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David Shane's avatar

Obvious point, but it's a mass media problem at least as much as a political problem that, somehow, whatever is happening today must be more dramatic than whatever happened yesterday. I roll my eyes at clickbait while, at the same time, I must acknowledge that apparently it's producing the desired result upon a whole lot of people.

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Danno's avatar

Exactly. 20 years ago (has it been that long?) any weather event with spectacular footage produced big television audience ratings for The Weather Channel, which in turn produced big ad revenues. They also found that even better than weather porn was widespread fear. The programmers weren't stupid, and started hyping even potential storms as the 'storm of the century'. That has evolved into the weather websites' pursuit of clickbait.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Absolutely right. I don’t know when the phrase “severe weather “ became common (20-30 years ago?), but to me it connotes fear and danger. In the 70s & 80s, a typical on-the-hour report lasted a few seconds and an anonymous voice gave you the day’s high & low temps, and maybe said something about high humidity, frost, and the chance of rain / snow . . maybe a thunderstorm.

Then came the word “severe”, and along with it, personalities, fear, warnings!, marketing, and a profit center.

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Tardigrade's avatar

The advent of cable TV and The Weather Channel contributed quite a lot. How else could you fill up 24 hours of weather news without, like, inventing some weather news?

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Winter Storm names.

In 2012-2013 TheWeatherChannel began naming winter storms like hurricanes are named. Claimed it was a public service, helping to alert viewers to weather hazards in their communities. NWC and NOAA said it was a terrible idea, would lessen the impact of real threats like hurricanes, cheapen the public's attention. But TWC went forward and has been using names for winter storms ever since.

The real reason: Giving storms a name is a psychological ploy, tried and true, that builds connection to the story. Much like soap operas, people will tune in to see what the new "character" is going to do next. More eyes on TV sets, ad revenue. And even though NWC and NOAA don't name winter storms you'll find the major networks and local station weathercasts will use the TWC's named storms for the winter storms, even though official government sources don't. Same reason: Eyes on TV sets, ad revenue.

The power of the story. With "characters." It's a moneymaker. Weather as entertainment (news, too) is the model. Not weather as information. And the fact that it helps push the climate change/fear porn narrative is a bonus.

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Henrybowman's avatar

You can't.

I've never lived anywhere where cable TV was available, but occasionally I spend a day or few at some RV park that offers cable. I was dismayed at how fast The Nature Channel had degenerated into The Game Warden Badge-Kissing Channel.

But then again, I am old enough to remember when MTV featured actual music videos of actual music, wall-to-wall, instead of BS interviews and analysis.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I'm old enough to remember before MTV. When it showed up, I couldn't understand the attraction 😬

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Danno's avatar

I watched because for the first year or so, the content could be awesome -- way different from anything else on cable TV -- from footage from old rock concerts, to creative video projects with little or no connection to music as late-night fillers. It was a sort of an analog predecessor to Youtube.

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Henrybowman's avatar

It was American Bandstand for introverts.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Right - same on steroids re CNN, MSMBC, etc. To paraphrase: the medium must generate a message.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I spotted this story earlier in the week about how several states urgently warned that drinking coffee was dangerous - because of the weather! Sure, there's a bit of truth to caffeine being a diuretic, dehydrating. But so are many things. Small risk, never worth a moment's thought:

https://parade.com/food/states-to-not-consume-coffee-during-heatwave

When you read through the piece you'll find "experts" quoted, but none named. No link to any source that could validate the urgent caution. Just the assertion of the writer. And that was where I first noticed the term "explanatory journalist." Apparently a term for a long time, escaped my eye until that article. While they portray themselves as providing context and details to news stories, a service to readers they are nothing more than propagandists. Hired shills for whatever propaganda needs "explaining."

And when the entire western world is shilling for the same exact subject, urgent heat warnings even in cool places like Germany, you know you in the middle of an active global propaganda campaign. Just like the Plandemic. Just like the BLM riots - that were also held across Europe in the summer of 2020, where there's few blacks or history of black slavery. Global propaganda narrative: Heat Wave. Hint: Summer is a heat wave.

