I’m just struggling to understand how the EU, which in a short while (20 years) became such a huge regulatory institution with rules about everything, but it doesn’t have any rules about defending basic borders or how to handle one Schengen country who allows unmitigated immigration, to the consternation of the other member countries. I guess it just affirms that the EU regulatory body is one big pile of steaming hot air and taxes. Still hoping I will be alive when the EU bloc is undone and Schengen falls (or at least is only open to a smaller group of more reasonable countries).
Im afraid the lesson the leftist retards in America will take away from the Ceuta debacle is that letting in 20 million illegals in 4 years wasn't enough to abolish our sovereignty.
Hopefully, there won't be a "next time". But I can't help but think that some Republicans were complicit, believing that it would be to their benefit to allow the Dems hang themselves, even at the risk of ultimately destroying the country.
Hardly. They supported it outright because they're the other half of the Uniparty and because their donors want it. All the "right-wing" rhetoric they dribble out is just to fool their constituents, for whom they have nothing but contempt. I used to work for them, so I saw it first-hand.
If you don't believe Republicans believe their supporters are idiots, you have obviously never been on the receiving end of their donation-soliciting phone TXT operation. It's like a subscription to the Weekly World News.
Right? Outright, transparent, MF LIES. Sometimes even accompanied by threats.
"Henry- working late & want to get your address right.. is it 7923 Long st, AZ? sending your $6k check in a min! [url]"
"After you read this text, delete all other texts on your phone. YES, really. It's that important: [url]"
"Not letting you off the hook, Henry. You're the last person in AZ we're waiting on to confirm their MAGA support: [url]"
"Your silence will cost you, Henry. We're not going to ask again. Finish your MAGA Voter Profile to resolve the problem: [url]"
"CPT. Mike Bouchard here from the US Army. I'm giving you a DIRECT ORDER to read the following sensitive & urgent update: [url]"
"That's not very nice, Henry! I reached out SEVERAL times, but no response? It's Mark with my FINAL message: [url]
And my favorite lie:
"GOP Leadership has received word that you would like a break from political messages. Only 1 more step to secure a pause: [url]"
What annoys me is knowing that these messages actually deceive and bully defenseless people, especially seniors.
I was recently tasked with "closing out" the email box of a client who recently died at age 103. I found a series of messages from him to "President Trump" that he was under the clear misimpression was actually being read BY President Trump. He kept explaining guiltily that he could not manage to contribute any more because he was a senior on a severely limited income. It was genuinely heartbreaking.
The people who send out these political lies need to receive severe street beatings. If someone Seth Rich'ed one of them, I wouldn't go out of my way to prosecute.
Re: the migration: The most difficult part of considering this from the US is the geography, especially with Cueta and Millieta(?) being Spanish enclaves, subject to Spain’s laws, being taxpayers. yet apparently crossing to the mainland from Morocco. Are they immigrants from Morocco to the enclaves, or from the enclaves onto the mainland. Where is the seat of government?
I wonder how much they are traveling through the continent and how leaders are reacting. Americans so this escalate over 4 years, and the scene was reminiscent of that time before President Trump entered Office in ‘24 with a plan. It will take until’28 to remove the millions allowed in, and the remaining millions crossing for decades prior.
The fools who thought a small block of minor countries.... the Netherlands, Luxembourg and ... oh..... yes.... Belgium who are so different and yet almost identical... could have the 'idea' extend from Norway to Spain.
That was full-on Libtard.
Indeed the whole EU27 project defined Libtard.
We know. We escaped, even as Libards in the UK apply 'democracy' to kommand our return to the EU without a single vote.
I was truly shocked to follow that UK referendum so closely, be sooo happy at the result and then deflated when the politicians welcomed EU rule in front of evryone’s faces.
The sad thing is the party of protest can not discuss anything. That leads to confrontation along with inaction. Any country will not survive for long in paralysis.
