As the relevance of SARS-2 recedes ever further, public health managers seek to apply the same risk magnification, testing, vaccination and hygiene regime to the flu.
How on earth did mankind ever survive without the aid of our benevolent health experts? We should have been extinct many thousands of years ago.
I’m not that old, nor am I young...65...and I have never taken a flu shot in my life and have zero intentions of ever getting one. Common sense, at least a moderately healthy lifestyle and selected vitamin and other supplements go a long way to confounding the wishes of our Evil Overlords that we all live in fear, and a goodly number of us perish, at these invisible menaces.
Agree. I'm 70 (August) and decades ago, a physician told me to take Vitamin D. (She was foreign-born.) Since that time, I have not had a cold, no flu of any kind since 1984. Americans are brainwashed into thinking a pill or vaccine will prevent illness, when a lot of it is mindfulness about being healthy and not making stupid decisions.
In my lifetime, "tv" ads went from over-the-counter aids like Geritol or Tums to now, hard drugs to "ask your doctor about." America doesn't give a crap about you being healthy. That's up to you and your family.
American Health'care' wants you to live very unhealthy so you become a chronic patient and take lots of poisons that make you sicker and even more doc dependant ! Foreign born here too, and doing herbal and homeopathic since I was a teenager because do almost poisoned me ! once bitten twice shy
This is true. I am a Family Nurse practitioner and now specialize in de-prescribing. I was at a conference once and they had a class teaching you how to tether your patients to your practice. My hope with my practice is to help patients learn to live a healthy life so they don't need me!!! My. views were not popular in the clinic setting so I moved on!
You and Rick are mere youngsters. 87 here, never had a shot of any kind since I was a child, have never seen a doctor for other than broken bones that I couldn't fix myself.... still gather, buck, and split our firewood, etc.. rural living helps, as it demands excercise... on NO medication... take supplements, and drink lots of water. The 'experts' can practice peeing up a rope.
I studied a bit, years ago, about where and how the biggest pockets of centenarians live. Easy going lifestyles, healthy food, social structure, spirituality were all among the common traits. But another was that they weren’t hypochondriacs, for sure. Many never went to doctors except, like you mentioned, for acute care. I recall one man in his 80’s that had just recently visited a doctor for the first time due to a bad cut he received doing some sort of connstruction work.
I, likewise, don’t subscribe to the “yearly checkup” thing. It’s been 15 years since I’ve seen a doctor, and getting close to 40 years since my last “checkup”. 😂🤷♂️. All I know is both my parents went to doctors often, and both died taking lots of prescription drugs that likely didn’t extend their days on Earth by a minute. Healthy diet is our first best medicine.
totally true ! last time I went to doc h e tried to convince me to come yearly, I said no. He said well, I can 't blame you , docs can kill you. So at least he was honest !
that is how life is supposed to be ! Only go to doc when you can't help yourself anymore, and do as much as you can yourself. Great life Sturmudgeon ! I hope you make it to 100 in good health
I think it depends on generation. Older foreign-born Americans (esp. from the war generations like my parents) are generally: more educated as to facts and history, more appreciative of free society, and more skeptical of perfect government authority.
One does not get that impression of the younger generations, at least from afar.
Ie. it does not seem that we are seeing much public skepticism out of Europe, from the outside. In terms of vax #s, support for intrusive government, etc.
Some anecdotes imply portions of the regulatory apparatus may be functioning better elsewhere (e.g. Sweden, Denmark, Japan) but not seemingly at an EU level.
As to the nature of remedies, you may be right in the sense that Americans inherited a great sense of industrial-scientific optimism from the 50's. Now there is still that neophilia with all the techno-BS and post-humanism... do you think it is worse in America? I am not sure.
PS. I realize we may be getting bad data... e.g. to learn about the Dutch protests here, you had to look specifically in alternative sources. And the events in China are an eye-opener.
"Foreign born" is not all the same. As a member of a group of covid sceptical medical practitioners here in New Zealand, I am struck by the disproportionate number of members from formerly communist countries - well used to distrust of authority and the need for self sufficiency.
The Chinese Communist Party has a long reach. Many people in New Zealand of Chinese origin have well-grounded reason to be fearful of criticising the PRC, particularly those who have relatives still in China. I expect it is much the same in the US.
I saw a professionally painted van yesterday in my small town,something about Swahili and how this organization provides Welcome Services and a list of about a dozen social services specifically for Swahili.
I thought Swahili was a language, but this organization makes it appear they are a single people, so I guess I was wrong.
It's just weird, we are barely 50K, but we have a bit of everyone, from all over the world and it's more the Satanic Sunday Churches than the government behind it.
We even have a large Burmese population, they were our first, courtesy the Lutherans.
Even the standard classes were better. Both my parents learned Latin and higher maths , neither was even offered in my high school, and for my parents, these classes were required for graduation.
I knew someone who graduated in 1969. He worked in a restaurant, and had to ask me which can of soup was bean with bacon and which was mushroom.
He couldn't even figure out that bean starts with b and mushroom starts with m.
I graduated H.S. in 1967. When I was in high school there were definitely more than a few "slow learner" type kids who needed special classes....they were called "Bonehead English" and "Bonehead Math". People did not automatically graduate from high school and I remember more than a few kids who did not graduate. Some of them later got a GED, others never bothered. Now, however, illiterate kids graduate and some of them get into a local Community two-year college, and they have to take basic, non-credit English and math courses in an attempt to learn the basics that they did not learn in high school. Not everyone, maybe not even most kids should go to college. They should learn a practical skill instead.
I am European born and yes, we have a lot more home remedies than most americans do. Specially Germans who have Bach blossoms, Kneipp baths etc. It is going away there too, because I have to tell my family there to use honey for colds etc. they have all but forgotten
A long time ago, Germany used to have the best, or one of the best, medicinal plant research programme in the world, and the best herbariums and botanical departments.
All of this knowledge is getting lost, as drugs are "synthesized", losing the essential properties that plants, mushrooms, lichens bring when they are consumed as a whole, and which can never be replicated.
The day that I see a doctor recommending eating, a drink a concoction of a plant leaves, root, or flower, I will believe that medicine is back.
I believe that in Tibet, Nepal, Buthan doctors MUST learn the art of healing with local plants. This is the way to go.
I saw a doc recently about Chinese doctors. their healers all have to study regular med too, which I think is good as well. One of them showed how he treated a broken leg with herbs, but he also had an Xray on which he saw where the broken bone was. I think all docs should study both. Most Western docs learn little or nothing (US) about even food ! How can they treat indigestion if they don't know about food ?
It is clear that some conditions are of "mechanical" nature.
Factures, occlusions, etc. fall in this category.
For those, x-rays, MRI and so on are useful, as well as the various devices that are in use to fix them.
When it comes to "non-mechanical" conditions, such as viral and bacterial infections, etc. I firmly believe we have lost thousands of years of knowledge in a few decennia.
This is true: Ireland has grave dirt from a Priest's grave who was a healer in life.
As he was dying, he consoled his flock, saying the dirt from his grave would heal them.
An Irish scientist working at a University in Wales tested the grave dirt and it was found to be so very powerful, it kills flesh eating bacteria, which is difficult to kill with existing antibiotics.
The grave is in Fermanagh, and the rule is you must return the dirt when it has done it's job, because of course it is a finite resource.
When the writer asked the scientist if he returned the dirt, he responded that there is no point in taking unnecessary risks and he was not going to risk the curse unnecessarily.
I guess you have have to be Irish to understand it, but I wouldn't risk it, either.
good. I think many things due to the 'scientists' have been discarded as superstition. This is just one of them. Chinese docs still work with Qi, and one declared in a youtube film, we don't know how it works and we don't ask, we just know it does. The world is full of Wonders if you just take the time to look !
When I was young, I went to play at the neighbor's swing set. 2 older boys (Junior High age) lived down the street and I was their 8 year old "pet." They dared me to leap off the swing after I got good and high - which I did. I knocked the wind out of myself, which scared me, but they told me what I'd done - and after a few minutes, I was totally fine. I never did that again, though. LOL
This is definitely a "mixed bag" issue, similar to the seat belt one.
Like you, I survived with none of those protections, but a not-insignificant number did not. Many thousands of people die from traumatic brain injuries every year as a result of falls (or getting knocked down) and something as common as tripping over a crack in the sidewalk, or even tripping over a pet, can result in death.
I was grown up before seat belts were installed in cars, and then didn't use them for years after that, and obviously survived. I still don't much for low-speed local trips (not many cars around here). However, some years back I witnessed a horrible and gory car rollover incident where the driver was halfway thrown out of his car (through the open driver's window) and squashed when his car rolled on him. I stopped to render assistance, but there was nothing we could do. If he had been wearing his seat belt he almost certainly would have survived.
And what about pedestrians. What if they are knocked over by a helmet wearing bicyclist or a multi airbag protected driver of an suv. Surely it is time to mandate helmets for pedestrians too to protect them.
