Just to be clear are you saying that this quasi-symbiosis is because the common theme of being anti-AfD unites the other parties due to their advanced ideological decay?
So, in turn, thats the reason more people are becoming sympathetic to AfD?
I think two separate things are happening: AfD opposition is useful to unite the left; this opposition makes the AfD more credible as an alternative party and so they attract more votes than they might otherwise as the establishment becomes increasingly unpopular for other reasons.
Tools these imbeciles took from their spawn anti-USA democrats (apologies Fetterman - never did I think 1 year ago I would think that!).
The Trump hate weaponized by these fascist (irony anybody?) lackies is a tool imported by Nazi dems in office (orifice?).
It mobilizes the brainless lemming stooges who always follow orders without question.
Fools do not realize it hardens the already concrete resolve of Conservatives and true Republicans, and has influenced semi-reasonable dems who want nothing to do with the party of communism that left them many, many years ago.
I think it fosters a great sense of purpose, cameraderie, and togetherness among the various groups on the left and the semi-left formerly called the centrist right to have this common enemy to unite against, nonwithstanding their ideological differences: the noble puprose of fighting against Revenant 1933 unites them.
AfD can just lean back - they get all the benefits of being a political party without actually having power and responsibility. I suppose at one point they'll have that, but will be fought tooth and nail by the entrenched bureaucracies as well as by the then opposition. For now, they're doing a little light rest & relax and biding their time.
It's mostly a haggling position: make the limp liberalism of 90s most "populism" represents look like paradise in comparison to loony left. Thatcher did the same maneuver: make basic 'market liberalism' look good by deliberately having terrible comedy left politics as the alternative.
The boot must sporadically be pointlessly annoying, so you feel relief when it is merely crushing you quietly.
As a general thing, and for many if not most of the participants, I think protests like this are not meant to have any functional effect on the thing they're protesting (stopping the AfD congress, for instance), but rather serving as emotional tribal membership reinforcement.
The POSIWID principle is remarkably general and accurate - quite insightful if applied to our vaunted liberal democracy as well (which is not so liberal or full of freedom as taught in government schools).
I think the main purpose of all this brouhaha at this point is not so much to protest the AfD or even to inhibit its party convention. At this point it is mostly directed as a signal to the other parties, especially the CDU: to throw so much dirt and opprobium at the AfD that every other party (mainly the CDUCSU) don't dare build a coalition with them. The AfD is not the objective here anymore.
Chicks and feminized males are the most attracted to popularity and luxury belief virtue signaling as a way to maintain their social status. The Madison Avenue Ad Men have known this for long while. These are the people that are more easily influenced to "buy this", and so the left political movements have just adopted the same for "oppose this", "support this", "vote for this", etc... as being required to maintain that high social status.
That is the game.
And it is why they cannot let up on a continued massive marketing campaign to make sure AfD is punched down as lower class stuff.
It is the same tactic the Democrats use against Trump and Republicans.
I think one important effect of the antifa funding that does actually hurt the AfD is depressing their candidate / party worker quality. The protests are just one big retarded circus, but the same scene also brings forth a lot of low-level terrorism, from graffiti and burning bags of turds on the front doors of AfD functionaries, via arson against cars and IIRC houses, to the hammer gang.
The most important part of that terrorism is the ostentatiously lazy prosecution and disproportionately low sentences it attracts, otherwise only available to developmentally challenged migroids, if it even gets all the way to trial.
It all sends a message to pragmatic, effective people that the elite is united against the opposition. These potential opposition workers will thus mostly desist, at most quietly working on emigration*, in extreme cases of pragmatism actively joining the united system – history shows that it’s at worst great positioning if a collapse ever happens. What remains is people without much to lose.
* Emigration is also a benefit for the system as long as it doesn’t withdraw too much productivity, cf Curley effect!
If I thought they were smarter I'd say they were calibrating the pressure-cooker valve expertly but I think it's an accidental outcome.
Leading to our not winning even as they lose. Not enough steam yet for the ordinary person to feel truly angry about the past decade or so of relentless idiocy.