It’s the beauty of the modern liberal bureaucracy - designed to pester, preach, and persecute its tax paying citizens, while turning a blind eye to rape, murder, and every form of blatant disregard for everything their society stood for in the name of diversity
Its a question of motivation eugyppius. Drive too fast? Build without a permit? Operate a business outside your granted license? Witness the hammer of god descend upon you
The crimes of the so-called helpless? Boring. Its like issuing fines to crows. The crows just dont care
Do you remember back in 2012 or so that little Syrian kid who drowned on a Turkish beach? Or was collected there.. not important. But I donated back then to one of those private ship outfits that sail around and rescue ppl. Knowing what I know now I wouldnt have, but a lot of people are immune to evidence...
Rape fantasies and the will to slavery ("receiving end dept.") are all too real. My younger-days conviction that our Founders were unkind for not enfranchising women has been burned hollow. Furthermore recent history has done nothing but establish the absolute statistical insanity of allowing them to hold actual office.
At least Spain's PM can claim to have been caught unawares. His fingerprints are not all over the travel documents. (Not yet, anyway, but this story is still young...)
The problem, really, for an unprecedented-in-world-history percentage of the general population everywhere in the West that perceives itself as educated and sophisticated and with far too much time on its hands or meandering through its brain cells is that the basic truths of how to build and sustain civilizations were recognized thousands of years ago, and nothing has changed about human nature.
These truths are stark. You take care of your own and you prevent with every means available to you the attempts of others to encroach upon and supplant your own. If you don't disaster will engulf you.
You're so right, human nature hasn't changed a bit in thousands of years. My husband is reading Aristotle, and he's reading to me the parts about the Greeks experimenting with various political systems, including the variations of democracy. It's amazing to see that the political scams and manipulations haven't changed at all in what?, 2,000 years. God bless the ancient Greeks, they were seriously trying to figure out how to have a decent, fair, political system.
We do indeed know that there are some fundamental rules, like protect your own, defend yourselves against aggressive intruders. Pretty simple. I hope the cureent day humans realize this and stand up to defend themselves soon, before it has to become a holocaust. The worse the problem gets, the worse the solution will be.
It's instructive to ponder how many political systems that failed conclusively were built upon assumptions that human tribal monkey nature could be forcibly evolved into something more angelic. Communism is, of course, the best example, requiring humans to relinquish their individual wills to territory, possessions, and control of their own circumstances. At best you can achieve a glum zoo full of depressed animals whose poo-flinging behaviors have been oppressed to acceptable limits, but eventually they cease reproducing in any case.
They make busywork for themselves as job security 😐
I remember reading years and years ago about how the EU had all these crazy regulations about the size and shape of zucchini. At the time I thought it was a joke. It turns out (from that Wikipedia article) they've been obsessing about produce configuration since at least 1995.
Here in the US, there's a financial guru known as "Rich Dad" who likes to clarify your understanding of which of your possessions are assets and which are liabilities with a simple rule: "assets feed you, liabilities eat you."
As expected from Reality, the whole thing’s a mess. Two rays of sunshine though:
- The initial footage was genuinely shocking and not even the most pro-migration media outlets could summon the energy to selectively edit in search of an Alan Kurdi moment.
- Sanchez’s government is busy pointing out that Meloni’s government has allowed bigger cross-Med flows (over longer periods of time), i.e. absolutely no one now denies that these events are bad for Europe.
When your worldview directly contradicts reality, sooner or later the cracks will become visible to even the most hereditarily retarded national official. The crucial question is, how many normies will be oppressed, impoverished, crippled, and killed in the time it takes reality to prevail? And how many successive turnings of that wheel can occur before society collapses entirely?
Among populations of contemporary sizes, the inertia of willful stupidity can be planetary.
The world does not view openness, generosity and compassion as we do. Gad Saad talked about this with a friend from the Middle East. The Arabs view us as simply weak. They would never allow mass immigration. There is no empathy or compassion there. It is exploitation all the way down. You were a fool to let them in. Numerous videos of first and second-gen immigrants in our nations quite open about how stupid we are.
They have a model of their post-national world inside their minds. Global socialism, basically. They imagine they will remain at the top of the hierarchy rather than be discarded, which is more likely.
