing and the intelligentsia really are. Certainly unfit to govern or run anything.

Even with the wind at their back, the resources of intelligence agencies, government funding, automatic puff pieces in the media and a full-on, unified meltdown across the political spectrum, they are still failing, and visibly so.

All just a microcosm of most European states. They do nothing well and seem truly lost.

I have no great faith the masses will ever wake up, but total, unavoidably observable incompetence is hard to vote for. The end is surely nigh.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

Quite a number of people in Australia voted just for that! Incompetence! We have the most incompetent left wing government in Australia!

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Pacific Observer's avatar

The Australian federal government and state governments (particularly Victoria) carried out their ASSIGNED tasks under OPERATION COVID ably and with APLOMB, as did Jacinda Ahern's New Zealand and various other vassals.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Stockholm Syndrome. A sign of mental abuse usually.

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CMCM's avatar
3dEdited

Have you been in California? The incompetence is off the charts, yet the voters keep the morons in office. Everyone grouses and complains as they vote for the same policies over and over. There's an unexplainable disconnect between hated policies and the people who implement them.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Alas, you are right. It is incomprehensible to me how anyone could do this. Same for the recent Canadian vote. What is going through their minds?

All I can suggest is either brainwashing or Stockholm Syndrome. Or just a death wish.

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Susan G's avatar

Re Canada, I'm convinced it was pride. Trump and the "51st state" bs made Canada small and inconsequential. From a country to one of 51? How dare he? So they voted anti-Trump, not pro-Canada. Oh, Canada!

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CMCM's avatar

Trump isn't serious about a lot of things he says...he's a great troller. Somehow people aren't always picking up on this fact.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

A very strong sign of emotional thinking. It triggers before they can examine rationally.

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Susan G's avatar

Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does. This is how to analyze Trump. His big, beautiful bill is an example. I am only partially happy, but having to heard cats(meaning the majority of the Rs in Congress) is difficult.

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SCA's avatar

So "a knife" is something that "messes with you?" Linguistics is magic.

I think also there is a deep mammalian hunger to live in health rather than misery. Have you noticed the strange artistic push since the '70s, in novels and filmmaking, to present the miserably neurotic as the normal condition? After the despair The Plague Era was engineered to inflict on us, people are maybe finally just a wee little bit fed up with that framing, and even Merz's pathetic collection of losers can't not sense that the blood in German veins is starting to warm up a little and they don't know what to do about it.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

And “Cars kill” 😂😂😂

Better outlaw cars and knives.

Too bad about the toast with butter. Sacrifices must be made!

Anyway, butter is not Net Zero so we can go without all of that!

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kertch's avatar

I'm sure Bill Gates is already working on "Bug Butter".

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Chixbythesea's avatar

He now has an “Experimental” TB vaccine ready to launch in Africa.

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Rosemary B's avatar

he loves using and abusing Africans.

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: he loves using and abusing Africans ...

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... and then discarding them after use. See comment above.

Western Leftards, of course, don't object and positively thrill at the thought of all the "regrettable" weeding that is "unfortunately" necessary "for the greater good."

If you like BREAKING EGGS, you might as well get into MAKING OMELETTES.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Ugggh

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KarlM Alias's avatar

It may well be warming up, but it is also clotting, at least in those who took the safe and effective lethal genetic injection.

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SCA's avatar

Yes, this is the tragedy. I hope at least some of them are taking their Vitamin C in therapeutic doses. Cleans out arteries marvelously.

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SCA's avatar

I did say "therapeutic dose." I've never taken the vax but I do take at least 8,000mg of Vitamin C daily. When I was beating back the shingles five years ago, I took at least twice that amount.

In my view all these detoxifying protocols are a great way for grifters to make lotsa lotsa bucks. But people should spend their money as they wish.

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Rosemary B's avatar

yep. Do your own research and be your own boss when you can, while you can haha

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SCA's avatar

While the brain cells remain with us.

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GeroDoc's avatar

Hi - you said: “These numbers are so absolutely dismal, we can only conclude that somebody has very deliberately refused to turn on the German NGO protest machine. Perhaps the new government has pulled some levers here, or perhaps as I suggested above the BfV assessment is so bad they’ve decided to shelve the idea for now, or perhaps there’s something else going on”

Perhaps the NGO-swarm is finally getting meaningfully starved of cashflow, & the sympathetic entities that are being asked to step in & fill the financial gap (say, by spending down assets) - are balking

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Pacific Observer's avatar

QUOTE: Perhaps the NGO-swarm is finally getting meaningfully starved of cashflow, ...

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Vitamin "M" deficiency?

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Joseph Little's avatar

Certainly a hopeful idea!

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Suzie's avatar

I think most of those who actually showed up to protest were most likely those who got paid to do so by their NGO Overlords, but people from the actual citizenry didn’t go along for the ride this time.

Maybe they smell how rotten and dangerous a move this is by the government on banning one of the more popular parties in the country.