Protest as a business model. Turns out it's not really all that good a business model, but without AfD as the protest movement's whipping boy all those thousands of malcontents would need to find another target for their vexation and that just might be the sluggish German economy or the crime rates in the country. It's interesting how every major democracy in Europe and the Anglosphere is suffering to varying degrees from the excesses of left-wing socialist economic, demographic, and cultural policies inflicted upon these various nations' citizenry over the past four to five decades. Yet each nation has its own peculiar idiosyncratic reaction to and relationship with the damage caused by said policies. Germany has a situation where the government is enhancing its own opposition,; Britain's beginning to see some more strident protests, sometimes leaning more towards riots, by its sheep-like native born old stock (i.e: Caucasian) citizenry; and here in Canada our people continue to freely elect the most corrupt obtuse federal government this country has ever seen while separatism has become a major force in 3 out of 10 province's where this used to be a thing in only Quebec for a third of a century and was barely on the radar a half a century before that. Alberta's separatist movement will likely fail in this go around but the idea won't go away and though I won't be around to see it I expect Canada will look much different on a world map in the year 2100.
I suspect our referendum will fail, this time, but the federal liberals will conspire to make it worse, they always do. Fixing the problem requires relinquishing their death grip on day to day life, well beyond their capability.
One small benefit of the AfD Derangement Syndrome that perhaps works in the favor of rational Germans of whatever party is that it is now the left's (from center to far) sole discernible policy--and other parties (such as AfD) gain voice and audience for actual governmental policies other than "We oppose the AfD". Those on your far left may make the same mistake as our Democratic Socialists, actively espousing Communism to the barking dog pack of young, inexperienced, under-educated adolescent adults of any age and their reasonably well-off middle-aged Karens, adding further to their high visibility and lower electability. We can only hope.
It will be interesting to see if the German left start to adopt the antisemitism drumbeat taking place in the Democrat Party and their tentacle affiliates. With the unfettered Moslem immigration, it’s likely implied.
May the European left never learn what the Streisand effect is.
People, people who need people…
Hold on, before I comment.
Just to be clear are you saying that this quasi-symbiosis is because the common theme of being anti-AfD unites the other parties due to their advanced ideological decay?
So, in turn, thats the reason more people are becoming sympathetic to AfD?
I think two separate things are happening: AfD opposition is useful to unite the left; this opposition makes the AfD more credible as an alternative party and so they attract more votes than they might otherwise as the establishment becomes increasingly unpopular for other reasons.
that makes sense. it was so counterintuitive i was having a hard time getting my brain around it
I agree. The insane only treat them as a threat because they are a threat.
A threat, yes; to the insane.
Tools these imbeciles took from their spawn anti-USA democrats (apologies Fetterman - never did I think 1 year ago I would think that!).
The Trump hate weaponized by these fascist (irony anybody?) lackies is a tool imported by Nazi dems in office (orifice?).
It mobilizes the brainless lemming stooges who always follow orders without question.
Fools do not realize it hardens the already concrete resolve of Conservatives and true Republicans, and has influenced semi-reasonable dems who want nothing to do with the party of communism that left them many, many years ago.
Looks like Nazi oligarchy there and in US to me 😩
I think it fosters a great sense of purpose, cameraderie, and togetherness among the various groups on the left and the semi-left formerly called the centrist right to have this common enemy to unite against, nonwithstanding their ideological differences: the noble puprose of fighting against Revenant 1933 unites them.
AfD can just lean back - they get all the benefits of being a political party without actually having power and responsibility. I suppose at one point they'll have that, but will be fought tooth and nail by the entrenched bureaucracies as well as by the then opposition. For now, they're doing a little light rest & relax and biding their time.
It's mostly a haggling position: make the limp liberalism of 90s most "populism" represents look like paradise in comparison to loony left. Thatcher did the same maneuver: make basic 'market liberalism' look good by deliberately having terrible comedy left politics as the alternative.
The boot must sporadically be pointlessly annoying, so you feel relief when it is merely crushing you quietly.
Your last sentence is so perfect.
the random stomping makes the steady crushing feel like customer service.
Mostly peaceful crushing.
I guess excess money and youthful enthusiasm not spent on productive things have to be channeled somewhere....
Alternative hypothesis, instead of POSIWID the cartel parties are just filled with retards.
As a general thing, and for many if not most of the participants, I think protests like this are not meant to have any functional effect on the thing they're protesting (stopping the AfD congress, for instance), but rather serving as emotional tribal membership reinforcement.
Say whatever else you like about antifa, at least they have fun umbrellas.
The POSIWID principle is remarkably general and accurate - quite insightful if applied to our vaunted liberal democracy as well (which is not so liberal or full of freedom as taught in government schools).