Their contempt for their fellow countrymen will be their undoing. Their disdain for nations is like abandoning your house because luxury hotels are nicer. Fine at first. Then you realize they are all the same, and none of them are yours. You share them with everyone even if they are luxurious. The luxury cannot compete with home comforts. Eventually we all yearn to hear people speak our own language and even our own accents.
Our leaders are failing to maintain our homes. Simple as that.
It's worse than that. The progressives prefer their new arrivals to their own people. They find them interesting, and exciting, an escape from the ennui of the prosperous and peaceful societies they have inherited. They have fallen out of love with their historic identity, and they wish it away. These darker skinned arrivals are objects of sympathy, attention, and having them there gives frisson or moral satisfaction. Their own people are dull, lifeless, and uninspiring by comparison, a sort of embarrassment also, as is their historic identity.
Having successfully neutered their domestic stock using continuous belittlement coupled with domestic lawfare, the AWFLs seek to quench their desire to excitement with a new and exotic source of bad-boys.
Reported for spreading fake news to the EU Digital Service Act authorities! Queen Ursula just praised the efforts of Spanish authorities and thanked Morocco for the cooperation in the swift return of these migrants. So it is just a matter of other EU countries needing to show more of that magic ‘solidarity’ with Spain and mr. Pedro!
They should have been shot by Spanish soldiers as soon as they bum rushed the border. I guarantee that once the first burst of machine gun fire struck home, the "mass migration" would have ended. Nations have every right to defend their borders with deadly force.
I’m just struggling to understand how the EU, which in a short while (20 years) became such a huge regulatory institution with rules about everything, but it doesn’t have any rules about defending basic borders or how to handle one Schengen country who allows unmitigated immigration, to the consternation of the other member countries. I guess it just affirms that the EU regulatory body is one big pile of steaming hot air and taxes. Still hoping I will be alive when the EU bloc is undone and Schengen falls (or at least is only open to a smaller group of more reasonable countries).
Im afraid the lesson the leftist retards in America will take away from the Ceuta debacle is that letting in 20 million illegals in 4 years wasn't enough to abolish our sovereignty.
It'll be 100 million next time.
Hopefully, there won't be a "next time". But I can't help but think that some Republicans were complicit, believing that it would be to their benefit to allow the Dems hang themselves, even at the risk of ultimately destroying the country.
Hardly. They supported it outright because they're the other half of the Uniparty and because their donors want it. All the "right-wing" rhetoric they dribble out is just to fool their constituents, for whom they have nothing but contempt. I used to work for them, so I saw it first-hand.
If you don't believe Republicans believe their supporters are idiots, you have obviously never been on the receiving end of their donation-soliciting phone TXT operation. It's like a subscription to the Weekly World News.
Omg this is so true. I’ve been getting texts about “cashing in my $5,000 DOGE check” LOL, I just can’t
And, "President Trump wanted you specifically to get this limited edition gold coins" 😂
Right? Outright, transparent, MF LIES. Sometimes even accompanied by threats.
"Henry- working late & want to get your address right.. is it 7923 Long st, AZ? sending your $6k check in a min! [url]"
"After you read this text, delete all other texts on your phone. YES, really. It's that important: [url]"
"Not letting you off the hook, Henry. You're the last person in AZ we're waiting on to confirm their MAGA support: [url]"
"Your silence will cost you, Henry. We're not going to ask again. Finish your MAGA Voter Profile to resolve the problem: [url]"
"CPT. Mike Bouchard here from the US Army. I'm giving you a DIRECT ORDER to read the following sensitive & urgent update: [url]"
"That's not very nice, Henry! I reached out SEVERAL times, but no response? It's Mark with my FINAL message: [url]
And my favorite lie:
"GOP Leadership has received word that you would like a break from political messages. Only 1 more step to secure a pause: [url]"
What annoys me is knowing that these messages actually deceive and bully defenseless people, especially seniors.