I thought nothing more of it after identifying it. And then my wife's father, who watches MSM 24/7 was talking to her about how horrible the current heat wave was. The man is 80, he's seen worse heat waves in his life, we all have. But his mind has been turned to mush by that 24/7 MSM that he's forgotten that it's summer. He is who these global propagandists like the "explanatory journalists" are targeting. He is a walking, talking parrot of the latest pictures and sounds to come across his TV screen. Sad. They're completely gone upstairs.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Its quite amazing.

"A few weeks ago, our Health Ministry partnered with the German Olympic Sports Confederation to produce a truly delusional “heat protection plan” for recreational sport. This bizarre document urgently advised Germans to avoid alcoholic, sugary and caffeinated drinks at sporting events, and also to refrain from such ordinary activities as barbecuing – all “to better protect participants and spectators … from heat-related health risks.”

Let's just say it got to triple digits Fahrenheit, I don't remember (playing baseball or any other activities during summer) when we were growing up for that to be a huge deal. We literally just drank more water and found shade if it was really bad. Nobody had to be told that.

I mean, im pretty sure we didn't need to be told that when we branched off from chimpanzees 7 mil years ago.

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John Bowman's avatar

O to be in England. Our two sports, cricket and football. Cricket is played in Summer - a match can last up to four days - and players wear long, flannel trousers, long sleeve shirts and woollen pullovers (also called jumpers, jerseys), and a cap similar to a baseball cap. Football is a Winter sport and players wear lightweight cotton tops, shorts, socks; matches last for 90 minutes.

In cricket “play” is frequently interrupted by rain or bad light… and of course for tea at 4pm. Football is interrupted only if players cannot see each other through the fog or blizzard; rain does not stop play.

All of which tells us about Britain’s climate, and the locals’ attitude to it.

As for the Climatists and their Climageddon… Bah! Humbug!

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LouW's avatar

They tell you to "avoid alcoholic, sugary and caffeinated drinks". Great advice when the biggest threat from heat is heat exhaustion caused by dehydration. You wouldn't want to drink lots of a cold tasty beverage to prevent that. Yes, I know a liter of water is better for you than a liter of soda or beer, but a liter of soda (or 2) will prevent you from getting dehydrated (even if it is a diuretic). There have been days here in Arizona where it was well above 40 degrees C, and I drank a thirstbuster (a very large soft drink) while working outside and had no problems. I think avoiding tasty drinks is terrible advice. It "almost" like they want to make the problem worse.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

It's more than just clickbait. It's a racket. By climate racketeers.

Integrating Social and Behavioral Sciences Within the Weather Enterprise

National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, 2018.

https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/24865/chapter/1

https://doi.org/10.17226/24865

Social and Behavioral Sciences are the science of psychology-informed propaganda. The science of symbolic masks, nudges, how to alter the targeted population's perceptions to affect desired behavior changes and beliefs. It's mind-farkery. Madison Avenue advertising in service to the government and their affiliated racketeers. Another word for "Enterprise" is racket.

The guide above tells all about what the Climate racket does, how it does it, who's in on it. A prosecutor has all it needs in the guide above to round up the racketeers and charge, convict them. If we had a justice system that also wasn't in on the racket. So they put it in our faces, knowing they can coordinate their mind-farkery against us with impunity.

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Lerkison's avatar

I find funny the now-prevalent use of the term "atmospheric river" to describe a hard rainstorm, which, of course, they blame on climate change.

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Julia's avatar

We now also have the “polar vortex”, “derecho”, “heat dome”, and maybe one or two others. I’m 60+ now, and I assure you that I never heard any of that until the past 10-15 years.

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William Foster's avatar

LOL, I want to slap the shit out of anyone at the weather channel or anywhere else that uses that non-meteorological term.

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It'sUglyOutThere's avatar

I was going to make a similar comment. Atmospheric River sounds far more foreboding than the old "Winter Storm Track", which implies a mundane and common occurance. It's s all about the drama and intent to cause fear. The narrative has grown really tiresome.

