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Bash's avatar

Rule of law vs Rule by law

Once you understand the difference, this all becomes easy to understand

The climate activists are modern day brown shirts. And Germany is incredible, I drove from dusseldorf to Belgium last week and it looks like a wasteland - windmills as far as the eye can see, but strip mining too. What the actual fuck

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z28.310's avatar

Climate activists are more annoying than dangerous. Antifa is a more appropriate match for brown shirts style state sanctioned violence against the commoners.

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eugyppius's avatar

It's interesting, they have different roles. Obviously antifa is used to suppress alleged right-wing political activism, especially at the street level. Letzte Generation is much more cleaned up for press appearances. A full out leftoid protest would of course feature both groups – the media friendly female climate gluers for the camera and the antifa to beat back counter-protesters and chase off unsympathetic media.

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z28.310's avatar

One of the stories that made their role clearer for me were the reports of antifa in Germany beating people up on trains for not wearing their masks. Tools of the clown regime.

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Warmek's avatar

Antifa are the exact same worthless commie bastards they were in 1932.

The "Antifaschistiche" in "Antifaschistiche Aktion" and "Antifaschistiche Schutzwand" (a.k.a.: "The Berlin Wall") have the same genesis in the explicitly Stalinist KPD. So of course they're going around cracking skulls for the state.

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ArnoldF's avatar

EUG, different fingers of the same clenched fist. The average person in the West just does not understand what they are witnessing--completely hoodwinked by these strategies and unable to connect the dots.

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Lizzy's avatar

Blm is another part of the spectrum they rolled out. They made a saint out of a lowlife criminal, they used celebs and sports people as tools to coerce people and public opinion showing them bending the knee.

Of course now all the money has been looted without helping one single neighbourhood anywhere, they’ve revealed a bit more how these organisations work.

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Stephen Oliver's avatar

I believe it's largely the same crowd: young, disaffected, clueless, white youth from mostly affluent liberal homes.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I disagree, the twinks gluing themselves to the ground are more dangerous because they are normalizing idiocy and deranged public action which the State tacitly accepts and allows the Progressives to accept the "new normal" political idea. Antifa is violent, so it is obvious who and what they are about.

They are two arms of the Progressive Leviathan and must be completely rejected if you hope to keep your God-given freedom.

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Mtone's avatar

Leftists speed bumps wear down quickly in traffic.

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SmithFS's avatar

Many of the Climate protesters are Antifa or are organized by Antifa. The Communists in Western countries had faded into the waste bin of history and were pretty much ignored by everybody until they full-heartedly embraced the Climate Change Alarmist movement.

They are often called Watermelons, Green on the outside, Red on the inside. I see lots of them around in union leadership, especially public service unions, a really vicious arrogant bunch. As zealous on Climate Change Fanaticism as they were on Marxism. In fact many if most of them are also hard core Maoist-Stalinist communists. A real nasty bunch.

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ArnoldF's avatar

Marxism will not be stopped without power and force. They are no different than a totalitarian religious institution such as Islam. Which is why many muslims are bedding down with communists as another vector to decapitate the west.

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z28.310's avatar

You think muslims are teaming up with the same people pushing drag queen story hour for children and flying trans gay flags?

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Rikard's avatar

Moslems rightly see those as tools against the West; they see us as a collective whole that must be defeated once and for all.

Therefore, anything which divides and splinters and degenerates us is a tool to be used.

You being a westerner of some kind has been conditioned from birth to think that all races/cultures are equal in worth and dignity, and that all races/cultures therefore share common values.

That is not so: to moslems, we lack any value at all save purely instrumental or utilitarian.

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ArnoldF's avatar

yes, I do. Muslims believe in an afterlife and that they will get rewarded for dying in Jihad battle. Communists have to face up to no future as they have bought into Marxist lies of just a material universe--no future except fate. Marxists are actually afraid to die when push comes to shove. The 2nd part of the story is because Muslims beleive they are serving a god called allah, and that they will likely triumphe over global communism because the moon god allah promises them victory over the infidel. Just as the ragtag muslim warriors devoured the USSR Soviet Union in Afghanistan war.