I think the main purpose of all this brouhaha at this point is not so much to protest the AfD or even to inhibit its party convention. At this point it is mostly directed as a signal to the other parties, especially the CDU: to throw so much dirt and opprobium at the AfD that every other party (mainly the CDUCSU) don't dare build a coalition with them. The AfD is not the objective here anymore.
It was always that, the point is it won’t matter as individuals turn to the AfD.
Hold my Beer—isn't this essentially "actions speak louder than words"?
Chicks and feminized males are the most attracted to popularity and luxury belief virtue signaling as a way to maintain their social status. The Madison Avenue Ad Men have known this for long while. These are the people that are more easily influenced to "buy this", and so the left political movements have just adopted the same for "oppose this", "support this", "vote for this", etc... as being required to maintain that high social status.
That is the game.
And it is why they cannot let up on a continued massive marketing campaign to make sure AfD is punched down as lower class stuff.
It is the same tactic the Democrats use against Trump and Republicans.
I view advertising, marketing, PR, propaganda, and political messaging as all exactly the same thing.
As I keep repeating (to a tiresome degree), Edward Bernays has a lot to answer for.
I think one important effect of the antifa funding that does actually hurt the AfD is depressing their candidate / party worker quality. The protests are just one big retarded circus, but the same scene also brings forth a lot of low-level terrorism, from graffiti and burning bags of turds on the front doors of AfD functionaries, via arson against cars and IIRC houses, to the hammer gang.
The most important part of that terrorism is the ostentatiously lazy prosecution and disproportionately low sentences it attracts, otherwise only available to developmentally challenged migroids, if it even gets all the way to trial.
It all sends a message to pragmatic, effective people that the elite is united against the opposition. These potential opposition workers will thus mostly desist, at most quietly working on emigration*, in extreme cases of pragmatism actively joining the united system – history shows that it’s at worst great positioning if a collapse ever happens. What remains is people without much to lose.
* Emigration is also a benefit for the system as long as it doesn’t withdraw too much productivity, cf Curley effect!
A very elegant summation.
If I thought they were smarter I'd say they were calibrating the pressure-cooker valve expertly but I think it's an accidental outcome.
Leading to our not winning even as they lose. Not enough steam yet for the ordinary person to feel truly angry about the past decade or so of relentless idiocy.
Protest as a business model. Turns out it's not really all that good a business model, but without AfD as the protest movement's whipping boy all those thousands of malcontents would need to find another target for their vexation and that just might be the sluggish German economy or the crime rates in the country. It's interesting how every major democracy in Europe and the Anglosphere is suffering to varying degrees from the excesses of left-wing socialist economic, demographic, and cultural policies inflicted upon these various nations' citizenry over the past four to five decades. Yet each nation has its own peculiar idiosyncratic reaction to and relationship with the damage caused by said policies. Germany has a situation where the government is enhancing its own opposition,; Britain's beginning to see some more strident protests, sometimes leaning more towards riots, by its sheep-like native born old stock (i.e: Caucasian) citizenry; and here in Canada our people continue to freely elect the most corrupt obtuse federal government this country has ever seen while separatism has become a major force in 3 out of 10 province's where this used to be a thing in only Quebec for a third of a century and was barely on the radar a half a century before that. Alberta's separatist movement will likely fail in this go around but the idea won't go away and though I won't be around to see it I expect Canada will look much different on a world map in the year 2100.
I suspect our referendum will fail, this time, but the federal liberals will conspire to make it worse, they always do. Fixing the problem requires relinquishing their death grip on day to day life, well beyond their capability.
One small benefit of the AfD Derangement Syndrome that perhaps works in the favor of rational Germans of whatever party is that it is now the left's (from center to far) sole discernible policy--and other parties (such as AfD) gain voice and audience for actual governmental policies other than "We oppose the AfD". Those on your far left may make the same mistake as our Democratic Socialists, actively espousing Communism to the barking dog pack of young, inexperienced, under-educated adolescent adults of any age and their reasonably well-off middle-aged Karens, adding further to their high visibility and lower electability. We can only hope.
And Democrats in general, who have nothing more to offer than Orange Man Bad.
It will be interesting to see if the German left start to adopt the antisemitism drumbeat taking place in the Democrat Party and their tentacle affiliates. With the unfettered Moslem immigration, it’s likely implied.