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Christine Summerson's avatar

When the sun went largely without sun spots in the 1600s, the earth got colder. This was the Maunder Minimum, in the middle of the Little Ice Age that started in the 1300s. Then both reversed and we’ve gotten this intense warming since the mid-1800s, but no warmer than it was 1,000 years ago. (Greenland ice core readings indicating that Greenland is still much cooler than 1000 years ago.) For a thoroughgoing deconstruction of climate-change alarmism, readers might be interested in this Substack in The Menelaus Gambit https://ernestdlieberman.substack.com/p/climate-change-alarmists-ignore-how

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Fredo's avatar

Sure, but the hype always seems to surround left wing narratives. So politics and ideology seem to drive what is the focus of the hype.

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UnvaxxedCanadian's avatar

In my part of Canada we have 2 days of 32c coming and then back to the 25’s. It’s been cooler summers and terrible springs for the past few years. Though nature balances it out with nice weather into November. There are fires out west and there is even talk in the media that it’s from 150 years of experts suppressing forest fires because -experts said so-. Along with the obligatory your road trip last week contributed.0000000004% to the planet’s overall temperature rise 🫠 zzzzzzz

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Same in Southern Ontario.

Forecast for Monday is 34°C.

It won't happen.

31° tops.

My advice; don't go jogging on Monday, get some cold beer and enjoy it b4 we go back to -30°C in January.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Update:

I was wrong...

Currently 35°C

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Chief Bridge Fuser's avatar

This year, I've appreciated that you all up there have shipped less of your eastern forest fire smoke down here. I guess nobody can afford the tariffs.

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Martin Liehs's avatar

To add to the fearporn, "humidex" values are increasingly being used interchangeably with actual temperatures in the Great Lakes basin.

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Warmek's avatar

It's amazing that those forests survived hundreds of millions of years without fire suppression... 🤣

It'll hit 37 C here today. Fortunately, at only 10% humidity.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Funny, I see plenty of Teslas in the summer...

Zero from January thru March.

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SCA's avatar

The Daily Mail Online was wonderful about this the other day. "...warns residents of these three states that drinking coffee [during the heatwave] can result in death within minutes!" And with there being no coincidences in life, that Star Trek episode about the salt-seeking monster that desiccated its victims in an instant was just on too!

Even when I was a kid, a long long time ago, we had these things called hot summers and one could buy romper suits in all sizes from toddler to adult because that's what you wear when it's scorching out and in the summer it was always scorching out even in the Northeast and that's why everyone who could went to the bungalow colonies in the Catskills to enjoy the scorching summers properly.

Geez, I mean seriously..

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Steersman's avatar

"The sky is falling!! Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!" 😉🙂

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SCA's avatar

The entire history of social grouping of humans is basically anything you want to do, and anything happening anywhere, is bad. Somehow, some way, we'll find the way to call it bad. That's why language was invented. To say "bad!"

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Steersman's avatar

🙂 Some merit in that idea, except that some things actually are "bad" -- why we have "edible" and "poisonous". Awareness of that dichotomy goes back a long ways into many "lower-order" species.

In a note from our sponsor ..., y'all might have some interest in my post, circa 2018, on The Imperative of Categories:

https://humanuseofhumanbeings.substack.com/p/the-imperative-of-categories

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SCA's avatar

Yes. But we didn't need language for it. [Cat makes bad face and pukes all over the primeval foliage.]

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Steersman's avatar

Language is all about signs and meanings we attach to them -- semiotics if I'm not mistaken.

"bad face and pukes" is simply a sign from one cat to another that whatever Felix ate should probably be taken off the menu for the rest of the tribe.

If I'm not mistaken, I've linked to the article on "taxonomy is the oldest profession" in that Categories post, and which you indicated some appreciation for.

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SCA's avatar

The immediate question at hand is whether "feh!" counts as a word...

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Hello? Is that Al Gore?