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Lizzy's avatar

The cabal and world leaders not only under estimate but fail to understand Afghanistan and its people.

They ultimately believe in their cause as they truly believe they live their lives as perfect Muslims following Mohammed’s footsteps as if they were his shadow.

As he is viewed as the most perfect human to have lived, in shadowing him in turn they believe they are the most true and perfect Muslims and followers of Islam.

There isn’t and never will be any deviation away from this ideology which is the only truth and path to follow for Afghanistans, you only have to look at how swiftly they downed weapons and fell into line, even in the most recent event when America decide to pull groups from the country.

We saw reports of women being treated badly, common thread as women are just property to be owned in Muslim countries. I mean why would they take up arms against everything they believe and embrace with open arms.

With this mindset it has always given them an unfair advantage to outside forces. They don’t need a large organised visible army, what would seem independent pockets scattered all over have one common theme and belief system and they will be rewarded in the next life handsomely for perusing and spreading that belief.

Under orders our governments have transported that mindset into western countries as a tool by the cabal to destroy and destabilise.

I don’t expect the blowback from what they’ve unleashed to be less than astronomical.

If they couldn’t defeat a rag tag army in Afghanistan, they have not a hope in hells chance of maintaining control at top of the pyramid with the genie out of the lamp and transported around the world.

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Danno's avatar

In my experience Muslims, including Nation of Islam (Farrakhan's guys) are dead-set against Wokery, and aren't afraid to say so.

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Vanda Salvini's avatar

In Canada, June is LGBT+ month so some public buildings and many schools are supposed to fly the flag. There have already been some flag flying days or LGBT+ days in May (I don't know exactly why). It was the Muslim parents that kept their kids home from school on those days, the MSM reported by the hundreds so it was probably by the thousands.

That left the leftists in a pickle: which poor oppressed group do they side with? They actually did lean to the gay side.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I would imagine a portion of them straddle both circles.

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Danno's avatar

BLM, too.

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Margaret's avatar

The non-thinking gluers are causing people to waste fuel, cause more pollution, while stuck (pun intended) behind them.

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David Rinker's avatar

Brainless clones, tools of the unseen hand. Hitler used the Brownshirts to attain power then disposed of them. Read the history of the Brownshirts and their homosexual leader Ernest Roehm.

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jac's avatar

they are brown shirts but what you observe is the result of intellectual and political decay of the germans. it’s what happens if people are comfortably brainwashed to believe in elections (that’s why “trust” in electoral processes needs to be upheld - not because the institution works so great but b/c it’s based on believe of a certain percentage of constituents) and vote for the same mf’s for 30+ years. longer actually, but i’ll start with the end of the cold war.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

All the big corporations support the Climate Change scam. Gov. DeSantis is attacking at least one "club member" - Walt Disney - and he is being eviscerated by the influencers at the moment.

I say he should double down on the "crony fascist" state message.

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/powerful-people-and-organizations

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Vanda Salvini's avatar

It only takes a few people (bankers) to keep many others on the woke parade. The world runs on debt, especially the large corporations. So a few bankers with an agenda can threaten to withold financing if the corps. don't tow the line. Then there are the honey pot operations that probably keep others in line.

Tritorch on substack had an interesting article about this.

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Daniele Vecchi's avatar

Those Canadians truck drivers were less protected by that Trudeau to whom anything is forgiven, including his young parodies of black people. Rules in our societies have become variable: it all depends on the why and who you support. If you lean towards Marxists it is a stroll in the park, you probably can kill someone and get out free.

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eugyppius's avatar

anarcho-tyranny.

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Kittykat's avatar

That’s it! The pace has stepped up since the the release of that virus.

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P. Reay's avatar

Those deaths were all suicides, even the guy shot twice in the back of his head! ... You don't even get charged if you're in the right club, like hilly-billy are.

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Daniele Vecchi's avatar

But at least in those years days were quiet, cities were safe. After sunset you were praying not to hear anyone knocking at your door.....because visitors were unpleasant. Right now there is a combination of censorship and anarchy that is devastating.