Sigh..context is everything..they are talking about risk overall on pushbikes for kids in earlier years..go back and read the comments..yes..truisms and tautologies are needed from you..because they are brilliant...Your even trying to argue over the term "push bike"?..jesus weeps are you a lttle special.....here ya go from the dictionary...A push bike is a bicycle which you move by turning the pedals with your feet.collins dictionary....your welcome..
A decade ago, while sitting in Central Park (NYC) reading a book, whereupon right in front of me, a young boy about age 6 riding a bicycle, slowly with his father, tumbled over having lost his balance. Of course, he was wearing a bike helmet. Long story short, an ambulance arrived, and the poor kid was strapped to a backboard, placed on the gurney, and into the ambulance for a trip to the hospital.
As you did, I've wondered about the psychological effect. My father would've picked me up, brushed me off, and we'd be on our way. Sans bike helmet, in those days.
There are studies that show this type of toxic coddling creates a neurotic child that grows into a neurotic adult, who truly believes the world is always a dangerous place. But most controlled journals will not publish this sort of study.
Heck, as a kid we put mercury compounds on our scrapes, called merthiolate.
Ha ha....I remember merthiolate! My mom always had a little bottle of it....it had a glass dropper thing on it and you pulled it out of the little vial and tapped the end of it on the wound. It burned like heck!
A psychology off fear, anxiety, neuroticism, and introversion, is being implanted in children. This is at the expense of self-efficacy, openness to experience, goal achievement, and extraversion. Deficits in these qualities leads to impossibility of achieving Self-Actualization, i.e., development of the Self. It leads to learned helplessness, and belief in an external locus of control over our lives. A life that ordered, structured, and under our own control is a basic psychological need for happiness and emotional health. Crash helmets, masks, school closures, social distancing, and lockdowns are weapons in the psychological war being waged upon children.
Allowing children to test their limits in unstructured play, according to the American Association of Pediatrics, "develop[s] their imagination, dexterity, and physical, cognitive, and emotional strength." Scrapes and bruises are how children learn their limits, and the need to take personal responsibility.
You can never engineer all of the danger out of life, what kind of life would that be?
Playgrounds were originally developed as a place in which children could be (not seriously) injured while playing, in order to teach them life-lessons.
There is quite a continuum between reckless and coddled. Part of the job of a parent is to teach children how to take adequate precautions & deal properly with risks they might encounter. (Not looking at your phone while riding might be one example.)
We teach our kids how to safely cross a road & assess traffic, how to swim, how to navigate their way around the area (using public transport in a city, bikes etc in a more rural area).
Wearing a helmet while riding a bike, using a seatbelt in a car, & other precautions might be considered appropriate (along with other things that were ignored when I was a kid) - but let's face it, there is a societal swing these days towards safety as some sort of goal in itself, not just as part of a risk management strategy in living a life.
When my parents were living with us, we got the flu vax. I continued even after my dad passed and my mom went into assisted living. After all this COVID vaccine nonsense and subsequent info coming out about all the childhood vaccines, I quit. No more for me. Not even for shingles or pneumonia. It's really all about Big Pharma getting rich.
I took a couple flu shots when my former employer had vaccination campaigns. Later, I took a couple more when I had kids and the pediatrician insisted we must have them to keep our babies safe... Thank goodness we stopped listening after 2014.
I'm so thankful for a mom who assiduously studied Adele Davis in the 1960s. We kids always took Vit C, E, D3, E, and numerous other vitamins as needed. I'm always amazed to meet people who have next to zero knowledge about taking vitamins.
Many years ago I did take one flu shot, and three days later came down with the flu! Enough of that nonsense!
I am highly suspicious that mass flu-shot injection of the elderly is one factor (and probably a big one) of the enormous increase in Alzheimer’s cases. All flu shots contain brain-damaging adjuvants: either mercury or aluminum. And widespread exposure to fluoride (especially from municipal water systems) highly potentiates the neurotoxic effects of alumunum from shots. The brain inflammation the adjuvants cause is very long-lasting, well over a year from each one, so annual shots keep the brain permanently in a state of deterioration.
My mom (a farm girl from East Texas) lived to 95 and took no prescriptions ever AND she had all her own teeth! Lifelong healthy eater of natural home cooked foods and an advocate of taking vitamins. My grandmother reached 99, and her 3 sisters all lived into their mid 90's.
Both my late parents had dementia and it started at the same time for both of them. They had been getting annual flu shots for decades. I’ve suspected it was from the flu shots.
My mother died 3 years ago. She LOVED her doctor appointments! She submitted to every test/screening/vaccine. However, she refused prescription medications, arguing for a surgical treatment if one was available. Her doctors complied.
In the last five years of her life, she had four surgeries.
She died of anesthesia-induced dementia. She was 84.
I’m so sorry, RioRosie. Most folks don’t realize the dangers of general anesthesia, especially repeated doses/cumulative effect. Our ‘health care delivery system’ is a travesty.
I'm sorry. My late Mom soldiered on after both hips being replaced due to arthritis. She was on one drug for that (Celebrex) and another for blood thinning. Her own Doctor told her when she had trouble breathing to get to the hospital. Mom's own Doctor apparently didn't have "privileges" there - so another Dr. took charge. He immediately removed her from the blood thinners ("she doesn't need it for her irregular heartbeat") and Mom had a massive bleed in her head, was dead 4 days later. NO doctors have all the answers.
Our family has had horrendous luck, much like yours. Many years ago, Mom's Mom went into the hospital for bowel surgery - they gave her a hysterectomy at the same time. She never knew until she tried to get pregnant a couple of years later. Apparently, that was "common" in the 1930s.
CMCM: Think about how general anesthesia works. It completely separates the mind from the body...how else could a person not feel or remember being cut open and operated on? There has to be a price to pay for it. So, if say, a young person with a healthy brain has surgery, the damage to their brain isn’t really noticeable. But repeated general anesthesia can have a cumulative effect. Elderly folks who already have cognitive issues are surely more susceptible to further damage. When my daughter learned about anesthesia in nursing school, they told her that they ‘don’t know’ why general anesthesia works. The way I look at it is, ‘there’s no such thing as a free lunch’. All one can do is try to avoid surgery, if at all possible.
Part of my mother's problem is no one would admit she had cognitive problems. I noticed it--repeated minor fender-benders, repeating herself. She'd call Dad at work four times in two hours--with the same message.
Dad & my brother wouldn't listen to me. (Brother: "STFU.")
We'd never heard of "anesthesia-induced dementia" until the real bad episode after the first surgery (Aug. 2018).
Then she insisted on the colostomy reversal. She & Dad convinced the doctor she'd completely recovered from the "reaction" to the August surgery. I pitched a fit! "DO NOT LIE TO DOCTORS!" Again, "STFU."
It seems to be a side effect of anesthesia, especially among elderly persons who have some initially mild cognitive problems.
Think of a scale of 1 to 10 (10 = no cognitive problems). My mother was at about an 8. Aug. 2018 she had a colostomy. Following surgery she was a 6 but improved to about a 7. Then, four months later (Dec. 2018) she had the colostomy reversed, and was about a 5.
That's when she was admitted to a "memory care" home. She began to have serious mobility issues and needed more & more assistance with living.
In Nov. 2019, she fell, broke a finger, and died six weeks later, Dec. 2019.
You need to do MANY online searches because everyone thinks "dementia" = Alzheimer's disease.
We had good doctors, especially the psychiatrists. I had an intensive education.
Please substitute your state's criminal law codes, disseminate and act in all procedures, send me a copy with the penal codes similar to these Italians
I hate these people beyond reason and can find no way to sympathize, empathize, or otherwise find any common human ground with them. I would like to be rid of these mad dishonest hypochondriacs once and for all.
I did take your advise and now I have an over supply of artillery ammo .I could send some to the Russians ,but that could mean trading with the enemy .
But Ingrid I always thought if you take covid jabs it may close your eyes permanently ,not open them . But it's your hair not mine ,did he make a mess of your hair before the jabs ,with closed eyes ??
so far he seems to be okay, he has not suffered any adverse events. Now I come to think of it, since he took the jabs my hair looks better !!!! LOL I wonder if he probably had a saline jab?
I have struggled with just this - the lockdowns, isolation, and masking endlessly nearly destroyed my daughter. Watching her suffer makes me angry beyond words. But we cannot hate. We can be angry and that anger should spur us to action - speaking out, holding our ground, trying to flip those that can be reached. But to hate puts us in the same category as the covidians that wished death on us for choosing not to be injected. We are better than that and should strive to show it. Hard though it may be.
Very true. Hate turns sour and makes you sick. Anger can be put to work to make things better. I am not hateful nor even angry, but those that treated me like a leper will not be friends anymore. Thanks to this whole mess I found out they are not friends for real, and met several others, who are now my friends. Out of bad comes good, and that is how it should be.