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Charlotte's avatar

I read that Daily Mail article and I was chuckling throughout. Someone better tell Cubans that their cortaditos (espresso shot with sugar) are now lethal in the summer lol

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SCA's avatar

And the Turks and the Greeks and the entire Middle East, etc. etc. I lived for awhile in South Asia and the summers regularly hit 110-120F and we drank hot tea all day.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

IN documentaries of the Saharan nomads, you see them boiling water and then drinking the coffee almost boiling! I think it is the opposite - ice cold drinks in hot weather seem to be way worse.

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SCA's avatar

We must teach them literacy so they can read the Daily Mail Online and save themselves before it's too late.

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baker charlie's avatar

I know! Savages!

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SCA's avatar

And people think there's no need for white saviors.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I remember as a kid, after digging up the potatoes we ran barefoot on the hot soil, in our bathing suits. Later we bathed in a large laundry tub mom put out in the sun. And in 1996 or 97 on holiday in Bavaria it was in the mid 30s.

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SCA's avatar

Think of the horrible dystopian world I came from where all the little kids wore rubber beach shoes (not flipflops, ballet-like slip-ons) because the sand was scorching.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

oh I remember these too. They came in all kind of bubble gum colours, some kind of see- through rubbery substance. A nice slide into memory lane SCA !

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Jolene's avatar

Jelly shoes! We had these in the 70’s and 80’s and I had completely forgotten about them until now.

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SCA's avatar

They were nicely embossed too with floral or arabesque designs to match the swim caps, weren't they?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Not sure if we had the same ones... ours were jelly like. I did not wear a swim cap at the time. I have to look that up LOL

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Tardigrade's avatar

Swim caps were required for girls in public pools. I guess they were worried about the drains clogging with hair.

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SCA's avatar

I remember thin opaque rubber.

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Tardigrade's avatar

We just had flip-flops. Your beach shoes might be an East Coast thing.

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SCA's avatar

Or a generational or half-generational thing. I started out being a kid in the '50s and finished being a kid in the '60s.

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Tardigrade's avatar

We're the same age 😎

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SCA's avatar

Yeah, but when in the '50s?

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SCA's avatar

Fire escapes. They wuz for sleeping in the summer.

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SCA's avatar

Even the worst people did it too!

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Henrybowman's avatar

"Before cooling systems became affordable in the late 1930s, [Phoenix] residents slumbered in screened outdoor rooms or lawns, wrapped in damp sheets, hoping to catch a breeze. “There were ‘sprinkler brigades’ in many neighborhoods, where people would sleep outdoors on cots with sheets over their bodies,” Adam Goettl told the Arizona Republic in 1990. “They’d all take turns hosing each other down.”

https://www.phoenixmag.com/2018/06/01/the-big-chill/

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Gary S.'s avatar

Yes, and in Missouri, whole families would sleep in city parks in he hottest summer days prior to practically everyone having air conditioning. (Also, BTW, at swimming pools, people would change clothes in tree shade.)

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Charlotte's avatar

Historically, older people moved to warmer climates whenever possible, to improve their quality of life. See Florida. It’s incredible how they gaslight us about summer deaths while ignoring the winter deaths as they kill off pensioners with energy price increases they cannot afford.

I’m also going to have to listen to Glass Animals now lol.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

And half of Europe going on holiday in Spain, Portugal, Greece and other hot countries during summer vacation.

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Danno's avatar

And don't forget about hurricanes, which can be hyped as the 'next Katrina'.

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Matthew McWilliams's avatar

A subsidiary freakout that seems to always accompany the general climate freakout is the water usage freakout. This type of freakout is quite prevalent in the southwestern United States, which is largely desert and subdesert. There is no end of freaking out about how we are all going to die of thirst because the Earth is running out of water. No one ever seems to notice that fully three quarters of the Earth's surface is covered by water, and it's several miles deep in places. Desalination is actually quite prevalent and scalable. But let someone suggest tapping into the vast oceans to satisfy the coastal cities and you trigger yet another subsidiary freakout about killing all the crabs and starfish in the ocean. There can never be a solution, because eNvIrOnMeNt.

The Earth does not have a climate problem, and certainly not a water problem. It does however have a retard problem.

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Warmek's avatar

The planet is *completely* polluted with retards. I bet if we cleaned all of them up, the climate would cease to be a concern...