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P. Reay's avatar

I live in a historically 'bad' part of town (hookers, dealers, bikers). I feel totally safe because everyone knows their neighbours and all the other locals; and punk/ethnic gangs are not tolerated by the established powers (bikers are very good neighbours!). I wouldn't want to live in normal parts of the city now, they are sitting ducks for the types of feral gangs that are starting to roam around these days (mostly home-based in the new projects/bad parts of town).

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baker charlie's avatar

This was a long time ago, but I once lived in such a neighborhood. To set this up, it was two old apartment buildings on a block that was mostly vacant lot. One day a gang member from elsewhere came down and started threatening one of the neighbors. Both buildings emptied and basically intimidated the interloper into leaving quickly.

Never underestimate that power.

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Danno's avatar

I see it in the media, but except for a couple of weeks in 2020, I don't feel it on the street yet.

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z28.310's avatar

There was a video going around a few days ago I think from the UK. Climate puppets sitting in the street blocking traffic. A frustrated driver grabs one and throws them out of the way to the sidewalk. Two police standing by turn to see the commotion and then forcefully attack and arrest the driver.

The oligarchs are increasing their embrace of anarcho-tyranny across the western world.

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Danno's avatar

In my city the cops would arrest the traffic-blockers and tell the driver to move along. I live in a blue US city, so it hasn't captured the police yet.

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Baldmichael's avatar

I am fully awake in the UK and have been since 2020 thankfully.

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Charlotte's avatar

I was reading an article about how the activists became the government in 2009 and that’s when the whole dynamic changed. Obama came into power and he joined with Merkel to have the NGO unofficially become part of the government and then to legitimize and weaponize these groups through other groups. For example, the UN is helping to fund migration through buses, food, clothes to illegals to get to the southern US border. US taxpayers money at it’s best. Likewise, these protests are actually government funded- they are used to push political movements that the current party in power supports- we also saw this with fake activists protesting the oil pipeline from Canada to the US. Of course such a pipeline is much better for the environment, but that’s not what the dunderheads were chanting - they were told otherwise. Our governments are the weapons and they have stolen the activists from us. They also don’t give media coverage of the protests we hold- only the ones the government supports- and we see this across many countries, it was very evident during covid. I don’t know how you stop this other than to defund huge agencies of our governments and right now post covid they are receiving more unchecked monies than ever before- a lot fo it funneled into the next faux outrage. Last years rage of BLM is now about to file for bankruptcy. They only gave 30% to charity, the rest went into luxury properties, salaries and luxury cars. This year’s trend is anti-oil.

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Rosemary B's avatar

Obama's Army

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ArnoldF's avatar

this is called facism. same exact thing happened in the mainstreaming of the nazi party in the early 1930s. Once the regime gets in power, than they turn against those useful idiot actors that enabled them to get into power because they start making demands. In the nazi regime, it was referred to as the "night of the long knives". If these globalist communist regimes actually ake over nations' governments (which they appear to be doing in the US, Canada and parts of Europe) I would expect to see the same backlash against these brownshirt radicals...but that just means the regime is thouroughly in power.

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Louis Bingo's avatar

It's not just climate activists, either. Virtually all protestors from the left are tacitly corporate or state run, the street brown-shirts to enforce policy by obstruction, violence, intimidation, and terrorism. Look at how the establishment in the US used the Summer 20 Floyd riots (a real insurrection) to intimidate the electorate before the election. It will happen again in 2024.

There are virtually no true NGOs any more, just as there are virtually no true charitable foundations any more--most are all links in the chains of state and corporate power, often both at the same time. There are so many useful idiots to go out and protest because that's their religion it was only a matter of time before the corporate state or state corporations would tap into this national resource.

NGOs, foundations, and other intermediaries between official government or corporations and leftists street thugs acting under the mantle of "protest" play a crucial role in our politics now, like the way the NED poured millions of dollars into Ukraine to overthrow a democratically elected president in 2014. The NEDs have now come home to domestic politics in the US after so much success abroad for so many years in wrecking the elections and democracies of other countries. The US did this in Russia to get the massively unpopular but pro-DC Yeltsin re-elected against all odds in 1996, which is why the Russians banned foreign based NGOs etc.

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Margaret's avatar

The Left takes over all well-intended groups, charitable foundation and corrupts them. The general public is the last to realize the change.

