There is panic & hyperventilation plenty, exactly the kind of thing that will make people will themselves sick (if they come to believe that their measures are ineffective).
Marek's disease can also effect other birds like geese etc. So there are unvaxxed bird populations that must at least occasionally be affected by Marek's disease.
Is there still a more harmless form in wild populations? Or are wild populations somehow more resistant to the strain present among chicken?
Geese, i believe, are affected by a different alphaherpesvirus, causing duck viral enteritis.
Mareks disease is present in various birds, above all though in turkeys and chickens. There are three serotypes, serotype 1 primarily infects chickens and is the most pathogenic - it's the one everyone wants to vaxx against.
Serotype 2 mostly causes mild disease. Serotype 3, the Turkey Herpes Virus, doesn't make chickens sick, and is the basis of many chicken vaxx, because chickens with immunity to serotype 3 are protected also against serotype 1. Interestingly, this doesn't seem to work the other way. Turkeys who have had exposure to serotype 3 *aren't* protected against serotype 1.
While some wild birds, including turkeys, will get Mareks, they're not as widely affected, because they're not subject to the same extremely dense living conditions of industrialised agriculture.
I wonder if they had only vaccinated half the birds if some of the unvaccinated would have been able to evolve with the virus. More than likely a lot of them would have died initially but the suvivors immune system might have kept up with the evolving virus? By mass vaccinating caged populations for an extended time and then exposing unvaccinated birds they propably didn't have a chance. Kind of makes you wonder about the obsession with lockdowns and vaccinating the young. The health nazis don't want people to develop a natural immune response? Vaccinated or not might New Zealanders find themselves in trouble if their zero covid stratedy "succeeds" only to be exposed at a much later date to an evolved virus? Like measels and Rotuma Island in 1911
This article you shared seems terribly inaccurate. Inflated death rates, super-inflated perspective on the effectiveness of the vaccine, completely ignoring the un-correlation between lockdown efforts and vaccine rates country to country, completely ignoring how COVID has other animal hosts. The reason the world is abandoning the zero-COVID strategy is because the world tried and failed. There is no one-world government that can control every human life on this planet, which is what it would take to implement the necessary interventions at the necessary strictness the world over to *eventually* achieve zero COVID.
Just curious, did you share this article to emphasize the fallacies out there, or do you agree with it, and share it as an objection to this article?
I'm convinced that Delta has been "Mareked". Each new day brings another story of an antivaxxer passing from Covid. All under 60, and most in what appears to be good shape. Last year only the old and infirm passed. And I hear stories from friends and family about the unvaxxed passing after a struggle with delta. Delta is much more dangerous than anyone realizes.
informative and not hyperbolic. We need more of this type of comms
I agree. This was exactly what I needed to read.
There is panic & hyperventilation plenty, exactly the kind of thing that will make people will themselves sick (if they come to believe that their measures are ineffective).
Marek's disease can also effect other birds like geese etc. So there are unvaxxed bird populations that must at least occasionally be affected by Marek's disease.
Is there still a more harmless form in wild populations? Or are wild populations somehow more resistant to the strain present among chicken?
Geese, i believe, are affected by a different alphaherpesvirus, causing duck viral enteritis.
Mareks disease is present in various birds, above all though in turkeys and chickens. There are three serotypes, serotype 1 primarily infects chickens and is the most pathogenic - it's the one everyone wants to vaxx against.
Serotype 2 mostly causes mild disease. Serotype 3, the Turkey Herpes Virus, doesn't make chickens sick, and is the basis of many chicken vaxx, because chickens with immunity to serotype 3 are protected also against serotype 1. Interestingly, this doesn't seem to work the other way. Turkeys who have had exposure to serotype 3 *aren't* protected against serotype 1.
While some wild birds, including turkeys, will get Mareks, they're not as widely affected, because they're not subject to the same extremely dense living conditions of industrialised agriculture.
I wonder if they had only vaccinated half the birds if some of the unvaccinated would have been able to evolve with the virus. More than likely a lot of them would have died initially but the suvivors immune system might have kept up with the evolving virus? By mass vaccinating caged populations for an extended time and then exposing unvaccinated birds they propably didn't have a chance. Kind of makes you wonder about the obsession with lockdowns and vaccinating the young. The health nazis don't want people to develop a natural immune response? Vaccinated or not might New Zealanders find themselves in trouble if their zero covid stratedy "succeeds" only to be exposed at a much later date to an evolved virus? Like measels and Rotuma Island in 1911
I never vaccinated any of my chickens, and they were all fine (although we never had more than 6 at a time)
I can't find feed stores that sell unvaccinated chicks :(
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/hilarious-study-confirms-monoclonal-antibody-treatments-are-driving-emergence-of-antibody-resistant-variants-but-corrupted-us-agencies-are-promoting-t
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/stupid-morons-saying-that-we-should-learn-to-live-with-the-virus-or-that-if-covid-19-becomes-endemic,-everything-is-going-to-be-ok
This article you shared seems terribly inaccurate. Inflated death rates, super-inflated perspective on the effectiveness of the vaccine, completely ignoring the un-correlation between lockdown efforts and vaccine rates country to country, completely ignoring how COVID has other animal hosts. The reason the world is abandoning the zero-COVID strategy is because the world tried and failed. There is no one-world government that can control every human life on this planet, which is what it would take to implement the necessary interventions at the necessary strictness the world over to *eventually* achieve zero COVID.
Just curious, did you share this article to emphasize the fallacies out there, or do you agree with it, and share it as an objection to this article?
I'm convinced that Delta has been "Mareked". Each new day brings another story of an antivaxxer passing from Covid. All under 60, and most in what appears to be good shape. Last year only the old and infirm passed. And I hear stories from friends and family about the unvaxxed passing after a struggle with delta. Delta is much more dangerous than anyone realizes.