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Gary S.'s avatar

Where I live, we have plenty of water, and we get the same water-is-scarce propaganda. On the other hand, until a year or two ago, the Colorado River watershed was undergoing a possibly cyclic decrease in water, & that really was a political and economic problem in the US & Mexico.

In my current thinking, there are too many people in North America, and bringing in more from other overpopulated regions is not helpful.

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jim's avatar

What's the problem? Aren't there any beer gardens in Germany anymore?

This is a great opportunity to mandate air conditioners in every home and office in Germany. Powered by windmills and solar panels.

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

When I become president ,I will mandate that every home must have a windmill outside .The wind will blow the snow away in winter ,and cool the house in summer . Hot air driving the wind mill ,will come from the government building down the street .

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Dag Waddell's avatar

They’ve succeeded in making people so anxious they can’t even enjoy a good old fashioned heatwave anymore. We used to love them, they always meant a perfect day at the lake or something else along those same lines. And people are afraid of the sun, the thought of daring to step out into it without a gallon of sunscreen on is just too much. Yet, skin cancer rates have increased since all the emphasis on sunscreen and avoiding the sun, but that obviously is the fault of the sun that hasn’t changed in a billion years. Who knew people would fall for every fake crisis so easily.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The argument from the climate alarmists is "so you don't care if people die" when you point out that the old and sick have to die sometime, as do we all. They also talk about "needless deaths" as if this were something meaningful.

What is a "needful death?"

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

These are the same people who didn't mind offing all the old folks during the covid hoax.

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Usamnesia's avatar

Maybe a few of the overlords?

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Henrybowman's avatar

Annoying climate alarmist high on that list...?

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Last week an Italian newspaper reported a heat-death, from a farm worker. At the end of the article the reporter was kind enough to state, that the man was from Africa.

Remember also, that in 2022 not only you had a heat wave but also a jab wave. Although hot weather is tiresome (I am from Belgium but now living in GA, USA) I don't think it is deadly at all. I think cold weather is in fact more dangerous for frail old people. I hear from family back in Belgium that they have no airco in the rooms in the elderly home, but the dining area and the kitchen do, so everyone either is out in the shade, or in the diner. Many Meme-ists have posted the UK map from 25 years ago with temperatures in the high 20s in green, and last year's with exactly the same temperatures, all in red. I also read an article just days ago, that the pole cap is bigger than it was in 1979. The author seemed to think we are in between ice ages, and we are now having the nice weather and then it will go down.

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Gary S.'s avatar

The south pole cap is larger & the north pole cap smaller.

https://earth.gsfc.nasa.gov/cryo/data/current-state-sea-ice-cover

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

thanks !

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air dog's avatar

"We now live in a secular world, but we still have a deeply religious approach to many things, including the weather."

The religion is Communism. Climate hysteria is just its holiest sacrament.

Clumsy as it may be, this is all propaganda to someday justify taking away our right to travel by air, to drive a car, to run or work in a factory, etc.

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Colin Hunt's avatar

Germany experienced this directly once before. Only communist governments build walls to keep their own populations imprisoned so they won't escape to somewhere else. In Germany it was built in 1961 and called the Berlin Wall.

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Warmek's avatar

Ahhh, but the *official* name (translated from German, of course) was "The Antifascist Protection Wall". It was for protection. Of the East Germans. From the horrible fascism of West Berlin. Because, you see, anything that isn't Soviet Communism is "fascism", in their parlance.

Keep that in mind the next time you hear about Antifa.

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Colin Hunt's avatar

Oh I agree. Totalitarian governments lie about just about everything all the time. Admittedly, all governments everywhere are in the business of lying about everything to everyone. But with complete control of all media via censorship, there is no one and nothing to challenge their "Prava". This is exactly why the current German government is so determined to control various non-standard media outlets like access to websites and restrictions or outright control of things like X. This is why they, like Starmer's government in Britain, is arresting hundreds for speech not approved by government.