I'm constantly reminded of a Dennis Prager quote: "Humanity sucks, but there are a few good people." The last couple of years I've realized who many of the good people are.
I've noted that there's a certain segment of society that believes that illness--ANY illness--is completely avoidable.
These are the runners, the compulsive exercise enthusiasts, and the diet fanatics. (They are the ones who lecture about the annual Coca-Cola or semi-annual chocolate chip cookie.)
To be sure: it's GOOD to exercise. It's GOOD to eat a sensible diet. It's GOOD to take reasonable precautions (hand washing at the very least).
But this group of neurotics seem to believe that ALL illnesses are preventable. And if they employ these techniques they'll achieve immortality.
And these are the people who believe the nonsense spewed by the quacks cited in this report.
Here's my observation: EVERYONE will get sick at some point in their lives. And....drum-roll please...
And honestly, that's a good thing. Do you really want to work in a crappy job forever? Or be forced to live in substandard housing? Or... exist in poverty for 100+ years?
or become 100 like a friend of mine did, in a wheelchair, blind and almost deaf, and unable to help yourself? I think I want quality of life, not quantity. I am not for euthanasia, but I would want 'help' to be stopped when life has no qualitly anymore (and wonder if that is still 'help' when you are hooked up to all kinds of machines and kept alive with 25 meds)
I wish to die in my sleep ,like the lucky ones ,but what I wish and what I get are two different things ,we must take what we get . Don't go to a hospital you may regret it ,if you live to tell the tel .
Last year, my father (age 92) had covid. He was more frightened of going to the hospital than he was of the virus. He was afraid he'd die alone. I kept him home, lots of fluids., vitamin D, zinc...and he recovered just fine.
I think I got it the next week. (I wouldn't test. What bullshit!) I was fine in 2 days. Then my brother--same "protocol." He was fine in 3 days.
This thread reminds me of an old joke, definitely non-pc; the comic thought the best way to die would be getting shot in the back by a jealous husband, in the act. lol
I caught the flu a few years ago, after airline travel around Christmas. It sucked but I was still able to manage my two large, young and unruly dogs and some cats, too. No one starved and the dogs got outside to exercise and eliminate when they needed it. I felt crappy but it wasn’t a death sentence and I was able to fulfill my daily household tasks. People are terrified for little reason.
i think you are right. For most people, specially in the city but also here in rural place, life has become meaningless unless they can go to the doc, where they are looked at, sometimes even praised, where they are someone. They have lost all contact with nature, with growing things, with nurturing things. Poor people they are, even though they are way richer than me.
I had flu 2 years close together, about 15 and 17 years ago. I took some over the counter (my late hubby and I were on the road) and it went away in 4 days. Haven't been sick since. I recently read that if you have it twice so short together you get some kind of cross over immunity (different strands of virus) which is probably right.
I had the flu... years and years ago. in the 70's. I was in nursing school.
I did miss a few days because I couldn't walk😂😂😂
Seriously, I was so feverish and sickly, I had to crawl around the house, to the bathroom, and kitchen. It was crazy. I did have to recover quickly, so I could return to school
Yes. It sure is. But, tell that to the folks who are never late for a screening and take every med prescribed without question. I had an acquaintance whose sister in law developed ovarian cancer. The acquaintance told me that it was the SIL’s fault because she had skipped a year at the gynecologist. This person thinks all this s*** guarantees her an infinite life.
excellent point RioRosie. Especially Americans, but I know some Europeans like that too, who believe if you take enough meds and supplements you will never get sick. Some eat only organic (very hard to get here in rural GA) and drive 2 hours to get 'better' stuff, forgetting all the car exhaust they breathe while driving LOL. And yes, we all live till we die. People forget that too.
The question for me still revolves around what an illness is. Is it something you catch or contract or is it your body working from inside trying to expel toxins?
Our immune system is miraculous, and it is strengthened by occasionally getting sick. I do believe that in most cases you can do things so that when you do inevitably get sick here and there, it's mild and then you are stronger for it. If you are healthy because you eat in a good way and don't poison your body with obviously bad things, I do think you can avoid a lot of chronic illness.
Like your father, I use a linen handkerchief (far softer and pleasanter on the nose than paper) only wash my hands when they are soiled, and then with water only. I haven't used soap or shampoo for over four years, and my skin is much the better for it (I am 72). It was the pushing of hand sanitiser and contactless payments that first alerted me to the absurdity of covidmania.
you can be too clean, and these people get even more sick than the somewhat 'dirtier' ones. Hanky lover here too. And dad, almost 89, seldom washes hands. Comes out of garden and eats without washing. Strawberries right out of the garden taste better than washed ones !
That proves the science is in ,washing is deadly ,I always suspected that . The good things in life are often not how they look ,but how they taste . My wife says I'm sweet and I don't want to wash that off .
I lived in Denver for 18 yrs. When I go back to visit pot smoke is everywhere and people walking down the street smoking openly which is NOT legal but they all do it. I can’t stand it.
We visited Denver a couple years ago and virtually every service person we dealt with seemed to be high. “Sorry, no BLT’s...we’re out of tomatoes” ordered a hamburger that came with a tomato slice. I guess they were just out of the BLT tomatoes? Tamales smothered in green chili but with the wrappers left on...the hotel clerks, Beavis and Butthead, in the smoking area outside giggling like little girls. I could go on but you get the picture...we decided we’d take our tourism $$ elsewhere in the future.
We live in a media universe that catastrophizes everything. Weather? Remember when the forecast was just the forecast and storms came and went? Now every single weather event is a potential life-ending event wrapped in the shroud of Climate Change. All sectors of media are dependent on click bait "we're all gonna die" headlines because the whole business model is dependent on selling advertisements.
It isn't just the media. I was on a train platform on a pleasant evening last spring. It must have been about 20 degrees Celcius - I was wearing a light jacket, I recall. Over the tannoy came an anouncement warning us to stay hydrated in this hot weather. Now I don't know if this is the train company being hyper-cautious and trying to keep its insurance premiums down, or just general hysteria, but this constant concern for my health is likely to give me a stroke!
a while ago a blogger compared weather programs from a few years ago, with about the same weather as now, and the pleasant temperatures from a while back were now red colored and HIGH. People are getting crazier is all
In that vein, I'm reading Matt Taibbi's book "Hate Inc." He describes the commercialization of journalism from the inside. I thought I was cynical before… Highly recommended.
Ugh. I’ve been hearing and reading smatterings of this...this using the ‘lessons’ from COVID to aggressively combat other viruses. 🙄
“Arguments that the young and healthy should be spared these burdens, as they are little risk of dying from flu, will be shot out of the sky by vague appeals to Long Influenza.” <- Perhaps these “experts” have a bad case of Long Stupidity.”
We must fight the aspirations of these would-be micro-tyrants with everything we’ve got. Otherwise, things will rapidly descend into further darkness & privation.
What should we combat first whyrusses or walrusses and then there are also the ruskies . Micro tyrants don't exist, there are only mega tyrants . I did not hear much about Hitler lately ,are they hiding another disaster ,or would it be good news?
Micro-tyrants do exist...one example would be my sister-in-law whose name begins with C (I say that just in case my OTHER sisters-in-law get on here and think I’m referring to them). While she can’t wreak havoc on a nation or on a global scale, she can definitely cause upheaval in a community. 😂😂😂
One wonders why the MSM are so gleefully covering the China protests when China is their model.
A prediction: China will relax its measures and suddenly dashboards and such will appear demonstrating vast increases in "covid" deaths timed perfectly to the relaxation of measures.
Related, obviously never trusted a single piece of information coming out of China, but one has to wonder if they really did avoid waves of infection while it was ravaging the west? I'd assumed it was basically swept under the carpet. Now not so sure, but since the entire thing is basically a propaganda shitshow we will probably never know.
The key piece of the puzzle, I think, is just the vastly lower rates of transmission and mortality for pre-Omicron SARS-2 in the whole Asia-Pacific. About an order of magnitude lower than in the West. Through 2021 it really was an infection you could easily overlook.
I feel for you actually reading this garbage -- it makes me feel ill just reading your account of it. It's amazing how stupid ideas can actually manifest as physical symptoms of pain....
Back in 2020 I told a colleague something that bears repeating. “Now that they’ve figured out they can do this to you, they’re going to keep on doing it to you.”
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
The way people scrambled to “shelter in place” (gag), “mask up” (barf) and “social distance” (I can’t even stand it any more) in March 2020 surely delighted our public health overlords. It was all so much easier than Fauci’s wildest lockdown wet dream.
Wow. Just wow. What the covid cult should have learned is that flu-like approaches are ineffective. In fact, these lessons, learned in studying flu for decades, and written down in the WHO's "influenza guidance," went directly against the NPI's and other shibboleths of the covid narrative. And yet, here we are, with media and journalists saying exactly the opposite, with a straight face. *FacePalm*
So, they're piggybacking on the Covid Craze hoping it might lead them too new green pastures of funding and prestige. Yay. Aren't we lucky.