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Tom Froer's avatar

& corupted most religions too.

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SmithFS's avatar

I wouldn't call them "The Left". The true left are Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, Russel Brand etc. They are Neoliberals. They are neither left or right. What they are is obedient minions of the Ruling Class. They even embrace far right neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Whoever or whatever policy the establishment endorses.

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Louis Bingo's avatar

I agree fully.

Since the 60s consummating after the Fall of the Wall, there has been a split within the Left between its cultural and its traditional strains. The cultural Left--or "Left" if you want to bracket it in scare quotes--has not only gone crazy but in the process become an instrument of both corporate and state power, an Orwellian weapon of ideology by which a failing elite seeks to hold on to power it is no longer able to wield for the relative good of the nation. It is a weapon by which elites and establishments attack their own societies and above all its "proletariat," that is, the middle class. Let's call this "managerial progressivism," the contemporary form of corporate statism. It has nothing to do with the traditional working class, the middle class, or its values. In fact, it is exactly those that it attacks, and that is the point. So I think maybe like you that the characterization of the radical establishment as "Left" is profoundly misleading even if it serves occasionally to avoid prolix clarifications like this one.

The traditional left, from left liberal to liberal socialists (though not the Marxist left), broadly defends traditional values because the "proletariat" is in fact generally traditionalist. It affirms traditional marriage and families and so religion, for example. These go hand in hand with economic issues, like good paying and dignified jobs that can support families.

I agree that Taibbi, Greenwald, and some other prominent journalists are true Leftists, and I consider myself in agreement with them on many issues of traditional leftism.

I agree that the fundamental divide right now is not that between Left and Right--which properly understood constitutes a spectrum within a healthy constitutional democracy--but between corrupt and incompetent but power-hungry totalitarian managerial, corporate, and statist elites versus virtually everyone else but especially the middle. Because the issue is whether there will be a constitutional democracy and thus whether the difference of Left and Right will have validity as the legitimate spectrum of public life--whether there will be a Left and a Right as is necessary for liberal democracy to work at all.

Apologies for the length but you raise a crucial point. I consider myself now as Left in the traditional sense as Right in the traditionalist sense.

And also, the Right has been split, too, since the end of the Cold War, between the neo-cons and neo-liberals (who are progressivists!) and true, traditional conservatives, which implies some respect for limits on the economy as well as the state for example. Yet globalist capitalism and endless neo-con war are the least conservative things going.

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Margaret's avatar

Teeth-grindingly maddening, isn't it?

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Louis Bingo's avatar

Yes, and most distressing of all is how many of our fellow citizens see nothing like Sergeant Schulz.

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baker charlie's avatar

My husband always used to say,"This doesn't affect me/you, why should I/you care".

Because, goddammit, if this continues you are going to be made to care and I'm not sure you want that.

I miss him, but in a way I'm glad he's in a better place and no longer around to witness this shitshow.

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Danno's avatar

They got their seed capital when Obama got "Stimulus" passed in 2009. It contained huge amounts of under-the-table funding for so-called 'community organizers' -- the radical hard core behind all these violent protests.

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baker charlie's avatar

It's been a longer game than that. The seed capital came originally from Foundations, originally Ford and Rockerfeller and later Clinton and Gates. The NGO's were already borked by 2009.

Anyone else remember how in the 80's it was fashionable for the nascent neo-cons to insist that all social programs should be administered by non-profits/charities? A lot of money can be laundered by a good 'charity' scheme.

In other words, you are correct, but it wasn't the first time this happened, only the coding was reversed. It's all the same side though playing the plebs with different masks.

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Andrea L's avatar

Interestingly, something very similar is happening in Italy regarding climate activists, their punishment and COVID measures protests. Actually, it seems the same exact plan is unfolding in multiple countries.

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eugyppius's avatar

Given their similarity in tactics, I imagine the Italian activists are coordinated by exactly the same people.

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Low Status Opinions's avatar

It’s almost like it’s a worldwide conspiracy. Just a few years ago I would have labelled anyone who said such a thing as a nut. Now I think anyone who can’t see it isn’t really looking.

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Demianovich's avatar

Yes, It is a worldwide conspiracy. Forget the right and left labels too … just darkness versus Light.