As for Antifa, amusing that you bring that one up. Their name is humourous to say the least. They wear black uniforms and in tactics, ideology they are identical with the Sturmabteilung of the 1930s. Even more, in their anti-Jewish protesting in various western cities, they have adopted the official antiSemitism of the NSDAP.

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Warmek's avatar

Not surprising, really, given that they were founded to *be* the Sturmabteilung of the KPD in the 1930s.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'They want everyone to know that “model calculations” are suddenly threatening us with temperatures in excess of 40 degrees'

Most people seem unaware of the unreliability of modeling, especially climate modeling. The test of a model is its ability to make accurate predictions, and climate modeling has notoriously fallen far short.

Any time you hear the word "model", you should reach for a generous helping of salt.

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JustANobody's avatar

Which is actually kinda good for you with the right kind.. Considering we are made up of it too!

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JustANobody's avatar

Gotta pay to read it looks like.

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Tardigrade's avatar

If Henry's archive link doesn't work, try https://archive.ph/ZxiBw

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JustANobody's avatar

I know.. Thanks for the link though.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Other people might not be aware how politicized the subject is :-)

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JustANobody's avatar

True that!

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Viv's avatar

I was in England for about a week until yesterday. Yesterday and the day before were pleasantly warm. Paddling pool/sprinkler weather, for those with younger offspring.

Instead, the government propaganda channels targeted at those who still watch them were filled to the brim with "amber warnings".

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Simon Baddeley's avatar

Do you mean 'we're all going to die'? Wasn't that in Nostradamus?

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Vivian Evans's avatar

The insanity - it's not just concentrated in Germany, we have the same official 'climate' nutters ehre in the UK - the insanity is that they use 'models' which, as they acknowledge, may or may not come true. They all seem to thrive nonliving in constant apprehension and even fear, trying to spread their misery across nations.

No wonder so many more people now claim to suffer from anxiety ...

Btw - there's a brilliant citizen journalist who has been checking out every weather Station the UK, run by the Met Office, showing how inadequate and wrong they are, especially those which are used by the Met Office and the BBC to screech about 'heatwaves' - as if three days of nice, warm weather in the late 20ºC would make a 'heatwave'. Some of us remember the summer of 1976 ...

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Dawn's avatar

Who is the journalist please?

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Vivian Evans's avatar

It is Ray Sanders and he has been publishing his findings regularly on the blog "Tallbloke's Talkshop" since last year. Here's his first piece:

https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2024/08/23/chertsey-abbey-mead-dcnn-5239-the-rise-of-solar/

If you live in the UK, this series is a must-read and shows how all the Met Office/BBC weather shenanigans are simply Net Zero Climate Hysterical propaganda.

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Dawn's avatar

Thank you Vivian I will definitely read his work

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BARRY ISAACS's avatar

I remember some of the really hot days when I lived in Israel. The worst ones coincided with a "khamsin" or "Sharav" which involved tiny, microscopic grains of sand from the Arabian peninsula crossing the Middle East and making breathing more difficult even when indoors. To combat this phenomenon, once indoors I soaked my straw mattress in the room of the boarding house I lived in so that when I lay down the moisture from the mattress would make breathing easier. I once came back to my room and there was a young woman whom I did not know lying on my bed. I figured she must have been pretty hot. I wasn't that hot so I left her alone.

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David Rinker's avatar

She was hot? You missed your chance bro.

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Warmek's avatar

🤣

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Henrybowman's avatar

"She wasn't that hot so I left her alone." (FIFY)

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Fukitol's avatar

ROFL

In the american southwest it gets above 100f in May and stays that way daily until early October with almost no relief, routinely reaching above 110f in the hottest months for weeks on end.

When I was a kid, we had track meets and other sporting events all day long out in that heat and the only precautions we took were iced water. Nobody died.

As a young adult I worked 12 hour shifts, outdoors, in the same weather. I hated it, but again nobody died. We did have an older German immigrant woman get heat stroke once. I'd say maybe you all are weak to heat, but I'm around a quarter German (most of the rest from yet colder climates) and while I hate the heat, I survived.

Point being, pretty sure you'll be fine.

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