I was recently tasked with "closing out" the email box of a client who recently died at age 103. I found a series of messages from him to "President Trump" that he was under the clear misimpression was actually being read BY President Trump. He kept explaining guiltily that he could not manage to contribute any more because he was a senior on a severely limited income. It was genuinely heartbreaking.
The people who send out these political lies need to receive severe street beatings. If someone Seth Rich'ed one of them, I wouldn't go out of my way to prosecute.
I’m in on that. Really a riot. Self discipline necessary.
Yes. Plus they send me the same shit multiple times per day and the never do a damn thing
Re: the migration: The most difficult part of considering this from the US is the geography, especially with Cueta and Millieta(?) being Spanish enclaves, subject to Spain’s laws, being taxpayers. yet apparently crossing to the mainland from Morocco. Are they immigrants from Morocco to the enclaves, or from the enclaves onto the mainland. Where is the seat of government?
I wonder how much they are traveling through the continent and how leaders are reacting. Americans so this escalate over 4 years, and the scene was reminiscent of that time before President Trump entered Office in ‘24 with a plan. It will take until’28 to remove the millions allowed in, and the remaining millions crossing for decades prior.
Could very well be that some Republicans were too clever by half.🤨
I wonder if there will be land acknowledgement statements at all civic affairs when the migration is complete…
Doubtful. They already owned Spain once, and anywhere that Islam has reigned is, in their eyes, Islamic forever. They have a duty to reconquer it.
And Spain has the duty to defeat them again.
The duty yes, but I fear they don't have the will. And I'm equally unconvinced that they *know* they have that duty. :-/
I’m definitely worried about this too. Very worried.
I think we are learning there aren't any reasonable countries though a few reasonable people can be found everywhere.
The fools who thought a small block of minor countries.... the Netherlands, Luxembourg and ... oh..... yes.... Belgium who are so different and yet almost identical... could have the 'idea' extend from Norway to Spain.
That was full-on Libtard.
Indeed the whole EU27 project defined Libtard.
We know. We escaped, even as Libards in the UK apply 'democracy' to kommand our return to the EU without a single vote.
See Uni-Party since 2016.
Libtards.
I was truly shocked to follow that UK referendum so closely, be sooo happy at the result and then deflated when the politicians welcomed EU rule in front of evryone’s faces.
The very same path for me. Elation at the win that was not 'permitted', and then the barefaced showdown which is still going on.
"No, no-no, no-no-no, there's no way!" says UniParty.
Same thing here in the US, with Trump having won, and then being stymied at every turn.
The sad thing is the party of protest can not discuss anything. That leads to confrontation along with inaction. Any country will not survive for long in paralysis.
"I’m just struggling to understand how the EU... doesn’t have any rules about defending basic borders"
The EU was the pilot project for globalist government.
The final version won't have any borders, so that problem was supposed to solve itself.
"Rules about everything" only work on people who actually follow rules.
It’s the beauty of the modern liberal bureaucracy - designed to pester, preach, and persecute its tax paying citizens, while turning a blind eye to rape, murder, and every form of blatant disregard for everything their society stood for in the name of diversity
Its a question of motivation eugyppius. Drive too fast? Build without a permit? Operate a business outside your granted license? Witness the hammer of god descend upon you
The crimes of the so-called helpless? Boring. Its like issuing fines to crows. The crows just dont care
White liberal females hand out bottled water to these savages like its a zoo break of cute little animals.
I've seen less terrifying scenes in apocalyptic zombie movies.
Do you remember back in 2012 or so that little Syrian kid who drowned on a Turkish beach? Or was collected there.. not important. But I donated back then to one of those private ship outfits that sail around and rescue ppl. Knowing what I know now I wouldnt have, but a lot of people are immune to evidence...
Well that was before there were state sanctioned invasions from shithole countries
No one else will date them.
Rape fantasies and the will to slavery ("receiving end dept.") are all too real. My younger-days conviction that our Founders were unkind for not enfranchising women has been burned hollow. Furthermore recent history has done nothing but establish the absolute statistical insanity of allowing them to hold actual office.
https://x.com/i/status/2083637556319543378
Whaaaat? You don't find this attractive?!