The US Vice President and Secretary of State did not have kind words for this stunt that flies in the face of every democratic norm, which also might have embarrassed regular Germans.

In short, despite the government’s and media’s malevolent efforts to sell this whole drama, the people ain’t buying it - and their internal polling undoubtedly is showing that.

How they ever back down from, or even attempt to moderate this mind-bendingly stupid move is going to be the really tricky part.

Stay tuned.

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Joseph Little's avatar

As an American, I find it completely outrageous that Germany would ban the leading party.

Also, this is outrageous elsewhere (compare France).

Further, it is outrageous that, with eyes open, Germany is committing suicide. Ok, not literally, but financially and culturally.

Let’s not pretend Germany is perfect. But there are so many good parts of German culture: certainly Goethe, Beethoven, Bach. So many others.

Wachet Auf!

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Yancey Ward's avatar

The ban will come in the dark of the night when people have stopped paying attention.

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eugyppius's avatar

Not possible. They need to get their activists yelling and shouting on the streets, to get nervous politicians to apply for a ban. Then the Karlsruhe judges will consider the case for years. Maybe by 2029 there will be a decision. Banning a party in Germany is the opposite of secret or easy.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Hopefully by then AfD will be majority elected or the EU will disintegrate, or both.

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Yancey Ward's avatar

You are assuming the banners follow the law- I make no such assumptions any longer.

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SpankinRedAss's avatar

Real shame that they shut off the USAID spigot.

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PhilP's avatar

When the article states that "5000 were registered" but only 250 appeared, is the 5000 what the protest organizers told authorities they expected in order to get a permit or do all individuals need to "register" ?

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eugyppius's avatar

it's what the organisers told authorities they would have.

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Mr. Lawrence's avatar

Ok, that is funny.

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wolf's avatar

Revoke NGO status from all of those leftist clown groups and nobody will show up to protests. No funding no paid protesters.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

It would seem the funders got there first.

Hence the no-shows at the protests on Sunday.

Rent-a-mob was out doing other things.

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CMCM's avatar

I wonder if Soros is finally running out of mad money.

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EppingBlogger's avatar

During the Brexit debate in Britain it seemed to me that the more ridiculous the attacks by the elites the more determined the people were to vote to leave.

I wonder if the same might happen over Afd. The public have been told there is a shocking record of anti-democratic behaviour by them only for the evidence to be nothing of the sort. Perhaps this and the failure by Union parties to derived what voters wanted, indeed the opposite is proposed, there might be a surge towards Afd.

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ConcernedCitUSA's avatar

"Streisand Effect."

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Va Gent's avatar

"These numbers are so absolutely dismal, we can only conclude that somebody has very deliberately refused to turn on the German NGO protest machine."

I have a theory about this: Ever since USAID was dissolved, the US protest machine has been comprised of only oldsters with hand-crafted signage, versus the throngs of young people with identical professional signs of yesteryear.

Methinks we cut off the global malcontent's $$$ spigot, and the paid professional are staying home...

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Rikard's avatar

One of the spigots was almost certainly USAID, but there's no shortage of corporate sponsorship. Look at the NAACP f.e. almost all of its funding is from private capitalist US corporations such as Ford, PepsiCo, JP Morgan Chase, and many more household-names.

It's the same in Europe, capitalist corporations and oligarchs funding "NGOs" to side-step democratic process and to use their capital as leverage against the will of the people.

Possibly, with USAID temporarily stymied as a lever for whomever in the US is directing things, the co-ordination and organisation of these groups are currently in upheaval as ranking members scramble to grab as much as they can while there's still anything to grab, coming into conflict with their own cadre of True Believers who a) don't get that they only represent themselves and b) actually believe the talking points fed them.

Case in point: St Greta the Insufferable of The Climate. She has lost virtually all funding, and has been tried and convicted in Sweden several times now, for stunts she could pull off with police support just a year or so before. Someone, somewhere, decided she was played out in 2023, well before the Israel-Gaza conflict re-started.

The two important question for all of us are:

How to we keep the spigots off?

How do we get our governments to publicly audit all these organisations?

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ConcernedCitUSA's avatar

EXACTLY what I thought.

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Susan G's avatar

Hope that is true.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Ok so the regime stood down their pet protesters, in case the protesters forced a legal action to ban AfD, which the regime feared it would lose?

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

"The mysterious 1,100-page assessment thus begins to look like an assemblage of material thrown together for the benefit of journalists..."

Ah! A press guide! That's done here in the U.S. all the time by large organizations. They distribute their talking points and propaganda to low IQ journalists in hopes that they'll regurgitate it verbatim in their articles.

And it does work to some degree. In all the anti-Trump screeds, no matter who publishes them, you'll see the same catch-words used... straight from the press releases.

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Seb Thirlway's avatar

Yep. Chomsky covered this in "Manufacturing Consent", years ago. That was before he went all COVID-crazy...

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