Looking around, however, I agree with Eugyppius' assessment that people are not going to let themselves be led into a new flu craze. Everybody is exhausted, almost nobody wants to mask up or hear Lauterbach speak once more, and there is so much backtracking from Covidians ("I was against school closures from the beginning!", "I always felt that the interests of children and young people...", "Mistakes have been made.") that even the most naive and credulous German must have groked that maybe, just maybe, they fucked up the response to Covid the teeniest bit.
I really hope that optimism is justified. I've heard some of my neighbors say they're going to keep wearing a mask even after Covid is over with, because colds and flu.
If you point out one can just stay home if sick, there is glaring.
Interesting situation currently here in Northern California. A respiratory something or other is spreading like wildfire. Kids in the schools have it, teachers have it. My daughter works as a nurse in a Nursing/Rehab facility and it is sweeping through the elderly population there. But no covid testing is going on, people are seemingly treating it as the cold that it is. My daughter got it...was coughing a lot, had a slight fever. I mixed up a batch of Dr. McCullough's recipe for a povidone-iodine nasal and throat spray and took it over to her, and directed her to also take the recommended vitamins C, zinc, D3, quercetin and a few others. Within a day it turned around considerably and now on day 3 she is almost completely better. Others she knows who seem to have caught the same thing have been sickly for almost 2 weeks. She put the word out and a great many of her friends are begging for the povidone-iodine and vitamin information! I'm actually surprised all this has worked so well given the fact that she didn't start using these things early....the illness had already taken hold somewhat. I tried to find Dr. McCullough's original video about why the nasal spray works so well, but Twitter apparently banned it a long time ago. The fools.
This is very interesting information, thanks - I'll keep it in mind the next time we catch COVID! Here in Germany, a sizeable part of the population keep testing when they feel sick, so what's spreading here is definitely not covid. We have lots of sick kids right now, at the school I have ties to 1/5th of the student population are at home sick. Some covid cases, but the overwhelming majority doesn't have covid.
So apparently euthanasia is "in" and promoted, but we must go to extreme lengths to protect fragile elderly people whose bodies are just waiting for the next medical insult to give in to death. There are things worse than death.
Recent news out of Canada about euthanasia is distressing to me. I think someone with a fatal illness like ALS or Alzheimer's should have that option. But it should be carefully regulated so as not to be abused by opportunistic family members, for example (yes I read a lot of Agatha Christie).
Of course the sudden spate of new stories about this makes me suspicious of ulterior motives etc. Sigh, it's tiring to be so cynical.
My daughter's best friend had been in remission for colon cancer since 2019, but not long after her 2 Pfizer shots in 2021 and later a booster, the cancer roared back and spread everywhere and was at Stage 4 when re-diagnosed in January. She has gone steadily downhill since then and is in very bad shape now. Doctors didn't expect her to last even until Christmas. My daughter today told me this woman is deciding now which day this coming week she will take the cocktail to end her life. This is in California, so I guess it's legal here now.
Having finished treatment for a breast cancer blip in December 2019, I've been keeping a close eye on this kind of news. I stupidly got the first Moderna shots, but no boosters.
So sorry to hear about your daughter's friend. It does seem amazing that in California you can choose to self-euthanize, yet a doctor can lose their license for, possibly, recommending low carb for diabetes.
If what they're calling 'long flu' symptoms is real, then what we just witnessed as long covid is the same thing! Covid was the flu that mysteriously disappeared during supposed 'covid'? He who develops the tests controls the narrative. And remember, the tests picked up fragments of anything cold/flu/virus whatever. Wonder how many ppl were taken advantage of by the test kits? That is why the govt sent them to every household free?? To turn the masses into hypocondriacs. Matters not what they really contracted, they simply had their virtue signaling test result to prove their victimhood. Everyone wants to be a victim these days. Remember the days when you got sick and you simply stayed home and doctored yourself and got well and resumed life? No one cared what they had or needed a label to show to the world. It simply an identity crisis, ppl do not have an identity of their own, they are looking for external gratification and approval. A never ending black hole and a sure fire way to get taken advantage of. You act like a victim and you're gonna get what you wish for, to be victimized.
You're right--many people enjoyed the hell out of being victims and also playing "science" jabbing swabs up their nostrils and wearing snot-filled masks!
'the tests picked up fragments of anything cold/flu/virus whatever. Wonder how many ppl were taken advantage of by the test kits? That is why the govt sent them to every household free?'
It doesn't affect your argument, but it looks like your conflating PCR testing with rapid antibody testing. Two different things.
I believe the inventor of the pcr test himself said they're not dependable and can be cranked up so high that they'll show anything you want them to be.
That would be Kary Mullis, who actually won the Nobel prize for that. I read his book, Dancing in the Mind Field, which was excellent. So sad that he died right before Covid – it would be really interesting to see his take on developments.
"People like Iwasaki, the journalists who print her statements, and the politicians who pay attention to her research, all represent a grave, long-term danger to basic human well-being."
Harming people psychologically is their goal. They want people to be damaged, so they can't/won't fight back.
How on earth did mankind ever survive without the aid of our benevolent health experts? We should have been extinct many thousands of years ago.
I’m not that old, nor am I young...65...and I have never taken a flu shot in my life and have zero intentions of ever getting one. Common sense, at least a moderately healthy lifestyle and selected vitamin and other supplements go a long way to confounding the wishes of our Evil Overlords that we all live in fear, and a goodly number of us perish, at these invisible menaces.
Agree. I'm 70 (August) and decades ago, a physician told me to take Vitamin D. (She was foreign-born.) Since that time, I have not had a cold, no flu of any kind since 1984. Americans are brainwashed into thinking a pill or vaccine will prevent illness, when a lot of it is mindfulness about being healthy and not making stupid decisions.
In my lifetime, "tv" ads went from over-the-counter aids like Geritol or Tums to now, hard drugs to "ask your doctor about." America doesn't give a crap about you being healthy. That's up to you and your family.
American Health'care' wants you to live very unhealthy so you become a chronic patient and take lots of poisons that make you sicker and even more doc dependant ! Foreign born here too, and doing herbal and homeopathic since I was a teenager because do almost poisoned me ! once bitten twice shy
This is true. I am a Family Nurse practitioner and now specialize in de-prescribing. I was at a conference once and they had a class teaching you how to tether your patients to your practice. My hope with my practice is to help patients learn to live a healthy life so they don't need me!!! My. views were not popular in the clinic setting so I moved on!
we need lots more like you ! thank you for doing this !
American business model for "Care ": Acute, and then hopefully, Chronic. Yikes! It's awful.
Under pre British Irish Law, no physician is owed anything unless he has effected a cure. Nothing, zero!
Pizza, BLTs, and pancakes.
Will cure what ails you.
You and Rick are mere youngsters. 87 here, never had a shot of any kind since I was a child, have never seen a doctor for other than broken bones that I couldn't fix myself.... still gather, buck, and split our firewood, etc.. rural living helps, as it demands excercise... on NO medication... take supplements, and drink lots of water. The 'experts' can practice peeing up a rope.
I studied a bit, years ago, about where and how the biggest pockets of centenarians live. Easy going lifestyles, healthy food, social structure, spirituality were all among the common traits. But another was that they weren’t hypochondriacs, for sure. Many never went to doctors except, like you mentioned, for acute care. I recall one man in his 80’s that had just recently visited a doctor for the first time due to a bad cut he received doing some sort of connstruction work.
I, likewise, don’t subscribe to the “yearly checkup” thing. It’s been 15 years since I’ve seen a doctor, and getting close to 40 years since my last “checkup”. 😂🤷♂️. All I know is both my parents went to doctors often, and both died taking lots of prescription drugs that likely didn’t extend their days on Earth by a minute. Healthy diet is our first best medicine.
totally true ! last time I went to doc h e tried to convince me to come yearly, I said no. He said well, I can 't blame you , docs can kill you. So at least he was honest !
that is how life is supposed to be ! Only go to doc when you can't help yourself anymore, and do as much as you can yourself. Great life Sturmudgeon ! I hope you make it to 100 in good health
Yes they can.!!! Everything we need is already here on Earth.
Peeing up a rope. I love that phrase. Haha
Congratulations. I'm jealous of your life style.
There's no money to be made from people being healthy.
Astute observation Alan. I suspect you have accurately identified the driving force behind our headlong societal demise.
Exactly.
A car at my music school has a Bumper Snicker:
Ask your doctor if taking medical advice from TV ads is right for you!
I think it depends on generation. Older foreign-born Americans (esp. from the war generations like my parents) are generally: more educated as to facts and history, more appreciative of free society, and more skeptical of perfect government authority.
One does not get that impression of the younger generations, at least from afar.
Ie. it does not seem that we are seeing much public skepticism out of Europe, from the outside. In terms of vax #s, support for intrusive government, etc.