Now I’m going to have nightmares! Thanks, Ryan.
God, I wish that I hadn't done that.
I am going to have to wash my eyes out with soap.
LOLOLOL!
That’s gotta be at least half of it.
Nothing compared to the invasion of the United States under FJB and Mayorkas. Same as landing flares for the japs at Pearl Harbor. Treasonous.
Here in America, we do everything bigger and better (or worse).
At least Spain's PM can claim to have been caught unawares. His fingerprints are not all over the travel documents. (Not yet, anyway, but this story is still young...)
At least Spain isn’t (yet) flying these criminals all over their country at night like Biden was.
Yes.
The problem, really, for an unprecedented-in-world-history percentage of the general population everywhere in the West that perceives itself as educated and sophisticated and with far too much time on its hands or meandering through its brain cells is that the basic truths of how to build and sustain civilizations were recognized thousands of years ago, and nothing has changed about human nature.
These truths are stark. You take care of your own and you prevent with every means available to you the attempts of others to encroach upon and supplant your own. If you don't disaster will engulf you.
You're so right, human nature hasn't changed a bit in thousands of years. My husband is reading Aristotle, and he's reading to me the parts about the Greeks experimenting with various political systems, including the variations of democracy. It's amazing to see that the political scams and manipulations haven't changed at all in what?, 2,000 years. God bless the ancient Greeks, they were seriously trying to figure out how to have a decent, fair, political system.
We do indeed know that there are some fundamental rules, like protect your own, defend yourselves against aggressive intruders. Pretty simple. I hope the cureent day humans realize this and stand up to defend themselves soon, before it has to become a holocaust. The worse the problem gets, the worse the solution will be.
There aren't any permanent solutions. But doing one's best by the people nearest to one is a good principle.
"God, family, country."
For atheists, it's even simpler.
It's instructive to ponder how many political systems that failed conclusively were built upon assumptions that human tribal monkey nature could be forcibly evolved into something more angelic. Communism is, of course, the best example, requiring humans to relinquish their individual wills to territory, possessions, and control of their own circumstances. At best you can achieve a glum zoo full of depressed animals whose poo-flinging behaviors have been oppressed to acceptable limits, but eventually they cease reproducing in any case.
It’s beyond funny that the EU is so busy regulating the curvature of bananas* that they don’t have time for irrelevancies like borders.
*Yes, slightly exaggerated, but makes the point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_(EC)_No._2257/94#
One of my UK friends mentioned them bananas to me a few years ago and I sat here shaking my head. Giving bureaucrats busywork is a bad strategy.
They make busywork for themselves as job security 😐
I remember reading years and years ago about how the EU had all these crazy regulations about the size and shape of zucchini. At the time I thought it was a joke. It turns out (from that Wikipedia article) they've been obsessing about produce configuration since at least 1995.
https://substack.com/@tardigrade1/note/c-304416762
So EU insanity is not a recent development.
Tell them your zucchini identifies as a banana, then scream "chlorophobia!" until they relent.
Disturbing to think of the psychological profile for these people.
Yeah. They'll *do it.
And then you're *really* fucked!
Here in the US, there's a financial guru known as "Rich Dad" who likes to clarify your understanding of which of your possessions are assets and which are liabilities with a simple rule: "assets feed you, liabilities eat you."
https://richdad.com/assets-vs-liabilities/
Taxation and regulation is an asset because it generates money. Security and border control is a liability, because it drains money.
Your "leaders" know that money they have to spend on something else is money they cannot spend on themselves.
As expected from Reality, the whole thing’s a mess. Two rays of sunshine though:
- The initial footage was genuinely shocking and not even the most pro-migration media outlets could summon the energy to selectively edit in search of an Alan Kurdi moment.
- Sanchez’s government is busy pointing out that Meloni’s government has allowed bigger cross-Med flows (over longer periods of time), i.e. absolutely no one now denies that these events are bad for Europe.
2015 is ancient history, in short.