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SmithFS's avatar

That's right. Nowadays "Conspiracy" is another term for "Spoiler Alert".

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Tim Boyer's avatar

It's not a conspiracy. The Club of Rome and Fauci 1969 the WEF. Here's your plan funded by Congress. To kill 90% of the World population. Global 2000. U.S. Congress under H.B. 15090 (1969). Dr. Robert Gallo "NCI project officer for the Bionetics Department established in 1975. Group based in Switzerland and put into effect by the Haig – Kissinger Depopulation Policy." Bionetics Department established in 1975. World Economic Forum involvement Patent in 2002 but listed as contributor in the Development of mRNA program document. But they were involved in 1969 and so was Dr. Fauci. The WEF was created by Club Rome. Who believes in using vaccines as population control.

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Dollars4Dummies's avatar

The 2020 George Floyd riots in the US followed a similar pattern. They were extensively organized and amply funded, but purported to be a "grass roots" movement. Pallets of bricks, ready for throwing, mysteriously turned up at locations where violence was about to occur. Police were ordered to stand down in the face of arson, vandalism, and looting. Then Congressional Democrats performed a televised kabuki featuring African style scarves worn while they knelt the symbolic 9 minutes to demonstrate support for the perpetrators of violence, but not for its victims. Then the "defund the police" movement gutted law enforcement in major cities to ensure continued chaos, from which politically privileged elites have remained amply protected, and were prompty re-elected.

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Charlotte's avatar

One of the first ones was Trayvon Martin in FL, this was soon after Obama came to power. Many organized protests against police violence, defund the police followed. All of it funded all organized. You can run threads through all of them- no stop and frisk, anti pipeline, occupy wall street, etc they led to anti-fracking, anti oil, BLM. And the other arm pushed the lockdowns, mandated jabs, and now recently uncovered that the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation even created AI chat bots on twitter to push jabs, fake profiles on twitter, and censorship of comments against the narrative. All of this was covertly funded by taxpayers. It ends up with young doofuses protesting now on streets, unaware they are tools of the authoritarian government and they don’t get arrested because the same government has made sure that the police won’t arrest them.

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Dollars4Dummies's avatar

Yes. And recall that "defund the police" was adapted from BLM's original demands, posted on their website to "ABOLISH the police, capitalism, and the United States." Not defund, abolish. Of course you can abolish the police if you defund it long enough and thoroughly enough.

It has also seemed to me that the MO in these situations is very similar to the "color revolutions" that the CIA and the National Endowment for Democracy instigated in Ukraine, Serbia, Egypt, Syria, etc. After decades of practice at overthrowing foreign governments, did they decide to overthrow their own?

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Black Teddy's avatar

Yes, they are overthrowing their own, because there is an elite, who are globalists. They do not believe in America. Read One nation under blackmail by Whitney Webb

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Danno's avatar

I witnessed their open-air organizational meetings held in public parks and vacant lots the day before the violence. It appeared to be well-planned and coordinated by small cadres of out-of towners. I assume this is how the rioters knew which streets would be "open" and that there would be designated 'breachers' trained to smash down doors to local retail businesses in order to open them up to looting (but not enter the stores, so they could only be charged with criminal mischief or vandalism if they were caught), and 'burners' trained and equipped with accelerants to start fires, etc. Nothing about the riots was organic.

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Dollars4Dummies's avatar

Very interesting. That was my impression, it was fully funded, highly organized. Not a bit spontaneous. It also scaled-up much faster than any "grassroots" event ever could, although that's how the corporate media framed it.

I noticed something similar in the gun control demonstration that showed up in NYC 10 days after the Parkland shooting. This "spontaneous" protest featured professionally printed signage, a highly structured staging area with protective fencing, and the news media ready with stories already written. The result of far more energy, money, and advance planning than could have been spontanously organized in just 10 days over an event that happened in a city 1,200 miles away.

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Danno's avatar

Once we're aware of what's going on, we start looking for these kinds of details. Why do you think they're so desperate that the public never sees the J6 security camera footage?