Some anecdotes imply portions of the regulatory apparatus may be functioning better elsewhere (e.g. Sweden, Denmark, Japan) but not seemingly at an EU level.
As to the nature of remedies, you may be right in the sense that Americans inherited a great sense of industrial-scientific optimism from the 50's. Now there is still that neophilia with all the techno-BS and post-humanism... do you think it is worse in America? I am not sure.
PS. I realize we may be getting bad data... e.g. to learn about the Dutch protests here, you had to look specifically in alternative sources. And the events in China are an eye-opener.
"Foreign born" is not all the same. As a member of a group of covid sceptical medical practitioners here in New Zealand, I am struck by the disproportionate number of members from formerly communist countries - well used to distrust of authority and the need for self sufficiency.
The Chinese Communist Party has a long reach. Many people in New Zealand of Chinese origin have well-grounded reason to be fearful of criticising the PRC, particularly those who have relatives still in China. I expect it is much the same in the US.
I saw a professionally painted van yesterday in my small town,something about Swahili and how this organization provides Welcome Services and a list of about a dozen social services specifically for Swahili.
I thought Swahili was a language, but this organization makes it appear they are a single people, so I guess I was wrong.
It's just weird, we are barely 50K, but we have a bit of everyone, from all over the world and it's more the Satanic Sunday Churches than the government behind it.
We even have a large Burmese population, they were our first, courtesy the Lutherans.
Even the standard classes were better. Both my parents learned Latin and higher maths , neither was even offered in my high school, and for my parents, these classes were required for graduation.
I knew someone who graduated in 1969. He worked in a restaurant, and had to ask me which can of soup was bean with bacon and which was mushroom.
He couldn't even figure out that bean starts with b and mushroom starts with m.
But he was a high school grad.
I graduated H.S. in 1967. When I was in high school there were definitely more than a few "slow learner" type kids who needed special classes....they were called "Bonehead English" and "Bonehead Math". People did not automatically graduate from high school and I remember more than a few kids who did not graduate. Some of them later got a GED, others never bothered. Now, however, illiterate kids graduate and some of them get into a local Community two-year college, and they have to take basic, non-credit English and math courses in an attempt to learn the basics that they did not learn in high school. Not everyone, maybe not even most kids should go to college. They should learn a practical skill instead.
I am European born and yes, we have a lot more home remedies than most americans do. Specially Germans who have Bach blossoms, Kneipp baths etc. It is going away there too, because I have to tell my family there to use honey for colds etc. they have all but forgotten
A long time ago, Germany used to have the best, or one of the best, medicinal plant research programme in the world, and the best herbariums and botanical departments.
All of this knowledge is getting lost, as drugs are "synthesized", losing the essential properties that plants, mushrooms, lichens bring when they are consumed as a whole, and which can never be replicated.
The day that I see a doctor recommending eating, a drink a concoction of a plant leaves, root, or flower, I will believe that medicine is back.
I believe that in Tibet, Nepal, Buthan doctors MUST learn the art of healing with local plants. This is the way to go.
I saw a doc recently about Chinese doctors. their healers all have to study regular med too, which I think is good as well. One of them showed how he treated a broken leg with herbs, but he also had an Xray on which he saw where the broken bone was. I think all docs should study both. Most Western docs learn little or nothing (US) about even food ! How can they treat indigestion if they don't know about food ?
It is clear that some conditions are of "mechanical" nature.
Factures, occlusions, etc. fall in this category.
For those, x-rays, MRI and so on are useful, as well as the various devices that are in use to fix them.
When it comes to "non-mechanical" conditions, such as viral and bacterial infections, etc. I firmly believe we have lost thousands of years of knowledge in a few decennia.
This is true: Ireland has grave dirt from a Priest's grave who was a healer in life.
As he was dying, he consoled his flock, saying the dirt from his grave would heal them.
An Irish scientist working at a University in Wales tested the grave dirt and it was found to be so very powerful, it kills flesh eating bacteria, which is difficult to kill with existing antibiotics.
The grave is in Fermanagh, and the rule is you must return the dirt when it has done it's job, because of course it is a finite resource.
When the writer asked the scientist if he returned the dirt, he responded that there is no point in taking unnecessary risks and he was not going to risk the curse unnecessarily.
I guess you have have to be Irish to understand it, but I wouldn't risk it, either.
It's the right thing to do, anyway.
good. I think many things due to the 'scientists' have been discarded as superstition. This is just one of them. Chinese docs still work with Qi, and one declared in a youtube film, we don't know how it works and we don't ask, we just know it does. The world is full of Wonders if you just take the time to look !
A friend of mine wonders how those of us of A Certain Age survived without bicycle helmets and knee pads.
To hear the talk, we should all be dead by now.
When I was young, I went to play at the neighbor's swing set. 2 older boys (Junior High age) lived down the street and I was their 8 year old "pet." They dared me to leap off the swing after I got good and high - which I did. I knocked the wind out of myself, which scared me, but they told me what I'd done - and after a few minutes, I was totally fine. I never did that again, though. LOL
This is definitely a "mixed bag" issue, similar to the seat belt one.
Like you, I survived with none of those protections, but a not-insignificant number did not. Many thousands of people die from traumatic brain injuries every year as a result of falls (or getting knocked down) and something as common as tripping over a crack in the sidewalk, or even tripping over a pet, can result in death.
I was grown up before seat belts were installed in cars, and then didn't use them for years after that, and obviously survived. I still don't much for low-speed local trips (not many cars around here). However, some years back I witnessed a horrible and gory car rollover incident where the driver was halfway thrown out of his car (through the open driver's window) and squashed when his car rolled on him. I stopped to render assistance, but there was nothing we could do. If he had been wearing his seat belt he almost certainly would have survived.
Okay..but the chat was about pushbikes and kids...
And what about pedestrians. What if they are knocked over by a helmet wearing bicyclist or a multi airbag protected driver of an suv. Surely it is time to mandate helmets for pedestrians too to protect them.
Sigh..context is everything..they are talking about risk overall on pushbikes for kids in earlier years..go back and read the comments..yes..truisms and tautologies are needed from you..because they are brilliant...Your even trying to argue over the term "push bike"?..jesus weeps are you a lttle special.....here ya go from the dictionary...A push bike is a bicycle which you move by turning the pedals with your feet.collins dictionary....your welcome..
Yep, I survived bicycles, roller skating, and monkey bars just fine. I never owned a helmet or knee pad.
A decade ago, while sitting in Central Park (NYC) reading a book, whereupon right in front of me, a young boy about age 6 riding a bicycle, slowly with his father, tumbled over having lost his balance. Of course, he was wearing a bike helmet. Long story short, an ambulance arrived, and the poor kid was strapped to a backboard, placed on the gurney, and into the ambulance for a trip to the hospital.
As you did, I've wondered about the psychological effect. My father would've picked me up, brushed me off, and we'd be on our way. Sans bike helmet, in those days.
There are studies that show this type of toxic coddling creates a neurotic child that grows into a neurotic adult, who truly believes the world is always a dangerous place. But most controlled journals will not publish this sort of study.
Heck, as a kid we put mercury compounds on our scrapes, called merthiolate.
Ha ha....I remember merthiolate! My mom always had a little bottle of it....it had a glass dropper thing on it and you pulled it out of the little vial and tapped the end of it on the wound. It burned like heck!
My dad would've spit on his hankie and used it to wipe my scraped knee or elbow.
End of story.
A psychology off fear, anxiety, neuroticism, and introversion, is being implanted in children. This is at the expense of self-efficacy, openness to experience, goal achievement, and extraversion. Deficits in these qualities leads to impossibility of achieving Self-Actualization, i.e., development of the Self. It leads to learned helplessness, and belief in an external locus of control over our lives. A life that ordered, structured, and under our own control is a basic psychological need for happiness and emotional health. Crash helmets, masks, school closures, social distancing, and lockdowns are weapons in the psychological war being waged upon children.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB121858701285435131
Allowing children to test their limits in unstructured play, according to the American Association of Pediatrics, "develop[s] their imagination, dexterity, and physical, cognitive, and emotional strength." Scrapes and bruises are how children learn their limits, and the need to take personal responsibility.
You can never engineer all of the danger out of life, what kind of life would that be?
Playgrounds were originally developed as a place in which children could be (not seriously) injured while playing, in order to teach them life-lessons.
I like your analysis... other than the 'off' word.
They also cannot handle criticism, questioning or any sort of failure.
If you spent any amount of time with my twenty-something son, your wondering would be validated!
There is quite a continuum between reckless and coddled. Part of the job of a parent is to teach children how to take adequate precautions & deal properly with risks they might encounter. (Not looking at your phone while riding might be one example.)
We teach our kids how to safely cross a road & assess traffic, how to swim, how to navigate their way around the area (using public transport in a city, bikes etc in a more rural area).
Wearing a helmet while riding a bike, using a seatbelt in a car, & other precautions might be considered appropriate (along with other things that were ignored when I was a kid) - but let's face it, there is a societal swing these days towards safety as some sort of goal in itself, not just as part of a risk management strategy in living a life.