When your worldview directly contradicts reality, sooner or later the cracks will become visible to even the most hereditarily retarded national official. The crucial question is, how many normies will be oppressed, impoverished, crippled, and killed in the time it takes reality to prevail? And how many successive turnings of that wheel can occur before society collapses entirely?
Among populations of contemporary sizes, the inertia of willful stupidity can be planetary.
I have a stupid question: How did The NY Times know to have reporters "on the ground"?
This was obviously arranged by someone or something bigger than just a random social media group.
They're embedded with Soros' foundations.
Queen Isabella solved this for Spain in 1492. All sent home.
So what you're saying is everything will be fine 800 years from now?!...;)
Ha, no but the Battle of Granada in 1492 changed Spain. It took years to move the Muslims out. But it worked.
w.r. is saying that it's not impossible to simply and indiscriminately deport every last one of them.
Yeah I know what hes saying im just being silly.
The question is do we have the intestinal fortitude to do so.
No, only about 500 lil old years.
The last time Spain was relevant, apparently.
Migrants? Might as well call them what they are, invaders.
The world does not view openness, generosity and compassion as we do. Gad Saad talked about this with a friend from the Middle East. The Arabs view us as simply weak. They would never allow mass immigration. There is no empathy or compassion there. It is exploitation all the way down. You were a fool to let them in. Numerous videos of first and second-gen immigrants in our nations quite open about how stupid we are.
Yes - the Arabs are into self-preservation. Smart people.
Quite. We have lost our minds.
I guess They just want to rule over the ashes, I can't think of another logical explanation.
They have a model of their post-national world inside their minds. Global socialism, basically. They imagine they will remain at the top of the hierarchy rather than be discarded, which is more likely.
Their contempt for their fellow countrymen will be their undoing. Their disdain for nations is like abandoning your house because luxury hotels are nicer. Fine at first. Then you realize they are all the same, and none of them are yours. You share them with everyone even if they are luxurious. The luxury cannot compete with home comforts. Eventually we all yearn to hear people speak our own language and even our own accents.
Our leaders are failing to maintain our homes. Simple as that.
well at least Ceuta is the fastest growing city in the world....:)
They'll be the Philosopher King, not ditch digger #93
Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking personal balance sheet.
It's worse than that. The progressives prefer their new arrivals to their own people. They find them interesting, and exciting, an escape from the ennui of the prosperous and peaceful societies they have inherited. They have fallen out of love with their historic identity, and they wish it away. These darker skinned arrivals are objects of sympathy, attention, and having them there gives frisson or moral satisfaction. Their own people are dull, lifeless, and uninspiring by comparison, a sort of embarrassment also, as is their historic identity.
Having successfully neutered their domestic stock using continuous belittlement coupled with domestic lawfare, the AWFLs seek to quench their desire to excitement with a new and exotic source of bad-boys.
Where are the old East German guards when we need them?
Their rifles were pointed at their own people. But I understand the sentiment.
Henry IV, Part 2,
I cut them off and had a purpose now
To lead out many to the Holy Land,
Lest rest and lying still might make them look
Too near unto my state. Therefore, my Harry,
Be it thy course to busy giddy minds
With foreign quarrels…
This was the scene of the US southern border from 2020 through most of 2024. Except that the US Democrats bused the invaders all over the country.
Remember, thousands were flown in as well.
In America, we do everything better and more efficiently -- even screwing up.
And flew them in the middle of the night.
into New York, to hide them. Only blue state they needed to do that.
All true about weakness. But who knows, maybe one day we will learn also about interests of certain geopolitical actors.....
Reported for spreading fake news to the EU Digital Service Act authorities! Queen Ursula just praised the efforts of Spanish authorities and thanked Morocco for the cooperation in the swift return of these migrants. So it is just a matter of other EU countries needing to show more of that magic ‘solidarity’ with Spain and mr. Pedro!
They should have been shot by Spanish soldiers as soon as they bum rushed the border. I guarantee that once the first burst of machine gun fire struck home, the "mass migration" would have ended. Nations have every right to defend their borders with deadly force.