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baker charlie's avatar

Same with some of the big 'trans' protests. There was one, in the UK I think, back around 2018 where the protesters all had glitzy matching placards that were obviously professionally produced. It turned out later that they were supplied by Amnesty International, of all things. Now whenever I see these obviously well funded 'protests' I can only wonder who is supplying the money and how.

(I wish I could point back to discussion of this, there might still be threads on Mumsnet, but the Reddit communities that discussed this with links have all been nuked from space at this point)

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Lisa Reisman's avatar

I had traveled to Germany this past week, ironically to attend two conferences all about green energy (one CWIEME - the power transformer industry event) and the other, E-World. These protestors blocked so many streets out and around the CWIEME event in Berlin, making it impossible to get around. I felt like shouting "You idiots, these events are only and about clean energy....the groups responsible for building the technology to help transform the world to your vision." I also saw them pour out of the Berlin main train station w/ their "no LNG, no Nuclear" signs and just laughed at them. They make me sick. I have no idea why nobody stops them....I guess nobody wants a public confrontation. If they were in America, I would have engaged but as a foreigner I decided I'd play the role of observer only :)

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greensocks's avatar

The system is sick. There is no such thing as a speedy trial and Jljustice is dead.

Contrast the FBI raid on and prosecution of Mark Houck with the prosecution of the pro-abort terrorists after roe v wade was overturned.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253523/acquitted-pro-life-activist-mark-houck-reveals-details-of-fbi-raid-will-press-charges

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/10/06/fbi-wont-provide-updates-say-whether-it-has-arrested-anyone-over-attacks-on-pro-life-organizations-centers-churches/

Contrast the J6 prison sentences with the BLM rioters who walked free after setting fire to cop cars.

https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/

https://ksltv.com/482737/no-jail-time-for-man-who-set-police-car-on-fire-during-2020-riots-in-slc/

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Charlotte's avatar

These prosecutorial cases drive me crazy. Without equal application of the laws you get anarchy. And weaponizing judicial and prosecutorial discretion has to be criminal too.

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greensocks's avatar

It's not anarchy. It's tyranny.

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greensocks's avatar

Mob rule tyranny

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Andreas Stullkowski's avatar

Great summary, which makes sense of those people.

They are very successful. Any critic of their methods also states that they are morally justified. I can also report that I do not know anyone anymore in real life who doubts that we have a dire climate emergency.

Kudos to the climate people, to cement into the brains of the population an abstruse theory which is easily debunked.

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Lizzy's avatar

Ask them how paying more tax is going to save the planet, the last thing the earth would need is money, also what is earth going to do with this money you hand over.

We know it’s nothing, money means literally nothing to the planet itself, so why all these taxes and charges when it can do nothing with it.

They set up the perfect gimmick in how to carry on their lives as normal, carbon offsetting, another scam bought and paid for, brought to us by the degenerates who pass themselves off as the elite and philanthropists.

They’ve programmed the public into believing that it’s perfectly normal, for wealthy people to not have a carbon footprint belong to them, they wave a load of spondooly and ping… it disappears right into the pockets of the poorest on earth.

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Andreas Stullkowski's avatar

Less wealth = less consumption

Here in Western Germany, the middle class somehow has been convinced that we have to suffer to survive.

It is really strange.

But we saw the flagellation already with CoV.

This is probably why the people that glue themselves to the street are so well regarded here by many people. They make us all suffer a little bit, to save the weather.

I believe this is only going on in Germany and to a lesser extent, Austria and the UK, and to an even lesser extent in some other countries in Western Europe.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Perhaps gluing themselves to the streets is another excuse for glue sniffing which degrades their brains.

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Rob D's avatar

And, as always, the "climate protesters" are dressed in top of the line clothing, more than likely have money for food, "smart phones" and the like. I'll start respecting these idiots when they start *living* what they supposedly believe. Show up to the protest in hand woven clothing that they made by spinning hemp fibers by hand. No jewelry, no smart phones, no *anything*. If someone is claiming to care about the planet so much that they feel the need to tell everyone of us how we are supposed to live our lives, they damn well better be living what they believe. This goes for *any* group that is telling other what they are "supposed" to do to save all of humanity. Eating bugs, drinking sewage, taking "gene editing"... the ones saying we all need to do it better be doing it themselves. And, as always, they are *not*.