When my parents were living with us, we got the flu vax. I continued even after my dad passed and my mom went into assisted living. After all this COVID vaccine nonsense and subsequent info coming out about all the childhood vaccines, I quit. No more for me. Not even for shingles or pneumonia. It's really all about Big Pharma getting rich.
Little by little, people will see
Yes. But, will ‘little by little’ be too late? I wish people would see more quickly.
Same
I took a couple flu shots when my former employer had vaccination campaigns. Later, I took a couple more when I had kids and the pediatrician insisted we must have them to keep our babies safe... Thank goodness we stopped listening after 2014.
When the marketing started, because Pharma saw a new revenue source.
Wisdom accompanies age - we can prevent illnesses by supplementing Vitamins,especially C, D3, and B and E, to name a few.
I'm so thankful for a mom who assiduously studied Adele Davis in the 1960s. We kids always took Vit C, E, D3, E, and numerous other vitamins as needed. I'm always amazed to meet people who have next to zero knowledge about taking vitamins.
Yes! Always with a scratchy or sore throat.
Many years ago I did take one flu shot, and three days later came down with the flu! Enough of that nonsense!
I am highly suspicious that mass flu-shot injection of the elderly is one factor (and probably a big one) of the enormous increase in Alzheimer’s cases. All flu shots contain brain-damaging adjuvants: either mercury or aluminum. And widespread exposure to fluoride (especially from municipal water systems) highly potentiates the neurotoxic effects of alumunum from shots. The brain inflammation the adjuvants cause is very long-lasting, well over a year from each one, so annual shots keep the brain permanently in a state of deterioration.
And older people tend to be on prescription drugs, lots of them. I’m 66 and know many people my age taking at least one. I take none of it and won’t.
My mom (a farm girl from East Texas) lived to 95 and took no prescriptions ever AND she had all her own teeth! Lifelong healthy eater of natural home cooked foods and an advocate of taking vitamins. My grandmother reached 99, and her 3 sisters all lived into their mid 90's.
I bet most if not all of the people who get to their 90s are not taking any prescription drugs.
Both my late parents had dementia and it started at the same time for both of them. They had been getting annual flu shots for decades. I’ve suspected it was from the flu shots.
My mother died 3 years ago. She LOVED her doctor appointments! She submitted to every test/screening/vaccine. However, she refused prescription medications, arguing for a surgical treatment if one was available. Her doctors complied.
In the last five years of her life, she had four surgeries.
She died of anesthesia-induced dementia. She was 84.
I’m so sorry, RioRosie. Most folks don’t realize the dangers of general anesthesia, especially repeated doses/cumulative effect. Our ‘health care delivery system’ is a travesty.
I knew NOTHING about anesthesia-induced dementia. I've learned a lot since then.
The most important knowledge I've gained is that I now consider "medical advice" to be a suggestion.
I'm sorry. My late Mom soldiered on after both hips being replaced due to arthritis. She was on one drug for that (Celebrex) and another for blood thinning. Her own Doctor told her when she had trouble breathing to get to the hospital. Mom's own Doctor apparently didn't have "privileges" there - so another Dr. took charge. He immediately removed her from the blood thinners ("she doesn't need it for her irregular heartbeat") and Mom had a massive bleed in her head, was dead 4 days later. NO doctors have all the answers.
Our family has had horrendous luck, much like yours. Many years ago, Mom's Mom went into the hospital for bowel surgery - they gave her a hysterectomy at the same time. She never knew until she tried to get pregnant a couple of years later. Apparently, that was "common" in the 1930s.
😳
Anesthesia-induced dementia? Whoa, I hadn't heard of that before!
CMCM: Think about how general anesthesia works. It completely separates the mind from the body...how else could a person not feel or remember being cut open and operated on? There has to be a price to pay for it. So, if say, a young person with a healthy brain has surgery, the damage to their brain isn’t really noticeable. But repeated general anesthesia can have a cumulative effect. Elderly folks who already have cognitive issues are surely more susceptible to further damage. When my daughter learned about anesthesia in nursing school, they told her that they ‘don’t know’ why general anesthesia works. The way I look at it is, ‘there’s no such thing as a free lunch’. All one can do is try to avoid surgery, if at all possible.
Part of my mother's problem is no one would admit she had cognitive problems. I noticed it--repeated minor fender-benders, repeating herself. She'd call Dad at work four times in two hours--with the same message.
Dad & my brother wouldn't listen to me. (Brother: "STFU.")
We'd never heard of "anesthesia-induced dementia" until the real bad episode after the first surgery (Aug. 2018).
Then she insisted on the colostomy reversal. She & Dad convinced the doctor she'd completely recovered from the "reaction" to the August surgery. I pitched a fit! "DO NOT LIE TO DOCTORS!" Again, "STFU."
The Dec. 2018 surgery pushed her over the edge.
I've had no comfort from "I told you so."
It seems to be a side effect of anesthesia, especially among elderly persons who have some initially mild cognitive problems.
Think of a scale of 1 to 10 (10 = no cognitive problems). My mother was at about an 8. Aug. 2018 she had a colostomy. Following surgery she was a 6 but improved to about a 7. Then, four months later (Dec. 2018) she had the colostomy reversed, and was about a 5.
That's when she was admitted to a "memory care" home. She began to have serious mobility issues and needed more & more assistance with living.
In Nov. 2019, she fell, broke a finger, and died six weeks later, Dec. 2019.
You need to do MANY online searches because everyone thinks "dementia" = Alzheimer's disease.
We had good doctors, especially the psychiatrists. I had an intensive education.
RioRosie, I’m so sorry. ❤️
Yes, a healthy person is totally less susceptible to coersion and manipulation.
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I hate these people beyond reason and can find no way to sympathize, empathize, or otherwise find any common human ground with them. I would like to be rid of these mad dishonest hypochondriacs once and for all.
I hardly every use the word hate.
I hate mean people
I hate calamari and clams
and I agree with your statement.
I hate these people too. They are evil.
I like clams. Otherwise your answer is perfect! ;)
I will take the calamari !
The calamari will be in your blood vessels if you do vaxxing .
no, not that kind. I want the REAL thing ! LOL
Buy ammo. Lots of ammo. It helps.
too bad the IRS bought all of it...
I did take your advise and now I have an over supply of artillery ammo .I could send some to the Russians ,but that could mean trading with the enemy .
I hate it when that happens.
unfortunately my hairdresser is a hypochondriac, but I think the covid jabs have opened his eyes. He talks a lot more sense recently
But Ingrid I always thought if you take covid jabs it may close your eyes permanently ,not open them . But it's your hair not mine ,did he make a mess of your hair before the jabs ,with closed eyes ??
so far he seems to be okay, he has not suffered any adverse events. Now I come to think of it, since he took the jabs my hair looks better !!!! LOL I wonder if he probably had a saline jab?
I have struggled with just this - the lockdowns, isolation, and masking endlessly nearly destroyed my daughter. Watching her suffer makes me angry beyond words. But we cannot hate. We can be angry and that anger should spur us to action - speaking out, holding our ground, trying to flip those that can be reached. But to hate puts us in the same category as the covidians that wished death on us for choosing not to be injected. We are better than that and should strive to show it. Hard though it may be.
Very true. Hate turns sour and makes you sick. Anger can be put to work to make things better. I am not hateful nor even angry, but those that treated me like a leper will not be friends anymore. Thanks to this whole mess I found out they are not friends for real, and met several others, who are now my friends. Out of bad comes good, and that is how it should be.
Look up Moliere. His ridicule of the medical professions is as true as ever despite technological advances, except that it's not funny anymore.
I always deeply detested out species. Now I have justification.
Beware. That attitude is more of them than it is of us. Their agenda feeds on anti humanism and elitism.
It is an exercise in self control not to detest stupidity I agree.
Good reminder, demeisen
I'm constantly reminded of a Dennis Prager quote: "Humanity sucks, but there are a few good people." The last couple of years I've realized who many of the good people are.
Homo sapiens f*ucked up. We must make a new start.
David it will help us to make a new start if we watch old movies of the three Stooges .
AMEN!!!! Bastards all.
Even the three Stooges??
If I ever visit the L.A. area, here are the places I would visit:
La Brea Tar Pits and Museum
L.A. County Museum of Art
The J. Paul Getty Museum
The gravesites of the Three Stooges (Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp)
I've noted that there's a certain segment of society that believes that illness--ANY illness--is completely avoidable.
These are the runners, the compulsive exercise enthusiasts, and the diet fanatics. (They are the ones who lecture about the annual Coca-Cola or semi-annual chocolate chip cookie.)
To be sure: it's GOOD to exercise. It's GOOD to eat a sensible diet. It's GOOD to take reasonable precautions (hand washing at the very least).
But this group of neurotics seem to believe that ALL illnesses are preventable. And if they employ these techniques they'll achieve immortality.