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Lizzy's avatar

Rob D my daughter had a preach to me.

I told her she gets to preach, when she’s rid of her smartphone, all tech, she can forget about all her gimmicks, new clothes.

Holidays, travel and go anywhere in my car is off limits as travel by foot or bike is the only option.

When the reality of loosing all those luxuries that teenagers are fully accustomed too, she was quick to wind her neck in.

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Rikard's avatar

Well done.

Dad gave me the same speech more or less (no cell phones in the 1970s, you know) when I was a know-it-all brat.

It worked, but it did sting.

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Lizzy's avatar

Rikard I lived through the power cuts of the 70’s, continual strikes and poverty. What I witnessed was not on the same level as what my parents did born in the 30’s and 40’s, it was bad enough for me for the drive to strive for a much better life.

My mother is in her 80’s now, she can still vividly remember visiting her friend who lived in the poorhouse after her father died, no social welfare payments made then.

It was there or be homeless and starve, it still haunts my mother to this day what she saw and the despair she felt. I mean, do we literally want to go back to these days? Anyone wishing or campaigning for in-depth mass poverty really has no concept of its reality.

They also fail to understand, their communist, Marxist, fascist beliefs also have an hierarchy system.

My father was an astute man and would point out how well fed the generals were in communist countries.

My journey as a people watcher started while on holidays, people often reveal a lot about themselves without even realising it. The government’s daily updates revealed a great deal about what they knew, body language reigns supreme.

People have often complain about the news, I’ve explained that if they really want to know what’s going on, turn the volume off, watch their body language and how they behave as they speak. Also keep an eye on the news banners that speed across the bottom of the screen, much of what is sped across those banners, never even gets a mention in the main news

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Baldmichael's avatar

As a teenager in 1970's we had none of today's tech anyway, but I took up cycling and still do today. I have no problem with driving per se and do myself but in the UK where I am from too many people drive when they could cycle or walk.

The trouble is we have built much of our infrastructure around the car which rather than a useful tool is an object of worship by many to our detriment.

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Margaret's avatar

They demand that their choices be theirs and your choices be what they preach to you.

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KlarkashTon's avatar

The analysis is spot on. But it's disappointing how few of the general public see through this charade.

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Low Status Opinions's avatar

It’s hard to see what is going on when literally every mainstream media source is lying to you. You can’t blame busy people for not engaging. (not saying you are doing that!) The narrative warns most people off. People like us are’ climate deniers’ or ‘far right’ simply for asking questions. Most people haven’t got the time, or stomach for that.

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Rosemary B's avatar

they are blinded

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David Rinker's avatar

"None so blind as those who refuse to see."

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Tayelrand@Gmail.com's avatar

Extinction Rebellion here in my Netherlands are also granted a suspicious amount of leeway by the Dutch government and the media.

During one of their biggest protests late last year the police set up tents where the protesters could get a change of dry clothes after facing the water cannons - A rare privilege!

That having said - It seems like whatever control the powers-that-be here had over these well-intentioned but ill-informed climate activists is slipping. The question is how long the public at large is going to put up with their green shenanigans

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Low Status Opinions's avatar

Some are well intentioned. On the margins maybe. But the hardcore do not have the best interests of society at heart. They are activists or narcissists. Usually a combination of the two.

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Terry Oldberg's avatar

Germany's energy policy is based upon an application of the Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness by the argument made by a climate model under which an "abstract" event of the future for Earth's climate system is mistaken for a "concrete" event of the future for this system where an "abstract" event of the future is "abstracted" (removed) from a location in space and time but a "concrete" event of the future has such a location. When I emailed Olaf Schultz to in inform him of same, he did not respond to my message.

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L.P. Koch's avatar

Whitehead against climate nonsense. Spot-on. Trading the present, and common sense, for some left brain fantasy world.

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ChrisC's avatar

The left always overplays their hand. They spent 50 years slowly propagandizing environmental and climate issues. Most people say the "climate problem" what ever it may be is important and we should do something about it (even though they are not willing to spend even $1 on it personally). But now, the sudden, over the top, catastrophism has made climate change a punch line, as in, "Ha, Ha, it must be climate change" to any bad thing that might have happened. Destroying art objects and stopping traffic is just amplifying this trend. I predict in 10 years, climate change will be forgotten and the left will have moved on to their next thing.

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z28.310's avatar

In 10 years, they will be claiming we are within 10 years of imminent climate catastrophe. Just like 10 years ago, and just like the 10 years before that, and before that.

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ArnoldF's avatar

AOC and her ilk.

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Rikard's avatar

We challenge our opponents seriousness with levity, and his levity with seriousness.

(Paraphrasing Cicero - he used that tactic when in court, to great effect.)

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

since it is only clothing glued to the asphalt, just take them out of the clothing and then arrest them for running naked, give them a couple years in jail and huge fees. See how many will volunteer next time. Or may be glue their naked butts to the street LOL

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eugyppius's avatar

some of them mix sand with adhesive and glue their skin to the street; apparently this makes them all but unremoveable and the police have to use jackhammers to remove portions of the pavement along with their hands. they've also begun gluing themselves to cars and buses.

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Old salt MD's avatar

Why damage the street?? Skin grows back..... and there is always skin-grafts from their gluteal regions......

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Tom Froer's avatar

Hands?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

oh no ! May be the police should use goo gone (biting substance). Must be an attraction to see a bus go by with a nutcase glued to it. You made my day LOL I won't be able to get that image out of my head today

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eugyppius's avatar

amusing images here, including of some girl who glued herself to an automobile tyre, and of some idiots who literally cemented their hands to the street and had to be jackhammered free.

https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/klimakleber-einbetoniert-da-helfen-nur-trennschleifer-und-presslufthammer-83938272.bild.html

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Y Cunnington's avatar

I hope they did not provide the idiots with ear protection.

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Charlotte's avatar

I kind of like the idea of making them poop and pee on themselves- I’d cordon a ring around them and let them broil and freeze and refuse to let them leave or have teammates come to them just ply them with food and tons of water and then film the aftereffects. These are simpletons and cannot think out the consequences.

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SmithFS's avatar

Ain't happening. They are minions of the Ruling Elites. They are their foot soldiers.

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Baldmichael's avatar

...with no hands if they glue them to the street!

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Rikard's avatar

Hose them down with the run-off from a pig farm, and you'll see how the glue miraculously disolves...

Or spray them with brine from surströmming.

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Margaret's avatar

A tad harsh, but funny comment.

One day a true psychopath will just run over some of them.

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Rosemary B's avatar

The product "Goof Off" is very effective but really harsh to skin and smells horrid. That might work

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

that is the one ! I read here that VW gave the gluers food and drink ! and then they got themselves loose to use the bathroom. I hope they all have to pay in person for the damage and for all the mess they make. I also think that the ones who are not really in the way should be left their until they get lose by themselves! And the one with the tire, just leave him. He can go to work with the tire on his hand ROFL

Sometimes the govt is way too easy on this kind of totally crappy people

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Rikard's avatar

That's complete bullshit.

There are industrial-strength glues that can stick you to wet asphalt (or wet glass) so hard you can't get loose, but those glues are

a) not available over the counter, you need to have a licensed business to buy them

b) will cause 2nd-3rd degree chemical burns if applied to skin (or through clothing).

c) even if they'd use them, the asphalt stuck to them would be there until their skin flakes off, jackhammers or no-don't see many reports of activists treated for severe chemical burns, do we?

It's theater.

We did the exact same thing in the 1980s, I was part of it. But since us red-and-blacks back then were working class or lumpenproletariat or non-white migrants, actually challenging the capitalist slave-society (and communism too!) and not spolied bratchniks and boy-cunts of the upper classes, the police gavezero fucksabouthowmuch forcethey used.

Including running us over in front of news teams, who somehow failed to take pictures or shoot film.

It's play-acting.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Why can't they get the surgeons to do something useful and remove their limbs? Then they would be 'armless.....

The remainder of their bodies could be used for repairing 'trunk' roads.

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Clay's avatar

Sounds like good exercise for them.

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Baldmichael's avatar

That's the key! Build Back Butt 'er.

Or 'Build Back Butt 'is' the male version. :)

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