And these are the people who believe the nonsense spewed by the quacks cited in this report.
Here's my observation: EVERYONE will get sick at some point in their lives. And....drum-roll please...
Life is fatal.
No one here gets out alive.
And honestly, that's a good thing. Do you really want to work in a crappy job forever? Or be forced to live in substandard housing? Or... exist in poverty for 100+ years?
or become 100 like a friend of mine did, in a wheelchair, blind and almost deaf, and unable to help yourself? I think I want quality of life, not quantity. I am not for euthanasia, but I would want 'help' to be stopped when life has no qualitly anymore (and wonder if that is still 'help' when you are hooked up to all kinds of machines and kept alive with 25 meds)
I wish to die in my sleep ,like the lucky ones ,but what I wish and what I get are two different things ,we must take what we get . Don't go to a hospital you may regret it ,if you live to tell the tel .
Last year, my father (age 92) had covid. He was more frightened of going to the hospital than he was of the virus. He was afraid he'd die alone. I kept him home, lots of fluids., vitamin D, zinc...and he recovered just fine.
I think I got it the next week. (I wouldn't test. What bullshit!) I was fine in 2 days. Then my brother--same "protocol." He was fine in 3 days.
Take THAT, Dr. Fauci & all those other quacks.
Wealthy quacks. I just want to know how they ended up with MY money!
This thread reminds me of an old joke, definitely non-pc; the comic thought the best way to die would be getting shot in the back by a jealous husband, in the act. lol
You need to have a living will and instructions NOT to administer extreme "help."
Jane you take a great risk ,waiting 30 years ,without results . You should sign up with Bill Gates .
unfortunately, that is the luxury of the rulers in our governments.
Great jobs for life, mighty fine paycheck
Just keep looking busy
Not sure about that. It's a lot of overweight non-exercising cat ladies as well. Or as I like to call them, 'Trudeau voters'.
Make that Castro junior voters .
Also called Biden voters.
I caught the flu a few years ago, after airline travel around Christmas. It sucked but I was still able to manage my two large, young and unruly dogs and some cats, too. No one starved and the dogs got outside to exercise and eliminate when they needed it. I felt crappy but it wasn’t a death sentence and I was able to fulfill my daily household tasks. People are terrified for little reason.
I think people are terrified because they want to be terrified. It makes them feel alive, and adds meaning to their mostly meaningless life.
I hope I'm wrong, since it's a sad commentary on modern life.
i think you are right. For most people, specially in the city but also here in rural place, life has become meaningless unless they can go to the doc, where they are looked at, sometimes even praised, where they are someone. They have lost all contact with nature, with growing things, with nurturing things. Poor people they are, even though they are way richer than me.
I had flu 2 years close together, about 15 and 17 years ago. I took some over the counter (my late hubby and I were on the road) and it went away in 4 days. Haven't been sick since. I recently read that if you have it twice so short together you get some kind of cross over immunity (different strands of virus) which is probably right.
that sounds interesting. I have not been sick in ages either.
*knock on wood* - *or simulated wood*
YES
I had the flu... years and years ago. in the 70's. I was in nursing school.
I did miss a few days because I couldn't walk😂😂😂
Seriously, I was so feverish and sickly, I had to crawl around the house, to the bathroom, and kitchen. It was crazy. I did have to recover quickly, so I could return to school
Yes. It sure is. But, tell that to the folks who are never late for a screening and take every med prescribed without question. I had an acquaintance whose sister in law developed ovarian cancer. The acquaintance told me that it was the SIL’s fault because she had skipped a year at the gynecologist. This person thinks all this s*** guarantees her an infinite life.
True. But alot of these weirdos got covid after being vaxxed and boosted and claim they would have DIED otherwise. 😂
excellent point RioRosie. Especially Americans, but I know some Europeans like that too, who believe if you take enough meds and supplements you will never get sick. Some eat only organic (very hard to get here in rural GA) and drive 2 hours to get 'better' stuff, forgetting all the car exhaust they breathe while driving LOL. And yes, we all live till we die. People forget that too.
But Ingrid I read in my almanac that car fumes kill the Whyrusses .In the good old days it was the horses letting go of gas that killed the bugs .
oh man you made my day ! ROFL
Hey! I’m an avid athlete! Haha While I rarely ever get sick, I KNOW one can’t go through life dodging all illnesses. Ima try though. 😘
The question for me still revolves around what an illness is. Is it something you catch or contract or is it your body working from inside trying to expel toxins?
I don't think it has to be either/or. It can be both or either. It's like arguing whether light is a wave or particles.
usually whatever it is, I used to tell my daughters "flush it out" drink drink drink
Rosie if life is fatal ,we must avoid it at all cost ,that's why I do all my exercise walking on railway tracks .
you must still 1. hear well 2. have a good reflex 3. have good balance LOL
Our immune system is miraculous, and it is strengthened by occasionally getting sick. I do believe that in most cases you can do things so that when you do inevitably get sick here and there, it's mild and then you are stronger for it. If you are healthy because you eat in a good way and don't poison your body with obviously bad things, I do think you can avoid a lot of chronic illness.
Exactly, RioRosie!
my father just turned 99! yesterday
He uses a handkerchief for several days that he keeps in his pocket, with his mail box key (that he gives me to check his mail)
He never washes his hands.
Like your father, I use a linen handkerchief (far softer and pleasanter on the nose than paper) only wash my hands when they are soiled, and then with water only. I haven't used soap or shampoo for over four years, and my skin is much the better for it (I am 72). It was the pushing of hand sanitiser and contactless payments that first alerted me to the absurdity of covidmania.
When they do away with cash, we'll need to wash our hands even less.
His immune system is still working 😊
you can be too clean, and these people get even more sick than the somewhat 'dirtier' ones. Hanky lover here too. And dad, almost 89, seldom washes hands. Comes out of garden and eats without washing. Strawberries right out of the garden taste better than washed ones !
My son, now 32 years old, was the DIRTIEST LITTLE BOY in the world. At bath time, he was dirty UNDER his clothes.
He is now the healthiest person I've ever met.
What does that tell you?
That his immune system was properly developed and exercised. Good job!
I also suspect that "antibacterial everything" isn't good for people, especially children.
It's good for the bacteria.
there is even a book about it, I think it is called Farmacology
That proves the science is in ,washing is deadly ,I always suspected that . The good things in life are often not how they look ,but how they taste . My wife says I'm sweet and I don't want to wash that off .
Thank you ,for these commentaries ,now finally there is something I can show my wife ,that washing my face shortens my life .
uh oh I hope you live far enough away so your wife does not shorten MY life LOL
yeah. that generation, the 20's and 30's they were tough, strong and not cry babies
Enjoy having your dad around, Ingrid.
Do not comply. With any of it. Ignore and shame them into oblivion.
They have no shame. IMHO
This is vital (to not comply)
Derisive laughter works well. Especially if you laugh more as they get angrier.
They amended the emergency Covid rules in Colorado to include RSV, influenza and other respiratory illnesses. How to make an emergency last forever.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/how-to-keep-an-emergency-going-forever
If people wake up to the 'virus' story, they wouldn't put up with this bullshit for long..
As long as people believe it, the powers that be can do anything they want..
Ugh... Colorado. Was born there and it breaks my heart to see it ruined. Life is better in the southeast.
I lived in Denver for 18 yrs. When I go back to visit pot smoke is everywhere and people walking down the street smoking openly which is NOT legal but they all do it. I can’t stand it.
We visited Denver a couple years ago and virtually every service person we dealt with seemed to be high. “Sorry, no BLT’s...we’re out of tomatoes” ordered a hamburger that came with a tomato slice. I guess they were just out of the BLT tomatoes? Tamales smothered in green chili but with the wrappers left on...the hotel clerks, Beavis and Butthead, in the smoking area outside giggling like little girls. I could go on but you get the picture...we decided we’d take our tourism $$ elsewhere in the future.
I agree more states will follow suit. Beyond the power grab, I would not be surprised to see federal financial incentives to add more pressure.
🙄🙄🙄 Heading over to read rn!
We live in a media universe that catastrophizes everything. Weather? Remember when the forecast was just the forecast and storms came and went? Now every single weather event is a potential life-ending event wrapped in the shroud of Climate Change. All sectors of media are dependent on click bait "we're all gonna die" headlines because the whole business model is dependent on selling advertisements.
It isn't just the media. I was on a train platform on a pleasant evening last spring. It must have been about 20 degrees Celcius - I was wearing a light jacket, I recall. Over the tannoy came an anouncement warning us to stay hydrated in this hot weather. Now I don't know if this is the train company being hyper-cautious and trying to keep its insurance premiums down, or just general hysteria, but this constant concern for my health is likely to give me a stroke!
All fear mongering. Be afraid! Look under the bed! Nanny state nonesense
'catastrophizes everything', yes they do, well said
a while ago a blogger compared weather programs from a few years ago, with about the same weather as now, and the pleasant temperatures from a while back were now red colored and HIGH. People are getting crazier is all
Just as with some medical terms, all kinds of things are being redefined.
And what about these “polar vortexes” our weather people harp on about any time a cool front slides into town? Seriously?
Hahaha I suppose I am. I try to avoid all but certain news, so I probably miss the “current things” in weather hysteria. 😬😂😬
In that vein, I'm reading Matt Taibbi's book "Hate Inc." He describes the commercialization of journalism from the inside. I thought I was cynical before… Highly recommended.
wait til we get common cold hysteria. that was the plan all along. today china, tomorrow your hometown.
of course, we could disobey.
Not ‘could’ disobey. We ‘must’ disobey.
Yes Cathleen!
Ugh. I’ve been hearing and reading smatterings of this...this using the ‘lessons’ from COVID to aggressively combat other viruses. 🙄
“Arguments that the young and healthy should be spared these burdens, as they are little risk of dying from flu, will be shot out of the sky by vague appeals to Long Influenza.” <- Perhaps these “experts” have a bad case of Long Stupidity.”
We must fight the aspirations of these would-be micro-tyrants with everything we’ve got. Otherwise, things will rapidly descend into further darkness & privation.
What should we combat first whyrusses or walrusses and then there are also the ruskies . Micro tyrants don't exist, there are only mega tyrants . I did not hear much about Hitler lately ,are they hiding another disaster ,or would it be good news?
Micro-tyrants do exist...one example would be my sister-in-law whose name begins with C (I say that just in case my OTHER sisters-in-law get on here and think I’m referring to them). While she can’t wreak havoc on a nation or on a global scale, she can definitely cause upheaval in a community. 😂😂😂
Great point!
One wonders why the MSM are so gleefully covering the China protests when China is their model.
A prediction: China will relax its measures and suddenly dashboards and such will appear demonstrating vast increases in "covid" deaths timed perfectly to the relaxation of measures.
Related, obviously never trusted a single piece of information coming out of China, but one has to wonder if they really did avoid waves of infection while it was ravaging the west? I'd assumed it was basically swept under the carpet. Now not so sure, but since the entire thing is basically a propaganda shitshow we will probably never know.
The key piece of the puzzle, I think, is just the vastly lower rates of transmission and mortality for pre-Omicron SARS-2 in the whole Asia-Pacific. About an order of magnitude lower than in the West. Through 2021 it really was an infection you could easily overlook.
I love the fact China is being criticised for not accepting billions of unwanted doses of mRNA after even Lauterbach said it no longer works.
I confess I count myself among those who don't trust any information coming out of China. Then again, we can't trust a lot of the US numbers either.
I feel for you actually reading this garbage -- it makes me feel ill just reading your account of it. It's amazing how stupid ideas can actually manifest as physical symptoms of pain....
Back in 2020 I told a colleague something that bears repeating. “Now that they’ve figured out they can do this to you, they’re going to keep on doing it to you.”
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
― Frederick Douglass
The way people scrambled to “shelter in place” (gag), “mask up” (barf) and “social distance” (I can’t even stand it any more) in March 2020 surely delighted our public health overlords. It was all so much easier than Fauci’s wildest lockdown wet dream.
Wow. Just wow. What the covid cult should have learned is that flu-like approaches are ineffective. In fact, these lessons, learned in studying flu for decades, and written down in the WHO's "influenza guidance," went directly against the NPI's and other shibboleths of the covid narrative. And yet, here we are, with media and journalists saying exactly the opposite, with a straight face. *FacePalm*
So, they're piggybacking on the Covid Craze hoping it might lead them too new green pastures of funding and prestige. Yay. Aren't we lucky.
Looking around, however, I agree with Eugyppius' assessment that people are not going to let themselves be led into a new flu craze. Everybody is exhausted, almost nobody wants to mask up or hear Lauterbach speak once more, and there is so much backtracking from Covidians ("I was against school closures from the beginning!", "I always felt that the interests of children and young people...", "Mistakes have been made.") that even the most naive and credulous German must have groked that maybe, just maybe, they fucked up the response to Covid the teeniest bit.
I really hope that optimism is justified. I've heard some of my neighbors say they're going to keep wearing a mask even after Covid is over with, because colds and flu.
If you point out one can just stay home if sick, there is glaring.
Interesting situation currently here in Northern California. A respiratory something or other is spreading like wildfire. Kids in the schools have it, teachers have it. My daughter works as a nurse in a Nursing/Rehab facility and it is sweeping through the elderly population there. But no covid testing is going on, people are seemingly treating it as the cold that it is. My daughter got it...was coughing a lot, had a slight fever. I mixed up a batch of Dr. McCullough's recipe for a povidone-iodine nasal and throat spray and took it over to her, and directed her to also take the recommended vitamins C, zinc, D3, quercetin and a few others. Within a day it turned around considerably and now on day 3 she is almost completely better. Others she knows who seem to have caught the same thing have been sickly for almost 2 weeks. She put the word out and a great many of her friends are begging for the povidone-iodine and vitamin information! I'm actually surprised all this has worked so well given the fact that she didn't start using these things early....the illness had already taken hold somewhat. I tried to find Dr. McCullough's original video about why the nasal spray works so well, but Twitter apparently banned it a long time ago. The fools.
If I got sick I would test — with the caveat that tests aren't as accurate as people think — but only out of academic interest.
This is very interesting information, thanks - I'll keep it in mind the next time we catch COVID! Here in Germany, a sizeable part of the population keep testing when they feel sick, so what's spreading here is definitely not covid. We have lots of sick kids right now, at the school I have ties to 1/5th of the student population are at home sick. Some covid cases, but the overwhelming majority doesn't have covid.
So apparently euthanasia is "in" and promoted, but we must go to extreme lengths to protect fragile elderly people whose bodies are just waiting for the next medical insult to give in to death. There are things worse than death.
Recent news out of Canada about euthanasia is distressing to me. I think someone with a fatal illness like ALS or Alzheimer's should have that option. But it should be carefully regulated so as not to be abused by opportunistic family members, for example (yes I read a lot of Agatha Christie).
Of course the sudden spate of new stories about this makes me suspicious of ulterior motives etc. Sigh, it's tiring to be so cynical.
My daughter's best friend had been in remission for colon cancer since 2019, but not long after her 2 Pfizer shots in 2021 and later a booster, the cancer roared back and spread everywhere and was at Stage 4 when re-diagnosed in January. She has gone steadily downhill since then and is in very bad shape now. Doctors didn't expect her to last even until Christmas. My daughter today told me this woman is deciding now which day this coming week she will take the cocktail to end her life. This is in California, so I guess it's legal here now.
Having finished treatment for a breast cancer blip in December 2019, I've been keeping a close eye on this kind of news. I stupidly got the first Moderna shots, but no boosters.
So sorry to hear about your daughter's friend. It does seem amazing that in California you can choose to self-euthanize, yet a doctor can lose their license for, possibly, recommending low carb for diabetes.
If what they're calling 'long flu' symptoms is real, then what we just witnessed as long covid is the same thing! Covid was the flu that mysteriously disappeared during supposed 'covid'? He who develops the tests controls the narrative. And remember, the tests picked up fragments of anything cold/flu/virus whatever. Wonder how many ppl were taken advantage of by the test kits? That is why the govt sent them to every household free?? To turn the masses into hypocondriacs. Matters not what they really contracted, they simply had their virtue signaling test result to prove their victimhood. Everyone wants to be a victim these days. Remember the days when you got sick and you simply stayed home and doctored yourself and got well and resumed life? No one cared what they had or needed a label to show to the world. It simply an identity crisis, ppl do not have an identity of their own, they are looking for external gratification and approval. A never ending black hole and a sure fire way to get taken advantage of. You act like a victim and you're gonna get what you wish for, to be victimized.
You're right--many people enjoyed the hell out of being victims and also playing "science" jabbing swabs up their nostrils and wearing snot-filled masks!
There are people proudly “Still COVIDing”. It gives their meager lives purpose.
I read a comment on the NPR site that made me laugh out loud. She said whenever she sees another person in a mask, she gives them the "knowing nod." 😂
'the tests picked up fragments of anything cold/flu/virus whatever. Wonder how many ppl were taken advantage of by the test kits? That is why the govt sent them to every household free?'
It doesn't affect your argument, but it looks like your conflating PCR testing with rapid antibody testing. Two different things.
I believe the inventor of the pcr test himself said they're not dependable and can be cranked up so high that they'll show anything you want them to be.
That would be Kary Mullis, who actually won the Nobel prize for that. I read his book, Dancing in the Mind Field, which was excellent. So sad that he died right before Covid – it would be really interesting to see his take on developments.
"People like Iwasaki, the journalists who print her statements, and the politicians who pay attention to her research, all represent a grave, long-term danger to basic human well-being."
Harming people psychologically is their goal. They want people to be damaged, so they can't/won't fight back.